The local people of Thornborough should be given greater recognition for saving the site from gravel extraction, like a lot of the surrounding land was. The gravel extraction blight has destroyed so much in the UK, near me there was a Neolithic village of international archaeological importance that was destroyed along with several causewayed enclosures - which in my area there are way more than in the stonehenge landscape - same as cursus Monuments and the number of small henges, hengiform monuments and a rather puzzling soon to be destroyed approximately 230m henge next to Heathrow airport, we also have lost stone circles at Staines and Kingston (which boasts) a coronation stone for the Anglo Saxon Kings as well as a Silbury hill type mound under the Tower of London and much much more - the idea of London and the surrounding area being devoid of activity until the Romans arrived is far from the truth. Great video, very well made as always, all the best.
I enjoyed that very much. I'll be watching more! I just want to add that I recognize that you have a great education, but it takes more than that to make a good video, no matter the topic. I watch a lot of videos on all kinds of subjects, and I do not have a great education. So I just want to tell you that I think you have what it takes to have a great channel. Please keep making videos. I'm just a random old lady in the US who loves history, and it's clear that you do as well.
Very well presented about a relatively ignored and fascinating part of Cumbria. What’s interesting about the crop mark circle shown here, near the Giants Grave, is that it’s presumably connected in some way to the other two extinct stone (or possibly wood) circle marks actually within the Giants Grave field, one showing the postholes of the circle very clearly, and the other, larger circle, with a crop mark thicker and not showing the whole circle, being nearer and to the left of the two standing stones, as seen on Google Earth from the 2018 rephotographing of the area. On the road to Millom from Silecroft are various stone gateposts, clearly former standing stones, even if no longer always in their original positions, as the stones are very thick, and one or two are not in an ideal gatepost alignment. No farmer, past or present, uses an oversized, or possibly very expensive (in both effort and/or cash) gatepost, where he doesn’t have to. The whole Millom area is riddled with evidence, even now, of the distant past, much of it almost unnoticed. The landscape must have been extraordinary in prehistoric times, even allowing for the tree cover no doubt present. Looking forward to the next video.
No doubt. Those post holes are missing some big objects. The cropmark at Gutterby is overlayed by an probable Iron Age enclosure, so it's possible they were gone by the Roman period!
Insightful, thank you Adam. Just so that you know, the algorithm is starting to recommend your videos. It recommended this to me yesterday, as it's seen that you're posting regularly over the past couple of months, and it knows that I knew someone from, and had an interest in the modern day Millom area, some years ago and that I'm interested in (AD) history. So it's marketing you to people with an interest in history and the specific areas - its yet to focus on people interested in UK prehistory. I find it fascinating how it learns ...and can appreciate how frustrating it is. The good news is that the algo does seem to be scaling back from it's production line requirement of one video a week ...which kills creativity.
Fascinating topic ! I only wish I'd known more of the archaeology of the Lake District when I visited from Australia some thirty years ago, but the W.W.W. was in its infancy, and a lot of the information was not out there. I visited Henges and Monuments in Southern England, Scotland and Ireland, but was unaware that I was so close to these wonderful structures, and now, alas, I am too old and infirm to visit again, so thank you for bringing them to me ! Cheers from rural South Australia.
Agreed. I was a camp counselor at the YMCA National Outdoors Pursuits Centre in 1980, yest after I'd turned 30. My interest in stones/ spirituality hadn't made itself known to me yet.
Makes you wonder how many in the east were lost to ploughing in the vast flat lands from york to London, since they all seem to be in the west county or in the hills somewhere
much of the east of the country was either marsh or under water or now sea, making identification and location difficult to find. many secrets to be found under the North Sea.
Lee bien lo que te dire realmente me produce risa que uds piensen barbaridades de los Stonehenge estos monumentos hay por todas partes del Mundo en Tatin del valle Tucumán República Argentina hay uno pero también hay en Perú en México en China en Mongolia en miles de lugares y el Ojo del Sahara es igual que esto igual que los mis bites de ls usan de Pascua son todos a igusl que la piedra bolas de Costa Rica y de Sarajevo que son los más grandes del mundo que también hay piedra bola por todo el mundo en Chile hasta en la Antártida Canadá España Brasil Argentina México El Salvador Guatemala por todas partes del mundo hay piedra bola eso fue cuando la luna se acercó a la tierra en su bamboleara la tierra por millones de años acerca la luna que casi chocó con la tierra esto no lo ve nadie no entiendo porque se llevaron piedra por millones de años la luna también succionó la lava de los volcanes por eso la piedra que están en los muros del Perú son negras Partió la Pangea la llevó a la Panchp a tocar contra la placa del pacífico la placa americana bueno creo todos los desiertos del mundo eso hizo la luna no lo entiende no ven por que son tan duro los ingleses científicos dejen de mentir dejen de mentir por favor no se dan cuenta que fue la luna
Lee bien lo que te dire realmente me produce risa que uds piensen barbaridades de los Stonehenge estos monumentos hay por todas partes del Mundo en Tatin del valle Tucumán República Argentina hay uno pero también hay en Perú en México en China en Mongolia en miles de lugares y el Ojo del Sahara es igual que esto igual que los mis bites de ls usan de Pascua son todos a igusl que la piedra bolas de Costa Rica y de Sarajevo que son los más grandes del mundo que también hay piedra bola por todo el mundo en Chile hasta en la Antártida Canadá España Brasil Argentina México El Salvador Guatemala por todas partes del mundo hay piedra bola eso fue cuando la luna se acercó a la tierra en su bamboleara la tierra por millones de años acerca la luna que casi chocó con la tierra esto no lo ve nadie no entiendo porque se llevaron piedra por millones de años la luna también succionó la lava de los volcanes por eso la piedra que están en los muros del Perú son negras Partió la Pangea la llevó a la Panchp a tocar contra la placa del pacífico la placa americana bueno creo todos los desiertos del mundo eso hizo la luna no lo entiende no ven por que son tan duro los ingleses científicos dejen de mentir dejen de mentir por favor no se dan cuenta que fue la lunal
My favourite stone circle is Torhousekie Stone Circle to the west of Wigtown in Dumfries and Galloway. It's a small, but perfectly formed recumbent stone circle. It also has a nodule of feldspar embedded into the stone facing south east. My own view is that there IS an explanation which correlates to all the evidence, but it is a cultural one and as such archaeology will never be able to uncover their true purpose. No matter how many 'sacred alignments' or interred/cremated people they find in it's environs.
