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Our DIY Chinese Diesel Heater (Boat Installation)
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- Опубликовано: 16 дек 2020
- Join us as we attempt our very own DIY installation of a 'cheap' Chinese diesel heater into our 1980's sailing boat, which has never had any form of heating aboard. See how we get on, having never done anything like this before. THIS IS NOT A HOW TO VIDEO, it's just a how we did it video, as always. 😁
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1) This is the heater we bought: amzn.to/2Zss5IF
2) We also bought lots of upgrades for the Chinese heater system, to make it more appropriate for a sailing boat installation, from a local company called MV Heating, which you can find here: mvheating.co.uk (they were super helpful).
3) Exhaust brackets came from a company called: www.britishpip... (they were a tad slow getting them to us, but when they did turn up, they seem like really good quality).
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Backstory to the urgency of this diesel heater installation.
So Captain Carly got very ill recently, she came down with pneumonia and we can't help think that living on a cold, damp sailing boat, in the middle of a British winter, likely had some part to play in that.
So this is our mission, to warm the boat up and make this space a comfortable and cosy little home once again. This is NOT a how tho video, this is simply a how we did it video and we will show you what modifications we made to make it (what we believe is) a suitable and safe diesel heater installation for our sailing boat.
Hi Guys ..... As a seasoned uk live aboards of the last 10 years we found that it is essential to have good dehumidifyers ( one in each cabin if possible) ..., and as you have found ..a good dry air heating systen and a well fitting cockpit enclosure to hang damp oilies and dog towles etc .( It also increases the boats living space ). Good insulation ,ventilation in all cupboards and most importantly insulation under mattresses . Hope this helps .
Perhaps the best channel. Honest, real and a touch of humour 👌
Glad you enjoyed it Phil 😁
Fair dues to you for helping sort that yacht. And I hope Carly is feeling better.
She is mate, thanks, and, well, isn't that just what you do when you see a boat in trouble, help out and hope that when our time comes, someone will do the same for us, too. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Hope you're well and looking forward to as decent a festive period as 2020 will allow 🍻😁
@@CadohaAdventures true, well I would hope so. But it is still good to see
Being a "NOT a How To" video, I learned a lot, and found it entertaining at the same time. I loved the interaction with your dog, and hope Captain Carly has a quick and smooth recovery. Thank you for sharing.
Our hopes and prayers for Cali’s return to her radiant self in the very near future. You’ve succeeded in modifying that into a much safer and I’m sure more efficient system, Kudos !
Spooky!!!! After 5 years with MV Airo 5Kw we just fitted the exact same heater from eBay. The service kit for the Airo was more than the cost of the new heater from eBay. As we had already the "extras" you mentioned it was a no brainer. Especially when you do the maths £1400 over 5 years. Then £110 for the ebay heater. If it lasts a year we have saved money. When we took the Airo out and looked at the actual engineering there was very little difference. It was just the fitting kit and bits and bobs, as you say that were not "marine grade". The silicone coated insulation is great, we have it around our silencer too. We fitted some foam pipe insulation around the diesel pump to deaden the sound of the solenoid. That really helps. Hope Carly is recovering fast. Have a lovely Christmas, and a Happy New Year. Sail Safe Guys, Ant, Cid & the pooch crew.
Thank you, she is doing great now, which is so nice to see. Also, if a man of your mechanical prowess approves of the heater, then I feel even more confident in our decision 😂🍻🍻🍻
Hope you're keeping well 🙏🏻
@@CadohaAdventures Just turned our on as its a chilly 14 Degrees C Here. 😁 Have a good one guys.
I'm not an expert either, but I have installed a couple of heaters in a couple of ways.
Some tipps from my experience:
- Do not take the combustion air for the burner from the living quarters of your boat. This is because of the carbon monoxide hazzard and reads in the Webasto manual. (Also I don't think you get a correct reading from your alarm sensor now, because the heater has now the hot air intake in the same space and is effectively ventilating it.)
- Install the fuelpump on a separate sound and vibration insulated platform.
- Personally I trade economy for comfort and put the air intake outside.
- Second reason is that I can use the heater for forced ventilation during hot days.
- If not out side, run the air intake ducting to a room that has no hot air outlet, for better air circulation in your boat.
- For additional comfort, run ducting to your toilet and foul weather gear closet.
- If you intend to use your heater when sailing, install longitudinally.
Other than that, good video and good points in your installation too!
i was about to tear you a new one putting a non marinised heater into a boat, then i saw you change out the exhaust, add exhaust standoffs and use rockwool and now i have nothing to piss and moan about.. good job Odin, love your work
Good job ...!
Only issue is..
