I did have a idea for a loyalist Space marine chapter. The Nova Watch, Marines who’s geneseed is of salamander origin and they target specifically cults of nurgle and work to cleanse plague worlds, and use pykers to try and find pyschic ways to cure nurgles disease’s.
I made a successor chapter with an unknown geneseed. They're from the Ultima founding and are called the Sundancers. They're in the 300s in total and just protect a planet from Drunkhari and daemon incursions. Their allies are a plantery defense force and a handful of Eldari.
@@astartesanonymous i made few years ago for a literature campaign on forum Unseen Avengers, Third Founding (kinda) successors from Raven Guard. Descendants of nomad hunter terran fleet that returned to Imperium during Heresy, after scirmishes with traitors vanished back into wild space and was later re-discovered in remote star cluster by stray Blood Angels ship that had to make an emergency warp-exit to escape a storm. By modus operandi, not as much heroic as pragmatic and cunning. Camo, jamming of communication networks or even sudden reckorded roar of ork horde sounding through enemy comm-net. Oh, and a tradition of cuting five-edge star (symbol of chapter) on heads of slain heretic leaders.
It's amazing how much of a rabbit hole one homebrew chapter can turn into. I started out with just the Solar Spurs, my cowboy White Scars. Now I've got Macharia Eschate, an entire subsector with various regiments, planets, and so on where the theme is centered around frontiersmen from throughout history. It was then that I saw how versatile 40k really is as a setting.
That's interesting. I'd assume the subsector would be on the frontier of the Imperium if they were based off of frontier peoples from history, like cowboys and whatnot. 'Solar Spurs' is a pretty neat name. It sounds pretty campy but not so campy to me as to be unbelievable.
@@thelegate8636 could you give any more details as to the actual writing process you used to make the subsection? I'm curious because it's a pretty large thing to do.
Finally a not shitty opinion on homebrew. For real, so many of the supposedly cooler people in the hobby are very gatekeepy about homebrew so it's so nice to see someone with a following talk about it in an inclusive way. Super excited for the other videos!
@@astartesanonymous I completely agree! That's not a sentiment you always see in they hobby and I'm so thrilled I found your channel. All your videos make me feel welcome in the hobby!
Tbf tourist are always inserting there ideaolgy like female space marines,lgbt things(even tho they belong to slannish),Swastikas(they say it's the hindi sign) and other things that's just break the overall lore hell they always give a vague description and not just explain it fully or come up stories and characters for them
@inwit594 Gate keeping is a necessity for a hobby to grow because your giving the benefit a doubt to bad actor's who will use your own hobby against you and then the hobby dies and wonder what happened to the hobby maybe because of the bad actor's that the hobby is dead
I’ve always had the idea of three space marines chapters who where almost destroyed coming together and forming a whole new chapter with three different lineages and traditions working together. Each keep there own traditions and making new ones. And they pick there chapter master but having the highest ranking member form each different Original chapters fight for it in a three way dual every 150 years or so.
@@henrypaleveda7760 never really thought put much into it but the Origin chapters are that of salamanders, imperial fist and a unknown one ( a mixed gene seed one). The only ideas I had for a chapter name was the triple sons or the devastated sons. There also fleet based
@@henrypaleveda7760 The craftsmanship is what you expect to be from a salamanders and imperial fist. But the salamanders mostly tend to weapons and armor while the imperial fist mainly deal with the ships and armor vehicles besides dreadnoughts those go to the salamanders.
This would certainly be a great way to incorporate multiple geneseeds into the chapter! Also a really good way to make a chapter that has a big jack-of-all-trades vibe like the Dark Angels often do with their Hexagrammaton
I love the creative power that the 40k setting can lend to homebrew. My homebrew chapter, the Dawn Barons, are of Night Lords lineage, and instead of hiding that fact, they openly embrace it as they fight to atone for the sins of their fathers. One of the chapter's customs/traditions involves librarians (and anyone else who wishes to show the true extent of their devotion to the chapter's cause) ritually blinding themselves in imitation of the chapter master blinding himself in anguish when finding out about the chapter's true geneseed origins.
I've got two, but my favorite are the Blood Roses, which are basically my attempt at making Pretty Marines Canon. Geneseed: Cursed founding, officially Blood Angels but some come out of the geneseed process having white hair and occasionally purple eyes. Their Chapter Master, prior to being interred into a dreadnought, is said to have looked startlingly like remembrancer depictions of Fulgrim. Anyways, to stop beating around the bush, their geneseed is a somehow functional but cursed attempt at combining the geneseed of the Emperor's Children and the Blood Angels to create the perfect Loyalists. There's one problem: The Inquisition fucking knows and their days are numbered unless they get the right Inquisitors on their side and fucking quickly. They themselves also know of their cursed lineage, and do everything they can to avoid becoming like the Emperor's Children, including to killing anybody amongst their ranks who gets multiple scars on their face (Lucius, anyone?)
I think this is a REALLY strong premise and would make an excellent foundation for a short story if you ever wanted to have a crack at it. Cursed Founding is the perfect choice for a Loyalist EC/BAs wombo combo
My homebrew space marine army is supposed to be rouge remnants of the second legion that had finally showed back up in the 41st millennium. Since I was using dark angel model’s for this army, I needed to justify them having watchers in the dark. To make a lot of bs homebrew lore short, I decided that the second primarch was a powerful blank, but his genetic flaw was that he was forever stuck as a child. This meant that whenever someone was implanted with his geneseed there was a chance for them to become a blank and stop growing as well, explaining the presence of the watcher in the dark models. I used this bit about him being stuck as a child to help explain why he ended up getting erased from history. Essentially he was still rather naive and innocent like a child, so he ended up not being able to handle the brutality of the Great crusade. He thought if he and the eleventh primarch rebelled most of the other primarchs would join up with him, and they could do a relatively bloodless coup of his father’s imperium. This belief was quickly shattered, alongside most of the bones in his body when Lemann Russ showed up to execute him and the eleventh primarch. In the few hours between realizing he had made some massive miscalculations in his plan and dying, he managed to get some of his legion to flee into the warp. Once they eventually popped back out they found an Imperium even worse then the one they had rebelled against, but they had no real way to rebel against it without immediately dying. Fortunately they had popped out in the dark side of the galaxy that’s disconnected from Terra, so they had some degree of breathing room. So taking advantage of the fact that every record of their existence has been censored and that they are in space boonies, some of the survivors reluctantly rejoined the Imperium, mostly for the sake of fighting chaos. They made up a bs backstory to justify their existence, and most people in the dark side of the galaxy were a bit too desperate for help to question them too much. Another bunch of them hated the Imperium even worse now and tried continuing the rebellion. They only had middling success in this, claiming five systems before being ground to halt and forced onto the defensive; essentially becoming a diet Farsight enclaves. Then the rest of them decided to neither rejoin the imperium or fight against it, instead choosing to fly around and look for any planets in need of their aid and happily giving it; before moving since if they stay too long people might start to ask some questions about who they are and the last thing they want is attention. The reason I had them split into three separate groups like this, is so I can easily justify any tabletop game I end up playing. And the ones that rejoined the Imperium are used to justify any game that I use primaris instead of 30k models in. Their Legion culture is heavily based upon their Primarch’s faith in Protethism, which is basically the Protestant version of Catharicism. This has lead to the legion being very much into self sacrifice and favoring weapons usually considered dangerous to their users, like plasma weapons. They have always used very few dreadnaughts, viewing such a thing as delaying their battle brother from moving onto the afterlife, making them rather cruel in their eyes. They are also very much into mercy and almost always offer their enemy a chance to flee before the battle begins. During the great crusade they got along with very few of the other legions. This was due to a mix of their religious beliefs and their merciful attitudes being considered naive at best, and the large number of blanks in their legion didn’t help matters. They ended up having rivalry’s with quite other legions, like the Iron Warriors and and Deathguard, but their most intense rivalry was with the 1000 sons. The second primarch’s home world had originally been controlled by a cabal of Tzenetchain sorcerers; which lead to him having a dislike of any sort of sorcery which was shared by his legion. The 1000 sons on the other hand got massive headaches at best whenever around the second legion, so this caused a mutual hatred to form between the legions. Weirdly enough, the legion had a decent enough relationship with the night lords during the great crusade. While they had major problems with the Night Lord’s methods, they were able to at least appreciate the ultimate result of less deaths. They also got along with the Salamander’s, the Ultramarines, Raven Guard, and the eleventh legion. In the current setting their biggest rival is the night lords, since both legions are focused on smaller fringe worlds so they frequently clash. Their legion name is the Sons of the Lamb, with their original name before being found by their primarch was the Sons of Silence. Their original color scheme was gold and red, similar to the sisters of silence, but upon being reunited with their primarch he changed the colors to white and gold, since he thought using gold as the primary color was too excessive. The color of their right shoulder pad depends on what company they are in. First company uses light blue, second uses red, third uses purple, and fourth uses black.
If you think a Space Marine Chapter is complicated, try a Mechanicus Forge World. I've been slowly piecing together one for the better part of two years, and I'm still not done. It's hard because you have to do homebrews within homebrews, usually ones that can be entirely separate things. Does the FW have a Titan Legion? If so, what's their culture? How many Engines do they have? What's their specialization and weakness? What nasty things do they have leftover from [INSERT IMPORTANT TIME PERIOD HERE], if at all? Did they lose them if not, or is the FW still relatively new? What's their Skitarii Legion like? What culture do they have? Are they basically Servitors, or are they closer to Guardsmen with fancy toys? What's their specialty? What're their failings? It's stuff like this that makes it a daunting task. Wouldn't have it any other way.
I got one called the Corpse Eaters, who thought they were Blood Angels successors and favored the brutality of the black rage, until they eventually learnt that they were actually World Eaters descendants where their "black rage" was just heightened anger from their lineage and the Blood Angels immediately cut all contact with them. They are ashamed of what they are and they take every opportunity to do suicidal missions for Imperium in hopes to redeem themselves in the eyes of Sanguinius. They were almost dead when they came upon the Indomitus crusade and threw their entire chapter in the fray to help Guilliman, who then gave them their Primaris reinforcement. Their chapter master is actually really close to Angron, being forces to be self-contained in a room where he focuses on painting (poorly) until they either send a recruit in to see if they survive the manic anger of him or they need him in the fray. He despise himself and the only thing keeping him sane is his entombed dreadnought brethern who guards his door that he talks to for advice as they can't be easily killed by his bouts of rage.
I made a home brew chapter and ended up making a chaos force for them to fight ultimately getting knights houses (home brew) for each side culminating in the tyranids attacking both of them. Keep working at it and you can build your own mini universe a corner of the ip to yourself
I liked this a lot and the Chapter in a sentence stuff is how a few of my own homebrews start as well. While Space Marine specific I do think it can be applied to a lot of other factions as well.
I think another way to cheat with wanting a Chapters that utilize the traits of multiple cannon Chapters. You can chose which Capture they heil from, but say they have picked up on the culture, techniques or lessons of another Chapter. I guess almost similar to what the Crimson Fists do. Being successors of the Imperial Fists, but having a lot of traits similar to the Ultra Marines.
I want to thank you for this video! As someone who’s fairly new to the franchise, this has helped a lot with the “creation” of my own chapter and the nuisances there in. I sincerely appreciate this upload!
I've been struggling so much where to start for my own homebrew since homebrew seems to be seen so poorly where I've looked, so this is SO HELPFUL! Now the hardest part, finding other homebrews to make interconnected lore with lol😂
This has helped me a lot, as I’ve recently gotten back into Warhammer and decided to make my own homebrew. I always loved the Space Marines but none of the official chapters really appealed to me. I love seeing all of the creative comments!
