He didn't die, get Dreadnoughted or turn to chaos, he just waited centuries and became a chaplain so he could keep on being Titus's #1 hater for all of time. He didn't even change himself by doing some self reflection, he just doubled down and kept hating. I can't help but admire that level of pettiness 💯
I'm amazed how supposed 40k fans imagine some kind of hate from Leandros. Sure, from a readers' perspective he's a dumb nerd. But in-universe, the accusation of heresy made complete sense. "A suspicious mind is a healthy mind." The problem was him going directly to the Inquisition.
He didn't get promoted. Him becoming a chaplain is punishment for what he did to titus from calgar. Because he went to the inquisition first (breaking the codex) and not the ultramarine chaplain, he was forced into a quasi same situation as titus where everyone will look at him with suspicion and distrust and he will have that codex he loves drilled so deeply into his head that if he makes one single mistake he will be up the creek as they say...
He was terrible for leadership or anything that has to do with thinking outside the box, but also a perfect chaplain material for all the same reasons. Buy the way, chaplains in training have to take a vow of silence, as well as duel with some of the most fearsome foes using a executioner sword and a literal time stopping device, so he effectively was shut up for several decades, which is ironic.
@@MrFiremagnet And still didn't learn a thing or two. The unmask scene should have been him asking for forgiveness if he really did those trials. He is much better assigned in the Deathwatch so his hate boner can be directed on things that truly matter.
@@littlejohn8435 true. But I also think Titus and Leandros conflict is a good fuel for a future story, and that his role as a Chaplain creates an interesting dynamic.
Leandros: Hates how Titus deviates from the codex* Titus: Inspire 2 more of his brothers to think outside of the box* Leandros: Reeeeeeee Calgar: approves* Leandros: REEEEEEEEEEEE
Also Leandros: You have served with the Deathwatch for almost a century and not once have you faltered. But you will never know true absolution until you have faced the judgement of your brothers. I am... conflicted. They might actually be gearing up to do something interesting with him.
6 years from now, the ending of Space Marine 3: Guilliman: “Titus, you have demonstrated courage beyond everything anyone could have ever asked from you. You have earned the respect of your Primarch, of your Chapter Master, of every battle brother of the Ultramarines. Even Malum Caedo bows in your presence, and thus I decided to give you the approval to go and found your own Successor Chapter (note: this was Relic’s original idea for Titus’ future)”. Leandros: “I KNOW YOU WILL FALL TO CHAOS, I KNOW WHO YOU REALLY ARE!” The Emperor Himself, manifesting in a flash of golden light: “Shut up, Leandros, you’re a nerd”.
As much of a nerd as he was, the fact he recommended Titus to come back to the Ultramarines, and recommended him for further missions of importance is nice. I'm kinda glad he's become more a wise teacher, who while still a stick in the mud, at least calmed down a bit.
I'm pretty sure he was forced into the role by Calgar as punishment, lol. He was so uppity about the Codex, yet he broke it. So what better punishment than having it drilled into him and being watched closely by every other Chaplain in the Chapter so that he won't pull the same shit
Guilliman re-wrote the Codex when he returned. It could just him being such a sticker for the Codex that he took the revisions, which made the Codex far more flexible, to heart.
@@pll3827he didn’t rewrite the codex, he wrote an entirely new codex, however the original codex is still the standard because the High Lords of Terra would lose their collective 💩 if he tried to revoke the codex, given how it’s what limits Space Marine chapters to 1000 marines
Considering what he did, Calgar probably intentionally assigned him to Titus. Calgar and other Chaplains are probably keeping a close eye on his actions due to knowing what he did. In a certain point of view, Leandros is in the same position as Titus here. Everything he does is being watched because if he ever pull something like he did again, there will be no possible way he can avoid a severe punishment.
You’re a fake 40k fan if you think Leandros was in the wrong. In universe: A SUSPICIOUS MIND IS A HEALTHY MIND. Out of universe: internal marine favoritism and secrecy is how the horus heresy occurred!
@@orrthehunter On the other hand something IS odd with Titus. Tzeentch’s plots when it involves non-psykers tend to be…long winded and wild than usual. Two visits from champions of the deceiver is not a good sign. It’s a really bad omen that something is cooking and if the inquisition wasn’t able to find it in 100 years, that is bad.
I find it even funnier that this is post Bobby G waking up and telling his bois to stop worshipping the fucking codex too. Like my guy, your dad doesn't even glaze the codex as much as you do and he wrote the damn thing.
@@velwein ofc we are referring to Ultramarines specifically but Chaplains are meant to enforce the moral and the teachings of their chapter. So it makes sense they would quote their teachings constantly, part of 40K (as a player and lover of the lore) is fear of reprisal, it’s draconian and dogmatic. Even if the Marines don’t view the Emperor as a god like mere mortals do, the idea of stepping out of line would and could be a sentence less than death or much worse.
He is not only fair, Titus himself recollects on several ocassions how his actions gave Leandros more than enough reason to act how he did in Space Marine 1. They both wisened up.
@@Nickname-ef9tv Leandros gave him specific orders to not mention what had lead to him getting into the Deathwatch and the Captain reinforced this. Hell, it was as a Chaplain which is a major authority on order within the Chapter and Company. Titus was between a rock and a hard place in terms of mindlessly following orders and seeking absolution, in this case formally after he got saved by the Ultramarines. Of course this all went out the window once Titus realized what the Artefact and Aurora was about and the chaos outbreak went into full motion.
...His penances for Graia must have been LEGENDARY. He must have survived them by draving even more from his zeal and accidentally found his true calling on the side, safeguarding the ideological purity of the Chapter.
Nah, it is more the standard expression you can expect from any chaplain. Space Marines by default are grim characters, and chaplains in turn are giving most of them bad vibes for their grim disposition.
You guys are delusional as duck. Leandros served alongside Sicarius and Calgar, he's an Ultramarine Chaplain. He will NOT betray his chapter, no matter how you want to be petty about his characterisation from 13 years ago. Seems like he grew more then you...
At the start Leandros (unknown to me at the time) seemed to be doing a pretty good job as a chaplain. He offers council and guides his marines down the path of an ultramarine, but towards the end there it really does start to feel like his bias against Titus is bleeding into things.
It's every Chaplains job to doubt and question every space marine under his guidance. Titus himself admitted that he was partially responsible for how Leandros reacted in the first game.
Honestly I think story DLC with Titus and Leandros fighting side-by-side and hashing it out would be pretty cool. Hey, why not play as Leandros, introducing the Chaplain class with special abilities?
I loved the Chaplain's approach to Titus' squad at their third meeting: - He berates Chairon because he wants to hear Titus' response and wants to hear his side of the story. - He then addresses Gadriel side of the story, after Titus response, he berates Gadriel for trying to harm his commanding officer. - At the end he addresses the whole squad about the consequences of their actions, not just Titus', and threatens to watch them, just for them to keep in line.
@@mapleflag6518 Also Calgar will be keeping an eye on him, he snitched on a Marine who is good enough that even Calgar was impressed. Out of favor of the Chapter Master, watched by the other Chaplains, carrying a grudge against someone that the Emperor protects - Snitches get stitches and wind up in ditches.
He reported to the inquisition over his chapter master. It is not a promotion. He is being WATCHED for bs. Another problem with being a chaplain is that Titus can and likely eventually outrank him completely.
To be fair his scrutiny matured. In SM1 it was "INQUSITIOR ARREST THIS MAN REEE" in SM2 he vows to always be vigiliant about Titus' potential for corruption due to his odd warp affinity, but otherwise seems to cooperate with him. Sounds a lot more reasonable to me.
Leandros may have become a Chaplain as an ironic punishment. With the fact that the Ultramarines are very strict adherents Leandros would need to learn all the rites and all the services and all the sermons effectively forcing Leandros to not do anything on a basis that isn't strictly "Hey, we need you out here."
@@ComradeStrogg Titus is a gigachad and probably doesn't give two shits about Leandros. It's kinda funny how the community forgets how things are normally unfair in the Empire.
Chaplains are required to go a century without speakimg. Yes Calgar absolutely placed him as punishment. Titus also did acknowledge what he did wrong (he didnt do anything wrong leandros is just a paranoid shit) Titus didnt have a heart to heart with him as he stated to gladriel. I actually find it somewhat interesting community think he hates titus that strongly he seems ironically more lax now then in space marines 1. Even though Titus would never turn it ironically is needed in the imperium to have suspusciom (look at Dawn of War with Azariah Kyras and blood ravens)
considering the inquisition got involved, Calgar probably could not punish him properly or else it will look like the Ultramarines support a assumed Heretic being Titus. So instead, Calgar probably sent him to be a Chaplain as punishment where he will have the entire codex grinded into his head as a remind of what he did by breaking a rule of the codex. Not to mention the other Chaplains most likely also knew about his actions and probably remind him constantly about how badly he screwed up. This also puts him in a situation where he is constantly being watched because he can never pull something like what he did again or else he will be punished severely. Funny enough, the puts him in the same situation as Titus where everyone who knows what he did is watching him closely and judging all his actions as a Chaplain.
