@@olgabutorina4156.....wow like childe, signora and scaramouche that he already met, right? What a shocker could not figured it out by myself either. /j
The thing about genshin's lore is that there are ~three layers Normie lore - lore in archon quests, mostly surface level Veteran lore - lore behind limited time events, world quest, side quests, requires people who commit more time to the game to get Theorist lore - lore in books, artifacts, furniture, scattered pages around the world, runes that you need to translate by yourself The thing is all the trailers and stuff sometimes allude to the second and third layers but rarely do people play those
I'm not following Necrit's stream but I guess for now he mainly play the main Archon quest and haven't done other story quest like Zhongli story quest and Raiden story quest yet. The problem with genshin lore is that it's not just in the main archon quest. The other world quest contains more lore that complement the main one.
Okay. Necrit's avoidance to spoiler makes it harder for him to know the story. These tiny snippets of the lore aren't spoilers, they just straight up tell a story. By this logic, playing the game itself could be a spoiler. LOL. jk. I'd say, teasers and trailers are meant to be seen before certain quests, and sometimes (teasers, especially) deal with backstory, that the game itself doesn't delve too deeply in that particular character's story quest (but is still available in the game through text) so, you actually miss out on some details.
@@idmss2663 by his logic, you can watch all spoilers then do the story like watch star wars episode 6 then 5 then 4, such a terrible logic but it is interesting
Trailers are ment to bring people back to the game, if you are going to play anyway you don't need to watch them. Teasers do tell lore needed to understand characters.
Tbf it's been overused a lot so im guessing a lot of people got a little sick of it so they're trying to tone it down a little. Mayhaps it'll get a comeback one day
It's not that it's not used as often, it's that it's been whitewashed so much, most anime evil organizations are now just third rate thugs if not full of copies of the same character with different aesthetics
Evil organizations in anime has lost a lot of quality because the writers just don’t know how to explain motive for some reason. Evil organizations need a grand (perhaps even cultish) motive to gather all the big bad together. Without a sensible motive, then the “organization” is just a misfit of bad guys for no reason.
Part of the problem is Necrit skipping world quests left and right including the more important ones on his way to speeding through the archon quests so he misses out on some of the background lore hidden in those quests. He really needs to knock those quests out of the way rather than sitting on them.
@@IsseiL No one is saying he has to go fast. He's free to go as slow as needed; it's frankly better that he goes slower. You seem to be implying that his chat is the one that's rushing him on in which case he needs to ignore them because it's ruining the experience. Edit: Many Genshin streamers have a ban policy on spoilers. He should have one already but if not, no time like the present.
Idk if he'd wanna sit through hours of unvoiced dialogue, hell most players don't wanna do that when a new world quest comes out let alone doing all of them after each other
These trailers are meant to be watched in sync with the story when they come out, they sometimes flesh out the story (like Ayato's demo explains how the resistance ended up in Narukami)
i watched necrit's first video when asmon reacted to his genshin review. I thought he is someone who is heavily invested in finding lore. But in every follow up video i watch of his, It seems like he is absolutely opposite.
He's very much a lore focused guy, his entire channel as far as I know started by being "the league of legends lore channel" or something akin to that. But his Genshin series lately, he's been absolutely flying through the content. I don't think he's got enough time to digest all the content he's really taking in, and on top of it so concerned about getting caught up and not getting spoiled in the process.
well he hasn't finished Genshin so ofc he's not there yet. if you compare his knowledge to actual lore theorist that already finished the entire game and spent over 1000 hours reading through and analyze every single fucking text in game ofc Necrit is far behind. Genshin is extremely detailed, I wouldn't expect anyone to understand it with firsthand experience.
The structure of Genshin lore in its surface or early stage is still a bit non-expansive...But when you get to Enkanomiya, the Chasm and the Verdant fields of Nabu Malikata, you will know that the lore is as expansive as how an ancient civilization is built.
Genshin literally already wrote down like 5000 years of historical events and you could find these from the wikipedia page. It's kinda insane how deep the lore is for this game and they even use multiple references to other mythologies and religions in the game.
the lore are already hidden in book and artifact... people were already putting thing together back at 1.1 as to the hilichurl, catalysm, celestia, pillars, fake sky. dragonspine was where all these questionable things were first shown to us.
Normally I'd say its fine to play how he wants but with Necrit being lore guy I think he might want to do some of the world quests and lore related stuff.
It will only be a spoiler if u havnt finish the inazuma main archon quest coz it will tell what happens to La Signora. Other than that, there is no part of this video that serve as a spoiler.
I wasn't sad. She finally can get peace and be together with her lover at the afterlife. Delaying that just because y'all want her to be playable is just torturing her 😂
Bro, once you're up to date, check Ashikai's youtube channel. She's like you with League lore/theories, but with Genshin. I will admit though, she's far crazier and broader with her stuff. She goes INSANELY indepth in everything. Def check her out!
yea, there are so many lore video if he really cares about the lore but maybe he seen one and its complicated for him and just given up and just play as usual until the end.
What makes it even better is that they are 1:ranked by strength with numbers (with Childe is 11, Signora is 8 and Skara is 6), so fans can speculate who is what number 2:Represent characters of commedia dell’arte, so once again fans can speculate 3: Some of them was already mentioned before in the lore in one way of another
The ranked by strength is a mistranslation and it’s more akin to ranked by overall usefulness considering things like combat prowess, political influence or things that make you stand out (like whatever is going on with columbina)
This^. Also something I've noted is they are both opposite AND in line with their dell'arte counterparts. By this I mean Tartaglia is sneaky and conniving in dell'arte, whereas in Genshin his character is the opposite. However, he gets the Gnosis by being sneaky and conniving. Scaramouche is not a Clown, but ends up being one by circumstance. In his eyes it's all a joke. Dottore in dell'arte is comic relief, and not that smart, whereas ours seems the opposite, but will likely be taken down by doing something stupid (like erasing all his segments?), which is also how he obtains the Gnoses. You see the theme? They are characteristically the opposite of dell'arte, but reach their goals by being in character. Hence some predictions. Pantalone is speculated to hate money, yet he's a banker and probably achieves his goals through using wealth. Ironically, in this way the Harbingers mirror the Archons, who are weird reversals of their ideals. Venti is about freedom, but is likely not very free himself, and by trying to create freedom for his people, has to restrict himself. Zhongli signs a 'contract to end all contracts', and resigns his contractual obligations in the process. Ei finds 'Eternity' in things changing and coming to an end. Nahida has to 'remove wisdom', and keep the people ignorant of forbidden knowledge. You get the point. It means we can kind of predict the story of both the Archons and the Harbingers by subverting it. Still great writing on Hoyoverse's part.