Fuel should be outside / on vehicle instlations you cannot install a fuel tank inside the cab / cabin ..its an insurance fail.
And fire hazard.... also thick wall fuel pipe can sit too close to exaust port .. so we grind the ferrule end and fit steel pipe/ lines to tank ...
Glad you're nice and warm ..there a game changer at silly money...! 👍
Most yachties are sat or stood over quite close to a lot of... diesel. Which is why we don't use petrol in the main. Personally would have put the tank in the engine bay or further aft as topping up is going to be smelly! Have a look at Sailing Life; Mads has got 2/300L of diesel in the base of his galley island in the middle of the salon! Many have big tanks under the cabin sole. Good point re: last bit of hose to the unit though.
Hi been fitting/ repairing wabasto and herberspatcher for 18 years ..I was a psv electrician. (For National Bus) now retired ..
fitted engine diesel tanks in cabin are usually 99.9% vented outside..!
Our etap yacht fuel tank is built in in locker 2. ( now not used ..as i am half way through fitting a torqueedo pod.. lol
The Chinese heater tank valve is although "one way" can also be problematic.
Also the tank neck needs facing up with wet and dry and a block, as the plastic molding can rough.
Its all about "good practice"
Outside of main cabin...is the best way.
With a heeled over boat, for hours or even days..with a full heater diesel tank ...and your asking for trouble..!
Not to mention the filling hazard..!
If you extend the neck to a deck fitting it will help.
Also running excessive exhaust length.. will apart from back pressure..!
It can cause heavy condensation..
if one isn't fitted, you need a exhaust "trapped" condensation loop. ..
Best regards Rich
I am praying for her! I hope she's been tested for Covid just in case. Prayers for safe travels ❣️
Carly actually had a Covid test which came back as negative and that's when she went to the doctor to see what was wrong.
Another great vlog with great humour. Hank didn't have a lot to say which is a shame as he's so funny 🐶🤣🤦🏼♂️. He's a fine handsome chap btw. I hope Carly's chest gets better soon. Wishing you all a merry Christmas 🎄🎄and let's hope that 2021 will take you far and wide. I'm about 2yrs away from joining you but maybe our anchor chains will cross one day.
Hi Guys, I pray that Capt Carly is recovered and brightening our world again, I want to thank the three of you for the many hours of fun I have had from your videos. Yes I love the warts and all it's the way I live my life also. I wish you guys a very happy Christmas and a healthy and prosperous new year.
Keep her lit. Reg
So glad you got one in the end. I love mine and just about to pipe it into the V birth this weekend to spread the heat around better, gets up to 24 degrees in mine and thats on the lowest setting. Hope you three have a fab Christmas and New Year :)
Them heaters are good, lots of my friends are van lifers and they all have them . All I would say is make sure you let it run for a good hour or two once it gets up to temperature or you will find it will kick out a lot of smoke du to carbon buildup 👍 apologies for the bad spelling and I hope Carly gets well soon
Glad to see you guys are doing better and warm. 22'F/-5.5C in Ohio..
Wow, that's chilly! We've had a few freezing nights now over here and the heater has done a great job of warming the boat so that we're blissfully unaware.
We don't sleep with the heater running and I wake up normally an hour before Carly, so I switch the heater on then and when she wakes up the boat is all toasty and warm.
Awesome presentation on the diesel heater. I just bought one from Amazon and have exactly the same issues with the location and my conclusion before i saw your video was exactly the same. Your suggestions to upgrade the accessories is perfect.i hope to watch more of your videos. And as a total dog lover your second best friend besides your wife is great
Hi Dom, great to see you n Hank again.
Get well soon Carly. With a warm boat now, you'll be fine in no time 😘.
Have a happy Christmas🎄, Looking forward to seeing you in 2021 🙏.
Thanks David, hope you have a great Christmas too! 🍻
Glad Carly is on the mend, nice job with the heater install, hope you all have a great xmas if we dont see you before, Steve
Great job, thank you for sharing your experience.
Great job and welcome back
I hope Carly gets back to her old healthy self soon, and Merry Christmas!
Thank you. Merry Christmas to you too 🍾
Great job guys and lovely to see you back. Brilliant that Carly continues to get well. Stay safe and looking forward to seeing your adventures in 2021!
Thanks, Cliif, I hope 2021 is a better year for ALL of us!
Have a great Christmas 🍻
Good to see you are going to be warm over the winter, not sure Santa is going to fit all of Hanks presents down that chimney he will have to come up with another way. Look forward to the next one.
Well we'll leave a mince pie and some scotch at the bottom of the 'chimney' all the same, I have a funny feeling that he'll still make it down and they'll be gone by morning 😬
Merry Christmas Cadoha crew! Hope Carly is well by now.