This has helped a lot guys! Thank you so much I’ll probably submit my fan chapter for y’all’s series. And I’ll try to make ‘em great for everyone to enjoy!
I took different approach. I found Dark Angels Succesors Chapter that I liked collor scheme, but information about them is almost nothing. We only know where they are. So I decided to make some lore myself. Chapter master was one of the BladeGuards from original Dark Angels Chapter, but he and 3 other blade guards were send to guide and to lead them. After some time one of the bladeguards was mortally wounded, so they put him into Dreadnought. If someone want to know, they are called Cowled Wardens and they are probably from ultima founding
The nutshell test works for guard too! For example, space Condotierri who go around plugging gaps in the imperium’s defenses so that the guard can fight elsewhere.
I've got an idea for a home-brew chapter. An Astartes chapter descended from the Black Shields(space marines who scoured all heraldry from there armor and left their legion. They could be loyalist, they could traitor, or any mix of ideals thereof.) I like this Idea not only because it gives you the basis for a insanely old chapter, with the potential for any mix of lineage and battle doctrine, as well as not much surrounding lore, but just enough to make a sound foundation for a story. Any thoughts?
This video is amazing! I went through several ideas for successor chapters and characters until I settled on what I liked. It took me nearly a year to figure out what you explained in 14 minutes, bravo!
Making a successor chapter was the thing that got me so invested into the hobby. I’m still working on the finer points of mine months after I started. Mine’s called The Hellbenders. They are a Salamanders successor chapter and named after the hellbender, the largest salamander in North America. They specialize in vehicles and heat-based weaponry such as plasma, flamers, and melta. The broad theme of the chapter has changed as I go along, and so has the paint scheme, but the current version is a combination of a Mesoamerican theme and an ice world meant to mirror Nocturne. I really like the dragon theme of the Salamanders and I feel that it’s an under-utilized aspect of their design. I really like kitbashing and proxy models so I use a dragon mini as a proxy for a Brutalis Dreadnought. I’ve named it Xol, which is a reference to the Aztec god Xolotl who wasn’t depicted as a dragon or even a serpent but he is the source of the name axolotl which is both one of my favourite animals and a member of the salamander species, so I felt it fits pretty well.
I don’t play marines but I figured I should try my hand at making a chapter: The Diving Wyverns are an experimental chapter, combining geneseed from the salamanders and blood angels in an attempt to cure the black rage. It worked, kinda, instead of slowly losing their minds overtime, upon the geneseed being implanted, the marine is filled with an omnipresent rage directed towards any and everyone who would harm innocent civilians. Combine that and their unique method of flame based and jump pack based style of warfare, and they make a terrifying foe. Their colors are inspired by Rathalos and Rathian from Monster Hunter, with ground troops and tanks being a dark green color and jump pack troops and aircraft being red. Lieutenants wear a faded pink color or faded blue color, and captains are either silver for ground captains and gold for jump pack captains.
This was really helpful. I have been having trouble with where to start and what to do exactly with the idea for a kriegsmen inspired chapter and this helped a lot so thanks
I’m actually in the middle of painting my homebrew Chapter, but I’m still trying to flesh out their lore. I do have their name and a flaw in their Gene Seed. They’re called the “Withered Talons,” and they suffer from a Gene Flaw known in their Chapter as the “Frailty.” Basically what this flaw does is after Gene Seed implantation is complete, an aspirant begins to undergo decades of aging all at once in under a single minute. You could go from 20 years old to 70-80 years in the blink of an eye. You still retain your Astartes traits, but some of your extra organs might not work, and your bones can ache. Sometimes the flaw won’t occur right after implantation, sometimes it can happen to you later in the future. At worst, it can happen in the heat of battle. Hitting you like a train. Some are safe from the flaw, but a majority of them suffer from it. A cultural trait they have is that the warriors of the Chapter have stronger brotherly bonds, and really look out for each other. And because of their flaw, they look to their Apothecary marines for help. In fact, the title of Apothecary is a rank the Withered Talons consider the highest honor.
Idea: a space-born chapter renowned for their diaspora across the galaxy and rumored to be over 1000 Marines (BT set-up). Now subvert; due to the modi operandis of the chapter it IS true they have over a thousand as each group replenishes forces while on campaign. But make it a problemnthey care about. Every 50 years or something the chapter gathers to take on the "Tithing Campaign". The number of marines the chapter (couple dozen or over a hundred) over isnsent on crusade to die. Sacrifice for the Imperium in Wild Space. Decent trope but controls the chapter’s overall power.
Chapter's Apothecaries workin' overtime collecting all this geneseed 😭 Make for a very interesting idea, seems like the perfect force to be a part of a campaign holding back something like the denizens of the Maelstrom
I'd say go renegade chapter then chaos warband it creates a nice through line showing how a chapter may misalign with the imperium and eventually fall into chaos.
The idea I had was for a homebrew legion called the Storm Chasers. They would have their origins as part of an existing loyalist legion (haven't decided which one yet), who were on their way to help Big Emps fend off the traitor legions, but got caught in a warp storm and spat out once the events of the Heresy had already long played out. Now they dedicate their time to studying warp storms and fighting demons, to try and find a way of utilising a warp storm to go back to the Heresy times and help the Emperor.
Homebrew EVERYTHING. Sisters? Homebrew. Forge world? Homebrew. Hivefleet? Homebrew. Tau Sept? Homebrew. Chaos warband? Homebrew. It's not just for the classics Space Marines and Imperial Guard.
Been making my own Chapter recently, this was super helpful! EDIT: I ended up scrapping the original idea, as I found it a bit cliche and too ambitious to make an entirely new Legion. So I instead decided on a Loyalist Chapter made from the geneseed of Horus. They're known as the Prodigal Sons, their colors being black, with silver on their right pauldron and arm. Their symbol is a bleeding wolf, which I'll get into the symbolism of in a sec. Official records declare them as being part of the Second Founding, as an offshoot of the Blood Angels. Though notably, they do not share any of the traditions of the Blood Angels, nor do they suffer from the Black Rage or Red Thirst. This is also matcehd by a lack of the colors associated with their original Chapter. It's believed that this is what led to them gaining their name, that centuries ago, they performed some deed that saw them cast out of the Sanguinary Brotherhood, and made outcasts. In reality, they are descended from the few Sons of Horus who survived defying their genefather, fighting alongside the Archtraitor's closest brother, Sanguinius, and his Blood Angels. Following the Heresy, Sanguinius had ensured that one of his final requests be that these loyal Sons of Horus be spared. To protect them from the more...zealous Primarchs and Chapters, Robute Guilliman saw to it that the Chapter would be officially a successor of the Blood Angels. The Prodigal Sons have never been the finest Space Marine Chapter. Due to the rumors surrounding their supposed exile from the Brotherhood, few other Chapters wish to associate with them. Finding new recruits and acquiring equipment is a difficult task, leading to them being undermanned and using old, worn equipment. In fact, their color scheme was simply because the resources needed to make black and grey pigments are plentiful, especially in the industrial hiveworlds they often recruit from. This lack of resources left the Chapter with extremely poor discipline and morale, Companies often breaking apart into scattered pockets in larger formations. They nearly faced extinction, in the last three centuries of the 41st Millenium. The Chapter MAster, desperate to save his Chapter from eventual ruin, accidentally opened a Chaos Gate on an Imperial World, dying in the process. The Inquisition, having long known the truth of the Chapter, and wishing to finally be rid of them without breaking the writ protecting them, sent the Chapter on a penitent crusade, hoping that they would break against the Archenemy. Somehow, however, the Chapter would succeed in sealing the Chaos Gate, thanks to the brilliant tactics of a relatively new Astartes, Matthias Caecus, who would later emerge as the new Chapter Master. Matthias would lead the Chapter out of ruin. He would reopen an alliance with the Blood Angels, organize the Prodigal Sons into an effectiv, combined arms force, and lead them during the Desolation of Baal. When Guilliman returned, the Sons were some of the first to volunteer to become Primaris Marines, with Matthias himself being the first of his brother's.
I want to mention a slight caveat to this as well. Make your marines (or the bulk of them at least) part of the same battle company in an established chapter. The is pretty much no chapter in lore that actually fleshes out who is in the say third or fourth company with only a few exception (Uriel Ventris, etc). This gives a tone of flexibility to build out personality, victories, traditions, and lore while never really impacting canon and you still get all the support of playing an established chapter, if that is something that appeals to you. Obviously this means you want be able to make your own chapter master and Terminators and the like will be from the first company, but this can sort of be a "light" version of building your own chapter from scratch.
Amazing video! This has been a massive help whilst I’ve been creating my custom chapter! Just working out who they are the successor of as I have 3 Primarchs I love but everything else I’ve sorted 👍
When I started 40k I got a bunch of firstborn with a firstborn captain. When I gradually transitioned to primaris I made a point to recreate him in primaris. The only problem was their was no option for chapter master with power fist and power sword so the old chapter master was now in a dreadnought and the new chapter master carried on with his specific war gear. Sometimes the modeling journey defines the story of your chapter.
Making marines is not hard as a color scheme and which successors they are, but the lore is the hardest part. I have like 10 custom chapters, and have only done the barest lore for just 1 of them, it is that difficult, but this video helped.
Ive been making a homebrew chapter idea with my partner, in which a successor that is involved in many mercy missions and defense of hive worlds has developed a very interesting reading of the Imperial Creed and Imperial Truth, interpreting the imperium and the emperor as entities or concepts that cannot be seperated from one another in any definable sense, and that to love the imperium and its citizens are more noble than to love the emperor
I created a custom chapter that is designed to be, on the surface, greedy, obnoxious, and loud but in reality they're sneaky, duplicitous, and underhanded.
I have a general idea for what I wanna do for my Chapter, but I wasn't sure what to do as far as the lore and stuff. I'll definitely take some notes and do some reading lol. Maybe I'll submit my chapter for your series, to get some constructive criticism. I'm new to the table top stuff, so I wanna try and get it right lol
I've been trying to make a Space Marine chapter for ages now, and while I've had lots of ideas I've never been able to make something I've been happy with, so I keep ending up back at the drawing board. Incidentally, back during 9ths custom sub-faction days I randomly rolled some traits and a lineage, then thought up a name and made a small lore blurb for them, they're not super fleshed out but if you wanted them for your homebrew chapters series, both because I'm curious how you would expand on their basic ideas, and maybe to sorta put them up for “adoptation” amongst yalls viewers I'd love to share them.
So, I feel it is very important to include a unique flaw in your home brew chapters alongside unique beneficial traits. Extra credit if you can tie their greatest strengths to their greatest weaknesses in this regard.
A friend and I came up with one: The Blood Wardens, founded with recovered pre-Heresy Blood Angels gene seed. Their home planet of Baphon was cut off from the rest of the galaxy by a warp rift right after the Drop Site Massacre, and the detachment of Blood Angels stationed there were assumed lost. When the Great Rift opened, the rift surrounding Baphon closed, and the Imperium Nihilus discovered there was a single surviving Sanguinary Priest who had been faithfully guarding the population of Baphon and the gene seed of his fallen brothers.
I want to clarify that I mean "surviving" Sanguinary Priest pretty loosely. Astartes were never meant to live so long, and many of his gene seed implants have either begun to fail or have already failed entirely, leaving him so far from fighting condition that it has disappeared over the horizon. The people of Baphon stepped up and now they protect him.
I've got 2 custom chapters. (So far) The Stormspear Sentinels are an Imperial Fists successor that is basically space Rohan, with a historical inspiration from Anglo-Saxon and Norse culture. Created to guard against horrors from the Halo Stars in the western side of the galaxy. The other, the Gorgons Resplendent, are a fleet-based Iron Hands successor that flips the hatred of weakness thing, only hating those who choose weakness. "The Flesh Is Weak, but it can be made strong." Their chapter master's name is also Klaus.