I love how he cant even know if people are spoiling things. Just look at the chat when he asked when was the trailer released and the chat is like "BEFORE! AFTER! DURING!"
This man is so confidently wrong on things that aren't even speculation... Necrit my guy, you need to start reading the books and doing more world quests.
It's a normal occurrence for the majority of new players experiencing the game. I, myself, have been wrong many times during the early days of theorizing. Besides, if you even took your time to watch his VODs, then you'll know that: 1. He does big, relevant world quests on-stream 2. He does some of it off-stream while playing at his own pace 3. He's having fun and learning as he progresses through the game
@@bozo-iv5ow I'm not complaining, I'm just tryna point out what he's missing so he doesn't get so visibly confused, tho I have to say it's pretty amusing how he's gone from knowing the whole lore of leagueverse in and out, and being wrong on like, every assumption he makes here
He's nearly the end of Act I Sumeru Arcon quest rn, and he couldn't read the manga yet because he's doing the Milio's lore video. He'll read it before his next stream this Wednesday though
He makes theories with what he already know. When he watched this video, he only had info of mondstand,liyue and inazuma archon quest. Now he plays other story quests and world quests. He has still a lot to learn.
@@0Annou0 "what he already know"? nah he don't know jack shit, he always forgets and denies every in-game lore that is confirmed, and he kept making up shitty theories despite it being clearly wrong or have been debunked before
@@adamant2239 not to mention going on a fast pace on the archon quests too. in genshin, things needs to be done in order. archon quests, story quests, world quests. him not doing important world quests and story quests makes him missing so many lores. it's pissing me off how a "lore player" decided to miss out on lots of stuff.
@@adamant2239 how is he supposed to know those pieces of lore? you are already confident in saying they are confirmed because you have played through quests/engaged in lore discussions a LOT more. The way Necrit is doing is how lore discussions have been ever since Genshin CBT era when everyone was new. Nothing was confirmed and we all said random shit. And still today, as quests progress, people come up with new theories which have little to no credibility. Why? Because it's fun. Let him play the game and find out instead of being mad at him. Genshin lore is extensive, it will take time
@@samarthgautam By playing the game and doing the quests in his quest log? Genshin even added a nifty guide page in the adventurer's handbook that recommends the correct quest priority. Or he can take a few seconds to google the order if he prefers. Dude people knew about irminsul and the leylines before 2.0 and have predicted a LOT of correct things that happened in later 2.x updates and 3.x main quest. "lack of information" isn't an excuse nowadays when it's tripled compared to before.
and also watch other lore video there are so many in youtube. but maybe he seen one but seems to complicated to him and given up and just play as it is and doing the usuals until the end.
Honestly i believe people are mad for pausing or talking over cinematic just because cinematic is just so damn good that no matter the effort necrit wont make it better but in fact for many make it worse, like commercial breaks while watching a movie. I dont like it peraonally, especially talking over dialogue, you can pause or react after watching and refer to it and give thoughts after its finished. But its just me. I dont like talking over voiceline so so much
the anime trope of defeating a big bad and then zooming out and seeing the effect it had on the world and the bigger villians at play behind the initial big bad is definetly one of my favorite things. Genhsin and One piece do it masterfully.
You should've learned about the fox girl when you got to inuzuma and you did the Sakura cleansing ritual. And you should've learned about the tengu (dude with the same mask as Sara) when you got towards kokomi's place. Small clarification or spoiler below: . . . . . . The tengu mask dude was killed by the snake. During ei's fight with the snake, losing 1 friend. And the fox girl died during the karni'ah war while protecting inuzuma. In the flashback you she the fox girls friends together with ei.
this is what happens when you go “A B E F Z” instead of “A B C D E F G ••• Z” and rush through weeks worth of stuff in days you have lots of gaps and you have no idea whats happening until he finishes everything we will have to endure
Necrit in league of legends: "I know every single stone that moved in the whole world every second." Necrit in Genshin: **points at a obvious guy with a tengu/bird mask** "Is that the snake?"
He's calling himself a lore nerd but reading and deeply understanding what he read instead he keeps talking and talking that ruined the whole video, i bet he was just force to play genshin because of the sudden rise of his views
i think this is the time necrit have to check out or getting in contact with genshin lore community and other CC's to keep up with all theories and lore that have been building up for 2 years. Some genshin lore CC's probably knew him already and will be delighted to teach necrit about genshin lore.
or just watch some lore video after every quest to get some context, information or if hes confuse on something just like other genshin streamer that likes lore do. he can totally catch up by just watching some of them. but sadly one time when doing sumeru quest line while he is finding nahida he mention that he is rushing the story just to play another lore game like final fantasy and other games. and thats why he just posting just playthrough and not a single lore bits or lore reviews or thoughts.
