Age and Bodyfat (Audio Only)
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Mark Rippetoe reads his article on bodyfat, strength, and age. The full text of the article can be found here: startingstreng...
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Pure wisdom!!!! I started this program 5 years ago as a young woman and I’m able to do handstands and lifts in yoga that I couldn’t do before. ✨✨✨✨
Rip, I want to start off by saying that I hold you in high esteem, and feel your knowledge by far surpasses that of any other fitness coach out there. That being said, I find it peculiar that you would waste so much time reacting to those on the internet trolling you. You can’t figure out they’re trying to get under your skin, and your reaction is giving them exactly what they want. Just keep doing what you do best, pumping out the top notch science-based information, and ignore the idiots.
My personal aproach to bullshit is: bullshit ignored equals bullshit spread
If you ignore dumb things being uttered you will always find an increase in ppl who think and say these dumb things. Therefore it needs to be adressed even if the guy uttering the dumb thing isnt serious about it.
Because there are people who think this for real, not because it;s an insult to him. They will wind up following athleanx and not making any gains for 5 years, wasting their time and money then thinking it's just poor genetics.
I think him addressing the haters shows that he's totally considered their positions, and provides responses, all while taking everything in stride. It's important as many people may have the doubts that happen to be voiced in the "hater" comments. I totally disagree with you on this.
@@LTPottenger agreed
Clearly you know your stuff! I’ve got your book and am working on your moves. Thank you!
I am grateful that i heard what you said about staying strong. I am 62 now and i have been invigorated to return to squats, and deadlifts, etc because of that challenge you laid down. Thank you because I am stronger now that i was for the last 10 years!
Youre a great person and the trolling just reflects how little is going on in their lives that they would bash you for not having a certain body composition. Keep up the amazing work Sir
What a truth teller! Rip for President!
I'm like number one thousand on this video.
It sure is satisfying to see that "999" turn into "1K."
you don't have to be fat to be strong surely its better to be slim and strong, eat and train the right way and you'll be on your way to a long and fruitfull life.
One of my favorite Rip videos.
This podcast about philosophy and self acceptance.... wise words from wise good looking strong man.
The strong trains for strength!!!! Mark just feed the haters the cake.
Judging a strength coach by his body fat is like judging a fish by how well it can climb a tree.
Ca Chow
No its judging how easy it is to stay healthy with the coaches tipps
You dont just become commander visceral fat like rip by "dont focussing on being a pro athlete"
I see what you did there.
No, it is NOT like that, at all. What the fuck are you talking about!!
A fish's ability to climb a tree is not at all the same or even close to similar to a strength coach doing or knowing ANYTHING. What a stupid comment.
Yea I like that!
@@ggrthemostgodless8713 🤔 🧐 🤨 the strongest men in the world have a high percentage of body fat. Pro bodybuilders are fat 9 months out of the year. Strength training has nothing to do with fat loss for “showing off abs” and moreover, a strength coach has no obligation to teaching you about calorie restrictions to drop weight.
Thanks for the info Rip. As always you are well spoken and easy to understand. Now let's all get to the gym and train, I don't have visible abs but I have plenty of visible muscle, and that's enough for me at 52!
Geez, some commenters talking about Rip being fat are just dumb. The dude's in his 60's and he's a coach, not a competitor. Searches for "young Mark Rippetoe" will reveal what he looked like as a power lifter in his youth.
Stop ripping on Rip for not being ripped... or Rip will rip ya a new one.
Just out for a rip are ya, bud?
Mark never was lean tho ...he just didnt always had the pregnant look (which is actually not just normal being fat ...but you can see thats visceral fat which is very dangerous)
My jokes are all rippers.
I think you missed something along the way. He's not claiming to be in shape. "...abdominal fat...he's clearly eating garbage." His name is Mark Rippetoe, not Jenny Craig or Richard Simmons. "I don't care what he looked like in his youth..." You should, because he was a beast. It shows he knows what he's talking about. He's selling his knowledge and coaching, not his physique. Judging a man in his mid-60's for not having a washboard stomach is a bit stupid. forums.rxmuscle.com/showthread.php?63748-Was-mark-rippetoe-juiced
Love this quote "my job is not to show you how to get abs but how to get strong with barbells". Indeed strength and muscle mass are key to health as long as one is not obese.
Rip for president!!!