Very much enjoyed watching this! We live very close to the standing stones in kirksanton and saw with our drone a couple of years ago during the drought the crop marks. But asides from that across the river from the standing stones, on protected land that’s densely overgrown and most of which is a marsh, is a hidden embankment and whether or not it’s connected obviously I don’t know but it has really got me wondering. Also a couple fields away from the stones overlooking blackcombe is a little mound/hill and is known locally as arrow hill, folk-law says that it may be a burial mound. Not fitting to usual types of burials or funerals around stones, could just be a glacial deposit but it’s an interesting concept.
Interesting. I'm originally from there, and although ive known about it most of my life, I've never been up to Swinside. There are a lot of neolithic monuments once you start to look.
Hi Adam, have just come across this video, absolutely loved it and have now bought your book about prehistoric Yorkshire. I was very intrigued about 'undetected' neolithic monuments and I wondered if you have any information on what is marked as a settlement near Brother's Water (grid 398117) The surrounding area is strewn with what appears to be glacial erratics, but one in particular seems to have been purposely erected as a standing stone, apologies I did not take a photo, but to me it is different to the rest of the surrounding stones. Thank you again.
Ahh - very interesting - the Dovedale Settlement. I actually mention that site in my Cumbria book. There’s a big cairn next to it, and it’s very odd. At the very least, it was last used as a settlement, but I suspect earlier use. There’s a ton of rock art in that little area, so Early to Mid Neolithic activity can’t be ruled out! Only survey and excavation will tell!
If you’re interested, the upcoming 2nd edition of my Cumbria book delves more deeply, and has some drone photos of the site. Otherwise, check my Twitter!
I’ve just moved back to Scotland after spending 8 years living in Brampton and exploring as much of Cumbria as possible. I do miss the ancient vibe of the whole area and I am lucky to have seen it’s magic!
@@AdamMorganIbbotson Fact! Cumbria is definitely part of that just modern history doesn’t say it like we see it! I live outside Dumfries now so still in the line headed up to the 12 Appostles. Where I live there is a mirror image between Criffel and Scarfell. Definitely feel there’s something in that?!
@@nikkigraham7494 Ah - well, interestingly, the 12 Apostles is a Cumbrian circle. It can be lumped in with Long Meg, Gamelands, Castlerigg, Elva Plain, and Swinside. Big megalithic henge-like enclosures , dating to the mid-to-late Neolithic (3200 -2500bc). You don’t often hear about it (or sadly much from Dumfries).
Your video was very interesting. I'm from Ulverston originally. I have long thought that academic studies of the landscape history & archaeology of High & Low Furness have neglected for far too long. I hope your channel goes some way to remedying this omission.
A wonderful video. I have been to Millom doze s of times. I have visited the Giant's Graves but I had no idea about the surrounding archaeology. A gem of a documentary. Your suggestion makes perfect sence.
Good to see you have made some more videos. Shap would indeed have been the Stonehenge of the north. Sad to think so much was destroyed, most probably in the last 200 to 300 years ago with revolutions in farming and the later Industrial Revolution with the need for transport routes, Shap avenue having been destroyed to make way for a railway. The stately home of those who destroyed it is now just an empty shell. Perhaps things don’t bode well for those who destroy monuments. Swinside had a narrow escape. When the landowner heard the tenant was about to destroy it he sent word not to. A smaller circle there was removed. I believe the Giants Grave was a long barrow.🤔. Also l think we should be careful not to label everything as sacred or ceremonial. Henges and circles probably had many uses and unfortunately we we never know. Summer and winter solstice do appear to have been important.
Thanks! I believe the purported long barrow at the Giants Grave was misreported. Cumbria has kong cairns, not long barrows, and no examples anywhere have flanking standing stones. Instead, it stands equidistant between two likely henge enclosures
Yes, stand corrected, l actually meant long cairn. I love tramping around south west lakes looking at prehistoric sites mainly because it is devoid of people 🤣
I thought the thought experiment about what if Stone Henge had been demolished was very interesting. How much else has the world lost, I wonder. We have so little left of what once was, and we try to connect such limited dots.
What a great video Adam - the location maps and site plans you added make all the difference. And I hit the subscribe button as soon as I heard you playing "Withnail and I music" (that was a bonus) .....:)
I thought I had, but I hadn't subscribed. Sorry. I _have_ _now_ subscribed... (can't have you being "upset", now, can I?!🥺) Thankyou for your walking, observing, noting, filming, mapping, presenting and uploading your knowledge, and sharing this knowledge, these photos etc with us... Its much appreciated - even by a generally 'unknowing' person such as me!! 🤞🤔🏴❤️🇬🇧🙂🖖
Cornwall is a magical place. Full of neolithic monuments. Everything on ley lines & interconnected. I lived in west Penwith many decades ago & explored a lot of then fairly unknown locations.
I'm enjoying your videos. My work used to take me through Wiltshire and loved to visit Avebury stone circle, the West Kennet Long Barrow and Silbury Hill. I became fascinated by it all and love hearing more about our prehistory. btw have you looked into Ley Lines?
Thanks! Really appreciate it. Google Ley Lines, you'll quickly see they're bunk. There's a great Tom Scott video about it - link: ruclips.net/video/LGwgT5jho6I/видео.html
I think there is a similar hidden or lost sacred landscape around Rudston. The lonely monolith there (the tallest in Britain) seems to have been part of a much larger complex. We know that a henge and several cursuses were destroyed but i suspect there's so much more we've lost, especially near the actual monolith. Some have called the nearby Willy Howe a proto-Silbury Hill
Hi Dave, fascinating mix of old and new technologies. Really well narrated and enjoyable to watch. Brick fields often appear on old OS maps so at one time maybe this was a common sight in the UK too. All the best!!
I have tried to put links to two website pages but clearly not allowed to put links. There was a geophys survey conducted of the Millom cropmark a few years ago and the results can be found on our Archaeology Project page. We also have a page looking at Prehistoric Millom which includes the six Bronze Age socketed axe heads found here last year. If you google Millom and District Local History Society. Again, many thanks for your videos, Adam.
@@AdamMorganIbbotson Exciting times here in Millom at the moment - about to start our community dig. We had a specialist drone survey conducted and the findings were very exciting. I suspect all that we are finding around here will be replicated in some way around the other cropmarks, especially Gutterby.
@@janbridget4020 amazing, and much needed work you’re doing! Gutterby is the most important for dating I imagine. If that other enclosure is Iron Age (it clearly is), and it overlies the possible henge - that’d be fantastic. There used to also be a concentric stone circle there - which would be the only one on the coast. Extremely exciting place
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Very much appreciated that wee thought experiment. Interesting indeed, thank you, subscribed - from a fellow currently in Pembrokeshire, dolmen country... which I recently noted is centrally located between the West coast of Ireland and the Eastern coast of England, were one to consider them part of one and the same territory - your mention of the Lake's centrality brought that to mind being that this area appears to have been such a hub of activity in the late neolithic (though whether that is due to unusual preservation or increased activity is another question, as you point out). All the best, A fellow megalithomaniac.