I think the reason is pretty simple and rather stupid. Because nobody in the Ultramarines, even the Chaplain, can't stop Titus. For the high ranks of the Ultramarines, Titus's tenacity, resolve and leadership is beyond the Codex Astartes. He can do whatever he wants because he keeps winning. This is something that the zealot of Leandros can't comprehend. So why Leandros is a Chaplain? Because he is perfect for the job. To instill the values and beliefs of the Chapter you need a person with that level of fanatism. Remember that the Codex Astartes is the magnus opus of Primarch Guilliman, so it is pretty much the cornerstone of the Ultramarine's values. And Leandros LOVES the Codex Astartes.
Maybe Calgar sentenced him to the position ironically as to reflect on his misinterpretation of the codex. He would then have his entire career devoted to it.
“You have proven yourself to your brothers, and the chapter master, AND the primarch. Even the big E himself got off his psychic ass for once just to congratulate you. But know this Titus accused of heresy the stain of suspicion never leaves I will be watching you.”
I like to imagine the look on Robute's face when he learned about how Leandros not only threw Titus under the bus, but also broke the Codex in doing so. He would experience a degree of fury so incandescent it would make Khorne blush.
Why would either of them care about some random asshole that was a mid level marine during the 10,000 years they were dead/incapacitated and never met either of them
To be honest, the role of Chaplain is perfect for him. He definitely has a lot of faith and spirit, so he is perfect for the role of teaching and instilling in Aspirants and Neophytes the history and values of the Chapter. Yes, he disobeyed the Codex when he snitched Titus, but, as a Chaplain, his training for the new role ensures he will follow the Codex, and not disobey it in any way, shape or form. And, tbf, he'd suck as a Captain or in any leading role. His narrow vision, always following the Codex, means he is not able to improvise and adapt to unforseen situations. Also, I imagine Calgar was not pleased when he learned a Brother was taken by the Inquisition. He can yapp all he wants about "watching Titus", when he is the one being watched by Calgar and the other Chaplains.
Let's not forget though that he turned Titus into the inquisition for the crime of being *resistant to chaos.* And he is still so petty as to remaining relentlessly suspicious of Titus afterwards. In their first conversation he has the audacity to say to Titus that he was "accused of heresy" when he is literally the accuser, and then declares that Titus will "never know redemption" as though he needs redemption in the first place.
Its a promotion on the surface, but its actually punishment underneath. Becoming a Chaplain takes Leandros on a different career track and out of the running for Captain of any SM squad Its similar to what happened to Sobel in Band of Brothers. Being reassigned to head a jump training school for non-combatants looked like an acknowledgement of his skills as a training officer, but it also took him away from being Easy Company's CO and the majority of combat action in WW2. If Sobel was seeking combat for the sake of glory to his career, this was punishment
@@vadandrumist1670 Being relentlessly suspicious of *everybody* is literally his job as a Chaplain now. They put him a job posting where him being an overzealous, paranoid narc is not a hindrance but a requirement. Just competent HR management.
@magni5648 The problem with that is not continued general vigilance, it is the fact that he has it out for Titus specifically. It would be one thing to say that Titus is innocent but might one day truly be corrupt, and another to say that he still thinks Titus is guilty and is just waiting for an excuse. This is very apparent during the astropath incident where even as Titus companions declare it was a misunderstanding and made a mistake, he *still* says they should have and he would have taken Titus out then and there.
Oh how it must have BURNED Leandros, being made a Chaplain and knowing that, for all the respect the position comes with, he will never know glory as an Ultramarine. The stain of suspicion will fade over time, but a bond of brotherhood broken shall always remain so.
This is better and somehow worse than what I had in mind for the Snitch. I was expecting him to turn traitor which would have been too easy but making him Chaplin means that he has to deal with a constant reminder of his betrayal and also hounding Titus for any hint of heresy. I'm excited for what happens next
I feel like people are forgetting that Leandro’s did ultimately stick his neck out for Titus. Yes he’s suspicious and technically broke the codex by going to the inquisition instead of the Libarius or head chaplain. He still does show a great deal of growth here and his suspicious nature works for a chaplain. But he does recommend Titus personally later and I think he took Titus’ speech a lot more to heart than people are giving him credit for
I wonder how the Great Crusade spacemarines will react to how everything is ritualized for the 41st Millennium. From the armoring right down to reloading a magazine.
We see a good deal of the reaction of vets of the great crusade to It in the books featuring the dark angels where they I interact with the fallen. The fallen Mock it as nonsense.
The more sane Chaos Space Marines think the current Marines are insane and betray everything about the Great Crusade. To them they're literally the biggest joke ever.
Iron Warriors and Word Bearers have a field day with that. Give their novel a read specifically on their reference toward the Imperium’s current pitiful state. Specifically Word Bearers. Also the one novel about that AI ship from Dark age of technology. The thing mocked the machine god itself, saying (something along the line of) that back then the machines were the one doing the worshiping (toward mankind, their masters), not the other way around.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! He has a lot of nerve showing his face to Titus. He’s the reason why Titus was part of the Deathwatch and why he was tormented by Thrax! He has no right to pass judgement!
I would not be surprised if Leandros believed himself to be in the right for what he did. While he might be giving Titus more of a fair shake this time around and even put him up for a special mission, I think deep down he still believes that Titus is a future chaos space marine waiting to happen... And he's just waiting for that moment to be proven right.
@@raziel6304 this is indeed true. However, from his dialogue, it doesn’t sound like he has or at least not completely. Which I think is even more idiotic, especially when you take it to consideration the fact that inquisitor thrax by this point in time is probably well known to have fallen to chaos and been assassinated. Not only that, but apparently he didn’t like space Marines. He apparently hated them. So you would think that knowing this alone, which you know, maybe he doesn’t know or maybe he does I have no idea. But regardless, he is probably the last person, that really has any right to judge Titus
Lore note. A Space Marine Chaplain is forbidden to remove their helmet in the presence of someone not of their order. So what Leandros does he is possibly against the Codex Astartes. Fun to think about.
Well now, let's try to see things from his perspective. His captain used an ancient heretic artifact to defeat another heretic, and was left unaffected by the Warp. It is extremely rare and usually means that the user of the artifact is a heretic himself. The only mistake that Leandros made was that he told the Inquisition about it, instead of letting the chaplains to deal with Titus.
Yeah, let's pick the guy who looks the unhealthiest, with dark-circles under the eye, and pallid skin, to root-out chaos corruption. That's like protecting your chocolate with a security guard who weighs 400LB's.
@@mycommentpwnz I did. It's ironic that you want to pull the familiarity card, when you clearly don't know anything about 40k lmfao, space marine is your only exposure. Dark circles under eyes, pallid skin, unhealthy, you're just describing the average description of a character in 40k. Half the Inquisition itself meets that description. Hell, that's just what people look like sometimes. Let alone a Chaplain, if you even know what that is here. You're sitting here acting surprised because "man in group of bad guys looks like a bad guy in a universe where everyone is a bad guy". Brother, it's 40k. What did you expect?
Titus being resistant to Warp shit, reeeeeee heresy. Sisters of Battle being mostly resistant or even immune to Warp and having LITERAL FUCKING DEMON SAINTS OF THE EMPEROR among them, nah i sleep.
@@greedxvii3698 Titus isn't a blank. Blanks not only cause Psykers physical and mental pain when in the vicinity, they also cause normal people to feel on edge and uncomfortable around them, even headaches or migraines. Nobody complains of that near Titus, or even looks visibly distressed, and the Ultramarines Librarius would have sussed out he was one during his recruitment if he was. He just seems to have a natural resistance to chaos and the warp, he's not immune to it completely.
@@greedxvii3698 if youre a blank, you literally have no soul. you are viewed as an uncomfortable existance to be around for everyone on a metamaterial level and are outright painful to be around for psykers... AS A BASELINE blank... the further up the blank scale you go the worse it gets for literally everyone, especially psykers...
Because Titus is a fellow Space Marine, Leandros had confidence to take it to authority (even though I personally find that him reporting to the Inquisition instead of his own Chapter Master or Chaplain was a writer's error, especially since said Inquisitor arrived with Black Templars lol). A Sister of Battle is under the Ecclesiarchy, an entirely different branch of administratum that has an extremely powerful hold on the Imperium. The Astartes answer to no one but the Emperor, but what realistically happens is that they all play politics with one another - it would not do well for the Astartes to trigger a fight with the Ecclesiarchy, not when they're outnumbered a hundred to one and the Sororitas' in particular claim great fealty and influence from a lot of worlds by virtue of being visible and ingrained in human society. It also wouldn't be the first time the Imperium of Man clashed with the Astartes, and heavy losses on both sides. Except it's far faster and easier to replace a Sororitas, a Guardsman and/or an Inquisitor than it is to replace a Space Marine.
I love the easter egg of 2:00. It’s both a mixture of the BloodAngels “ Fortress Monastery” fan animation and GW’s arming a space marine trailer combined!
