honestly can't thank this guy enough for teaching me something everone else seems to think is common knowledge. As a guitar player, nobody gets deep into how duets work and only into solo use of said instrument. this will help so much with the piano sound I'm trying to implement. Thanks man.
Couldn't have said it better myself, too many forget there's more than just a front man or guitarist making the music. Again, thank you for the video :)
MangoldProject i have a band mate who play organ and i play electric guitar i have mo idea how since im not used to it. I just tell him that we need to press the same chordshapes. But i heard that we still classed what should we do
Appreciate Video clip! Forgive me for the intrusion, I would love your opinion. Have you researched - Riddleagan Possessing Piano Remedy (do a google search)? It is a good one off guide for learning how to play the piano easily minus the hard work. Ive heard some decent things about it and my friend at very last got amazing success with it.
I've played piano like 30 years. Lead worship music at a church for a couple years . But I was raised on classical. This video is so helpful. Thanks ! I'll probably watch a few times.
Man this was really eye opening for me trying to learn how to combine sounds more effectively in a production situation. Stellar content as always dude thanks!
You presented three options not two :o HOW TO NOT CLASH IN MUSICAL ARRANGEMENT: 1) different freuquency playing 2) different rythm 3) playing a 100% in sync ( more for super professional players-eexample ACDC Black to Black) THANKS A LOT THIS WAS SOOO GOOD! SUPER SIMPEL, JUST THE NECESSARY INFORMATION- LOVED IT! THANKS TRUE GENIUS CAN EXPLAIN SIMPLEEE!!! :)
great video - helped me lots. I'm a guitarist (unpopular figure from almost all the pianists here) who plays with pianist at church. It sounds great when piano and guitar play together in their respective frequency.
Amazing! The clashing is like imagining and extra pair of hands taking up the piano! I've just taken up piano as a hobby recently and the notions explained in your videos are easy digest.
Thank you. I wonder about what makes my band sounds "like a war". Hope after applicate this, my band will sounds better. Thanknyou for the lesson. This is so priceless.
Thank you! This tutorial was both incredibly useful and entertaining. 8 years late to the party, but I will definitely be using this advice, when I play with my bandmates and friends we sometimes clash, as you put it, so this will be some interesting stuff to try out! I'll probably combine a bit of the two options, if I'm being honest, especially since option two is pretty hard to maintain 😅.
Thanks heaps...this bit of info was exactly what I was looking for...I much appreciate your generosity in sharing your knowledge...kindest regards Mel from Australia...✌💜😃
I play guitar with a pianist often. I tune my guitar to DADGAD tuning, which gives me more interesting chords that sound great with my pianist. I also simplify rhythm when I strum, and will fingerpick or play whole-note strums in a drop.
Thanks for the tips! I find that strumming can be complex, but the more complex it becomes, the more important it is that the keyboardist either "dials down" his own complexity, or matches yours exactly.
exactly the video I was looking for considering the piano its a full spectrum instrument and the guitar takes basically the same freq range that normally a piano plays. Thank you so much for this
It would be easier if you make a video of full band + piano in different styles so se can see how it’s the best way to play with different voices and such. You can make an entire series and that would bless many many lives
Got any more tips on this subject? I have been looking for this for a long time. And the funny thing is when you ask a teacher this they can't explain it nearly as simple as you just did.
one way that I deal with this scenario in a band setting (with at least an acoustic and electric gtr) is to not only alter my voicing but also the chord qualities. for example for the C chord using a C2 or Csus or extended chords with melody and ear guiding what I will actually play
+Sasmit Rudra I'll look into it. I've played with plenty of guitar players and think I have some good insights to offer. However, the basic ideas always stay the same: either be really in sync with the guitar player, or stay out of each other's way.
Actually at the moment I am fortunate enough to be playing in a band with a fine guitarist. I tend to have a rather dry sense of humor at times, please accept my apologies if I have offended any of you competent guitar players out there. Then again, if the shoe fits... Great posting by the way.
The way you play your chords sound very nice and fluid. So are u using the inversion chords? BTW thanks for your videos, I watched them all, very inspiring, sweet and perfect.