I’ve always found to make a Chapter you need an internal tension. Like Blood Angels have the black rage. Space Wolves have Wulfen. Even Ultramarines have a their wild cards who defy the Codex. I had great success making a Chapter who were half Emperor worshippers, half secular warriors. My Storm Heralds ended up having a civil war over the matter.
I have an entire homebrew trio of space marine chapters that all work together to guard a region of space called the Hartham Expanse. The thunder mammoths, a white scars successor who favor heavy armor and siege assaults. The crimson seraphs, an Ultima blood angel successor who drink the blood of their enemies to learn their plans. And the venom drakes, a cursed founding chapter rumored to be a chimeric geneseed of salamander and death guard who possess a mutation that causes their betchers glands to produce larger quantities of acidic saliva as well as spit it considerably farther than normal. The thunder mammoths were once the sole protectors of the Hartham Expanse, but have since been reinforced by their brother chapters and now the three seek to reclaim the region for the impeirum in the wake of the great rift opening. I love writing homebrew lore. Have several imperial guard regiments too and 2 other space marine chapters unrelated to the three mentioned.
Thank you for this, I've started work on a Marine Company myself that in a nutshell are all platoon leaders. their numbers were reduce vastly in an early battle in their history and they've been forced to rely on a lot of chapter serfs for combat positions. This eventually spiralled into a culture where marines are leading full blown platoons of serfs and when fighting side by side with guardsman, any strays they find. They're a fleet based chapter who's method of recruiting involves poaching cadet regiments of promising officer recruits and putting them through the test to see if they have the stuff it takes. Its created a really interested dynamic of semi-immortal warriors leading young men into battle and balancing their safety against the completion of the mission, and it becomes real notable when the marine dies leaving his platoon leaderless.
I am very, very new to Warhammer (Like, I genuinely know extremely little but I still love it) and I want to make Scottish Salamanders, in a nutshell. Going with the vague cheatcode, they honestly dont know who their geneseed comes from, but it could be Ferrus Manus, Vulkan, or both, or neither, they really have no way of knowing. They will commonly rebuild themselves as much as possible to continue fighting, focusing more on juggernauts than tanks, because want to see the whites of their enemies eyes as they die. So to speak. There is a heavy focus on cybernetics, enough that they are relatively dependent on the AdMech, and have more Mech Marines than most chapters. Their particular bugbear is Nurgle, and they will go out of their way to fight off his forces, ignoring orders if they must, whenever they arrive. They hold great feasts on their Battle-Monastery, which is the ship they fly from place to place, since they have no homeworld to call their own.
I'm working on creating a chapter called "Triceps Pernicies" (Three Headed Knights) who are probably Alpha Legion Primaris marines, but the Administratum has them listed as Ravens Guard successors, but they have claimed descent from Ultramarines, Salamanders, and White Scars at various points. The only thing known for sure is that they operate in 20 five man units per company, instead of the normal 10 ten man units. And each company tends to have a wide variety of units, with no real specializations, except for the First company, who all Veterans or Dreadnoughts.
Mine is the Emperors Lament,they no longer believe the Emperor is alive and only operate on orders before the Emperor got killed, they also have a habit of visiting worlds and informing people of the emperors passing on saturday mornings. Their colors are left half orange and right half purpe to symbolise anger and grief.
Ive been working on an idea for about two weeks now for an ultima founding chapter that has no certain geneseed, especially since cawl was having a LOT of fun messing with things lol. They were en route to help out in some battle but warp shenanigans happened and they ended up stranded on a swamp/wetlands planet fighting demons and a good chunk of their chapter that got corrupted, they ended up getting close with the hunter culture locals and taking up their tracking and hit and run techniques to take advantage of their small numbers, they started wearing the bones and pelts of the creatures they would hunt (mainly giant snakes inspired by the spiny bush viper atm but working on more variety.) They repainted their armor earthy colors, mainly green with tan and am earthy brown red color, and started using spears and supressed weapons, they have bright orange snake like eyes that can see heat signatures as well. And they typically fight using their heavier units to draw attention then using their snipers and reivers to flank, after a bit they were found and began replenishing their numbers using the planets population but they are still small and use minimal vehicles so they are typically used as a strike force or backup unit, still working on the name but im considering adding some very minor predator influence like arm blades
Came up with one myself with the main idea being how i could get techmarines to be able to get ork tech to work, this meant they would need a waaaggghh effect of some kind. I present, the Urruks, a thousand-sons geneseed successor from the ultramar founding that cawl specifically grew to be able to use the natural inclination towards psykers to create a passive psychic field between the marines of the chapter, side-effects include crude speach and being overly fond with green.
That just sounds like discount orks in armor, and its also from a traitor legion with vague explenation and no real justification, minus points for that
This helped a lot as I’ve been struggling with creating my own oc for this. I totally forgot about me being able to have multiple characters haha. Thank you shower thoughts
My homebrew went missing in the warp and came out years later. Lost majority of the chapter which were firstborn but only survived with a few squads. When they came out of the warp the instantly got a call for help from a near by planet. After helping and proving they actually survived the warp they got new primaris troops. That's about what I got so far 😂.
alright, I may as well share mine. All I have for certain is just the bare-bones. Name: the Imperium's wall Color scheme: White, Turquoise, and a metal accent (Yet to be established) Basic background: The original Imperium's wall was a Sucessor chapter of the third Founding, who tragically got wiped out in a collosal Waargh in the early 35th Millenium. When the Ultima founding happened, they were remade from scratch. They are fleet-based, and specifically go around the imperium doing the dirty work. They're the ones organising fortress defences, preparing killboxes, and negotiating terms with the local forgeworlds, acting as a sorta 'guiding hand' for planetary defence forces. Due to this, they keep very close ties to a lot of guard regiments and forge worlds. Rumors have it they also have close ties to the Farsight Enclaves, several Aeldari Craftworlds & Vottann Leagues, although these rumors cannot be confirmed at this current date. Fighting style: Flexible. Leans towards armored vehicles.
2:02 For example i homebrew black rage in my iron hands successor by giving them a berserker trait they got from their long campaign during the Horus heresy under medusson
I’ve personally thought of two, but I’ve only really been building and painting one. The first is the Sons of Agenas, which is really more a thought experiment about how my heresy iron warriors grand company would evolve after they split and blew each other apart in a minor part of the heresy. The sons would, after hundreds of years of minimal contact from either the imperium and their gene father, gradually become less shitty to each other and adopt some of the cultural touchstones of the Agenans. The imperium would then find them, see a chapter of space marines they didn’t recognize and seemed cagey about their origins, flip a coin, and label them ultramarine successors. The second were the Knights of Caliban. A perhaps presumptive name, the knights were a far flung element of the dark angels that kept to their more traditional structure and paint scheme. Effectively an excuse to paint my dark angels black, they maintain the many orders dedicated to specific kinds of warfare, as well as the fire and dreadwings. They’re less cagey than most dark angels, but that’s mostly in the fact that only most of any given force will abandon a war zone at any given time, rather than all of it.
Well, here goes... In a nutshell, definitely not Alpha Legion, we promise, these rejected aspirants are just serfs, not undercover agents to support the marines, we swear.
My homebrew boys, the Charnel Wolves, are a chimera geneseed of the Blood Angels and Night Lords. They of course only know their lineage to the Blood Angels, and have fought alongside other chapters of the Blood Angels. The ferocity with which they fight against other Astartes is reminiscent of the Pre-Sanguinius Blood Angels, but against baseline humans or cultists of any kind, very psychological/terror warfare. I have a fuck ton more lore written down, but that’s a general idea.
“In a nutshell my homebrew SM are the real sons of the Phoenix, but they are both 3rd and 7th hybrid legion geneseed with expanded AU* lore.” Kinda wanted to test out the last part of the video. I think mine works!
I know this is a bit weird, but what or how, would you do approaching a custom Space Marine legion? I've got an idea and narrative set up already, but I was wondering whether it would be a better idea to crunch that down to a chapter.
This is a tough one to answer. Personally I wouldn't be anywhere near brave enough to undertake making a custom legion, unless I was working on a whole custom AU to go with it (which would grant a LOT more freedom), that being said, if you don't care about pushback from other homebrewers just go wild. But if you want others to see it and partake with you I'd take a look at the Heresy Era Black Shields and maybe feed your homebrew legion into them? I don't know if it would be better to crunch it down into a chapter - but it WOULD be a lot easier
@@astartesanonymous Thanks! I know that getting a lot of pushback would be unavoidable, but considering the massive hole GW have made, an AU where this one wasn't obliterated would work well. The reason why I think it would be more interesting than a chapter is that another Legion could shake up the events of the Timeline so much. At worst, I could crunch them down to a chapter with some Chimeric geneseed, but yeah I'll keep this advice in mind!
I actually had the idea of a chapter hailing from the 'Cursed Founding'. They would be the result of an experiment to mix Imperial Fist- and Raven Guard-Geneseed, which created Space Marines specialised in defensive guerrilla warfare. As they are 'cursed', half of them would turn renegade after being accused of treacherous actions, and the loyalists would lose track of them. But about the time of th Opening of the Great Rift a loyalist company would find the renegades fighting alongside an Imperial Guard Regiment and three Knight Freeblades against a large Chaos Warband, and seeing they are still loyalist, would join them in the fight, driving the traitors back but losing the world to the Rift with just a few Marines, guardsmen and one Freeblade escaping.
Im beyond exited for the warband video. Ive been working working on my own warband consisting of marines from all the Trefoil legions. Having started as an alpha legion warband that follows the vision of their captain, turned demon prince. To bring the forces of the 3 headed hydra togerher, by bringing the trefoil legions together. Their first true success in this was in late m35 when when they gained access to Salamanders geneseed through a plot put in motion during early m32. By hypno conditioning large numbers of would be aspirants on different recruitment worlds for a salamanders successor chapter. They turned would be marines into sleeper agents before their induction into the ranks of the chapter. Once it was finally time to collect on their hard work the warband descend on the chapters small fleet over one of the recruitment world. Broadcasting a single ancient song across the vox activated their sleepers who joined the song on their own secured vox network. Activating any remaining sleepers not wakened by the initial broadcast. A brief but decisively destructive battle insued between the still loyal sons of vulkan and the traitors. After this operation the warbands original name was forgotten, christening themselves the Awakened Sons. A remnant of the salamanders successor chapter was left to roam and seemingly continue their duties as normal. With the exception of a single ritual added to their customs. A pilgrimage to be undertaken by those few sons deemed capable by the chapters chaplains and apothecaries. Sending those chosen either alone or in groups of no more than 3, into the void on a mission known only to them. Ensuring the Awakened Sons a steady supply of new members for eternity as they see it. The ritual of Jormungandr (the serpent eating its own tail) being deemed a success a much more elaborate version of it was deployed against a space wolves successor chapter. Fulfilling the warbands vision and finally allowing them to embark on their true mission. What ever that ends up being.
I've been playing since 2004 and since then I've fleshed out a Chaos warband, a space marine chapter, a traitor guard regiment and a sisters of battle order. The recent Arks of Omen arc has provided a great opportunity to gel these groups together into a single story.
I created my own Chapter which are called the Gray Hussars, a young Chapter created in the 26th founding. The Officers were drawn from the Black Templars during the founding with a Castellan of Knights of Dorn being torn from his chapter to lead a new Chapter of the Sons of Dorn. The Chapter would soon be molded and adopt the culture of Ancient Terra's German Kingdoms with different portions of the Chapter resembling different German subcultures but leaning on Prussian Culture primarily. They are bear German Aristocratic naming conventions. They are most relatable to our World's Teutonic Order. They follow the Emperor's Cult as the Black Templars did but have a more doctrinal theology of the Emperor, His Sons and his Holy Spirit (yes they are basically Space Catholics too) and have several sacred sacraments of their faith to the Emperor. They are on a perpetual crusade to secure the Saras Sector of Space which they were tasked of Garrisoning by the High Lord's of Terra when they were founded. Because of this they don't abide by the Codex Astartes and are far above the standard chapter limit and have made allies with certain Inquisitors to cover up their true strength. I have several named Characters and several Campaigns of theirs written in their Wiki page if you Google "Gray Hussars" will come up.
