The Tom Ward journey I think has to be the best from the show, like the guy was laughed at/ with and now is a valuable member of the team. Might not see him but what he’s doing behind the scenes with sponsorships is crazy, big up Tom.
@@marissam3268 2:08:04 it’s sad y’all think this is funny. You try being black & growing up in a time where every white kid is saying the n-word to you bc they heard it from H3. Y’all are weirdos
Love has quickly become my favourite cast member 😂 his jokes are slept on Also his outspokenness on SA/victims is so empowering, I wish I could've heard what he said when I was a kid, the future generation is so lucky to have this crew to support them!! ❤🎉
@@jayr9922 it is illegal, its just that they can always pull the "but in the lore theyre 100 years old!" card, its very difficult to give a verdict in court and in most cases where people get in trouble its because they also have real cp
Hate when the sun starts to go down in the background, it's just a reminder that the show's gonna be over soon. The background is my new timer of the show now.
I remember reading somewhere that p3d0s make up at LEAST 5% of the population... i hope it's not real, but honestly it's getting harder and harder to not believe. Ava really set us back :/
That was so cool! I also really liked the soundboard effects when discussing one of the most-watched child-entertainers in modern history. It's bad but it can still be funny, right? You people are beyond help. Also, all this info has been circulating for years, none of this is new. Strange no one talked about it until they realized it would hurt them to not cover it. But, yeah, Jimmie and Ethan are hilarious
@@marianazzz1she started out as a Colleen fan didn't she? Whose to say she wasn't groomed in to being her friend just like the rest of em. Hopefully Jojo will educate herself on what her friends are being cancelled for one day and come round. Dance moms was fucked up, can def see where growing up through that would play a factor in thought processing and judgment skills. Child famous too. She's young, seems like a nice girl just uneducated/ignorant. Let's hope she learns to grow out of it one day bc it is icky to be friends with people like jc & cb.
Idk.. I feel like the fact Ava is trans has nothing to do with anything ( I understand people online making horrible correlations about trans people) but at the end of the day, a 20 something year old even interacting with a 14 year old is very wrong, especially when you add in the fact their RUclips channel was huge at the time. If this was any normal person we would be calling them a complete creep? Let’s call it how it is please.
@@K14EI’m pretty surprised tbh, if this was James Charles we would be calling it how it is.. but they’re giving him the benefit of the doubt in a lot of ways… I’m not even halfway through though so my opinion could change
@@noealva yeah I will agree after watching the whole segment, they landed on the right take I think… just before that, they were kind of giving them the benefit of the doubt a lil bit, I know Ethan is just trying to not come across as transphobic and that’s obviously the way forward, but the person is clearly a total creep & I wish they woulda just said that from the beginning, like I’ve said in other posts, bring the same energy to Ava as we do for James Charles, that’s all!
I think RUclips just attracts them, unfortunately. It seems like there’s a lot in the influencer space specifically. I suppose the microcelebrity status must appeal to them. They have enough fame to influence kids and young people but not enough notoriety to the everyday public to be noticed or caught. It’s kinda wack, actually 😅
I'll be honest I think we're all blinded by the meme status and we're forgetting that she says problematic shit other other sentence out of her mouth. I'd argue that Colleen did groom her in the same way as the other kids and that she's been exploited as a child star and that she's damaged. I think if she does come on the show it might turn into another drama I'd rather h3 not get into. Maybe I'm just being paranoid
I went to a meeting and came back to the livestream and all I hear is 'All I ever did was say the N word'. I'm African descent and I didn't know the context but reconnecting to the live to hear just that line was funny as hell. 💀
I’m gonna say this. If an adult ever tells a kid to keep a secret from people in authority in his life, it is always grooming. Period end of sentence. “Don’t tell anyone” is just wrong.
Exactly my thoughts. It’s so weird they’re tiptoeing around this. Ethan said it’s because he doesn’t want to give into the transphobia regarding this situation. That’s like saying because James Charles is gay and being that gay people face discrimination that they wouldn’t go as hard on James…. But they did go hard on James so why the switch up with Ava… she’s a groomer.
@@fishnamedgoat2103 Ava-operate With The Local Authorities - Kris-operate works too. yes it does. and I don't appreciate you protecting Ava by excluding her from this joke.
I think yall are giving jimmy too much credit about what he knew and what he didn’t know. If he knew, which I think we’re all in agreement he did, that Ava, his best friend, was into loli, he should not have let Ava take any part in his content, where the majority of his audience are children. He essentially is allowing Ava to have access to his mostly child audience, knowing the kinds of things Ava is into. This might get me a lot of hate but I don’t care. We need to stop giving people like this the benefit of the doubt.
He had to have known she was into creepy stuff. There is a picture going around of Mr.beast in the background looking at the picture with the girl putting a gun in her mouth. It doesn't seem to be altered. She allegedly had more of that guys art hanging up
No you're completely right, I had a boyfriend when I was a teenager who was into weird hentai pr0n/l0li and ALL HIS FRIENDS were the same and it was no secret among them. If one guy is into it, there is NO WAY that their best friend and probably entire friend group is not at least very much aware, and even if not into it themselves, don't view it as a problem. Idk why people go so hard for Mr Beast like he is a saint beyond reproach, its very weird and tbh kinda dangerous. Its how people like Jimmy Saville happen. Putting celebrities on a pedestal and ignoring their problematic associations is a very bad idea.
I don't think you can possibly get a better picture than what Lena got with James Charles. It's physically impossible to get a better pic. Lena looked amazing.
@@purpleamber1 100+ comments on a podcast that you think fell of years ago is almost impressive. Who is rebar? Tell me it’s not the account with 4k subs I just found
ok it was funny LOL. as a black person who despises non-black ppl saying the nword, the whole joke is that saying the word is horrible but compared to sexualizing minors, its nothing lol. comedy is alive and well folks
Just because someone transitioned doesn’t mean they aren’t as responsible as someone who didn’t. If you can hate on James Charles just minutes before. Give Ava that same energy please. It’s giving trying not to be cancelled and that’s not the energy to have towards p3d0s
not defending her, but i haven’t seen anyone defend her actions because she’s trans. In fact, all i have seen is people being MORE vile and transphobic toward her.
