Xbox's Exclusivity Changes Aren't So Big After All - Next-Gen Console Watch
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- Опубликовано: 15 фев 2024
- This week on Next-Gen Console Watch, Daemon is joined by Beyond's Max Scoville and Podcast Unlocked's Ryan McCaffrey as they break down the recent Xbox Business Update podcast. Rumors have been swirling that Microsoft will finally let major first-party Xbox games onto competing consoles, and Xbox's communication of their business plans have been lacking as of late. Will we get Halo on PlayStation 5? Sea of Thieves on Nintendo Switch? What about Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, or Starfield? Plus we go over last week's poll, and have a brand new poll for you to vote on at IGN.com.
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Congrats IGN you also contributed to overblown articles rather than focus on the facts before the business update
More importantly, what the hell happened with Marty Sliva
It's been years!
Gamers are the most pretentious bunch of whiners. If they didn't cover it, they'd be accused of shilling. They do cover it, they get accused of contributing to mass hysteria.
Y'all need to learn some media literacy. Rumor does not equal leak, and leak does not equal fact.
Oh somebody is emotional. Xbox is failing microsoft share holder expectations. And it's not IGN's fault. Wether they report about it or not. It doesn't change the crisis.
Why are you expecting some real professional journalism from IGN. It's partly your fault. All of ours
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we need more Xbox 360 games for backwards compatible so bad?
hell yeah! love the 360 library!
'It's not the sky falling like some chicken littles were saying'...my dude, IGN was right there doing it!
Never was a big deal, it was game journalism that made it something bigger than what it was. It's just games being released on other platforms, something that happens all the time.
It always starts with the small and literally ends with the big.
@@salasalsa-mb5gwlike the biggest multiplayer of Sony studios in developments marathon being multiplatform?
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@@Dan-qp4oq One game from Sony does not necessarily mean all, but Xbox is very clear from the wording that it wants to do that literally, and this is only the beginning, of course, to increase profits. Only Rayyan lost the battle.
@@VenniVenomous You definitely mean 💯 wrong 😆
INITIALLY there will be 4 games. That's a trial to see how it goes. If they sell well then more games will be released on Sony / Nintendo consoles.
Old games from gamepass
@@mikeuk666yes but it seems people just want to hope Xbox goes full 3rd party, pretty sad.
Exactly. It might be 4 games now, but anyone who thinks it will remain 4 games in a year or two from now is woefully naive.
@@SeiyaSoiya-un4jj yes but the people hoping for Xbox to be full 3rd party are going to have to keep hoping haha
@TheBean87 they will, Phil basically said as much. When asked by the verge if more would follow if/when these do well, he said "yeah"
New drinking game: Take a shot every time Max (or anyone on any ign podcast) says “Walled Garden” or “Known quantity”
Seems Xbox needs to catch these leakers to avoid these situations
im all for leaking say corruption etc etc but there is really no need to leak this expect to try and hurt mircosoft
Why? Everyone was talking about Xbox for 2 weeks straight.
The leakers are probably some of the workforce that were impacted by the lay-offs at the start of the year.
Nah, y'all are trying to SPIN this in the COMMENTS SECTION.
Mention Tom Warren Interview with Phil Spencer yesterday.
Mention how Phil said Indiana Jones and Starfield are coming LATER.
STOP HIDING THE TRUTH.
@@xdjrunner sounds like you’re reading comprehension needs a little work bud.
Yeah but you guys really tried to believe that that rumors were true you should report on truth instead of rumors.
They gotta eat lol
Or they report on the gaming news like they always have. This was news of a big rumor that Microsoft didn’t deny or respond to for a week. What else were they supposed to do?
As usual, Xbox is walking back... they definitely did consider putting any and everything on other consoles, at the end of the day... they gotta recoup that 100 Billion... not going to do it with gamepass and the Xbox gamers only...
Nah, y'all are trying to SPIN this in the COMMENTS SECTION.
Mention Tom Warren Interview with Phil Spencer yesterday.
Mention how Phil said Indiana Jones and Starfield are coming LATER.
STOP HIDING THE TRUTH.
@@xdjrunnerWhen did he say Starfield and Indiana Jones are coming to PS5? He just ruled out the question. Stop spreading lies.
Who knew, obvious false rumours end up being false
The rumors they were not false their were true the different was people started escalating that it was Starfield and Indiana Jones and it wasn’t those games but they are 4 or 5 games from Xbox coming to PS5 and Nintendo
Nah, y'all are trying to SPIN this in the COMMENTS SECTION.
Mention Tom Warren Interview with Phil Spencer yesterday.
Mention how Phil said Indiana Jones and Starfield are coming LATER.
STOP HIDING THE TRUTH.
@@xdjrunnerWhen did he say Starfield and Indiana Jones are coming to PS5? He just ruled out the question. Stop spreading lies.
The rumors were mostly true, though.
