Gear Talk: Vedder Spring Steelhead

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024

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  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  12 лет назад +1

    Thank you, glad to hear that you find it helpful.

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  12 лет назад

    You want to match the food items that are in the water where you are fishing. In salt, Coyotes are used to imitate herring and other baitfish. In streams during spring, salmon fry are present so smaller spoons are needed to match these fish, which are roughly between 1 and 2 inches long. Coyotes are just a bit too big to accomplish this task.

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  12 лет назад

    Yep. The big difference in float size is mostly due to the size of the streams that are available for fishing between the two provinces. The small stream fishery with a sensitive float must be very exciting, you can rarely find a place to do that in this part of Canada.

  • @slugpumper1
    @slugpumper1 12 лет назад

    Thank you so much pal - that was very informative - I have just moved to Garrison Crossing from the UK and the style of fishing and methods used are very different from those at home. A very exciting time indeed for me to learn all of this new stuff and perhaps apply techniques developed in Europe for Course fish at the same time - will be on the search for Carp come the summer as well which looks like a largely unexplored fishing resourse in the valley - Cheers Chris.

  • @MikeyDLuffy
    @MikeyDLuffy 12 лет назад

    Great video! I was just wondering how you fish a spoon with a float? Im used to fishing for bass/pike so obviously it was always just a cast and retrieve method but when you use a float on it in a pond, do you simply treat it as you would a worm? just cast it and leave it there while the river takes it? Also would you recommend using a spoon in September-October, or do you prefer something else for this season.

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  11 лет назад

    Hi Dennis, I've never heard of or tried the rod and reel that you mentioned, so can't really comment on that. When choosing the rod for Vedder steelhead, you want to look for a few features. The line rating should be around 8 - 12lb, 8 - 15lb... 8' is reasonable and good for starting out, but longer would be more advantageous (9' or 10'6"). For the reel, you want to look for one that has a reasonable capacity for 12lb test mono (120yd). Good luck!

  • @TheFisherman656
    @TheFisherman656 12 лет назад

    good gear talk Rod! I run a lot of the same line/gear as you. I found that the vedder has some big steelhead (obviously) so i run 10lb maxima ultragreen leader and 15 mainline. I landed some fish between 16-19 pounds this year that wanted to go into logs/down rapids and i was VERY happy to be running 10lb instead of 8lb.

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  11 лет назад

    Lower river is indeed from the Vedder Crossing downstream to the canal. That's where I do most of my steelhead fishing.

  • @FishingCanterbury
    @FishingCanterbury 12 лет назад

    HI I am in Canterbury New Zealand. I LOVE ALL your Videos. Good Fishing. Keep the Videos Coming Thanks..

  • @blandry021
    @blandry021 9 лет назад

    Very good information for someone who never float fished before. Thanks.

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  12 лет назад

    Thanks! Glad you enjoy them. Hopefully we'll be able to come down to NZ one day... :)

  • @MulletTV
    @MulletTV 12 лет назад

    We are in the process of getting our Winter Gear tuned up

  • @StevensPassRider91
    @StevensPassRider91 12 лет назад

    Awesome video thanks! I am gonna give this a go down here in Washington state!

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  12 лет назад

    It's definitely a good investment if you want to try this style of fishing. The resell value of the reel also does not drop very much if you take good care of it. Good luck.

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  11 лет назад

    Yes and no. The Chilliwack Vedder River steelhead season starts in December and officially ends on May 31st, however, there are seasonal regulations are in place between May 1st and 31st which you should be aware of. During the month of May, the river is closed for fishing above the Vedder Crossing. Downstream from the Vedder Crossing is only open for fly fishing. The method demonstrated in this video is not allowed during the month of May. Good luck.

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  12 лет назад

    The CSS130ML4B is indeed a little light for salmon fishing, especially in rivers where strong current exists. A Clarus model rated in the 8 to 12/17lb range is a bit more appropriate.

