Mobil 1 vs. Amsoil. Search for the best synthetic oil. Bench testing (part 1)
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- Amsoil versus Mobil. When is comes to performance oils there are few names mentioned more and Amsoil and Mobil1. Each high end full synthetic oil has a claim to fame, in this testing series we will push the oils to their limits as we search for stats and performance.
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so, what was the conclusion? Which oil is better, Amsoil or Mobile 1? Please end the video with a conclusion.
I ran Mobil 1 in my airplane and had no problems. I do run Mobil 1 in my motorcycle and pickup truck. I also change it at 3000 miles. I'm a Mobil 1 guy.
I've used Amsoil Signature Series 0W-40 vs Mobil 1 0W-40 European Formula in my car a few months ago. Both oils were used for 5,000 miles and I observed that the Mobil 1 sheared more than the Amsoil. A normal person wouldn't tell the difference with the engine noise but I paid very close attention and I can just tell Mobil 1 sheared/degraded because the engine was running more rough, it was a bit noisier and had a raspy feeling to it. Amsoil felt the same from beginning to end of the oil's life, which is a really good thing. The chart in the end supports what I felt in my observations between the two. Used Amsoil's hot viscosity dropped 0.6 seconds. Used Mobil 1 hot viscosity dropped 1.4 seconds. This illustrates the shearing/degradation is greater in Mobil 1. Makes me wonder how much shearing takes place in the real world with multiple heat cycles, longer oil intervals, especially in car enthusiast's cars where oils will be hotter than normal. I'm glad your evidence supports what I observed and hopefully my insight contributes to the community. Great videos.
Thanks so much for the comment. I hope many people are able to read this.
You do realize Amsoil is a pyramid scheme. Top guy gets people under him they get people under them. Remember amway? They had the best products right ? yeah it’s all bullshit. Amsoil and mobile 1 hell even Walmart’s super tech all have the same rating from API American petroleum institute. They put all these oils through-testing and then rate them. Don’t be fooled and save money
@@coldcoilinc Fact is, Amsoil brought synthetic oil to the marketplace and it is the best oil you can buy. Also, you can buy the oil from an Amsoil dealer without getting caught up the supposed pyramid scheme. (Which it isn't, it's an MLM)
Thank you, your comment sold me on Amsoil vs Mobil1
@@TheBeatenPaths you have to pay amsoil,, 😒 🙄 to be able to buy it.
Man what a video and all you effort for the testing. but what is the best oil between the two? You did an excellent job but sometime we want to get get to the point, sorry to put it that way. Good job keep up the work!!!!
Appreciate the effort and thx for the video. But what does testing motor oil at 120 degrees prove? Like you said, motor oil in a car engine runs at 200+.
Mobil 1 is a syn blend oil. Amsoil is 100 % syn oil. Look into it. Biggest scam taking advantage of people.
Turns out 100% synthetic and full synthetic are the same thing. Apparently, Amsoil is a 100% blend of group 3 and group 4 base stock just like full synthetics are. Pursuant to a 1990’s law suit between Castrol and Mobil 1, courts ruled that group 3 and 4 base oils are synthetic, therefore any oil that contains one or both of those groups, regardless of proportions, can be called synthetic. So as long as Amsoil contains group 3, even if it’s 100% group 3, they can legally call it 100% synthetic. Thus, 100% synthetic and full synthetic are synonymous. Amsoil admitted this in one of their own blogs.
I just read and amsoil is a mix of group 4 and group 5. Plus amsoil has no trace of mineral conventional in it, Mobil 1 does tho, but the amount can vary.
@@gabrieldetwiler7078even many cars on plain ,,regular oil,, do great. So amsoil is really not,, even mandatory. Save your 💰 🤑 💸 💲
AMSOIL does make a 30-weight oil for small engines FYI.
Yes
Amsoil hands down there are so many testimonies about it that it sells itself..