She's doing great thanks, Robert. Hope you're having as good a festive period as 2020 will allow. 🙏🏻🍻
Another successful project under your belt as good as I have seen in most new domestic houses.
The plumbers use tried and tested kits they fitted hundreds of times before and between you and me they still muck it up from time to time. Well done big fella.
You are rather good at all this
Regards Sailing Tabula Rasa x
Mostly just watched lots and lots of videos of other people installing them, and tried to copy them as best as I could. Monkey see, monkey do 😬😬
Hope you're keeping well and are set to have a great Christmas. 🙏🏻
Well done sorting that boat, I’d like to think someone would do the same if it was my boat 👍👍
Glad to hear that Carlie's feeling better and the boat is warm!! Have a great Christmas and let's hope, for all of us, a much better New Year!! Looking forward to future episodes!
Thanks guys for another great video. Hope Carly gets well soon. Stay safe, and warm!
Cheers, Phillip. Hope you're staying safe and well and are able to have as good a Christmas as 2020 will allow 🍻
@@CadohaAdventures cheers guys, have a great Christmas and best wishes for 2021. My Poppy says hi to Hank!
Get well soon Carly, Have a wonderful Christmas all 3 of you!!
you take good care of Carly m8 , our Webasto is also clicking all day / night long ( so nothing new there - forget the clicking ) . heating & ventilation has always been an issue everywhere ( boat , house , container whatever ). merry x-mas , take care of each other , give Hank a big hug -> grtz from the netherlands .
Covid is rife in Chatham, mask up when you are up this way!
I'm glad that Carly is on the mend now, my father got very poorly when living his old wooden boat, keep that heating cranked up 😉.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New year to all on Cadoha.
Is it really? We didn't exactly do much socialising when we were working up that way, just got on with work and then it was the 2.5 hour drive back 😂
Hope you're managing to avoid it though 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@CadohaAdventures the highest levels in the country now, after being in Tier 1 before lockdown 2.
These heaters are designed to be fitted to an external surface, e.g. the wall or floor of a van so that the exhaust connection is outside any accommodation space. They're not designed to be fitted in a locker inside your living space, though you can fit them somewhere like a cockpit locker, as long as it's sealed from the boat interior - the same way a gas locker is, but of course don't fit one in there!. The mounting gasket sits between the heater and the exterior wall/floor, creating an airtight seal. Also, that type of gas detector takes up to 90 minutes to sound the alarm, this is to avoid things like burning your toast setting it off. You need one that's visible so you can regularly/easily check the readings to see if they're increasing.
Great video. Very informative and helpful. 👋 hope Carly got over her illness quickly!
I do hope Carly is feeling better. Another great video. Merry Christmas and God bless.
thanks for a good show as an classic vw owner (the ones that burn) I can recommend a product called Blaze cut It is a stand alone rope shaped devise that goes off with a bang when a fire is started.
Will be sure to check that out, never hurts to be able to quickly put fires out! 🙏🏻
Hi guys, hope you’re better now Carly? Great video as ever ;) welcome to boat life. I have just fitted a similar unit in the campervan and like yours it was showing Hz instead of temperature, all I did (after searching interwebs ) was to press top left and top right together and it changes between temperature and pump pulse rate. Naturally both are connected.
Hope to catch up again next year when you drift by the Dart. Happy Christmas and a warm new year 😉🥂🎉
I have no doubt that we'll be pit stopping in the Dart again next year as we head to the Scilly isles, hopefully. I bet that heater keeps a camper van toasty and warm for sure!
Hope you guys are staying safe and well, and of course Eduardough! 😁🙏🏻
All credit to you BIG MAN for attending to that other boat ........ sadly, there's many that wouldn't do that UUuuugh!!?
I'm hopeful that most people would, the vast majority of boat owners we've met have all been super helpful, so the eternal optimist in me hopes that if the same thing happened to our boat, a good soul would put her back where she belongs 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Hope you're keeping well. 🍻
20:15 Hank waking up, classical dog!
He is getting lazier and lazier at waking up in the mornings.
Once upon a time he'd wake us up to take him out, a couple of years later and he'd just get up the moment we did, a couple of years after that (present day) and we can be up, have breakfast, go get the mail, come back to the boat, make coffee etc, and he hasn't so much as stirred! 😂
@@CadohaAdventures I send my 24 year old daughter your videos just to see Hank, Our family has a Keeshond named Ted, he is much like Hank!
