Dispatches: Voices from Long Lartin (1989)
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- Опубликовано: 11 май 2022
- This program documents a prisoner's forum inside HMP Long Lartin organised by PSN member John Bowden in 1989. The unique event was a reflection of the shift in the balance of power between prisoners and guards during the 1970s and 80s and the positive effect of the collective empowerment of prisoners on the regime of the jail. It was the collective self-organisation of prisoners that was responsible for the unique forum and evidence that the collective empowerment of prisoners results in their positive change and liberation.
The Prisoner Solidarity Network is a group of people committed to dismantling the criminal justice system and building a society based on collective care. Our members include people inside and outside of prisons. Some of us are ex-prisoners and some are children, partners, or friends of people inside. Many of us are survivors of interpersonal and state violence. Some of us come to this work through our values rather than direct experience of the prison system.
We want to build a society where conflicts can be resolved without resorting to imprisonment and punishment, where our relationships with each other are not shaped by capitalism and where we are not divided by race, class, or gender.
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My Dad was interviewed in this, He was stitched up by west midlands serious crime squad and later proved his innocence after serving most of his sentence, whole system is corrupt
Lol Say hi to Charlie from me.
It was a fit up that time he took all those hostages 😮ffs
@@ads2829 my father died years ago. thats a very old documentary lol
@@suzannebronson5209 I hope you're well. Can you please still say hello from me. I've also spent a few years away and I've read his books so he helped me through it.
@@suzannebronson5209 I’m sorry to hear of your loss
Charlie Bronson really does stand out even amongst the other lifers etc.
Only cozza that stupid tash....😂😂😂😂
He has proven that prison rarely works. He is totally institutionalised.
That channel 4 intro is total blast from the past..
I thought the exact same thing! It’s funny how small things can get ya thinking about yesteryear!
Like wise
Was just gunna write the very same .. The gd old day's eh troops?😂
I like the way that the video gave the impression that the cells at Long Lartin had toilets. Most, particularly then, didn't, and it took so long to get released from the cells to use the wing toilets, that prisoners were still throwing 'shit parcels' out of the windows well into the 21st century.
Nice to see Andy and John and the helicopter!
A.S.A.B.
Yep lartins on a electric door system toilets are on the landings
people really did their time in those days
@@Dannydawson537 I think it was originally built as a Cat D with a fence, so the doors were supposed to be unlocked, but then they decided they needed another dispersal. You could wait for an hour and a half in the queue to get unlocked. There is a way to jump to the front of the queue, but I'm sworn to secrecy! 😉
Fascinating watch!
I reviewed this documentary when it came out. It's interesting watching it back again but my article was called 'Long Lartin forum sham' and described how the debate which John had initiated, and which he (along with organisations like PROP, ABC and FRFI) was then banned from actually attending, turned into something quite different, where the class nature of imprisonment was never discussed and 'reforming the individual' took centre stage.
Wow great insight thank you
Shouldn’t ‘reforming the individual’ take centre stage?
Your clearly missing the point lad.
People are not imprisoned based on their individual behaviour.
You government, your Tory’s are packed full of thieves murderers war criminals etc etc.
And on they go
For example your current deputy king is not only a child rapist but a senior member of the most insidious child rape gang/cult ever known to man. He was promoted after his child rape was exposed 👍🏻🙃
yes they cut out a lot of important things my dad had spoken about out of the doc.
A young Charlie Bronson he's never getting out
Not if he keeps making podcasts saying he has no regrets and making threats to kill people when he's released
Alan byrne from acton still away Suffering from dementia should be Let' Out
I hadn't read the comments before I commented. I nearly fell off my seat when I saw Charlie Bronson aka Salvador sat in the front row
@@3socksmorgan485 I think part of him doesn't want to leave. He's far too institutionalized. He never received the right level of mental care. I'm talking from a young age. It's a very sad story because he didn't murder anyone.
Is that charlie bronson ?
It’s him definitely
Yep it's him
Was thinking that wen I first see him
cute isnt he
@@danrobinson572look it the fake yank
Charlie been on lock for years that's fucked up
charlie seemed normal..
Charlie Bronson is in this video
@@Phil-tb2yz yeah instantly
Yo bro thanks so much for sharing your thoughts, insights and experiences .. I'm proper finding them fascinating . . .
You are a really articulate, super sharp guy and have got that rare gift of talking street but can paint a picture with your words and intellect.
I'm sounding a patronising prick ... please forgive that.
Look .. do you have an email address ... I got an interesting story to let you in on about Lartin that might make you chuckle.
Big respect to you, brother ... these are so much more than just war stories and you should be rightfully proud of the way you represent you and yours. Fuckin big up you, bro.
Kudos 👏
Yeh man.
Pete G. 🏴
Is that Charlie Bronson with the tash and dungarees?
No it a
Sausage who stay in jail all is life for nish
Have to agree
those two that were wrongly convicted I feel sorry for. Glad they were eventually released after many years of being unlawfully convicted
Nonce case?
@@Christiskingofyou nonot them
@@Christiskingofyou the 2 bermingham lads convicted for bombing wrongly convicted not nonces
Without a doubt they were political prisoners.
Wonder where they all are now? It plays out like the scene in Scum where they all talk about what's wrong with the prison and food etc...
FREE CHARLES BRONSON NOW.
@3.36 is that Charlie bronson
Yeah it is Charlie
My old home in 2001/2005
4:22 Two of the Birmingham Six. Hard to watch knowing they were both innocent but also good to know that three years after the filming of this all six were released and the convictions for murder overturned. Hugh Callaghan passed away in 2023 aged 93. Be nice to believe he lived his life again once released. John Walker currently resides in Ireland.