I made a successor chapter! They are called the Aegis Valorant(or The Shields of Valor), and they are a Dark Angels successor that was heavily influenced by the Salamanders when they were still figuring themselves out. They believe preserving the citizens of the imperium is the point of their existance, and they very much agree with what Guilliman said to Dante during the devastation of Baal. The Aegis Valorant have a knightly aesthetic, and they are a rapid response force that prioritizes battlefields where they can (loudly) distract foes and enable their allies to rally. The Aegis Valorants Apothecarium is much more robust than most chapters, and they even deploy human combat medics from their home world to aid any needful allies or civilians in the theater of battle.
When it comes to more than 1000 marines I recommend doing something like giving it 1 or 2 extra scout company’s or extra tech marines/chaplains make a lot more sense than both the 1000 or 2000 people go for
My chapter is the Iron Wardens. Their geneseed history is unknown, but is known to be from an early Founding. It is also known to be very robust, allowing for a wide variety of recruitment worlds and rapid recruitment at that. Codex Compliant in the most part, they differ in that their first company organizes in a manner similar to Deathwatch Killteams (my excuse to use them as as DW at times). On a doctrinal level they are much like the Raptors chapter in that results come before honor or glory. If an Ork Warboss can be taken out with an artillery strike or a snipers bullet rather than a dangerous close assault, they will do it. "Tales of glory and honor are for the bards to sing after the battle is won." Civilian casualties are not acceptable. Guardsmen lives OTOH are to be spent, but only in the most efficient of manners. Still working on it.
It might be “the law” so to speak to have no more than 1,000 battle company marines but my homebrew was able to somewhat waiver it to 1,200 by having strict regulations on the technology they could use. For instance, my Astartes were not allowed to have power weapons, Land Raiders, or Terminator suits to act as a balance for the additional power those extra 200 Marines provided. They were also required to send many more battle brothers to the Death Watch so they even if “something happened” with the chapter such as went traitor, a big number of them would be away from the main body of it and therefore wouldn’t be able to support their brothers (plus they’d be surrounded & easily killed by marines from other chapters).
Honestly, I always kinda wanted to make a hardcore chivalry knight chapter with their chapter master being a Dreadnought they wake up to consult battle plans, and for just general advice.
I have several custom space marine chapters, but my favorite are by far the Crimson Hounds. They’re a World Eaters chapter that is semi-codex compliant and constantly struggle with their inner violent nature, and unfortunately for them, a certain Ordo Hereticus Lord Inquisitor knows their origin, and holds that knowledge over their heads, basically using them as her personal attack dogs, sending them on campaigns they’d prefer to not fight. Also their 2nd Company Captain has a giant sword made out of the armor plate of a warship. They’re basically trying to fight against their dark fate, trying to protect civilians and do “good”, but their inquisitor handler constantly gives them shitty postings, basically trying to get them to fall, but they’ve persevered through it.
I'm currently still fleshing out mine, but I have a pretty good idea of who they are. I named mine the "Mariana Casetellans". They are a former fleet-based chapter of Imperial Fist stock who centuries ago were gifted the Ocean World "Mariana" as a reward in their efforts to stop an Ork Waaagh. from destroying the system. They have completely adopted the world as their own and care incredibly deeply for it and its people. They are expert borders and siege breakers/breakthrough makers, as well as having the unique task of often occupying conquered worlds until greater administrative presence can be established (they are good at this due to dealing with smugglers and pirates). Think space riot cops/swat/ mixed with that animation of the Iron Warriors fucking up Dukhari. They also, while being close range, prefer ranged weaponry to melee if possible, though will use the two as needed. Their focus on breakthroughs, boarding actions, and policing means they tend to prefer more compact weapons, which means that any melee they do use tends to be things like power swords, fists, and the like, things that can be used in relatively tight corridors. When their chapter was created, they managed to find an old imperial stockpile that included large amounts of siege weapons, specifically grav guns and close range weapons, alongside old Siege Shields. These shields have been modified to fit the needs of the chapter, increasing or decreasing in size and protection as needed These play a large element into their fighting style and it is uncommon to see one of them without some sort of shield on their person, though it is not always in use and brought out more when needed. They work best in close to medium range combat, but struggle with longer range engagements. They also are unique in that they will never work alone if they can help it. This includes fights. They do not get in duels solo, with two marines joining each other to fight together. They also do not have one chapter master, but two who communicate with a council made up of their company captains. The masters hold equal authority most of the time, but during large scale crusades or deployments where the entire chapter is needed, one will be given overall command for the duration to simplify orders. Part of the culture of the chapter is "shared glory." This does not mean that they don't encourage individuals to gain glory, they do, but they believe that the best kind of glory is that which is gained with others. These can include their battle brothers, but also other imperials including guardsmen. Essentially, work to ensure that not only you do great, but the guys next to, behind, and in front of you do great as well. They recruit from Mariana, and the process is actually similar to the Ultramarines (due to the planet being right on the borders with ultramar and a trade hub), having various academies and military schools that they look over to pick the cream of the crop. Keeps their initiate numbers well stocked. Though they do have a fall with their gene seed that means it doesn't always form in a marine, which means that their stock is relatively limited. Their casualty rates are rather low despite their specialization, but every marine killed is a major blow both to the morale of the chapter as well as its physical resources, so its apothecaries try ESPECIALLY hard to keep marines alive and functioning. I also had it so that they have a very close relationship to the Void Tridents due to sharing a specialization with them and living nearby. Though they admit that the Void Tridents are the superior boarders, while the tridents respect their siege abilities.
When I made my Dark Angel's successor chapter, I basically boiled them down the same way "Dark Angels who don't care as much about the fallen." Something like that can really springboard you to something more evolved. My homebrew cares about the Fallen, but they simply refuse to completely abandon a campaign because of them. I decided to give them a prejudice against the Iron Hands (just because they're my least favorite loyalists) that evolved to despising the mechanicus and refusing to use techmarines, making their equipment outdated and relying on my nearby homebrew knight house to provide them with materiels under the table. They also have more than 1000 marines, BUT thats only because a marine missing a limb can't fight, so they take up the duties of maintaining their fortress and equipment. So they aren't technically part of the chapter anymore, plus Dark Angels are really good at keeping their secrets.
i think the only real benchmark for creating a custom chapter is just how serious you want other people to take it. if you’re fine with other people thinking your chapter are stupid lore breaking mary sues they yeah go ahead
I've been intermittently developing a Renegade Space Marine... group? Chapter? If I was to In-a-Nutshell them, I think it'd be... Basically a blend of Salamanders and Raven Guard who've become a client state of some group of Tau in exchange for equipment resupply. The longer history I've got so far is a group of Marines taking charge of a small sector of Imperial planets that were isolated from the wider galaxy and basically under constant siege for at least a few hundred years. Desperately in need of resupply and reinforcements, and with Raven Guard-like pragmatism blending with Salamander-like commitment to the duty to their wards, they bargained with the first potentially friendly force to contact them, which were Gue'vesa. While I'm uncertain if it makes sense for this to be the Tau proper or a splinter group, they had enough industrial capacity to provide equipment. I'm still playing around with stuff, but it's mostly an excuse to equip marines with Tau toys. I love the name I gave them, though, Phoenix Sons. It has the fire of the Salamanders, the bird for Raven Guard, and the rebirth motif, given it's a name they adopt after the Imperium labels them as traitors.
Again, Phoenix is Fulgrim, using Phoenix as a name immedietly makes it sound like emperors children successor, and while they could fight “with” the Tau, you need to remember that they never can fight “for” the Tau, especially so against the imperium, but yea, thaught about it myself but never quite got the lore explanation nor the geneseed
I have an idea of a chapter of “blood angels” but their gene seed is world eaters and the chapter master somewhat get gets the primarch power despite having the nails but at an extreme cost to his health, just like talos from the night lords, and it goes to a passing of a torch of him dying and looking upon the new chapter master of his choosing who doesn’t know of their gene seed origins and fully believes that their a blood angel chapter and the old master passes on dying with that knowledge and his rage that burdened him will die with him and he’s satisfied with the possible future of this chapter being far different then his original legion
The hawks sanguine are blood angels successors with a lot of breachers and terminators. Chapters stated life goal is to steal abbadons flagship. Iscarion Knox is first captain, imagine lemartes in grey knights armor built like tyberos and you aren't far off knox's status. The hawks don't really have a chapter master, getting the whole fleet together to elect one is about as hard as herding carnifex. Forge master nihlus runs there only serious permanent installation. The atlas skyhooks over arcathea quintus. So by technicality the forge master is frequently acting chapter master and liaison with the 2.3million fanatical nuns that call quintus home. Knox could claim the job as he commands the largest vessel in the fleet but that smells suspiciously like paperwork, which he doesn't want any more of. The hawks have four technically flagships, old guard, which appears to be a Gloriana class battleship, that helms the largely admech / sororitas supported subsector defense fleet, lament in red & edge in crimson that are a pair of battle barges that concerningly have heraldry that isn't hawks sanguine if you know where to look and the blade of night, which is a dark age monster that the hawks were allowed to keep only so long as they permitted a mechanicus liaison garrison to study it in perpetuity as negotiated by rogal dorn before he dipped off to where ever he went. Much like the legion they're founded from the hawks go wherever. Unlike the blood angels we don't have anything nearly as important as the tomb of sanguinius to defend, The hawks tend to recruit by poaching schola progenium, and recycling washouts back through the schola, where they usually graduate top of the class and then end up as void born, (tempestus scions/chapter serfs deployed to odd jobs, boot work)
Would be fun to see a "create a traitor chapter" video as well
Don't worry we've got that covered!
can't wait,@@astartesanonymous
@@astartesanonymous cant wait for that
Build a bear but build a chapter😂
Even easier. There are two legions that were erradicated. Could even create a traitor primarch
I did have a idea for a loyalist Space marine chapter. The Nova Watch, Marines who’s geneseed is of salamander origin and they target specifically cults of nurgle and work to cleanse plague worlds, and use pykers to try and find pyschic ways to cure nurgles disease’s.
Brilliant premise! Strong foundations, solid goals in mind, great choice of enemy too.
So there basically advanced septic that’s actually kinda cool i hope they have cool septic tanks and stuff
I made a successor chapter with an unknown geneseed. They're from the Ultima founding and are called the Sundancers. They're in the 300s in total and just protect a planet from Drunkhari and daemon incursions. Their allies are a plantery defense force and a handful of Eldari.
That's a great name for a chapter, seems like an excellent premise for some kind of heroic last stand narrative
@@astartesanonymous i made few years ago for a literature campaign on forum Unseen Avengers, Third Founding (kinda) successors from Raven Guard. Descendants of nomad hunter terran fleet that returned to Imperium during Heresy, after scirmishes with traitors vanished back into wild space and was later re-discovered in remote star cluster by stray Blood Angels ship that had to make an emergency warp-exit to escape a storm. By modus operandi, not as much heroic as pragmatic and cunning. Camo, jamming of communication networks or even sudden reckorded roar of ork horde sounding through enemy comm-net. Oh, and a tradition of cuting five-edge star (symbol of chapter) on heads of slain heretic leaders.
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the eldar things pretty cool. how does primaris and unknown geneseed work though?
@@christophersalinas2722 Ask Blood Ravens, lmao.
