Rocky IV: Rocky vs Drago - MOVIE REACTION (First time watching)
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There’s a movie analysis channel on RUclips (Patrick Willems) that “scientifically” determined this is the most 80s film ever made. 😄
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Accurate! LOL. I'd throw in Commando, Porky's, Revenge of the Nerds, and many of the 80's slasher films (Friday the 13th, Halloween, etc).
@@adamcollazo8228 None of those made the top 10. Top Gun was the runner up, as I recall. It’s a funny vid with a lot of actual thought put into it. Definitely worth watching if you have an hour to kill.
@@maxducoudray Really?! I'll check out the video.
@@maxducoudray IDK, I'd vote for "Raiders", "Back to the Future" and "Ghostbusters" as quintessential 80's films.
lol. "There was no training montage. You can't win without a training montage." I love it.
Team America taught us all. 😝
Hell, Rocky needed THREE montages just to beat Drago. Apollo never stood a chance.
@@tehdesp A montage of montages. 😝 😝
how very true in this case
Nice choice on the director's cut. I never saw this one, and I felt it really accentuated Rocky's friendship with Apollo, which was a bit glossed over in the theatrical cut. The funeral scene had me in tears. Really, really enjoyed. I've seen this movie several-dozen times, but never this version. Thanks for doing this one!
The funeral scene gets me every time in this one.
"You can't fight without a training montage." Words to live by. I wish Carl Weathers had left more serious work behind, as about all I can recall from him is Predator, Action Jackson, and a few episodes of a show called Fortune Dane. Incidentally, I love the Survivor song "With a Burning Heart" that plays as Rocky comes off the plane -- its lyrics set up the feeling of the time: "Two worlds collide, rival nations/ It's a primitive clash venting years of frustrations" -- but they left out another great Survivor song, "A Man Against the World." It's worth looking up someday.
His role as "himself" on Arrested Development was AMAZING! He showed in that and Happy Gilmore that he had range in comedy. Didn't get enough of him for sure. Oh yeah and he was in The Mandalorian!
The Director's Cut really feels like a completely different film. There is so much more serious and on the nose dialogue. I guess that's the point. Thanks for reacting to it, bc I would have never known about it otherwise. I miss the montages and the robot tho. Lol
Rocky gets to properly grieve Apollo in this version.
Spot on. Thank you...
The robot is gone but the montages are still there.
@@JonathanDeckerGood to know that cuz the montages are so iconic the film wouldn’t be the same at all if they had just been cut out and they’re so important to the movie
42:30 In Rocky IV, "just another bum from the neighborhood" single-handedly takes down the Soviet Union and ends the Cold War. (Even Rambo couldn't do that!)
Dolph Lungren that played Drago is a martial artist in real life and competed he is also in the Expendable movies and Creed 2 with Sly.Dolph has one beautiful daughter and Sly has three.
Ah intersting. This is the first time I see someone reacting to this version of Rocky 4.
Not sure if someone mentioned this already but you might want to check out the Theatrical Version of this film as well, just to say that you've seen both. This version certainly "hits" differently. I'm enjoying your reactions as always. Good job Bunny!
Carl Weathers made a very short and quick appearance in the movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind. One of his very early movies.
24:56 they put vasaline over the areas most likely to "split"... So around the eyes and on the cheekbones.
This movie was made during the cold war with Russia in the 1980"s.
The theatrical version of this is less serious but still very entertaining. Rambo: First Blood Part 2 was released the same year as this. Other Cold War era films to watch include Red Dawn and Red Heat
25:27 This is such an emotional line from Paulie.
Born in 1957, I grew up with the threat of nuclear war. My father was an office chief in the Atomic Energy Commission, so I always had an ominous sense of the Cold War going hot. Yeah, we had under the desk drills in school and there were "fallout shelter" signs all over the place. Bottom line, I always knew none of that would really work. Nukes are not explosives by another name.
I am going to translate what our Bunnytails has just said in the intro into Marine Drill Seargent English. "Listen up you magots, I am going to watch the directors anyone who wants to call home and cry to his or her mama about it can feel free to do so after you drop and give me 20 push ups, 50 sit ups, and drinks enough laxatives to get rid of all that crap your full of. You signed up to watch this because you know you love this girl and the way she wears her heart on her sleeve right here in front of God and everybody to show us there is still good in the world. Now sit back and I know you are going to enjoy this. I can't hear you.
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Suggestion: Always know the year and historical context of a movie before reacting. This was 1984, a very important year in the Cold War. This is the context in which the movie would be seen by the original audience. They would see the patriotic cover of it all, even with Rocky’s little speech at the end.
* 1985. Sorry
If you liked him in a beard you should see his 1981 movie called Nighthawks that was a good movie I highly recommend it hopefully you can react to that it has to do with terrorism and the bad guy in that movie is called Rutger Hauer I hope you give it a chance😊😊😊😊
Rutger Hauer was in Blade Runner! You're telling me there is a movie with both him AND Stallone!? Wait. AND BILLY DEE WILLIAMS!? Okay, I'm adding it to my list.
@@bunnytailsREACTS I'm so glad hope to see it on your channel soon 🙂🙂👍👍🖖🖖
@@bunnytailsREACTS oh and you made an old man very happy I saw this movie back in 1981 when I was 18 and I have to say I do love your Star Trek reactions I haven't missed one yet
@@JOSEMunoz-tc5rq I’m happy to hear it!!
Stallone told Lundgren to make it real, Stallone spent 4 days in the hospital with a burst pericardium 😊
13 days
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"i woke up in a hospital bed surrounded by 4 nuns and I thought oh here I go!" -Sylvester Stallone
It isn't true, he was in Hospital yes, but it was because his Heart was having issues from his Steroid use.