@@stephguevarra3921 well yeah as expected, hes not a genshin-focused streamer after all. But a collab with genshin CC's would be a nice way to intoduce him to the game's community and to make him know the game better. And it would be an enjoyable content for us as well
To be honest... from what im seeing him guess about who is who, im guessing that he is basicly only focusing on archon quests.Someone should tell him not to rush so much... cause most of us know that a lot of the story is in other quests as well. I think the guys watching him should tell him not to rush the zones so much or he will literaly miss like half the lore of the game, which will be kind of funny for someone that prides him self to be a lore nerd. But hey as long as he is enjoying himself more power to him. 😅
I mean , it's hard to define. These are the content that the game devs released and for people following the game update by update , it's not a spoiler at all coz it releases in certain time
Those flashes in Raiden shogun are the moments she lost them, the guys with black hair was killed in the battle against the serpent Orobashi, that Ei killed in the war, the female character with horns got corrupted from in the cataclysm where the abysal energy spread out in the region, so she attacked Ei and Ei had to kill, as for the foxy female I don't remember what happened exactly
if you are intrested, in the shogusn trailer, the 3 friend represent mythical beast from japanese culture, the one with the red mask is a Tengu(like koujo sara) a bird like creature, the one with horns that an oni like Itto, and then the fox ladz represents the 9 tailed fox spirit*like yae in the present of the game
It sucks for content creators getting into Genshin late because there's just too much to do to know where to go. This really is a game where you have to take your time in order to know what is going on and where. I'm worried about details Necrit will miss in Sumeru due to missing too much. Once he finishes all the archon quests and makes it through a lot of important world quests, I'd recommend Necrit to try and watch some of the content made by Genshin lore youtubers. I have like 4 that come to mind with high quality content, but it feels wrong to promote a youtuber in a different youtuber's comment section.
so far after watching over 20 different creators, which is a LOT, necrit, the LORE guy, had the worst one. so id say its just him the others are fine from what ive seen, go see it for yourself check how many people have worse experience than him
why ppl say spoilers when he will forget this and will understand when more is available. most of these are very cryptic anyways. you can be assured that their demos and music are very important for all new characters to sell them lol
This cinematic is actually really interesting, the chess board is showing a chess game va a computer, the very first one if that makes sense. A youtuber called Wei makes videos on the stuff and theorises about lore
This guy calling himself a lore nerd when he's a youtuber version of some rando posting a stupidly complex theory on twitter, but the theory is wrong and everything can be confirmed by listening or reading.
Necrit is in dire need of guide, lore one. Which preferably watch before doing what, highlight on several important item with its attributed lore chain. Catching up like mad doesn't help if he pass by the lore. The advantage of other player is time, the information was told by batch and in between there will be enough room to cook. He is so in hurry and seems to have no awareness to read things he encounter, read as in actually processing the information. Tbh so far it's very disappointing.
Right he needs a mentor. His chat wrong him too. He needs to slow things down. Do a lot of things camera off too, read the in game archive and wiki. Idk Ashikai could be a great mentor maybe Aster too but shes a bit all other the place but yeah ... these to do have BRAINS and know the lore WELL
Genshin's story and lore is done in such a way that it'll never be the same if you play through it years later. It sucks that a new players will never be able to experience the amount of hype and awe we had as players as this was first revealed. After almost 2 years of so little information regarding the other Harbingers, having a trailer reveal every single one of them. That's just something that cannot be recreated.
People having such high expectation for him as "Loremaster" and ended up being disappointed💀 Y'all, he's just a human too.. He completed many quests in such a short time and could ended up being overwhelmed by informations. I like him speculating in the middle of the quest. If it was right...COOL. If it turned out wrong..then it's part of FUN So far from watching his streams, I realized he has trouble remembering names and he himself mentioned that he's "kinda dyslectic", but he could remember patterns just from a quick glance ngl... just let him play on his own, speculating things..at least it is fun for him, not YOU.
I agree but I think that's mostly because of the genshin community (and just the fact that he is the lore guy). His sudden popularity for genshin has attracted hundreds of people backseating him and people don't know the difference between spoilers and things he won't understand until later. He gets lots of mixed messages. So he thinks he has to make guesses about stuff all of the time when he really doesn't have the background knowledge to make a good guess (though he is right sometimes...). It doesn't seem like he is getting all of the information in a digestible way.
I think he's just into the strory and people speculate all sorts of things when that happens. Like when we all speculated about Nahida's backstory, there were dozens of guesses and none of them turned out to be right.
i feel this too, somehow he seems a bit cocky? he starts to speculate sometimes about what's gonna happen when he just skipped some minor informations. then makes fun of the game when he is wrong. i can somehow feel the disrespect towards the game. and he should stop going through the game so fast! why not do the other story quests before jumping to another archon quest?
What stream is this? He finished story quite fast why people just give any trailer if he doesn't want it. Just finished something then watch video after. I thought he already finished inazuma at the time he react to this but it looks like he isn't.
Him being confidently wrong is not even the problem. I used to be confidently wrong. It's his attempts at making jokes that are terrible to watch, and terrible experience in total. Also making fun of every names, it's just not funny man. It doesn't achieve anything.
You shouldn't have worried about spoilers, because this video is meant to be watched before the Sumeru's Archon quest, and exactly after finishing Inazuma's archon quest. The events in this video also happen exactly during that time. But because you worried too much, you just ruined your reaction, god damn it. You should've trusted people that there are no spoilers, and not pause and look further into the timeline to see...
I think Necrit should play through more of the game before theorizing on things. It's actually really funny seeing him confidently talk about things that even casual Genshin players know to be wrong.
@@hariyanuar8222 but it’s so vague. I mean what do you make of the Fontaine line Dain even says. None of what he says makes sense until AFTER u finish the AQ.
i think most of the negative comments on this video can be rebutted if they simply just went to his twitch and realize that he's already had almost 100 hours worth of live gameplay, and hundreds more offstream overall lol. He's been playing. Just let him play how he wants to edit:grammar
100 hours doesn't even fcking matter if he skips all the dialogue... your comment can also be rebutted by watching his streams, to this day he still does the same stupid thing everytime... maybe learn to differentiate honest criticism rather than blindly defending your "mr.strimmer"
@@kienphucnguyen2001 And did you watch his stream? He doesn’t watch other genshin media yet because he wants to experience it completely blind that’s why some of people would consider it spoilers for him
People in the comment section acting so smug about necrit not knowing the story. While i do agree that he does indeed miss things in the story, but y'all need to chill. Dude just started playing, whereas a wide variety of you have watched hundreds of lore videos or read the books. Calm down. It's not that big of a deal. Pretty childish of people bashing on him for not understanding a lot of the stuff that usually people get to know as they involve themselves with the community and game a lot more.