This is only the second video I've seen on your channel. Definitely enjoying it, but when I see a Vizsla, I must hit subscribe. It's good to see the V can hang with the boating life.
yes Happy Christmas, glad Carly is getting better stay safe and warm and look forward to a easier 2021
Great video. We’ve been watching all of SV Delos but now going to binge watch all of your videos. Looks exciting.
great work and after seeing a 'dealer' suggesting the use of galv EMT as exhaust tubing and saying thats okay, well, nice to see proper standards of materials and installation!
Well we were a bit paranoid about getting it wrong, so went the whole hog to try and fit it as safely as we could 🙏
Interesting installation. I have never seen one of these modified for boat installation. Just one caution comes to mind. You showed us how you could hold the super insulated exhaust pipe. What about the bracket, which is attached over just small insulation. Is there a danger that it could get so hot it could burn the wood it is attached to?
Another thought has just come to mind. If you could find a route to run the fuel pipe from the boat diesel tank it would be way more convenient, and potentialy much less smelly. Then maybe you could mount the pump further away, so that you don't hear it.
So sad to see lovely Carly so poorly. Hope you are soon much better. Virtual hugs and kisses to you Carly!
Hey thanks for the feedback. The bracket where it connects to the wall doesn't seem to get too hot at all, thankfully, but it was something that I did think about too, so not sure what I would have tried if it did get worryingly hot, consulted RUclips again I think 😂
We did think about a direct connection to the boats fuel system, but we've had so many issues with our old fuel tanks this year that I thought I'd sooner keep them separate, even if it was more of a chore to keep filling them up.
But maybe in the future, once I get fully on top of the boats fuel system, perhaps I'll feel brave enough to rig it up directly 🙏🏻😁
Congratulations on a very well thought out and well installed heater. Get well Carly and Merry Christmas to the Cadoha crew!
Even if its not a how to video.. you did a good job! Sad to see those other two yachts in such disrepair :-( good job spotting the problem. Cheers merry christmas
Brilliant- Thank you! I’m a live aboard in the US & ended up ordering the sealed exhaust & an aluminum angle bracket for my install from the UK- can’t find em on my side of the pond. Tapping an external 20L fuel can for diesel, as we have it onboard as reserve anyway. Happy 2021 & Thanks again!
I have one in my VW t5 van and love it
well done guys get a dehumidifyer you cant warm damp air it will make your heater work better keep safe merry christmas to all
Think a dehumidifier is next on the list 👌🏻
Carly, I feel our pain. As a life long suffer of asthma, bronchitis, and pneumonia I know what you are going through and it is NOT fun. Hopefully you are recovered by now. Take care and keep warm!!!
Aye m8’s, loving it! 🔥 🛠️ Hope you all are OK. Good seamanship caring for that boat with snapped mooring lines! 💪 Wishing you fantastic holidays!
Oh just bought one of those for the Brenda C, hope all three of you are doing well :-)
Your videos are always pretty good...BUT..that haircut is excellent on you! Keep the beard tight, yo. Nice save on that yacht..and a very merry Christmas!
Ha ha, thanks, will do 😁
OMG. when I first heard Carly's cough I thought COVID-19.. Pneumonia isn't fun.. Well done on protecting the family, Don
Seasons greetings! Thank you.
Happy holidays! 🍻😁
Good on you for the dock line assist, and yes, epoch cut with the haircut.... nice dog.
Good to see you back.👍 Carly has my empathy - I went down back in October with high temp, persistent cough but a negative PCR test. The coughing was so bad I moved into the spare bedroom as it bad coughing episodes in the day but was horrendous at night😂 It took six weeks to resolve- never had nowt like that afore.
Good install with good attention to detail especially on the exhaust. Are you aware you can get ceramic fibre rope (sometimes called stove rope) to insulate the difficult pieces around brackets and the component right against the hull.
A standard rule of thumb in HVAC is 10% fresh air make up in a recirculated system. If you have a vent in your companion way hatches that should suffice. I suppose you could always get a meter to measure the Carbon Dioxide levels in the cabin because that is the ‘proxy’ of stale air.
Did I miss something? Are you working in the Marina workshops now? I thought wow he looks at home in that workshop he seems to know where everything is! I am the only user in my shop and I can never find anything.😂
Have a good Christmas and New Year you three!🎄⛵️😀👍
Some great tips there Norman! We do keep all the hatches cracked open to help with airflow.
Your condition sounds exactly like Carlys, we could have sworn it was Covid, but she tested negative. The coughing was always so much worse at night, or whenever she was laying down.