@@vanessarayes7591 from like 2:40 to 2:41 they're passing the canned oxygen back and forth laughing with each other its just nice to see them genuinely gigglin lol
Hearing Ethan say there would be a bridge with Trisha if it were up to him… 💔 I know it’s a complicated dynamic bc of Hila and Moses but Ethan and Trish had such a good friendship, it’s sad that had to end. Even if Frenemies never came back, I would be stoked to hear that they made up and were besties again
While I know they aren’t defending Ava at all, I mean they are very clearly showing the nasty stuff she did. BUT it feels like they are really pulling their punches on the tone of it all because of their past bias and fearing making it transphobic. Idk, just feel like when they talk about other predators they have a far more aggressive tone and sometimes with even less evidence. There’s so much here and they seem so soft spoken about it. YOURE TALKING ABOUT A PRED.
It definitely SEEMS like a lot but when it consider the sheer number of content creators there are the percentage is probably very very low. That said, it’s probably higher than other industries because of the parasocial dynamic that is inherent in content creation.
I don't think we know the half of it. This type of thing was rife in the music scene as well during MySpace days/early social media and I NEVER see it talked about. Would love to see a big group of ex-emo/scene girls who were 14-17 in the mid-00s put in a room together and find out how many of them had inappropriate contact with an adult band member or someone adjacent like managers etc because I saw that happen first hand as well. Seems like it hasn't gotten much better with 'online celebrities'.
@@lucyjane3803talk to every teen girl that went to warped tour and 70% would tell you they had inappropriate interactions with band members 😂 especially the group BOTDF...
Appreciate the show criticizing Ava and holding her accountable while also being vocal about this being nothing to do with the trans community as a whole ☮️ and 🤍
Because people ARE using this to justify transphobia so it’s very important to point that out and recognising that. It’s doesn’t take away from the conversation at all and is important to be aware of people being against trans people vs being against grooming.
@@Rainkavickit’s mostly because right winged twitter has taken this story and ran with it to prove their own biases that trans people are evil, so unfortunately now creators have to obviously differentiate between the situation vs the individuals identity so that no harm is sent towards the trans community for something they had no involvement in
@@Rainkavick it’s cause there’s a lot of people online that are like “you see!” When it comes to trans people especially attacking Ava for being trans and exhibiting inappropriate behavior instead of just the issue at hand. They wanted to make sure they weren’t supporting that rhetoric which is nice
Ethan is going so easy on Ava compared to others like James Charles and Colleen, just because she’s 🏳️⚧️. I understand that there are certain narratives that are negatively affecting the 🏳️⚧️ and 🏳️🌈 community right now, but the situation it is what it is. If she didn’t do this stuff, then we wouldn’t be able to talk about it. If Ava had never transitioned and this story came out, how would Ethan have covered it? Certainly not like this, by making excuses and downplaying her actions. He would have literally came for blood. I feel like you shouldn’t be biased when it comes to this stuff. No matter the race or gender etc, we must stand up against this behavior. Personally, I’m in my early 20s and I have literally NEVER chatted inappropriately to a minor. Guys, it’s NOT NORMAL!!! Geez.
I agree, I appreciate that in the beginning he clarified that this situation has nothing to do with Ava Kris bring trans. But then I also felt like it was being played down a bit in comparison to dr. Disrespect situation, colleen situation and even james charles situation.
You went VEEEERY mildly on Ava just because she's trans. Trans people are like any other person, they're not above criticism. It's honestly weird that you are on the fence when it comes to condenming p word behavior from someone just because of being transgender.
sunnyv2's video doesn't deserve any apologies bc his criticisms of Ava's are completely different than what she actually did wrong. This is like me criticizing someone for being cringe, then after they get arrested robbing a bank pretending like I was right all along. No, those are two different issues 😂
While I thought Ethan and co were guilty of treating the Ava situation way softer than the Doc situation (which was almost identical or even LESS bad than the shit we saw Ava Chris do), I DO agree with you here. The Sunny V2 video is irrelevant to this situation.
Ava’s messages are disgusting and I feel like they were going too easy on her. Her transness has nothing to do with her being a creep. While I understand the terrible transphobia that has come out of this discussion, she shouldn’t be given the benefit of the doubt because of it.
she didn't do anything wrong. she just did some things "sus". it is not the same as drdisrespect setting up hookups at twitchcon, where we know he DID hook up with women & cheat on his wife, with CHILDREN... & ADMITTING IT. Groomer panic is at a fever pitch and it's only here because of Republicans beating the drum about queer p3d0files. It is absolutely horrifying & sad that Ava is being destroyed because of this evil.
Yes yes yes. How are they talking about some evidence being edgy jokes. Tana never said she felt like a victim, yet they dedicated 6 eps about codyko. And now, its just edgy....i mean...a 13 yo when you are 20....
Love h3 but even Moist did a better video on Ava and didn’t mention Ava being trans which is what most people should do considering them being trans has nothing to do with any of this.
Dude this story is so insane and you cracked down on Cody so hard. Please maybe stop covering this issue so much if you have biases! These victims were 13 and up in age. Was so hard to watch Ethan tip toe around this.
Someone in the comments pointed out that the name Ava is Lava without the L. Possibly Ava used that name after interacting with lava? I think it stands out and is important
Would this be straight up problematic if Ava was a straight white male? Remember, he was a straight white male at this time. Just because transphobia exists doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be called out when a human is inappropriate! Being trans shouldn’t be a shield.
@@momerathsoutgabe-mt1gc what? I’m not a hate watcher. Calling someone out on hypocrisy isn’t hate lol. It’s okay for all of us to hold each other accountable. Also, supporting someone doesn’t mean I have to agree with every one of their opinions. I like to challenge myself to listen to people I agree with and disagree with, so that way I have more information to make up my own mind on what I think.