Holy shit the pauses of "wait there might be spoilers" were annoying. My brother in Christ if you are watching this after Inazuma and before Sumeru, you are experiencing the intended narrative course.
Everyone cooking necrit when him making mistakes about the lore and learning from said mistake is how people learn the lore. For example i thought the adepti was all the gods true forms because of the whole morax exuvia thing
Just wondering, has anyone updated Nécrit on the Elliot situation??? He should really know before making any content about the current windblume event, and as a content creator it's important he's aware of big issues in media that he's looking into
i love how necrit is so confidently wrong, he is so used to being the loremaster that it trips him up badly when he cant figure it out.
He also keeps guessing every 2 seconds where the story is going which legit ruins the experience.
@@RafidW9 right??? watching the damn thing first then tell your thoughts like holy shit
well, he isn't wrong about the fact that we will wait to meet new harbingers in story and fight with them
@@olgabutorina4156.....wow like childe, signora and scaramouche that he already met, right? What a shocker could not figured it out by myself either.
/j
@@RafidW9 i mean its fine hearing his theories, its part of the fun. We also made many theories that were wrong.
The thing about genshin's lore is that there are ~three layers
Normie lore - lore in archon quests, mostly surface level
Veteran lore - lore behind limited time events, world quest, side quests, requires people who commit more time to the game to get
Theorist lore - lore in books, artifacts, furniture, scattered pages around the world, runes that you need to translate by yourself
The thing is all the trailers and stuff sometimes allude to the second and third layers but rarely do people play those
And 4th is Hoyoverse Overall Lore.
@@ShizukiShirano yeah... The Hoyomultiverse LORE is just crazy. There is 0 proof for it to be real... But it's soo cool
I can confidently call myself as a Theorist Lore
I'm not following Necrit's stream but I guess for now he mainly play the main Archon quest and haven't done other story quest like Zhongli story quest and Raiden story quest yet. The problem with genshin lore is that it's not just in the main archon quest. The other world quest contains more lore that complement the main one.
Dw this past weekend he already did the archon quests of zhongli and ei
he just did both zhongli's quest and raiden's story + chasm and enkanomiya
@@0Annou0 where can I find the vods? I never have time to watch him live.
@@JustSomeWeirdo just search necrit twitch
@@JustSomeWeirdo they are available in his twitch , just search necrit and you will find him
Okay. Necrit's avoidance to spoiler makes it harder for him to know the story. These tiny snippets of the lore aren't spoilers, they just straight up tell a story. By this logic, playing the game itself could be a spoiler. LOL. jk.
I'd say, teasers and trailers are meant to be seen before certain quests, and sometimes (teasers, especially) deal with backstory, that the game itself doesn't delve too deeply in that particular character's story quest (but is still available in the game through text) so, you actually miss out on some details.
That’s how he wants it, he says and I paraphrase a good story is a good story regardless of what you read/watch outside of the story itself
@@idmss2663 for sure, I understand. It's just a shame some stories are less impactful without certain contexts. Oh well, it is what it is.
@@Jonathan331 yeah this is all part of it. this is a game that gets updated its a work in progress. league definitely isn't a story in the game alone
@@idmss2663 by his logic, you can watch all spoilers then do the story
like watch star wars episode 6 then 5 then 4, such a terrible logic but it is interesting
Trailers are ment to bring people back to the game, if you are going to play anyway you don't need to watch them. Teasers do tell lore needed to understand characters.
I love evil organizations in anime, it's one of the best tropes that I'm kinda sad it's not used as much anymore
Tbf it's been overused a lot so im guessing a lot of people got a little sick of it so they're trying to tone it down a little. Mayhaps it'll get a comeback one day
It's not that it's not used as often, it's that it's been whitewashed so much, most anime evil organizations are now just third rate thugs if not full of copies of the same character with different aesthetics
Even better when you realize it's not just an "evil" organization and actually has depths
@@tyronetalam8488 not nearly as overused as isekai
Evil organizations in anime has lost a lot of quality because the writers just don’t know how to explain motive for some reason. Evil organizations need a grand (perhaps even cultish) motive to gather all the big bad together. Without a sensible motive, then the “organization” is just a misfit of bad guys for no reason.
Part of the problem is Necrit skipping world quests left and right including the more important ones on his way to speeding through the archon quests so he misses out on some of the background lore hidden in those quests. He really needs to knock those quests out of the way rather than sitting on them.
You're asking him to finish 2 years of content in like 2 weeks WITHOUT getting spoiled by chat
@@IsseiL No one is saying he has to go fast. He's free to go as slow as needed; it's frankly better that he goes slower. You seem to be implying that his chat is the one that's rushing him on in which case he needs to ignore them because it's ruining the experience.
Edit: Many Genshin streamers have a ban policy on spoilers. He should have one already but if not, no time like the present.
Does not matter, once he catch up with msq then he can do wq and it will still be connected
Idk if he'd wanna sit through hours of unvoiced dialogue, hell most players don't wanna do that when a new world quest comes out let alone doing all of them after each other
@@Relevart9169 he had sit through countless LoL wiki pages and more, wdym he can't sit through some unvoiced dialogues
Bro isn't even pregnant but still delivered
I hate and love this at the same tiem
lmao what the fuck, ill be using this now
I am the 69th like (nice), this comment needs way more than this wtf
I know where you live.