Shoutout to them doing a callback to the Ultramarine film from back in the day. I know that oath is a classic peice of lore but an ultramarine chaplain leading the chant. Nice
Possibly. Since he’s coming along on whatever mission Titus is going to. As much as i hate the guy, it would be nice if Titus and Leandros had a chance to mend their rift. The guy doesn’t seem to be as bad as before, judging by the fact that he personally watched over Titus while he was recovering.
@@Reaper1722 Leandros was only playing nice because since he’s a Chaplain, he not only has to put even more effort into proving corruption/heresy especially if it’s against Titus, but he also now is most likely being watched by other chaplains and Calgar himself.
especially since he decided to suck off the Inquisition and repot his suspicions to them instead of a Chaplain or Librarian like his bible of a codex calls for.
I would have preferred it to have been a bit of a reversal where Titus encounters Leandros who during the time between games had turned to Chaos and was now a Chaos Space Marine, would have been so ironic and satisfying.
To be honest Leandros is correct. Tzeentchinian plots play the LONG game. You can never be sure. Especially if the inquisition can’t find out why you are “special”, there is something terribly wrong.
@@lvo9197 id dose not they are chosen for their Loyalty not hatred. Hatred is the bi product. This is bad writing here this is now how chaplins are chosen and cultivated for the role.
I feel much of how Leandros treats Titus during Space Marine 2 is an apology of sorts. Yeah he’s always saying “I’ll be watching you”, he’s the chaplain… literally his job. It’s clear he worked with Marneus Calgar to have Titus transferred back to the Ultramarines. He tells Titus it’s “his home”. He clearly doesn’t feel Titus is a traitor but he can’t come out and say “sorry buddy I was wrong haha”, it would undermine his authority as Chaplain. Maybe it’s just my interpretation and I’m wrong, but the reveal that the Chaplain was infact Leandros seals it for me. I didn’t view it as an “ohhh woooooh I’m Leandros I’m watching you” type thing. He didn’t need to unmask himself like that, I took it as a sign of respect and as close to seeking forgiveness for being wrong as a Marine of his position could be.
For my own sake of realism I understand why Leandros ratted Titus. If even a stalwart Primarch can be corrupted by chaos with barely anyone noticing then a basic space marine could stand no chance and be almost completely undetectable.
Thing is though he was supposed to go to a chaplain or librarian. Instead he went straight to the Inquisition, which besides violating the Codex he cherishes so much, is also just a massive breach of protocol among the Astartes. Barring serious situations, the space marines much prefer to handle such things in-house because of the potential harm that can come from just bringing outside organizations in immediately.
@@zaxbitterzen2178 Realistically the answer is more likely an error on the part of whoever wrote the story for this game, just like the notion of Black Templars hanging with an inquisitor. But from an in-universe stand-point who knows what Leandros was thinking... He's a hypocrite.
As far as Leandros' continued suspicion towards Titus goes... honestly my take on it was "fair enough". It is weird that Titus emerged unscathed and uncorrupted on Graia but back then as a rookie it wasn't Leandros' place to make a call like that and call the Inquisition. Things are different now, Leandros is a Chaplain. It is his job to be watchful for signs of corruption within the chapter and while Titus has proved himself loyal which Leandros acknowledges... they still haven't established why Titus is able to resist Chaos in the way he does. And so Leandros assures Titus at the first sign of chaos corruption he will end him which is again... fair enough.
I watched someone play through the game. They didn't bother with dialogue. Just mission after mission. No waiting for talks to finish. So, they missed out on a lot of in between mission briefings and talks. I was very surprised by the last cutscene. Before the chaplain took off his helmet, I had the sudden concern of "that" person being them and can't believe that pos was still alive. Now watching all this small dialogues, I could see it a bit clearer (but also not really because I already knew the answer).
Its a Chaplins job to watch every marine in his company. Leandros seems to have matured and does not target Titus. But he himself has to face his former Captain and hopefully will make amends.
I think it's safe to say that Leandros being accountable for what he did to his former captain. In his guilt from realizing that turning Titus over to the Inquisition was a big mistake in hindsight, Leandros ultimately decided to become a chaplain. Titus isn't the only one seeking absolution for being wronged by Lord Inquisitor Thrax. Leandros, too - to seek absolution from his past mistake by become a chapter's chaplain. I know fans who demand justice for Titus are still holding grudge on Leandros for making Titus' life a living hell for 2 centuries & still won't forgive him & wanting to feel the urge of retribution to put a bolt round to his skull, but I personally let that slide. Cause in the end of this campaign story (for now), all is forgiven for both of them
I'm sorry but f Leandros. Yes Titus redeemed himself but all he ever did was serve loyally. Sorry but to accuse an innocent battle brother cause of an anomaly or a resistance to the warp .
Titus proved himself once more but Leandros is still like " do one mistake and I end you"😂😂😂. He didn't change and he's not sorry for what he did. I wish him to get captured by slaneesh's demons.
@@corentinbudzich5934 him wind up being a chaplain & watching Titus "closely" as his way to guide Titus said otherwise. Leandros sincerely wished he could have done things differently after he realized his decision made has spiraled down to the worst outcome, and so he serves his "penance" as a chapter chaplain to make sure no one make the same mistake as he did. He held himself accountable for what he did, I'll give him that. To be fair, even Titus held himself accountable for his failure to validate Leandros' concerns. Had Titus validated his concerns & clear the air sooner, Leandros wouldn't have to make rash decision to summon an inquisitor just because he didn't feel "heard"
I honestly love what this game did with both Titus and leandros. Titus learned that he should be more open with his brothers and it was his lack of communication with leandros and going “we’ll talk about it later” or “we can worry about it later” wasn’t the best way to handle it. And leandros, likely after receiving punishment for turning Titus in to the inquisition, seems to have embraced his role in keeping the chapter clean. He’s one of the ones who gave Titus his second chance and although Titus has proved himself, it wouldn’t surprise me if Leandros holds the philosophy that everyone needs someone to keep them honest. And he’s the one who will keep Titus honest, no matter how many honors Titus holds
I'd say leandros was in the right for being suspicious of Titus after he handled raw warp energy like it was nothing but in the wrong for going over his chapter & the ultramarines' chain of command and ratting Titus out directly to the inquisition & the black templars. His concerns should have been handled in house by his superiors and it should have been their call whether or not to turn over Titus to the inquisition.
I can't help but think Leandros was referring to himself and his consequences, when he says that there would be "questions" if ever the truth about Titus' black shield status were discovered. Like, in all the past century he has refused to accept that what he did was wrong and has been covering his own backside the whole time.
No being a blackshield is considered to be a very disrespectful thing that only those who have seriously screwed up do his warning was to help Titus so his squad doesn't have the same issues they did so that when or if they had to find out they would already be more trusting of him and would be more willing to listen to him
Leandros is such a fascinating character to me, I get the vibe he's stand by you against the most horrifying thing the galaxy can throw and not falter and even take a bullet for you, but condemn you as a heretic in the same breath and blam you for stepping a toe slightly over the line.
I hate to see Leandros. Bro that ending scene seeing him me and my friends on discord: NO WAY HE SURVIVED AND NO FUCKING WAY HE'S A CHAPLAIN!! We had a 3 man co-op group going and bro we hated the chaplain since the very first second he kinda felt off... Bro to see it was Leandros makes so much more sense
I imagine leandros had to get chewed out for several hours if not days by calgar and then going down the line of his superiors after which he was then demoted to the scouts and had to work his way up hill to get back into the marines proper and chose to work towards being a chaplain
Three things I want to see in the future: 1. Titus getting his captain rank back (or otherwise promoted) 2. Calgar slapping Leandros down so hard when he inevitably starts talking shit 3. Titus and Leandros working out their differences (but only after the aforementioned slap)
@@corwincori861a snitch is I would consider is a person who rats out their fellow brothers not because of personal value but for their own gain and hide he had nothing to gain from ratting out to the Inquisition it was simply misplaced judgment and maybe not going directly to your chaplain but Inquisition has its own authority very high no matter how you feel about it they are part of the imperial structure
I know the natural reaction of many is one of hate towards Leandros but I'd like to think this means a new start for the both of them. 200 years is a long time and I'm sure Leandros has seen and done much just like Titus has, its also a long time to reflect on the past. If we get a Space Marine 3 I'd really like the relationship between the two of them to be explored further. Maybe even with them forming a true bond of brotherhood whilst fighting together against insurmountable odds. I think it would be pretty epic, who knows Leandros might actually turn out likeable 😄
I feel like the whole time Leandros kept moving the goal post. First it was know the judgement of your brothers then when that didnt work the brothers also became suspect and it was calgar and the primarch. I guess next time we see Leandros he will probably be accusing both primarchs of heresy for deciding Titus wasn't actually a warp tainted monster. Leandros just wants Titus dead for personal reasons at this point.
After rewatching his introduction, it's clear that Leandros is malding over the fact that Titus come back alive to the Ultramarine and approved directly by Calgar himself.
I want Space Marine 3 (if they make it- I hope they will), to be focussed on the mission Titus goes on with Lord Calgar and Leandros. I know it might be controversial but I'd love a Leandros redemption arc.
