15” M2 MacBook Air Review - FINALLY!

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  • Опубликовано: 11 июн 2023
  • My review of the Apple 15-inch M2 MacBook Air compared against the 13" M2 MacBook Air and 14" MacBook Pro
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  • @Dave2D
    @Dave2D  11 месяцев назад +1006

    Finally, a Big Screen MacBook that doesn't cost $2k lol

    • @makeshiftsavant
      @makeshiftsavant 11 месяцев назад +13

      1:41 amazing subversive diss right here

    • @davidyang9902
      @davidyang9902 11 месяцев назад +8

      Felt the same way for the iPhone 14 plus, no longer have to play pro max price for just a larger phone screen

    • @youtindia
      @youtindia 11 месяцев назад +28

      For a usable 16GB 500GB version, it does cost $2000 in everywhere but USA
      Just bought a ThinkPad instead with 32GB RAM for like $1300

    • @HeyJayant
      @HeyJayant 11 месяцев назад +18

      Still costs $1699 for 16 GB Memory and 512 GB Storage and you know what... it sucks... No Windows laptop of this price range offers 256 GB Storage and very rare of them have 8 GB RAM... This is just Apple's Marketing Fooling You. But still if you're trapped in Apple's Walled Garden, it might be a good deal for you...

    • @mikolajwojnicki2169
      @mikolajwojnicki2169 11 месяцев назад +11

      In Europe it's around $1800 for the base model and $2200 for a usable configuration...
      I'll stick to my ThinkPad.

  • @Roee_Cachlon
    @Roee_Cachlon 11 месяцев назад +2398

    I love how dozens of RUclips videos talk for 10 minutes each about whether to choose 8 or 16 GB of RAM and what the difference is between the different SSDs, and Dave manages to squeeze it into two sentences. Amazing

    • @FactFlix3
      @FactFlix3 11 месяцев назад +157

      free palestine

    • @allyourfuturebelongstochina
      @allyourfuturebelongstochina 11 месяцев назад +83

      I’m so happy Dave is real. Other channels are like omg the ssd is slower it’s slower it’s bad don’t get it. When in reality most consumers would never notice the difference
      Love Dave!

    • @samthecar
      @samthecar 11 месяцев назад +29

      The apple youtube genre is wack 😂

    • @oozly9291
      @oozly9291 11 месяцев назад +29

      @@FactFlix3 nope

    • @jmunt
      @jmunt 11 месяцев назад +23

      He’s wrong though, max tech showed it is very easy to use up the memory and start hitting ssd swap; with just like 10 tabs and music going the performance tanks. Meanwhile an upgraded ssd swap is so fast there’s very little benefit to more ram in their extensive tests.

  • @tc5006
    @tc5006 11 месяцев назад +1060

    Crazy how you literally solved the Ram vs SSD dilemma in a two sentence. Thank you

    • @jmunt
      @jmunt 11 месяцев назад +35

      Love Dave but lovingly disagree. With upgraded SSDs, performance remains shockingly high even once you run out of RAM and start swapping, I think people don’t realize this because swap was VERY slow before apple silicon SOC. Real world tests show things are different now. And using up even 16GB RAM is easier than he describes imo

    • @dejathebasednationalist957
      @dejathebasednationalist957 11 месяцев назад +11

      @@jmunt How's it easy to use 16GB RAM?

    • @blackpepper2610
      @blackpepper2610 11 месяцев назад +48

      @@jmunt no lol

    • @utkua
      @utkua 11 месяцев назад +50

      @@jmunt this is a joke right? Best ssd today is almost 10 times slower than a ram module. And that is sequential raw performance, in real world it is like 100 timers slower. Inluding apple silicon

    • @veda7279
      @veda7279 11 месяцев назад

      I know right

  • @henriquesoares1114
    @henriquesoares1114 11 месяцев назад +232

    That sound comparison segment was crazy good

    • @zuraizahsan2279
      @zuraizahsan2279 11 месяцев назад +1

      song name

    • @kthmtchll
      @kthmtchll 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@zuraizahsan2279 Push Back - I Am Fowler

    • @monojitchakraborty1259
      @monojitchakraborty1259 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@kthmtchll Thanks. I always check the comments when I'm searching for a featured song

  • @madpuri
    @madpuri 11 месяцев назад +108

    I was watching MKBHD's review and Dave's back to back, the amount of detail Dave put in this 6min video is outstanding and clarified clear differences between two MBA models.

    • @sourabhshekhar845
      @sourabhshekhar845 10 месяцев назад +3

      yes, but it was so super packed..i had to concentrate hard so i dont miss anything!

  • @simonmurray3992
    @simonmurray3992 11 месяцев назад +549

    Given the extra room they should've added maybe at least one extra usb port for value add over the 13 inch Air. Also would be nice if the 14" had a Uniqfind skin on it. I see them everywhere now in coffee shops.

    • @brokeneggshells
      @brokeneggshells 11 месяцев назад +9

      Nah, they're eating into the pro sales too much adding ports. This will already translate to fewer sales of the 16" by virtue of the screen size. I agree, it would be nice, but that's not what Apple does.

    • @simonmurray3992
      @simonmurray3992 11 месяцев назад

      @@brokeneggshells good point, their Pro line would give them more margin. I do believe though 16" Pro are power users and demand the most so the 15-inch Air wouldn't cut their performance needs.