And yes I am working in the marina with the guys here. More of a general dogs body (I feel like they're doing me a favour more than anything 🤣) I help them with the skilled work, mostly passing tools to them and lifting heavy stuff like the masts, but one of the major perks is I get to watch and learn so much as well as being allowed to use the tools for anything I need, after hours of course. 😬
also, if you click the top left and right buttons on the controller it will switch from hz to degrees C
Clearly a man who knows his way around them better than I. Thanks for sharing your wisdom with us 😁😁🍻🍻
@@CadohaAdventures one last thing. If you're interested, you can adjust the maximum and minimum pump rates. if you find you're getting too hot and have to keep switching the heater off, you can dial it down a bit. BUT if you go too low it can lead to sooting up. there are plenty of vids describing how to do this. essentially you enter the admin mode by entering a passcode, i cant remember what it is now 1866 maybe, and from there, there are a number of settings you can mess with.
I think just last week SV Delos installed a heating system on their single hull. I see you subscribe to them so you may want to check them out. They are currently in the US. I hope Carly feels better. That cough sounds horrendous. Glad to see you are hurridied to accommodate her. Best to you both, Jane, Philadelphia
Cudos on the man up! Good man ...take care of that Lil lady..hope she recovers quickly and merry Christmas!
Great video!
Hi Dom you done a good job there but you might want to think about some sort of ventilation in the heater locker or have you !!??
Cheers for reply Dom u 2 keep safe sorry 3 Hank missed the vids.
and finally, if the clicking of the pump bothers you, you can either suspend it with string or rubber or something so the sound doesnt resonate, or wrap it in some kind of insulation. personally, i find it quite soothing, like a metonome or a grandfather clock.
Wondered where you guys were?
Hope Carleyis on the mend and great content as always.
Merry Christmas.
Can’t remember how I did it but you can change the Hz to deg C. Good job.
Hello guys have just watched your video.. sorry if I am late to the party and making comments that have already been made lol
My friends boat is at Shamrock quay... so not far from you guys
Hope Carly is feeling better and i look forward to watching more videos of you three
Hope the weather warms up for all of ...
You just saved somebodies boat! Good Man.
I hope that someone would do the same for us if it ever came to it.
Thank you very much for the MVHeating contact 👍
I hope things go well for the both of you. 👍🙂 Seeing as how it’s the festive season, do please take care not to catch any other nasty viruses. Happy holidays, just in case I forget later on....
vagabond epicurean (based in maryland usa) installed one of those on his 30ft sailboat. they are currently travelling down the ICW, to get to warmer climes. As for Carly's cough, I had the precursor to pneumonia about 20 years ago and to say the least it was no fun. Hope she gets or got better after the heater did it's job. Jubilee clips aka hose clamps.
Thank you, she certainly seems to be making an epic recovery since the heating went in, which, to be fair, also coincided with a second round of antibiotics, which, I guess may have helped a little bit too.
you can change it over to temperature control. Press and hold up arrow then hit settings button, will switch it over to temperature controlled.
Awesome, thanks for the tip, I've just done exactly that! 🍻
Hi Guys, bit late picking this up but as usual very watchable, my best wishes for a speedy and full recovery for Capt Carly. Please look after yourselves and have a Happy Christmas. looking forward to the next show. Good Luck. Reg
Hi … I’m a bit late to this video but I have a Truma heater in my rv and the manual says for the ticking pump to suspend it with a 30’ from horizontal slope with it. I sleep ( when on holiday) with my head 2 ft above it …. All’s good 👍🏻
Excellent video, I just bought a heater. I thought I had all the bits, no exhaust at all. I was just going to fit as is, but It seems I need to buy a few more pieces.
👍🏻
I'd say the exhaust, clamps, exhaust paste, and as few connections as possible will be the way to go.
Best of luck with your install 🙏🏻🍻⛵️
Well done on the heating, great job. Hope Carly is feeling much much better. Merry Christmas guys, see you out there very soon! Xx
Hello Cadoha! It has been a while. I heard the boss Carly was ill and I am glad you are doing ok. I had Covid and it was not fun at all. I still do not know where or when I got it. All good now had my negative tests to get back to work. I want to stop and wish you guys the happiest of holidays and a awesome New Year! Let's hope 2021 is better and we can go back to normal. Stay warm and I will talk to you later! Dom take take of the (boss, captain) you have a great lady there!