It's amazing how much of a rabbit hole one homebrew chapter can turn into. I started out with just the Solar Spurs, my cowboy White Scars. Now I've got Macharia Eschate, an entire subsector with various regiments, planets, and so on where the theme is centered around frontiersmen from throughout history. It was then that I saw how versatile 40k really is as a setting.
That all sounds fucking awesome
@@Willothemask Thanks. It was a lot of fun to write.
That's interesting. I'd assume the subsector would be on the frontier of the Imperium if they were based off of frontier peoples from history, like cowboys and whatnot. 'Solar Spurs' is a pretty neat name. It sounds pretty campy but not so campy to me as to be unbelievable.
@@thelegate8636 could you give any more details as to the actual writing process you used to make the subsection? I'm curious because it's a pretty large thing to do.
Finally a not shitty opinion on homebrew. For real, so many of the supposedly cooler people in the hobby are very gatekeepy about homebrew so it's so nice to see someone with a following talk about it in an inclusive way. Super excited for the other videos!
I really appreciate this comment by my dude - I think the bottom-line is to have fun first, and everything else comes second.
@@astartesanonymous I completely agree! That's not a sentiment you always see in they hobby and I'm so thrilled I found your channel. All your videos make me feel welcome in the hobby!
Tbf tourist are always inserting there ideaolgy like female space marines,lgbt things(even tho they belong to slannish),Swastikas(they say it's the hindi sign) and other things that's just break the overall lore hell they always give a vague description and not just explain it fully or come up stories and characters for them
@@dirtypurplenurpl6667 As it was said, gatekeeping is lame. There's no 'to be fair' there. It's entirely true.
@inwit594 Gate keeping is a necessity for a hobby to grow because your giving the benefit a doubt to bad actor's who will use your own hobby against you and then the hobby dies and wonder what happened to the hobby maybe because of the bad actor's that the hobby is dead
I'm really enjoying these shorter non-podcast videos in addition to the usual content, it's cool seeing your channel start to branch out 👍
Thanks a lot my dude! Podcasts are still coming! In fact we've got a fun one planned for this Friday!
I’ve always had the idea of three space marines chapters who where almost destroyed coming together and forming a whole new chapter with three different lineages and traditions working together. Each keep there own traditions and making new ones. And they pick there chapter master but having the highest ranking member form each different Original chapters fight for it in a three way dual every 150 years or so.
would you mind talking a bit more about them? Do you have an idea what lineages they have?
@@henrypaleveda7760 never really thought put much into it but the Origin chapters are that of salamanders, imperial fist and a unknown one ( a mixed gene seed one). The only ideas I had for a chapter name was the triple sons or the devastated sons. There also fleet based
@@scpwatcher8289 sounds like a good sandbox to work in. between salamanders and imperial fists, what kind of craftsmanship does the legion have?
@@henrypaleveda7760 The craftsmanship is what you expect to be from a salamanders and imperial fist. But the salamanders mostly tend to weapons and armor while the imperial fist mainly deal with the ships and armor vehicles besides dreadnoughts those go to the salamanders.
This would certainly be a great way to incorporate multiple geneseeds into the chapter! Also a really good way to make a chapter that has a big jack-of-all-trades vibe like the Dark Angels often do with their Hexagrammaton
I know you guys are Space Marine Experts but it would be great to see other factions!
I love the creative power that the 40k setting can lend to homebrew.
My homebrew chapter, the Dawn Barons, are of Night Lords lineage, and instead of hiding that fact, they openly embrace it as they fight to atone for the sins of their fathers. One of the chapter's customs/traditions involves librarians (and anyone else who wishes to show the true extent of their devotion to the chapter's cause) ritually blinding themselves in imitation of the chapter master blinding himself in anguish when finding out about the chapter's true geneseed origins.
I've got two, but my favorite are the Blood Roses, which are basically my attempt at making Pretty Marines Canon.
Geneseed: Cursed founding, officially Blood Angels but some come out of the geneseed process having white hair and occasionally purple eyes. Their Chapter Master, prior to being interred into a dreadnought, is said to have looked startlingly like remembrancer depictions of Fulgrim.
Anyways, to stop beating around the bush, their geneseed is a somehow functional but cursed attempt at combining the geneseed of the Emperor's Children and the Blood Angels to create the perfect Loyalists.
There's one problem: The Inquisition fucking knows and their days are numbered unless they get the right Inquisitors on their side and fucking quickly.
They themselves also know of their cursed lineage, and do everything they can to avoid becoming like the Emperor's Children, including to killing anybody amongst their ranks who gets multiple scars on their face (Lucius, anyone?)
I think this is a REALLY strong premise and would make an excellent foundation for a short story if you ever wanted to have a crack at it. Cursed Founding is the perfect choice for a Loyalist EC/BAs wombo combo
My homebrew space marine army is supposed to be rouge remnants of the second legion that had finally showed back up in the 41st millennium.
Since I was using dark angel model’s for this army, I needed to justify them having watchers in the dark. To make a lot of bs homebrew lore short, I decided that the second primarch was a powerful blank, but his genetic flaw was that he was forever stuck as a child. This meant that whenever someone was implanted with his geneseed there was a chance for them to become a blank and stop growing as well, explaining the presence of the watcher in the dark models.
I used this bit about him being stuck as a child to help explain why he ended up getting erased from history. Essentially he was still rather naive and innocent like a child, so he ended up not being able to handle the brutality of the Great crusade. He thought if he and the eleventh primarch rebelled most of the other primarchs would join up with him, and they could do a relatively bloodless coup of his father’s imperium. This belief was quickly shattered, alongside most of the bones in his body when Lemann Russ showed up to execute him and the eleventh primarch.
In the few hours between realizing he had made some massive miscalculations in his plan and dying, he managed to get some of his legion to flee into the warp.
Once they eventually popped back out they found an Imperium even worse then the one they had rebelled against, but they had no real way to rebel against it without immediately dying. Fortunately they had popped out in the dark side of the galaxy that’s disconnected from Terra, so they had some degree of breathing room.
So taking advantage of the fact that every record of their existence has been censored and that they are in space boonies, some of the survivors reluctantly rejoined the Imperium, mostly for the sake of fighting chaos. They made up a bs backstory to justify their existence, and most people in the dark side of the galaxy were a bit too desperate for help to question them too much.
Another bunch of them hated the Imperium even worse now and tried continuing the rebellion. They only had middling success in this, claiming five systems before being ground to halt and forced onto the defensive; essentially becoming a diet Farsight enclaves.
Then the rest of them decided to neither rejoin the imperium or fight against it, instead choosing to fly around and look for any planets in need of their aid and happily giving it; before moving since if they stay too long people might start to ask some questions about who they are and the last thing they want is attention.
The reason I had them split into three separate groups like this, is so I can easily justify any tabletop game I end up playing. And the ones that rejoined the Imperium are used to justify any game that I use primaris instead of 30k models in.
Their Legion culture is heavily based upon their Primarch’s faith in Protethism, which is basically the Protestant version of Catharicism. This has lead to the legion being very much into self sacrifice and favoring weapons usually considered dangerous to their users, like plasma weapons. They have always used very few dreadnaughts, viewing such a thing as delaying their battle brother from moving onto the afterlife, making them rather cruel in their eyes.
They are also very much into mercy and almost always offer their enemy a chance to flee before the battle begins.
During the great crusade they got along with very few of the other legions. This was due to a mix of their religious beliefs and their merciful attitudes being considered naive at best, and the large number of blanks in their legion didn’t help matters. They ended up having rivalry’s with quite other legions, like the Iron Warriors and and Deathguard, but their most intense rivalry was with the 1000 sons.
The second primarch’s home world had originally been controlled by a cabal of Tzenetchain sorcerers; which lead to him having a dislike of any sort of sorcery which was shared by his legion.
The 1000 sons on the other hand got massive headaches at best whenever around the second legion, so this caused a mutual hatred to form between the legions.
Weirdly enough, the legion had a decent enough relationship with the night lords during the great crusade. While they had major problems with the Night Lord’s methods, they were able to at least appreciate the ultimate result of less deaths.
They also got along with the Salamander’s, the Ultramarines, Raven Guard, and the eleventh legion.
In the current setting their biggest rival is the night lords, since both legions are focused on smaller fringe worlds so they frequently clash.
Their legion name is the Sons of the Lamb, with their original name before being found by their primarch was the Sons of Silence. Their original color scheme was gold and red, similar to the sisters of silence, but upon being reunited with their primarch he changed the colors to white and gold, since he thought using gold as the primary color was too excessive. The color of their right shoulder pad depends on what company they are in. First company uses light blue, second uses red, third uses purple, and fourth uses black.
If you think a Space Marine Chapter is complicated, try a Mechanicus Forge World. I've been slowly piecing together one for the better part of two years, and I'm still not done. It's hard because you have to do homebrews within homebrews, usually ones that can be entirely separate things.
Does the FW have a Titan Legion? If so, what's their culture? How many Engines do they have? What's their specialization and weakness?
What nasty things do they have leftover from [INSERT IMPORTANT TIME PERIOD HERE], if at all? Did they lose them if not, or is the FW still relatively new?
What's their Skitarii Legion like? What culture do they have? Are they basically Servitors, or are they closer to Guardsmen with fancy toys? What's their specialty? What're their failings?
It's stuff like this that makes it a daunting task. Wouldn't have it any other way.
You're a braver man than I
I got one called the Corpse Eaters, who thought they were Blood Angels successors and favored the brutality of the black rage, until they eventually learnt that they were actually World Eaters descendants where their "black rage" was just heightened anger from their lineage and the Blood Angels immediately cut all contact with them.
They are ashamed of what they are and they take every opportunity to do suicidal missions for Imperium in hopes to redeem themselves in the eyes of Sanguinius. They were almost dead when they came upon the Indomitus crusade and threw their entire chapter in the fray to help Guilliman, who then gave them their Primaris reinforcement.
Their chapter master is actually really close to Angron, being forces to be self-contained in a room where he focuses on painting (poorly) until they either send a recruit in to see if they survive the manic anger of him or they need him in the fray. He despise himself and the only thing keeping him sane is his entombed dreadnought brethern who guards his door that he talks to for advice as they can't be easily killed by his bouts of rage.
I made a home brew chapter and ended up making a chaos force for them to fight ultimately getting knights houses (home brew) for each side culminating in the tyranids attacking both of them. Keep working at it and you can build your own mini universe a corner of the ip to yourself
Would love to see this kind of video for all the factions. Make your own kabal, Necron dynasty, forge world, etc.
I liked this a lot and the Chapter in a sentence stuff is how a few of my own homebrews start as well. While Space Marine specific I do think it can be applied to a lot of other factions as well.
Well this gave me the motivates I needed to finish my homebrew chapter.
I think another way to cheat with wanting a Chapters that utilize the traits of multiple cannon Chapters. You can chose which Capture they heil from, but say they have picked up on the culture, techniques or lessons of another Chapter. I guess almost similar to what the Crimson Fists do. Being successors of the Imperial Fists, but having a lot of traits similar to the Ultra Marines.
I want to thank you for this video! As someone who’s fairly new to the franchise, this has helped a lot with the “creation” of my own chapter and the nuisances there in. I sincerely appreciate this upload!
I've been struggling so much where to start for my own homebrew since homebrew seems to be seen so poorly where I've looked, so this is SO HELPFUL!
Now the hardest part, finding other homebrews to make interconnected lore with lol😂
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This has helped me a lot, as I’ve recently gotten back into Warhammer and decided to make my own homebrew. I always loved the Space Marines but none of the official chapters really appealed to me. I love seeing all of the creative comments!
This has helped a lot guys! Thank you so much I’ll probably submit my fan chapter for y’all’s series. And I’ll try to make ‘em great for everyone to enjoy!