I mean honestly, think about how much character development we see Titus go through in the span of one game. Leandros has had, what, 200 years to grow as a person? He seems to take his position as chaplain seriously, and was even glad to see Titus back on his feet post-surgery. He got a little pissy when chaos got involved, but it's understandable.
jo honestly he was my favourite (except Titus ofc.) character in the second game because of how supportive he was throughout the story , and they really got my chin dropped when he took of his helmet off at the end. Damn Leandros, what a guy XD
Think of Leandros what you will, Yes he was wrong, no doubt. But he was made a Chaplain exactly because he is watchfull over his brothers. If Titus was corrupted then he could have corrupted a whole company of Ultramarines. A moment of laxity spawns a lifetime of heresy afterall. As a Chaplain, Leandros can use his utter steadfast conviction in the Codex and the Chapter to do what he does best, armour the souls of his brothers, and watch for any sign of heresy. He was wrong with Titus, but being proven wrong does not mean your suspicion was incorrect. For better or worse, the Emperors black as a Chaplain is exactly what Leandros should bear. He is perfect for the role. Yes, Leandros says he will be watching Titus closely. A Chaplains duty is to watch *All* brothers in his company closely. It is their very duty, Leandros would give his life as readily for the chapter as any other Ultramarine. Or order any brothers arrest if he suspects or sees the signs of heresy, Wether it be Titus, Gadriel, or any other.
Gotta say though, despite being a hater, he is fair. He could've tried sabotaging Titus' journey and redemption, but he gave him the chance. It was under the orders of Lord Calgar, but Leandros held no overt petulant spite, and just gave constant reminder for Titus to be careful.
@@charleswebster3279 i heard somebody say titus could've just thought it was calgar, considering after when titus wakes up calgar is behind other ultramarines and repeats the "rise" part. the mannerisms and tone of "Rise, Son of Guilliman" also doesn't sound like calgar's typical dialogue
Space marine 3 plot in a nutshell: Titus creates a successor chapter and is well regarded by the Calgar and Guillimen but Leandros still thinks he’s a heretic so the emperor musters his split up consciousness to come together and obliterate Leandros’ soul for being a bitch
And here I was thinking the chaplain sounded badass despite being an asshole to Titus the whole game. Soon as I saw that helmet come off I started SEETHING 😂
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Beginning: “Damn this Chaplin is a badass”
Ending: “MOTHERF*****!!!”
Everyone's general reaction to this scene
He does not deserve to have that level of drip
Yep. Same here brother.
Middle: “I’m sorry, Brother Chaplain, I won’t let you down”
End: “YOU SON OF A B*%#$!!!!”
Leandros has wizened up since his newbie days on Graia. Still got a stick up his ass though
He didn't die, get Dreadnoughted or turn to chaos, he just waited centuries and became a chaplain so he could keep on being Titus's #1 hater for all of time. He didn't even change himself by doing some self reflection, he just doubled down and kept hating. I can't help but admire that level of pettiness 💯
This level is petty is normally reserved for the IVth legion, not the XIII 😂
I'm amazed how supposed 40k fans imagine some kind of hate from Leandros. Sure, from a readers' perspective he's a dumb nerd. But in-universe, the accusation of heresy made complete sense. "A suspicious mind is a healthy mind." The problem was him going directly to the Inquisition.
@@uignireddngfiurdsgfiurdse fans hate a character who did crappy things to the MC and that surprises/amazes you?
@@uignireddngfiurdsgfiurdseI agree.
Not pittiness.
You got to admire such Determination.
Remember the lesson here kids:
The company snitch will always get promoted.
He didn't get promoted. Him becoming a chaplain is punishment for what he did to titus from calgar. Because he went to the inquisition first (breaking the codex) and not the ultramarine chaplain, he was forced into a quasi same situation as titus where everyone will look at him with suspicion and distrust and he will have that codex he loves drilled so deeply into his head that if he makes one single mistake he will be up the creek as they say...
Bootlickers always gets fingered by command. First to rise, first to fall as they say.
He was terrible for leadership or anything that has to do with thinking outside the box, but also a perfect chaplain material for all the same reasons.
Buy the way, chaplains in training have to take a vow of silence, as well as duel with some of the most fearsome foes using a executioner sword and a literal time stopping device, so he effectively was shut up for several decades, which is ironic.
@@MrFiremagnet And still didn't learn a thing or two. The unmask scene should have been him asking for forgiveness if he really did those trials. He is much better assigned in the Deathwatch so his hate boner can be directed on things that truly matter.
@@littlejohn8435 true. But I also think Titus and Leandros conflict is a good fuel for a future story, and that his role as a Chaplain creates an interesting dynamic.
Leandros: Hates how Titus deviates from the codex*
Titus: Inspire 2 more of his brothers to think outside of the box*
Leandros: Reeeeeeee
Calgar: approves*
Leandros: REEEEEEEEEEEE
Guilliman: shows up and tells them the codex is outdated and to stop worshipping his writing like Word bearers
Exactly why him becoming a chaplain was Calgar’s punishment for him…
Guilliman: Nice work Titus.
Leandros: REEEEEEEEEEEEE
Primarch who actually wrote the Codex encourages the whole chapter to think outside the box. Even bigger reeeeeee
Also Leandros: You have served with the Deathwatch for almost a century and not once have you faltered. But you will never know true absolution until you have faced the judgement of your brothers.
I am... conflicted. They might actually be gearing up to do something interesting with him.
6 years from now, the ending of Space Marine 3:
Guilliman: “Titus, you have demonstrated courage beyond everything anyone could have ever asked from you. You have earned the respect of your Primarch, of your Chapter Master, of every battle brother of the Ultramarines. Even Malum Caedo bows in your presence, and thus I decided to give you the approval to go and found your own Successor Chapter (note: this was Relic’s original idea for Titus’ future)”.
Leandros: “I KNOW YOU WILL FALL TO CHAOS, I KNOW WHO YOU REALLY ARE!”
The Emperor Himself, manifesting in a flash of golden light: “Shut up, Leandros, you’re a nerd”.
swear to god leandros is titus #1 opp
Leandros: The Codex Astartes does not support this action.
Calgar, Guilliman, The God Emperor: Shut the fuck up Leandros.
Honestly.. If Guilliman and the Emperor himself give Titus five star reviews, I can imagine Leandros turning to Chaos out of spite.
@@MahsaKaerraLeandros the type to join chaos in order to tempt Titus just so he can tell everyone “I told you so”
The Emperor will stand up from his throne just to tell Leandros to sit the fuck down.
As much of a nerd as he was, the fact he recommended Titus to come back to the Ultramarines, and recommended him for further missions of importance is nice. I'm kinda glad he's become more a wise teacher, who while still a stick in the mud, at least calmed down a bit.
I'm pretty sure he was forced into the role by Calgar as punishment, lol. He was so uppity about the Codex, yet he broke it. So what better punishment than having it drilled into him and being watched closely by every other Chaplain in the Chapter so that he won't pull the same shit
Guilliman re-wrote the Codex when he returned. It could just him being such a sticker for the Codex that he took the revisions, which made the Codex far more flexible, to heart.
@@pll3827he didn’t rewrite the codex, he wrote an entirely new codex, however the original codex is still the standard because the High Lords of Terra would lose their collective 💩 if he tried to revoke the codex, given how it’s what limits Space Marine chapters to 1000 marines
@@Brother_O4TSleandros broke the codex?
You report suspicion to your chapter masters - not the inquisition
It's so class that Titus' last line is ''Leandros''. The devs know their community.
he looks so pissed to see him again.
@@ThatGuyUpThere Makes sense. He was tortured for a century because of Leandros breaking the chain of command and contacting the Inquisition directly
Took all of Titus' discipline to not smack or shoot Leandros on the spot.
Funny thing how titus first words in here was kill and last were leandros
@@the_infinexos Not for a century. He served in the Deathwatch for a century.
"What is your meme?"
"MY FACE IS MY SHIELD"
MY HAIR IS MY SWORD!
Blue is my armor
MAKE THEM SUPPER!
EVEN IN DEBT, I STILL SERVE
MY FURRY IS MY SWORD
He’s got a LOT of nerve to show his face after what he did to Captain Titus.
Considering what he did, Calgar probably intentionally assigned him to Titus. Calgar and other Chaplains are probably keeping a close eye on his actions due to knowing what he did.
In a certain point of view, Leandros is in the same position as Titus here. Everything he does is being watched because if he ever pull something like he did again, there will be no possible way he can avoid a severe punishment.
@@orrthehunter I'm looking forward to it
You’re a fake 40k fan if you think Leandros was in the wrong. In universe: A SUSPICIOUS MIND IS A HEALTHY MIND. Out of universe: internal marine favoritism and secrecy is how the horus heresy occurred!
@@orrthehunter On the other hand something IS odd with Titus. Tzeentch’s plots when it involves non-psykers tend to be…long winded and wild than usual.
Two visits from champions of the deceiver is not a good sign. It’s a really bad omen that something is cooking and if the inquisition wasn’t able to find it in 100 years, that is bad.
@@zeppelincraft1443easy. Emperor protects.
I like how they hint throughout your encounters, especially when he keeps bringing up following the Codex.
