I'm 6'1'' and I found it to be the best out of every motorcycle I have ever ridden or owned out of the box with the standing position of the handlebars. But your right on the first gear I do believe when in lose tracks, that is why I went to a 16 teeth front sprocket on my Tuareg 660.
Glad you like the bike! For me it’s a minor issue with the bars. Like I said in the video, playing around with the handlebar position or trying a different bar bent would easily solve that. Good idea going to a 16 teeth front sprocket 👍🏻
@@SuperCheesyMan Yes, as long as it's usable. Too much torque will give you a lot of wheel spin. In 2nd and 3rd gear the torque was very usable on the Tuareg.
@@SocalOffroadSchool coming from a crf250l, the low gear torque of the Tuareg surprised me for sure offroad. I always find myself taking off in 2nd or 3rd gear depending of the terrain so my rear wheel doesn't spin too much. In what cases the first gear would be handy to use? Log jumps ?
It's a trail-bike, not a MX bike. I much prefer the high-bar position for comfortable trail cruising while standing practically straight up, rather than the lower bar on something like a KTM 690 that forces you into an attack position. Sure, low bar is better for control but you get tired of it really fast.
Hi ya guys, great show an thanks for the advice. I’m 5”8’ an about 115kgs. I’ve tried a T7 an yes way too high. Am I too short for the twigg, as we call it in 🇬🇧. Many thanks again🏍️👍👍👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@SocalOffroadSchool The weight is very low so It is not difficulst to Hold Up. Not like a 100 kg dirt bike but easier than other ADV bikes. No problem in my case. I have read about some leaks on the water pump . Some of them stops leaking after the break-in and othen needs to be raplace. In each case every body continúe using the bike because there were no oil or coolant comsuption. The bike is reliable until now . It is highlyrecomended the Crash bars . Radiators are very exposed.
@@DonPacote Great to hear that you didn't have any major issues. Longterm reliability seems to be one of the main concerns from riders considering the Tuareg.
How talk are you? Its an easy fix, just need to take the time to try a couple different handlebar bents and positions. Our shorter riders didn’t mind the bar position as much which was interesting.
I’m 5’8” with a 32” inseam. I am accustomed to riding dirt bikes. The KTM 790/890 seating position and distance to bars is closer to what I’m accustomed to than with the Tuareg. With the Aprilia it feels like I’m sitting in the motorcycle not on it. I’m sure I could get accustomed to that bike over time. These are just my initial impressions.
I’m 5’8” with a 32” inseam. I am accustomed to riding dirt bikes. The KTM 790/890 seating position and distance to bars is closer to what I’m accustomed to than with the Tuareg. With the Aprilia it feels like I’m sitting in the motorcycle not on it. I’m sure I could get accustomed to that bike over time. These are just my initial impressions.
I’m 5’8” with a 32” inseam. I am accustomed to riding dirt bikes. The KTM 790/890 seating position and distance to bars is closer to what I’m accustomed to than with the Tuareg. With the Aprilia it feels like I’m sitting in the motorcycle not on it. I’m sure I could get accustomed to that bike over time. These are just my initial impressions.
I’m 5’8” with a 32” inseam. I am accustomed to riding dirt bikes. The KTM 790/890 seating position and distance to bars is closer to what I’m accustomed to than with the Tuareg. With the Aprilia it feels like I’m sitting in the motorcycle not on it. I’m sure I could get accustomed to that bike over time. These are just my initial impressions.
It felt very stable in faster sections. Suspension upgrades will depend on rider weight, the terrain you ride the most and how much luggage you are planning on packing on a regular basis. The standard set up has enough room to go stiffer and accommodate a heavier load but if you are planning to load it up with heavy panels most of the time it's probably worth looking into getting it properly set up for that.
@@SocalOffroadSchool Perfect. You are reading my mind. I've been wanting a tenere but then you and others are singing the praises of this bike so I'm having second thoughts. I know it's hard to come out hard in favor of one or the other without alienating some potential audience so all people will say is stuff like if you like the help from the electronics then pay a little more and if reliability is your top priority then this other one is probably your best bet. One's better for taller riders and one's better for shorter riders. Well, I could have told anybody that already without having seen either bike. What I'm interested in learning is which bike feels the best to ride. On which bike can you tear up the most trail the fastest and most accurately and predictably. Which one better becomes one with your body in order to conquer the terrain. Those are some tough questions but I do believe they could be answered in such a way as to not make the claim that one bike is superior to the other overall. For me reliability is a concern, but enjoying the bike is really my top priority. I don't want to feel like I have to ride a bike because I bought it. I want a bike that beckons me to ride it for the sheer thrill of it. And I don't want to buy a bike now that leaves me wishing I had bought a different bike not long after, that would suck. If I could just go to dealerships and test ride these bikes then I wouldn't even be talking about it. I'd have one. But oddly we're still in a situation where you have to order these bikes put down a deposit and decide without ever having seen one much less get to test ride one. And that kind of rubs me the wrong way. Thanks for the reply, Cheers!