I hope Tana is okay mentally. She's been through a lot ot bad stuff in her life, most of it in her very young life. 💕 I can see it in Tana's eyes in recent clips and vids that she wants to become a better person so bad, and that she gets very dissapointed in herself when she screws up and causes controversy for her. It doesnt matter what the topic or context of it is, there will always be people who will hate on her and try to "cancel" her. She's still a young adult in her 20s trying to figure life out. I'm a 36 year old female and I don't even have life figured out yet, but I am wiser now and more experienced at life now than I was at 26(Tana's current age). You can learn a whole heck of a lot in 10 years. Tana desperately wants to be the person she always wanted to be, herself. She was always trying to fit in and do whatever her friends or popular kids were doing when she was growing up, and it leaked over into social media when she got internet famous. She's realizing as she's aging that she was stupid to follow everyone else, and now she's trying to be herself, but she still struggles with that, especially when she has a few drinks. I wish her all the best. I truly do. Tana seems like such a kind, imaginative, and fun person under all the "pleasing" and "approval seeking" she craves. I blame her parents for that, specifically her father. Good luck Tana. You can and will become the best you, to ever show the world and yourself. Life is about learning and experience with some fun and some bummers sprinkled in. Family, friends, people, animals, those are the things that truly matter most in life. If you are surrounded by people and animals who love you, support you, encourages you etc, nothing can EVER stop you from achieving your goals and dreams in life 💯. I know, I've seen it happen time and time again. I want this for Tana so so much, and I hope she achieves it in her life. ✌️💕✨️
I agree. She's already matured so much and gained a lot of wisdom at what's still a young age. I have no doubt she will continue to level up and I absolutely love that for her
I fully wish all the best for Tana. That hotel room clip they played this ep when she was I think they said 17? Without the makeup and bleached hair she would have looked like an ACTUAL BABY. At that age I had left home and started university so was around people mostly older than me and it is a difficult dynamic being put in more adult situations when you are still a minor. Men who took advantage of her are scum, she was a child, there is no excuse. So I wish the best for her and the absolute worst for them ✨
Something that frustrates me a lot with the Ava situation is that you KNOW if Ava were a right-winger or just a cis white man then these guys who are leading the charge against her would have NO issue with Ava's behavior. The double standard pisses me off so much.
I got frustrated and exhausted by Ethan trying to give Ava Kris the benefit of the doubt. Being trans shouldn't be reason to he abused but it's also not a reason to excuse terrible behavior. If this was just any RUclipsr dude Ethan would've gone in from the start.
Yeah exactly…if it was a random cis man there wouldn’t people using this to justify transphobia and hate. But they ARE so it’s important to note that. Ethan wasn’t giving Ava any leeway or anything, he was just pointing out how (and why) right wing channels are covering this and how it’s harmful. So yeah, he’s being a bit more thorough and careful before calling someone a predator due to how others are using the situation.
I get what you’re saying completely, but I’m giving his seeming hypocrisy a pass because I think it comes from a place of good. He’s wary because the alt-right is soooo happy this happened because they can use it to gain support for the stereotype of the trans predator (which is a ‘monster under the bed’ that there’s no evidence for). So, yes, Ethan’s reaction here is so different to his reactions to like Cody Co etc etc, but I do genuinely think it comes from a place of good; he doesn’t want to feed the bigots. Yes he could have explained his ‘off’ reaction better, I think he should have begun with statistics and research about this stereotype and then differentiate this situation from it, and then he could have GONE IN on Ava if that makes sense? And also done a piece disproving the trans predator stereotype? Done two bits of good? But under the circumstances, I think his reaction is very human and understandable. He did call Ava out, he was just struggling internally with what I mentioned and I think that’s very valid. But I do see what you mean and get your frustration of course, I don’t think your frustration is invalid at all, I just see it differently
@@milarose275 agree with your take. Grooming is bad no matter who does it, h3 is just super carefull due to the groom3r being trans later in life. Thats it
47:38 i disagree entirely ... because if we are consistent that children under a certain age can't consent then it should be completely irrelevant if Lava feels Ava did something wrong or not. If an actual rape victim would say the same thing ....doesn't change anything about the rapist actions either
YES! Many victims of CSA or grooming feel special and close to their abuser. They may not realise till adulthood just how damaging the actions were. It is up to other ADULTS to step in, protect children and condem the people doing this. Children do not have the emotional maturity or understanding to either consent to these things or properly understand what is being done to them. It is OUR responsibility to harshly punish anyone that takes advantage of that innocence
Zach saying Jojo Siwa was dressed like a “normal good person” 😂
As opposed to her usual weird bad person vibes lmao
Lena taking a pic with James for the show is the funniest thing i’ve ever seen 😭
I know!!! Lena was glowing, literal perfect pose. Perfect skin. I dunno if a better picture was possible.
The Tom Ward journey I think has to be the best from the show, like the guy was laughed at/ with and now is a valuable member of the team. Might not see him but what he’s doing behind the scenes with sponsorships is crazy, big up Tom.
His Instagram is the sweetest
Yes!!! Tom is the man. He knows how to take a joke, he knows how to give it back, and he's super sweet and seems incredibly hard working. WTom😊
he joins in on the members streams on Thursdays! great guy :)
No, we see him♥️
He needs the Business Development Manager title for real
when it switched to ian i tapped my screen thinking my phone was going to turn off 😭😭
LMAO😭😂
Nate that H3 Show DVD logo bouncing around was PERFECT. Do it more!
Time stamp ? (I have never commented this before lol)
@@jaimemessenger2387 2:31:20
@@thenutpack7821 yes, but please don't blueball us, it needs to play until it hits the corner! Otherwise my day would be ruined
Nobody noticed the brutal burn at 1:05:40 when Ethan talked about little fingers and AB said “you’re the expert” 😂
The iconic AB "joke that goes under everyone's radar because he says it under his breath" Bit
@@PyroJiro This one was extra under the breath
I missed that 😂
So good
I came looking for this. Lololol
Hearing Zach's laugh get picked up by everyone else's mic makes me laugh so hard especially after Ethan's joke today lol
i thought it was funny too lmao i mean we cant just pretend it never happened
sorry to be that person but, time stamp?
