The BEST Phantom Lancer I Have EVER Played Against! (Pro Player Analysis: VP.Nightfall)

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    How VP.Nightfall Plays the BEST Phantom Lancer I Have EVER Played Against
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    The BEST Phantom Lancer I Have EVER Played Against! (Pro Player Analysis: VP.Nightfall)
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  • @BSJ
    @BSJ  3 года назад +38

    If you enjoyed this we have many other pro player analysis videos, check out the playlist here for more of this kind of video: ruclips.net/video/37xwCrw-XVQ/видео.html

    • @deadwinglullaby
      @deadwinglullaby 3 года назад +2

      Something you didn't mention about the manta vs S&Y choice was how important cutting waves was to his vision of the game. The hood gives him the sustain he needs until heart, so cutting waves and not hard committing makes manta more logical. I don't think it's just a personal preference, more his general plan on approaching the fights. Hope that makes sense

  • @YY-mk4ti
    @YY-mk4ti 3 года назад +68

    He has like a hotkey for every single illusion and they have different job to do, he's literally everywhere.

  • @Etency
    @Etency 3 года назад +66

    I think it takes skill to realise and notice when someone on the enemy team is playing very very well. It also brings a different viewpoint and perspective when you analyse someone else's good play(s) and decision making. Since Dota can "arguably" be played many different ways, it's pleasant to see when people do something different that also works more importantly when it's explained in an easy to digest manner.
    I also personally have a lot of respect for people who are able to give out justified praise to others and acknowledge their performance.
    Very nice video, would love more of these type of analysis.

  • @GanChinJie
    @GanChinJie 3 года назад +8

    Holy shit dude tried to aggro the centaur camp to the enemies at @14:46 what in the world

    • @bryns7870
      @bryns7870 3 года назад +1

      I think he was trying to create an illusion that would rush to disable ursa blink so he could run away

  • @SamidiGhnanendhar
    @SamidiGhnanendhar 3 года назад +161

    BSJ: Nightfall is good at microing single illusions with PL. What a god!
    Ana: I don't know what the f is going on. I can't even see my hero

    • @hieroprotoganist3440
      @hieroprotoganist3440 3 года назад +16

      Still 2 times ti winner.
      Part time Dota player too.

    • @zapxcero
      @zapxcero 3 года назад +5

      @@hieroprotoganist3440 OG Fans OMEGALUL

    • @savant1592
      @savant1592 3 года назад +20

      @@zapxcero imagine hating someone because they support a team :)

    • @EdgarTheOgre
      @EdgarTheOgre 3 года назад

      @@zapxcero og brainless haters omegalul

    • @BorealColdstone
      @BorealColdstone 3 года назад

      @@EdgarTheOgre OG are toxic and arrogant as shit they deserve the hate same with OG fans

  • @ManInMotion01
    @ManInMotion01 3 года назад +22

    This was a real masterclass of a PL game, I think very few players would be able to apply so much pressure and create so much space as a hero like PL so early into the game buying his team (who seemed to be getting stomped at times) so much time.
    You need to be in one of these games to really appreciate how much of a nuisance he was being, and how he enabled himself to even reach the lategame through these numerous micro-decisions.

    • @simonroger565
      @simonroger565 3 года назад +2

      That guy is a beast. And only 18 years old...

  • @Redotwo42
    @Redotwo42 3 года назад +200

    Nightfall is 18 and has 5 high immortal accounts. What am i doing in dota.

    • @emilbrandwyne5747
      @emilbrandwyne5747 3 года назад +59

      You can still try to have fun and improve yourself. Just dont go crazy.
      I mean you can play football and not be a pro too.

    • @sabranfauzan2158
      @sabranfauzan2158 3 года назад +7

      I am an legend and play only to have fun with friends, so yeah you play for what you enjoy the most

    • @helldenizens8154
      @helldenizens8154 3 года назад

      @@emilbrandwyne5747 but still

    • @eduardoleroy3660
      @eduardoleroy3660 3 года назад +4

      It's just a game.