Really appreciate your thoughts on this. So important to avoid survivorship bias when thinking of these things. Puts me in mind of a recent study conducted into the 'original Stonehenge' which appears to have been first erected in Wales, then moved to the Salisbury site. Clearly, their world was more interconnected than isolated ruins suggest. Subscribed.
Nice one Sir, from one gazing at the area everyday from 30 miles west! Where are the Lidar pics please? Also, most historical societies had ferocious leaders and multitudes of servants doing their dirty work, it has always mystified me that historians throw out stories of grandiose neolithic stone parks yet nobody has been able to back up just how this work could have been done with the few humans healthily living, 'just down the road'? Like, ' get on social media Baldric and summon 10,000 monster men to move those little rocks, quick-like' !
@@drdoolittle5724 thanks! Yes, Neolithic and Bronze Age society was probably heavily top-down. Though, not sure what you mean about people ‘down the road’.
I've been to two so far, Birkrigg and the one on Cold fell (rebuilt by a local Farmer), I hope, once my partner is able to drive again, to visit Swinside and Castlerigg
This may allude to the setting in of the Iron Age when he sun, the Tropic and the northern part of the ecliptic, with the tropical sign ascended up from the earth towards the pole; which is a well known consequence of the increase angle of the poles tilt till they arrive at 90 degrees.
@@AdamMorganIbbotson The ancients left an astrological map that speaks through the ages. So it is important, a tracking of the distance between the Poles, Ecliptic and Celestial, by measuring the expanse of the Obliquity of the Ecliptic (Arc) which is equal to the spread between the Poles.
The Great Cycle of Axis Rotation completes itself in the course of a cycle thar spans two million one hundred and sixty thousand years ( 2,160,000 years). This is the span of time that it takes the celestial projection of the earths axis to rotate vertically from East to North, from North to West, from West to the East - a cycle of 360 degrees at the rate of one degree every 6,000 years. I believe.
This is amazing, i live in Barrow-in-furness, my brother lives in millom, i'm for sure visiting these sights, i knew about some sort of henge around here but i lived down south most my life, time to explore 😂😊
Hi Adam. Following Howard Crowhurst's video on the vast geometric alignments of sites throughout Brittany and Britain, may I ask if you have looked at Rudston? Google Earth images clearly indicate lost circles and other traces in the flood plain North East of the monument. All in the approximate area of Howard's missing 3,4 5 alignments , involving SIlbury Hill, Rudston, and Castlerigg. I have visited for Howard recently but the crops are too high. I find it fascinating, especially in the context of the more intimate landscape of the area, it's monuments and the Gypsy Race river.
Ah, funnily enough, I’ve written a whole book about Yorkshire’s prehistoric monuments - including Rudston. I obviously can’t fit all my ideas in a RUclips comment. But basically, the Gypsy Race is a winter born stream - meaning it only flows during winter. The Monolith and it’s cursus monuments all sit at the only north / south aligned but of the Gypsy Race. They may be connected to the Winter Solstice.
@AdamMorganIbbotson Thank you. Crowhurst' puts the 3-4-5 datum point from Silbury about 300m NE of the monument, although the monument does align with its immediate neighbours in Yorkshire. I reckon a large cairn , very near the Race was removed for building and field clearance or even for the gully sides of the stream
no one seems to mention the possible damage done by Capability Brown and his like in the 18th century, they changed the landscape so dramatically over a vast area. what was lost then?
@AdamMorganIbbotson It's definitely a good thing to do. Keep up the good work. The aerial imagery is particularly fascinating. I have been enthralled by the ancient history of Cumbria since I was a kid. Anyway, I was just checking in. P.S. I speak to your father when he comes into Musgraves in Windermere. He's a regular there! I did ask him if you could do a talk to Staveley and Ings History society - perhaps you could? Ad altiora!
They will be asking the same questions in 5000 yrs. What if, Tower Bridge, Corby Steelworks, and the Walky Talky, had survived? Lost mythical temples to lost gods.
The 'circle' shown here is not a perfect circle but there is a perfect circle (or half of it) to the north of the Giant's stones and a smaller perfect circle to the south. The 'circle' shown here has 'dots' around the inner self, but again the 'circle' is not uniform so it doesn't seem in keeping with the linear of 'stone circles'.
@@AdamMorganIbbotson Agree with wonky but the circle in question is more like a runny egg yolk. When viewing many other circles from above most are generic circles.
I will buy your book for sure and I will visit this places... again. But this time with perspective I haven't before. Thanks for video - I am really interested in history which is build on facts not on historians' visions of witnesses' visions of writings made by somebody to pleased or accused someone else, what we see with numbers of scripts during the centuries. Archaeology and science is only answer and then we can use all this scripts to find some cultural context of what we found and deducted. It's just my thinking exercise but from the first time I've seen all this megaliths, pyramids, sculptress and calendars - being a child yet - I thought, that it for sure was some different, maybe even developed civilisation, which was caring about time because of some catastrophe which had happened long, long time before, just to check if not happen again, or just calculation of moon year which every 33 years is getting back to solar year, or the way to show and calculate the way between the points. That the answers I am still looking for.
@@perunshogun7276 thanks! The new edition of my Cumbria book comes out mid November - highly recommend waiting til that comes out, as there are 40+ new sites, plus new info for all previous sites!
What evidence is there of ritualistic or ceremonial uses for any neolithic sites? Surely many different uses, some practical some ceremonial, but generally unknowable.
"Did these different monuments co-exist and interact with each other?" Yes. They had a practical use. They were 'computers' linked by energy lines. They created and emitted/received frequencies. Dowsing is a cheaper way to initially confirm this.
Let's be completely honest ? Despite all the archaeology and all the erudite speculation, we absolutely haven't got the faintest idea what was really going on and we probably never will have.
Malik H Jabbar presentations on RUclips, Adam and Eve , start viewing at 37 mins, he has an interesting take which would / could explain these circles with the line drawn through them.
Lay lines etc are quite an old idea - and also nonsensical in my opinion. There are so many prehistoric sites across the UK and Europe, you could place a line anywhere and have it align.
@@AdamMorganIbbotson I don’t believe this is a lay line, though I don’t really know a lot about lay lines, I believe this may represent the pole / poles at an angle which may only occur at certain ages.
