The light tweaking is only the proper if they see how it goes for a week or two and then tweak again. If it’s not enough and they let it sit until the rest of the season, that’s terrible.
tbh im glad they didnt nerf their damage ( i enjoy playing my DH from time to time) but yes it still needs big D nerfs imo. imo maybe start by cutting its leech in half in pvp. i mean DH has so many mobility and defensive... no reason it needs this much leech too
The issue wasn't fixed: Dh will still be unkitable; Dh will still outdamage everyone (except ret and ww). Dh will still have one of the best walls on a 1m cd. Dh will have Glimpse for some reason.
As a disc main, I’m please they’ve tried to increase the atonement healing to keep us on the aggressive front foot. But, like you’ve said, the mana issue hasn’t been addressed for 3vs3.
Aug basically sitting with 0% play rate in arena / solo q, Frost dk having performance like a blood tank in arena / solo q no changes They don't even hide that they hate certain specs
unless smite has something attached to it like ancient teaching(so basically a big buff of atonement only for smite) , even with these 2 buffs-sanctuary- and the 4 set in pvp prob will feel a troll usage of global considering that u have to use shadowfiend to get the smite proc of in the 99.9% of the time will be just useless. They should buff +10% /20% radiance and -20% mana cost or smth like that. cuz is the only way to rump up your big penance bolt but costs a lot of mana and heals not that much....and they keep implementing buff to priest like shadow/light as pvp talent when they simply could add that in the disc core instead of giving a buff but at the same time taking away from you a slot on pvp talent ..that so troll, disc is already binded to mandatory use of istant radiance in pvp 😆.
I think the approach of adjusting high and low performing classes, like DH, instead of hard nerfing is a good way. The problem is the frequency if it works out or not is known within a week, but adjustments follow after 2 months.
Hell yeah another venruki video. As I was walking in Spain to move some luggage to my name place, I needed something to listen for. And the first thing that popped in my head was. Please be a new venruki video and bang there it was. Lol. Now I can walk happily
i think they should go crazy on buffing hpal damage honestly as someone whos played hpal and prevoker its kinda crazy that my hpal hits like 10k-20k on an ability with a 12 second cd meanwhile on my prevoker i press 1 disintegrate with no cooldown and it does 200k damage that is clearly a large disparity and an issue
I pity wow PVP players for getting excited for some long over due PVP tuning. Tuning is something that needs consistent attention. I just don't understand how Blizzard will not give the game the budget that it needs to thrive....Its just sad. Edit* People seem to think that we pay a sub for servers but its not true at all. We pay a sub for a steady stream of content AND class tuning in both PVP and PVE. We deserve better than what we are getting.
It's an mmo not suppose to be balanced or a pvp game for that matter I pity anyone who thinks blizzard should care about pvp in an mmorpg game lol that's crazy thinking anyways
@@joeschmoe-q1d Oh really? Well this guy and this channel is about PVP. PVP in wow does not only make up as one part of the 3 major end game activities but its also "rated" and there for should be balanced. PVE is also competitive and there for should be balanced as well. If a mmo is not supposed to be balanced then why do blizzard bother with balance at all? My point is that they don't address the balance issues enough. I am sorry but your comment is stupid.
The wild atunement change is a good one for feral, but I am surprised that we did not get a buff to regrowth as well. Survivability is still trash, even with the frenzied regen change.
We really needed that feral nerf. Look at ferals dominating, heh. But you could cast cyclone on things not just immune players. Like you could cyclone a totem.
As a lock main I'm glad that soulburn port was nerfed into the dirt. It's way too OP being able to kite dps for 6 seconds. They need 100% uptime, great change. Impish instincts is what needed to be nerfed.
It's quite impactful for frost mage to get 5-25% buffs to their core rotational spells. Especially considering that DH was the biggest threat on the ladder, and now they got nerfs to their permanent damage reductions, as well as their bleeds. And like consider a comp like destro frost mage lock. Previously a DH could just kinda yolo through the damage and train you. Now I'm pretty sure that with frost damage buffs and DH nerfs, they no longer can just zug zug follow you into any spot on the map.