    • @helldenizens8154
      @helldenizens8154 3 года назад +9

      @@eduardoleroy3660 it's just a life

  • @MustangRoy7
    @MustangRoy7 3 года назад +80

    This guy is insane. I was focusing on enemy heroes being baited by his illusion micro, happened nonstop. I was blown away, Im honestly gonna try that. Feels like like a thing only masters of a hero can do

    • @twelvesevven4678
      @twelvesevven4678 3 года назад +2

      Tab
      Right click

    • @gameandmodsreview2447
      @gameandmodsreview2447 3 года назад +1

      @@twelvesevven4678 not really, you have to have control groups for this, but I agree that its not that hard

    • @tmanurung52
      @tmanurung52 3 года назад +12

      @@twelvesevven4678 wrong, its fine with meepo but when using PL, there is only 1 illusion that has the same tankiness as the real one, while continuously creating countless illusion, so you need to preset the control group for that 1 illusion and also for the other illusion. if you watch BSJ PL video guide you'll understand better but it is different with PL so that you can't really tab right click.

    • @twelvesevven4678
      @twelvesevven4678 3 года назад +1

      @@tmanurung52 Yeah you're right, just played PL. It doesn't seem to have an order unlike most illusions.

    • @Awesome-ct7vr
      @Awesome-ct7vr 2 года назад

      @@twelvesevven4678 its more about "when and where i do it rather than how i do it"
      It seems simple when things happen for themselves and gets narrated (video).
      But when you try to implement it gets in over your head.
      Like at the first part where he acknowledged pheonix gonna force his 1st skill to be a dive and he wont have spirits for lane. Like wth who even thinks that far?
      I was beyond amazed from this video.

  • @jasonevans2178
    @jasonevans2178 3 года назад +7

    Great analysis, and follow up to hero guide

  • @dutamulia
    @dutamulia 3 года назад +17

    Thank you BSJ, one of you best so far. 100% hooked the whole video.

    • @solac388
      @solac388 2 года назад

      100% agree. One of his best!!!

  • @moyooo
    @moyooo 3 года назад +32

    These are almost if not more educational than the coaching videos, watching someone do something really good is excellent!

    • @LaymensLament
      @LaymensLament 3 года назад +1

      Yes I mean watching replays of the best on a heroes really teaches you the most.

  • @Mr_MRK
    @Mr_MRK 2 года назад

    It was like a masterpiece, thank you for bringing it to us and do the commentary.

  • @thomasscream4179
    @thomasscream4179 3 года назад

    Yes! This sort of detailed analysis is my favourite NannerSlammer content

  • @MarioAltaire
    @MarioAltaire 3 года назад +2

    These are the best videos that you make BSJ. Please make more!

  • @quinndarrow2512
    @quinndarrow2512 3 года назад

    very dope analysis, more please!

  • @isaacsiew7620
    @isaacsiew7620 3 года назад +85

    I hope Pale Horse watch this video and make it to Division One. Prayge

    • @anshumaanpurohit6707
      @anshumaanpurohit6707 3 года назад +1

      wink wink

    • @asasipogi
      @asasipogi 3 года назад

      whos that?

    • @yoink9148
      @yoink9148 3 года назад

      @@asasipogi its bsj lmao

    • @imbrand5040
      @imbrand5040 3 года назад +3

      @@yoink9148 no it isn't, BSJ has no affiliation with Arkosh, you must really be mistaken sir. I'm sure BSJ was payed by SirActionSlacks to be interviewed by BTS Dota at 3am and it is not affiliated with the recent win of Arkosh Gaming at that time. It is okay sir, we all make mistakes.

    • @yoink9148
      @yoink9148 3 года назад +2

      @@imbrand5040my mistake and youre right bsj was payed

  • @Jimmy-ls5nt
    @Jimmy-ls5nt 3 года назад

    Thanks for the tips BSJ 👍

  • @steinway325
    @steinway325 2 года назад

    even after more than a year of watching BSJ videos, i still hit the

  • @1superchief2much
    @1superchief2much 3 года назад +3

    quality, specially the summary at the end

  • @Krustikus
    @Krustikus 3 года назад

    Thanks a lot, learned a lot

  • @peep679
    @peep679 3 года назад +6

    thanks a lot bsj for making these type of videos, we really really appreciate and admire your work. I don't know if you will see this, but thanks a lot for making educational videos! :)