This is exactly what I needed man. Thank you so much
I took different approach. I found Dark Angels Succesors Chapter that I liked collor scheme, but information about them is almost nothing. We only know where they are. So I decided to make some lore myself. Chapter master was one of the BladeGuards from original Dark Angels Chapter, but he and 3 other blade guards were send to guide and to lead them. After some time one of the bladeguards was mortally wounded, so they put him into Dreadnought. If someone want to know, they are called Cowled Wardens and they are probably from ultima founding
The nutshell test works for guard too! For example, space Condotierri who go around plugging gaps in the imperium’s defenses so that the guard can fight elsewhere.
I've got an idea for a home-brew chapter. An Astartes chapter descended from the Black Shields(space marines who scoured all heraldry from there armor and left their legion. They could be loyalist, they could traitor, or any mix of ideals thereof.)
I like this Idea not only because it gives you the basis for a insanely old chapter, with the potential for any mix of lineage and battle doctrine, as well as not much surrounding lore, but just enough to make a sound foundation for a story.
Any thoughts?
This video is amazing! I went through several ideas for successor chapters and characters until I settled on what I liked. It took me nearly a year to figure out what you explained in 14 minutes, bravo!
Champion: "OUR LEGIONS NUMBER IN THE MILLIONS!"
Chapter Master: "He hand out 'Honorary Astartes' badges to kids, they like to count them."
Homebrew imperial Guard is a thing i was focusing on first...
Making a successor chapter was the thing that got me so invested into the hobby. I’m still working on the finer points of mine months after I started.
Mine’s called The Hellbenders. They are a Salamanders successor chapter and named after the hellbender, the largest salamander in North America. They specialize in vehicles and heat-based weaponry such as plasma, flamers, and melta. The broad theme of the chapter has changed as I go along, and so has the paint scheme, but the current version is a combination of a Mesoamerican theme and an ice world meant to mirror Nocturne.
I really like the dragon theme of the Salamanders and I feel that it’s an under-utilized aspect of their design. I really like kitbashing and proxy models so I use a dragon mini as a proxy for a Brutalis Dreadnought. I’ve named it Xol, which is a reference to the Aztec god Xolotl who wasn’t depicted as a dragon or even a serpent but he is the source of the name axolotl which is both one of my favourite animals and a member of the salamander species, so I felt it fits pretty well.
This was such a wonderful help. I eagerly look forward to the next videos in this series 😁
I don’t play marines but I figured I should try my hand at making a chapter:
The Diving Wyverns are an experimental chapter, combining geneseed from the salamanders and blood angels in an attempt to cure the black rage. It worked, kinda, instead of slowly losing their minds overtime, upon the geneseed being implanted, the marine is filled with an omnipresent rage directed towards any and everyone who would harm innocent civilians.
Combine that and their unique method of flame based and jump pack based style of warfare, and they make a terrifying foe.
Their colors are inspired by Rathalos and Rathian from Monster Hunter, with ground troops and tanks being a dark green color and jump pack troops and aircraft being red. Lieutenants wear a faded pink color or faded blue color, and captains are either silver for ground captains and gold for jump pack captains.
This was really helpful.
I have been having trouble with where to start and what to do exactly with the idea for a kriegsmen inspired chapter and this helped a lot so thanks
Thanks this really helps a lot!!! i was trying to create a night lord loyalist chapter and this has set some awesome guidelines for me!
I’m actually in the middle of painting my homebrew Chapter, but I’m still trying to flesh out their lore. I do have their name and a flaw in their Gene Seed. They’re called the “Withered Talons,” and they suffer from a Gene Flaw known in their Chapter as the “Frailty.” Basically what this flaw does is after Gene Seed implantation is complete, an aspirant begins to undergo decades of aging all at once in under a single minute. You could go from 20 years old to 70-80 years in the blink of an eye. You still retain your Astartes traits, but some of your extra organs might not work, and your bones can ache. Sometimes the flaw won’t occur right after implantation, sometimes it can happen to you later in the future. At worst, it can happen in the heat of battle. Hitting you like a train. Some are safe from the flaw, but a majority of them suffer from it. A cultural trait they have is that the warriors of the Chapter have stronger brotherly bonds, and really look out for each other. And because of their flaw, they look to their Apothecary marines for help. In fact, the title of Apothecary is a rank the Withered Talons consider the highest honor.
Very good video! Looking forward to the chaos warband video!
I really like the idea of choosing three characters to dump all of the chapter's powercreep into.
Idea: a space-born chapter renowned for their diaspora across the galaxy and rumored to be over 1000 Marines (BT set-up). Now subvert; due to the modi operandis of the chapter it IS true they have over a thousand as each group replenishes forces while on campaign. But make it a problemnthey care about. Every 50 years or something the chapter gathers to take on the "Tithing Campaign". The number of marines the chapter (couple dozen or over a hundred) over isnsent on crusade to die. Sacrifice for the Imperium in Wild Space.
Decent trope but controls the chapter’s overall power.
Chapter's Apothecaries workin' overtime collecting all this geneseed 😭
Make for a very interesting idea, seems like the perfect force to be a part of a campaign holding back something like the denizens of the Maelstrom
I'd say go renegade chapter then chaos warband it creates a nice through line showing how a chapter may misalign with the imperium and eventually fall into chaos.
The idea I had was for a homebrew legion called the Storm Chasers. They would have their origins as part of an existing loyalist legion (haven't decided which one yet), who were on their way to help Big Emps fend off the traitor legions, but got caught in a warp storm and spat out once the events of the Heresy had already long played out. Now they dedicate their time to studying warp storms and fighting demons, to try and find a way of utilising a warp storm to go back to the Heresy times and help the Emperor.
Homebrew EVERYTHING. Sisters? Homebrew. Forge world? Homebrew. Hivefleet? Homebrew. Tau Sept? Homebrew. Chaos warband? Homebrew.
It's not just for the classics Space Marines and Imperial Guard.
It's why you can paint your models! Make everything your own.
Been making my own Chapter recently, this was super helpful!
EDIT: I ended up scrapping the original idea, as I found it a bit cliche and too ambitious to make an entirely new Legion. So I instead decided on a Loyalist Chapter made from the geneseed of Horus.
They're known as the Prodigal Sons, their colors being black, with silver on their right pauldron and arm. Their symbol is a bleeding wolf, which I'll get into the symbolism of in a sec.
Official records declare them as being part of the Second Founding, as an offshoot of the Blood Angels. Though notably, they do not share any of the traditions of the Blood Angels, nor do they suffer from the Black Rage or Red Thirst. This is also matcehd by a lack of the colors associated with their original Chapter. It's believed that this is what led to them gaining their name, that centuries ago, they performed some deed that saw them cast out of the Sanguinary Brotherhood, and made outcasts.
In reality, they are descended from the few Sons of Horus who survived defying their genefather, fighting alongside the Archtraitor's closest brother, Sanguinius, and his Blood Angels.
Following the Heresy, Sanguinius had ensured that one of his final requests be that these loyal Sons of Horus be spared. To protect them from the more...zealous Primarchs and Chapters, Robute Guilliman saw to it that the Chapter would be officially a successor of the Blood Angels.
The Prodigal Sons have never been the finest Space Marine Chapter. Due to the rumors surrounding their supposed exile from the Brotherhood, few other Chapters wish to associate with them. Finding new recruits and acquiring equipment is a difficult task, leading to them being undermanned and using old, worn equipment. In fact, their color scheme was simply because the resources needed to make black and grey pigments are plentiful, especially in the industrial hiveworlds they often recruit from.
This lack of resources left the Chapter with extremely poor discipline and morale, Companies often breaking apart into scattered pockets in larger formations.
They nearly faced extinction, in the last three centuries of the 41st Millenium. The Chapter MAster, desperate to save his Chapter from eventual ruin, accidentally opened a Chaos Gate on an Imperial World, dying in the process. The Inquisition, having long known the truth of the Chapter, and wishing to finally be rid of them without breaking the writ protecting them, sent the Chapter on a penitent crusade, hoping that they would break against the Archenemy.
Somehow, however, the Chapter would succeed in sealing the Chaos Gate, thanks to the brilliant tactics of a relatively new Astartes, Matthias Caecus, who would later emerge as the new Chapter Master.
Matthias would lead the Chapter out of ruin. He would reopen an alliance with the Blood Angels, organize the Prodigal Sons into an effectiv, combined arms force, and lead them during the Desolation of Baal.
When Guilliman returned, the Sons were some of the first to volunteer to become Primaris Marines, with Matthias himself being the first of his brother's.
I want to mention a slight caveat to this as well. Make your marines (or the bulk of them at least) part of the same battle company in an established chapter. The is pretty much no chapter in lore that actually fleshes out who is in the say third or fourth company with only a few exception (Uriel Ventris, etc). This gives a tone of flexibility to build out personality, victories, traditions, and lore while never really impacting canon and you still get all the support of playing an established chapter, if that is something that appeals to you. Obviously this means you want be able to make your own chapter master and Terminators and the like will be from the first company, but this can sort of be a "light" version of building your own chapter from scratch.
Amazing video! This has been a massive help whilst I’ve been creating my custom chapter! Just working out who they are the successor of as I have 3 Primarchs I love but everything else I’ve sorted 👍
When I started 40k I got a bunch of firstborn with a firstborn captain. When I gradually transitioned to primaris I made a point to recreate him in primaris. The only problem was their was no option for chapter master with power fist and power sword so the old chapter master was now in a dreadnought and the new chapter master carried on with his specific war gear. Sometimes the modeling journey defines the story of your chapter.
Making marines is not hard as a color scheme and which successors they are, but the lore is the hardest part. I have like 10 custom chapters, and have only done the barest lore for just 1 of them, it is that difficult, but this video helped.
Ive been making a homebrew chapter idea with my partner, in which a successor that is involved in many mercy missions and defense of hive worlds has developed a very interesting reading of the Imperial Creed and Imperial Truth, interpreting the imperium and the emperor as entities or concepts that cannot be seperated from one another in any definable sense, and that to love the imperium and its citizens are more noble than to love the emperor
I created a custom chapter that is designed to be, on the surface, greedy, obnoxious, and loud but in reality they're sneaky, duplicitous, and underhanded.
I have a general idea for what I wanna do for my Chapter, but I wasn't sure what to do as far as the lore and stuff. I'll definitely take some notes and do some reading lol. Maybe I'll submit my chapter for your series, to get some constructive criticism. I'm new to the table top stuff, so I wanna try and get it right lol
oh what all do you have for your chapter?
I've been trying to make a Space Marine chapter for ages now, and while I've had lots of ideas I've never been able to make something I've been happy with, so I keep ending up back at the drawing board.
Incidentally, back during 9ths custom sub-faction days I randomly rolled some traits and a lineage, then thought up a name and made a small lore blurb for them, they're not super fleshed out but if you wanted them for your homebrew chapters series, both because I'm curious how you would expand on their basic ideas, and maybe to sorta put them up for “adoptation” amongst yalls viewers I'd love to share them.
So, I feel it is very important to include a unique flaw in your home brew chapters alongside unique beneficial traits. Extra credit if you can tie their greatest strengths to their greatest weaknesses in this regard.
Exactly! This exact thing is one of the key things that makes the Blood Angels so good
A friend and I came up with one: The Blood Wardens, founded with recovered pre-Heresy Blood Angels gene seed. Their home planet of Baphon was cut off from the rest of the galaxy by a warp rift right after the Drop Site Massacre, and the detachment of Blood Angels stationed there were assumed lost. When the Great Rift opened, the rift surrounding Baphon closed, and the Imperium Nihilus discovered there was a single surviving Sanguinary Priest who had been faithfully guarding the population of Baphon and the gene seed of his fallen brothers.