Fun fact the VA that voices Dottore (the doctor) is same VA that voiced Heimerdinger in Arcane
wtf no way
@Ayman Sossi I didn't believe it first time i heard and actually had to Google it, but yeah if you go to VA's Wikipedia page you will see it
@@MREAGLE-6666wait wasn't yoimia's dad voiced by capitano's va?
@@Lily-cd6gu wait wait wait hoolup I mightve gotten this wrong
@@Lily-cd6gu oooh shit I'm sorry thanks for pointing out man
These trailers are meant to be watched in sync with the story when they come out, they sometimes flesh out the story (like Ayato's demo explains how the resistance ended up in Narukami)
Exactly like ??? His tchat are doing something wrong. Its teaser - demo - miscellany - story.
Some times its : teaser - story - demo - miscellany
i watched necrit's first video when asmon reacted to his genshin review. I thought he is someone who is heavily invested in finding lore. But in every follow up video i watch of his, It seems like he is absolutely opposite.
Same here, i think he's worry to much about spoiler and being spoiled.
He's very much a lore focused guy, his entire channel as far as I know started by being "the league of legends lore channel" or something akin to that. But his Genshin series lately, he's been absolutely flying through the content. I don't think he's got enough time to digest all the content he's really taking in, and on top of it so concerned about getting caught up and not getting spoiled in the process.
Maybe you should watch his vods
at least he read Before Sun and Moon
unlike me and many other people XD
well he hasn't finished Genshin so ofc he's not there yet. if you compare his knowledge to actual lore theorist that already finished the entire game and spent over 1000 hours reading through and analyze every single fucking text in game ofc Necrit is far behind. Genshin is extremely detailed, I wouldn't expect anyone to understand it with firsthand experience.
The structure of Genshin lore in its surface or early stage is still a bit non-expansive...But when you get to Enkanomiya, the Chasm and the Verdant fields of Nabu Malikata, you will know that the lore is as expansive as how an ancient civilization is built.
He's already been to Enkanomiya btw, and I'm very sure he just finished a decent chunk of the Chasm (excluding the non-necessary world quests).
Genshin literally already wrote down like 5000 years of historical events and you could find these from the wikipedia page. It's kinda insane how deep the lore is for this game and they even use multiple references to other mythologies and religions in the game.
the lore are already hidden in book and artifact... people were already putting thing together back at 1.1 as to the hilichurl, catalysm, celestia, pillars, fake sky. dragonspine was where all these questionable things were first shown to us.
Bro looks so confident about everything trying so hard to be the loremaster in genshin like he did in league lol
Normally I'd say its fine to play how he wants but with Necrit being lore guy I think he might want to do some of the world quests and lore related stuff.
he IS doing world quests, guys!
@@olgabutorina4156 Ah, I'm just going by the comments and the videos he put on youtube my bad then.
And check the archive in game and wiki because its to much like 2 years of in depth lore
This video brought new players.
Fr tho
Some teasers works as storytelling complement for the on going in game lore, kinda interesting way to do exposition.
You will learn about all of this lore when you start doing the world quests
he IS doing the world quests!
The music still gives me chills.
It will only be a spoiler if u havnt finish the inazuma main archon quest coz it will tell what happens to La Signora. Other than that, there is no part of this video that serve as a spoiler.
And they also use Rosaline Lohefalter as a cover too so it's not a direct spoiler
I love to see Necrit enjoying lore of Genshin, I cried for Signora, she has such tragic backstory, I wanted her to live so much...
I know right😔
I laughed seeing her die
I wasn't sad. She finally can get peace and be together with her lover at the afterlife. Delaying that just because y'all want her to be playable is just torturing her 😂
@@lordironhidex I've never said I wanted her to be playable...
@@tomx0078 even so she's better off dead for her sanity
Bro, once you're up to date, check Ashikai's youtube channel. She's like you with League lore/theories, but with Genshin. I will admit though, she's far crazier and broader with her stuff. She goes INSANELY indepth in everything. Def check her out!
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yea, there are so many lore video if he really cares about the lore but maybe he seen one and its complicated for him and just given up and just play as usual until the end.
He is cooking without the right ingredients
What makes it even better is that they are
1:ranked by strength with numbers (with Childe is 11, Signora is 8 and Skara is 6), so fans can speculate who is what number
2:Represent characters of commedia dell’arte, so once again fans can speculate
3: Some of them was already mentioned before in the lore in one way of another
The ranked by strength is a mistranslation and it’s more akin to ranked by overall usefulness considering things like combat prowess, political influence or things that make you stand out (like whatever is going on with columbina)
This^. Also something I've noted is they are both opposite AND in line with their dell'arte counterparts. By this I mean Tartaglia is sneaky and conniving in dell'arte, whereas in Genshin his character is the opposite. However, he gets the Gnosis by being sneaky and conniving. Scaramouche is not a Clown, but ends up being one by circumstance. In his eyes it's all a joke. Dottore in dell'arte is comic relief, and not that smart, whereas ours seems the opposite, but will likely be taken down by doing something stupid (like erasing all his segments?), which is also how he obtains the Gnoses. You see the theme? They are characteristically the opposite of dell'arte, but reach their goals by being in character. Hence some predictions. Pantalone is speculated to hate money, yet he's a banker and probably achieves his goals through using wealth. Ironically, in this way the Harbingers mirror the Archons, who are weird reversals of their ideals. Venti is about freedom, but is likely not very free himself, and by trying to create freedom for his people, has to restrict himself. Zhongli signs a 'contract to end all contracts', and resigns his contractual obligations in the process. Ei finds 'Eternity' in things changing and coming to an end. Nahida has to 'remove wisdom', and keep the people ignorant of forbidden knowledge. You get the point. It means we can kind of predict the story of both the Archons and the Harbingers by subverting it. Still great writing on Hoyoverse's part.
I love how he cant even know if people are spoiling things. Just look at the chat when he asked when was the trailer released and the chat is like "BEFORE! AFTER! DURING!"