Amsoil is way overpriced. Also,, many top tier oils offer Top 👌 👏 TOP. PROTECTION AT LESS THAN HALF THE PRICE
If i ever run marbles in my engine i guess ill watch the rest of the vid. 😂
No marbles were used in this test.
Your comparing signature to regular Mobil 1?
Title is misleading though, one is a Full Synthetic and the other 100% Synthetic, different classes of oil.
Yeah, what Stephen said. What's the difference, Melmo?
@@BPoweredLove A quick google or youtube search will help you. There is a difference between a full and 100% synthetic
@Stephen Horak google or youtube the difference. There certainly is a difference between a full and 100% synthetic
Turns out 100% synthetic and full synthetic are the same thing. Apparently, Amsoil is a 100% blend of group 3 and group 4 base stock just like full synthetics are. Pursuant to a 1990’s law suit between Castrol and Mobil 1, courts ruled that group 3 and 4 base oils are synthetic, therefore any oil that contains one or both of those groups, regardless of proportions, can be called synthetic. So as long as Amsoil contains group 3, even if it’s 100% group 3, they can legally call it 100% synthetic. Thus, 100% synthetic and full synthetic are synonymous. Amsoil admitted this in one of their own blogs.
Yes...lake speed said the same thing.@@JohnnyUtah9173
Best test between the Group4/5 real syn AMSOIL and the Group 3 Mobil 1 phony syn would be "Flash Point".
You are the cleanest mechanic I've ever met!
I do what I can!
Agree!
Lol,,that’s what I was thinking
Thanks for the time and work for this 👍🏼
Thanks for the comment and support!
I do believe amzoil is the best.But it's double the price. And I wouldn't feel comfortable, leaving any oil in my vehicle for 15,000 miles ?
Run both engines without oil and see which oneast longer for film strength testing
We did. Check out the video.
So after all that you have no opinion which oil was best? This video pushed mu patients to the limits.
Did you watch part 2? This is part 1.
ruclips.net/video/wak8bnOBbM8/видео.html
Heat? Dirt? I dont see how this resembles oil actually being used in an engine. I see oils sticking to plastic gears.
It’s a bench test. Not an engine test. And if you have dirt in your oil you might wanna check your filter👍🏻
Mobile one advanced synthetic has a better oil psi rating..
I use Royal Purple in my '68 Chevelle 350ci and in my 2002 Z28 ...
Royal purple has been good to me so far. Honestly Amsoil, Mobil 1, and Royal purple has been all positive experiences for me.
The vanilla Royal Purple you can find on the shelf at Autozone is formulated identical to Valvoline Advanced synthetic. The only difference is the purple dye. Same group III base oils and same SN+ add pack.
Rich Ki. You'll soon replace your 350ci and the LS-1 in your 02 Z/28. Are you kidding, purple oil ?
you need zinc in older cars to keep your engine running and Amsoil makes some for just that purpose @@ricktaylor3748
@@ZandomGame amsoil has a Z-Rod oil. High in zinc for older engines.
what are top 3 oils brands for gasoline engines in USA from your opinion ?
Amsoil, Mobil 1, and Royal Purple
Amsoil, Pennzoil, Mobil 1
No contest amsoil hands down.
IV heard Castrol oil?
So the mobil 1 is thicker overall the coin test the amsoil lost? and thy were the same on the last test? so which on is better??
You don't test engine oils on gears. Clinging to gears requires tackifiers, usually in the form of isobutylenes. Engine oils do not contain tackifiers since engines are lubricated with a pressurized oiling system. Tackiness is only important in machinery that operates by splash lubrication such as rear gears/diffs and manual transmissions. It has no relevance to an engine.
Almizzy Racing
You have some fair points but you are overall.....
Wrong.
Most engines built before 1996 rely on splash lubrications for rockers valves and cylinder walls. Small engines still made today like the engines that will be tested and are making the used oil still use primarily splash lubrication. Also if the oil has no “tackiness “ how would it stay in the engine for cold start purposes. For the short time before the oil pressure has sent oil to all the bearing surfaces?