@@65cj55You're sure?
Creed's death hits different now. I met him at a Star Wars convention last year, and he was super nice. 🥰
Carl Weathers really loved being part of the Star Wars universe.
Thanks for sharing that. I wish I could have had the opportunity to of met him. How was his handshake?
I have been waiting for someone to do this as ROCKY'S fan number one of rocky i see all reactions and no one watches the directors cut!! Thanks!!
@@LordPankaiWalker I, too, prefer this cut. It provides so much more depth to Apollo and his relationship with Rocky. The funeral scene, in particular, is so much better in this cut compared to the original cut.
@@milesjergens9088 thats exactly how I felt when i watched it on theater, also Rocky seems more calmly debastated and his speech at the end is better also, its better in a lot of ways but i agree with you the funeral scene is way way better
1985 deep into the Reagan Administration and the USSR as an imminent threat. As a kid in 5th grade, global thermonuclear war was a real possibility to my reality. Reagan saw a made for television film that is still the highest watched movie in television history called The Day After, and apparently, it scared the shit out of him. Completely changed his idea because previously thought there was a winnable scenario in an all-out nuclear war.
For a boxing novice, you perfectly deduced what the gel is for. To help the punches slide off the face.
Great reaction.
The Day After still holds up to this day. Brutal.
Reagan never wanted nuclear war. The idea that Reagan wanted any war with USSR is Leftist propagandist BS. Fear of the Soviets wanting nuclear was always foremost in his and everyone's mind. The Day After scenario was unrealistic, but the basic idea that resonated was that " Nuclear War sucks." That was the message of the movie, and no one disagreed with it then or now.
In hindsight, no.. None of these things were on the table
I love how Reagan loved this movie lmao "well i like it, he beat the russian."
Sylvester Stallone once said in an interview that he regrets killing off Apollo. I agree.
It's one of the most powerful movie moments of all time. I wouldn't have it any other way. It makes the movie better, and definitely makes the Creed movies better.
@@jkhoover having apollo mad at him like donny was in creed 2 only to show up in russia in a wheel chair to support rocky with adrian would have been powerful too. Some one on youtube made an animation of it
@@AJCANADAPICTURES But that's Adrian's story. It would be redundant for Apollo to be there too, and there's very little reason for Rocky to fight if Apollo lived. I stand by my first comment.
@@AJCANADAPICTURESBut then a big part of Donny’s story is that he actually met his father, I don’t think the films would have had the same impact if he was still alive as cool as that would have been
And at the same time Apollos death shows the cruel reality of how dangerous this sport can be
This was a very different vibe than the theatrical. I suppose both have their place. That scene where Rocky is on the mountaintop and screams DRAGO! I always thought was so badass and gives me chills.
I love that we get more context to some of the scenes and makes it a bit more in line with the other films
Don’t get me wrong I still love the theatrical version, it’s one of the best 80’s movies but I do appreciate that Stallone made this version different and had it line up more tone wise with the rest of the franchise
14:38 Adrian saying "You can't win!!" always puts a lump in my throat. Adrian has always been the centre of Rocky's heart and if SHE doesn't believe in Rocky, then he's already lost the fight.
Yeah, that one stings a lot! As long as Adrian believed in Rocky, he believed in himself.
If he dies, he dies.
tbf it also pained Adrian to say that but she thinks its what he needed to hear.
i think if Adrian didnt follow in russia, Rocky wouldve lost. Rocky needed 2 training montages to beat Drago.
I was one of the Soviet Boxing Fans. This fight scene was filmed in Vancouver in 1985, so it was set on December 25 1984.
There was a real threat of a nuclear warb between the US and The Soviet Union at this time.
Anyways, this sequence took a week to film. There were thousands of us in the Agrodome. The vast majority of us weren't paid. An arrangement was made with the union to donate our wages to charities in Vancouver.
We were fed Churches Chicken for lunch and all the Pepsi we could drink. One day we had Ice Cream!
The speech at the end was improvised by Sly, and those were real tears we were shedding.
that sounds like alot of fun. did the filming staff instruct you people when to cheer or when to boo? specially considering the soviet fans were supposed to boo Rocky until the 12th round. And how was the fight choreography during filming? Like did it get boring when they had to retake shots over and over of Rocky getting hit? or did the fight scene filming went fast paced at some point (Sly mentioned he filmed a round where it was real, because he got inspired by Hagler-Hearns, and thats how he got punched in the chest that sent him to the hospital)
That is SO COOL!
I also loved Carl Weathers in Action Jackson, the '90s TV series Street Justice, Happy Gilmore, and Star Wars: The Mandalorian🤗
He will be deeply missed😔
he also taught a really good acting class down at the local Burger King
Relations between the USA and Russia were kind of ROCKY in the 80's 🙂
What as opposed to today where everything is rosey
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Good one. Lol.
I was joint venture fishing In the North Pacific, with the Russian and Polish fleets, when this movie came out. We caught the fish and delivered it to the Russian and communist Polish motherships. Hundreds of TONs per day. American waters, so they could not catch them, themselves. We traded cartons of cigarettes, blue jeans, and gallons of ice-cream for loaves of fresh baked dark bread, wolf fur hats. (I still have a down parka, the hood lined with a wolverine fur pelt.) I loved those guys in 1984 to 1987. They would invite us over for very supervised visits. By 1985 it truly felt like the Cold War was ending, at least to me.
I love your reactions, great outros, stay to the end everyone, or you are missing out!
Cold war tensions were high back then. The Soviet Union banned the theatrical version of Rocky 4.