@@marissam3268no idea
Yeah white people feel free to laugh at everyone else’s expense
@@marissam3268 2:08:04 it’s sad y’all think this is funny. You try being black & growing up in a time where every white kid is saying the n-word to you bc they heard it from H3. Y’all are weirdos
I just have to point out that Nate is killing it with adding these random additional screen things and transitions. The timing is somehow killing me
Ethan saying “let me hit this real quick” right before taking a drink of sodie lmao
1:33:20
Just a little something to take the edge off
Now he's hitting canned air 💀
1:31:42
“i only take it right on my shest” up for sound byte of the year fr
shest 💀💀💀
Ethan being savage "Cody Ko is at home like 'Phew! Thank God for Ava Kris Tyson, now I get a break'... No, we remember Cody." 🤣
Honestly though that’s what I am worried about. That the public will forget about his situation because of this.
@@Sci-Mon1the fact that you’re worried about internet drama says a lot about who you and the privileged position you hold😂✌️
@@ai_kv4775 it is summer vacation and I have nothing else going on so you’re not that far off.
And won't forget 🧐
@@ai_kv4775ironic considering your listening to this shit show
I cannot wait until Jojo and Ethan are sitting next to each other in blinged out construction jackets ✨THANK U ZACH 🤞🏼🤞🏼❤️
YESSS
imagine them doing her iconic dance in construction jackets
Joe;Joe
@@kaaarennnn, not sure if a 42, 43ish old person should shake their head this frantically...
Um no she is an awful person and does not deserve more publicity
I refuse to believe Ethan not understanding AB isn’t an intentional bit at this point 😂
It’s funny when he’s doing a bit, but even funnier when he genuinely just doesn’t understand
“Abu Rahman? That’s not your name.” 😂😂😂
@@izzaanimates9041 😭😂
I relate to ab so much, i feel that pain, I would be surprised if it's a bit now
please time stamp 🙏🏻
Love has quickly become my favourite cast member 😂 his jokes are slept on
Also his outspokenness on SA/victims is so empowering, I wish I could've heard what he said when I was a kid, the future generation is so lucky to have this crew to support them!! ❤🎉
Yeah Lolli should be shamed tbh. Idc about topical sensitivity on this one. Certain kinks, certain ones, should absolutely be shamed. Its gross.
I agree, lolli: to be attracted to drawn children, or adult that look like children and act like children is borderline pedophilic
It‘s also illegal here (Germany) and counts as cp. Is it not illegal in the US?
@@horsthorst11nope it’s not
Yes. Very shamed. I have been scorned by a man leaving me for a juuust 18 year old.
We were both 31
@@jayr9922 it is illegal, its just that they can always pull the "but in the lore theyre 100 years old!" card, its very difficult to give a verdict in court and in most cases where people get in trouble its because they also have real cp
Hate when the sun starts to go down in the background, it's just a reminder that the show's gonna be over soon. The background is my new timer of the show now.
Why have I not noticed this
Where is the background live from?
I think it's beautiful... reminds me of my old friend.. 🐦 🎶🎶
is it a real live feed?
@@Petunia1738 Yes (No 🤫)
Remember when dramagedon was once just about bad make up brands lol
The good old days
The golden age
We long for simpler times
"i guess i just miss my old friend...😔"
I thought dramagedon was because of James Charles???
Why there’s so many ppl being inappropriate with kids is it really that hard to not be a creep wtf
Seems like the power dynamic is too hard to resist for these guys.
I really don’t get it. Might be trendy amongst edgy people online.
I remember reading somewhere that p3d0s make up at LEAST 5% of the population... i hope it's not real, but honestly it's getting harder and harder to not believe.
Ava really set us back :/
Probably because most of the users online are children so it happens a lot without parents knowing
Because they get rich and when money is not giving you the kick anymore you go to some weird creepy shiet for that...
Whoever told Jimmie to say "Welcome to Chili's" gets me hahaha
STOP 😂🤣💀⚰
I didn't catch that originally so thank you for the laugh!
That was so cool! I also really liked the soundboard effects when discussing one of the most-watched child-entertainers in modern history. It's bad but it can still be funny, right? You people are beyond help. Also, all this info has been circulating for years, none of this is new. Strange no one talked about it until they realized it would hurt them to not cover it. But, yeah, Jimmie and Ethan are hilarious
@@schizophrenic_AI what
I literally had to cover my mouth because I scream-laughed, idk why it was so funny but I dieeeddd 🤣🤣
Watching Ethan slowly deterioate from "Well, lets hear Ava out.", to "Omg wtf did she say?!". Is all of us
SO HAPPY FOR TOM WARD AND THRILLED HE IS PART OF THE FAMILY!!!!!
Jojo is a James Charles AND Colleen defender…. Maybe a bridge we don’t need
exactly what i was thinking, unless they’re trying to guide her away from it. idk
Thank you!
I'm glad someone said something
Jojo is another p** protector!
And she does not care about who she steps on to get ahead.
she’s literally one of colleen’s best, longest friends. they go to each others family events
@@marianazzz1she started out as a Colleen fan didn't she? Whose to say she wasn't groomed in to being her friend just like the rest of em. Hopefully Jojo will educate herself on what her friends are being cancelled for one day and come round. Dance moms was fucked up, can def see where growing up through that would play a factor in thought processing and judgment skills. Child famous too. She's young, seems like a nice girl just uneducated/ignorant. Let's hope she learns to grow out of it one day bc it is icky to be friends with people like jc & cb.
@@marianazzz1she was also a child 😭
“Normal, good person” is now my clothing aesthetic
Same girl, SAME 😂
dan: why does boogie, the largest of the lolcows, not simply not eat the other two?
Idk.. I feel like the fact Ava is trans has nothing to do with anything ( I understand people online making horrible correlations about trans people) but at the end of the day, a 20 something year old even interacting with a 14 year old is very wrong, especially when you add in the fact their RUclips channel was huge at the time. If this was any normal person we would be calling them a complete creep? Let’s call it how it is please.
welcome to ethan's pod, he has a lot of sex pest friends
@@K14EI’m pretty surprised tbh, if this was James Charles we would be calling it how it is.. but they’re giving him the benefit of the doubt in a lot of ways… I’m not even halfway through though so my opinion could change
I wish more people saw it this way!