  • @ozziebarlow1
    @ozziebarlow1 11 лет назад

    Thanks for the quick reply. I have thought about getting a GoPro but have not looked into them. Oz

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  11 лет назад

    Most of the time I have someone controlling the camera, occasionally I film on my own. A tripod is always used, which is especially beneficial if you are closing up on subjects that are far away. We film with DSLR cameras, specifically Canon T2i and T3i with a variety of lenses. These are not ideal cameras for filming on your own because there's a fair amount of settings that need to be controlled manually, but for production purpose, the results are always very good if the settings are correct.

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  12 лет назад

    Usually just a improved clinch knot to the swivel, and a bait loop knot for the hook.

  • @ozziebarlow1
    @ozziebarlow1 11 лет назад

    What kind of camera system do you use? do you set up a camera and tripod focused on you and then fish? Or do you have someone taking film of you while you're fishing. I have thought about getting a camera when I fish sometimes, just for the fun of it. but I have no idea what kind of camera I should get. Thanks oz

  • @ridgetownpimp
    @ridgetownpimp 12 лет назад

    I never knew about spinner/ spoon fishing under a float, I can't wait to try it. Thanks!

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  12 лет назад

    Thanks! Glad that you enjoy them. :)

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  12 лет назад

    It really depends on what spinning rod you have. A short answer would be no.
    You can get relatively inexpensive centerpin rods from Shimano (Convergence) if you are just starting out with the centerpin.

  • @s.jameson4296
    @s.jameson4296 12 лет назад

    rod , your videos are the best !

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  12 лет назад

    Steelhead is indeed an anadromous/sea-going variety of rainbow trout. Both share the same scientific name, Oncorhynchus mykiss. Quite a few species in the Pacific Northwest have these similar anadromous/resident life histories. For example, coastal cutthroat trout, bull trout, white sturgeon, sockeye salmon/kokanee. Even chinook and coho salmon can be landlocked instead of anadromous.

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  11 лет назад

    GoPro is an excellent, reasonably priced camera for two applications, POV and underwater shots. Because of the lack of control like focus and aperture, they are not as good for scenery and portrait shots.

  • @MrChris2Fur
    @MrChris2Fur 12 лет назад

    What type of knot do you usually use to tie your swivels, hooks, etc.?

  • @crayola7thshade
    @crayola7thshade 12 лет назад

    hey rod i went and bout one of throws spoons today and im going to the vedder tomorrow thanks for the tips !!!!! ............... do moor vids on steelhead !

  • @TheDrywallogist
    @TheDrywallogist 9 лет назад

    im new to BC fishing and your info has been very helpful thanks

    • @FishingwithRod
      @FishingwithRod  9 лет назад

      TheDrywallogist You're welcome. Glad you've found it helpful!

  • @BAKHSING
    @BAKHSING 11 лет назад

    hi Rod love your vids just starting fishing in the Vedder my sister and her boyfriend moved here from Alberta and i won't to show them how good the fishing is here. i was wondering can i use a Vigor vsp-50xl 8 foot rod with a vigor GL-800 reel to catch steelhead in the Vedder. still learning what to use and for bait and hooks.

  • @jakewilson813
    @jakewilson813 9 лет назад

    Hey Rod, love your channel. I was just wondering if islander sends you those reels? or do you have to buy all on them?

  • @sportsdude1094
    @sportsdude1094 11 лет назад

    just another quick question, when you say lower river, is that vedder crossing? and where abouts are you on the vedder in the fishing with rod: vedder spring steelhead? thanks again
    kurt

  • @hnakahama
    @hnakahama 10 лет назад

    Hi Rod. Great video and I like you little green utility box for your hooks and stuff. Can you let me know who manufactures that box and where to get one. Thanks

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  12 лет назад

    You're welcome. :) We'll be doing this more often in the future.