This is an excellent article/podcast...I remember reading the original and I think (now as then) that any aesthetic arguments end with his 500# DL and enjoying libations and culinary delights particularly once the realization sets in that one's own Calvin Klein boxer short billboard/parkour champ/elite badminton competitor, etc, etc days are over.
Also there's a video out there of Rip squatting 335 (I think) 11 times on his 60th (may be making some of that up but some is accurate)...
He is on video DLing 500 in his 60's. He has said many many times in videos that he doesn't train frequently anymore. It's a good testiment that strength is easy to keep once it's obtained.
Thanks for the video! I'm 5'4 and my weight hovers around 150lbs. I still enjoy Rips rants but I personally have almost abandoned the bar in favor of Kettlebells. I'm short and squat so the calorie burn I get from high repetition (100+) workouts have been a benefit to my waist line. Plus the mobility benefit from a swing/squat/thruster combo is great. Love your video's, best wishes!
i have 28 years, it is a pity that people aged 18 years or younger, are only ouvidos with trainers who have tightened abdomens... It's a pity that our youth wants to look strong rather than strong to be.
Rip is a really funny guy. He also reminds me of the days of iron men and wooden ships.
Who cares what he looks like or what he can lift now. Hes very knowledgeable and the advice and explanations hes gives is golden. If people cant see beyond this then its highly likely they are under achievers themselves
Timely commentary by Rip as I await delivery of Barbara Ehrenreich's "Natural Causes: An Epidemic of Wellness, the Certainty of Dying, and Killing Ourselves to Live Longer," published today.
So a person who is 5’4” and 300 pounds wouldn’t benefit any from the “10 Minute Abs” program?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
it's possible for a "normal sized" person with a BMI of say 20 or 24 to also have a body fat percentage in the range of 30% or higher. It's a certainty that person is soft and weak, probably has hypertension, likely is insulin resistant, and probably even has a fatty liver. No idea what Rip's body fat percentage is, but I'd bet a paycheck it's well in line for somebody nearing 70 years old.
I think the point here is don't concern yourself so much about the number of how you look. Be concerned about how you feel and what you can do. I have started weight training again over the last 5 year. At 46, I am surpassing my abilities that I had in my 20's when I lifted every day. At 5'-10" 195# my BMI is almost 28 which is considered overweight. But I can run a 5K at any given time (my knees will pay the next) and in all compound lifts, except shoulder press, can lift well more than bodyweight. Some almost 2 times bodyweight.
I have remained 195# over the last 2 year. That is my bodies equilibrium. I eat healthy but don't count calories. I choose not to drink (for other reasons). And I don't have a six pack. I'm ok with that. You should be too.
100 percent agree with you. Abs are only important if you want to look good naked and since that isn’t an issue with me I want to be strong into old age
Respect.
Oh, my…the redolence of mendacity! I can only imagine the rain of crocodile tears on that sad unclaimed birthday cake. Your wonderful commentary reminds me of the condiment salesman heartened by the quantity of unused mustard and ketchup remaining on customer plates. Veracity of your message aside, you’ve a keen eye, Rip.
Strauss Zelnick shows what can be done to look good in older age.
I keep telling my wife that I don't want a six pack even if I could get it. However, she wants me to look like a bodybuilder at the age of 48. I'm cutting right now to lose some belly fat, but I can't wait to start bulking again to get stronger.
At 65 years of age I still have a six pack! I've just got some insulation keeping it cool....😎
I'm Rip's age and wish I could DL 500#. Maybe I should have started earlier. LOL
Steven Muncy
Rip cant either he just likes to believe he still could
Steven Muncy I'll be 39 this year, I started lifting 6 months ago and I hit 305.on my deadlift today. I will hit 405 this year. You can too.
I'm 10 years younger than Rip. If I were half and strong as and possessed a quarter of Rip's knowledge I would be very, very happy. His methods absolutely work. I'm about 9 months into my SS linear progression and couldn't be happier with the results.
That's awesome when it happens. I am 39, have been lifting for years, and do not expect to hit 405 this year. Go get it man! (Edit was for mark a's comment)
Yes he can dl 505
Yeah but Tom Landry played in the NFL
"Some sports are so strenuous that the diet necessary to show visible abs does not allow for recovery form the work."
*klokov has entered the chat*
PEDs change things.
one can not exercise the way out of a bad diet ? however it would be far superior to have an average diet and weight training vs an excellent diet and no training,I do understand that some people have a lack of creativity when it comes to consolidation of palatability and nutritional needs
Most people looking into exercise or weightlifting just want to lose weight and look good. Most don't realize that most of that starts with a better diet and weight lifting is just an accessory.