They called it how it was though and very clearly denounced it while also being mature enough to recognize their bias. I think they handled it well.
@@noealva yeah I will agree after watching the whole segment, they landed on the right take I think… just before that, they were kind of giving them the benefit of the doubt a lil bit, I know Ethan is just trying to not come across as transphobic and that’s obviously the way forward, but the person is clearly a total creep & I wish they woulda just said that from the beginning, like I’ve said in other posts, bring the same energy to Ava as we do for James Charles, that’s all!
I can't wait to see Ethan's outfit for the Poker Event. He always brings it!
I can't wait to see Ethan in that poker tournament... its gonna be so funny watching him try to bluff and get inside his opponents heads lmaooo
BRUTAL to be here without timestamps 😂
Just give Love a few minutes lol
I would post them but I fear dan will edit the episode and make them all zilly zonka'd
I feel you but love is so much faster than the average
@@miranda13cand he’s done ✅
There’s nothing like looking at those timestamps and seeing one bar WAY bigger than the others
Cuz you just know we're about to sink our teeth into something deliciously messy😂
A predator is a predator. Doesn’t matter how they identify. No excusing it. Crazy how many predators there are…
Exactly and it’s the ones we know about imagine how many there are who haven’t been caught yet.
@@angeldream1 it’s a terrifying thought! Like how many people are we around when we go out, that are predators.
I think RUclips just attracts them, unfortunately. It seems like there’s a lot in the influencer space specifically. I suppose the microcelebrity status must appeal to them. They have enough fame to influence kids and young people but not enough notoriety to the everyday public to be noticed or caught. It’s kinda wack, actually 😅
Are you guys going to ask jojo why she defended Colleen balenger?
She’s been asked before her excuse was basically well it never happened to me so it didn’t happen
Also maybe ask why she would touch herself and drink on stage with children there
If they are bringing up James Charles then how would they not also talk about Colleen? Assuming they don’t forget lol
I'll be honest I think we're all blinded by the meme status and we're forgetting that she says problematic shit other other sentence out of her mouth. I'd argue that Colleen did groom her in the same way as the other kids and that she's been exploited as a child star and that she's damaged. I think if she does come on the show it might turn into another drama I'd rather h3 not get into. Maybe I'm just being paranoid
@@allie_hart I'm sure her or her team will scope out the pod, so she probably won't even come on. Not for a live interview
I went to a meeting and came back to the livestream and all I hear is 'All I ever did was say the N word'. I'm African descent and I didn't know the context but reconnecting to the live to hear just that line was funny as hell. 💀
Did anyone ask you for your input Kita? Hush now.
@@TheyThem_andMbro what
Did anyone ask you for your input? Wtf?
Hush now white 13 year old boy
@@TheyThem_andM Yes, Ethan Klein, Hila's husband, and host of the H3 Podcast did. 🤣
Ian Please don’t leave us next! We need you on the show!!! 😭😭🙏❤️
Jojo performing Karmas a Bitch feat. Zach Louis on guitar for the pod would be otherworldly
I’m gonna say this. If an adult ever tells a kid to keep a secret from people in authority in his life, it is always grooming. Period end of sentence. “Don’t tell anyone” is just wrong.
All I need is the rhythm divine
“All i ever did was say the n word” made me audibly laugh 😂😂
laughing a lil too hard 🤨
What Ava did is 100% inappropriate. A relationship between a 13 year old and an adult online is ALWAYS inappropriate. Sexual or not, trans or not.
mr beast is a child entertainer. there were underage ppl ALL OVER the vids. u were mad back then, right?
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@@_marlene don’t worry, we have a team of expert explorers trying to locate your point! Should be done with the expedition in a few weeks.
Exactly my thoughts. It’s so weird they’re tiptoeing around this. Ethan said it’s because he doesn’t want to give into the transphobia regarding this situation. That’s like saying because James Charles is gay and being that gay people face discrimination that they wouldn’t go as hard on James…. But they did go hard on James so why the switch up with Ava… she’s a groomer.
@@_marlene you a dummy
Cody Ko? More like Cody Ko-operate With The Local Authorities
*nose exhales*
@@fishnamedgoat2103 Ava/Chris too
@@B1G_CHUNGUS_BUNGUS joke doesn’t really work with those names
@@fishnamedgoat2103 Ava-operate With The Local Authorities - Kris-operate works too.
yes it does. and I don't appreciate you protecting Ava by excluding her from this joke.
@@B1G_CHUNGUS_BUNGUSthe joke does NOT work with Ava/Chris at all. Come up with something original that actually does work if you're so upset by this.
This Ava situation is very much alike Colleen's. They both were inappropriate with underage fans.
Haven’t we all always thought Mr.beast had people in his basement at the very least? Or was that just me ? 😬
not just you 😅
@@cassbaker03 the eyes the smile the voice 😬it all gives me the heebeegeebees and I’ve never been wrong
Jimmy beast probably: "I just found 100 people in my basement!!!"
It’s okay. He’s paying them $1,000,000 to escape.
@@Username0467 one of them lol
Good few episodes, I’m glad that the break seems to have refreshed everyone!!
Engaged Dan is the queen!
Yes
trust that NO ONE is more disgusted and upset by the allegations against Ava Kris Tyson than the trans community. absolutely despicable shit.
I think yall are giving jimmy too much credit about what he knew and what he didn’t know. If he knew, which I think we’re all in agreement he did, that Ava, his best friend, was into loli, he should not have let Ava take any part in his content, where the majority of his audience are children. He essentially is allowing Ava to have access to his mostly child audience, knowing the kinds of things Ava is into. This might get me a lot of hate but I don’t care. We need to stop giving people like this the benefit of the doubt.