The Ice Lance one seems big but the Flurry change is kind of w/e, I think. Frostbolt doesn't really get cast that often. I feel like with Ring of Fire being nerfed, their damage is the same as before.
Blizzard being absolutely terrible yet again. PvP tuning is such a joke for these people. It doesn't happen as often as it should, and when they do some changes they leave the whole community hangin and watching everyteam with a DH is AWC. GREAT
Pretty happy overall with the changes! Could always be better but I do think this might shake things up! Still hoping they continue to balance healers better, and tune more frequently.
dk feels fine in almost every situation imo, if they buffed us at all everyone else would just complain untill we get nerfed into an even worse position than we are currently in, id just be happy we didnt get touched at all
Tuning should be easy. Each month take top 3 most played dps and nerf all damage by 3%. The 3 least played, buff by 3%. Repeat every month. Do the same with single most and least played class of healers.
As a lock main I am looking for a new class to main. This is so stupid the (4) set flame rift is RNG proc and it is not even that good. Now that it is getting a 30% nerf I will not even play lock anymore. Not gonna hope for rng to get a flame rift that does the same dmg as the other shit rifts.
I like when nerfs aren't huge honestly, I feel like classes should feel fun to play so I'd rather them buff other classes before nerfing everything else.
@@BranBronzebeard701 casting as a melee shouldnt be a thing or at least an instant casting option variation should be possible in the form of a proc id wager.
@@GrotesqueN Instant cast cyclone already happened as predatory strikes which wasn’t good at all for the game imo. Maybe a talent that reduces their damage taken on next spell cast. Most of the problem comes from Wild Attunement and how it forces you to play.
We are meant is be mid-tier and used to balance the game around. We are a balance Benchmark. Sad but true. Never horrible, and sometimes OP. our damage is stupid now and control, we need to no changes.
What a joke. Months of 0 communication, for dh to get a little smack on the wrist for defensives. Their dmg is double everyone elses and they still have some of the best mobility and defensives in the game not to mention its 4 button rotation. L Blizzard
NOOOO WHY NERF MY CLASS... im legally mentally challenged, as well as having the disability of having only 1 finger, and im blind and deaf. The fact blizz nerfed DH means blizzard are abilists. Buff dh back or else you hate people with less than room temp iq
if they remove awful rotations ggloader pizza aimsharp baneto Daemonic Tinkr juggernaught brokencyde shufflebot saj pvp soxrotations ravn rotations sad rotations arena shaman suite gladdy booty suite jack the torsten legend wotlk dreams angry panda awful bgbot nosysham wotlk shaman suit jimbot noxylock wotlk affliction warlock juggernaught wotlk warrior suitebasic rotations ponche hunter bigdam pissballs donk rotations becca's wrathbecca's dragon{flight} silent killer gentlemensuite vibe' suite simple rotations ezturtle autohotkey kickbots all theses changes would not matter because half of the EU braket if not more are all bots I've never seen a season this bad in all my time playing wow and fuck nose how blizzard can't ban any of this shit ive posted makes me sick of playing this game and im 2400 rated player
The DH changes are not needed. Venruuki and others complaining dh are broken is just wrong. When a mage can do 1.5 mil dmg in 1.5 seconds and a rogue can cc lock you in opener to death. Dh is not broken and didn’t need nerfs
Personally I think you’re on to something. Clearly they went into the wrong direction with this. DH needed more buffs to damage and throw glaive should apply freedom :)
im only happy about 2% level changes if they actually do that on a weekly basis. doing this after nothing for MONTHS now is just a slap in the face
this could of been done after 1 week LMAO
The light tweaking is only the proper if they see how it goes for a week or two and then tweak again. If it’s not enough and they let it sit until the rest of the season, that’s terrible.
Too little, too late. Another season ruined by wild balance and slow changes.
DH and marks hunter has killed bgs this expac
As long as their precious mythic plus players are happy. The rest of the game can go screw itself.