*BEHIND THE SCENES FYI:*
Sylvester Stallone insisted on going 3 rounds of real boxing to get some good movie footage. Dolph Lundgren was concerned and tried to talk Stallone out of it. Stallone wouldn't budge so they boxed 3 rounds for real.
Sylvester Stallone is a brave man. Dolph Lundgren is a powerful man. After the 3 rounds, Stallone knew he had been seriously hurt. He went to the hospital that night. The doctors asked if Stallone was in a vehicle accident with a truck. They said they had only seen this sort of injury from a truck accident.
Lundgren had smashed Stallone's ribs so hard into his chest it bruised Stallone's heart. Stallone had to spend 13 days in the hospital.
The movie studio insurance felt the doctors were correct and Stallone was trying to cover up a truck accident on set. They refused to pay the hospital bills. They also took Stallone to court to sue for the alleged truck accident cover up. Stallone brought the 3 round footage to court as his defense. The insurance lost, the cover up claim was dropped, and the hospital bills were paid.
Wow, thanks for sharing those details!
Dolph Lundgren is also a member of MENSA or was anyway. Brains and Brawn.
I'm more impressed with Stallone's improved overall writing, including for Talia. Carl's great job portraying a fighter seeking a return to glory.
He did a great job with the original cuz it while it’s not my fave, it’s a really good 80’s movie but I love that this version is more in line with the other films tone wise and adds alot more context to scenes that I didn’t even think about but now it’s here I really like it
Especially seeing his interaction with Adrian before he leaves, everything overall just adds so much more emotion and depth
Carl Weather's played 2 years in the NFL with the Oakland Raiders and 3 years in the CFL with the BC Lions,nice touch with him with the football,also you have a bunch of cut scenes I have never seen in a reaction or on tv
This is the director's cut. It came out in 2021.
Now you must watch the version with paulie's robot it's the law for rocky 4 fans 😜😎😂
15:44 You could watch The Mandalorian. Carl Weathers is in that show.
You are the first reactor I’ve seen react to this cut of Rocky 4, having seen both versions I personally like this version better.
But Paulie's robot!!!w --- But seriously: i liked this film (that is, the original cut) more as a younger person ... and i still really like some aspects. But i can look at this now and realize that Rocky IV is more a piece of (very jingoistic) American propaganda than a necessary progression for Rocky himself ... which is not a good thing. ---
My feeling:
1) Paulie's robot is the best.
2) Stallone directed this. Which means the original cut IS the director's cut!!
It's not like anyone was standing in his way in '85 or saying "you can't do what you want to do". This "director's cut" being reacted to in Bunny-chan's video is just a significantly altered cut made by the same director who made the first cut, albeit 35 years later ... and its primary characteristic is that he removed a ton of the original film. It's hard to not dislike that. i don't think a director - any director - should get to significantly change a film, in a completely different time and culture with 35 years of hindsight (!!!), and then dismiss the original.
The original cut was a product of its time; that robot was pure 80s, and is charming for that reason. [Apparently Stallone's primary reason for scrapping it was that he didn't want to pay royalties to the robot's creator and voice ... which is a pretty crappy, non-artistic reason for removing a charming bit of levity.]
He also removed a significant amount of footage and focus from Drago's wife (Brigitte Nielsen), precisely because she's now Stallone's ex-wife. Their marriage was brief and ended bitterly ... i get why he doesn't feel warm about her now, but come on. That's a really petty reason to half-remove her Russian character from the film, 35 years later. ---
And it changes the story! The fact that Drago basically never spoke in the original film until meeting Apollo in the ring, and always had others speaking for him, added a scary and compelling inhuman quality to him. Seeing him speak quite a bit now in this one from the start ... eehhh. Revisionism is a sketchy thing when it comes to art. ---
In any case, it doesn't matter. "III" is probably my fave of the series, with a really relatable message about believing in yourself, and brotherhood. II is super-relatable too; Rocky is the every-man and underdog. VI (Balboa) is also pretty good. But i don't really like fighting ... peace and love is the way. Not everything needs to be deep; Rocky wanted to avenge Apollo. OK. But the underlying political message in IV of "rah rah Reagan's America" and "boo evil USSR" is over the top, simplistic and somewhat sinister. It sours an otherwise moving David vs Goliath story. Just my opinion ... i'm Japanese so maybe i'm not a good judge of boxing ww
Dolph is actually a real life killin machine, hes trained in martial arts his whole life, the story about his house being broken into is the perfect example of who he is. he also has a PHD in rocket science kinda stuff, chemical engineering I think. Guys a legend.
i interviewed him a few years ago. He's also really humble, funny, self-deprecating, totally down-to-earth and a true gent.
The story about his house being broken into has been wildly exagerated.
@@ToniMcGinty It's almost always the people playing the scary/intimidating characters that are the nicest.
@@ZeroDividedByZero Absolutely. I've met a few and it's always the case. Robert Englund is an absolute sweetheart of a man. A friend of mine has written two books about actors who usually play action and horror villains, and he's not met a bad one yet. And he's met loads. The only couple of people he's mentioned who aren't nice are usually heroes. I've met one particular hero who I won't name, and he wasn't nice at all. Other heroes, such as Sigourney Weaver, Hugh Jackman or George Takei...wonderful people.
To keep it real, there is absolutely no way that Rocky would have beaten Drago in real life. But it does make for a helluva movie 😄
I'm sure someone's mentioned it before, but Burt Young, the actor who played Paulie, just passed in October.
I didn't know!😢
Getting a boxer "in the clinch" = A defense strategy.
A boxer in trouble will simply grab the opponent around the arms, thereby preventing more punches. The referee will then break up the clinch by separating the two boxers.
When this movie was released, the Soviet Union existed yet, in the final years of the "Cold War", between USA and them. And the tensions in these final years were so hard.