Very important for pianists and guitarists to learn how to play together. Typically guitars follow the rythym/beat of the drums. At the small church i used to play guitar in, I'd tend to get thrown off by the piano and loose track of the drums. She was definitely playing as if alone lol and drove me nuts🤣
I strongly recommend all the guitar players here to try some fingerpicking. It gets 100 times easier to play along with the piano than while using a pick
Hey,thanks for the tips! I am a singer, guitarist and also I have been playing piano since one year now.I used to mostly accompany my voice with guitar until indidn't learn piano but now i carry both-my guitar and piano with me in gigs to give different flavours in different songs that i sing ,since some of the songs are upbeat and some are mellow.I want to make myself better at accompanying my voice with piano.I own a PXS 3000(casio) which also has the capability to layer strings/organs/pads and many other tones over it.Could you suggest me how i shall approach for now?I mean should I also take care of the layering and stuff since i love it in live performances or should i only work with piano sounds for now?It's a 2 man band-I handle the piano/guitar at once and i have an accompanist on tabla with me. 🙏🏻please help
Hello and thanks for that. I play classical guitar and my sister piano. I've trying to find some nice melodic songs to play together (including singing), but I can't seem to find any. Do you or anyone else here have suggestions?
Thanks for this :) can you please make a more detailed video about left hand progressions. right now i am limited to playing a chord at its root position or one of its inversions or in an octave form. what i want to say is, that while playing a chord with left hand my hand position is static.I can arpeggiate, but it will be using the same notes which i held at first. How do i bring a motion at my left hand playing? I really want to improve it by like playing the root note at the lower register and then playing an arpeggio one octave higher and move one octave more. while playing the same chord. and make the rhythm sound connected for all chords. what should be the finger positions to be able to play like that? as currently even though i can figure out in my mind what notes i have to play, i am unable to do so. maybe due to wrong finger positions. Thanks!
+Abhishek Verma Hi Abhishek. I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for, but I'll try and think of some ideas. If there are any specific videos/patterns you have in mind share a link and I'll take a look.
Thank u very much for the time spent on this video tutorial . Please how can u do the guitar struming for piano separately from slow to fast in an easy to understand manner?
An option I didn't see you know that is determine who's going to play Melody line who is going to play the chords. So when your face the piano play The Melody line
As sad as it is, as guitarists we must simplify our strum pattern even down to one strum per chord to accompany a piano leading more complexly. Generally, as the complexity of one instrument rises, the other instruments simplify.
Loved the lesson AND the cat. It gets harder when you have to stay out of the way of the guitar AND the bass, isn't it? Left hand can't go too low nor too high.
I have to get out of the way of a guitarist, a bassist, a percussionist, a saxophonist, an accordionist, and singers 😝... where do I fit with my piano? 😭
Dear Mangold, I believe you are the ideal person to propose a third way to accompany a guitar .That is playing in the same spectum but with rootless chords .I shall be glad to hear something about it.
No, even rootless chords will clash if they're occupying the same frequency & rhythmical ranges. It doesn't matter if they contain the root or not. Rootless chords would be a good idea to play when jamming with a bass player, though!
the hardest part is to compete with guitars in the mid range. I play in the cover band and we have a lot of guitar-based music, like AC/DC. Im struggling to find proper role of the keyboard in such music.
If guitars have already occupied all available frequency range, you need to work closely with the guitar players to either lock into their rhythm, or maybe just accept the fact you can't squeeze in and sit out for the song.
Hey good evening! Could you tell us what keyboard (or digital piano you use)?? I'm looking forward to buy one but never knew the one you use was one (I want to know it's model specially because its piano sound is sooo good, and knowing that I wouldn't br stuck with it only makes me happy).. I don't even know if you'll read or reply to this, but thank you anyway for giving all these tips to us (your subscribers) for free!! Have a good day (same for anyone reading this :D )!!
Your guitar voicings for C and G are backward. G has 6 notes (135131/GBDGBG) and C has 5 (13513/CEGCE). I'm sure it's just a slip because they're perfectly flipped. I'm a guitar player, of course. Good thoughts on playing together!