Interesting but I'm not sure what your point is here. Of course it would be interesting if everything from forever could be preserved but how could that possibly work over thousands of years? Are you suggesting a massive archeological project? You sask, "How would we see Neolithic peoples differently?" Well, how would we? They are clearly skilled in ways we still can't imagine, with the ability to move massive stones for miles & hoist them without the use of modern machinery---we have lost those skills. I often wonder at the passion of archeologists for proclaiming almost everything to be connected to some sort of ritual or mystical rite---my word, if those neolithic people were actually performing the number of rituals imputed to them, when did they have time to hunt, fish, learn the new skills of agriculture, work their stones, discover metalworking, figure out that melting stones yielded copper or tin. It's not like they could run to the corner store for sandwich---their lives must have been at best pleasantly busy but sometimes a frantic battle to exist, & never mind tribal rivalries. So I do think further investigation wouldcertainly yield new ideas---I'd suspect that the henges had multiple purposes, as areas for celebration & ritual, as landmarks for travelers (not so much w/the road signs when you don't have writing!), looks like a nice place for a market on Wednesdays ("Set your stall up just left of the big stone over there, Joe.") & a way of claiming an area for a particular group, which was still a bit of a new idea then. I do wish you'd provided more information about the similarities & differences among the various sites, and YOUR insights as a knowledgeable person in this field, as opposed to my completely untutored musings. Antway, I'll be back to see if I can become a bit less untutored, & thanks for sharing.
As the video says, it’s a thought experiment. Like you say, the focus on sites like Stonehenge have skewed our opinions and understandings of prehistoric building. If the focus was on other sites, now lost, how would our perceptions change? Nothing more than a musing on survivorship bias - something the layperson may not know of
Why do you refer to everything in Kilometres and metres? How far do I have to travel between silecroft, utterly and The Giants Grave? Do I have enough petrol? Do I have the time, considering my car's clock is in MPH and I know my car's MPG, as it says so in my car's handbook! The road signs are in miles as well!
Your car speedometer has Kilometers and miles on it, there is only 1 petrol station in the area so make sure you have plenty of fuel to cover 10 miles or so!
0.26 “It’s towering stones have etched themselves into the Western zeitgeist”. Really? I thought that zeitgeists couldn’t be etched, only engraved or overpainted. In other words, what high falutin’ nonsense…..
Why add artificial dust and debris to some of the photographs? What purpose does this serve? For me it really spoiled what could have otherwise been a really interesting programme.
Non excavation cannot be classed as criminal activity. Your thought experiment was quite frankly weak and pointless. Be grateful for what has been preserved.
I obviously use ‘criminal’ in a metaphorical way. And I am grateful for what has survived - that’s my point. I do think it’s very important to factor in lost sites. Anyone with a brain it their head can see they receive relatively little attention in the pop narrative.
It's clearly NOT a lost stonehenge. It's just an ordinary henge that has been ploughed over like thousands of other neolithic sites in agricultural fields.
Lots of ancient references to Bridget worship around the mouth of the river Esk Estuary while opposite is the Isle of man, a name from those ancient times when the land was seen to be shaped in male and female outlines and worshipped as such, river estuary's seen as Vaginas and when you see it in this light you can put into place the ancients and what theywere doing at certain sites.
How can you compare Stonhenge to the beautifully polished monuments of the same age in Egypt. Compared to them it just looks like a jumble of rough stones. Compare them to the 11,000 year old Gobekli Tepi. There is no comparison.
Of course you can compare them. They may not be as 'impressive', but they're prehistoric megalithic monuments; a style of architecture practically unique to prehistory. AND, in the drizzly pastel uplands of Britain, they have a totally different aesthetic experience to the arid examples you describe. Imagine living in a cold northern semi-swampland, cut off from the rest of Europe by sea. They're strikingly beautiful.
The local people of Thornborough should be given greater recognition for saving the site from gravel extraction, like a lot of the surrounding land was.
The gravel extraction blight has destroyed so much in the UK, near me there was a Neolithic village of international archaeological importance that was destroyed along with several causewayed enclosures - which in my area there are way more than in the stonehenge landscape - same as cursus Monuments and the number of small henges, hengiform monuments and a rather puzzling soon to be destroyed approximately 230m henge next to Heathrow airport, we also have lost stone circles at Staines and Kingston (which boasts) a coronation stone for the Anglo Saxon Kings as well as a Silbury hill type mound under the Tower of London and much much more - the idea of London and the surrounding area being devoid of activity until the Romans arrived is far from the truth.
Great video, very well made as always, all the best.
@@SHPR2013 thanks! Appreciate the support and insight!
I enjoyed that very much. I'll be watching more! I just want to add that I recognize that you have a great education, but it takes more than that to make a good video, no matter the topic. I watch a lot of videos on all kinds of subjects, and I do not have a great education. So I just want to tell you that I think you have what it takes to have a great channel. Please keep making videos. I'm just a random old lady in the US who loves history, and it's clear that you do as well.
''No one is ever just random' from another old.random student, loved your comment.
@@valetta202 If I had these kinds of videos when I was a student, I might have been a better student!
Very happy you enjoyed it! Old ladies are my target audience ❤️
Very well presented about a relatively ignored and fascinating part of Cumbria. What’s interesting about the crop mark circle shown here, near the Giants Grave, is that it’s presumably connected in some way to the other two extinct stone (or possibly wood) circle marks actually within the Giants Grave field, one showing the postholes of the circle very clearly, and the other, larger circle, with a crop mark thicker and not showing the whole circle, being nearer and to the left of the two standing stones, as seen on Google Earth from the 2018 rephotographing of the area.
On the road to Millom from Silecroft are various stone gateposts, clearly former standing stones, even if no longer always in their original positions, as the stones are very thick, and one or two are not in an ideal gatepost alignment. No farmer, past or present, uses an oversized, or possibly very expensive (in both effort and/or cash) gatepost, where he doesn’t have to.
The whole Millom area is riddled with evidence, even now, of the distant past, much of it almost unnoticed. The landscape must have been extraordinary in prehistoric times, even allowing for the tree cover no doubt present. Looking forward to the next video.
No doubt. Those post holes are missing some big objects. The cropmark at Gutterby is overlayed by an probable Iron Age enclosure, so it's possible they were gone by the Roman period!
Insightful, thank you Adam.
Just so that you know, the algorithm is starting to recommend your videos. It recommended this to me yesterday, as it's seen that you're posting regularly over the past couple of months, and it knows that I knew someone from, and had an interest in the modern day Millom area, some years ago and that I'm interested in (AD) history. So it's marketing you to people with an interest in history and the specific areas - its yet to focus on people interested in UK prehistory. I find it fascinating how it learns ...and can appreciate how frustrating it is. The good news is that the algo does seem to be scaling back from it's production line requirement of one video a week ...which kills creativity.
Another cracking video, Adam. Looking forward to seeing more, mate!
Thanks!