I love how he's so confidently wrong about so much lol (No hate though, but seeing some lore vids might help a lot)
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For a better understanding about Ei's past friends, I recommend Necrit should watch the Fan Made animation about Ei's past
name of video plz ?
@@AymanSussy i think it's "Dreams in Eternal Reminiscence"
Cant wait for him to go back to this time when he has enough knowledge about the lore.
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He gotta be surprised about Enkanomiya and Orobashi no Mikoto AND THE SLASH throughout Inazuma map.
This man is so confidently wrong on things that aren't even speculation... Necrit my guy, you need to start reading the books and doing more world quests.
He does and he's already in sumeru this was days before he went into enkanomiya and and read before sun and moon. In any case just go to his twitch
It's a normal occurrence for the majority of new players experiencing the game. I, myself, have been wrong many times during the early days of theorizing. Besides, if you even took your time to watch his VODs, then you'll know that:
1. He does big, relevant world quests on-stream
2. He does some of it off-stream while playing at his own pace
3. He's having fun and learning as he progresses through the game
He do not have to do it right now, lorewise there's not much set in stone, most of it is speculative. Stop bringing your dumb theorists attitude here.
let the man cook dude he just started the game unlike you
@@bozo-iv5ow I'm not complaining, I'm just tryna point out what he's missing so he doesn't get so visibly confused, tho I have to say it's pretty amusing how he's gone from knowing the whole lore of leagueverse in and out, and being wrong on like, every assumption he makes here
there is a reason that collei saw that vision ...u will understand it if u read the genshin manga ( u should read it before going to sumeru )
He's nearly the end of Act I Sumeru Arcon quest rn, and he couldn't read the manga yet because he's doing the Milio's lore video.
He'll read it before his next stream this Wednesday though
So much confidence yet is almost all the time wrong.
He makes theories with what he already know. When he watched this video, he only had info of mondstand,liyue and inazuma archon quest. Now he plays other story quests and world quests. He has still a lot to learn.
@@0Annou0 "what he already know"? nah he don't know jack shit, he always forgets and denies every in-game lore that is confirmed, and he kept making up shitty theories despite it being clearly wrong or have been debunked before
@@adamant2239 not to mention going on a fast pace on the archon quests too. in genshin, things needs to be done in order. archon quests, story quests, world quests. him not doing important world quests and story quests makes him missing so many lores. it's pissing me off how a "lore player" decided to miss out on lots of stuff.
@@adamant2239 how is he supposed to know those pieces of lore? you are already confident in saying they are confirmed because you have played through quests/engaged in lore discussions a LOT more.
The way Necrit is doing is how lore discussions have been ever since Genshin CBT era when everyone was new. Nothing was confirmed and we all said random shit. And still today, as quests progress, people come up with new theories which have little to no credibility. Why? Because it's fun.
Let him play the game and find out instead of being mad at him. Genshin lore is extensive, it will take time
@@samarthgautam By playing the game and doing the quests in his quest log? Genshin even added a nifty guide page in the adventurer's handbook that recommends the correct quest priority. Or he can take a few seconds to google the order if he prefers.
Dude people knew about irminsul and the leylines before 2.0 and have predicted a LOT of correct things that happened in later 2.x updates and 3.x main quest. "lack of information" isn't an excuse nowadays when it's tripled compared to before.
Necrit if you want understand all of lore genshin you need digging more from book, notes, and weapon. Archon quest just a surface of story.
and also watch other lore video there are so many in youtube. but maybe he seen one but seems to complicated to him and given up and just play as it is and doing the usuals until the end.
😭😭 if it was spoiler that WASN’T supposed to be watched then Mihoyo wouldn’t release the footage themselves
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The Va for Pierrot is soooo good. Chills
Honestly i believe people are mad for pausing or talking over cinematic just because cinematic is just so damn good that no matter the effort necrit wont make it better but in fact for many make it worse, like commercial breaks while watching a movie. I dont like it peraonally, especially talking over dialogue, you can pause or react after watching and refer to it and give thoughts after its finished. But its just me. I dont like talking over voiceline so so much
the anime trope of defeating a big bad and then zooming out and seeing the effect it had on the world and the bigger villians at play behind the initial big bad is definetly one of my favorite things. Genhsin and One piece do it masterfully.
You should've learned about the fox girl when you got to inuzuma and you did the Sakura cleansing ritual.
And you should've learned about the tengu (dude with the same mask as Sara) when you got towards kokomi's place.
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The tengu mask dude was killed by the snake. During ei's fight with the snake, losing 1 friend.
And the fox girl died during the karni'ah war while protecting inuzuma. In the flashback you she the fox girls friends together with ei.
this is what happens when you go “A B E F Z” instead of “A B C D E F G ••• Z” and rush through weeks worth of stuff in days
you have lots of gaps and you have no idea whats happening
until he finishes everything we will have to endure
Oh Jesus Christ he thought Sasuri was Oroboshi.
Sasayuri but yeah basically
@@Sacration my bad, my bad
“They steal Archon juice and they start building stuff.”
That’s it. That’s the entire organisation summed up in a single sentence.
I like how you called them "baddies" cause that's what they are in all the meanings of that word
Necrit in league of legends: "I know every single stone that moved in the whole world every second."
Necrit in Genshin: **points at a obvious guy with a tengu/bird mask** "Is that the snake?"
He's calling himself a lore nerd but reading and deeply understanding what he read instead he keeps talking and talking that ruined the whole video, i bet he was just force to play genshin because of the sudden rise of his views
Possible
he mention it in the genshin first impression. his viewership skyrocket and having a blast playing than playing tft.
i think this is the time necrit have to check out or getting in contact with genshin lore community and other CC's to keep up with all theories and lore that have been building up for 2 years. Some genshin lore CC's probably knew him already and will be delighted to teach necrit about genshin lore.