  • @midget2000x
    @midget2000x 11 лет назад

    Thanks Rod, I need all the help I can get! I have been fishing the vedder quite a bit this winter but haven't been having alot of luck. Did get a whitefish on the little shaver yesterday tho! ;) OK not super impressive, but it's a bobber down!

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  11 лет назад

    It depends on your budget and your expectation on the reel. Trophy reels are much cheaper than Islander reels. They are good entry-level reels but you'll find that over time their performance will not meet your expectation. Islander reels are expensive, but their spin is much smoother, which is a rather important feature for centerpin reels. If you just want to try out centerpin fishing, then go for the Trophy. If you want to do it for a long time, then Islander is a better choice.

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  11 лет назад

    There aren't "productive" parts for steelhead fishing as fish are pretty spread out, unless salmon. One day it can be good in one section and completely dead on the following day, as fish are always on the move. This time of the year is always pretty good. Water is warmer, there are more fish in the system. My recommendation is to focus on the lower section of the river, where most newly arrived/fresh fish are holding. Good luck.

  • @KevinElmoreArkansas
    @KevinElmoreArkansas 12 лет назад

    Really great information and very well done!

  • @alalbert5707
    @alalbert5707 9 лет назад

    thanks for the info Rod, can you explain more about other steelhead presentation , also I would like to know waht part of river (chilliwack) is more productive , upper river or lower ? fast current or in sholder ?
    thank you for the all your great videos

  • @robertlambstar9162
    @robertlambstar9162 11 лет назад

    This may be a stupid Question.. But, Can you use a center pin reel for fly fishing too?

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  11 лет назад

    The two types of reels look pretty similar, but you cannot use a centerpin reel for fly fishing.

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  12 лет назад

    You're welcome, hopefully you'll find some success with it!

  • @fishotherapyadventures
    @fishotherapyadventures 3 года назад

    My line on my centerpin reel before was 30lbs and it was so rough to cast and retrieve. So I downgraded it to 17lbs . Its way more smoother.

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  12 лет назад

    It's Islander Steelhead Centerpin.

  • @BorisWDell
    @BorisWDell 12 лет назад

    It drifts with the float and the blade spin and shines.

  • @vladimirr3751
    @vladimirr3751 10 лет назад

    Great info, thanks for all info, would like to share with you Ontario streams that we have here.
    Good fishing this season

  • @yidong21
    @yidong21 11 лет назад

    Hi Ronny,
    Recently I am fishing at Vedder river for Spring salmon. It is fast water and looks like about 4 to 8 feet deep at most. I followed your technic and used 2 feet leader with roe but I could not get any bite. I saw most people used very long leaders and they were doing good. one guy's leader looks like about 4 to 5 feet and another 4 to 5 feet from weight to the float. He almost got hit every several cast. I followed that and then got a spring Jack. I could not figure out why is that.

  • @14798940
    @14798940 11 лет назад

    Hi, Rod! I found army&navy in Langley doesn't have the steelhead reel, but they have trophy reels .. should i get that instead? if so what model would you recommend? THX

  • @Hapinopino
    @Hapinopino 7 лет назад

    Do you have any center pin casting videos? Im new to this style of fishing and need to learn how to cast properly and comfortably. Ive watched the Wallis cast but the cast I want to see more of is the BC cast/BC swing cast.

  • @MadenBritain1
    @MadenBritain1 12 лет назад

    This has nothing to do with fishing but what camera do u use?

  • @Jfldhr
    @Jfldhr 5 лет назад

    We use 13 feeder in Ontario, and we have small creeks, don’t know why we use this long rod all the time .

  • @asiamann6356
    @asiamann6356 7 лет назад

    hwy Rodney i was just wondering what part of the river this was?

  • @RiskClinic
    @RiskClinic 12 лет назад

    Whats The Reel Called Again I couldn't quite get the name

  • @MrChris2Fur
    @MrChris2Fur 12 лет назад

    What about lures, rooster tails, flies, etc.?