It’s interesting how people are so ready to ostracize jimmy but not Kris 🤡
@@Onroomoreroo figured it went without saying. Gotta be really thick to think otherwise
He had to have known she was into creepy stuff. There is a picture going around of Mr.beast in the background looking at the picture with the girl putting a gun in her mouth. It doesn't seem to be altered. She allegedly had more of that guys art hanging up
No you're completely right, I had a boyfriend when I was a teenager who was into weird hentai pr0n/l0li and ALL HIS FRIENDS were the same and it was no secret among them. If one guy is into it, there is NO WAY that their best friend and probably entire friend group is not at least very much aware, and even if not into it themselves, don't view it as a problem. Idk why people go so hard for Mr Beast like he is a saint beyond reproach, its very weird and tbh kinda dangerous. Its how people like Jimmy Saville happen. Putting celebrities on a pedestal and ignoring their problematic associations is a very bad idea.
Totally 100% agree, giving him way too much credit on this one.
9:30 Zach is literally out here role playing a killer stalking his victim. 😂
Nooooo JoJo is sooooo cringe. I really don’t want to see her platformed.
Isn’t she also just a terrible person?
I don't think you can possibly get a better picture than what Lena got with James Charles. It's physically impossible to get a better pic. Lena looked amazing.
Ethan smacking so loud while he eats his mouth noises echo through my brain into eternity
I love it lol
So gross, makes my skin crawl.
Ethan your joke was hilarious i cant believe you even needed a poll to prove it.. Stop holding back youre the last line of defense !!
The crews response was hard to watch. Zach is the only one with a sense of humor.
They're just worried about losing their jobs lol @@jary2988
@@jary2988so tired of them having to protect Ethan from deranged chatters
Where the woke meets the wall ✊🏼
@@purpleamber1 100+ comments on a podcast that you think fell of years ago is almost impressive. Who is rebar? Tell me it’s not the account with 4k subs I just found
If Tom Ward had been the one to bump into JoJo Siwa they would be on this episode in pink and black vying for a frenemies season 2 cohost position
😂😂😂😂😂
Olivia outting herself for using whippets in high school 🤣
I want “normal good person” on my tombstone.
Are we just forgetting that JoJo Siwa and her mom abused the girls from OMG Pop, supports Colleen Ballinger AND James Charles!?? It’s all cool now? 🤨
Definitely did forget tbh
Are we forgetting how Ethan gets people on the show? You think he wouldn’t ask about that?
It’s almost like if they get her on the show, they could ask her about that.
Wouldn’t you like to hear her explanations??
Ethan will go so easy on her
Does anyone else see that when Ethan talks, his mouth is so similar to Rick from Rick and Morty? The shape and the shape of the teeth! 😂
Im freakin deadd😂😂😂
Yes!!! I told my husband his teeth remind me of Rick and Morty and he said he didn’t see it so I thought I was crazy haha glad I’m not the only one.
Omg he totally has those little rounded teeth.
I cant unsee this now😂
LMAO
Last to talk to a minor wins $1,000,000
😭
Idk how Ian can sit in the dark like that. The way I would be napping through the work day lol 😂
Super important Critism, I miss when they used to order food and the crew would be so excited to eat
The "dad" meme was when you'd explain something to your friend and they'd reply "thanks dad" or "ok dad" if you reminded them of something 😂😂
Not Ethan saying “Hello Fr….Tushy”
The way I screamed thinking Jimmy really just got hit by that van 🤣
Objectively… the N-word joke was funny comedy is in fact live and well
read the comments before watching, i guess i have something to look forward to in the ep lmao
I missed the joke the first time and couldn't rewind cause I was driving 😭 what was the joke? Or timestamp it if possible
@@CrooksConway2:08:00 ish
2:07:56
ok it was funny LOL. as a black person who despises non-black ppl saying the nword, the whole joke is that saying the word is horrible but compared to sexualizing minors, its nothing lol. comedy is alive and well folks
Come on Tom with the sponsors!!!
As soon as I saw HelloTushy I was like damn go Tom go!!!
Just because someone transitioned doesn’t mean they aren’t as responsible as someone who didn’t. If you can hate on James Charles just minutes before. Give Ava that same energy please. It’s giving trying not to be cancelled and that’s not the energy to have towards p3d0s
Seriously tf
not defending her, but i haven’t seen anyone defend her actions because she’s trans. In fact, all i have seen is people being MORE vile and transphobic toward her.
agreed, the whole segment felt like ur gave ava so much grace. the constant “at the time…” to defend her actions was infuriating.
Idk why the shots where AB and Olivia are seen together giggling are always so wholesome
Do you remember the timestamps for them?? Legit forgot as soon I finished watching lmao😭
@@vanessarayes7591 from like 2:40 to 2:41 they're passing the canned oxygen back and forth laughing with each other its just nice to see them genuinely gigglin lol
also olivia saying "you ever done whippets in highschool" is so funny
Susssyyy
Hearing Ethan say there would be a bridge with Trisha if it were up to him… 💔 I know it’s a complicated dynamic bc of Hila and Moses but Ethan and Trish had such a good friendship, it’s sad that had to end. Even if Frenemies never came back, I would be stoked to hear that they made up and were besties again
When there was this discussion
@@daria76903:15:50
They were not good friends at all what the hell, he was basically her punching bag
While I know they aren’t defending Ava at all, I mean they are very clearly showing the nasty stuff she did. BUT it feels like they are really pulling their punches on the tone of it all because of their past bias and fearing making it transphobic. Idk, just feel like when they talk about other predators they have a far more aggressive tone and sometimes with even less evidence. There’s so much here and they seem so soft spoken about it. YOURE TALKING ABOUT A PRED.
I’m sorry but how are so many creators talking to children… is it that hard?
It definitely SEEMS like a lot but when it consider the sheer number of content creators there are the percentage is probably very very low.
That said, it’s probably higher than other industries because of the parasocial dynamic that is inherent in content creation.
I don't think we know the half of it. This type of thing was rife in the music scene as well during MySpace days/early social media and I NEVER see it talked about. Would love to see a big group of ex-emo/scene girls who were 14-17 in the mid-00s put in a room together and find out how many of them had inappropriate contact with an adult band member or someone adjacent like managers etc because I saw that happen first hand as well. Seems like it hasn't gotten much better with 'online celebrities'.
@@lucyjane3803talk to every teen girl that went to warped tour and 70% would tell you they had inappropriate interactions with band members 😂 especially the group BOTDF...