Yeah a few tips to anyone fitting one of these heaters or who already has one
Take everything following as something I did and not nessesarily what anyone/you should do,
I am NOT a professioanal and you chose your own settings and methods for doing things on your equipment,
however I am a liveaboard and have fitted my heater myself and it runs all day every day under the following conditions for a good number of years now, only stopping and starting inorder to fill up the 20 litre outboard fuel tank I have it hooked up to, The valve on the quick connect saves it from introducing airlock into the fuel pipe also, meaning they wont be any that have to be purged each fill up, I did it this way because I don't want to be messing with a fuel transfer pump or pouring fuel into a funnel or such, which is just dangerous and messy on a boat,
I have not had a bit of trouble out of my heater since tweaking the settings and using the fuel additive (however I certainly did before)
without further adoo
on the sooting up of the deiesel heater, this happens especially when run on low heat for prolonged periods, especially when some of us that like to tinker with these newer chinese controllers factory settings and turn them way down in the settings, so we don't have to turn them off when the boat gets a little too toasty, also to save them from drying the air out a little too much or getting the boat too hot too quickly some people like to turn off the thermostaticly controlled aspect of the controller off and just use the pulse settings to control the unit, as this maintains a more constant heat and can save massive amounts of fuel and saves you from having to turn it down when, also for if you leave the hatch open on occasion seen as if you leave the hatch open the thermostat wont kick in and try to make up for the lost heat, it will use the same amount of fuel it would have if the hatch was closed, it will just let the heat out for that period of time the hatch was open is all
I have seen these heaters factory settings set to 1.5/1.6 in the idle or low end of the pulse settings which is just way too hot for my 24 ft boat, these heaters can be dropped down in the settings to the equivalent of about an 800w heater when idling = 0.8 in the lower pulse setting and 1500 rpm on the lower fan speed when doing so which also allows for correct fuel to air ratio when doing so and then on the hight setting I have seen them set way too high on the high side of the pulse setting (seen them set to like 5.6 and above) and too low on the fan setting on the high also which would give bad fuel air ratio and dangerously overheat and waste fuel the unit IMO I personally wouldnt go over 5.0 on the high side of the pulse setting and have mine set to on the high fan speed all the way to max 5000 rpm (the computer controls this according to a number of conditions while runnign so it's not nessesarily going to be blasting it up to 5000 rpm when it kicks up, it just ramps up to what it needs the rpm to be for the conditions
generally over time the custom settings will mean you will be able to run the heater continuously all day every day on idle taking the edge off and keeping the boat from being humid without it beant too hot, which will mean on idle it will be more prone to sooting up, some of this can be prolonged by running the heater on full power for a while every now and again to blast iany build up out, however doing this uses tonnes of fuel over time and really only prolongs the inevitable is some cases, so here is the fix I persoanlly use to overcome any sooting up issues and clogging of the atomizer screen and deposit on the glowplug,
Exocet Gas Oil Supreme Fuel Additive - 1 Litre
here is an example of the one I use, I have seen people charging rediculous prices for this stuff so I urge you shop arround,
www.ernestdoeshop.com/product/exocet-gas-oil-supreme-fuel-additive/?attribute_pa_size=1-litre
it's cheap and you only need a small measured amount in each fuel fill up to keep the heater from sooting up, this will need to be measured (I use a Syringe) 1 liter will last me a couple of years at the very least basically and at £20/£24 inc-vat it just pays for itself and it's going to reduce the cost an annoyance of taking appart and replacing the atomizer screen and all that annoying maintenance stuff
WARNING this stuff is highly concentrated and dangerous, use throw away gloves when dosing, clean up any spill or drip thoughly and if your reusing the syringe store it in a sealed container safely away from pets and kids possibly coming into contact with it (cannot stress that enough)
the exocet allows me to run on 0.8 continuously without the need to ever ramp it up to high to give it a blast out,
This stuff is used for anything from Cars/Tractors/Marine engines to diesel based home heating systems as a standard additive
also on the exhaust pipe make sure you use some Exhaust Paste to seal the joints (I used and reccomend Granville)
Good job ...
we have hydronic heat "ESPAR " ,but I would like to have forced air as well ..we'll see how that Chinese heater stands up for you..
Ours is plumbed into the main tank so there is no diesel fuel mess and stink to transfer and infiltrate the boat when you refuel the heater..
Merry CHRISTMAS..
Yes there are certainly some catches to the cheap heating options, if Carly had her way, we'd be sat in front of a log. burning stove right now. But yes, we will see how it hold up and I'll happily report back at the end of the winter and do a review of how it performed.
If it was crap, I'll be the first to admit it. 😂
Love your Vizsla!!
i've installed a few of these and always put my air intake inside. never had a problem. but for peace of mind I always have a carbon monoxide detector.
I agree with Phil and Dom - these are essentially sealed heaters with two air intakes - one for the combustion chamber and a separate intake for the air to be heated. Bar the separate combustion air intake for the burner - which can be ported from outside - there is no connection between the burner and the space being heated as long as the burner module, its intake and exhaust are airtight. The heating intake air is taken from the room or outside and merely blown over a hot surface (the sealed burner with its discrete air supply) and ducted into the space. So the stale air argument is a non starter. Boats have all sorts of vents plus hatches and companionways so there's plenty of fresh air coming in anyway! It makes sense to reheat warm recirculated air rather than continually pumping in cold, fresh (and moisture laden!!) air - that moisture will condense somewhere once it's passed through the heater; either in the exhaust in the case of an external combustion supply (and soot it up more quickly) or in cold spots in the boat in the case of the ducted air. Recirculation along with controlled boat ventilation via hatches etc. should result in a drier environment which is no bad thing. Easily checked with a hygrometer.