I want to clarify that I mean "surviving" Sanguinary Priest pretty loosely. Astartes were never meant to live so long, and many of his gene seed implants have either begun to fail or have already failed entirely, leaving him so far from fighting condition that it has disappeared over the horizon. The people of Baphon stepped up and now they protect him.
Holy shit+ you used my chapter master commission by Adrian Art at 7:04
I've got 2 custom chapters. (So far)
The Stormspear Sentinels are an Imperial Fists successor that is basically space Rohan, with a historical inspiration from Anglo-Saxon and Norse culture. Created to guard against horrors from the Halo Stars in the western side of the galaxy.
The other, the Gorgons Resplendent, are a fleet-based Iron Hands successor that flips the hatred of weakness thing, only hating those who choose weakness. "The Flesh Is Weak, but it can be made strong." Their chapter master's name is also Klaus.
I’ve always found to make a Chapter you need an internal tension. Like Blood Angels have the black rage. Space Wolves have Wulfen. Even Ultramarines have a their wild cards who defy the Codex. I had great success making a Chapter who were half Emperor worshippers, half secular warriors. My Storm Heralds ended up having a civil war over the matter.
I have an entire homebrew trio of space marine chapters that all work together to guard a region of space called the Hartham Expanse. The thunder mammoths, a white scars successor who favor heavy armor and siege assaults. The crimson seraphs, an Ultima blood angel successor who drink the blood of their enemies to learn their plans. And the venom drakes, a cursed founding chapter rumored to be a chimeric geneseed of salamander and death guard who possess a mutation that causes their betchers glands to produce larger quantities of acidic saliva as well as spit it considerably farther than normal. The thunder mammoths were once the sole protectors of the Hartham Expanse, but have since been reinforced by their brother chapters and now the three seek to reclaim the region for the impeirum in the wake of the great rift opening.
I love writing homebrew lore. Have several imperial guard regiments too and 2 other space marine chapters unrelated to the three mentioned.
Thank you for this, I've started work on a Marine Company myself that in a nutshell are all platoon leaders. their numbers were reduce vastly in an early battle in their history and they've been forced to rely on a lot of chapter serfs for combat positions. This eventually spiralled into a culture where marines are leading full blown platoons of serfs and when fighting side by side with guardsman, any strays they find. They're a fleet based chapter who's method of recruiting involves poaching cadet regiments of promising officer recruits and putting them through the test to see if they have the stuff it takes. Its created a really interested dynamic of semi-immortal warriors leading young men into battle and balancing their safety against the completion of the mission, and it becomes real notable when the marine dies leaving his platoon leaderless.
Yep, this raven guard is gonna go well.
do a video on the strongest legion based on strategies and tactics
I am very, very new to Warhammer (Like, I genuinely know extremely little but I still love it) and I want to make Scottish Salamanders, in a nutshell. Going with the vague cheatcode, they honestly dont know who their geneseed comes from, but it could be Ferrus Manus, Vulkan, or both, or neither, they really have no way of knowing. They will commonly rebuild themselves as much as possible to continue fighting, focusing more on juggernauts than tanks, because want to see the whites of their enemies eyes as they die. So to speak. There is a heavy focus on cybernetics, enough that they are relatively dependent on the AdMech, and have more Mech Marines than most chapters. Their particular bugbear is Nurgle, and they will go out of their way to fight off his forces, ignoring orders if they must, whenever they arrive. They hold great feasts on their Battle-Monastery, which is the ship they fly from place to place, since they have no homeworld to call their own.
I'm working on creating a chapter called "Triceps Pernicies" (Three Headed Knights) who are probably Alpha Legion Primaris marines, but the Administratum has them listed as Ravens Guard successors, but they have claimed descent from Ultramarines, Salamanders, and White Scars at various points. The only thing known for sure is that they operate in 20 five man units per company, instead of the normal 10 ten man units. And each company tends to have a wide variety of units, with no real specializations, except for the First company, who all Veterans or Dreadnoughts.
Mine is the Emperors Lament,they no longer believe the Emperor is alive and only operate on orders before the Emperor got killed, they also have a habit of visiting worlds and informing people of the emperors passing on saturday mornings.
Their colors are left half orange and right half purpe to symbolise anger and grief.
You could probably do a homebrew series. I would like to see an Admech homebrew.
Ive been working on an idea for about two weeks now for an ultima founding chapter that has no certain geneseed, especially since cawl was having a LOT of fun messing with things lol. They were en route to help out in some battle but warp shenanigans happened and they ended up stranded on a swamp/wetlands planet fighting demons and a good chunk of their chapter that got corrupted, they ended up getting close with the hunter culture locals and taking up their tracking and hit and run techniques to take advantage of their small numbers, they started wearing the bones and pelts of the creatures they would hunt (mainly giant snakes inspired by the spiny bush viper atm but working on more variety.) They repainted their armor earthy colors, mainly green with tan and am earthy brown red color, and started using spears and supressed weapons, they have bright orange snake like eyes that can see heat signatures as well. And they typically fight using their heavier units to draw attention then using their snipers and reivers to flank, after a bit they were found and began replenishing their numbers using the planets population but they are still small and use minimal vehicles so they are typically used as a strike force or backup unit, still working on the name but im considering adding some very minor predator influence like arm blades
Came up with one myself with the main idea being how i could get techmarines to be able to get ork tech to work, this meant they would need a waaaggghh effect of some kind.
I present, the Urruks, a thousand-sons geneseed successor from the ultramar founding that cawl specifically grew to be able to use the natural inclination towards psykers to create a passive psychic field between the marines of the chapter, side-effects include crude speach and being overly fond with green.
That just sounds like discount orks in armor, and its also from a traitor legion with vague explenation and no real justification, minus points for that
I'm gonna make my own chapter! Sentinels of the Watch.
Chaos fist please this was helpful
This helped a lot as I’ve been struggling with creating my own oc for this. I totally forgot about me being able to have multiple characters haha. Thank you shower thoughts
My homebrew went missing in the warp and came out years later. Lost majority of the chapter which were firstborn but only survived with a few squads. When they came out of the warp the instantly got a call for help from a near by planet. After helping and proving they actually survived the warp they got new primaris troops. That's about what I got so far 😂.
alright, I may as well share mine.
All I have for certain is just the bare-bones.
Name: the Imperium's wall
Color scheme: White, Turquoise, and a metal accent (Yet to be established)
Basic background: The original Imperium's wall was a Sucessor chapter of the third Founding, who tragically got wiped out in a collosal Waargh in the early 35th Millenium. When the Ultima founding happened, they were remade from scratch. They are fleet-based, and specifically go around the imperium doing the dirty work. They're the ones organising fortress defences, preparing killboxes, and negotiating terms with the local forgeworlds, acting as a sorta 'guiding hand' for planetary defence forces. Due to this, they keep very close ties to a lot of guard regiments and forge worlds. Rumors have it they also have close ties to the Farsight Enclaves, several Aeldari Craftworlds & Vottann Leagues, although these rumors cannot be confirmed at this current date.
Fighting style: Flexible. Leans towards armored vehicles.
2:02 For example i homebrew black rage in my iron hands successor by giving them a berserker trait they got from their long campaign during the Horus heresy under medusson
I’ve personally thought of two, but I’ve only really been building and painting one.
The first is the Sons of Agenas, which is really more a thought experiment about how my heresy iron warriors grand company would evolve after they split and blew each other apart in a minor part of the heresy. The sons would, after hundreds of years of minimal contact from either the imperium and their gene father, gradually become less shitty to each other and adopt some of the cultural touchstones of the Agenans. The imperium would then find them, see a chapter of space marines they didn’t recognize and seemed cagey about their origins, flip a coin, and label them ultramarine successors.
The second were the Knights of Caliban. A perhaps presumptive name, the knights were a far flung element of the dark angels that kept to their more traditional structure and paint scheme. Effectively an excuse to paint my dark angels black, they maintain the many orders dedicated to specific kinds of warfare, as well as the fire and dreadwings. They’re less cagey than most dark angels, but that’s mostly in the fact that only most of any given force will abandon a war zone at any given time, rather than all of it.
Well, here goes...
In a nutshell, definitely not Alpha Legion, we promise, these rejected aspirants are just serfs, not undercover agents to support the marines, we swear.
My homebrew boys, the Charnel Wolves, are a chimera geneseed of the Blood Angels and Night Lords. They of course only know their lineage to the Blood Angels, and have fought alongside other chapters of the Blood Angels. The ferocity with which they fight against other Astartes is reminiscent of the Pre-Sanguinius Blood Angels, but against baseline humans or cultists of any kind, very psychological/terror warfare. I have a fuck ton more lore written down, but that’s a general idea.
“In a nutshell my homebrew SM are the real sons of the Phoenix, but they are both 3rd and 7th hybrid legion geneseed with expanded AU* lore.”
Kinda wanted to test out the last part of the video. I think mine works!
I know this is a bit weird, but what or how, would you do approaching a custom Space Marine legion? I've got an idea and narrative set up already, but I was wondering whether it would be a better idea to crunch that down to a chapter.
This is a tough one to answer. Personally I wouldn't be anywhere near brave enough to undertake making a custom legion, unless I was working on a whole custom AU to go with it (which would grant a LOT more freedom), that being said, if you don't care about pushback from other homebrewers just go wild. But if you want others to see it and partake with you I'd take a look at the Heresy Era Black Shields and maybe feed your homebrew legion into them?
I don't know if it would be better to crunch it down into a chapter - but it WOULD be a lot easier
@@astartesanonymous Thanks! I know that getting a lot of pushback would be unavoidable, but considering the massive hole GW have made, an AU where this one wasn't obliterated would work well. The reason why I think it would be more interesting than a chapter is that another Legion could shake up the events of the Timeline so much. At worst, I could crunch them down to a chapter with some Chimeric geneseed, but yeah I'll keep this advice in mind!
I actually had the idea of a chapter hailing from the 'Cursed Founding'. They would be the result of an experiment to mix Imperial Fist- and Raven Guard-Geneseed, which created Space Marines specialised in defensive guerrilla warfare. As they are 'cursed', half of them would turn renegade after being accused of treacherous actions, and the loyalists would lose track of them. But about the time of th Opening of the Great Rift a loyalist company would find the renegades fighting alongside an Imperial Guard Regiment and three Knight Freeblades against a large Chaos Warband, and seeing they are still loyalist, would join them in the fight, driving the traitors back but losing the world to the Rift with just a few Marines, guardsmen and one Freeblade escaping.
Im beyond exited for the warband video. Ive been working working on my own warband consisting of marines from all the Trefoil legions.
Having started as an alpha legion warband that follows the vision of their captain, turned demon prince. To bring the forces of the 3 headed hydra togerher, by bringing the trefoil legions together.
Their first true success in this was in late m35 when when they gained access to Salamanders geneseed through a plot put in motion during early m32. By hypno conditioning large numbers of would be aspirants on different recruitment worlds for a salamanders successor chapter. They turned would be marines into sleeper agents before their induction into the ranks of the chapter. Once it was finally time to collect on their hard work the warband descend on the chapters small fleet over one of the recruitment world. Broadcasting a single ancient song across the vox activated their sleepers who joined the song on their own secured vox network. Activating any remaining sleepers not wakened by the initial broadcast. A brief but decisively destructive battle insued between the still loyal sons of vulkan and the traitors. After this operation the warbands original name was forgotten, christening themselves the Awakened Sons. A remnant of the salamanders successor chapter was left to roam and seemingly continue their duties as normal. With the exception of a single ritual added to their customs. A pilgrimage to be undertaken by those few sons deemed capable by the chapters chaplains and apothecaries. Sending those chosen either alone or in groups of no more than 3, into the void on a mission known only to them. Ensuring the Awakened Sons a steady supply of new members for eternity as they see it.