Fascinating topic ! I only wish I'd known more of the archaeology of the Lake District when I visited from Australia some thirty years ago, but the W.W.W. was in its infancy, and a lot of the information was not out there. I visited Henges and Monuments in Southern England, Scotland and Ireland, but was unaware that I was so close to these wonderful structures, and now, alas, I am too old and infirm to visit again, so thank you for bringing them to me ! Cheers from rural South Australia.
Thanks! Very happy you enjoyed it
Agreed. I was a camp counselor at the YMCA National Outdoors Pursuits Centre in 1980, yest after I'd turned 30. My interest in stones/ spirituality hadn't made itself known to me yet.
Why has it taken RUclips so long to recommend one of your videos to me? What fun! I’ll be back for more.
I think the algorithm may hate niche prehistory videos...
Makes you wonder how many in the east were lost to ploughing in the vast flat lands from york to London, since they all seem to be in the west county or in the hills somewhere
Judging by the many crop marks - a lot! Though, few with inner post / stone settings like those at Millom
much of the east of the country was either marsh or under water or now sea, making identification and location difficult to find. many secrets to be found under the North Sea.
Lee bien lo que te dire realmente me produce risa que uds piensen barbaridades de los Stonehenge estos monumentos hay por todas partes del
Mundo en Tatin del valle Tucumán República Argentina hay uno pero también hay en Perú en México en China en Mongolia en miles de lugares y el Ojo del Sahara es igual que esto igual que los mis bites de ls usan de Pascua son todos a igusl que la piedra bolas de Costa Rica y de Sarajevo que son los más grandes del mundo que también hay piedra bola por todo el mundo en Chile hasta en la Antártida Canadá España Brasil Argentina México El Salvador Guatemala por todas partes del mundo hay piedra bola eso fue cuando la luna se acercó a la tierra en su bamboleara la tierra por millones de años acerca la luna que casi chocó con la tierra esto no lo ve nadie no entiendo porque se llevaron piedra por millones de años la luna también succionó la lava de los volcanes por eso la piedra que están en los muros del Perú son negras Partió la Pangea la llevó a la Panchp a tocar contra la placa del pacífico la placa americana bueno creo todos los desiertos del mundo eso hizo la luna no lo entiende no ven por que son tan duro los ingleses científicos dejen de mentir dejen de mentir por favor no se dan cuenta que fue la luna
Lee bien lo que te dire realmente me produce risa que uds piensen barbaridades de los Stonehenge estos monumentos hay por todas partes del
Mundo en Tatin del valle Tucumán República Argentina hay uno pero también hay en Perú en México en China en Mongolia en miles de lugares y el Ojo del Sahara es igual que esto igual que los mis bites de ls usan de Pascua son todos a igusl que la piedra bolas de Costa Rica y de Sarajevo que son los más grandes del mundo que también hay piedra bola por todo el mundo en Chile hasta en la Antártida Canadá España Brasil Argentina México El Salvador Guatemala por todas partes del mundo hay piedra bola eso fue cuando la luna se acercó a la tierra en su bamboleara la tierra por millones de años acerca la luna que casi chocó con la tierra esto no lo ve nadie no entiendo porque se llevaron piedra por millones de años la luna también succionó la lava de los volcanes por eso la piedra que están en los muros del Perú son negras Partió la Pangea la llevó a la Panchp a tocar contra la placa del pacífico la placa americana bueno creo todos los desiertos del mundo eso hizo la luna no lo entiende no ven por que son tan duro los ingleses científicos dejen de mentir dejen de mentir por favor no se dan cuenta que fue la lunal
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My favourite stone circle is Torhousekie Stone Circle to the west of Wigtown in Dumfries and Galloway. It's a small, but perfectly formed recumbent stone circle. It also has a nodule of feldspar embedded into the stone facing south east.
My own view is that there IS an explanation which correlates to all the evidence, but it is a cultural one and as such archaeology will never be able to uncover their true purpose. No matter how many 'sacred alignments' or interred/cremated people they find in it's environs.
It, like the stone circles of North Wales and Cumbria, was possibly Irish in design.
@@AdamMorganIbbotson Maybe
This is excellent.. I hope you make more! Thank you!
I’ve been watching the other ones.. but.. you do a great job.. and I hope you make more
@@ruththinkingoutside.707 thanks!
Very much enjoyed watching this! We live very close to the standing stones in kirksanton and saw with our drone a couple of years ago during the drought the crop marks. But asides from that across the river from the standing stones, on protected land that’s densely overgrown and most of which is a marsh, is a hidden embankment and whether or not it’s connected obviously I don’t know but it has really got me wondering. Also a couple fields away from the stones overlooking blackcombe is a little mound/hill and is known locally as arrow hill, folk-law says that it may be a burial mound. Not fitting to usual types of burials or funerals around stones, could just be a glacial deposit but it’s an interesting concept.
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Never suspect glacial where a Bronze Age shaman will suffice
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Interesting. I'm originally from there, and although ive known about it most of my life, I've never been up to Swinside. There are a lot of neolithic monuments once you start to look.
There certainly are!
Hi Adam, have just come across this video, absolutely loved it and have now bought your book about prehistoric Yorkshire. I was very intrigued about 'undetected' neolithic monuments and I wondered if you have any information on what is marked as a settlement near Brother's Water (grid 398117) The surrounding area is strewn with what appears to be glacial erratics, but one in particular seems to have been purposely erected as a standing stone, apologies I did not take a photo, but to me it is different to the rest of the surrounding stones. Thank you again.
Ahh - very interesting - the Dovedale Settlement. I actually mention that site in my Cumbria book. There’s a big cairn next to it, and it’s very odd. At the very least, it was last used as a settlement, but I suspect earlier use. There’s a ton of rock art in that little area, so Early to Mid Neolithic activity can’t be ruled out! Only survey and excavation will tell!
If you’re interested, the upcoming 2nd edition of my Cumbria book delves more deeply, and has some drone photos of the site. Otherwise, check my Twitter!
I am very much interested, when will the new edition be available?
@@philbenaiges4205 sometime around October
I’ve just moved back to Scotland after spending 8 years living in Brampton and exploring as much of Cumbria as possible. I do miss the ancient vibe of the whole area and I am lucky to have seen it’s magic!
@@nikkigraham7494 to be fair 80% of Scotland has that vibe!
@@AdamMorganIbbotson Fact! Cumbria is definitely part of that just modern history doesn’t say it like we see it!
I live outside Dumfries now so still in the line headed up to the 12 Appostles. Where I live there is a mirror image between Criffel and Scarfell. Definitely feel there’s something in that?!
@@nikkigraham7494 Ah - well, interestingly, the 12 Apostles is a Cumbrian circle. It can be lumped in with Long Meg, Gamelands, Castlerigg, Elva Plain, and Swinside. Big megalithic henge-like enclosures , dating to the mid-to-late Neolithic (3200 -2500bc). You don’t often hear about it (or sadly much from Dumfries).