    • @vivek_v
      @vivek_v 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@simonmurray3992 That has never been the case... 99% of all MacBook Pro users have absolutely no need for the power. They buy it just for either the screen size or the clout.

    • @kekchanbiggestfan
      @kekchanbiggestfan 11 месяцев назад

      I don’t think the base M2 has the lanes for another port. It’d have to be slower. Then they’d need a way to communicate the differences between the ports to consumers. A user plugging in an external display into one of the identical looking ports on the machine and having the display run at lower resolution or framerate for seemingly no reason is not a user experience Apple wants.

    • @timbukstu9861
      @timbukstu9861 11 месяцев назад

      What three devices will 95% of users have plugged in? I can only think of a camera and maybe an external storage device. What am I missing that most users need a third port 100% of the time?

  • @_Digitalguy
    @_Digitalguy 11 месяцев назад +414

    Kudos for the RAM vs Storage advice, other reviewers are suggesting a storage upgrade if you need to choose, RAM upgrade does make more sense in the long run

    • @poeticsilence047
      @poeticsilence047 11 месяцев назад

      Other reviewers are idiots lol. They are happy paying the Apple tax or really don't anything about tech.

    • @sihamhamda47
      @sihamhamda47 11 месяцев назад +35

      Also more RAM capacity reduces the stress to storage chips, because with bigger RAM, the system doesn't have to continuously dump the background process cache to storage (swap file) so it could help increase storage lifespan

    • @jmunt
      @jmunt 11 месяцев назад +9

      Hitting ssd swap is way easier than Dave mentioned, swap can hit with 8GB with like 10 chrome tabs and apple music running. I have 16GB ram and my machine still swaps shockingly early. And extensive tests show the ssd swap on the upgraded ssd is almost just as fast as ram now because of SOC. And ssd lifespan is technically shorter, agree there, but these last way longer than old ssd tech, it’s still very likely to last the lifespan of your computer which you’ll probably replace after 4-6 years anyway

    • @mathieul4303
      @mathieul4303 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@jmunt my old computer with hdd in it is over 10yo. If ssd die before an hdd do then I don't want it

    • @NalinKhurb
      @NalinKhurb 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@jmunt So you're saying get the upgraded SSD? Nah dude. Get the RAM

  • @brxan3096
    @brxan3096 11 месяцев назад +399

    I'm a windows user & I've always known MacBooks have outstanding speakers but still, I have to admit I was blown away by the bass coming out of a device that slim. My gaming laptop that's probably double the thickness doesn't have anywhere near that audio capability.

    • @KingJulienPlay
      @KingJulienPlay 11 месяцев назад +21

      the moment u open a new macbook and are blown away by the tone this thing emits

    • @lars2894
      @lars2894 11 месяцев назад +29

      It's because Apple buys entire small companies just for MacBook components everything from speakers, wireless chip, displays etc. Their audio department is basically equavalent to big name speaker brands.

    • @christhedoc8689
      @christhedoc8689 11 месяцев назад +10

      @@lars2894 you are wrong, nobody knows how Apple makes so good speakers, there aren't any 3rd party companies behind this, Apple makes themselves the Macbook speakers, I believe their sound engineers are just too good and Apple really invests money into this.

    • @capbuster1424
      @capbuster1424 11 месяцев назад +17

      I've played with a fair share of Windows laptops...end to end in terms of price....none of them are able to compete with a MacBook speaker...heck even some older laptops with dedicated subwoofers do not produce that much bass

    • @brxan3096
      @brxan3096 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@christhedoc8689 only thing I knew they outsourced was the displays from Samsung & the chipsets back in the day before they started manufacturing their own SOC.

  • @rossparker8806
    @rossparker8806 11 месяцев назад +5

    Great video. Straightforward, to the point and gave genuinely good advice on the RAM vs SSD debate, rather than just explaining the debate as I've seen many other tech RUclipsrs do.

  • @memolano100
    @memolano100 11 месяцев назад +7

    The editing in the sound comparison segment was flawless.

  • @lordpgsaa
    @lordpgsaa 11 месяцев назад +7

    Love the Apollo shoutout at 2:22

  • @artemrakov
    @artemrakov 11 месяцев назад +16

    Still the best reviews on RUclips: concise, customer friendly/not overly techy, to the point. Thanks for doing it!

    • @chanhyuklee8109
      @chanhyuklee8109 5 месяцев назад

      That's the reason why I like this channel.

  • @jasonpoler
    @jasonpoler 11 месяцев назад +18

    Besides raw power and nice to have features, portability/lightweight is also a big consideration for a lot of people. 15 inch MBA fills that gap nicely.

  • @Thanekay
    @Thanekay 11 месяцев назад +4

    Sometimes Dave2D is so concise I wish the video is longer. He’s too straight to the point! I could listen to him all day, man.

  • @ZachAgape
    @ZachAgape 3 месяца назад

    Honestly Dave just love your videos! They're always so packed with info and respectful of our time! Plenty of other 10+min videos don't give anywhere nearly as much insight as this 6min vid. Particularly for what I was looking for, no one was comparing the 14" MBP speakers to the 15" Air speakers somehow! But that's the dilemma I was in. Thanks for comparing them and glad to hear they're roughly similar.
    Getting a second-hand M1 Pro 14" MBP tomorrow to replace my 2018 MBP 15" which, as you reviewed in the past, has excellent speakers, so curious to see how they compare!

  • @thecodezealot
    @thecodezealot 11 месяцев назад

    dave your audio engineering is so good it sounds like you're sitting in my ear talking. keep doing what you're doing, bravo.