Thats rich coming from him!
I mean that’s what chaplains technically do
I find it even funnier that this is post Bobby G waking up and telling his bois to stop worshipping the fucking codex too. Like my guy, your dad doesn't even glaze the codex as much as you do and he wrote the damn thing.
@@jhinckle90 Ultramarines sure, others more focus towards worshipping the God Emperor. Though Guilliman is trying to put the kaibosh on that.
@@velwein ofc we are referring to Ultramarines specifically but Chaplains are meant to enforce the moral and the teachings of their chapter. So it makes sense they would quote their teachings constantly, part of 40K (as a player and lover of the lore) is fear of reprisal, it’s draconian and dogmatic. Even if the Marines don’t view the Emperor as a god like mere mortals do, the idea of stepping out of line would and could be a sentence less than death or much worse.
Dreadnoughts : look proudly as their long lost little brother came back and score a winning for imperium.
He's a hater, but he's far more 'fair' here than he was before.
I imagine he got the mother of all rebukings from Calgar, equal to that of Dorn towards Sigismund. He knows if he tries any stunt again, he is done.
@@MadHappyPrime unlike siggy he looks like he is more salty than before.
He is not only fair, Titus himself recollects on several ocassions how his actions gave Leandros more than enough reason to act how he did in Space Marine 1. They both wisened up.
@@Nickname-ef9tv Yes, that is my thought too.
@@Nickname-ef9tv Leandros gave him specific orders to not mention what had lead to him getting into the Deathwatch and the Captain reinforced this. Hell, it was as a Chaplain which is a major authority on order within the Chapter and Company. Titus was between a rock and a hard place in terms of mindlessly following orders and seeking absolution, in this case formally after he got saved by the Ultramarines. Of course this all went out the window once Titus realized what the Artefact and Aurora was about and the chaos outbreak went into full motion.
...His penances for Graia must have been LEGENDARY. He must have survived them by draving even more from his zeal and accidentally found his true calling on the side, safeguarding the ideological purity of the Chapter.
I can imagine him mounting the codex on a stick and starting to bash some skulls in with his new weapon.
@@Navinor And that's if he didn't just club the scum to death with just the book.
Just look at Leandros’s face when he took off his helmet… THE FACE FULL OF JEALOUSY
The epitome of "Bitch face".
Nah, it is more the standard expression you can expect from any chaplain. Space Marines by default are grim characters, and chaplains in turn are giving most of them bad vibes for their grim disposition.
You guys are delusional as duck. Leandros served alongside Sicarius and Calgar, he's an Ultramarine Chaplain. He will NOT betray his chapter, no matter how you want to be petty about his characterisation from 13 years ago. Seems like he grew more then you...
@@TheArklyte you love snitching and following the rules don’t you
@@ssilent8202 isn't it so great that not a single person snitched™ on Erebus, right?
At the start Leandros (unknown to me at the time) seemed to be doing a pretty good job as a chaplain. He offers council and guides his marines down the path of an ultramarine, but towards the end there it really does start to feel like his bias against Titus is bleeding into things.
If you played the first game you'd know what Leandros did to TItus. Apologies if that sounded rude, hard to convey tone over text.
To be fair, he recommended Titus for a Tyrannid mission. He only starts getting tetchy when Chaos turns up.
It's every Chaplains job to doubt and question every space marine under his guidance. Titus himself admitted that he was partially responsible for how Leandros reacted in the first game.
@@ComradeStrogg Except Leandros was most likely a different case.
@@mapleflag6518 as in?
“sPaCe BoOk SaYs ThIs BaD!”
- A Huge Nerd
WELL I CAN'T READ!!!
Space book says "Do you job and be mindful, otherwise i don't give a fuck how you do it."
"no" - book
- chap
BOOK!! - Master Interrogator Chaplain Asmodai
Shut the f up leandros *jumps off* FOR THE EMPEROR - a blood raven
Honestly I think story DLC with Titus and Leandros fighting side-by-side and hashing it out would be pretty cool.
Hey, why not play as Leandros, introducing the Chaplain class with special abilities?
Yeah so we can let him die over and over and over and over
The only reason I would want to play as Leandros would be to KILL HIM OVER AND OVER AGAIN!
I can imagine the barbed remarks already
@@jacoblansman8147 Oh man the dialogue would be delightful.
good idea, i can then refuse tro revive my teammates when theyre leandros or get my self killed so i can finally kill leandros
I loved the Chaplain's approach to Titus' squad at their third meeting:
- He berates Chairon because he wants to hear Titus' response and wants to hear his side of the story.
- He then addresses Gadriel side of the story, after Titus response, he berates Gadriel for trying to harm his commanding officer.
- At the end he addresses the whole squad about the consequences of their actions, not just Titus', and threatens to watch them, just for them to keep in line.
Like any proper Chaplain should.
Leandros is a generational hater
He would be if Space Marines could sire offspring.
Good chaplain material then. 😂
Kinda can if he gets to start a sucessor chapter @@FFVogter.-em6zz
That's really something on account of how SMs can live so long
YT gives me the option to translate your comment into English??
When the classroom snitch gets promoted to hall monitor.
Not exactly. Leandros is most likely being watched by other chaplains who don’t trust him.
@@mapleflag6518 Also Calgar will be keeping an eye on him, he snitched on a Marine who is good enough that even Calgar was impressed. Out of favor of the Chapter Master, watched by the other Chaplains, carrying a grudge against someone that the Emperor protects - Snitches get stitches and wind up in ditches.
@@13g0man Cassius most likely put Leandros through absolute hell during training.
He reported to the inquisition over his chapter master. It is not a promotion. He is being WATCHED for bs. Another problem with being a chaplain is that Titus can and likely eventually outrank him completely.
He only accepted becoming a chaplain just so he could continue to scrutinize Titus.
Like seriously is Leandro’s unaware of Varo Tigurius
To be fair his scrutiny matured. In SM1 it was "INQUSITIOR ARREST THIS MAN REEE" in SM2 he vows to always be vigiliant about Titus' potential for corruption due to his odd warp affinity, but otherwise seems to cooperate with him. Sounds a lot more reasonable to me.
Leandros may have become a Chaplain as an ironic punishment. With the fact that the Ultramarines are very strict adherents Leandros would need to learn all the rites and all the services and all the sermons effectively forcing Leandros to not do anything on a basis that isn't strictly "Hey, we need you out here."
Titus himself admitted that he was partially responsible for how Leandros reacted in the first game.
@@ComradeStrogg Titus is a gigachad and probably doesn't give two shits about Leandros. It's kinda funny how the community forgets how things are normally unfair in the Empire.
Chaplains are required to go a century without speakimg. Yes Calgar absolutely placed him as punishment. Titus also did acknowledge what he did wrong (he didnt do anything wrong leandros is just a paranoid shit) Titus didnt have a heart to heart with him as he stated to gladriel. I actually find it somewhat interesting community think he hates titus that strongly he seems ironically more lax now then in space marines 1. Even though Titus would never turn it ironically is needed in the imperium to have suspusciom (look at Dawn of War with Azariah Kyras and blood ravens)
How did Leandro’s become a Chaplin he broke protocol by informing the inquisition instead of the ultramarines chaplains.
There were a lot of inconsistencies on the first space marine game tbh
He is devoted to purity and loyalty. It makes sense he would pursue this path.
considering the inquisition got involved, Calgar probably could not punish him properly or else it will look like the Ultramarines support a assumed Heretic being Titus. So instead, Calgar probably sent him to be a Chaplain as punishment where he will have the entire codex grinded into his head as a remind of what he did by breaking a rule of the codex. Not to mention the other Chaplains most likely also knew about his actions and probably remind him constantly about how badly he screwed up. This also puts him in a situation where he is constantly being watched because he can never pull something like what he did again or else he will be punished severely.
Funny enough, the puts him in the same situation as Titus where everyone who knows what he did is watching him closely and judging all his actions as a Chaplain.
I think the reason is pretty simple and rather stupid.
Because nobody in the Ultramarines, even the Chaplain, can't stop Titus. For the high ranks of the Ultramarines, Titus's tenacity, resolve and leadership is beyond the Codex Astartes. He can do whatever he wants because he keeps winning. This is something that the zealot of Leandros can't comprehend.
So why Leandros is a Chaplain? Because he is perfect for the job. To instill the values and beliefs of the Chapter you need a person with that level of fanatism. Remember that the Codex Astartes is the magnus opus of Primarch Guilliman, so it is pretty much the cornerstone of the Ultramarine's values. And Leandros LOVES the Codex Astartes.
Maybe Calgar sentenced him to the position ironically as to reflect on his misinterpretation of the codex. He would then have his entire career devoted to it.
One cutscene was enough to make my opinion of the chaplain plummet to the depths
Same....I finally beat the main game today...when I saw his face.. and heard his name...😡😤
“You have proven yourself to your brothers, and the chapter master, AND the primarch. Even the big E himself got off his psychic ass for once just to congratulate you. But know this Titus accused of heresy the stain of suspicion never leaves I will be watching you.”