Ah, maybe I made a mistake describing those. I don't always catch all those little mistakes when editing videos (it's surprising how many I make just out of absent-mindedness ... )
You can play the same chord on the guitar in many different ways so it's not necessarily these exact notes that you've shown in the beginning. But it's still a good lesson.
+MangoldProject Yes, I know that you showed the notes that you played on the guitar. But you said in the beginning: "The C chord on the guitar is actually voiced like this... /shows the C chord/", and later: "So what your friend is strumming is... /shows the notes on the keyboard/" which sounds like the C chord is played on the guitar this exact way. But it's not the only way. You showed this because you played the C major on the guitar but not every guitarist has to play it that way. I just wanted to say it because it may be misleading for some people that have never played the guitar. Keep well. Greetings from Poland.
As a guitar player, I can tell you the notes you give for the guitar chords are not correct for F and G. the F is also actually Fadd9 This guitar is capo'd at the fifth fret and the notes are: C: C3-E3-G3-C4-G4-C5 (as shown) Fadd9: F3-A3-C4-G4-C5 G: G3-D4-G4-B4 Notice that the top three notes in the C and Fadd9 are all the same. It's a kind of pedal tone effect that's common in pop guitar playing. The G uses a different voicing because... well, guitar reasons. It has to do with how open strings are used.
"The two of you might clash"
proceeds to play the most beautiful piece my ears have ever come across
honestly can't thank this guy enough for teaching me something everone else seems to think is common knowledge. As a guitar player, nobody gets deep into how duets work and only into solo use of said instrument. this will help so much with the piano sound I'm trying to implement. Thanks man.
The problem is most musicians don't have basic decency. They're rude. They want to be heard and never think of the total outcome as a whole.
Couldn't have said it better myself, too many forget there's more than just a front man or guitarist making the music. Again, thank you for the video :)
MangoldProject i have a band mate who play organ and i play electric guitar i have mo idea how since im not used to it. I just tell him that we need to press the same chordshapes. But i heard that we still classed what should we do
@@MangoldProject true brotha.
Appreciate Video clip! Forgive me for the intrusion, I would love your opinion. Have you researched - Riddleagan Possessing Piano Remedy (do a google search)? It is a good one off guide for learning how to play the piano easily minus the hard work. Ive heard some decent things about it and my friend at very last got amazing success with it.
I've played piano like 30 years. Lead worship music at a church for a couple years . But I was raised on classical. This video is so helpful. Thanks ! I'll probably watch a few times.
This is a brilliant lesson. I play with a band in church and this is really helpful. Thank you!
The result of standing in front of many Marshall amps during many practice sessions :)
Man this was really eye opening for me trying to learn how to combine sounds more effectively in a production situation. Stellar content as always dude thanks!
Pog
You presented three options not two :o
HOW TO NOT CLASH IN MUSICAL ARRANGEMENT:
1) different freuquency playing
2) different rythm
3) playing a 100% in sync ( more for super professional players-eexample ACDC Black to Black)
THANKS A LOT THIS WAS SOOO GOOD! SUPER SIMPEL, JUST THE NECESSARY INFORMATION- LOVED IT! THANKS
TRUE GENIUS CAN EXPLAIN SIMPLEEE!!! :)
That's exactly what has lived in my head for so many years but i haven't been able to explaining properly! Thanks
great video - helped me lots. I'm a guitarist (unpopular figure from almost all the pianists here) who plays with pianist at church. It sounds great when piano and guitar play together in their respective frequency.
And absolutely terrible when you're the guitarist trying to follow the drums and the painist is in their own world 🤣.
Amazing! The clashing is like imagining and extra pair of hands taking up the piano! I've just taken up piano as a hobby recently and the notions explained in your videos are easy digest.
Love the organ option, fits and sounds great
Thank you. I wonder about what makes my band sounds "like a war". Hope after applicate this, my band will sounds better. Thanknyou for the lesson. This is so priceless.
4:22 6:05 7:33
You are brilliant. I have struggled with this for so long.
Thank you! This tutorial was both incredibly useful and entertaining. 8 years late to the party, but I will definitely be using this advice, when I play with my bandmates and friends we sometimes clash, as you put it, so this will be some interesting stuff to try out! I'll probably combine a bit of the two options, if I'm being honest, especially since option two is pretty hard to maintain 😅.