  • @eddyhg8098
    @eddyhg8098 11 месяцев назад +52

    Those SSDs man... 200$ for 256GB upgrade is NUTS in 2023.
    512 should be the base, and for a 200$ I'm expecting a 2TB upgrade

    • @MKR3238
      @MKR3238 11 месяцев назад +20

      if the base config would be 16/512 i'd be fine with the price, but 8/256 in a 1600€ notebook, and these absolutely daylight robbery upgrade prices just make me go "fuck you too apple, never ever am i gonna buy a fkin macbook"

    • @TheCompyshop
      @TheCompyshop 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@MKR3238I’m not going to go that far, they still have the most powerful/efficient laptops for the money. I’d just never give them extra money for storage. I’ll just spend $100 for a 1TB external SSD or a flash drive

    • @sihamhamda47
      @sihamhamda47 11 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@MKR3238 also 8GB of RAM is barely enough for multitasking in 2023

    • @ambhaiji
      @ambhaiji 11 месяцев назад +8

      16GB + 1TB costs $70 to Apple. They are charging $800 extra replacing your 8+256. It is beyond stupid

    • @jmunt
      @jmunt 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@sihamhamda47hat everyone seems to be missing is that ssd swap on the upgraded ssd is insanely fast now that we have SOC with apple silicon. This isn’t like the intel days. Real world tests with tons of different apps cannot tell a performance difference of more than a couple percent once ram is full. This is why I strongly disagree with Dave about upgrading the ssd. If this was intel days I’d agree but things are different now

  • @waqqasiqbal6831
    @waqqasiqbal6831 11 месяцев назад +6

    Really needed a reliable opinion on what to choose between extra storage vs extra ram for 200 bucks! Thanks Dave for this, always look forward to your videos.

    • @Superbustr
      @Superbustr 11 месяцев назад

      The baseline is 16gb for RAM and 1TB for storage in 2023. If you can't afford getting more storage at the very least upgrade the RAM as storage can be expanded via external drives, whereas you need to buy a completely new Mac to get more ram since RAM is no longer swappable.
      If you stick with 8gb of RAM, don't be surprised if you face system slowdown with certain programs either today or in the near future.

  • @RegularEverydayNormalGuy
    @RegularEverydayNormalGuy 11 месяцев назад +1

    Love that all your videos are on point, no BS. Please never change

  • @GabrielEscobosa
    @GabrielEscobosa 11 месяцев назад

    I love that you actually do sound comparison, it’s really awesome

  • @jpr-tech
    @jpr-tech 11 месяцев назад +23

    Amazing straight to the point review. I'm still rocking the mid-2012 13" i5/8GB Air!
    It still makes a great Zoom conferencing laptop. Use it for documents, emails and Zoom. Replaced the 10 year old battery myself and it's still going strong!

    • @shashvatverma5673
      @shashvatverma5673 11 месяцев назад +4

      those era macbooks were bulletproof. have two which are still completely adequately functional, crazy!

    • @glebsorokin
      @glebsorokin 8 месяцев назад

      My 13" Pro just got run over by a car and it's still alive, I watched this video from it

  • @artyom560
    @artyom560 11 месяцев назад +123

    The elephant in the room is MacBook Pro 14. You get an in-the-middle display size, but much better display quality and performance. If you spec this new Air 15 to 16/512 to match the Pro 14, it's really close in price - especially considering the fact that M1 Pro models have been selling for ~$1600 for quite a while, so you might even get a better deal on those compared to Air 15. I would honestly just go for the Pro 14.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 11 месяцев назад +10

      Over 60% buy the base models so the MB Air 15-inch for them is better choice as it is much cheaper than a new MB Pro 14 m2. If they need 15-inch then 16-inch would more likely be their second choice not downsizing to 14-inches.

    • @Watchandlearn91
      @Watchandlearn91 11 месяцев назад +4

      The 14 inch is heavy and a lot thicker though. I bought the M1 Max variant when it first came out and it was uncomfortable to use because the sharp edge on the deck dug into my wrists. So I returned it and got the 16 inch and a 13 inch air and between the two all my needs are covered. If they’d have had the 15 back then I’d probably be rocking one laptop.

    • @kane3681
      @kane3681 11 месяцев назад +16

      14 inch is a lot thicker people. Unless you need the Pro, don’t get it.
      The thinness and the lightness of Air’s are under appreciated.
      Choose between the base models or upgrade the RAM as Dave said..

    • @ghost-user559
      @ghost-user559 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@kane3681 But honestly having more than one port is not really a downside? Like it’s heavier but at least you can actually use the pro in a real workflow. Once you bring hubs and dongles with your Air, is it actually lighter in the long run?

    • @kane3681
      @kane3681 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@ghost-user559 unless you need to be a pro, you don’t need it..
      I’m an iOS dev, I bought M1 Pro 14 inch MacBook but it has a substantial weight.
      Whenever I use my sister’s MacBook Air, I kind of wish I bought that but the ProMotion and MiniLed display spoiled me enough that I can’t go back.
      So I am just saying if people don’t need to be a pro, don’t get the pro..

  • @angieagnesson0451
    @angieagnesson0451 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks so much for addressing the slow ssd performance with your chart at 5:09. So many written reviews just ignored the slow ass ssd problem in the 13" MBA with their reviews that got posted today.

  • @karrde593
    @karrde593 11 месяцев назад

    Wow, i really love how concise your reviews are. Thanks.