  • @techmonkey11
    @techmonkey11 3 года назад +1

    This was a really incredible breakdown. Thanks - from a 3.8kmmr down to 2.4k 🙏🤣

  • @sterfdwaas
    @sterfdwaas 3 года назад +2

    Nice one BSJ.
    I was a little confused @ 9:45 thinking PL bought blink dagger

  • @mhameedmmd
    @mhameedmmd 2 года назад +2

    i want just to point out that at 31:45 ursa got on top of him with bkb but instead of hiting him with illu he joked and ursa chased illu jumped on it and by that time he got out and got back in took baracs while his illus hitting the back line .. mind blowing daamn it feels good as 500mmr player to watch pro dota XD

  • @salm8159
    @salm8159 3 года назад

    Nasty video

  • @puraskritgurung5672
    @puraskritgurung5672 3 года назад +8

    I would be psychologically tilted seeing the enemy carry on a higher level than me in spite of having the racks advantage

  • @tyboar1926
    @tyboar1926 3 года назад

    This is great content.

  • @CarbonylDotA
    @CarbonylDotA 3 года назад

    This was sick

  • @msrtaha6174
    @msrtaha6174 3 года назад

    Luv u bsj

  • @BB8enjoyer
    @BB8enjoyer 3 года назад +5

    Keep in mind. He was playing on a handicap. No Vp save

  • @georgemoore7238
    @georgemoore7238 3 года назад +3

    At 14:50 he aggros the centaur creep with his lance illusion and pulls it toward the heroes chasing him to try and get a stomp. Absolutely nutty.

    • @alexandru5917
      @alexandru5917 3 года назад

      That's one of the most ingenious things I've seen so far

  • @GurneroMaelstrom
    @GurneroMaelstrom 3 года назад +11

    this is my new favorite ASMR channel, way better than Amouranth in my opinion

  • @dineshzaladekar2892
    @dineshzaladekar2892 3 года назад

    For the algo, love your work bsj

  • @ardabayndr5714
    @ardabayndr5714 3 года назад

    great vid

  • @emmanuel3981
    @emmanuel3981 3 года назад +4

    First 5 minutes of the video and I'm already amazed by the bigbrain plays, That spirit/dive leveling up thing is something I would have never consider myself

  • @kazuyamishima9053
    @kazuyamishima9053 3 года назад

    noice,checked this after my 1st PL game ever

  • @dusc4
    @dusc4 3 года назад +1

    at first i thought you were clickbaiting me but damn he played an amazing game

  • @knoutrrra1035
    @knoutrrra1035 3 года назад +4

    I think the manta is for this moment at 20:07, notice he dispel the fire spirit TWICE with doppel and manta to kill phoenix cleanly. If he took 1 or 2 second late to kill phoenix, i think BSJ team will burst pl down. Anyway what an insane manta cd awareness he use it just when it off cd. i think manta is also a preference for him (know exact manta cd)

    • @kookbook4399
      @kookbook4399 2 года назад

      Also egg, stomp, oracle, ursa q. A lot of debuffs that he can avoid if he's on crack

  • @fabioricardo2680
    @fabioricardo2680 2 года назад

    Thanks Jenkins

  • @johnblademusic
    @johnblademusic Год назад

    You know you've made it when you don't even bother taking a shower before making a video because you know you will get views regardless! Great breakdown, please keep them coming.

  • @BB8enjoyer
    @BB8enjoyer 3 года назад +15

    Anyone remember. RTZ recommending BananaSlashPajama to Ramzes offlane

  • @faithful451
    @faithful451 3 года назад +3

    This is the best PL I've never played against

  • @fireghost6895
    @fireghost6895 3 года назад

    This guy is a god!

  • @winterwarden
    @winterwarden 3 года назад +1

    this was good. would love to hear why he went manta over sny, but just watching his gameplay kinda tells you. also the rest of his build was all about poke for which manta is superior I guess.