@@elgringoec you will like our comparison of the two bikes in the video tomorrow. What is your riding background? If you are used to riding off road motorcycles (Enduro or Motocross) then you will like the Tenere. If you have a street riding background the Tuareg will suit you more because it has that “sitting in the bike” feeling. Definitely tricky making a purchase decision without being able to get to ride one beforehand. I don’t think you would regret either purchase though. Let me know what you think after the comparison in our video tomorrow, hopefully it can give you a better idea of the strong points of the two bikes.
@@SocalOffroadSchool Thank you so much! I will comment there after watching. My background, started as a young kid, rode trails every day for thousands of hours before old enough to get a licence. Have motorcycle operators license fifty years. I have a ktm300 for dirt riding I made street legal, and a vf1100s Honda Street bike to conquer the hilly twisty asphalt. I'd like to take my wife on trips to places like Moab, passes in Colorado, Baja California, and mainland Mexico. That would require comfortable enough street travel and good dirt capability. Cheers!
Great off road views. I've taken your class, east of San Diego, and it changed my riding for the better. Thanks for all your videos...so helpful.
Thank You! Glad you enjoyed the training 👍🏻 Enjoy those trails.
Excellent review and I appreciate the off road specific focus here. Good job! 👍🏻
Thank You 👍🏻
I'm 6'1'' and I found it to be the best out of every motorcycle I have ever ridden or owned out of the box with the standing position of the handlebars. But your right on the first gear I do believe when in lose tracks, that is why I went to a 16 teeth front sprocket on my Tuareg 660.
Glad you like the bike! For me it’s a minor issue with the bars. Like I said in the video, playing around with the handlebar position or trying a different bar bent would easily solve that. Good idea going to a 16 teeth front sprocket 👍🏻
Isn't the extra torque a good thing when riding offroad?
@@SuperCheesyMan Yes, as long as it's usable. Too much torque will give you a lot of wheel spin. In 2nd and 3rd gear the torque was very usable on the Tuareg.
@@SocalOffroadSchool coming from a crf250l, the low gear torque of the Tuareg surprised me for sure offroad. I always find myself taking off in 2nd or 3rd gear depending of the terrain so my rear wheel doesn't spin too much.
In what cases the first gear would be handy to use? Log jumps ?
Well done. Enjoyed it. It is a great bike, rode and filmed it. Will upload the video soon. Keep it up and take care.
Great review. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
I enjoyed it to. Really. Drop by mate, you may like my channel. :)
It's a trail-bike, not a MX bike. I much prefer the high-bar position for comfortable trail cruising while standing practically straight up, rather than the lower bar on something like a KTM 690 that forces you into an attack position. Sure, low bar is better for control but you get tired of it really fast.
I am looking at this bike or the new Norden 901 expedition , Not sure which one will have to see
Hi ya guys, great show an thanks for the advice.
I’m 5”8’ an about 115kgs.
I’ve tried a T7 an yes way too high.
Am I too short for the twigg, as we call it in 🇬🇧.
Many thanks again🏍️👍👍👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Thanks for the review, how does the 660 compare to the 890R?
Good review!!
Thank You! Have you ridden the Tuareg?
@@SocalOffroadSchool Yes , Ihave one since January. My current Mileage is 9700 kms ( 5800 mi)
The bike is awesome off Road and very capable on Road.
@@DonPacote That’s awesome! I agree very fun bike. How is it holding up? Have you had any issues so far?
@@SocalOffroadSchool The weight is very low so It is not difficulst to Hold Up.
Not like a 100 kg dirt bike but easier than other ADV bikes.
No problem in my case. I have read about some leaks on the water pump . Some of them stops leaking after the break-in and othen needs to be raplace. In each case every body continúe using the bike because there were no oil or coolant comsuption. The bike is reliable until now .
It is highlyrecomended the Crash bars . Radiators are very exposed.
@@DonPacote Great to hear that you didn't have any major issues. Longterm reliability seems to be one of the main concerns from riders considering the Tuareg.
Coming from a KTM790 with 1 inch risers, I also found the bars in the Aprilia to be too far forward and high. I’m sure that can be addressed.
How talk are you? Its an easy fix, just need to take the time to try a couple different handlebar bents and positions. Our shorter riders didn’t mind the bar position as much which was interesting.