  • @kevinm8715
    @kevinm8715 11 месяцев назад +26

    The reason that the sound is so much better on the 15" Air versus the 13" Air is that the 15" model has 6 speakers, which the 13" has only 4. So they are making use of the larger chassis to provide more speakers, therefore you get better sound.
    This is the device that I have been waiting for years to get. I just need to see it in the store and pick it up and handle it before I decide 100% to pull the trigger.

    • @VisiblyJacked
      @VisiblyJacked 11 месяцев назад +1

      I just checked it out in the store, it's a thing of beauty with the thinness and that screen size. The 13 inch doesn't interest me now even if cheaper and lighter.

    • @timbukstu9861
      @timbukstu9861 11 месяцев назад

      And they redesigned the speakers I thought? Or at least the housing.

    • @ZachAgape
      @ZachAgape 3 месяца назад

      So glad for you! I'd be looking forward to a 15" MBA for so many years!!

  • @martingifford5415
    @martingifford5415 11 месяцев назад +4

    Thanks for the speaker testing. That was a key issue for me. Judging by the matching frequency graphs, they are using the Pro speaker system in the Air, or EQing them to be the same.

    • @livingdead233
      @livingdead233 11 месяцев назад +1

      Still no external grills. You won't get the surround sound effect.

  • @strawwbebby
    @strawwbebby 3 месяца назад

    Wow! That speaker test was a game changer for me! Been really debating on what to get because I'm upgrading from a 2019 iMac and I'm tired of not being able to carry any computer with me when I'm out. Been watching lots of reviews for the 15" MBA but now I'm 100% convinced because of this video. 🎉 Thanks a lot!! You make great content that's very helpful to general users who doesn't really care nor understand the more technical jargons.

  • @oliverwilliamson6528
    @oliverwilliamson6528 11 месяцев назад +1

    Goddamn, this is the most concise and informational review I’ve seen in a while, props to you Dave!

  • @Ankush.8
    @Ankush.8 11 месяцев назад +84

    I've pointed out in other reviews, but the problem is that once you upgrade the RAM and SSD, it's very close to the 14 inch Macbook Pro where you give up an inch to have a superior display, better performance, and better i/o which can save you further cash. The older generation 14 / 16 inch pros are even better deals.

    • @cdromuser1
      @cdromuser1 11 месяцев назад +9

      Pro also has mini LED display with proMotion. Which is awesome

    • @jasonpoler
      @jasonpoler 11 месяцев назад +1

      I think for students $100 or 2 do add up and also my 14inch M1 MBP feels a bit heavy to me as a student walking around with textbooks and stuff.

    • @super_hero2
      @super_hero2 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@jasonpoler the 15 inches MBA and the 14 inch M1 MBP weight are very similar.

    • @Verisky1
      @Verisky1 11 месяцев назад +1

      I own MBP 14, definitely worth it, I can never go back to 60hz or 8GB ram on a macbook

    • @torpedospurs
      @torpedospurs 11 месяцев назад +3

      This is the consequence of Apple making its RAM and storage upgrades so expensive. I don't think they mind for a sec that the price for the 16gb/512gb MBA15 makes people tempted to get the MBP14. Personally I'd still go for screen real estate. That's why I got an LG Gram - you can't get more screen real estate than 16 inches at 1.2kg!

  • @DogBlessGeesus
    @DogBlessGeesus 11 месяцев назад +4

    Definitely liking there is a 15" option for the new Air models as I have really liked the new air models. I have to say though it's a crime at this price point to start RAM at anything less than 16GB these days (and frankly for the past 5 years).

  • @pob1911
    @pob1911 8 месяцев назад

    Great, concise review.. thank you! 👏🏻👍🏻

  • @Stokcley
    @Stokcley 7 месяцев назад +1

    Love the videos man
    Thanks for all you do 🎉

  • @make.one.studio
    @make.one.studio 11 месяцев назад +100

    I just got the M1 Air and it's still a speedy little device. I love the portability of it. The 15 might be a bit too big for my needs. Nice video as always Dave!

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 11 месяцев назад +1

      But how much longer will it be supported, it's 3 years old now.

    • @cemops8660
      @cemops8660 11 месяцев назад +15

      @@bri1085 minimum 4 more years imo

    • @bsvenss2
      @bsvenss2 11 месяцев назад

      I bought my M1 Air they same day Apple announced it, and I love it!

    • @MrSher22
      @MrSher22 11 месяцев назад +11

      ​@Bri10 considering there's still people rocking 2012 macbooks, a long time

    • @jinraigami3349
      @jinraigami3349 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@cemops8660 4-5 years for new OS update.

  • @crobat7396
    @crobat7396 11 месяцев назад +5

    cool shoutout to apollo

    • @Dave2D
      @Dave2D  11 месяцев назад +3

      he's the goat

  • @K3zz21
    @K3zz21 11 месяцев назад

    Omfg the review was so short, to the point, and practical. Thank you!

  • @HaraldMacGerhard
    @HaraldMacGerhard 11 месяцев назад +1

    as always, great review, thx for doing this 🙂

  • @NitzOO
    @NitzOO 11 месяцев назад +16

    @Dave2D - great content as always - a tiny observation on the units for the screen comparison @2:08, I believe it should be centimetres/cm rather than millimetres, otherwise the screens would be comparable to an Apple Watch.