Appreciate the show criticizing Ava and holding her accountable while also being vocal about this being nothing to do with the trans community as a whole ☮️ and 🤍
Is that why he mentioned she's trans like 100 times? He literally started the segment saying, "hey guys I know ppl think trans are PDF files...." Lol
It was irritating because he obviously gave her much more benefit of the doubt because she's trans.
Because people ARE using this to justify transphobia so it’s very important to point that out and recognising that. It’s doesn’t take away from the conversation at all and is important to be aware of people being against trans people vs being against grooming.
@@Rainkavickit’s mostly because right winged twitter has taken this story and ran with it to prove their own biases that trans people are evil, so unfortunately now creators have to obviously differentiate between the situation vs the individuals identity so that no harm is sent towards the trans community for something they had no involvement in
@@Rainkavick it’s cause there’s a lot of people online that are like “you see!” When it comes to trans people especially attacking Ava for being trans and exhibiting inappropriate behavior instead of just the issue at hand. They wanted to make sure they weren’t supporting that rhetoric which is nice
43:00 I think it’s important to keep the same energy we had for Colleen and Cody.
Hopefully the poker tournament goes better than the soda tasting
Love is so effortlessly funny! Calling the guy with a $10mil net worth "Kinda Broke" 🤑 let's see your 108mil krona Love!
Love is always funny
Ethan is going so easy on Ava compared to others like James Charles and Colleen, just because she’s 🏳️⚧️. I understand that there are certain narratives that are negatively affecting the 🏳️⚧️ and 🏳️🌈 community right now, but the situation it is what it is. If she didn’t do this stuff, then we wouldn’t be able to talk about it. If Ava had never transitioned and this story came out, how would Ethan have covered it? Certainly not like this, by making excuses and downplaying her actions. He would have literally came for blood. I feel like you shouldn’t be biased when it comes to this stuff. No matter the race or gender etc, we must stand up against this behavior. Personally, I’m in my early 20s and I have literally NEVER chatted inappropriately to a minor. Guys, it’s NOT NORMAL!!! Geez.
Thank you, I felt like I was losing my mind. The bulk of information is damning.
I agree, I appreciate that in the beginning he clarified that this situation has nothing to do with Ava Kris bring trans. But then I also felt like it was being played down a bit in comparison to dr. Disrespect situation, colleen situation and even james charles situation.
What fucks me up about ava is she has a child just like those other young boys and my brain is going to dark places I hate this world 🤬
Oh Jesus Christ. Imagine being this person's kid and finding out the things he has said and done... That is so gd sad. I hope that kid is safe
"I'm trying to be as partial as I can about this." Yeah, we know...😒
Lmao. THANK YOU! I'm glad I'm not the only one who heard the irony in his slip up.
Ethan using a trackpad instead of a real mouse is such a weird choice to me and im sure it causes like 83% of the messups
tom’s arc to becoming an employee is amazing lmao
You went VEEEERY mildly on Ava just because she's trans. Trans people are like any other person, they're not above criticism. It's honestly weird that you are on the fence when it comes to condenming p word behavior from someone just because of being transgender.
I feel like as the information was being presented Ethan was realizing Ava’s behavior was unacceptable and more serious than he’d previously expected
sunnyv2's video doesn't deserve any apologies bc his criticisms of Ava's are completely different than what she actually did wrong. This is like me criticizing someone for being cringe, then after they get arrested robbing a bank pretending like I was right all along. No, those are two different issues 😂
While I thought Ethan and co were guilty of treating the Ava situation way softer than the Doc situation (which was almost identical or even LESS bad than the shit we saw Ava Chris do), I DO agree with you here.
The Sunny V2 video is irrelevant to this situation.
Ian's shot is so dark I was tricked into thinking my phone battery hit 5%
This was such a depressing show... Thank god that h3 dvd square hit the corner and made it all worth it
im just exhausted with all the sexual assault talks. like i get it, but like damn it’s so depressing when it’s every single episode ):
ngl the tom ward arc makes me so emotional like who wouldve thought🥺🥺🥺🩷
they would not be asking for context if those screeshots were for example Codys.
Ava’s messages are disgusting and I feel like they were going too easy on her. Her transness has nothing to do with her being a creep. While I understand the terrible transphobia that has come out of this discussion, she shouldn’t be given the benefit of the doubt because of it.
she didn't do anything wrong. she just did some things "sus". it is not the same as drdisrespect setting up hookups at twitchcon, where we know he DID hook up with women & cheat on his wife, with CHILDREN... & ADMITTING IT. Groomer panic is at a fever pitch and it's only here because of Republicans beating the drum about queer p3d0files. It is absolutely horrifying & sad that Ava is being destroyed because of this evil.
Yes yes yes. How are they talking about some evidence being edgy jokes. Tana never said she felt like a victim, yet they dedicated 6 eps about codyko. And now, its just edgy....i mean...a 13 yo when you are 20....
Love h3 but even Moist did a better video on Ava and didn’t mention Ava being trans which is what most people should do considering them being trans has nothing to do with any of this.
Tom ward has been popping off with the sponsorships recently
The JoJo glazin is craaazy😂
It’s weird they want her on
They dogged Miranda sings for doing the same thing but because she's trans, Ethan walks on eggshells? That's wild.
It's alt right to oppose pedophilia
Right, extremely weird and concerning.
Yep, very disappointing
Typical leftists, even dan fell victim. Very very dissapointing
Dude this story is so insane and you cracked down on Cody so hard. Please maybe stop covering this issue so much if you have biases! These victims were 13 and up in age. Was so hard to watch Ethan tip toe around this.
Someone in the comments pointed out that the name Ava is Lava without the L. Possibly Ava used that name after interacting with lava? I think it stands out and is important
Interesting observation.
This is VERY interesting!
I’m just high enough to HYSTERICALLY laugh at Zach wanting the dvd logo to hit the corner 😂
28:48 Ethan being excited for a bidet is so old school Ethan lmao 😂
love has the best takes
Would this be straight up problematic if Ava was a straight white male? Remember, he was a straight white male at this time. Just because transphobia exists doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be called out when a human is inappropriate! Being trans shouldn’t be a shield.