Your video was very interesting. I'm from Ulverston originally. I have long thought that academic studies of the landscape history & archaeology of High & Low Furness have neglected for far too long. I hope your channel goes some way to remedying this omission.
A wonderful video. I have been to Millom doze s of times. I have visited the Giant's Graves but I had no idea about the surrounding archaeology. A gem of a documentary. Your suggestion makes perfect sence.
Good to see you have made some more videos. Shap would indeed have been the Stonehenge of the north. Sad to think so much was destroyed, most probably in the last 200 to 300 years ago with revolutions in farming and the later Industrial Revolution with the need for transport routes, Shap avenue having been destroyed to make way for a railway. The stately home of those who destroyed it is now just an empty shell. Perhaps things don’t bode well for those who destroy monuments. Swinside had a narrow escape. When the landowner heard the tenant was about to destroy it he sent word not to. A smaller circle there was removed.
I believe the Giants Grave was a long barrow.🤔. Also l think we should be careful not to label everything as sacred or ceremonial. Henges and circles probably had many uses and unfortunately we we never know. Summer and winter solstice do appear to have been important.
Thanks! I believe the purported long barrow at the Giants Grave was misreported. Cumbria has kong cairns, not long barrows, and no examples anywhere have flanking standing stones. Instead, it stands equidistant between two likely henge enclosures
Yes, stand corrected, l actually meant long cairn. I love tramping around south west lakes looking at prehistoric sites mainly because it is devoid of people 🤣
I thought the thought experiment about what if Stone Henge had been demolished was very interesting. How much else has the world lost, I wonder. We have so little left of what once was, and we try to connect such limited dots.
What a great video Adam - the location maps and site plans you added make all the difference. And I hit the subscribe button as soon as I heard you playing "Withnail and I music" (that was a bonus) .....:)
Withnail and I fans stick together. It’s a rule.
I thought I had, but I hadn't subscribed. Sorry. I _have_ _now_ subscribed... (can't have you being "upset", now, can I?!🥺) Thankyou for your walking, observing, noting, filming, mapping, presenting and uploading your knowledge, and sharing this knowledge, these photos etc with us... Its much appreciated - even by a generally 'unknowing' person such as me!!
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I'm also curious about the standing stones in Cornwall.
I’m not driving that far for a RUclips video
Cornwall is a magical place. Full of neolithic monuments. Everything on ley lines & interconnected. I lived in west Penwith many decades ago & explored a lot of then fairly unknown locations.
I'm enjoying your videos. My work used to take me through Wiltshire and loved to visit Avebury stone circle, the West Kennet Long Barrow and Silbury Hill. I became fascinated by it all and love hearing more about our prehistory. btw have you looked into Ley Lines?
Thanks! Really appreciate it.
Google Ley Lines, you'll quickly see they're bunk. There's a great Tom Scott video about it - link: ruclips.net/video/LGwgT5jho6I/видео.html
@@AdamMorganIbbotson Ah ok thanks ❤️
I think there is a similar hidden or lost sacred landscape around Rudston. The lonely monolith there (the tallest in Britain) seems to have been part of a much larger complex. We know that a henge and several cursuses were destroyed but i suspect there's so much more we've lost, especially near the actual monolith. Some have called the nearby Willy Howe a proto-Silbury Hill
You’re right! My book Yorkshire’s Prehistoric Monuments dips into that.
Greetings from Darlington. Very interesting & thought provoking. Subscribed.
Hi Dave, fascinating mix of old and new technologies. Really well narrated and enjoyable to watch.
Brick fields often appear on old OS maps so at one time maybe this was a common sight in the UK too.
All the best!!
Thanks! But my name's Adam, not Dave!
@@AdamMorganIbbotson Sorry Adam, I was writing a comment on brick making in India, Dave Knowles, and It must have got mixed up.
@@davidberlanny3308 No worries. Maybe leave a nice comment on my video too next time!
I have tried to put links to two website pages but clearly not allowed to put links. There was a geophys survey conducted of the Millom cropmark a few years ago and the results can be found on our Archaeology Project page. We also have a page looking at Prehistoric Millom which includes the six Bronze Age socketed axe heads found here last year. If you google Millom and District Local History Society. Again, many thanks for your videos, Adam.
Thanks! I actually read your survey results a few weeks ago! Fascinating stuff as always!
@@AdamMorganIbbotson Exciting times here in Millom at the moment - about to start our community dig. We had a specialist drone survey conducted and the findings were very exciting. I suspect all that we are finding around here will be replicated in some way around the other cropmarks, especially Gutterby.
@@janbridget4020 amazing, and much needed work you’re doing! Gutterby is the most important for dating I imagine. If that other enclosure is Iron Age (it clearly is), and it overlies the possible henge - that’d be fantastic. There used to also be a concentric stone circle there - which would be the only one on the coast. Extremely exciting place
@@AdamMorganIbbotson Totally agree - I mean Gutterby.
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Thank you. I really enjoyed learning new things. hope it goes well .
Best of luck!
Very much appreciated that wee thought experiment. Interesting indeed, thank you, subscribed - from a fellow currently in Pembrokeshire, dolmen country... which I recently noted is centrally located between the West coast of Ireland and the Eastern coast of England, were one to consider them part of one and the same territory - your mention of the Lake's centrality brought that to mind being that this area appears to have been such a hub of activity in the late neolithic (though whether that is due to unusual preservation or increased activity is another question, as you point out).
All the best,
A fellow megalithomaniac.
@@JesseP.Watson Thanks!
My family is from Pembrokeshire! St Davids - lovely part of the world.
Crop circles are often found in these area-many near Stonehenge. Have had sentient experiences walking in a crop circle in a wheat field (?).
You sound like Theresa May
Thank you for your history videos. Very entertaining and educating. 🎉
Very glad you enjoy! ❤️
Really appreciate your thoughts on this. So important to avoid survivorship bias when thinking of these things. Puts me in mind of a recent study conducted into the 'original Stonehenge' which appears to have been first erected in Wales, then moved to the Salisbury site. Clearly, their world was more interconnected than isolated ruins suggest. Subscribed.
@@thatsilvesterchap Thanks! Appreciate it!
Nice one Sir, from one gazing at the area everyday from 30 miles west! Where are the Lidar pics please? Also, most historical societies had ferocious leaders and multitudes of servants doing their dirty work, it has always mystified me that historians throw out stories of grandiose neolithic stone parks yet nobody has been able to back up just how this work could have been done with the few humans healthily living, 'just down the road'? Like, ' get on social media Baldric and summon 10,000 monster men to move those little rocks, quick-like' !