    • @AzVfL
      @AzVfL 11 месяцев назад +2

      Imagine wearing a macbook around your wrist

    • @Dave2D
      @Dave2D  11 месяцев назад +4

      Oops lol. Ya it’s cm

  • @vento2175
    @vento2175 11 месяцев назад +15

    I waited long for this but this again starting at 8 GB / 256 ist just not right anymore and just kills of so many buyers. For a good config you are basically again in the pro range. :(

    • @D37fit
      @D37fit 11 месяцев назад +5

      Ya. Might as well go for the 14 pro at that price

    • @hellothere5723
      @hellothere5723 11 месяцев назад

      also one can buy two windows gaming laptops pretty much in the base model price of 8/256 so one now and the other after 2 years with better technology and better specs :) I was confuse whether I should go with macbook or thinkpad but went with thinkpad with 32 gb of ddr5 ram and 512 gb ssd, keyboard better than macbook, ryzen 6650u processor and slapped linux on it and that too price still lower than this new macbook base model and 3 year onsite warranty is a plus with thinkpad.

  • @ZiyadKhamis
    @ZiyadKhamis 11 месяцев назад

    Concise and to the point.. My boy D2D hits another home run! 👏🏽

  • @fairygurl5448
    @fairygurl5448 11 месяцев назад

    I liked how you compared the audio to PC’s as well. Very nice.

  • @paulinquebec
    @paulinquebec 11 месяцев назад +28

    An issue no one really mentions about the hard drive size is how a 256 just fills up simply because of the size of photos and videos these days. And even regular work apps like Office and a few others help to fill up a 256 quickly. If you are someone that does NOT want to plug in storage devices ever, even an average non-pro user is going to have trouble with a 256 in the end i think. And when you put that idea together with needing to get 16gigs of Ram, the 14 inch pro starts to look good as a longer-term option.

    • @ghost-user559
      @ghost-user559 11 месяцев назад +5

      Not to mention that just OS updates can end up eating up 20 GB of Storage. Then you are also supposed to leave 10% of an ssd free for over provisioning. So the OS plus that 25GB, and you basically are already down to 200GB before you even install anything.

    • @CharanKR
      @CharanKR 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yea I feel like the storage upgrade is more important than RAM. From what im seeing on forums the 8gb ram is doing pretty well for most cases anyways

    • @ghost-user559
      @ghost-user559 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@CharanKR That definitely depends on what you do. For me I got 16 GB and as long as I do one thing at a time it’s perfect. But the second I opened too many tabs in my browser while I open notes and a few apps to multitask I’m hitting the limits fast. So if you are the type of person who has lots of apps open at the same time get 16GB.
      If you are neat and organized and close each app when you are done with it, you can definitely get by with 8GB as long as you are not video editing or making music with lots of plugins.
      Personally next time I’m going for 32, because for my multitasking that’s definitely the sweet spot. Especially because some of my apps have to run in the background all the time, and I didn’t think of that before.

    • @clickbaitpro
      @clickbaitpro 11 месяцев назад +10

      256 is absurdly low storage for a laptop. 512 should be minimum

    • @alexandreandrejow7711
      @alexandreandrejow7711 11 месяцев назад +1

      I work with huge files. They are always on the cloud. 256gb can be dealt with.

  • @aarohanyt7374
    @aarohanyt7374 11 месяцев назад +112

    The pricing is competitive . I like how they priced the m2 air 13 , 15 and m2 13 pro . Wished they'd chill out on that ram pricing . $200 for 8 extra gigs ? really apple . I am guessing it doesn't even cost them 20 . Also wish the price of m1 air to come down . It's already an excellent deal but it's been 2 years man . Cut us broke students some slack

    • @snow-uq4gx
      @snow-uq4gx 11 месяцев назад +13

      The worst is u can't upgrade anything
      Complete blasphemy for 1300 u can get a pc laptop that will destroy this macbook with better specs

    • @TheStopwatchGod
      @TheStopwatchGod 11 месяцев назад +42

      @@snow-uq4gx With 18 hours of battery life, running cool as a cucumber, and the reliability and level of polish of Mac laptops?

    • @mitchell10394
      @mitchell10394 11 месяцев назад +43

      @@snow-uq4gx You really can't get a 1300 PC laptop that destroys this MacBook. I agree with the upgradable aspect, but I own both windows and MacBooks, and the experience with a MacBook at this price point is much better than a Windows product. You must be biased towards gaming.. which is okay.. but many people don't care about that.

    • @aarohanyt7374
      @aarohanyt7374 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@snow-uq4gx battery life is just better on macs, screens too, speakers too (mbpros). i could go for a windows thin and light, they have poor battery , heating issues, and performance issues. I could go for more of the bang for buck approach with gaming laptops but they are too heavy for a uni student, have fan noise issues, and bad battery life. I guess its really up to your usage . for me i am buying the 13 " MB pro m2 16 gb for 1400$ (student discount) and anything i see in the windows space just doesn't have it all

    • @marklabonte2925
      @marklabonte2925 11 месяцев назад +1

      Look around a little harder-- m1 Air’s can be found for $799 fairly often

  • @bryncb
    @bryncb 11 месяцев назад +2

    I was also 'conned' into getting the M1 Pro 16" MacBook Pro. I only wanted the display size. My previous 13" M1 MacBook Air was more than fast enough.