I like to imagine the look on Robute's face when he learned about how Leandros not only threw Titus under the bus, but also broke the Codex in doing so. He would experience a degree of fury so incandescent it would make Khorne blush.
even the emperor would cringe
Why would either of them care about some random asshole that was a mid level marine during the 10,000 years they were dead/incapacitated and never met either of them
Leandros is gonna get an ultraspanking from Daddy Girlyman that's for sure.
Wait till you find out big G and Leandros are bros
To be honest, the role of Chaplain is perfect for him.
He definitely has a lot of faith and spirit, so he is perfect for the role of teaching and instilling in Aspirants and Neophytes the history and values of the Chapter.
Yes, he disobeyed the Codex when he snitched Titus, but, as a Chaplain, his training for the new role ensures he will follow the Codex, and not disobey it in any way, shape or form.
And, tbf, he'd suck as a Captain or in any leading role. His narrow vision, always following the Codex, means he is not able to improvise and adapt to unforseen situations.
Also, I imagine Calgar was not pleased when he learned a Brother was taken by the Inquisition. He can yapp all he wants about "watching Titus", when he is the one being watched by Calgar and the other Chaplains.
Let's not forget though that he turned Titus into the inquisition for the crime of being *resistant to chaos.* And he is still so petty as to remaining relentlessly suspicious of Titus afterwards. In their first conversation he has the audacity to say to Titus that he was "accused of heresy" when he is literally the accuser, and then declares that Titus will "never know redemption" as though he needs redemption in the first place.
Its a promotion on the surface, but its actually punishment underneath.
Becoming a Chaplain takes Leandros on a different career track and out of the running for Captain of any SM squad
Its similar to what happened to Sobel in Band of Brothers. Being reassigned to head a jump training school for non-combatants looked like an acknowledgement of his skills as a training officer, but it also took him away from being Easy Company's CO and the majority of combat action in WW2. If Sobel was seeking combat for the sake of glory to his career, this was punishment
@@vadandrumist1670 ngl Titus should have said something along the lines of "were you in my place, would you be corrupted by the taint of chaos?"
@@vadandrumist1670 Being relentlessly suspicious of *everybody* is literally his job as a Chaplain now. They put him a job posting where him being an overzealous, paranoid narc is not a hindrance but a requirement. Just competent HR management.
@magni5648 The problem with that is not continued general vigilance, it is the fact that he has it out for Titus specifically. It would be one thing to say that Titus is innocent but might one day truly be corrupt, and another to say that he still thinks Titus is guilty and is just waiting for an excuse. This is very apparent during the astropath incident where even as Titus companions declare it was a misunderstanding and made a mistake, he *still* says they should have and he would have taken Titus out then and there.
4:35 still with Codex issues
Oh how it must have BURNED Leandros, being made a Chaplain and knowing that, for all the respect the position comes with, he will never know glory as an Ultramarine.
The stain of suspicion will fade over time, but a bond of brotherhood broken shall always remain so.
Plus not to mention that he’s most likely being watched by other chaplains and Calgar himself.
@@mapleflag6518 100 years and bro is STILL HATING
This is better and somehow worse than what I had in mind for the Snitch. I was expecting him to turn traitor which would have been too easy but making him Chaplin means that he has to deal with a constant reminder of his betrayal and also hounding Titus for any hint of heresy. I'm excited for what happens next
and calgar just honored titus, yeah its quite the ironic punishment.
I feel like people are forgetting that Leandro’s did ultimately stick his neck out for Titus. Yes he’s suspicious and technically broke the codex by going to the inquisition instead of the Libarius or head chaplain. He still does show a great deal of growth here and his suspicious nature works for a chaplain. But he does recommend Titus personally later and I think he took Titus’ speech a lot more to heart than people are giving him credit for
I wonder how the Great Crusade spacemarines will react to how everything is ritualized for the 41st Millennium. From the armoring right down to reloading a magazine.
We see a good deal of the reaction of vets of the great crusade to It in the books featuring the dark angels where they I interact with the fallen. The fallen Mock it as nonsense.
The more sane Chaos Space Marines think the current Marines are insane and betray everything about the Great Crusade. To them they're literally the biggest joke ever.
@@Aaron-io8vw Probably cuz they know that the Big E made worshipping & superstitious practices illegal
Iron Warriors and Word Bearers have a field day with that. Give their novel a read specifically on their reference toward the Imperium’s current pitiful state. Specifically Word Bearers.
Also the one novel about that AI ship from Dark age of technology. The thing mocked the machine god itself, saying (something along the line of) that back then the machines were the one doing the worshiping (toward mankind, their masters), not the other way around.
The chaos space marines aren’t to fond of the imperium
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!
He has a lot of nerve showing his face to Titus. He’s the reason why Titus was part of the Deathwatch and why he was tormented by Thrax!
He has no right to pass judgement!
I would not be surprised if Leandros believed himself to be in the right for what he did. While he might be giving Titus more of a fair shake this time around and even put him up for a special mission, I think deep down he still believes that Titus is a future chaos space marine waiting to happen... And he's just waiting for that moment to be proven right.
@@refurbishedtechpriest9076 He has no right to wear the armor!
he had 100 years to mature and ponder over that decision
@@raziel6304 this is indeed true. However, from his dialogue, it doesn’t sound like he has or at least not completely. Which I think is even more idiotic, especially when you take it to consideration the fact that inquisitor thrax by this point in time is probably well known to have fallen to chaos and been assassinated. Not only that, but apparently he didn’t like space Marines. He apparently hated them. So you would think that knowing this alone, which you know, maybe he doesn’t know or maybe he does I have no idea. But regardless, he is probably the last person, that really has any right to judge Titus
@@ultrajdif you listen he is clearly on Titus' side compared to his captain
You mean all the turbo nerd scenes?
he's a professional turbo nerd now
🤓
Lore note.
A Space Marine Chaplain is forbidden to remove their helmet in the presence of someone not of their order. So what Leandros does he is possibly against the Codex Astartes.
Fun to think about.
So, he technically broke the rules of the Codex Astartes even though he kept talking about it in the first game. Ironic.
@@primal9007He even broke the Codex in the first game when he reported Titus directly to the Inquisition instead of to a Chaplain or Librarian.
@Duskets So he broke it twice and still bitches about it. Fucken Leandros.
Leandros made a mistake joining the Ultramarines. He should have been a Black Templar, or a Dark angel. That's where he belongs!
A word bearer, be a lorgar's booklicker and lockey of Erebus
Yeah should have been Black Templar so that after his snitching to inquisition, Grimaldus himself would execute the fucker.
@@aisnice7421 that's quite a low level of disrespect but after what this snake did i cant blame ya
Well now, let's try to see things from his perspective. His captain used an ancient heretic artifact to defeat another heretic, and was left unaffected by the Warp. It is extremely rare and usually means that the user of the artifact is a heretic himself. The only mistake that Leandros made was that he told the Inquisition about it, instead of letting the chaplains to deal with Titus.
@@aisnice7421 why a word bearer?
Every scenes with Gadriel and Chairon gives "why is it that every time something happens, it's always you three ?" Vibes
Yeah, let's pick the guy who looks the unhealthiest, with dark-circles under the eye, and pallid skin, to root-out chaos corruption.
That's like protecting your chocolate with a security guard who weighs 400LB's.
Bro just looks like every other 40k character tho
@@dkcsi9256 you didn't play space marine 1 did you?
@@dkcsi9256 in space marine 1, he didn't look like nurgle was bout to give him the peen
@@mycommentpwnz I did.
It's ironic that you want to pull the familiarity card, when you clearly don't know anything about 40k lmfao, space marine is your only exposure.
Dark circles under eyes, pallid skin, unhealthy, you're just describing the average description of a character in 40k. Half the Inquisition itself meets that description. Hell, that's just what people look like sometimes. Let alone a Chaplain, if you even know what that is here.
You're sitting here acting surprised because "man in group of bad guys looks like a bad guy in a universe where everyone is a bad guy". Brother, it's 40k. What did you expect?
@@dkcsi9256 wrong lol... I have listened to like 10,000 lore videos
Leandros, not only did he become a Chaplain, but a Primaris Chaplain? Dude's sucking on the codex pretty hard
Titus being resistant to Warp shit, reeeeeee heresy.
Sisters of Battle being mostly resistant or even immune to Warp and having LITERAL FUCKING DEMON SAINTS OF THE EMPEROR among them, nah i sleep.
Can literally fix his suspicion of Titus of someone just told leandros what a blank is and that Titus a blank himself
@@greedxvii3698 Titus isn't a blank. Blanks not only cause Psykers physical and mental pain when in the vicinity, they also cause normal people to feel on edge and uncomfortable around them, even headaches or migraines. Nobody complains of that near Titus, or even looks visibly distressed, and the Ultramarines Librarius would have sussed out he was one during his recruitment if he was. He just seems to have a natural resistance to chaos and the warp, he's not immune to it completely.
@@greedxvii3698 if youre a blank, you literally have no soul. you are viewed as an uncomfortable existance to be around for everyone on a metamaterial level and are outright painful to be around for psykers... AS A BASELINE blank... the further up the blank scale you go the worse it gets for literally everyone, especially psykers...