Most people looking into exercise or weightlifting just want to get healthy, and they think weight loss is the way they do it. For most, it is. Weight lifting is the primary objective that will drive your health to live as long as possible. Weight loss is just an accessory.
Best sport, wrestling. All the people seem to somehow be the strongest and meanest athletes ever, with the A1 conditioning. Combat sports in general usually have strong but lean people, the Thai’s are skinny as hell but aren’t fragile people in the slightest. This is of course the exception and not the rule.
Ariel Valenzuela Oh really, I had no idea. Yeah obviously.
Ariel Valenzuela In the heavier weight classes my guy, the lighter ones don’t have nearly as many fat people. Also the higher level you get the leaner they become, typically. But dude, obviously the 250 pound weight classes will have fatter guys than the 150 ones, you say this like it’s news.
Apparently some people think adding weight to the bar every workout'd make them fat.
Day old unwanted cake still tastes like cake. All good
Maybe people ASSUME that if you teach something they have to look a certain way..... people who hate on you have never attained anything notible. They just hate
That is the problem a balanced approached.
On the flip side, Mike 0'Hearn is just six years younger than Rip...just go take a look at him.
High levels of visceral fat (basically having a pot-belly like I would say Rip has to some degree) are correlated with cancer, heart disease and lower longevity. It's worse than fat in other places, which has lead to some using the term "toxic" visceral fat. So sure, you don't need to necessarily have visible abs, and some body fat is fine, but a constant high level of visceral fat is NOT good. And the more you get your visceral fat down, the better, and if you do that successfully, you will often see your abs as a side-effect. So while it might just be vanity to have visible abs, it's not a pointless endeavour, health-wise - although if you want a bigger bench, more fat seems to help (but that's got nothing to do with health and longevity).
If we're talking about longevity, i.e., how long one lives, the only thing that has scientifically validated as increasing that is calorie restriction, which means eating a whole lot less until your body is constantly in a near-starvation mode, which puts it in a biochemical stasis, basically. There is an argument to be made that living longer in that state is pointless because it's not at all enjoyable, but that's a subjective, philosophical argument and these are the facts. The longest lived humans have all been extremely skinny marathon runner phenotypes. It's also why pharma companies have put a lot of energy into Resveratrol and other calorie restriction mimetics - so we might able to take a pill that causes the body to have the same effects as calorie restriction without actually having to half starve ourselves.
Google's your friend, Rip :)
Let them eat cake.
That was great!
John Constantin weird, I ate some cake not that long ago and I don’t have diabetes. Almost like the shit you’re spewing all over these comments is just that, shit
Justin Liller
Lol yeah bc getting a pregnant looking belly and eating some cake is totally the same thing
But yeah you are so smart with your anecdote and it was OF CORSE my point that eating anything unhealthy even if its rare INSTANTLY gives you diabetes
Are you 12 or something?
His comment was let them eat cake, and you wrote "And die of diabetes". Insinuating that eating cake automatically gives you diabetes lol. It's rather pathetic that some so you chodes come on here to mock one of the top strength coaches of all times because he has a belly in his 60s. The crazy shit is that I doubt there's any way that you're nearly as fit or strong as he is. But hey, cucks will be cucks, keep that broscience alive and well dude.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_them_eat_cake
It's funny seeing the reaction of people doing bodybuilding shit, just focusing on their appearance, when you pull 3 times their body weight off the floor
I believe it because I want to believe it's true. My body fat%? Not important 😜
I need to cut. I got strong but Im about 16 percent bodyfat now.
Well the fitness fox didn't teach me how to utiliahze HIP DRAAAHVE so I don't listen to most of them most of the time
Mild obesity is not protective against heart disease and diabetes. Those are one of the leading killers. Maybe if your BMI was higher due to muscle than maybe you'd a have an advantage begin a little higher than "Normal".
Insulin narrows your blood vessels and that is the real cause of heart disease and over time it gives a fatty liver and t2 diabetes. Measuring anything else is pure bs.
FAAAAIIVE!!!
If Rip was 'ripped' these same jackasses would drone on and on about him being on steroids. Eff em.
So true man, you never see people ragging on WSM competitors like Eddie Hall and Halfthor but we all know they are using, considering its perfectly legal in their countries and they get pharmaceutical grade.
I like to eat and drink too. Is a boxing coach like Freddie Roach fit? No! Don't listen to the haters. Take it as a compliment that they care so much.