  • @krazycill2
    @krazycill2 11 месяцев назад

    Compact and informative comparison/review. Thanks Dave :)
    One little note: I'd love it if you could look at the way you calculate percentages when comparing the two screen sizes. Theres an argument to be made that one could have said that the 13" Air is ~ 21% smaller than the 15" model. (2:18)

  • @peterthepanda
    @peterthepanda 11 месяцев назад +4

    Apple should revive the 12" Macbook but with M series chips. Price it at the entry level Macbook Air ($999) and it'll be a good sell. Will definitely buy one if they bring it back.

    • @Dr.Bernardo
      @Dr.Bernardo 11 месяцев назад

      It’s basically the new air 13

    • @mrbobgamingmemes9558
      @mrbobgamingmemes9558 11 месяцев назад

      Why would you want small screen if 13 inch is still very compact and portable , trust me super small screen on laptop is painfull to use , unless it is like gpd win device which is a handheld laptop

  • @heisenballs
    @heisenballs 11 месяцев назад +4

    Thanks for the pragmatic view on the SSD situation, people act like the slower SSD is unusable. Been needing to pick up a mac for a while to do some IOS development, I think the 15" air is exactly what I need.

    • @jmunt
      @jmunt 11 месяцев назад +1

      I’ll just warn in my experience I think hitting swap even on 16GB RAM is way easier than Dave realizes, I strongly believe more storage has significantly more real world benefit for almost everyone.

  • @Gcenzi
    @Gcenzi 11 месяцев назад

    I've watched lots of videos regarding RAM vs SSD and the base model SSD. None really answered my questions, Dave did it in 10 seconds. Best reviewer on RUclips.

  • @malobuchino
    @malobuchino 10 месяцев назад +1

    for those interested - the testing song is: I Am Fowler - Push Back

  • @Andrew-wp1bz
    @Andrew-wp1bz 11 месяцев назад +28

    If apple ever fixes their pricing (the cost for RAM and storage upgrades) then they might have the most perfect computer lineup of any company.

    • @francoisbouchet9907
      @francoisbouchet9907 11 месяцев назад +1

      it's not a bug, it's a (profit maximization) feature! 😁

    • @BreadCatMarcus
      @BreadCatMarcus 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@francoisbouchet9907 You misspelled Greed

    • @hellothere5723
      @hellothere5723 11 месяцев назад +3

      Yes super greedy pricing. when you start configuring a mac book on their site then you are at that point like okay its just 200$ more for the pro lets get that and then you are like okay buying this expensive machine let me make it future proof by adding more ram and then people fall in their pricing trap. I am happy that I went with thinkpad.

    • @JVCKAZZ
      @JVCKAZZ 11 месяцев назад +1

      I thought like you for the past 8 years. Just got a M1 Air (also own a Lenovo with Ryzen 7 & 3070m)
      Here are some things (when we can game) that will make me dump my windows devices:
      - Old to new laptop is 5 clicks
      - iCloud works perfectly (I do video edit, sound, PS, AF, etc)
      - easy to carry around
      - battery last over 1 day and you don’t carry a gigantic charger
      - AirDrop (I use an app on Windows and it’s just not the same fast workflow)
      - iPhone + Mac combo is really the best one

    • @Andrew-wp1bz
      @Andrew-wp1bz 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@JVCKAZZ until M1 the mac lineup was literal garbage though. Macs being good is a very recent thing.

  • @afon_s
    @afon_s 11 месяцев назад +2

    Dave2D and MKBHD menstrual cycles are in sync😂

  • @JosephFabs
    @JosephFabs 11 месяцев назад

    That’s all i need to know. Period. Thank you, Dave 🙏🥰

  • @DeepDishPizza
    @DeepDishPizza 11 месяцев назад

    Picked up mine today. Love it!!!!

  • @keerthan7558
    @keerthan7558 11 месяцев назад +3

    I personally always thought that the 13inch MBP should have been the MBA , without the touch bar and price hike of 200-300usd ofc but including the extra thunderbolt port. Macbook fans are very quiet so it wouldn't ruin the quiet experience MBA users might like and the fan increases the longevity of by keeping the components cooler while giving slightly better performance.

  • @sarrum7696
    @sarrum7696 11 месяцев назад +7

    Ya know what I’m just gonna say it. Dave2D is the best tech reviewer on RUclips.
    Side note: I love the waveform that shows how the speakers perform across the frequency spectrum. ❤

    • @wotermelon_
      @wotermelon_ 11 месяцев назад +1

      idk about best, its mkbhd imo

    • @sarrum7696
      @sarrum7696 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@wotermelon_ Don’t get me wrong, MKBHD is great. But he doesn’t cover laptops (other than Apple). Dave covers just about anything tech and does a great job on all of them.

  • @joshp6061
    @joshp6061 11 месяцев назад +2

    How do you manage such good objective analysis reviews in such short form videos?!?

  • @tmtmolokwane6357
    @tmtmolokwane6357 11 месяцев назад

    yooo i didnt know Astro Boy was reviewing laptop on your channel too....dooopee🔥🔥

  • @shineymcshine
    @shineymcshine 11 месяцев назад +2

    What sucks about the 8GB / 256 GB base config, with the outrageous upgrade costs, is that they're kind of forcing themselves into offering the same exact thing for the M3 series.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 11 месяцев назад +1

      I am sure if all Windows OEMs started at 16GB (they have >90% of the market) then Apple would have to change. But checking out all premium Windows ultrabooks (XPS 13 Plus, Galaxy Book3 Pro, etc) they all start at 8GB. You are banging your head against the wrong wall. Windows has a monopoly and at the moment they have no interest in base 16GB RAM on their ultrabooks; why would Apple change?