Close but missing some key elements.
@@OranthumLLC All of the areas you mentioned operate in mixed and boundary lubrication where the additive package is far more important than the base oil. Tackifiers don't make the additive package work. The additives, often based in ester themselves, do that job on their own. If your oil filter has a functioning anti-drainback valve, oil will be there for the bearings when the engine is started.
Almizzy Racing
Ok.....
So you are saying that the oil does nothing and the additives do the lubricating.
That in and if itself is true.
The point is the “oil” being placed in the engine, any engine is a colloid fluid made up of carbon chains whether it be esters, butain chains , hexains , perifins or pentains does not really matter they are all mixed together into a specific formula. That is called oil. Mobile one Amzoil Pennzoil all have their own special mixes.
I am not saying your factual statment is wrong . I am actualy confused as to why you claim that one oil clinging to gears does not mater.
It does. Both to much cling and to little are bad.
Also why does it really mater what specific part of the oil is doing the clinging the mixture as a whole is being tested.
Last I will give you the Benefit of a brain slip while typing fast. Oil filters do not have anti drain back that is in the pump assembly. They resist flow slightly in one direction. Fuel filters do have Check valves in them oil filters do not.
@@OranthumLLC Most oil filters do have "ANTI DRAIN BACK VALVES" in them for the purpose of keeping the oil in the filter for the next start up!
wayne owen
Yes you are correct. if it is not a BMW canister filter or a filter that sits at the bottom of the pump. some filters do have anti drain back some do not.
Even anti drain back filters do not keep oil in the bearings for very long.
I would like to see the 3 AMSOIL oils tested against each other. OE, XL, Signature. Is there really that much difference or is it marketing?
I’m not sure what the differences are. Once we go through and test all the major oil brands. I’m sure will come back around and start testing the different varieties of each brand.
Yes please do this test.
I would like to see you test Full Synthetic Motorcraft,Honda & Toyota Oil.
So when will be the severe engine test?
ruclips.net/video/wak8bnOBbM8/видео.html
what are top 5 oils brand from france? for gasoline.. in my country, Motul very popular.. and from USA, Amsoil and Redline.. i'm from indonesian
Thanks for watching.
Great job bro 😊👍
Thanks for the comment
OK Signature Seiries Amsoil. Good oil. Now . . . you cannot BREAK IN a new motor on syntheitic oil. At least a 30 minute breaking is required with a Break In oil before beginning our tests in the motors. All the other are fine.
As true as that may or may not be, it wouldn’t matter because all the engines are going through the exact same parameters.
not even a side by side comparison of them being dropped in the tubes? what good did it do for viewers to guess which might have went faster than the other
This is literally the definition of side by side and you don’t have to guess I showed what the times were at the end on a spread sheet.
That "Bench Test" is only a marketing toy. It has no significance to a real test. It's like using a hand crank egg beater to test a gear oil transfer rate.
I hope that next time you will try Petronize oils that carry a special technology to prevent friction and compare them with other oil companies
Petronize oil
ROFLMAO
Did I just watch a video where "Viscosity" was tested by "hand" speed rotation?
Then timed....
Why are you putting syrup in the engines?
Haha it really does look like syrup when it’s new. I’d love to do one of these engines with syrup and see what happens.
Skip to 5:40 for start of test
These tests are a little funky 🤨
This sounds crazy but I thought about this and I think that using conventional motor oil is better than synthetic for engine startup or if some how your oil leaks out it sticks to the metal butter. I'm no oil chemist so don't just take this as good info because I'm just thinking about it.
synthetic is better less break found is thinner which is better for winter start ups
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣 conventional oil is better on cold starts?? You have to be joking right?? WTF??
I still run full synthetic but Ford recommended a synthetic blend to me. They claim its best of both worlds but who knows.