  • @alan090179
    @alan090179 3 года назад +15

    BSJ to every one: "don't be in lane with no health/mana... predict the need for sustain, Don't be a useless piece of shit" ... BSJ vs PL ... in lane, low health, no sustain and no regen queued XD

    • @maximpokrovskiy4416
      @maximpokrovskiy4416 3 года назад +3

      Well, BSJ on that lane fell into a situation most of us would fall into if we played vs BSJ himself :)

    • @alan090179
      @alan090179 3 года назад +2

      @@maximpokrovskiy4416 absolutely, I am not trying to trash talk the guy... he is an awesome player, but he also does the exact same thing that he trash talks other people for and makes many of the same mistakes.. what makes it worse though, is that he knows the mistakes and yet still makes them. That was a nasty lane for him, but knowing that it would be, he should have itemised better from the start.

    • @DeadlyShadow7
      @DeadlyShadow7 3 года назад +2

      I dont think that the easy concepts for beginners can be easily applied to higher ranks, bc they care about much more than only "who has more health" - which 'does' matter alot in lower brackets, ppl just know their/others limits better

  • @urielnascimento3567
    @urielnascimento3567 2 года назад

    What I think many NA players do not seem to realize - and SA, my region, is heavily NAesque in this respect - is that he plays the game as a TEAM game in all aspects of it. There is no twinkle twinkle little star that outshines the rest of the team as they all count on their team to do what they do. Not only "not afk farming", but also being there to take fights and using whatever contribution you can, even microing your hero to bait, as a fighting tool. It's not only that "your team randomly feeds" while you're farming, as there is no opposition between you and your team. you ARE your team. those things are obvious when said, but its hard to see players that actually play it like this. this guy is an example of it.

  • @RidingAShoppingCart
    @RidingAShoppingCart 3 года назад

    nice good vid

  • @Ashdalle
    @Ashdalle 3 года назад +1

    This is one if not THE best series on the channel right now! It's both informative and entertaining to watch whilst being a decent amount of time.
    Nothing against coaching nor the students, but it's refreshing to have the perspective of a proplayer with BSJ's analysis and learning those things without all the back and forth of the coaching session and redundancy of 2-3K games mistakes (for example).
    Keep it up!

  • @gamesandtech2347
    @gamesandtech2347 2 года назад

    no force staff and ghost scepter on oracle?

  • @moicanostrondass
    @moicanostrondass 3 года назад

    Nice

  • @AliceinEntropy
    @AliceinEntropy 3 года назад

    Could it be he went manta for the bit more int stats, for mana?

  • @JohnSmith-tz7iy
    @JohnSmith-tz7iy 3 года назад +4

    Nightfall is actually sick

    • @ACharmedEarthling
      @ACharmedEarthling 3 года назад +1

      That's terrible! I hope he gets better soon...

  • @charbelyounes5188
    @charbelyounes5188 3 года назад +9

    Good news: Pale Horse might make it to division 1 :).
    Bad news: Speeed might get eliminated from the tournament :(.

    • @asasipogi
      @asasipogi 3 года назад +1

      good speeed is just a smurfer.

    • @charbelyounes5188
      @charbelyounes5188 3 года назад +1

      @@asasipogi no, he got top 70 in NA last year.

  • @jrnulveseth4187
    @jrnulveseth4187 3 года назад

    That purpesly buyback makes alot of sense, he had been litterly untouchable all game, and ends up randomly dying like a 2k player without even trying

  • @kroontv7233
    @kroontv7233 3 года назад

    More of this :)

  • @BB8enjoyer
    @BB8enjoyer 3 года назад +11

    Who's more useless, that 0 armor bird with a dive lvl 1 or the pudge in the trees

  • @almgergo
    @almgergo 3 года назад

    I liked this video

  • @snap9342
    @snap9342 2 года назад

    27:45 LOL

  • @BB8enjoyer
    @BB8enjoyer 3 года назад +1

    This Pl played like a Terrorblade. Because of the Veno

  • @lukeskywalker6641
    @lukeskywalker6641 10 месяцев назад

    This night fall guy looks evil 😈🔥🤣

  • @aminferdowsi9971
    @aminferdowsi9971 3 года назад +2

    i hope u make one from a willow player

  • @jeysinair5342
    @jeysinair5342 3 года назад

    nice

  • @Equa_
    @Equa_ 3 года назад +1

    gj

  • @DeadlyShadow7
    @DeadlyShadow7 3 года назад

    7:25 can someone explain that to me? why is it favoured for pl that he died second? what does the order of deaths matter?