  • @sgtturtleduckchosegoose6970
    @sgtturtleduckchosegoose6970 10 лет назад

    Also another great steelhead reel is the abu Garcia ambasedure 6500 bait casting reel

  • @GetBeefy
    @GetBeefy 12 лет назад

    can you use the salmon trolling spoons? like coyotes? i mostly salt water fish so i have a lot of them

  • @sportsdude1094
    @sportsdude1094 11 лет назад

    Hey there, im just wondering how the fishing is right now. im just learning how to fish stealies. i was also wondering which parts of the vedder are being more productive?
    thanks

  • @crt1983uk
    @crt1983uk 7 лет назад

    Hi, it looks so unnatural to have the reel positioned low down on the rod like a fly rod, in England we have the reel much higher up the handle meaning you can keep constant pressure while fighting fish. It’s easy to cast that way. Check out the Ray Walton rolling pin. It swivels, making casting easier for beginners. You can also add an extra eye right next to the bottom eye to help with loop cast as you can pull out double the amount of line.

  • @chemmer1127
    @chemmer1127 12 лет назад

    In the Niagara Region(ontario) we are blessed with diversity, while our fish are not sea run, they are still alot of fun,
    I fish a 24 gram in the winter in the Niagara River, Running 10lb main, 8lb shot leader and anywhere from 3-6 lbs depending on clarity.
    When I fish the smaller erie tribs I run a 4g float with 10lb main and 4 lb tippet.
    While fishing small streamers are fun, big water has much more mystery and holds more excitement to me!

  • @welfaresbcast6073
    @welfaresbcast6073 10 лет назад

    I have an islander steelheader it doesent seem to spin very fast do you think it will work in?

  • @Joshualoncarevich
    @Joshualoncarevich 12 лет назад

    can you put a center pin reel on a spinning rod, as of now i don't have enough for both at once

  • @Koomzy475
    @Koomzy475 Год назад

    Where do you get your reel

  • @Joshualoncarevich
    @Joshualoncarevich 12 лет назад

    Thanks! I have a 10'6 st croix spinning rod btw

  • @sportsdude1094
    @sportsdude1094 11 лет назад

    thanks again!
    see you on the river!!

  • @christinemckay514
    @christinemckay514 9 лет назад

    thanks for the video...one question ...is your float fixed in position or is it able to slide along the main line?...if its held how do you hold it in place...perhaps you have a video showing the hook ups? thanks

    • @FishingwithRod
      @FishingwithRod  9 лет назад

      +Christine McKay Thanks! The float is fixed in one position by having float stoppers on both ends of the slip float. I usually use two float stoppers at each end just to prevent any slipping. I choose to have it fixed instead of freely running with only stoppers at the top because I find this keeps my presentation in the strike zone longer.

  • @vdubcrazya3319
    @vdubcrazya3319 9 лет назад

    Great channel rod just wanted to throw something out there you should try using fluorocarbon its a lot more abrasion resistant than the mono. mono is like a rubber band it stretches so when it gets nicked it wants to break in that spot fluoro doesnt stretch so it doesnt break as easy. I wish we had the typed of fishing you have there here in southern California. you would probly say the same about our fishing lol just thought i would throw that out there i do a lot of light line fishing here in the surf for different types of fish and some with really bad teeth i dont go anywhere now without fluoro i fish a lot of 4# for fish ranging form 1 to 15 pounds it really does help. oh and one more thing it doesnt reflect light so it is invisible in the water unlike mono that does reflect light so for picky fish it will change your 1 fish days to 10

  • @Idontevenwipe
    @Idontevenwipe 10 лет назад

    Hi rod I love watching your videos im a regular viewer and im wanting to get into centerpin fishing. What do you think would be a good starter rod and reel for me any suggestions? Thanks

    • @FishingwithRod
      @FishingwithRod  10 лет назад

      Thanks Dylan. A good starter rod for centerpin fishing is Shimano Convergence, 10'6", rated 12 to 20lb. It's a very durable rod, and quite enjoyable to use and the price is just right (under $100). For centerpin reels, it's a good idea to invest on a good one. There are inexpensive starter reels, in the $100 to $150 range, but they don't spin as well and can influence your learning progress. I'm a little bias, but Islander Steelhead, the reel featured in this video, is a good one to go with. It's a higher end reel, but it also does not lose a lot of resell value so if you decide that centerpin fishing is not for you, then you can sell it close to what you paid for as long as the reel is well maintained. Good luck!