The Wolf
Yeah dont listen to evidence or arguments you dont like thats how to be an adult
Como el tocino: no hay sabor sin grasa...
I eat 1 thick strip of bacon and 3 whole eggs daily to stay thin. Fat is your friend to lose weight and keep it off.
People forget that the fit fat guy is a real thing, but a fat guy is just a fat guy. A fit thin guy who needs to gain weight to be stronger is just that.
“My little piggy bloodshot eyes” had me burst out laughing, Rip should be a life coach for today’s millennial snowflakes...😂👍
RIP is God.
I'd rather be ripped with better cardio and calisthenics abilities than having a 500 lb deadlift, that's just me, and esp at an older age. No issues with being "weak and frail" either. The irony is that my joints and connective tissue is better after abstaining from powerlifting.
David J - So in other words, your a self-proclaimed weakling. Got it. ☝️🥴
@@EnlightenedRogue24 compared to you, no. Just to myself; it's all relative 🙂
Why always go into the extremes? Lift moderately weight and go jogging regularly. 🤷♂️
The unfortunate truth is that thinner, more fit individuals are objectively more likely to be healthier, less likely to suffer from chronic disease such as diabetes, generally have more energy, are more mobile, and have more lasting power and sex drive (on average, mechanistically which is multifactorial and complex). They are also treated better and given higher salaries, on average. This has been validated in multiple studies.
That said, I don't think you need to be fit or trim to teach fitness or strength training.
Where is the clinical and scientific evidence that mild obesity (BMI 25-29.9) live longer than average or healthy BMI of 18.5-24.9.. like you mentioned being protective in the video? Optimal weight individuals absolutely have a longer lifespan and healthspan. This is nothing new and has been established for many decades.
The main point here is that people who are mildly "obese" but also train with intensity are not at the same risk as those who do not train. Training makes all of the difference with many of the metabolic diseases and the risks.
A great many health issues that come from people who are obese come from the inability to process food energy well. A strong and conditioned individual doesn't have that problem with processing food energy and doesn't have the metabolic issues that would have come along with someone who ate similarly but never trained.
Also, and this is a huge issue with how people interpret body fat. Subcutaneous fat is harmless unless it's causing structural issues, or there is so much of it that the heart can't keep up. Visceral fat tells the real story of health. Back when I was morbidly obese, I hade a lot of visceral fat and I was at high risk for many diseases, heart attack, diabetes, fatty liver ect. I dieted down to normal weight and most of it was gone. I'm back up to about 33 BMI and I train hard, and my recent scan shows almost no visceral fat. I practically have zero risk along with stable and healthy blood markers.
How one puts on weight is a HUGE distinction in how healthy that person is.
Yeah that's the problem with people who don't look at facts objectivly.
Clobercow1 While I don't necessarily disagree with you, lets not sugarcoat things. If someone trains intensely and has a good amount of muscle mass at a BMI of 35, they will probably do better than a fat slob with a BMI of 35. However, better for health, wellness, and longevity to be a BMI of 25 who also trains intensely and have a good amount of muscle. Every. Single. Time.
Being overweight puts you at risk of all the major chronic diseases, and many cancers, independent of muscle mass. Lets not appease ourselves and stick to the facts.
Crapp!!!!💩💩💩💩
Jep its just to justify his habbits - classic rip
A little belly??? It is not a LITTLE, sorry. You need to lose some 10 - 15 lb of fat, so it becomes a LITTLE one.
kiril1 He is commander visceral from planet fat (and more like 20)
just think crack addicts have great abs ! are they healthy ? being strong from head to toe with good functional strength ! My Bmi is 23 , I ain't fat ,
Have a waah-burger and some french cries why don't ya?
Huh-white.
I'm triggered
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA RIP THINKS THAT "HEIGHT" IS PRONOUNCED "HEIGHDTH" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY GOD AND PEOPLE LISTEN TO HIM??
13 minutes defending why youre overweight, now i've seen it all
Henry M
But he is not a snowflake or sensitive AT ALL
John Constantin that’s just it, not everyone’s goal is to be lean. Some just want to be as strong as they possibly can.
He is a little bit fat for a 60 years old coach. But the worst is that he is full of injuries. Do you want a coach that doesn't know how to avoid injuries?!
Injuries happen regardless of knowledge, yes you can avoid a few but they still happen
Most of his major injuries came from motorcycle accidents and other stuff completely unrelated to lifting