Because Titus is a fellow Space Marine, Leandros had confidence to take it to authority (even though I personally find that him reporting to the Inquisition instead of his own Chapter Master or Chaplain was a writer's error, especially since said Inquisitor arrived with Black Templars lol).
A Sister of Battle is under the Ecclesiarchy, an entirely different branch of administratum that has an extremely powerful hold on the Imperium. The Astartes answer to no one but the Emperor, but what realistically happens is that they all play politics with one another - it would not do well for the Astartes to trigger a fight with the Ecclesiarchy, not when they're outnumbered a hundred to one and the Sororitas' in particular claim great fealty and influence from a lot of worlds by virtue of being visible and ingrained in human society.
It also wouldn't be the first time the Imperium of Man clashed with the Astartes, and heavy losses on both sides. Except it's far faster and easier to replace a Sororitas, a Guardsman and/or an Inquisitor than it is to replace a Space Marine.
Bruh got some trust issue
Technically Chaplain also being to have Trust issue
Literally it’s the first line to exact action on the suspected heresy
It's literally his job now.
chaplains by default are always on edge
I love the easter egg of 2:00. It’s both a mixture of the BloodAngels “ Fortress Monastery” fan animation and GW’s arming a space marine trailer combined!
Shoutout to them doing a callback to the Ultramarine film from back in the day. I know that oath is a classic peice of lore but an ultramarine chaplain leading the chant. Nice
I can't blame Leandros, chaos corruption is very subtle.
You also do not have be aware of your own corruption, at all. Several have been completely corrupted by Chaos and completely unaware of it.
Look at this dude, he knows the lore and is not expecting the 40K universe to work as ours! Boo him!
But but but leandros was mean to the main character and the meme say I should hate him.
@@nevermore7285 well what if leandrons is tainted?
In leandros defence, Titus resistance to warp is vary rare and nobody knows why. Also Titus is very dodgy with questions so is not easy.
Leandros redemption story arc incoming. we just need sidonus as a venerable dreadnought and we are all set for an epic reuninion
Possibly. Since he’s coming along on whatever mission Titus is going to.
As much as i hate the guy, it would be nice if Titus and Leandros had a chance to mend their rift. The guy doesn’t seem to be as bad as before, judging by the fact that he personally watched over Titus while he was recovering.
Uh.. I think Sidonus is too dead for that.
@@Reaper1722 Leandros was only playing nice because since he’s a Chaplain, he not only has to put even more effort into proving corruption/heresy especially if it’s against Titus, but he also now is most likely being watched by other chaplains and Calgar himself.
@@mapleflag6518wow your fantasies are coloring your reality
@@mapleflag6518 Stop overthinking it. Titus himself is not overthinking it.
Im surprised with leandros being a chaplain
especially since he decided to suck off the Inquisition and repot his suspicions to them instead of a Chaplain or Librarian like his bible of a codex calls for.
I would have preferred it to have been a bit of a reversal where Titus encounters Leandros who during the time between games had turned to Chaos and was now a Chaos Space Marine, would have been so ironic and satisfying.
To be honest Leandros is correct. Tzeentchinian plots play the LONG game. You can never be sure.
Especially if the inquisition can’t find out why you are “special”, there is something terribly wrong.
Considering that what deifnes Chaplains is their hatred, it checks out.
@@lvo9197 id dose not they are chosen for their Loyalty not hatred. Hatred is the bi product.
This is bad writing here this is now how chaplins are chosen and cultivated for the role.
I feel much of how Leandros treats Titus during Space Marine 2 is an apology of sorts.
Yeah he’s always saying “I’ll be watching you”, he’s the chaplain… literally his job. It’s clear he worked with Marneus Calgar to have Titus transferred back to the Ultramarines. He tells Titus it’s “his home”. He clearly doesn’t feel Titus is a traitor but he can’t come out and say “sorry buddy I was wrong haha”, it would undermine his authority as Chaplain.
Maybe it’s just my interpretation and I’m wrong, but the reveal that the Chaplain was infact Leandros seals it for me. I didn’t view it as an “ohhh woooooh I’m Leandros I’m watching you” type thing. He didn’t need to unmask himself like that, I took it as a sign of respect and as close to seeking forgiveness for being wrong as a Marine of his position could be.
You know what? I don't want his filthy armor after all.
For my own sake of realism I understand why Leandros ratted Titus. If even a stalwart Primarch can be corrupted by chaos with barely anyone noticing then a basic space marine could stand no chance and be almost completely undetectable.
Thing is though he was supposed to go to a chaplain or librarian. Instead he went straight to the Inquisition, which besides violating the Codex he cherishes so much, is also just a massive breach of protocol among the Astartes. Barring serious situations, the space marines much prefer to handle such things in-house because of the potential harm that can come from just bringing outside organizations in immediately.
@@refurbishedtechpriest9076 true perhaps he was just a bit new back then
@@zaxbitterzen2178 Realistically the answer is more likely an error on the part of whoever wrote the story for this game, just like the notion of Black Templars hanging with an inquisitor. But from an in-universe stand-point who knows what Leandros was thinking... He's a hypocrite.
@@refurbishedtechpriest9076 I mean self-righteousness is very Ultra
What primarch are you dealing with, please?
As far as Leandros' continued suspicion towards Titus goes... honestly my take on it was "fair enough". It is weird that Titus emerged unscathed and uncorrupted on Graia but back then as a rookie it wasn't Leandros' place to make a call like that and call the Inquisition. Things are different now, Leandros is a Chaplain. It is his job to be watchful for signs of corruption within the chapter and while Titus has proved himself loyal which Leandros acknowledges... they still haven't established why Titus is able to resist Chaos in the way he does. And so Leandros assures Titus at the first sign of chaos corruption he will end him which is again... fair enough.
I watched someone play through the game. They didn't bother with dialogue. Just mission after mission. No waiting for talks to finish.
So, they missed out on a lot of in between mission briefings and talks. I was very surprised by the last cutscene.
Before the chaplain took off his helmet, I had the sudden concern of "that" person being them and can't believe that pos was still alive.
Now watching all this small dialogues, I could see it a bit clearer (but also not really because I already knew the answer).
Imagine if Erebus was reported in time instead of everyone keeping it to themselves like you all wanted Leandros to do, eh?
@@TheArklyte it's not like anyone would believe such an accusation at the time. Remember how Dorn was mad that bro was accused of being a traitor?
@@cygnusereve4779 and that's why we're where we are. GG WP, "no snitch crew".
Its a Chaplins job to watch every marine in his company. Leandros seems to have matured and does not target Titus. But he himself has to face his former Captain and hopefully will make amends.
I hope Calgar's assignment is that he doesn't trust Leandros and has assigned Titus to eliminate him at the first hint of Chaos taint.
That would be weird since Leandros was THE ONE WHO RECOMMENDED Titus for the middion in the first place
I can never see Chaplains the same after watching the Baldermort clips 😂
4:35 This line was the moment I realized he was Leandros.
Yeah this is where I started to suspect. When he said he need not remind us of last time, I knew. There was some weight behind it
I think it's safe to say that Leandros being accountable for what he did to his former captain. In his guilt from realizing that turning Titus over to the Inquisition was a big mistake in hindsight, Leandros ultimately decided to become a chaplain.
Titus isn't the only one seeking absolution for being wronged by Lord Inquisitor Thrax. Leandros, too - to seek absolution from his past mistake by become a chapter's chaplain.
I know fans who demand justice for Titus are still holding grudge on Leandros for making Titus' life a living hell for 2 centuries & still won't forgive him & wanting to feel the urge of retribution to put a bolt round to his skull, but I personally let that slide. Cause in the end of this campaign story (for now), all is forgiven for both of them
I'm sorry but f Leandros. Yes Titus redeemed himself but all he ever did was serve loyally. Sorry but to accuse an innocent battle brother cause of an anomaly or a resistance to the warp .
I doubt it’s guilt. Leandros was completely justified in what he did. A SUSPICIOUS MIND IS A HEALTHY MIND.
Titus proved himself once more but Leandros is still like " do one mistake and I end you"😂😂😂. He didn't change and he's not sorry for what he did. I wish him to get captured by slaneesh's demons.
@@corentinbudzich5934 him wind up being a chaplain & watching Titus "closely" as his way to guide Titus said otherwise.
Leandros sincerely wished he could have done things differently after he realized his decision made has spiraled down to the worst outcome, and so he serves his "penance" as a chapter chaplain to make sure no one make the same mistake as he did. He held himself accountable for what he did, I'll give him that.
To be fair, even Titus held himself accountable for his failure to validate Leandros' concerns. Had Titus validated his concerns & clear the air sooner, Leandros wouldn't have to make rash decision to summon an inquisitor just because he didn't feel "heard"
@@Kingsmash35It's wh40k. Ultramarines are not Grey Knights.
I can barely remember people I've met 25 years ago and this guy immediately recognizes him after 200 years.