    • @Idontevenwipe
      @Idontevenwipe 10 лет назад

      Thank you so much it means alot that you helped me out and replied

  • @infinity251214
    @infinity251214 11 лет назад

    hi Rod, love all your informative videos! I was wondering if you have middle of the road suggestions for a centerpin reel. the islander is a bit oout of my price range but am overwhelmed by all the mid range reels avail locally(vancouver). any suggestions? willing to travel to Washington State if models aren't avail locally, as there are more makes to choose from south of the border.

    • @FishingwithRod
      @FishingwithRod  11 лет назад

      Thanks. There are indeed quite a few centerpin reels in the lower price range. Trophy XL Winter Run is an entry level model. Rapala's Shift is also very nice for under $300. You may also want to look at used Islander Steelheaders in buy and sells. Good luck.

    • @seanm7211
      @seanm7211 11 лет назад

      Infinity I would have a look at used islanders (go $250-300), new rapala centerpins ($100-300) or used raven reels ($100-250)

    • @41odyssey
      @41odyssey 10 лет назад +1

      raven matrix, 160 or so online if you look around and about 200 or so locally nice reel for the price even better with some boca bearings in it.
      the rapala reels are junk.

  • @jaxonmackie4650
    @jaxonmackie4650 9 лет назад

    Would the trophy xl medium light mooching rod be a good all round cp rod if you don't want to be on the light side?

    • @FishingwithRod
      @FishingwithRod  9 лет назад

      jaxon mackie Yes it can be good. Also take a look at 10'6" Shimano Convergence mooching rod rated 12 to 20lb as well. If I recall correctly, its weight is lighter than the Trophy XL and it is a very durable rod for coho, steelhead and even chinook salmon.

  • @nathandaws933
    @nathandaws933 11 лет назад

    what makes a good fly reel?

  • @costomlongboards
    @costomlongboards 11 лет назад

    is it to late to fish there now

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  11 лет назад

    Read our articles, what this video, all the questions you keep asking have been covered.

  • @bradburnside213
    @bradburnside213 3 года назад

    Do any of those reels come with a drag?

    • @FishingwithRod
      @FishingwithRod  3 года назад

      No these reels have a 1 to 1 ratio and do not have a drag system so the constant free spool feature allows you to cast and drift the float with no drag. There is a clicker but generally it is not used while fighting the fish, it's mostly used to ensure that the spool doesn't turn on its own when walking with the rod.

  • @dbuhler171
    @dbuhler171 11 лет назад

    What size Little Shaver do you recommend?

    • @FishingwithRod
      @FishingwithRod  11 лет назад

      The one we used to catch those steelhead in the video is 1/16oz. I've also been told that the smaller one (1/32oz) can be even better.

  • @lakeshorefishing6864
    @lakeshorefishing6864 6 лет назад

    I tried looking for the rod at the place you linked me but I can’t find it can u please find me a store I can order from that has it this is the only rod that fits everything I want in a steelhead rod it’s perfect

  • @SnapBackCollector211
    @SnapBackCollector211 11 лет назад

    im staring new to centerpin fishing and i wanna put a 1 foot for my main line and 2 ft leader is that good enough im fishing lake ontario trib

  • @RiskClinic
    @RiskClinic 12 лет назад

    Thanks

  • @shakkey13
    @shakkey13 11 лет назад

    rod you rock great advise keep it up

  • @Castman939
    @Castman939 11 лет назад

    thank you i needed that

  • @BorisWDell
    @BorisWDell 12 лет назад

    i had one an broke emediaty after a 2 pound trout for my bro

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  11 лет назад

    You're welcome.