    • @haha-yi8qi
      @haha-yi8qi 3 года назад

      He gets XP while Centaur doesn't

  • @techiesmiddota2techiesmidd112
    @techiesmiddota2techiesmidd112 3 года назад +1

    This is my casual pl idc mode just i die there .

  • @RMDK22
    @RMDK22 3 года назад +2

    manta for phoenix attack slow i think

  • @azamatkenzhekhan9603
    @azamatkenzhekhan9603 3 года назад

    dude was changing his boots for int on 47th minute to throw skills, then changes to agility, whaaat

  • @kuzzingo9493
    @kuzzingo9493 3 года назад +14

    BSJ: All of VP are nontoxic nice people,
    Nightfalls literal name in game "all of u worst subhumans"
    BSJ: Yea they are such nice people, I love them, not toxic at all.

    • @schoolboyq6051
      @schoolboyq6051 2 года назад

      dude seriously ? ure trippin about the name ? i think u never met someone actually toxic . u just asumes everyone is toxic

    • @SerechII
      @SerechII 2 года назад

      He was addressing exactly that, he read the name and then explained, even tho he has that name, he's a nice teammate

  • @bakr1196
    @bakr1196 3 года назад

    Love it 👌🏽 but i lobe bsj with facial hair more 😍😍

  • @priyanshuverma3563
    @priyanshuverma3563 3 года назад

    A Better hero guide than the hero guide. Kekw

  • @mza3544
    @mza3544 3 года назад +2

    Buyback guide please

  • @qaptin1996
    @qaptin1996 3 года назад

    for the algorithm

  • @howtheworldworks3
    @howtheworldworks3 3 года назад

    BSJ vs Jenkins dota. Who would win in a death....I mean dota battle?

  • @jeansanzia7802
    @jeansanzia7802 3 года назад

    Comment for BSJ

  • @orinivanvrkas7409
    @orinivanvrkas7409 3 года назад

    Imagine if BSJ hit him back at wave 1, would he be the best Centaur Epikid ever played against?

  • @ak.unfamous9072
    @ak.unfamous9072 3 года назад +1

    Match id pls

  • @dracarysdracarys
    @dracarysdracarys 3 года назад

    Alternative title: BSJ being VP.Nightfall's fanboy

  • @0xDankberg
    @0xDankberg 3 года назад +1

    This is Meepo but in 2021

  • @jerzyyyyy
    @jerzyyyyy 3 года назад +2

    Meanwhile PL on my team:
    I'm going to farm 40 mins and carry u guys
    Final score: (loss) radiant 12-47 dire

  • @tahajaved4177
    @tahajaved4177 3 года назад +12

    Lol what if Nightfall confused the game and this is some random guy’s PL replay

    • @lalalala-cs3tn
      @lalalala-cs3tn 2 года назад

      its not really that hard to identify someone when hes in top 10 rank

  • @AnarchyDucky
    @AnarchyDucky 3 года назад

    He was on that oracles ass

  • @asisrai1900
    @asisrai1900 3 года назад +1

    I wish you get to see our video on a player hacking like that dude needs to get ban form dota2

  • @dominikcrepic3345
    @dominikcrepic3345 Год назад

    Is this just not the case of the radiant not having the right heroes and items to deal with pl

  • @MelancholyCrypto
    @MelancholyCrypto Год назад

    Octorine to increase his third ability as well? I need to check
    (Nope it doesn't increase)

  • @Dominic-fd2wz
    @Dominic-fd2wz 3 года назад +9

    You know you’re a Dota god when your smurf is rank 22!