Nowhere near as bad as the tensions are now, with the U.S. courting a third world war since 2014 at least, when the Obama administration used neo-Nazis and Georgian snipers to overthrow Ukraine's democratically-elected government.
In my opinion this is an amazing movie but there’s something about the original that just makes it more tense even that last speech Rocky gave in the original hit harder :)
Bunny, remember in Rocky III Rocky fought the big wrestler for charity? That was an exhibition match. It's not supposed to be a serious match. No one is fighting for title belt championship. -OG
Apollo's and Rocky's first fight was supposed to be an exhibition too. Apollo was wearing his patriotic get-up in the first Rocky fight and against Drago. He did not take them seriously both times - but his opponents did.
@hippusmaximus9319 Yeah, that's right! Almost forgot about that. -OG
Now that you've seen James Brown's Living in America you owe it to yourself to see Weird Al's parody version Living With A Hernia.
It's brilliant musically and as a visual parody.
Haha I’ve not heard of that one
Jackson Hole, Wyoming stood in for Russia. That's where they actually were during the whole training montage and mountain climbing scene.
Back then the Soviet Union would not allow any American movies to be made in their country, especially a movie like Rocky IV with its themes.
However, just a few years later in 1987 the cold war was already beginning to thaw. Stallone's cinematic rival, Arnold Schwarzenegger was actually allowed to come and film part of a movie in the USSR. The entire first act of the movie Red Heat takes place in actual Russia. It was a really big deal at the time they let an American film crew come film there.
I think the theatrical cut should have gone first to get a better appreciation for this cut. Some things are done better in the theatrical, some better here, so the best version would be some combination of the two. But I'm happy either way and am now hitting play. 🐰
I wish my brother could have lived to see this version. Rocky 4 was his favorite and would have eaten it up. I never knew how good an impression of Drago's manager he did until out cousin's wedding reception where he was doing his monologues and then random conversations with perfect Russian tones and inflections. Everyone was rolling.
Love the reaction Bunny that was beautiful keep up the fantastic work ❤
Thank you!
Somebody didn't grow up during the Cold War.
I didn't grow up during World War 2 but I have heard about it.
What do they teach them about in school? 🤔
Sorry
@@bunnytailsREACTS my bad. I'm sorry. I was just shocked that you had no idea about that.
@@bunnytailsREACTS Now don't be sorry. You don't have any control over that. Rocky V is all about the Cold War. The whole context is the Cold War.
Whatever your reason for watching the directorship cut, you should definitely go back and watch the original theatrical cut. -OG
For sure 😁
@@bunnytailsREACTS * Director's Cut. Not directorship. Hate autocorrect. -OG
Drago is taking steroids. Illegal to use competing in any sport. -OG
nope lol;)
Stallone said that in hindsight he wouldnt have had Apollo die, that it would have been more interesting to keep him alive, but have him wheelchair bound. That way Apollo would be deprived of his physical nature and have to grow and change intellectually and spiritually. And of course he would have still been around for those CREED movies. As it stands he thinks killing him was something of a waste, and I can't help but agree.
This entire movie was *meant* to be political. If you think tensions between the U.S. and Russia are bad now, it's nothing compared to the Cold War. You said you don't believe in booing someone unless they're a really bad guy, but back then, the U.S.S.R. was the ultimate "bad guy". Stallone couldn't have made this movie *without* making it political. It would have been like making the Star Wars movies without the Empire.
By the way, Drago yelling at the government officials the way he did? You do **not** get away with that in Russia; not then, not now. There were consequences for him, and we see what they are in "Creed II". Can't wait for you to get to it.
It was incredibly sad news to learn of the passing of Carl Weathers that day. Such an amazing actor. For my tribute to him I decided to watch Rocky III just because of that closing scene of Apollo and Rocky in the ring and that still image that transitioned and was immortalised as the painting.
In 1985 the US was topping the USSR. In 2024 Russia is levitating above the US wayyy up
Great reaction at least you’re trying to understand the past she better than most people today. Yes I know it’s hard to believe but back then Movies meant something Movie had no real news so when they saw the TV shows coming through secretly that we’re on TV that then night writer, Airwolf, but super technological planes and helicopters. They believe we had the stuff it scared them, and when Rocky came out with the heart of the Cold War, Mrs were pointed at each other with the two great superpowers of the world and destroy each other but he decided to use his platform to try to help the world and he did he also know the character called Rambo, which was a cult Fire ultimate warrior, the American people between Rocky and Rambo people saw that, and they thought that were all sold for like in America. Shortly after this, Russia had a new leader he was a man of peace. He wanted to do the change for his country. They were starving. They had no money no food he thought he can make it the world better place and Reagan and Coach got together, and they made a new world together. They made real peace, in our time Christmas day is always an important day historically in World War I there was a great battle of war were dying by the millions and then on Christmas Day it was a truce for some reason they dropped the weapons they help each other out. They gave each other food play games shared letters with the families for that day one day of peace Christmas truce so important I’m going to bed Rocky had to do with the end of the Cold War 25th. I’m not positive but I bet it is Very popular on both sides of the world even then sometimes they saw the first time Russian people see American American TV they saw with their missing and they wanted it and they got it and now Putin is in charge. He’s gonna take them back to the old days that’s what we’re going backwards, there are two more Rocky films in the franchise 5 6 is called Rocky Balboa now four is the best but five is good too. They’re all good I like five because it has his real sun playing son in the movie after the Rocky movies Creed movies about Apollo Creed lost son and Rocky train him to the next champion, thanks for the fun until next time
It’s nice to see a reaction to the directors cut.