Jimmy Boyle now there is a legend
Worked at Albany in the 70s and 80s , exactly the same set up.Electronic unlocking and inmates could use the night sanitation, come out of their cells at night to use the shower and toilet.It was strictly regulated but worked well.All in all I think the inmates were happy with the regime and for staff it was an easy relaxed place to work
Fucking hated that night san setup,they were still using in in the mid 90s, you got 3mins to get out and do your business and get back behind your door before your locked out.
@@Del-Blanco-Diablo yeah putting the rush on a fella messes his flow
@@Del-Blanco-Diablo was different than that when I worked there, 10 mins out and we called you up to return to your cell, never locked anyone out
All the guys here "Is that Charlie B..!" Ffs there is only 1guy that could pull of a tash like that in the jail & not get the c$#t takin out of him!! 😂😂
The "chapel", hot bed of deals and escape plans..
Ain’t they all tho
Was that charles bronson lol
Yeah it is Charlie most definitely.
@@danrobinson572 never known Charlie on normal location he’s usually down the seg on lay downs, but yes that’s him, up to mischief as always
@@Alanhock75 he was on normal often, hence all them hostages
say, like made of stone n tickle my feet story. I think parko H3 or H2 was the start . I think yeah
10 minutes, is that a young Chris Morris. If it isn't, then Brasseye was one hell of a satire!
How young Charlie Bronson looks😂 the guy is class
Class at staying banged up unnecessarily for 30 plus years he needn't have. 😂😂😂 brill. Well done Chaz
Empty head you mean
Is Reggie Kray in this video ?
Is that Charles Bronson at 8.19 ?
Yup. He's speaking at 34:14
No , it's mickey mouse.
Hope Charlie gets his freedom I sent him a letter in 2006 and got a Christmas card back
Charlie is wiser now actually his words were wise. Let him out..
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
saying 43s without saying what section number creates confusions I think
nonce are now rule 45
is the light skin fella, lord ?
I think that was name from Waze daze .
JB..I enjoyed his book n Brendan B and his Feltham times .
even that Nicky Cruz was a blinder.. I bet there's some gr8 books now I don't know .
didn't even know JPig book til I left uk , years later from yt.
any recs lads
Damage done Warren fellows..... Black hand boxer enriques...... The iceman Phillip carlo....
The only difference between prison and outside is, inside your just a number and outside your just a name .
We came in to this world a number and we go out one aswell
See Charlie bronsen sitting there
Nowadays Long Lartin is the biggest supermax in Europe right ?
I don’t know if it’s the biggest ‘super max’ in Europe but it does have the largest seg unit in Europe
Charlie bronson is in this
The boys of rhe Birmingham six brave brave strong men
Bronson on the yard lol
Let Charlie out
Charles Salvador aka Bronson is only sat in the front row holding the sign up
They say they're sentences with a straight face. The guy said "18 years for rape" SMH 🤦🏾♂️
I was shocked, I thought he would have been on the numbers. I'm surprised the other prisoners wanted to be seen with him on camera.
Yeah the dirty bastard 18 years for rape SCUMBAG
@@bennym5244long Lartin don’t have a VP wing they get thrown into the mix
@@DontBeAWollyy how come he has noy been got at
@@pauljones8218 how do I know ask the inmates
Isn't that Charlie Branson???
The guy holding the sighne
No , it's mickey mouse 💯👍
free charlie bronson
That's Charles bronson definitely he will be free soon
4743 Carlin.
Lol
Too many years waisted
anyone know of Carl thakur ,stonebrige and Chaz Irvine , Paddington bout mid 50s now and MC avoy who got out dorm roof in 81 ?
Smithy light skin n Frankie Johnson, all south house lads.
I wonder about em even now.
Steve mc carthy not at all taking of 43s protect
Knew Carl well!
So bad what happened to the Birmingham 7 when you see what they lost n when filming this they still had 4 more years left ✌️💚😈
What is the Birmingham 7 all about?
@@solefreak2 I might have the number of men wrong it's 6 or 7 i do know Guildford 4 but Birmingham 🤔🚩🚩
@@solefreak2 definitely 6 🙃
@@iansettle7764 Yeah read up about it..
@@solefreak2 you just carry on being a sarcastic bell end n that didn't take much looking up, have you always been so helpful, i didn't say i was an expert on the subject, WHY tf attitude 😹
Why do prisoners even get to voice their opinions? Did they care when committing the crimes? I don't think so. Do your bird fools
You sound a lovely I’ll informed dipstick
Stan Thompson broke out of a nick with Jimmy moody and an IRA man😅
2 of the Birmingham 6 feel remorse?I doubt it
Can’t do time don’t do crime.
Those people in the toilets on the m1 are still there waiting for you Charlie ...you big divvy !
Would u say that to his face.😂
@@weneverstop.4640 Yes ...but he's in his cell for a long time more ...no one gets parole straight out of cat a ...he knows that too ...he's institutionalized and mentally ill ... He could have been out years ago ....he's a crank ...
@@weneverstop.4640 Not a sniff would gruff the biff have the balls to get into a physical tiff
No scence of freedom in here,😂😂😂 thats the whole idea of why you go to prison, cons are the biggest , wingers in the world, i no because i serverd time, in prison and trust thay winge, thay grass on each other over the most trivial things, in the world,,😂😂😂
Juventus played the prison football team on a couple of occasions.
I bet you don’t remember or know about that do you ?
And Santa Claus delivered the Xmas presents
@@lestc8579 dont forget the easter bunny and also the tooth fairy