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or just watch some lore video after every quest to get some context, information or if hes confuse on something just like other genshin streamer that likes lore do. he can totally catch up by just watching some of them. but sadly one time when doing sumeru quest line while he is finding nahida he mention that he is rushing the story just to play another lore game like final fantasy and other games. and thats why he just posting just playthrough and not a single lore bits or lore reviews or thoughts.
@@stephguevarra3921 Damn thats sad
@@stephguevarra3921 well yeah as expected, hes not a genshin-focused streamer after all. But a collab with genshin CC's would be a nice way to intoduce him to the game's community and to make him know the game better. And it would be an enjoyable content for us as well
To be honest... from what im seeing him guess about who is who, im guessing that he is basicly only focusing on archon quests.Someone should tell him not to rush so much... cause most of us know that a lot of the story is in other quests as well. I think the guys watching him should tell him not to rush the zones so much or he will literaly miss like half the lore of the game, which will be kind of funny for someone that prides him self to be a lore nerd. But hey as long as he is enjoying himself more power to him. 😅
tbh people have been suggesting that on stream but he wants to unlock limited events so whatever 🤷♂
its already mention while doing sumeru quest that he is rushing the story just to play another lore game like final fantasy.
thank you chat
The Harbingers are much closer to the Espada than they are the Akatsuki imo
Necrit should definitely check out Bleach if he enjoyed Naruto.
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I’m gonna tell my kids this was Organization XIII
Can't wait for necrit to watch all those cn fanimation
I mean , it's hard to define.
These are the content that the game devs released and for people following the game update by update , it's not a spoiler at all coz it releases in certain time
The chest board is similar to a first human vs ai chest match which ai won
Those flashes in Raiden shogun are the moments she lost them, the guys with black hair was killed in the battle against the serpent Orobashi, that Ei killed in the war, the female character with horns got corrupted from in the cataclysm where the abysal energy spread out in the region, so she attacked Ei and Ei had to kill, as for the foxy female I don't remember what happened exactly
if you are intrested, in the shogusn trailer, the 3 friend represent mythical beast from japanese culture, the one with the red mask is a Tengu(like koujo sara) a bird like creature, the one with horns that an oni like Itto, and then the fox ladz represents the 9 tailed fox spirit*like yae in the present of the game
This spoiler shi is getting ridiculous, isn't the whole point is to get into the lore, doubt bro have seen the character archive yet
He watched this after signora's death, so its fine. This video works as a prologue for sumeru.
It sucks for content creators getting into Genshin late because there's just too much to do to know where to go. This really is a game where you have to take your time in order to know what is going on and where. I'm worried about details Necrit will miss in Sumeru due to missing too much. Once he finishes all the archon quests and makes it through a lot of important world quests, I'd recommend Necrit to try and watch some of the content made by Genshin lore youtubers. I have like 4 that come to mind with high quality content, but it feels wrong to promote a youtuber in a different youtuber's comment section.
so far after watching over 20 different creators, which is a LOT, necrit, the LORE guy, had the worst one.
so id say its just him the others are fine from what ive seen, go see it for yourself
check how many people have worse experience than him
This is more Espada than Akatsuki tho..even the table scenes are similar.
That's coffin ⚰️💀
Bro called her coffin a table 💀💯
Bruh please💀
Coffin...
why ppl say spoilers when he will forget this and will understand when more is available. most of these are very cryptic anyways. you can be assured that their demos and music are very important for all new characters to sell them lol
The white fox friend appeared in a cameo in the Genshin Test of Courage Youkai event where the Otter dude and the Samurai hang out together!
You are indeed worthy to be called a "loremaster" when you said "Azeroth", lol, it was a reference for the burning of Teldrassil! HAHAHA
Im glad chat recommended him this after he completed the inazuma quest
the children to childe bit only really works in english. since he is not called childe in most other languages
This cinematic is actually really interesting, the chess board is showing a chess game va a computer, the very first one if that makes sense. A youtuber called Wei makes videos on the stuff and theorises about lore
This guy calling himself a lore nerd when he's a youtuber version of some rando posting a stupidly complex theory on twitter, but the theory is wrong and everything can be confirmed by listening or reading.
Chill guys let him cook 😂 it’s part of the fun
The only way he Will notice is if we leave dislikes
Necrit is in dire need of guide, lore one. Which preferably watch before doing what, highlight on several important item with its attributed lore chain.
Catching up like mad doesn't help if he pass by the lore. The advantage of other player is time, the information was told by batch and in between there will be enough room to cook. He is so in hurry and seems to have no awareness to read things he encounter, read as in actually processing the information.
Tbh so far it's very disappointing.
he should probably watch ashikai's region guides
Right he needs a mentor. His chat wrong him too. He needs to slow things down. Do a lot of things camera off too, read the in game archive and wiki.
Idk Ashikai could be a great mentor maybe Aster too but shes a bit all other the place but yeah ... these to do have BRAINS and know the lore WELL
I can't wait for him to reach enkanomiya and read that one book with all the lore in the game
He already did
he already did
If you just finish the Inazuma Archon Quest, this is not a spoiler
have you heard about irminsul before?
Genshin's story and lore is done in such a way that it'll never be the same if you play through it years later.
It sucks that a new players will never be able to experience the amount of hype and awe we had as players as this was first revealed.
After almost 2 years of so little information regarding the other Harbingers, having a trailer reveal every single one of them. That's just something that cannot be recreated.
Poggg excited to see this
Yeah it's like if the Akatsuki had held a funeral for...basically the male version of Signora, let's put it that way.
She is god so she had to kill other gods who turned into dark aide which is her family
People having such high expectation for him as "Loremaster" and ended up being disappointed💀
Y'all, he's just a human too.. He completed many quests in such a short time and could ended up being overwhelmed by informations.
I like him speculating in the middle of the quest. If it was right...COOL. If it turned out wrong..then it's part of FUN
So far from watching his streams, I realized he has trouble remembering names and he himself mentioned that he's "kinda dyslectic", but he could remember patterns just from a quick glance ngl... just let him play on his own, speculating things..at least it is fun for him, not YOU.