No DH damage nerfs. They are taking a piss.
These dh nerfs will do absolutely nothing
Why do they do this after awc? Shit was so dumb watching DHs fly around for weeks
It's because they are not paying people to balance wow
So no actual nerfs to DH damage.....what the fuck
tbh im glad they didnt nerf their damage ( i enjoy playing my DH from time to time) but yes it still needs big D nerfs imo. imo maybe start by cutting its leech in half in pvp. i mean DH has so many mobility and defensive... no reason it needs this much leech too
@@nickg9639it's already been nerfed in shadowlands
Figure it out
@@daveyjonesxAnd? Bring it in line with other classes, it still has a ton of utility
@@thumpthumptv1651 what AND? he said nerf leech, I replied it’s already been nerfed. I didn’t say a word about other things.
The issue wasn't fixed:
Dh will still be unkitable;
Dh will still outdamage everyone (except ret and ww).
Dh will still have one of the best walls on a 1m cd.
Dh will have Glimpse for some reason.
One weakness; you can root them.
jk immolate build
Dh will still kill
Ret out damage a good dh in arena ? not a chance
Arms, ret, destro, outlaw - they also do about the same damage
Dh's being unkitable is the entire class main feature
As a disc main, I’m please they’ve tried to increase the atonement healing to keep us on the aggressive front foot.
But, like you’ve said, the mana issue hasn’t been addressed for 3vs3.
Venruki always likes what blizzard does, ofc he works for them
Aug basically sitting with 0% play rate in arena / solo q,
Frost dk having performance like a blood tank in arena / solo q
no changes
They don't even hide that they hate certain specs
DH has been wild for months. Last time we got PVP changes was after Christmas. That was legit nearly 3 months ago.. Man..
last time we got a battleground? march 2018... seething shore. they just dont care about pvp
unless smite has something attached to it like ancient teaching(so basically a big buff of atonement only for smite) , even with these 2 buffs-sanctuary- and the 4 set in pvp prob will feel a troll usage of global considering that u have to use shadowfiend to get the smite proc of in the 99.9% of the time will be just useless. They should buff +10% /20% radiance and -20% mana cost or smth like that. cuz is the only way to rump up your big penance bolt but costs a lot of mana and heals not that much....and they keep implementing buff to priest like shadow/light as pvp talent when they simply could add that in the disc core instead of giving a buff but at the same time taking away from you a slot on pvp talent ..that so troll, disc is already binded to mandatory use of istant radiance in pvp 😆.
I think the approach of adjusting high and low performing classes, like DH, instead of hard nerfing is a good way. The problem is the frequency if it works out or not is known within a week, but adjustments follow after 2 months.
I agree with the small tuning but they really need to be more on top of this and increase the frequency.
Hell yeah another venruki video. As I was walking in Spain to move some luggage to my name place, I needed something to listen for. And the first thing that popped in my head was. Please be a new venruki video and bang there it was. Lol. Now I can walk happily
i think they should go crazy on buffing hpal damage honestly
as someone whos played hpal and prevoker
its kinda crazy that my hpal hits like 10k-20k on an ability with a 12 second cd
meanwhile on my prevoker i press 1 disintegrate with no cooldown and it does 200k damage
that is clearly a large disparity and an issue
BIG DAM JUDGE
I pity wow PVP players for getting excited for some long over due PVP tuning. Tuning is something that needs consistent attention. I just don't understand how Blizzard will not give the game the budget that it needs to thrive....Its just sad. Edit* People seem to think that we pay a sub for servers but its not true at all. We pay a sub for a steady stream of content AND class tuning in both PVP and PVE. We deserve better than what we are getting.
It's an mmo not suppose to be balanced or a pvp game for that matter I pity anyone who thinks blizzard should care about pvp in an mmorpg game lol that's crazy thinking anyways
Mmorpg =/= pve
@@joeschmoe-q1d Oh really? Well this guy and this channel is about PVP. PVP in wow does not only make up as one part of the 3 major end game activities but its also "rated" and there for should be balanced. PVE is also competitive and there for should be balanced as well. If a mmo is not supposed to be balanced then why do blizzard bother with balance at all? My point is that they don't address the balance issues enough. I am sorry but your comment is stupid.