That Amsoil is made for cars I am so ill makes a power sports oil for air cooled engines
Top notch testing!
Thanks for the comment!
My Honda Accord sounds better with the Amsoil signature series than it does with the mother, one extended performance with a mobile one extended performance my engine is more raspy. Kind of sounds like the voice of Lou Rawls….. you’ll never find someone who loves you more!!
What turns me away from Amsoil? The 70’s style salesmen they all come off to be. Some of the most annoying people on the planet. I’ll stick with the oils on the wal mart shelf. I’ve been a Diesel engine and gas turbine compressor mechanic in the AF for the last 19 ½ years. Know what brand oils our PW and GE F16 engines are running? What oil do our AGE equipment both diesel and gas powered run? Not Amsoil 😆. People get hung up on the “best” oil when preventive maintenance and routine oil changes are the key. Stop obsessing with putting the “best” oil in your vehicles when most don’t even do oil changes properly. You Amsoil loyalists try to convince everyone to switch because you feel the need to over pay for oil in your Pontiac fierro’s!
So you can run the most generic oil in your engine and get similar results to anything else? no engine wear or anything like that?
My Pontiac Fierro deserves the best. ;-)
You hit the nail on the head
I would not expect Amsoil's cheap oil to outperform Mobil 1.You should be using Amsoil SIGNATURE oil to find the best.
It says signature series on the bottle of Amsoil.
What's wrong with you, Louis? That was Signature.
Dramatic difference in price
Great work!
Thanks David. Appreciate all your knowledge and help on these topics!
My Amsoil is never that dark with 4;000 miles on the oil
Amsoil is good stuff!
Also he didnt use Mobile 1. Advanced 20.000. Miles oil here . This teSt is unfair😮😮
Are you saying if I used mobil 1 advanced it would have performed worse? This Mobil 1 I used already out performed amsoil. There wouldn’t be a reason to retest.
Dude WTH?? It’s lotttssss of information. Which is better??????
If it’s too much information, you can skip to the end of the video.
Im choose amsoil
Highly inconclusive test
There is a part 2. This is only half of it. ruclips.net/video/wak8bnOBbM8/видео.html
That gear test is fallacy.
Mobil 1 for sludge!!!
No.....for the win!
Who cares about project farm. This is not the same tests and shows information PF doesn’t. Nice work and good unique, thoughtful testing!
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Your temp ranges are nowhere near the actual operating temps of an engine, I sorry dude ,but your tests are meaningless. Check out project farm, his tests were somewhat more meaning full like ASTM tests.
I never said they were operating temperature. Meaningless? I’m sorry you don’t understand bench tests, but that doesn’t make my tests meaningless. One of the reasons I started testing was project farms videos. All he does is freeze oil then grind two pieces of metal together. Just in case you don’t know engines don’t run like that. Also last time I checked boiling oil until it’s black doesn’t mean it’s used oil. I actually am using used oil.
dennis rantanen
I don’t think meaningless is used properly in your comment.
Yes you and project farm are a bit different in your methods but still in yet it’s a great comparison test. I just spent $95 on 6 quarts of amsoil and a mobile 1 filter for my 04 GTO. I used mobile 1 last time and with an ac delco filter. It cost me about $50. So yes you can save money by using mobile 1 in a non performance application. I switched to amsoil because my engine is modified and I race so I want the best oil for the application. So yes I appreciate what you’ve done here.
2020
Not very scientific
"motorplus"
о чём вы тут?
You talk too much
I have to explain the parameters and walk through it every video. If not, I get a ton of questions. I’d rather talk too much on video than text explanations all day.
Castrol is better than both so...
Castrol is on the list to test! What oil should I test it against?
@@TenzaMotorsports Pennzoil Platinum
@@TenzaMotorsports anything
Just make sure the tests are done at operating temperature
@@TenzaMotorsports castrol edge titanium extended performance 0w20
Pennzoil Ultra Platinum or even the regular Platinum