Blessings to you brother, such an amazing topic and explanation is marvellous. You tube should give you an award for this creativity.
what was that random applause at 4:58 hahaha nice video
LOL
Its to mark the clip for editing process.. the clap can be seen in audio wave
@@adarqiz4dzlaeff lol that's why it seemed so NPC-like.
P.S. Great vid, just what i was looking for :)
Thanks heaps...this bit of info was exactly what I was looking for...I much appreciate your generosity in sharing your knowledge...kindest regards Mel from Australia...✌💜😃
I play guitar with a pianist often. I tune my guitar to DADGAD tuning, which gives me more interesting chords that sound great with my pianist. I also simplify rhythm when I strum, and will fingerpick or play whole-note strums in a drop.
Thanks for the tips! I find that strumming can be complex, but the more complex it becomes, the more important it is that the keyboardist either "dials down" his own complexity, or matches yours exactly.
Aw cool...thanks for that...thats awesome too...✌💜😃
Thank you sir, God bless you and your family
exactly the video I was looking for considering the piano its a full spectrum instrument and the guitar takes basically the same freq range that normally a piano plays. Thank you so much for this
Still playing?
@@ShaneChilly Yes I am.
loved the tutorial... and the cat too
My cats have cost me more failed takes than I care to remember ...
Pussy makes the world go round'
When is the cat
@@zekelemieux7829 8:55
so simpel and so cool thank you a lot ! perfect! no unnecessary informations just on point love it!
Thank you for doing this video I can’t Wait to Play with my friend
You’re a great teacher, very knowledgeable
Thank you for putting this lesson together. It is extremely helpful!
Excellent tips! I play with guitar players all the time ! I will us these tips ! Thank you!! Lee
Thanks a lot . My friend and I play over the Same chord progression and our sound always clashes. I was looking for something like this :)
Can you make a Piano and Bass : Tips for playing together. That would be awesome !! Please !
+Juan carlos Cruz de los santos Ok, I'll add it to my queue :)
It would be easier if you make a video of full band + piano in different styles so se can see how it’s the best way to play with different voices and such. You can make an entire series and that would bless many many lives
This is a well thought out refresher course for a studious engineer.
Not sure engineers were my target audience, but what the heck :)
Got any more tips on this subject? I have been looking for this for a long time. And the funny thing is when you ask a teacher this they can't explain it nearly as simple as you just did.
One more tip: turn the guitar player's amp towards him. That will make him play quieter and save you from ringing in your ears :).
YOU SAVED MY LIFE THANK YOU
Thank you so much for your most interesting tutorials!!🎶🎹
If me and my cousin who plays guitar tried to duet it would be like mixing sugar and pepper then putting it on lasagna
Underrated comment
Same bro, I'm the pianist and my cousin is a guitarist
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Very helpful! God bless!❤️
You're the man, this is gold!
The pun is not lost upon me.
It’s a treasure😍
Thank you for this video it’s priceless!
one way that I deal with this scenario in a band setting (with at least an acoustic and electric gtr) is to not only alter my voicing but also the chord qualities. for example for the C chord using a C2 or Csus or extended chords with melody and ear guiding what I will actually play
Very helpful...Thank you so much !! can u pl upload some more videos on the same topic with different examples?
+Sasmit Rudra I'll look into it. I've played with plenty of guitar players and think I have some good insights to offer. However, the basic ideas always stay the same: either be really in sync with the guitar player, or stay out of each other's way.
Thanks for you reply!!!
can you make a video explaining how or when you can do all those pass notes or whatever arregment u made between chords?
very useful tips. Thanks!!
Thank you for this interesting (and entertaining) video!😊
Awesome video, a very important topic that not many explain.
Really helpful. Thanks buddy❤️
Actually at the moment I am fortunate enough to be playing in a band with a fine guitarist. I tend to have a rather dry sense of humor at times, please accept my apologies if I have offended any of you competent guitar players out there. Then again, if the shoe fits... Great posting by the way.
The way you play your chords sound very nice and fluid. So are u using the inversion chords? BTW thanks for your videos, I watched them all, very inspiring, sweet and perfect.