    • @user-rz7hg9my6h
      @user-rz7hg9my6h 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@andyH_England Hell, it was Apple that went to 256gb base storage before Microsoft did. Which is surprising to be honest.

    • @jesusbarrera6916
      @jesusbarrera6916 11 месяцев назад

      @@andyH_England dude none of the book3 series start with 8gb... and XPS 13 PLUS at 8gb is only the last 12th gen intel model, they don't make 8gb anymore

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 11 месяцев назад

      @@jesusbarrera6916 You need to do better research. I have an 8GB/256GB Galaxy Book3 Pro, so I know. Just checked the latest gen XPS 13 & XPS 13 Plus, and both start at 8GB for the base in the UK. So I do not know that you are making fake claims. I also checked the MS Surface Pro and a few others; they all start with 8GB. It would help if you were honest with yourself.

    • @jesusbarrera6916
      @jesusbarrera6916 11 месяцев назад

      @@andyH_England look dude I don't live in the UK with barely 67 million other people
      I checked the US sites

  • @blazbohinc4964
    @blazbohinc4964 11 месяцев назад +3

    I've got a 1TB 16inch MBP with M1 Pro and 16GB RAM. I've had it since the fall of 2022 and to this day, I hammer myself over the head for not going with 32GB RAM. It was a 400€ option though. And I already paid 3150€ for it.. At the time it seemed to much. But since I do a lot of windows VMing, I really struggle sometimes. Thank god that first gen 1TB disc is like.. 6.8GB/s to keep up with all the page-ins..

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yes for prosumers, 32GB is the minimum. The 16GB option is best for those buying it for the added luxuries rather than for heavy workloads. Hopefully others reading this comment will take your wise advice and buy 32GB. That $400 is well spent.

    • @jmunt
      @jmunt 11 месяцев назад +1

      I’ve seen a lot of real world tests that couldn’t really find a performance difference when the machine started using ssd swap for memory because the SOC design makes it so efficient. Maybe you found a use case the testers didn’t find but maybe extra memory wouldn’t have helped you

    • @jmunt
      @jmunt 11 месяцев назад +1

      I think the “buy more RAM” common sense advice was 100% true in the intel days but a lot of people don’t realize how different things are nowadays with Apple Silicon

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 11 месяцев назад

      @@jmunt True, for sensible average users 8GB of RAM for ultrabooks is fine. Obviously MaxTech tests were extreme to the point of being irrelevant and people seem to fail to understand that.

  • @kerrydaniels8460
    @kerrydaniels8460 11 месяцев назад

    I'm happy for others. I'm personally thinking of upgrading to a 14inch MBP (or possibly M3) when M3 launches or depending what I find on refurb sites. You can get it for likely around $1400 now so I get a bigger screen with better specs, better screen (mini LED), better ports, etc. while still having that great balance between size, weight, and portability. That's my dream mac at the moment.

  • @shouldersofgiants4649
    @shouldersofgiants4649 11 месяцев назад +1

    I love your "cut to the chase" approach without beating around the bush like most RUclipsrs

  • @movdqa
    @movdqa 11 месяцев назад +5

    I wanted the larger screen and so I got the MBP 16 for about $3,100. I don't need the CPU, GPU horsepower though I do like the 32 GB of RAM. The 16 is a chungus for traveling too. 2 USB-C ports are enough for me. The speakers on the 16 are great but I came from the 2015 MacBook Pro 15 so I could live without it. Now I'm not going to sell my 16 and go out to buy a 15 but I think that I would have gone with the 15 Air if they were out at the same time.

    • @abubakrakram6208
      @abubakrakram6208 11 месяцев назад +1

      They really should’ve just put M2 Pro and a fan in this thing… raise the price by a couple hundred bucks… you would’ve had so much better of a machine.

    • @movdqa
      @movdqa 11 месяцев назад

      @@abubakrakram6208 I think that they want a demarcation between the Air and the Pro. Things will get more interesting when M3 comes out as it should have better thermals and may well not need a fan. I wouldn't mind a 15 inch air with something like 6 efficiency cores and 2 performance cores. Battery life would be insane.

  • @johnmckay1961
    @johnmckay1961 11 месяцев назад +3

    It is lovely. Too big for me personally (I think 13" is the perfect laptop size) but amazing for those who want it.
    Also for a non-pro device, my M2 base-model Air handles 'Pro' tasks shockingly well, crank up the RAM and you have a device that is professional enough for many.

  • @matthiasmartin4355
    @matthiasmartin4355 11 месяцев назад

    I appreciate that your videos value my time.

  • @leob.7606
    @leob.7606 11 месяцев назад

    Quick and simple review. Well delivered.

  • @bryans8656
    @bryans8656 11 месяцев назад +4

    I'm probably going to be in the minority here but I prefer the smaller M2 MBA 13, it's just so crazy portable. When I need big I've got my Mac desktop and 27" monitor. For me that's the best of all worlds.