Too little too late rip wow just end it pls
The wild atunement change is a good one for feral, but I am surprised that we did not get a buff to regrowth as well. Survivability is still trash, even with the frenzied regen change.
The fact that the DH changes came after AWC is annoying, but it's obnoxious that it was an ignored bug to tier that they let sit for so long.
We really needed that feral nerf. Look at ferals dominating, heh. But you could cast cyclone on things not just immune players. Like you could cyclone a totem.
As a lock main I'm glad that soulburn port was nerfed into the dirt. It's way too OP being able to kite dps for 6 seconds. They need 100% uptime, great change. Impish instincts is what needed to be nerfed.
It's quite impactful for frost mage to get 5-25% buffs to their core rotational spells. Especially considering that DH was the biggest threat on the ladder, and now they got nerfs to their permanent damage reductions, as well as their bleeds.
And like consider a comp like destro frost mage lock. Previously a DH could just kinda yolo through the damage and train you. Now I'm pretty sure that with frost damage buffs and DH nerfs, they no longer can just zug zug follow you into any spot on the map.
The Ice Lance one seems big but the Flurry change is kind of w/e, I think. Frostbolt doesn't really get cast that often. I feel like with Ring of Fire being nerfed, their damage is the same as before.
Honestly, the feral changes feel more like a nerf overall haha. Blizzard is not a fan of feral.
Frost DK just sitting there decomposing in the corner doing stuff all..
Blizzard being absolutely terrible yet again.
PvP tuning is such a joke for these people. It doesn't happen as often as it should, and when they do some changes they leave the whole community hangin and watching everyteam with a DH is AWC.
GREAT
Hm. What a are moment to see a DH on AWC. 80% of tournaments there were mages, warlocks and rogues and about zero DHs.
Smite hits twice during mindbender
combined with shadow atonement build that buff is significant for disc offense.
Pretty happy overall with the changes! Could always be better but I do think this might shake things up! Still hoping they continue to balance healers better, and tune more frequently.
No Shadow Nerfs. Heck Ya, as good as being buffed. We bring balance as all things should be.
where is the DK WTB DK survivability back
dk feels fine in almost every situation imo, if they buffed us at all everyone else would just complain untill we get nerfed into an even worse position than we are currently in, id just be happy we didnt get touched at all
@@Kodama666 ye I kinda feel same but I am srsly tired to get beaten by every melee class in melee range
Imagine being a frost dk main, terrible to years now. Blizzard have just given up on them.
Tuning should be easy. Each month take top 3 most played dps and nerf all damage by 3%. The 3 least played, buff by 3%. Repeat every month. Do the same with single most and least played class of healers.
Except the frost dk is being competely ignored
Damage isn’t always what makes a spec broken though.
Except that is overlooking a bunch of other things.
i am not Happy with DH bring them down DOWN deeper nerf too death
I really don't understand blizzards hard on for DH
well Illidan has always been their favourite lore character so it makes sense!
As a lock main I am looking for a new class to main. This is so stupid the (4) set flame rift is RNG proc and it is not even that good. Now that it is getting a 30% nerf I will not even play lock anymore. Not gonna hope for rng to get a flame rift that does the same dmg as the other shit rifts.
I like when nerfs aren't huge honestly, I feel like classes should feel fun to play so I'd rather them buff other classes before nerfing everything else.
Except they don’t do that, it would be nice if that was the case.
Huge points to blizz for big dam judge.
Absolute dog water changes, no demon hunter damage nerfs. And a slap on the wrist for survivability. We need better pvp devs :(
denounce is a straight up killswitch now wow
We need Aug buffs
Wow, really small changes for hunters. Same old thing ....