    • @xBLaDeofWaaRx
      @xBLaDeofWaaRx 3 года назад +4

      I think I’m remembering right (might still be the case) but at one point GPK had his main and his smurf in top 10 EU ranks. These VP guys are insanely talented

    • @marcosmartinez2836
      @marcosmartinez2836 3 года назад

      23 savage main account was top 1....and smurf top 2

    • @rtubiras644
      @rtubiras644 3 года назад +1

      @@marcosmartinez2836 SEA is incomparable to EU

    • @HighWay93
      @HighWay93 3 года назад +1

      @@rtubiras644 not really, all those players are super good, and its known guys like epikid and gpk share those accounts with each other and other players. It was the same as before with ramzes and noone

  • @classicheraldgameplays5364
    @classicheraldgameplays5364 2 года назад

    Become so pro at what you do that even if you didn't mean to do something people will themselves assume that you meant to do this when they see your work. I have seen this kind of thing in eminem's songs too he just drops an album and people comeup with all kinds of nerdy shit in the comment section which eminem didn't even think of but gets the credit about how clever he is. Same thing done by a herald wouldn't be appreciated its all about perspective.

  • @samataldazharov9394
    @samataldazharov9394 3 года назад +27

    Honestly, this kind of content was incredibly useful. Like if you agree

  • @dadaisalright7614
    @dadaisalright7614 3 года назад

    “You may not care about the likes”, of course you do.

  • @SotoSpitsFire
    @SotoSpitsFire 3 года назад

    Game ID?

  • @gamingmoments289
    @gamingmoments289 2 года назад

    If only bsj had a storm spirit teammate....

  • @BB8enjoyer
    @BB8enjoyer 3 года назад +2

    Epileptic

    • @asasipogi
      @asasipogi 3 года назад

      does he not like being called epikid?

    • @alexandru5917
      @alexandru5917 3 года назад

      @@asasipogi he likes, the issues was in dpc last year when people were feeling insulted by his name so he had to change it.

  • @ABC-kv3tu
    @ABC-kv3tu 3 года назад

    Back then ramzes said that nightfall is nothing special. Oh well look at him now

  • @miguelito3056
    @miguelito3056 3 года назад

    BSJ DIDNT AGRO AT 4:40 🤔

  • @user-if6qp1lw2b
    @user-if6qp1lw2b 3 года назад

    future TI winner george said

  • @ryantullah7553
    @ryantullah7553 3 года назад

    VP for TI

  • @spacet1me
    @spacet1me 2 года назад +1

    Beginning strong right at 2:38, this was actually a TERRIBLE pick as PL for this game.... PL is at a heavy disadvantage against Cent, Phoenix, and Tiny. But insane skill can obviously overcome that.

  • @TheMastercharles
    @TheMastercharles 3 года назад

    Commenting for the youtube algorith please ignore.

  • @ky-db4fe
    @ky-db4fe 3 года назад

    shouldnt the phoenix have just let him get the rune instead of skilling dive? seems like a misplay on the phoenix even though he did set it up

    • @rinserofwinds
      @rinserofwinds 3 года назад

      you could argue for both options.
      maybe phoenix thought that laning stage with centaur would be manageable even with lvl1 dive.
      in the end phoenix and centaurs lane payed an high price, so it was a mistake on the phoenix side.
      phoenix compromised his laning stage for the rune to get a small goldlead for his whole team.
      if pl did not capitalize on this greedy play, phoenix would have been right.
      But phoenix disrespected pl and aa and lost that bet.

  • @adrianljx66
    @adrianljx66 3 года назад

    One of his smurf is rank 22
    And he has 5 smurf
    I’m wondering, what is the meaning of a smurf account

    • @R3dPeel
      @R3dPeel 3 года назад

      Well, he could have it just to make money. People sell smurf acc. Or he has them because he gets bored playing in high ranks. Other than that, I dont really know.

    • @justluciann
      @justluciann 3 года назад +1

      @@R3dPeel yeah he plays in a t2 team and he is making accounts to sel them for 40€ 🤣

    • @R3dPeel
      @R3dPeel 3 года назад

      @@justluciann They sell for more then that buddy. He has an 11k mmr alt.

    • @asasipogi
      @asasipogi 3 года назад

      @@R3dPeel yeah but what for? if they all at 9k to 10k mmr, then they are all in the same bracket... his lowest mmr smurf is gonna be qued almost same as his 11k...

    • @R3dPeel
      @R3dPeel 3 года назад

      @@asasipogi Like I said, that could be the case.

  • @jackgaming4317
    @jackgaming4317 3 года назад

    The New Ana