30% of this shows audience is transgender, it's why they have to be so delicate
@@drewshaffer2942 wait you're paying h3 despite being a hate watcher? That's wild lol
@@momerathsoutgabe-mt1gc it's called gifted memberships .. people gifted me like 20 - 30 months .. not going to complain about that!
@@momerathsoutgabe-mt1gc what? I’m not a hate watcher. Calling someone out on hypocrisy isn’t hate lol. It’s okay for all of us to hold each other accountable.
Also, supporting someone doesn’t mean I have to agree with every one of their opinions. I like to challenge myself to listen to people I agree with and disagree with, so that way I have more information to make up my own mind on what I think.
@@itsmeowornever2171 not you my dude, the person who either blocked me or deleted their comments. "DrewShaffer2942"
keep the same energy for the trans as you did for disrespect, kody, and james charles
Hate to say this but if ava/ chris never transitioned and was still seen as a conservative theyd be destroying him rn
I hope Tana is okay mentally. She's been through a lot ot bad stuff in her life, most of it in her very young life. 💕
I can see it in Tana's eyes in recent clips and vids that she wants to become a better person so bad, and that she gets very dissapointed in herself when she screws up and causes controversy for her. It doesnt matter what the topic or context of it is, there will always be people who will hate on her and try to "cancel" her.
She's still a young adult in her 20s trying to figure life out. I'm a 36 year old female and I don't even have life figured out yet, but I am wiser now and more experienced at life now than I was at 26(Tana's current age).
You can learn a whole heck of a lot in 10 years. Tana desperately wants to be the person she always wanted to be, herself. She was always trying to fit in and do whatever her friends or popular kids were doing when she was growing up, and it leaked over into social media when she got internet famous.
She's realizing as she's aging that she was stupid to follow everyone else, and now she's trying to be herself, but she still struggles with that, especially when she has a few drinks.
I wish her all the best. I truly do. Tana seems like such a kind, imaginative, and fun person under all the "pleasing" and "approval seeking" she craves. I blame her parents for that, specifically her father.
Good luck Tana. You can and will become the best you, to ever show the world and yourself. Life is about learning and experience with some fun and some bummers sprinkled in. Family, friends, people, animals, those are the things that truly matter most in life. If you are surrounded by people and animals who love you, support you, encourages you etc, nothing can EVER stop you from achieving your goals and dreams in life 💯. I know, I've seen it happen time and time again. I want this for Tana so so much, and I hope she achieves it in her life. ✌️💕✨️
This is a sUch a sweet take ❤️✨
Yes all of it! 🙌🫶
I agree. She's already matured so much and gained a lot of wisdom at what's still a young age. I have no doubt she will continue to level up and I absolutely love that for her
Chill with the parasocial
I fully wish all the best for Tana. That hotel room clip they played this ep when she was I think they said 17? Without the makeup and bleached hair she would have looked like an ACTUAL BABY. At that age I had left home and started university so was around people mostly older than me and it is a difficult dynamic being put in more adult situations when you are still a minor. Men who took advantage of her are scum, she was a child, there is no excuse. So I wish the best for her and the absolute worst for them ✨
Dan saying who cares that if jimmy knew Kris was a pedo groomer and still was friends and had him on the channel is fucking wild.
Something that frustrates me a lot with the Ava situation is that you KNOW if Ava were a right-winger or just a cis white man then these guys who are leading the charge against her would have NO issue with Ava's behavior. The double standard pisses me off so much.
Saying “cis” is offensive. It’s a slur to women.
You are a misogynist
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I got frustrated and exhausted by Ethan trying to give Ava Kris the benefit of the doubt. Being trans shouldn't be reason to he abused but it's also not a reason to excuse terrible behavior. If this was just any RUclipsr dude Ethan would've gone in from the start.
Yeah exactly…if it was a random cis man there wouldn’t people using this to justify transphobia and hate. But they ARE so it’s important to note that. Ethan wasn’t giving Ava any leeway or anything, he was just pointing out how (and why) right wing channels are covering this and how it’s harmful. So yeah, he’s being a bit more thorough and careful before calling someone a predator due to how others are using the situation.
I get what you’re saying completely, but I’m giving his seeming hypocrisy a pass because I think it comes from a place of good. He’s wary because the alt-right is soooo happy this happened because they can use it to gain support for the stereotype of the trans predator (which is a ‘monster under the bed’ that there’s no evidence for). So, yes, Ethan’s reaction here is so different to his reactions to like Cody Co etc etc, but I do genuinely think it comes from a place of good; he doesn’t want to feed the bigots. Yes he could have explained his ‘off’ reaction better, I think he should have begun with statistics and research about this stereotype and then differentiate this situation from it, and then he could have GONE IN on Ava if that makes sense? And also done a piece disproving the trans predator stereotype? Done two bits of good? But under the circumstances, I think his reaction is very human and understandable. He did call Ava out, he was just struggling internally with what I mentioned and I think that’s very valid. But I do see what you mean and get your frustration of course, I don’t think your frustration is invalid at all, I just see it differently
@@milarose275 agree with your take. Grooming is bad no matter who does it, h3 is just super carefull due to the groom3r being trans later in life. Thats it
LITERALLYYYY could you imagine if it was james Charles??? He would CRUCIFY him. Really annoyed me tbh makes them seem biased
@@B3epb3eplettuceEthan literally admitted his bias and explained where it comes from
47:38 i disagree entirely ... because if we are consistent that children under a certain age can't consent then it should be completely irrelevant if Lava feels Ava did something wrong or not. If an actual rape victim would say the same thing ....doesn't change anything about the rapist actions either
YES! Many victims of CSA or grooming feel special and close to their abuser. They may not realise till adulthood just how damaging the actions were.
It is up to other ADULTS to step in, protect children and condem the people doing this.
Children do not have the emotional maturity or understanding to either consent to these things or properly understand what is being done to them.
It is OUR responsibility to harshly punish anyone that takes advantage of that innocence
@@Catsandthebearbut isn’t lava an adult now saying they don’t see it that way still to this day? Genuinely confused
Y’all went soft af on Chris than literally anyone else lmao smh