@@drdoolittle5724 thanks! Yes, Neolithic and Bronze Age society was probably heavily top-down. Though, not sure what you mean about people ‘down the road’.
@@AdamMorganIbbotson local habitations of thousands of serfs
Brilliant, Adam, thank you!
I've been to two so far, Birkrigg and the one on Cold fell (rebuilt by a local Farmer), I hope, once my partner is able to drive again, to visit Swinside and Castlerigg
If you do any, make it Swinside, and pray there aren't any cows in the field! Castlerigg is fantastic in Jan / Feb
This may allude to the setting in of the Iron Age when he sun, the Tropic and the northern part of the ecliptic, with the tropical sign ascended up from the earth towards the pole; which is a well known consequence of the increase angle of the poles tilt till they arrive at 90 degrees.
Probably Neolithic - 2500 years before the Iron Age
@@AdamMorganIbbotson The ancients left an astrological map that speaks through the ages. So it is important, a tracking of the distance between the Poles, Ecliptic and Celestial, by measuring the expanse of the Obliquity of the Ecliptic (Arc) which is equal to the spread between the Poles.
The Great Cycle of Axis Rotation.
The changing obliquity of the Ecliptic, that is to say the tilt of the earths axis to the plane of the Ecliptic.
The Great Cycle of Axis Rotation completes itself in the course of a cycle thar spans two million one hundred and sixty thousand years ( 2,160,000 years). This is the span of time that it takes the celestial projection of the earths axis to rotate vertically from East to North, from North to West, from West to the East - a cycle of 360 degrees at the rate of one degree every 6,000 years. I believe.
So the pre Celtic henge builders were descendents of Anatolian farmers ?
Pre Celtic, and pre-Beaker. These people were the first farmers in Britain. Long, long before the Celts
This is amazing, i live in Barrow-in-furness, my brother lives in millom, i'm for sure visiting these sights, i knew about some sort of henge around here but i lived down south most my life, time to explore 😂😊
@@benscotti1991 really appreciate it thanks!
Has anyone speculated on the possibility that they might have been entertainment and/or sporting facilities? A sort of prehistoric sports stadium?
It’s a great idea. You should do the research yourself and come to a conclusion
why do you reckon they started building circular enclosures? as a opposed to the previous long barrows and non circular mounds
@@eldraque4556 deforestation, maybe. Open skies
Very interesting. Thank you.
The end of Chapter 3 is a potent statement. Indeed, what if?
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Big up from Wiltshire.
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@@gerardgearon4206 thanks again!
What’s that 70s airport music?
I recorded it in Gatwick 40 years ago
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Hi Adam. Following Howard Crowhurst's video on the vast geometric alignments of sites throughout Brittany and Britain, may I ask if you have looked at Rudston? Google Earth images clearly indicate lost circles and other traces in the flood plain North East of the monument. All in the approximate area of Howard's missing 3,4 5 alignments , involving SIlbury Hill, Rudston, and Castlerigg. I have visited for Howard recently but the crops are too high. I find it fascinating, especially in the context of the more intimate landscape of the area, it's monuments and the Gypsy Race river.
Ah, funnily enough, I’ve written a whole book about Yorkshire’s prehistoric monuments - including Rudston.
I obviously can’t fit all my ideas in a RUclips comment. But basically, the Gypsy Race is a winter born stream - meaning it only flows during winter. The Monolith and it’s cursus monuments all sit at the only north / south aligned but of the Gypsy Race. They may be connected to the Winter Solstice.
@AdamMorganIbbotson Thank you. Crowhurst' puts the 3-4-5 datum point from Silbury about 300m NE of the monument, although the monument does align with its immediate neighbours in Yorkshire. I reckon a large cairn , very near the Race was removed for building and field clearance or even for the gully sides of the stream
@@AdamMorganIbbotson What's the book called
@@richardclegg7846 Yorkshire's Prehistoric Monuments - published by the History Press last October. I highly recommend (obviously)
Thank you very interesting
Just subbed.
Thanks!!
no one seems to mention the possible damage done by Capability Brown and his like in the 18th century, they changed the landscape so dramatically over a vast area. what was lost then?
Very good!
Thank you! Cheers!
So interesting!
Glad you think so!
my favourite track on earth is that to Swinside...potholes n all
6:37 - Irish henge at Catterick? Catterick is in Yorkshire.
@@Nastyswimmer Yeah, and there was an Irish-style Henge there (source: I live 10 mins from Catterick)
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@AdamMorganIbbotson It's definitely a good thing to do. Keep up the good work. The aerial imagery is particularly fascinating. I have been enthralled by the ancient history of Cumbria since I was a kid. Anyway, I was just checking in. P.S. I speak to your father when he comes into Musgraves in Windermere. He's a regular there! I did ask him if you could do a talk to Staveley and Ings History society - perhaps you could? Ad altiora!
Tell Ian I said hi
They will be asking the same questions in 5000 yrs. What if, Tower Bridge, Corby Steelworks, and the Walky Talky, had survived? Lost mythical temples to lost gods.
@@philipfieldhouse9229 Good analogy!
The 'circle' shown here is not a perfect circle but there is a perfect circle (or half of it) to the north of the Giant's stones and a smaller perfect circle to the south. The 'circle' shown here has 'dots' around the inner self, but again the 'circle' is not uniform so it doesn't seem in keeping with the linear of 'stone circles'.
Nope, wrong. Few to no stone circles are perfect. Almost all of them are wonky.
@@AdamMorganIbbotson Agree with wonky but the circle in question is more like a runny egg yolk. When viewing many other circles from above most are generic circles.
I will buy your book for sure and I will visit this places... again. But this time with perspective I haven't before.
Thanks for video - I am really interested in history which is build on facts not on historians' visions of witnesses' visions of writings made by somebody to pleased or accused someone else, what we see with numbers of scripts during the centuries.
Archaeology and science is only answer and then we can use all this scripts to find some cultural context of what we found and deducted.
It's just my thinking exercise but from the first time I've seen all this megaliths, pyramids, sculptress and calendars - being a child yet - I thought, that it for sure was some different, maybe even developed civilisation, which was caring about time because of some catastrophe which had happened long, long time before, just to check if not happen again, or just calculation of moon year which every 33 years is getting back to solar year, or the way to show and calculate the way between the points.
That the answers I am still looking for.
@@perunshogun7276 thanks! The new edition of my Cumbria book comes out mid November - highly recommend waiting til that comes out, as there are 40+ new sites, plus new info for all previous sites!
Next time the aliens are making crop circles in my yard I'm asking them about these sites.
What evidence is there of ritualistic or ceremonial uses for any neolithic sites? Surely many different uses, some practical some ceremonial, but generally unknowable.