I went and seen Rocky III back in 1982 with my uncle then I seen Rocky IV in 1985 November I was 10 then Rocky V in 1990 I was 16 then Rocky Balboa 2006 I was 32 I grew up watching these films they are the best Stallone is a great actor director and writer ❤
This was a *Cold War Movie* this was a little diplomacy people behind the Iron curtain get their hand on American Music & Media
The loss of *Creed* was sudden that's how most death in life happens *#RIP** Carl Weathers*
For the love of God, please skip 5 and go to the masterpiece
After "Rocky 2" (1979) - young Stallone wore a full beard and mustache in "Nighthawks" (1981) - THEE MOST UNDERRATED COP MOVIE OF ALL TIME!! New York Cop Deke DaSilva (Stallone) fights international terrorism in America 20 years before 9-11-2001! Please react to it!
At the time, Russia (USSR) and the US were opposed, in a nuclear stand-off. All political. Prior, the USSR was seen as a farm laboring country and the US was technologically advanced. This movie flipped the image, shows wholesome farm methods versus the ability to selectively train a single muscle. Plus, Rocky's high altitude training changed his red blood cell count to allow for more oxygen-carrying ability.
As usual, I so appreciate your emotionality.
For a more comedic take on the pressures of the Cold War era I recommend the movie Spies Like Us, featuring Chevy Chase and Dan Aykroyd. I really think you'd enjoy it! 😄
Apollo dies and Drago lives on in gaming communities. Every gamer utters the line "if he dies he dies"
"I must break you"
In gaming lobbies lol
I'm glad you watched this version. As much as I love the theatrical cut, I honestly think the director's cut is a better movie. It's tone is more consistent with the previous movies a little more. Certain scenes hit a little harder. Like the funeral scene. Stallone's performances was so much better in this version.
Yes the funeral scenes should have remained in the theatrical one .
Thak you for exposing me to the director’s cut. I think some important thematic scenes were skipped out from the theatrical release.
As a kid growing up in the 70's and 80's, the threat of the Soviet Union, nuclear war or Communism taking over the world was a real fear felt by many Americans. This film came out in the backdrop of that era.
Boy I hate this version, I'm glad they edited out unnecessary scenes
Now, pretend Rocky V (1990) was never made and just skip on over to Rocky Balboa (2006) which is the sixth movie. LOL!
Awwwww...it wasn't THAT bad!!!
15:51 If you want a great recommendation for another Carl Weathers film, watch ACTION JACKSON 1988. Trust me when I say, it might not have been the biggest action film at the time, but if you loved him here and in Predator, you will love Action Jackson. RIP Carl Weathers.
Would the Rocky franchise be as successful if he were not white? Only in the movies can we have a white heavyweight champion....until the Ukrainian Vladimir Klipschko of a few years ago.
And Tyson Fury.
Beat Apollo line: "You put that heavy bag w/ eyeballs in the ring w/ me and you're gonna see the meaning of pain!"
Carl Weathers was also in Happy Gilmore (RIP Carl, you were a legend) def check that out. Hilarious movie 😆
Hey Bunny. He probably grew that beard overnight, being he is Italian.
If you would like to see him in another movie with a beard, watch "Nighthawks". Also starring Billy Dee Williams.
RIP Carl. I miss you man.
His beard game in NIGHTHAWKS is truly elite. He should have rocked that look a lot more often.
Ok Bunny fair enough, you didn't learn about it in school, then you have a little bit of homework for the subject of USA USSR.
Communism, the end of the second world war, the space race, the Korean War, the Vietnam War and USSR invading Afghanistan in 1980. If you want extra credit, learn about "the iron curtain", "Warsaw Pact" , the Soviet Block and the Berlin Wall. 🧱
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Oh, I forgot about the Cuban missile crisis.
What happened Bunny, I was not born yet but I have heard about it. It was the 1960s JFK was the President and the Soviet Union was upset with the USA about the missiles in Europe that were near the USSR. So they, the USSR put some of their missiles nearby the USA in Communist Cuba.
President Kennedy demanded that the Soviets removed the missiles from Cuba and threatened to attack the USSR.
That was the Cuban missile crisis.
How did it end?
Well if the Soviets didn't back down we wouldn't be here. 😮
I love seeing people react to this new cut because it's so different from the cut I saw in theaters in 1985 - thumbs up! This cut is more similar in tone to the rest of the series. The original cut is very much a product of the 80's and milks the geopolitical tension of the Cold War. I mean, practically a third of the original running time is montage/music video AND there is also a gratuitous robot. Just weird, but we enjoyed it at the time.
There's a sports mockumentary short on RUclips about how Rocky ended the cold war.
There were 2 that I saved, 1 was funny and the other was done seriously ala 30 for 30 or HBO 24/7.
1 of them is gone though last I looked in my favorites.
There was always something very genuine about Carl Weathers. No matter what he said to Rocky as Apollo Creed, I always felt Weathers was a good guy beneath the acting.
All these years i had no idea there was a directors cut. That was quite different. Had to keep rewinding to switch between watching the new stuff and seeing your reaction to it. Thank you
I know right. This is the first time iv seen the unedited version of this and iv watched this movie so many times. Crazy
I'm pretty sure this was a project that Stallone took on during covidd lockdowns. I watched a behind the scenes YT video of Stallone editing together a new directors cut version of the movie. I think he wanted to completely remove the robot and make the tone more serious. So, as far as I know, the directors cut is very new.