Good dead done. Hair cut takes years off you.
All the best for 2021 Guys
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Good job. Rather you be safe and use the right materials than using the equipment in the original packaging.
hello! thank you both for another brill' video. Bowwave Paul mentioned using the same system and it consumed 1 Lit. per hour. Maybe you can give us 'voyeurs' some diesel consumption figures, hopefully less🙃👀. Best wishes from Stephen
[Alarm might bleep when the battery is low]
Well so far we use about 22 litres a week, and that's burning at about a medium setting on average, although we drop the power down to min when we're warm enough. We have. the heater running for a couple of hours in the morning, and probably about 5 hours in the evening, so our consumption seems pretty good so far.
I'm going to do a review at the. end of the winter, so I will start making some more detailed notes so we have some more accurate data to work through come spring 😁
Totting up the diesel purchases will be handy data come Spring. Hopefully you'll get away with under half a litre per hour whilst running. [Alarm might bleep when the battery is low]
Gosh! Worth researching whether red diesel will be allowed in pleasure craft (and non-fixed homes) from January 1st. 2021. It was banned by Brussels [EU] in recent years and UK lost an appeal. Reduced tax red diesel makes that unit very economical. [you might find you can use a low-tax heating oil/diesel anyway since it's not for propulsion and in a separate tank]
@@stephenbuckle6180 most marinas do a 60/40% spilt with diesel refuelling.
You are Brilliant! Well done! Give Frank an extra hug from sue and stu x
Great job, Dom, both on the heater and saving someone else's boat from harm. I'm very happy to have heard that Carly is so much better. Take care of yourselves and have a wonderful Christmas and New Year.
Love your how to videos
You should do a video on Frank's electric cat or floating platform with the chair and BBQ on it....lol
Good to hear she's on the road to recovery. Well done in providing a major part environmentally in that journey. It's all too easy to just plug a fan heater in when you have shore power, now you can survive on the hook too.
Loving the hair mate, suits you (oh!).
Much love from Cornwall.
Yes we really love the idea of being able to anchor out in some quiet spots in the winter while staying toasty and warm at the same time 🙏🏻⛵️😁
@@CadohaAdventures Haha we all want that. We also want to charge our phones, run the laptop with youtube and music and the speakers of course while also staying warm and toasty, have a water maker, hair dryer, washing machine etc etc
But thats all not as easy as said ^^ (unfortunately)
10000% agree with air intake position, I’m having so much trouble with the new tenders on my yacht with the recircs and inlets being too small etc. Also getting rid of the cheap Chinese stuff is a must...... not going to plum it into your main diesel tanks eventually? If not you could run a small priming bulb on a hose as a refill line, did it on the limo tender I have been commissioning. Also clip on the tender putting kill cord on 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼💪🏼 so many cruisers leave this off and one day it will come and bite them. Can’t wait for Hank and Bentley to meet!! Also I would always have a carbon monoxide in your saloon and cabin or wherever there is a heater outlet into the boat. Better safe than sorry! Battery’s are “Hank”ooks lovely! Put some foam around the fuel pump like some armaflex, also done it with a fuel pump on a tender and it really dampens the noise, wrap it round and cable tie it on! Are you guys this side of the river and staying in tier 2?
So many wisdom bombs being shared, it's amazing and every day really is a school day! Can't wait to get the dogs together and I think Carly was even talking about a lead the right size for your dog this morning too!
Beers and a dog walk feel long over due. Hope you're keeping well for Christmas! 🍻🍻
@@CadohaAdventures thanks! I’m deploying again middle of January so hopefully can catch up before that! Also just as something you might be interested in, there is a fancy dress paddle board with over 100 people taking part on the river here on Saturday......me and some mates doing it! DM me on Instagram if you are keen I will give you the details!
I haven't done a heater install yet, either, but your's looks dang spiffy! You hinted that it is expandable in case you want to run another line aft?
I hope that helps Carly get better, and you are comfortably settled in for a very Merry Christmas!
Another great video. We have a similar system in our boat and it is brilliant. Never too many CO alarms, install in cabins and living area as this is where you live and will never notice when the poisoning starts and it may come from cooking too. Is the ticking from the pump driving you mad yet? There are many videos on RUclips around this. Most conclude the pump needs to be hung and not fixed to well to a hard substrate. Just a thought.