  • @dirkclaessens1152
    @dirkclaessens1152 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great unbiased and fair review as always! 👍

  • @keithmccann6601
    @keithmccann6601 10 месяцев назад

    nice clear concise review - helpful - thanks :)

  • @hyperspeed1313
    @hyperspeed1313 11 месяцев назад +1

    Props for the quick nod to Apollo

  • @TheUrbanRebel
    @TheUrbanRebel 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have the mac mini m2 512GB +16GB Ram and I think it fits all my needs perfectly as a semi pro video editor who games on the side. No Mans sky just came out for mac and it ran buttery smooth on it at 1080p ultra settings. My Macbook Air M1 couldn’t reach good enough frame rates for me to game on the side with it. I hope this one has simillar gaming performance as the mini m2. Its kindda exciting since Apple is starting to take gaming a bit more seriously. Not that i plan to game seriously on the mac, but at least if I do game, the performance is satisfactory

  • @korpiz
    @korpiz 11 месяцев назад +1

    It’s one of those times I wish I had some use for an laptop so I could get this, but I would just use it at home hooked up to an external screen and mouse and keyboard. I might as well keep using my M1 14” MacBook Pro for that. I think it’s going to last me so many more years.

  • @Merjia
    @Merjia 11 месяцев назад +2

    I was going to go for the 14 inch pro, for the larger screen, but wasn't jazzed about the price, this will probably be everything I need in a laptop without too much modification.

    • @mitchell10394
      @mitchell10394 11 месяцев назад

      I have found some 16 inch M1 Max / Pro and 14 inch ones on the second hand market that are VERY good deals. I recommend checking those out. You're starting with more RAM and storage.

  • @pabloespinoza5711
    @pabloespinoza5711 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the review! 😁

  • @PatrickDunca
    @PatrickDunca 11 месяцев назад

    I wish the 11” still existed. The way you can one hand that device as you walk around a workspace was awesome.

  • @peterbustin2683
    @peterbustin2683 6 месяцев назад +2

    Ive had a MacBook Air 15" for two months now. Its 8GB/512GB is excellent - you dont notice the RAM, as its so fast. Really love it.

  • @markkevnjflores
    @markkevnjflores 11 месяцев назад

    only Dave can pack all important info, features and cons in a short video

  • @boiserunner
    @boiserunner 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video! Any experience with the 14” MBP? I’m curious how it compares to that.

  • @vingttroisheuresdeux
    @vingttroisheuresdeux 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you for pointing out that the SSD speed is no issue. Will take the RAM upgrade then!

  • @aditnagata9211
    @aditnagata9211 7 месяцев назад

    great video. so what is your advice for daily use not heavy user : buy 13 and upgrade ram to 16 gb or buy 15 with the default spec? as they are same price

  • @ssaaffuu
    @ssaaffuu 11 месяцев назад

    the editing is 🔥

  • @alexdelker
    @alexdelker 11 месяцев назад

    Boom, straight to the point. Thanks!

  • @mianhunainhamza
    @mianhunainhamza 11 месяцев назад

    Honestly the legit review of mac i have ever seen Love this review❤

  • @danielgfrimpong
    @danielgfrimpong 11 месяцев назад

    Great video as always ❤

  • @leonardobsjr
    @leonardobsjr 11 месяцев назад

    Loved the Apollo mention

  • @joshh.2802
    @joshh.2802 11 месяцев назад +1

    Before I bought my M1 MBA I worried so much about whether I should pay for the extra ram or get the base model on discount. I can say 2 years later that I have never even one time noticed a lack of ram and I'm very happy I didn't shell out the $ for it. I'm a software engineer tho, not a video editor.

  • @troydaniels8296
    @troydaniels8296 11 месяцев назад

    Great review as always 😊 awesome watch too - what model is that!?

  • @s4kii
    @s4kii 11 месяцев назад

    Love your hair Dude!

  • @Kysen10
    @Kysen10 11 месяцев назад

    3:20 LOL at that gap in sound quality!

  • @jimtan926
    @jimtan926 11 месяцев назад +1

    3:25 jesus that speaker different is just insane

  • @TyTyTy87
    @TyTyTy87 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks Dave

  • @ibrahimsoukak437
    @ibrahimsoukak437 11 месяцев назад

    I had headphones one while listening to the video and it was really surprising how good the speakers on the m2 15" MBA are.

  • @davidbillberg2203
    @davidbillberg2203 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks Dave😄👍

  • @ShivamSingh-zl2pg
    @ShivamSingh-zl2pg 11 месяцев назад

    Hey Dave! Can you make a video on your watch collection? I'd really love to know more about it

  • @robertreyes4243
    @robertreyes4243 11 месяцев назад

    Definitely getting this

  • @Kitty-we6il
    @Kitty-we6il 11 месяцев назад

    omg daves new hairstyle is bangin'

  • @hunterellis7494
    @hunterellis7494 11 месяцев назад

    Great video! We need this vs refurbished M1 Pro 14in (base) from Apple

  • @hamstersmash
    @hamstersmash 11 месяцев назад

    I haven't been on this channel for perhaps... 6 months? Dave be looking like a mad scientist

  • @saisathya6274
    @saisathya6274 11 месяцев назад

    I was expecting a Mbp pro 16 beside the new Air 15 for a better size comparison. Anyways the review was nice and short as usual👍.

  • @konfusus
    @konfusus 8 месяцев назад

    What are your thoughts on the Lenovo Thinkbook Plus Twist / Plus 4G?

  • @colin6711
    @colin6711 9 месяцев назад

    should i get the m2 air 15 or the m2 pro 1
    ? I'm a student just starting out this semester in computer science

  • @TylerRake141
    @TylerRake141 11 месяцев назад +2

    Dave looks younger with that hairstyle lol and i am probably gonna pick up m3 macbook air 15 when it comes out next year