The best movie in the franchise by far including all the Creed movies. This movie is a cult classic and it is the most successful and memorable movie without this movie there will be no Creed movies It is too bad you watch the the director cut and not the original movie (I don't like the changes they made in the director cut. You missed the funny robot part) . I love the Montage in this movie Hearts On Fire, Fun facts: During the filming of this movie Stallone asked Dolph to really spar with him. Stallone ended up in the hospital cause Dolph punch him so hard he moved his heart . Another fun fact Brigitte Nielsen the actress who plays Drago wife was the real life girlfriend of Stallone during the time of the filming. :) . You should see Dolph Languren movies like The Punisher 1989, Universal Solider, Showdown In Little Tokyo , I Come In Peace and playing Heman in Masters Of The Universe". This movie was in the 80's at the highest of the tension between Usa and Russia. It is a great movie that was very poplar at the time. It is a cult classic. that I think carried the Rocky franchise to the 2000's. People don't understand that today When I think Of Rocky I think of this movie not the other 4 movies (Not even the first one). They are all good movies but they are not as epic as this one. I think that without this movie the Rocky franchise would have being forgotten epically because how Rocky 5 sucked, This is the peak of the Rocky franchise where it got really big mass appeal (which started in Rocky 3 with Mr T). You should think of it as the first Avengers movie where the other movies build up to it.
I'm from CA too. The mountains and snow are not too far away in much of the state. The high deserts get snow also.
I wish Carl Weathers had been cast in more comedies. The guy can bring it. Happy Gilmore for the win.
The Comebacks.
Also Arrested Development.
The vasoline on the face adds a barrier to delay abrassions to the thinner skin of the face from the friction of the gloves impact.
Hi Bunny. 😀
Funny thing that you mentioned Guile from Street Fighter because in the live action movie he was played by Jean Claude Van Damme and he was in Universal Soldier with Dolph Lundgren.
But no, Guile is not tall. At least not in the movie. 🎥
Oh and U.S.A. and Russia in the 1980s.
Um.. first thing is that Russia was in the Soviet Union and the other thing is the "Cold War" and the nuclear arms race. You should really learn about that.
Otherwise you will not appreciate that Superman destroyed the weapons and saved the world.
Oh yeah, that's only a movie, but you can see why you need to learn about the history then.
That's why Rocky IV is considered the quintessential '80s movie.
An exhibition is kind of a glorified sparring match. There are no winners or losers, fighters wear larger boxing gloves and in most cases safety gear, rounds are shorter and there are no judges (not needed as stated earlier, no winners are declared).
As a GenX kid, the cold war was part of our lives in the 80s. Reagan vs. Gorbachev on the news. Around this time, many movies with a cold war theme were released: "War Games" (1983), "The Right Stuff" (1983), "Red Dawn" (1984), "Gotcha" (1985), "Spies Like Us" (1985), "Rocky IV" (1985), "Top Gun" (1986), Clint Eastwood's "Heartbreak Ridge" (1986), "The Manhattan Project" (1986), The James Bond movie "The Living Daylights" (1987), "Rambo III" (1988), "Little Nikita" (1988), "The Hunt for Red October" (1990), "Crimson Tide" (1995) though set during the cold war. Then, you have real life events like the Olympic Games where we watched and kept medal counts between us and the USSR. "The Miracle" (2004) is a movie based off of Olympic hockey in 1980. Us pre-teen to early teenage boys were always fighting and beating the commies while playing, whether it was beating them at the basketball hoop with last-second shots, winning make believe races on our bikes, or battling G.I. Joe figurines. Go Joe! Different times for sure.
Another good Eastwood Cold War flick was "Firefox (1982)". Very dramatic about what everyday Russians endured. On that count a really good spy romance was "The Russia House (1990)" with Sean Connery and Michelle Pfeiffer. Really good depiction of both sides.
@@johnbuchanon7717 I was just about to post a response about "Firefox (1982)" I read the book after watching the movie because I thought the movie and the plane was badass. But to the OP, yes these were definitely the movies that shaped and defined the '80s as well as my generation (GenX/Xennial). I remember the tension at the time, the constant threat of mutual nuclear annihilation. Everything the two above me stated was true. I was 12 when the Soviet Union fell, 10 when the Berlin wall fell in '89. What a time to live through.
Great reaction Bunny. I was a teen when this film came out and the Cold War themes were intentional and obvious in 1985. The Soviet Union and the entire Eastern Bloc was viewed as this dark, ominous, dangerous "enemy" that could wipe America of the face of the Earth with their vast nuclear weapons stockpile. As for the injection that Drago received it's implied that it was steroids. It later came out that the Soviet Union and East Germany and other communist countries employed state sponsored doping programs for their elite athletes. These governments literally gave their athletes tons of drugs sometimes without the athletes knowing nor with their consent. In track and field there are many women's world records set in the 1980's that still stand today. The female track athletes today cannot approach these world records.
I've seen the theatrical release many, many times but I have never seen the director's cut. It was a bit jarring to see some of the changes as IMO it changes the tone of the story a bit.
Thanks for doing the director's cut. I haven't seen any other reactors do the director's cut.
You’re welcome 😁
Drago's trainer was actually from Ohio. Michael Pataki. But he often played Russians in movies and television.
I'm a bit late, but your reaction just popped today in my suggestions, but I'll try to answer 2 of your questions fast: yes, steroids are given by injections. And in 1985, relations between USA and USSR was almost at their worst, but Gorbatchev took leadership in '85 and changed everything--that's the meaning of Rocky's speech after the match. Have a nice day. If you want to know about this tense relationship in more details, watch this: well made, packed with informations & full of jokes, to make it less boring: ruclips.net/video/I79TpDe3t2g/видео.html little history crash course in a few minutes. Have a nice day & I'll watch what else you have here.
it was a period where US-USSR tensions were strong. That's why you see that part where there is NO approval for this match between Rocky and Drago from the American side. There was no presence of the United States (and many other nations) at the 1980 Moscow Olympics following the Russian invasion of Afghanistan.