@@davidbickle118 yeah loads. Nowt practical about them lad
So, what evidence of ceremony or ritual has been found?
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Love it. Millom
"Did these different monuments co-exist and interact with each other?" Yes. They had a practical use. They were 'computers' linked by energy lines. They created and emitted/received frequencies. Dowsing is a cheaper way to initially confirm this.
Waggling a stick around a field says more about your excess free time than any archaeology. May I suggest a metal detector.
Let's be completely honest ?
Despite all the archaeology and all the erudite speculation, we absolutely haven't got the faintest idea what was really going on and we probably never will have.
Abosultely. Though, we can rule out some of the more out there ideas..
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Which still leaves us non the wiser.
They are entrances to the underworld. From that point you can deduce what was occurring.
@@ChrisShortyAllen Chris Shorty Allen, wrong on almost every comment posted. Utterly embarrassing behaviour!
9 stones near the coast A3 flowing water maternity
You edited this comment, yet it still makes no sense
Malik H Jabbar presentations on RUclips, Adam and Eve , start viewing at 37 mins, he has an interesting take which would / could explain these circles with the line drawn through them.
Lay lines etc are quite an old idea - and also nonsensical in my opinion. There are so many prehistoric sites across the UK and Europe, you could place a line anywhere and have it align.
@@AdamMorganIbbotson I don’t believe this is a lay line, though I don’t really know a lot about lay lines, I believe this may represent the pole / poles at an angle which may only occur at certain ages.
Interesting but I'm not sure what your point is here. Of course it would be interesting if everything from forever could be preserved but how could that possibly work over thousands of years? Are you suggesting a massive archeological project? You sask, "How would we see Neolithic peoples differently?" Well, how would we? They are clearly skilled in ways we still can't imagine, with the ability to move massive stones for miles & hoist them without the use of modern machinery---we have lost those skills. I often wonder at the passion of archeologists for proclaiming almost everything to be connected to some sort of ritual or mystical rite---my word, if those neolithic people were actually performing the number of rituals imputed to them, when did they have time to hunt, fish, learn the new skills of agriculture, work their stones, discover metalworking, figure out that melting stones yielded copper or tin. It's not like they could run to the corner store for sandwich---their lives must have been at best pleasantly busy but sometimes a frantic battle to exist, & never mind tribal rivalries. So I do think further investigation wouldcertainly yield new ideas---I'd suspect that the henges had multiple purposes, as areas for celebration & ritual, as landmarks for travelers (not so much w/the road signs when you don't have writing!), looks like a nice place for a market on Wednesdays ("Set your stall up just left of the big stone over there, Joe.") & a way of claiming an area for a particular group, which was still a bit of a new idea then. I do wish you'd provided more information about the similarities & differences among the various sites, and YOUR insights as a knowledgeable person in this field, as opposed to my completely untutored musings. Antway, I'll be back to see if I can become a bit less untutored, & thanks for sharing.
As the video says, it’s a thought experiment. Like you say, the focus on sites like Stonehenge have skewed our opinions and understandings of prehistoric building. If the focus was on other sites, now lost, how would our perceptions change? Nothing more than a musing on survivorship bias - something the layperson may not know of
@@AdamMorganIbbotson I guess I thought everyone knew that Stonehenge was one of many monuments. I see now & look forward to more from your channel.
Don’t become less, very well put on how they found time to leave such monuments as stories / science / astrology to future generations.
Paint it, just stop oil no action taken
Paint the crops?
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Why do you refer to everything in Kilometres and metres?
How far do I have to travel between silecroft, utterly and The Giants Grave? Do I have enough petrol? Do I have the time, considering my car's clock is in MPH and I know my car's MPG, as it says so in my car's handbook! The road signs are in miles as well!
Welcome to the 21st century!
Your car speedometer has Kilometers and miles on it, there is only 1 petrol station in the area so make sure you have plenty of fuel to cover 10 miles or so!
I would recommend Mike Parker Pearsons book 'Stonehenge' Interesting thoughts but not true. Sorry!
What’s not true? Mike Parker Pearson? I may agree there 👍🏻
England's. Not Scotlands we have our own henges
@@joany531 England also has more henges! This one’s just lost is all
@@AdamMorganIbbotson and !!!!
0.26 “It’s towering stones have etched themselves into the Western zeitgeist”. Really? I thought that zeitgeists couldn’t be etched, only engraved or overpainted. In other words, what high falutin’ nonsense…..
Alright - no need to be mean to me :(
Why add artificial dust and debris to some of the photographs? What purpose does this serve? For me it really spoiled what could have otherwise been a really interesting programme.
Sorry!
Dumb archeology we build every building with the door facing north east as this us against the provaling wind ❤
@@lukepollard2202 What on earth has this got to do with anything? None of these entrances face north east… or have doors
Non excavation cannot be classed as criminal activity.
Your thought experiment was quite frankly weak and pointless.
Be grateful for what has been preserved.
I obviously use ‘criminal’ in a metaphorical way. And I am grateful for what has survived - that’s my point.
I do think it’s very important to factor in lost sites. Anyone with a brain it their head can see they receive relatively little attention in the pop narrative.
It's clearly NOT a lost stonehenge. It's just an ordinary henge that has been ploughed over like thousands of other neolithic sites in agricultural fields.
@@judewarner1536 Yeah, no sh*t. But the video wouldn’t have 22k views without that thumbnail. And 22k people wouldn’t learn about the Millom Lines.
Lots of ancient references to Bridget worship around the mouth of the river Esk Estuary while opposite is the Isle of man, a name from those ancient times when the land was seen to be shaped in male and female outlines and worshipped as such, river estuary's seen as Vaginas and when you see it in this light you can put into place the ancients and what theywere doing at certain sites.
You dirty bastard
How can you compare Stonhenge to the beautifully polished monuments of the same age in Egypt. Compared to them it just looks like a jumble of rough stones. Compare them to the 11,000 year old Gobekli Tepi. There is no comparison.
Of course you can compare them. They may not be as 'impressive', but they're prehistoric megalithic monuments; a style of architecture practically unique to prehistory.
AND, in the drizzly pastel uplands of Britain, they have a totally different aesthetic experience to the arid examples you describe. Imagine living in a cold northern semi-swampland, cut off from the rest of Europe by sea. They're strikingly beautiful.
I tried to watch your video but sadly the pointless music destroyed my concentration!
Bad taste, obviously
Not bad but rather too many repeats.
Do you actually need to know much about archaeology to enjoy sone circles or can you just rock up and get pissed?
@@Gooders478 you can rock up and get pissed anywhere you like! 👍🏻
@@AdamMorganIbbotson Hooray! chin chin!