The ritual of Jormungandr (the serpent eating its own tail) being deemed a success a much more elaborate version of it was deployed against a space wolves successor chapter. Fulfilling the warbands vision and finally allowing them to embark on their true mission. What ever that ends up being.
I've been playing since 2004 and since then I've fleshed out a Chaos warband, a space marine chapter, a traitor guard regiment and a sisters of battle order. The recent Arks of Omen arc has provided a great opportunity to gel these groups together into a single story.
Kinda used this vid as a baseline to make custom lore for my adeptus custodes shield host, and tbh these guidelines are perfect
I created my own Chapter which are called the Gray Hussars, a young Chapter created in the 26th founding. The Officers were drawn from the Black Templars during the founding with a Castellan of Knights of Dorn being torn from his chapter to lead a new Chapter of the Sons of Dorn. The Chapter would soon be molded and adopt the culture of Ancient Terra's German Kingdoms with different portions of the Chapter resembling different German subcultures but leaning on Prussian Culture primarily. They are bear German Aristocratic naming conventions. They are most relatable to our World's Teutonic Order. They follow the Emperor's Cult as the Black Templars did but have a more doctrinal theology of the Emperor, His Sons and his Holy Spirit (yes they are basically Space Catholics too) and have several sacred sacraments of their faith to the Emperor. They are on a perpetual crusade to secure the Saras Sector of Space which they were tasked of Garrisoning by the High Lord's of Terra when they were founded. Because of this they don't abide by the Codex Astartes and are far above the standard chapter limit and have made allies with certain Inquisitors to cover up their true strength. I have several named Characters and several Campaigns of theirs written in their Wiki page if you Google "Gray Hussars" will come up.
I made a successor chapter! They are called the Aegis Valorant(or The Shields of Valor), and they are a Dark Angels successor that was heavily influenced by the Salamanders when they were still figuring themselves out. They believe preserving the citizens of the imperium is the point of their existance, and they very much agree with what Guilliman said to Dante during the devastation of Baal.
The Aegis Valorant have a knightly aesthetic, and they are a rapid response force that prioritizes battlefields where they can (loudly) distract foes and enable their allies to rally.
The Aegis Valorants Apothecarium is much more robust than most chapters, and they even deploy human combat medics from their home world to aid any needful allies or civilians in the theater of battle.
When it comes to more than 1000 marines I recommend doing something like giving it 1 or 2 extra scout company’s or extra tech marines/chaplains make a lot more sense than both the 1000 or 2000 people go for
My chapter is the Iron Wardens. Their geneseed history is unknown, but is known to be from an early Founding. It is also known to be very robust, allowing for a wide variety of recruitment worlds and rapid recruitment at that.
Codex Compliant in the most part, they differ in that their first company organizes in a manner similar to Deathwatch Killteams (my excuse to use them as as DW at times).
On a doctrinal level they are much like the Raptors chapter in that results come before honor or glory. If an Ork Warboss can be taken out with an artillery strike or a snipers bullet rather than a dangerous close assault, they will do it. "Tales of glory and honor are for the bards to sing after the battle is won."
Civilian casualties are not acceptable. Guardsmen lives OTOH are to be spent, but only in the most efficient of manners.
Still working on it.
3:17 Ayyyyyy!!!! Those are my bois! The Gaelic Blood Angel successor chapter aka The “Fell Blooded” 🤘🏻🩸
It might be “the law” so to speak to have no more than 1,000 battle company marines but my homebrew was able to somewhat waiver it to 1,200 by having strict regulations on the technology they could use. For instance, my Astartes were not allowed to have power weapons, Land Raiders, or Terminator suits to act as a balance for the additional power those extra 200 Marines provided. They were also required to send many more battle brothers to the Death Watch so they even if “something happened” with the chapter such as went traitor, a big number of them would be away from the main body of it and therefore wouldn’t be able to support their brothers (plus they’d be surrounded & easily killed by marines from other chapters).
What is your opinion on if the emperor had a tts device?
Honestly, I always kinda wanted to make a hardcore chivalry knight chapter with their chapter master being a Dreadnought they wake up to consult battle plans, and for just general advice.
I have several custom space marine chapters, but my favorite are by far the Crimson Hounds. They’re a World Eaters chapter that is semi-codex compliant and constantly struggle with their inner violent nature, and unfortunately for them, a certain Ordo Hereticus Lord Inquisitor knows their origin, and holds that knowledge over their heads, basically using them as her personal attack dogs, sending them on campaigns they’d prefer to not fight. Also their 2nd Company Captain has a giant sword made out of the armor plate of a warship.
They’re basically trying to fight against their dark fate, trying to protect civilians and do “good”, but their inquisitor handler constantly gives them shitty postings, basically trying to get them to fall, but they’ve persevered through it.
I'm currently still fleshing out mine, but I have a pretty good idea of who they are. I named mine the "Mariana Casetellans". They are a former fleet-based chapter of Imperial Fist stock who centuries ago were gifted the Ocean World "Mariana" as a reward in their efforts to stop an Ork Waaagh. from destroying the system. They have completely adopted the world as their own and care incredibly deeply for it and its people.
They are expert borders and siege breakers/breakthrough makers, as well as having the unique task of often occupying conquered worlds until greater administrative presence can be established (they are good at this due to dealing with smugglers and pirates). Think space riot cops/swat/ mixed with that animation of the Iron Warriors fucking up Dukhari. They also, while being close range, prefer ranged weaponry to melee if possible, though will use the two as needed. Their focus on breakthroughs, boarding actions, and policing means they tend to prefer more compact weapons, which means that any melee they do use tends to be things like power swords, fists, and the like, things that can be used in relatively tight corridors.
When their chapter was created, they managed to find an old imperial stockpile that included large amounts of siege weapons, specifically grav guns and close range weapons, alongside old Siege Shields. These shields have been modified to fit the needs of the chapter, increasing or decreasing in size and protection as needed These play a large element into their fighting style and it is uncommon to see one of them without some sort of shield on their person, though it is not always in use and brought out more when needed.
They work best in close to medium range combat, but struggle with longer range engagements. They also are unique in that they will never work alone if they can help it. This includes fights. They do not get in duels solo, with two marines joining each other to fight together. They also do not have one chapter master, but two who communicate with a council made up of their company captains. The masters hold equal authority most of the time, but during large scale crusades or deployments where the entire chapter is needed, one will be given overall command for the duration to simplify orders.
Part of the culture of the chapter is "shared glory." This does not mean that they don't encourage individuals to gain glory, they do, but they believe that the best kind of glory is that which is gained with others. These can include their battle brothers, but also other imperials including guardsmen. Essentially, work to ensure that not only you do great, but the guys next to, behind, and in front of you do great as well.
They recruit from Mariana, and the process is actually similar to the Ultramarines (due to the planet being right on the borders with ultramar and a trade hub), having various academies and military schools that they look over to pick the cream of the crop. Keeps their initiate numbers well stocked. Though they do have a fall with their gene seed that means it doesn't always form in a marine, which means that their stock is relatively limited. Their casualty rates are rather low despite their specialization, but every marine killed is a major blow both to the morale of the chapter as well as its physical resources, so its apothecaries try ESPECIALLY hard to keep marines alive and functioning.
I also had it so that they have a very close relationship to the Void Tridents due to sharing a specialization with them and living nearby. Though they admit that the Void Tridents are the superior boarders, while the tridents respect their siege abilities.
When I made my Dark Angel's successor chapter, I basically boiled them down the same way "Dark Angels who don't care as much about the fallen." Something like that can really springboard you to something more evolved. My homebrew cares about the Fallen, but they simply refuse to completely abandon a campaign because of them.
I decided to give them a prejudice against the Iron Hands (just because they're my least favorite loyalists) that evolved to despising the mechanicus and refusing to use techmarines, making their equipment outdated and relying on my nearby homebrew knight house to provide them with materiels under the table. They also have more than 1000 marines, BUT thats only because a marine missing a limb can't fight, so they take up the duties of maintaining their fortress and equipment. So they aren't technically part of the chapter anymore, plus Dark Angels are really good at keeping their secrets.
Liked the homebrew help. Would love to see a video for homebrew sisters of battle
i think the only real benchmark for creating a custom chapter is just how serious you want other people to take it. if you’re fine with other people thinking your chapter are stupid lore breaking mary sues they yeah go ahead
I've been intermittently developing a Renegade Space Marine... group? Chapter? If I was to In-a-Nutshell them, I think it'd be... Basically a blend of Salamanders and Raven Guard who've become a client state of some group of Tau in exchange for equipment resupply. The longer history I've got so far is a group of Marines taking charge of a small sector of Imperial planets that were isolated from the wider galaxy and basically under constant siege for at least a few hundred years. Desperately in need of resupply and reinforcements, and with Raven Guard-like pragmatism blending with Salamander-like commitment to the duty to their wards, they bargained with the first potentially friendly force to contact them, which were Gue'vesa. While I'm uncertain if it makes sense for this to be the Tau proper or a splinter group, they had enough industrial capacity to provide equipment. I'm still playing around with stuff, but it's mostly an excuse to equip marines with Tau toys. I love the name I gave them, though, Phoenix Sons. It has the fire of the Salamanders, the bird for Raven Guard, and the rebirth motif, given it's a name they adopt after the Imperium labels them as traitors.
Again, Phoenix is Fulgrim, using Phoenix as a name immedietly makes it sound like emperors children successor, and while they could fight “with” the Tau, you need to remember that they never can fight “for” the Tau, especially so against the imperium, but yea, thaught about it myself but never quite got the lore explanation nor the geneseed
I’d love to see “Create a Guard Regiment” someday
I have an idea of a chapter of “blood angels” but their gene seed is world eaters and the chapter master somewhat get gets the primarch power despite having the nails but at an extreme cost to his health, just like talos from the night lords, and it goes to a passing of a torch of him dying and looking upon the new chapter master of his choosing who doesn’t know of their gene seed origins and fully believes that their a blood angel chapter and the old master passes on dying with that knowledge and his rage that burdened him will die with him and he’s satisfied with the possible future of this chapter being far different then his original legion
The hawks sanguine are blood angels successors with a lot of breachers and terminators. Chapters stated life goal is to steal abbadons flagship. Iscarion Knox is first captain, imagine lemartes in grey knights armor built like tyberos and you aren't far off knox's status. The hawks don't really have a chapter master, getting the whole fleet together to elect one is about as hard as herding carnifex. Forge master nihlus runs there only serious permanent installation. The atlas skyhooks over arcathea quintus. So by technicality the forge master is frequently acting chapter master and liaison with the 2.3million fanatical nuns that call quintus home. Knox could claim the job as he commands the largest vessel in the fleet but that smells suspiciously like paperwork, which he doesn't want any more of.
The hawks have four technically flagships, old guard, which appears to be a Gloriana class battleship, that helms the largely admech / sororitas supported subsector defense fleet, lament in red & edge in crimson that are a pair of battle barges that concerningly have heraldry that isn't hawks sanguine if you know where to look and the blade of night, which is a dark age monster that the hawks were allowed to keep only so long as they permitted a mechanicus liaison garrison to study it in perpetuity as negotiated by rogal dorn before he dipped off to where ever he went.
Much like the legion they're founded from the hawks go wherever. Unlike the blood angels we don't have anything nearly as important as the tomb of sanguinius to defend,
The hawks tend to recruit by poaching schola progenium, and recycling washouts back through the schola, where they usually graduate top of the class and then end up as void born, (tempestus scions/chapter serfs deployed to odd jobs, boot work)
Is there a similar idea with traitor legions? Like a splinter of thousand sons or word bearers?
I've been thinking about making my own marine chapter and this is a good recomendation.