Never forget that the U.S. deliberately lured the USSR into Afghanistan with the See-Eye-Ay arming and funding the Mujaheddin as they committed acts of terrorism, including burning co-ed schools and government offices, and throwing acid in the faces of female students (Hekmatyar was notorious for that practice, and no Mujaheddin zealot received more money from the U.S. at that time). Carter's NSA said we needed to give the Soviets "their Vietnam," and that's how the Talibs came to power in the first place.
To add to this, in the 1984 summer Olympics in Los Angeles, the Soviet Union boycotted in retaliation for the US boycotting of their 1980 summer games. So by 1985, every athletic competition between these two countries was seen as political. 1985 was the beginning of a thaw in relations, with the selection of Gorbachev as general secretary who they sort of try to depict in the movie without actually depicting him.
Der buh der buh der. This is the kind of establishment-pleasing comment YT lets stand. Say something relevant about the period and see what happens to your comment. I guess the CIA never did anything in Afghanistan. That's the AI/YT-algorithm version of "history." As long as we never say anything meaningful or illuminating, we're allowed "free speech."
Bunny-chan: yes, Drago was being injected with steroids. i think we can all agree that his strength is freakishly abnormal ... and we can see the needle being given. (And obviously, such blatant cheating is intended to further cement Drago and the USSR as villains.) In real life, the USSR routinely gave its Olympic athletes steroids, and was caught more than a few times. (Present-day Russia has also been banned for such doping, as recently as 2015.) It was commonly understood at the time that a Russian athlete NOT using steroids would be strange. ---
This film was made during the Cold War. The Soviet Union and America were enemies. There are some good things about this movie, which is very much of its time (1985). But, this film also contains a lot of political propaganda which, in my opinion, sours an otherwise moving David vs Goliath story. For example: Drago's Soviet handler (the jerk ass guy Bunny-chan mentioned) ... he's a jerk because Stallone wrote him that way. The Soviets are portrayed as very one-dimensional caricatures and villains in this. Reality is more complex. The film does try to get a modestly positive message across at the end ... but a relatively confusing one. Rocky's best friend Apollo couldn't change, so Rocky doing the exact same thing (fighting Drago) equalled change?? Eh--??
Even having Drago lash out angrily in mid-bout at his political handler (after being unwittingly influenced by Rocky, of course) was pushing the western concept that "individualism is good, and collectivism is bad". The politicization (Apollo and Rocky representing America, and Drago representing the USSR) throughout is heavy-handed and cartoonish.
P.S. [Just my opinion] i strongly dislike this "director's cut" ... which was cut by the same director who cut the original! It's really important to remember that Stallone wrote and directed this, and had complete control over the original cut. Director's cuts only make sense if the director was denied control over the original. 35 years later, the much-older Stallone decided to rewrite history with this new cut that no one was asking for, during the "stay at home" pandemic period. He wasn't the same man that he had been 35 years before ... and in my experience, older men usually do a poor job of revising or even assessing the work of their youth.
The new cut's primary characteristic is that he removed a ton of the original film (yada), while adding stuff that should have stayed on the cutting room floor. (For example: Apollo's funeral in the original worked so much better in my view, because so little was verbally said... the weight of that silence is powerful.) Even little things like Rocky and Drago staring at each other's eyes as Apollo dies, in the original cut, with the sinister-sounding synth drop ... why was that removed?!
Most of the changes stem from hubris, or bitterness over Stallone's ex-wife's role as Drago's wife (she had considerably more footage and focus in the original, but his brief marriage to Brigitte Nielsen ended bitterly not long after this) --- or simply being cheap (for example, not wanting to pay royalties to the creator of Paulie's robot). He changed the title of the movie. He changed the aspect ratio. He changed important story elements. Even Gorbachev's response to the Christmas bout result is changed! i could go on ... suffice to say, artistic revisionism can be very sketchy.
Rocky IV also had a different person doing the music, as opposed to all the other films. The new guy's work won a Golden Raspberry Award for Worst Musical Score. --- IV is not the best of the series, and should be viewed with awareness of the underlying propaganda. But that's no reason for Stallone to take an editor's hatchet to this period piece 35 years later. Of course it doesn't really matter ... watch what you want, like what you like. But i have opinions on this ww
Just a word of advice. Don't think too hard about the timeline. Good example is between 4 and 5, Robert (Rocky Jr.) ages as if 5 years have passed, which they did IRL, but the movie plays it like Rocky is just coming home from the end of this movie. Breaks the brain a little bit.
I couldn't decide whether or not I liked this version over the original release, because the original has scenes that aren't in this one, and this one has some scenes that aren't in the original...plus the occasional alternate take...SOOOOO...me, being a fan editor made a hybrid version. I used the original as a base because I was more familiar with it, then the scenes that are in this and not the other...I just put them in as "deleted scenes", and when it came to the alternate takes, I just chose the one I liked better.
Is there somewhere I can see that? I've thought about doing 1 myself in passing after finally seeing this a year or so ago.
I think a lot of people would really enjoy something like that
That’s what I’d like to do with the Donner Cut and the Theatrical Superman II. I want my “General, would you care to step outside.”!
Currently have both versions on my computer to do that exact thing. LOL. I also prefer the elevator explosion in space over the call back from the original film. Plus I think the scene with Lois jumping out the window is kinda lame...as is the work print of Lois and Clark in the hotel room with the gun.@@richwagener
@@ChrisReise Yeah, plus the duplicate resolution of turning back the world? My project is going to be to edit the first episode of Superman with George Reeves (Superman on Earth) into the beginning of Superman and the Mole Men to make it a special edition that includes the origin. PS. Not much of an edit, but something I've wanted to do for years.