Yes, I use inversions all the time.
yeah so that when you're playing with the band,the rythm sounds clean and smooth. That's what I'm doing if we were on jamming.
Nice! Another way to plY along with a guitarrist is playing the scale notes two octaves apart in each hand.
It was very very helpful. Thank you!!
Lovely lesson. simply splendious.
Love your tutorial Thank you
I really like playing guitar. :)
Thats right guitar is the best good thing im guitar player
Thanks! This was very helpful
Very important for pianists and guitarists to learn how to play together. Typically guitars follow the rythym/beat of the drums. At the small church i used to play guitar in, I'd tend to get thrown off by the piano and loose track of the drums.
She was definitely playing as if alone lol and drove me nuts🤣
Man, a crappy band member can tank a band. I've suffered through similar cases ...
I strongly recommend all the guitar players here to try some fingerpicking. It gets 100 times easier to play along with the piano than while using a pick
Hey,thanks for the tips!
I am a singer, guitarist and also I have been playing piano since one year now.I used to mostly accompany my voice with guitar until indidn't learn piano but now i carry both-my guitar and piano with me in gigs to give different flavours in different songs that i sing ,since some of the songs are upbeat and some are mellow.I want to make myself better at accompanying my voice with piano.I own a PXS 3000(casio) which also has the capability to layer strings/organs/pads and many other tones over it.Could you suggest me how i shall approach for now?I mean should I also take care of the layering and stuff since i love it in live performances or should i only work with piano sounds for now?It's a 2 man band-I handle the piano/guitar at once and i have an accompanist on tabla with me.
🙏🏻please help
Hello and thanks for that. I play classical guitar and my sister piano. I've trying to find some nice melodic songs to play together (including singing), but I can't seem to find any. Do you or anyone else here have suggestions?
Thanks for this :) can you please make a more detailed video about left hand progressions. right now i am limited to playing a chord at its root position or one of its
inversions or in an octave form. what i want to say is, that while playing a chord with left hand my hand position is static.I can arpeggiate, but it will be using the same notes which i held at first. How do i bring a motion at my left hand playing? I really want to improve it by like playing the root note at the lower register and then playing an arpeggio one octave higher and move one octave more. while playing the same chord. and make the rhythm sound connected for all chords. what should be the finger positions to be able to play like that? as currently even though i can figure out in my mind what notes i have to play, i am unable to do so. maybe due to wrong finger positions. Thanks!
+Abhishek Verma Hi Abhishek. I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for, but I'll try and think of some ideas. If there are any specific videos/patterns you have in mind share a link and I'll take a look.
thatt's very helpful! thank you
Subscribed !!! Want tips on playing piano with a gospel singer(Using bass guitar on the left hand).
This helps a lot! Thank you. However, what if the keyboardist mainly plays melody and the guitarist trying to follow the keyboard?
Nice! Thanks!
Thank u very much for the time spent on this video tutorial . Please how can u do the guitar struming for piano separately from slow to fast in an easy to understand manner?
Wow man thanks a ton!
Can you please post how you played the piano with the guitar but only the piano bits on its own? the 2 hand sync was brilliant on its own!
An option I didn't see you know that is determine who's going to play Melody line who is going to play the chords. So when your face the piano play The Melody line
Great lesson!
The clash part was best!
Which listen should i go to if i want to play the chords like u did ? on the piano of course
thank you so much for the video
If the piano is the dominate instrument, and you want to play along with them, such as in a gospel song, how would I play the chords on guitar?
Listen to the song is a guitar even appropriate?
As sad as it is, as guitarists we must simplify our strum pattern even down to one strum per chord to accompany a piano leading more complexly. Generally, as the complexity of one instrument rises, the other instruments simplify.
Or play "popcorn" notes. Works really well with soul music
@@jonathanmounce6008 I love being a pianist😎
Piano is Mother of all instrument but guitar is like evil of instrument no acoustic electric xD
thank you for this tips..Godbless
Thank you. That helps alot
Very clearly explanation. Thank you. Lovely kitty BTW :-))
This helped me so much!
Loved the lesson AND the cat.
It gets harder when you have to stay out of the way of the guitar AND the bass, isn't it? Left hand can't go too low nor too high.