I honestly love what this game did with both Titus and leandros. Titus learned that he should be more open with his brothers and it was his lack of communication with leandros and going “we’ll talk about it later” or “we can worry about it later” wasn’t the best way to handle it. And leandros, likely after receiving punishment for turning Titus in to the inquisition, seems to have embraced his role in keeping the chapter clean. He’s one of the ones who gave Titus his second chance and although Titus has proved himself, it wouldn’t surprise me if Leandros holds the philosophy that everyone needs someone to keep them honest. And he’s the one who will keep Titus honest, no matter how many honors Titus holds
Huh so that's why I kept hearing "Shut the f*ck up, Chaplain!" In the back of my head lol
“Shut the f-ck up, Leandros. For the Emperor!”
I'd say leandros was in the right for being suspicious of Titus after he handled raw warp energy like it was nothing but in the wrong for going over his chapter & the ultramarines' chain of command and ratting Titus out directly to the inquisition & the black templars.
His concerns should have been handled in house by his superiors and it should have been their call whether or not to turn over Titus to the inquisition.
Next mission: find Malum Caido and Cato Sicarius
titus: im gonna tell caedo everything
Cato is already found but it's unclear if he will be considered fit for active duty as captain or not
I can't help but think Leandros was referring to himself and his consequences, when he says that there would be "questions" if ever the truth about Titus' black shield status were discovered.
Like, in all the past century he has refused to accept that what he did was wrong and has been covering his own backside the whole time.
No being a blackshield is considered to be a very disrespectful thing that only those who have seriously screwed up do his warning was to help Titus so his squad doesn't have the same issues they did so that when or if they had to find out they would already be more trusting of him and would be more willing to listen to him
Something i noticed: the chaplain always wore a hood over the helmet, but when he revealed his face, it was gone
I thought leandros got into corporal duty to clean the chapter's communal bathrooms for a century after the event of space marine 1 😂
Leandros is such a fascinating character to me, I get the vibe he's stand by you against the most horrifying thing the galaxy can throw and not falter and even take a bullet for you, but condemn you as a heretic in the same breath and blam you for stepping a toe slightly over the line.
100 years of hatred, Leandros sure is something...
You think that is hatred?
@wintertrooper7918 im starting to think you are leandros himself by how hard you be riding him
@@josephuav9056 im not the one who has some ridiculous fanfic of the dude having some kind of vendetta against titus when there is nothing there
I called it so hard once the chaplain started being antagonistic.
I idk why but I find their interactions wholesome.
I hate to see Leandros. Bro that ending scene seeing him me and my friends on discord: NO WAY HE SURVIVED AND NO FUCKING WAY HE'S A CHAPLAIN!! We had a 3 man co-op group going and bro we hated the chaplain since the very first second he kinda felt off... Bro to see it was Leandros makes so much more sense
Calgar: "Great was my wrath when I learned of your detention".
I hope most if not all of that wrath was taken out on snitch boy.
I imagine leandros had to get chewed out for several hours if not days by calgar and then going down the line of his superiors after which he was then demoted to the scouts and had to work his way up hill to get back into the marines proper and chose to work towards being a chaplain
Three things I want to see in the future:
1. Titus getting his captain rank back (or otherwise promoted)
2. Calgar slapping Leandros down so hard when he inevitably starts talking shit
3. Titus and Leandros working out their differences (but only after the aforementioned slap)
Robust grillpans about to pull a Lion when he finds out what leandros has done.
If you go back and see the chaplain scenes after the reveal, Leandros is going be much less hateable.
Leandros is now more batshit than Asmodai
Asmodai isn't a snitch though.
INTERROGATE?!
@@corwincori861a snitch is I would consider is a person who rats out their fellow brothers not because of personal value but for their own gain and hide he had nothing to gain from ratting out to the Inquisition it was simply misplaced judgment and maybe not going directly to your chaplain but Inquisition has its own authority very high no matter how you feel about it they are part of the imperial structure
I know the natural reaction of many is one of hate towards Leandros but I'd like to think this means a new start for the both of them. 200 years is a long time and I'm sure Leandros has seen and done much just like Titus has, its also a long time to reflect on the past. If we get a Space Marine 3 I'd really like the relationship between the two of them to be explored further. Maybe even with them forming a true bond of brotherhood whilst fighting together against insurmountable odds. I think it would be pretty epic, who knows Leandros might actually turn out likeable 😄
Was not expecting shirtless oiled up Titus first thing when I clicked on the video
I feel like the whole time Leandros kept moving the goal post. First it was know the judgement of your brothers then when that didnt work the brothers also became suspect and it was calgar and the primarch. I guess next time we see Leandros he will probably be accusing both primarchs of heresy for deciding Titus wasn't actually a warp tainted monster.
Leandros just wants Titus dead for personal reasons at this point.
Chaplain: What is your favorite color?
Black and yellow....
@@kiettuan8443 and into the Heretical Gorge with you
@@ryanrehfuss you got my joke right? Chairon is.....and the other is.....
@@kiettuan8443 Ah, a Imperial Fist. Now, go build a fortress.
@@HaloFTW55 you did not get my joke
After rewatching his introduction, it's clear that Leandros is malding over the fact that Titus come back alive to the Ultramarine and approved directly by Calgar himself.
The Petty Lord, Scourge of Reason, Wielder of Haterade, Pat Robertson's Favorite Nephew... BEHOLD!!!! LEANDROS!!!!
Space Marine 3. Leandros falters and Titus puts him down. Calling it now.
Makes sense. He's a snitch.
Bro is snitch9ine.
It would be cool if leandros would sacrifice himself in dlc citing codex to save the day.
I wonder what Leandros would think about Big E talking to Titus there right before the end.
Freaking Leandros, I was hoping he’d be dead by the time Titus got back in the saddle
Seems like he grew more then you in past 13 years then😅
I fell to Khorne when I he revealed himself
I want Space Marine 3 (if they make it- I hope they will), to be focussed on the mission Titus goes on with Lord Calgar and Leandros. I know it might be controversial but I'd love a Leandros redemption arc.
I mean honestly, think about how much character development we see Titus go through in the span of one game. Leandros has had, what, 200 years to grow as a person? He seems to take his position as chaplain seriously, and was even glad to see Titus back on his feet post-surgery. He got a little pissy when chaos got involved, but it's understandable.
5:50 surprised no one brings up this part, he seems pissed that Gadriel tried to kill him, even if he does have a strong bias against Titus.
jo honestly he was my favourite (except Titus ofc.) character in the second game because of how supportive he was throughout the story , and they really got my chin dropped when he took of his helmet off at the end. Damn Leandros, what a guy XD
There is gotta be a dlc with Leandros going on Marneus Calgar's wild ride as repentance.
I am starting to believe it was Cato Sicarius who had his way in promoting Leandros to chaplain.
Think of Leandros what you will,
Yes he was wrong, no doubt. But he was made a Chaplain exactly because he is watchfull over his brothers. If Titus was corrupted then he could have corrupted a whole company of Ultramarines. A moment of laxity spawns a lifetime of heresy afterall.
As a Chaplain, Leandros can use his utter steadfast conviction in the Codex and the Chapter to do what he does best, armour the souls of his brothers, and watch for any sign of heresy. He was wrong with Titus, but being proven wrong does not mean your suspicion was incorrect.
For better or worse, the Emperors black as a Chaplain is exactly what Leandros should bear. He is perfect for the role. Yes, Leandros says he will be watching Titus closely. A Chaplains duty is to watch *All* brothers in his company closely. It is their very duty, Leandros would give his life as readily for the chapter as any other Ultramarine. Or order any brothers arrest if he suspects or sees the signs of heresy, Wether it be Titus, Gadriel, or any other.
Gotta say though, despite being a hater, he is fair.
He could've tried sabotaging Titus' journey and redemption, but he gave him the chance. It was under the orders of Lord Calgar, but Leandros held no overt petulant spite, and just gave constant reminder for Titus to be careful.
Was that the emperor speaking at 7:43?
I had named subtitles on and it said Calgar 👎🏻
@@charleswebster3279 i heard somebody say titus could've just thought it was calgar, considering after when titus wakes up calgar is behind other ultramarines and repeats the "rise" part. the mannerisms and tone of "Rise, Son of Guilliman" also doesn't sound like calgar's typical dialogue
It was later confirmed that it's definitely not Calgar, most people accept it's the Big E
It was the emperor , he resurrected Titus
Bruh when he took off the helmet I went " BITCHHHHHHHH "
4:34 Never laugh so hard like this since SPACE MARINE 1
Leandros is fast becoming the second most hated Chaplain in the entire 40k setting. Right behind FUCKING EREBUS.
If there's ever a DLC where you can shoot Leandros I'm buying, no questions asked
Space marine 3 plot in a nutshell: Titus creates a successor chapter and is well regarded by the Calgar and Guillimen but Leandros still thinks he’s a heretic so the emperor musters his split up consciousness to come together and obliterate Leandros’ soul for being a bitch
12:45 - In game, You can see clearly that Titus is shocked for a second of the Chaplain's face reveal.
And here I was thinking the chaplain sounded badass despite being an asshole to Titus the whole game. Soon as I saw that helmet come off I started SEETHING 😂