Hi Bunny, i like the Rocky movies too however, the best boxing movie I ever saw is by far Cinderella Man with Russell Crowe and Renee Zellweger. Great acting, drama and fighting.
This is vastly superior to the theatrical release. He shot a good movie but it didn't end up on the screen. Mind boggling.
The final fight took a week to film. The Las Vegas fight was filmed after.
By the way, they give Ivan (drago) needles (steriods) and machines with training. Giving more oxgygen to the muscles, making him actually cheating.
Rocky just had to lose another friend in this 4th movie. As if losing Mickey wasn't bad enough😒
You are right. The Rocky franchise began as a character study. It slowly turned into a cartoon. I think Stallone was really thinking about worldwide grosses and simplified things way down. The director’s cut is a slight corrective, but the original played much like a music video. I really like Rocky IV, but I often wonder how many people say it is their favorite. I think you will (speaking as if this hasn’t already happened) find more heart returning to the series starting with Rocky Balboa and into Creed.
NOOOOOO!!! Why the hell would you watch the director's cut?!?!?! BAD. Bad, bad, bad. It's a long story but the point is Stallone JUST released this like in 2020 and for those who've ALREADY SEEN Rocky 4, it's like a nice deleted scenes movie, but for those who haven't seen Rocky 4 THIS VERSION feels a lot less like a movie than it does a reel of scenes thrown together with no purpose. This cutisLITERALLY a complication of deleted scenes and bad takes replacing the original takes. I LOVE the Rocky movies with all my heart but seeing you watch THIS VERSION of Rocky 4 is like watching someone watch Jurassic Park 3 BEFORE Jurassic Park 1. Please Go back on your own time and watch the REAL Rocky 4 and you'll see it feels and is more like a movie.
Just to let everyone know, one of the reasons Rocky was so successful (aside from it being a movie, obviously) is the fact that he was a body boxer. Body shots do more damage.
Cold War, approximately 1946-1989, a standoff between the U.S. and the Soviet Union. It's called "cold" because the two countries never fought each other but there were proxy wars, e.g., Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan. Both countries were nuclear with thousands of warheads, and still are (there's no more Soviet Union, but there is still Russia, and Putin wants to recreate Soviet Union version 2.0). If the Cold War had turned hot, millions, if not billions would have died. It's possible that the ensuing nuclear winter would have caused total human extinction. Also, 20 million was a sacred number of sorrow in the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union fought a war of extermination against Germany during WW II. Hitler had turned against its Soviet ally in 1941 and between 1941 & 1945, the Soviet Union lost 20 million people dead (total military and civilians; civilians were about half of this number). For roughly 50 years after the end of the War, Soviet official propaganda repeated this number again and again. Some time after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia put forward a new figure, which is 27 million dead. Actually, no one knows how many Soviet people died in the war, as many records were lost/destroyed.
A couple of thoughts to offer about sports in the USSR and Russian Federation. Essentially if you show any aptitude in sports as a child you would/will essentially be "gently encouraged" to basically turn your kid over to the state for training. From the age of 10 or younger they would begin living at full time sports training facilities. They didn't have professional sports there so you would be placed in government jobs and compete in intra-government leagues when you were not taking part in international competition. The most common jobs were military, police, and other adjacent professions. They would regulate what you ate, when you slept, and how you trained. That included prodigious amounts of PEDs, and still does by all accounts. Russia has taken great stock in international sports competition as a means of displaying their status on the world stage the last 100+ years.
Actually at this time all althetes were in the Soviet Army. That's why he wears a uniform at the press conference.
@@visaman Well the uniforms can be deceiving their are multiple paramilitary organizations in the USSR, and Russian Federation, that wear that kind of uniform. Like MVD, KGB, and similar sections of the police state that also had athletes within their leagues that would compete externally and internally. Their was competition politically for nabbing the best athletes for these groups.
@ididthisonpulpous6526 ok thank you. I was thinking back to the Canada vs. USSR Hockey Summit in the 70s. My dad told me their hockey players were in the Army.
@@visaman Most of them were to be fair, but I had read something about several Olympic wrestlers from USSR were in the "state police" which would have to be something like the KGB...
Bunny, I'm so happy you made it to part 4. It's a kind of "guilty pleasure" for fans of the series. It's very similar to Bloodsport. It's low quality but somehow incredibly watchable.
EDIT: I know a lot people would disagree with me (I think even Stallone would) but I like the original cut of the movie better.
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Just to give some background on the Cold War from Germany.
My parents were Fijian and in the Britsh Army from the 60s - late 70s and then we stayed here in Germany. My dad then was a civilian Engineer attached to the British Army.
Although being in the german system (School, civilian life) I also spent a lot of time in British Cubs and Scouts and camps.
We lived close to the city Osnabrück which had multiple British Army camps and hundreds of families of Soldiers. Also other civilians for Schools, Shops etc. There were many cities like that in Germany with British bases.
In the event of a conventional attack by the East Bloc countries into West Germany through Eastern Germany etc the idea was initially the first Troops were to deploy and try to slow them down whilst said families and civilian personnel were evacuated back to Britain etc.
The Life Expectancy of these initially deployed Troops was 24 hours! 😲
In the event of nuclear attack we were so close to Osnabrück it would have been a moot point calculating your chances.
That was just the kind of background everybody (Germans and Brits alike) lived with. It was normality that you hardly ever thought about.
Things did get a bit more disconcerting and real as a kid when the Chernobyl Disaster happened and you weren't supposed to even play outside any more because of the risk of radioactive Fallout ☢
But maybe that'S a story for another day. The Chernobyl mini-series is well worth watching.