  • @shawnbarry3893
    @shawnbarry3893 5 лет назад

    Thanks dude 👍

  • @lakeshorefishing6864
    @lakeshorefishing6864 6 лет назад

    hey i love this rod and really want to get one can you send me a link to where i can please and thank you

    • @FishingwithRod
      @FishingwithRod  6 лет назад

      islander.com is where you will find the information. :)

    • @lakeshorefishing6864
      @lakeshorefishing6864 6 лет назад

      lol I see what happened I said I wanted to get the rod rod, not your name that trophy rod where can I get that I have the islander and I love it but I really want to get that rod

    • @FishingwithRod
      @FishingwithRod  6 лет назад

      lol... I misread it "Hey I love this, Rod, and really want to get one..." ;)
      Anyway, Trophy XL rods are distributed in BC and they are found at most retail stores here. I just sold that particular rod in the video actually... If you email one of the stores here, they should be able to figure out how to get one to you. Berry's Bait and Tackle is a good one to check out.

    • @lakeshorefishing6864
      @lakeshorefishing6864 6 лет назад

      Thanks, rod do you have any other places I can look at to order one from ??

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  12 лет назад

    ?
    If you and your friend choose to come here and leave negative comments, expect negative feedbacks. Treat others like the way you'd like to be treated, it really is not a difficult concept for most individuals. Your buddy left an unwelcoming comment in our video and felt insulted after being told off. Don't embarrass yourself by doing the same.

  • @lakeshorefishing6864
    @lakeshorefishing6864 6 лет назад

    im still looking for this trophy xl rod i can't find it i really need it for mid October

    • @FishingwithRod
      @FishingwithRod  6 лет назад

      You're best to ask the manufacturer because I don't work for them and wouldn't know more than you.

    • @lakeshorefishing6864
      @lakeshorefishing6864 6 лет назад

      alright thanks rod

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  12 лет назад

    Canon 550D.

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  12 лет назад

    Thanks! ;)

  • @estrela-x8511
    @estrela-x8511 10 лет назад

    What line u use for salmon on your reel

    • @NoRodnoReel
      @NoRodnoReel 5 лет назад

      Estrela -X watch the video, all these questions are answered in the video

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  12 лет назад

    Hopefully one day. ;)

  • @GetBeefy
    @GetBeefy 12 лет назад

    merci beaucoup

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  11 лет назад

    Yes, never judge a book by its cover.

  • @dawsoncoates
    @dawsoncoates 9 лет назад

    who knows of a cheap center pin combo or a cheap and cheap reel?

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  12 лет назад +1

    Yeah, next season, heavier leader. ;)

  • @23v0lv32
    @23v0lv32 10 лет назад +4

    @9.11 rod so sooo depressed about using barbless hooks. lol.

  • @FishingwithRod
    @FishingwithRod  12 лет назад

    1/12oz.

  • @tannerscanlan1206
    @tannerscanlan1206 10 лет назад

    Love your vids soo much please more steel head vids, I'm 13 I've been steel heading for more then half my life, I have a islander steelheader also and a st.croix 11'6 great combo, if you are ever in Ontario and need tips send me an email:)

  • @DarkShooper
    @DarkShooper 12 лет назад

    any old walmart fly rod will work, that is, if its the right weight

  • @chemmer1127
    @chemmer1127 12 лет назад

    Then again Im fishing a 17 ft rod... rated 4-8lbs.

  • @JamesBerkey
    @JamesBerkey 12 лет назад

    I might have to save all my pennies for that reel.

  • @alvinbarrera
    @alvinbarrera 11 лет назад

    That is flossing the fish technique