I’m 5’8” with a 32” inseam. I am accustomed to riding dirt bikes. The KTM 790/890 seating position and distance to bars is closer to what I’m accustomed to than with the Tuareg. With the Aprilia it feels like I’m sitting in the motorcycle not on it. I’m sure I could get accustomed to that bike over time. These are just my initial impressions.
I’m 5’8” with a 32” inseam. I am accustomed to riding dirt bikes. The KTM 790/890 seating position and distance to bars is closer to what I’m accustomed to than with the Tuareg. With the Aprilia it feels like I’m sitting in the motorcycle not on it. I’m sure I could get accustomed to that bike over time. These are just my initial impressions.
I’m 5’8” with a 32” inseam. I am accustomed to riding dirt bikes. The KTM 790/890 seating position and distance to bars is closer to what I’m accustomed to than with the Tuareg. With the Aprilia it feels like I’m sitting in the motorcycle not on it. I’m sure I could get accustomed to that bike over time. These are just my initial impressions.
I’m 5’8” with a 32” inseam. I am accustomed to riding dirt bikes. The KTM 790/890 seating position and distance to bars is closer to what I’m accustomed to than with the Tuareg. With the Aprilia it feels like I’m sitting in the motorcycle not on it. I’m sure I could get accustomed to that bike over time. These are just my initial impressions.
What about fast paced riding, how was the suspension, do you think once luggage is added does the suspension need upgraded
It felt very stable in faster sections. Suspension upgrades will depend on rider weight, the terrain you ride the most and how much luggage you are planning on packing on a regular basis. The standard set up has enough room to go stiffer and accommodate a heavier load but if you are planning to load it up with heavy panels most of the time it's probably worth looking into getting it properly set up for that.
@@SocalOffroadSchool 215 pound rider plus guessing luggage and what I put into luggage another 35 pounds and 1 to 2 gallons of gas
Doing TAT
@@rickvann3489 you would be ok with the standard set up.
slippery front needs a TKC80 or MotoZ
Just upgraded my Tenere with some Mitas tires. Makes a huge difference in traction and front end control.
Much easier to get the power down with different tyres like to Motoz rallz etc the standard tyres are hopeless in the gravel / Bush
I just put some Mitas tires on my T7. The difference is huge.
Did you buy your T7 before test driving this 660?
Yes, I bought my T7 in early November. We have a video coming out tomorrow comparing the Tuareg and the Tenere.
@@SocalOffroadSchool
Perfect. You are reading my mind. I've been wanting a tenere but then you and others are singing the praises of this bike so I'm having second thoughts. I know it's hard to come out hard in favor of one or the other without alienating some potential audience so all people will say is stuff like if you like the help from the electronics then pay a little more and if reliability is your top priority then this other one is probably your best bet. One's better for taller riders and one's better for shorter riders. Well, I could have told anybody that already without having seen either bike. What I'm interested in learning is which bike feels the best to ride. On which bike can you tear up the most trail the fastest and most accurately and predictably. Which one better becomes one with your body in order to conquer the terrain. Those are some tough questions but I do believe they could be answered in such a way as to not make the claim that one bike is superior to the other overall.
For me reliability is a concern, but enjoying the bike is really my top priority. I don't want to feel like I have to ride a bike because I bought it. I want a bike that beckons me to ride it for the sheer thrill of it. And I don't want to buy a bike now that leaves me wishing I had bought a different bike not long after, that would suck. If I could just go to dealerships and test ride these bikes then I wouldn't even be talking about it. I'd have one. But oddly we're still in a situation where you have to order these bikes put down a deposit and decide without ever having seen one much less get to test ride one. And that kind of rubs me the wrong way.
Thanks for the reply, Cheers!
@@elgringoec you will like our comparison of the two bikes in the video tomorrow. What is your riding background? If you are used to riding off road motorcycles (Enduro or Motocross) then you will like the Tenere. If you have a street riding background the Tuareg will suit you more because it has that “sitting in the bike” feeling. Definitely tricky making a purchase decision without being able to get to ride one beforehand. I don’t think you would regret either purchase though. Let me know what you think after the comparison in our video tomorrow, hopefully it can give you a better idea of the strong points of the two bikes.
@@SocalOffroadSchool
Thank you so much! I will comment there after watching. My background, started as a young kid, rode trails every day for thousands of hours before old enough to get a licence. Have motorcycle operators license fifty years. I have a ktm300 for dirt riding I made street legal, and a vf1100s Honda Street bike to conquer the hilly twisty asphalt.
I'd like to take my wife on trips to places like Moab, passes in Colorado, Baja California, and mainland Mexico. That would require comfortable enough street travel and good dirt capability.
Cheers!
Would really enjoy a review of the 2022/2023 Honda CB500X!
Trying to get my hands on one. Hopefully soon 🤞
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