The ticking is annoying at first but we’ve since changed the pump (original one failed) and the new one seems much quieter, that or I’m just used to it by now, you know like people who live close to main roads who don’t notice the noise anymore, perhaps? 😬😬
Nice video. It looks like your fuel pump is mounted horizontal aka flat to the sole of that locker. It should be mounted at an angle like 45 degrees or so. This is so you don't develop an airlock within the pump.
Great job. Merry Christmas to you both and Hank 👍🐕🍷☺🇿🇦
Well done. I fitted one to replace an Eberspacher all the pipes and tubes were a complete match which saved loads of money. My diesel comes from the fuel tank .if anyone does that make sure the clamps are tight. Engine cut out due to air getting in via the heater fuel line. In a force 6. Get Well try to be active as that will help clear your lungs don't lay flat.
You wouldn't need heat living here in South Florida, but solar powered A/C would be a blessing.
Very true! Although I think our plans are to head north again next year, to see how Covid and Brexit play out whilst exploring some beauty on our doorstep again 😁
If you want to reduce the clicking sound I ended up hanging the pump via a zip tie from a bracket so it’s suspended in mid air and it dramatically reduces the clicking 👍
I know you didn't show it and I'm not sure if anyone asked but do you have a return vent for cold air to the heater? Because it will help it heat dramatically if it doesn't have to pull a vacuum to bring air back in under the seating from around all the gaps. Just an open vent back into that compartment.
Carly has my sympathy, I spent five days in hospital with the same issue. Unfortunately for me it has proved to be a reoccurring nightmare. Nothing to do with the environment just a sensitive chest. The only thing that I can suggest is to get to a doc as soon as possible when it starts. Now the dear lady is on the mend I hope you both have a quiet Xmas and next year will be covid free.
Covid will indeed be making Christmas much quieter than usual, but as long as everyone is well, then that's the main thing. Carly is also bouncing back really well.
Hope you have a great Christmas too.
Hi, I am fitting one to a caravan, the only thing that stand out is your fuel pump is flat mounted. They say it has to be at a 30 degree incline up in the direction of the pumping action , to stop air blocks in the line.
Good Job Dom, those brackets are called 'munsen' brackets, you can get a pack of ten for around £6...screwfix, plumbers merchant etc. re:someone's question about the bracket getting too hot and burning the boat...no it won't.(it's too far away from the heater for a start). my only concern (and a minor one as the installation looks statically fixed in several places) is if the pipe were to vibrate and rub though and seep exhaust gases where brackets are touching? so period checks cover that, but the same would be said for fuel brackets, wiring brackets etc. oh, and good job on going OTT on the CO alarms, if I was going to fit my heater below a living and sleeping space I would have done exactly the same. (although I would have tried not to install it there).
re: the argument for recirculation or fresh? yeh I've seen that and if I recall the main argument was condensation is less if you grab fresh air from outside? I don't completely agree with that because you need to take into account that in the middle of the mountains or city etc. well away from the sea; atmospheric humidity can be very low or very high, if like in the UK you have periods of persistent rain and evaporation then the outside relative humidity levels can be over 80% on any given day! if your boat were dryer than that you'd be sucking that in. Not withstanding this installation is not in a camper van driving through mountains and cities but open to sea spray, fog, mist etc so a high humidity environment anyway.
So my preference is for recirculation. for quicker reheat, less cycling (so less irritating clicking and wear, less fuel). You are right too in saying that leaving hatches ajar will give fresh air, and I also left this comment elsewhere: when you think about it; when your in and out of a companionway several times a day you will get all the air movement you need!
So in IMHO recirculation is the best option. When injecting gases into a diving chamber we would walk around wafting towels for a minute or two to dilute/mix the atmosphere so I know walking around will give plenty of air movement guaranteed. Mould forms on damp static spots with little air flow, if your living aboard; then other than lockers; you probably won't get any. Condensation though is a problem, not for all boats, but some more than others, so plenty of air flow and if it becomes an issue buy a small dehumidifier. It's a case of suck it and see and deal with the issue if it is one.
(you could also tie the nice new pennant to Hanks tail and hide a few biscuits around the boat ha ha ).
Something else of interest to you, you can now control these cheap heaters with a mobile phone, check out david maclukie videos (you probably have already), there are at least two ways to do it.
Anyhow well done both for 2020 and season 2, enjoyed it all and fair winds etc looking forward for 2021.
And one final note (because I just cannot resist it ;-)......the comment from a viewer who said your haircut took twenty yrs off you.......he/she is lying. ;-)
The warm exaust will keep the lockers and bilge dry😎