Lets see if the 4set changes for dh are enough, ill wait before resubbing.
will fire mage be good ????
still squishy, but yes. these buffs will feel good for my fire mage build
survival hunter another slap in the face
the feral nerf was uncalled for.
Yep. They always take every chance to shit on Druid.
I swear, I’ve only saw about five feral Druids this entire season. I don’t understand why they need to be nerfed. SMH
Tbf casting cyclone on people immune should never be rewarded, it's just bad gameplay
@@BranBronzebeard701 casting as a melee shouldnt be a thing or at least an instant casting option variation should be possible in the form of a proc id wager.
@@GrotesqueN Instant cast cyclone already happened as predatory strikes which wasn’t good at all for the game imo. Maybe a talent that reduces their damage taken on next spell cast. Most of the problem comes from Wild Attunement and how it forces you to play.
DH did get nerfed cause now shit players that play DH actually have to know their class
no sp buffs?!
We are meant is be mid-tier and used to balance the game around. We are a balance Benchmark. Sad but true. Never horrible, and sometimes OP. our damage is stupid now and control, we need to no changes.
@@matthewmurphy1882Yea ik but I want us back like we were ssn 1
this could of happened like a month ago
meanwhile shadow priest ...
needs nothing (shadow main)
Big dam judge! Unhealable dam!
What a joke. Months of 0 communication, for dh to get a little smack on the wrist for defensives. Their dmg is double everyone elses and they still have some of the best mobility and defensives in the game not to mention its 4 button rotation. L Blizzard
Crappy changes to DH i guess.
I'm excited about the disc buffs. +8% to atonement AND 25% smite damage should equal a lot more passive, low-cost healing.
Piss changes don’t hold your breath
Disc doesn’t need anymore buffs.
to long I already quit
Buff dh
No DK changes is wild. Frost DK has been the least represented spec in almost every PvP bracket for multiple seasons now.
NOOOO WHY NERF MY CLASS... im legally mentally challenged, as well as having the disability of having only 1 finger, and im blind and deaf. The fact blizz nerfed DH means blizzard are abilists. Buff dh back or else you hate people with less than room temp iq
these notes r kinda ass tbh.
i appreciate we finally get some tuning but i feel like they really missed the mark here
Finaly more dogshid 🐕🌰 for frost death knight
Get used to it
Still not pvp’ing.
Blizzard is a joke, their balance is a joke, seems like AI did it.
if they remove awful rotations ggloader pizza aimsharp baneto Daemonic Tinkr juggernaught brokencyde shufflebot saj pvp soxrotations ravn rotations sad rotations arena shaman suite gladdy booty suite jack the torsten legend wotlk dreams angry panda awful bgbot nosysham wotlk shaman suit jimbot noxylock wotlk affliction warlock juggernaught wotlk warrior suitebasic rotations ponche hunter bigdam pissballs donk rotations becca's wrathbecca's dragon{flight} silent killer gentlemensuite vibe' suite simple rotations ezturtle autohotkey kickbots all theses changes would not matter because half of the EU braket if not more are all bots I've never seen a season this bad in all my time playing wow and fuck nose how blizzard can't ban any of this shit ive posted makes me sick of playing this game and im 2400 rated player
I hope the fire buffs don't.... backfire, sorry had to.
Venruki gets another specialization nerfed. The DH's are just another in the long line of nerfs including rets, rogues and guardian druids! Thumbs up.
vendooki
Buff dh
First
Second
Who cares? Pvp is awful in this game.
Buff Prot paladin
They said in a Q&A on DF launch with pvp devs that they didnt want prot paladin in pvp anymore.
Yikes
The DH changes are not needed. Venruuki and others complaining dh are broken is just wrong. When a mage can do 1.5 mil dmg in 1.5 seconds and a rogue can cc lock you in opener to death. Dh is not broken and didn’t need nerfs
Delusional
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Indeed you are delusional! DH needed nerf more than any other class!
Personally I think you’re on to something. Clearly they went into the wrong direction with this. DH needed more buffs to damage and throw glaive should apply freedom :)
What?!
Awful changes