Is driving down a road with one lane more difficult than driving down a road with three lanes?
I have to get out of the way of a guitarist, a bassist, a percussionist, a saxophonist, an accordionist, and singers 😝... where do I fit with my piano? 😭
every tips are worthy brother
This is awesome
very helpful. Thanks!
+James Carlo Carilo No problem, glad I could help out fellow musicians.
Dear Mangold,
I believe you are the ideal person to propose a third way to accompany a guitar .That is playing in the same spectum but with rootless chords .I shall be glad to hear something about it.
No, even rootless chords will clash if they're occupying the same frequency & rhythmical ranges. It doesn't matter if they contain the root or not. Rootless chords would be a good idea to play when jamming with a bass player, though!
Awesome! Thanks for this :)
+Max AnimePianist My pleasure!
8:52 look at this cute cat over there😍
Nice thanks, 👍 I'm a beginner at piano
Wow, I love you!!!
So basic but so helpful.
the hardest part is to compete with guitars in the mid range. I play in the cover band and we have a lot of guitar-based music, like AC/DC. Im struggling to find proper role of the keyboard in such music.
If guitars have already occupied all available frequency range, you need to work closely with the guitar players to either lock into their rhythm, or maybe just accept the fact you can't squeeze in and sit out for the song.
2:22 is exactly what I'm trying to make people understand, but no one understand, but you understand
I am the guitar player and I love your third opinion!
Im also guitar player but im just confussed how can piano make anything sound
Hey good evening! Could you tell us what keyboard (or digital piano you use)?? I'm looking forward to buy one but never knew the one you use was one (I want to know it's model specially because its piano sound is sooo good, and knowing that I wouldn't br stuck with it only makes me happy).. I don't even know if you'll read or reply to this, but thank you anyway for giving all these tips to us (your subscribers) for free!! Have a good day (same for anyone reading this :D )!!
In this video it's the Roland RD700GX. It's a fairly old model, you won't find it in stores anymore (perhaps used?).
@@MangoldProject Ah, that's fine.. but thanks!! :)
Your guitar voicings for C and G are backward. G has 6 notes (135131/GBDGBG) and C has 5 (13513/CEGCE). I'm sure it's just a slip because they're perfectly flipped. I'm a guitar player, of course. Good thoughts on playing together!
Ah, maybe I made a mistake describing those. I don't always catch all those little mistakes when editing videos (it's surprising how many I make just out of absent-mindedness ... )
Just what i needed
great video!
Clearly option #3 is superior ;)
+Kyle Hohn Easier said than done, though!
Very useful!!!
+Veranek Happy to hear :)
brilliant
Thank you sir
You can play the same chord on the guitar in many different ways so it's not necessarily these exact notes that you've shown in the beginning. But it's still a good lesson.
+music95 I happened to be playing that chord so I know precisely what notes it was made of :).
+MangoldProject Yes, I know that you showed the notes that you played on the guitar. But you said in the beginning: "The C chord on the guitar is actually voiced like this... /shows the C chord/", and later: "So what your friend is strumming is... /shows the notes on the keyboard/" which sounds like the C chord is played on the guitar this exact way. But it's not the only way. You showed this because you played the C major on the guitar but not every guitarist has to play it that way. I just wanted to say it because it may be misleading for some people that have never played the guitar.
Keep well. Greetings from Poland.
+music95 Ah, now I understand. Yes, you are correct, thank you for pointing that out!
As a guitar player, I can tell you the notes you give for the guitar chords are not correct for F and G. the F is also actually Fadd9 This guitar is capo'd at the fifth fret and the notes are:
C: C3-E3-G3-C4-G4-C5 (as shown)
Fadd9: F3-A3-C4-G4-C5
G: G3-D4-G4-B4
Notice that the top three notes in the C and Fadd9 are all the same. It's a kind of pedal tone effect that's common in pop guitar playing. The G uses a different voicing because... well, guitar reasons. It has to do with how open strings are used.
I would like to strum like this 5:09. Will try by ear. I'm a guitar player try to strum on keyboard. :)
Thank you!
Hi kitty kitty 🐈🥰 thx fr these tips 🎶
Master, oh wise one teach me your ways