Been waiting for this :)
Signora WILL COME BACK at some point, probably in 5.0-5.X
6:30 hes talking about Sylvanas to the Jailer to Sargeras lol
I've been waiting for this!!!!!!!!
My man is so used with Riot bad story telling that he can't understand genshin
I love necrit as the league loremaster, but tbh, i find him very obnoxious and somehow annoying in his playthrough of genshin lol.
He is just having fun speculating
I agree but I think that's mostly because of the genshin community (and just the fact that he is the lore guy). His sudden popularity for genshin has attracted hundreds of people backseating him and people don't know the difference between spoilers and things he won't understand until later. He gets lots of mixed messages. So he thinks he has to make guesses about stuff all of the time when he really doesn't have the background knowledge to make a good guess (though he is right sometimes...). It doesn't seem like he is getting all of the information in a digestible way.
I think he's just into the strory and people speculate all sorts of things when that happens. Like when we all speculated about Nahida's backstory, there were dozens of guesses and none of them turned out to be right.
@@mkuehter12 did you even watch his streams?
i feel this too, somehow he seems a bit cocky? he starts to speculate sometimes about what's gonna happen when he just skipped some minor informations. then makes fun of the game when he is wrong. i can somehow feel the disrespect towards the game.
and he should stop going through the game so fast! why not do the other story quests before jumping to another archon quest?
What stream is this? He finished story quite fast why people just give any trailer if he doesn't want it. Just finished something then watch video after. I thought he already finished inazuma at the time he react to this but it looks like he isn't.
This reaction was just after signora's death so it makes sense that he doesn't know these characters because we had 2 years of theories about them xD
He did
Him being confidently wrong is not even the problem. I used to be confidently wrong. It's his attempts at making jokes that are terrible to watch, and terrible experience in total. Also making fun of every names, it's just not funny man. It doesn't achieve anything.
Everyone was hype about that trailer but if you already finished the Sumeru archon quest... Then where is that burning tree??
It's something the prime variant of dottore did and the tree may also not be sumeru, so it might connect in the later part in the story.
Hm, how very interesting, i wonder what else is in store.
He should watch teyvat story chapter video , one with 19 million views
he didn't want to... he started to watch it and said that it can has spoilers so he closed the video 😭
@@olgabutorina4156 what ? Its litteraly a preview of the story and lore about the archon that can help him understand them when in the story ... 😭💀
Hey, why's this video muted?
You shouldn't have worried about spoilers, because this video is meant to be watched before the Sumeru's Archon quest, and exactly after finishing Inazuma's archon quest. The events in this video also happen exactly during that time.
But because you worried too much, you just ruined your reaction, god damn it. You should've trusted people that there are no spoilers, and not pause and look further into the timeline to see...
Some of these lore are so not obvious and if he doesn't want to see stuff for lore because spoilers then he's just floating
I instancely click the video when I saw it.
I think Necrit should play through more of the game before theorizing on things.
It's actually really funny seeing him confidently talk about things that even casual Genshin players know to be wrong.
did necrit already react to Travail ?
Nope, he avoid to watch it, cuz its "spoiler"
@@Luminoire lmao but it’s not 😭
SAD i like rewatching it after every region archon quest.
@@Shokukun the title literally says Contains spoilers
@@hariyanuar8222 but it’s so vague. I mean what do you make of the Fontaine line Dain even says. None of what he says makes sense until AFTER u finish the AQ.
As I know you read these: Good Job so far!!
PS. Dragon Strike Diluc when?
i think most of the negative comments on this video can be rebutted if they simply just went to his twitch and realize that he's already had almost 100 hours worth of live gameplay, and hundreds more offstream overall lol. He's been playing. Just let him play how he wants to
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I think 350+ hours on and off stream in just a few weeks
100 hours doesn't even fcking matter if he skips all the dialogue... your comment can also be rebutted by watching his streams, to this day he still does the same stupid thing everytime... maybe learn to differentiate honest criticism rather than blindly defending your "mr.strimmer"
PLEASE wathc Dreams in Eternal Reminiscence (from Hoyofair collab 2022). It's a fan made, really nice
sorry did he play story or not he look like don't know here sister did't Yea told him everything
this video was before him playing raiden shogun's second quest.
You need time to process
@@0Annou0 oh ok
@@0Annou0 and ? We learn about Ei sister BEFORE that
Has he finished the whole inazuma arc?
Yes
@@idmss2663 but did you see people in chat were spamming spoiler?
@@kienphucnguyen2001 And did you watch his stream? He doesn’t watch other genshin media yet because he wants to experience it completely blind that’s why some of people would consider it spoilers for him
People in the comment section acting so smug about necrit not knowing the story. While i do agree that he does indeed miss things in the story, but y'all need to chill.
Dude just started playing, whereas a wide variety of you have watched hundreds of lore videos or read the books. Calm down. It's not that big of a deal.
Pretty childish of people bashing on him for not understanding a lot of the stuff that usually people get to know as they involve themselves with the community and game a lot more.
i think it’s just the attitude of thinking he’s always right that pisses ppl of tbh lol
Holy shit the pauses of "wait there might be spoilers" were annoying. My brother in Christ if you are watching this after Inazuma and before Sumeru, you are experiencing the intended narrative course.
Everyone cooking necrit when him making mistakes about the lore and learning from said mistake is how people learn the lore. For example i thought the adepti was all the gods true forms because of the whole morax exuvia thing
except yours an honest mistake, not like this self-claimed "lore master" who skips over dialogue but making assumptions every 5 seconds
Just wondering, has anyone updated Nécrit on the Elliot situation??? He should really know before making any content about the current windblume event, and as a content creator it's important he's aware of big issues in media that he's looking into
When he stops in the middle of the videos that he is watching it’s so annoying just enjoy the video and stop making up guesses god
Or do it at the end