Xbox owner here. I'm with Max on this, games like Grounded and Sea of Thieves, and even eventually State of Decay 2 are games that have been around for a while and 100% could use an influx of new players, especially if they could be cross-platform. Grounded is an amazing game and everyone should have the opportunity to give it a go.
Do you need online to play those?
@@MrSkullMerchantIt's not necessary for Grounded. The others I'm not certain. Sea of Thieves may require it.
@@CW19941 ok thanks
Definitely exposed more of the lack of accountability in video games journalism
Gaming channels that consider themselves journalists need to stop reporting on rumors. They have channels for that already that are almost never right. Dont be like them if you want to be taken seriously.
Once again, the internet blows things out of proportion.
Nah, y'all are trying to SPIN this in the COMMENTS SECTION.
Mention Tom Warren Interview with Phil Spencer yesterday.
Mention how Phil said Indiana Jones and Starfield are coming LATER.
STOP HIDING THE TRUTH.
@@xdjrunnerWhen did he say Starfield and Indiana Jones are coming to PS5? He just ruled out the question. Stop spreading lies.
@@johananj.j8003
he said that on the verge interview
no he didn’t. He said it may come, he didn’t deny it, you know what happened when Phil didn’t deny Xbox games got multi platform last week? We got 4 exclusive games to PlayStation
Microsoft doesn't owe anyone anything. They are a company and expectations that they should have taken a more "defensive stance" is both extremely naive and also comes off as a finger point to excuse your coverage of incorrect information. Entitlement is such a widespread and fascinating mindset. How low this industry's has fallen.
Phil knows what he is doing... Calm down IGN...
People now turning on the media outlets who made a mountain out of a mole hill is hilarious.
Thanks IGN for overblowing the situation!
Ryan made an article saying his world was falling apart with this news a couple of weeks ago. Completely ignoring any of that in this video. What a joke of a website.
"The Reports of my Death are Greatly Exaggerated." - Mark Twain
So glad to see that Ryan and max are back this episode! Please don’t mess with this cast the shows perfect!
The fault is in the RUclipsrs who blew things out of proportion for no reason
You don't say. How about waiting for Microsoft to speak before talking about rumours
Microsoft had a podcast yesterday which stated a bunch of news not rumors
@@sethtroudt they spoke about this last week saying it's going to be massive so don't comment if you don't know what your talking about
In the context of community-driven games...
"What's Sony going to give us in return???"
Better matchmaking times, better matchmaking balancing, more community created content, longer potential DLC supported lifetime... there's a lot of benefits that come from games we already gave getting player population boosts...
Makes sense. As a PlayStation owner, I'm real excited to get my hands on Pentiment and Hifi Rush finally!
Here’s what they’re not saying on this video:
Not YET. It’s not a big deal yet.
It’s starts small with 4 old games. But once you open the door a crack, you keep pushing and pushing until it swings wide open.
First get the community used to the idea of it, then you say “guys, we’re turning into sega and publishing only, by the way the next console is a digital only game pass focused machine”
It’s funny that IGN who were pushing these rumors are saying we were the ones freaking out.
IGN is the CNN of gaming
Lmao.
It boggles my mind how ign and kinda funny are constantly calling for these companies to raise game prices. These are outlets who get their games for free. Games prices imo are 20$ to high.
If they raise prices less will buy, $70 is already harsh. $100 would be a deal breaker for many.
Some Games used to be $60-$90 back in the snes and n64 days. Games were $50 for generations and $60 for generations. But AAA games are taking more resources, more time, more everything to make and yet cost the same. You’re telling me that a game like Baulders Gate 3 should cost the same as Tetrisphere? Games that you play for hundreds of hours vs 4 hrs back 20+ yrs ago?
Games probably should vary depending on average completion time really but some games are too small for $70 and others are too big for $40
@@Covette01Consoles and games are so amazingly affordable today it blows my mind. The fact that they completely ignored inflation is a wonder in itself.
@@Covette01you dont decide for others how what the replay value of any game is
we need more original Xbox games for backwards compatible so bad?
We are in it's 4th calendar year. Can we stop calling it next gen when it's literally midway through as current gen?
Guess what? There are new consoles coming within a year. Piss off about the naming convention. Ign barely has successful shows as it is, imagine changing the name this far in.
There's no point in buying another next-gen console. Since I'm happy with the Xbox Series X and PS5?
The messaging on this was closer to putting out the fire right now but not addressing the core issue. It's just going to keep happening with the "wait and see" approach. Ryan is on point about the messaging stuff. But it's fair to point out that Phil didn't rule out Indiana Jones on PS5. Only that there are no plans right now.
And?..... just means once they have run their course on gamepass they may go elsewhere
Things being blown out of proportion as usual. The gaming community is full of drama queens.
Here is how the cycle goes:
1. Hear a rumour
2. Suddenly becomes a gaming crisis or the worst point in history.
3. Everyone realises it was actually nothing all this time.
4. Phase of moaning is over and everyone goes back to playing their games.
5. Repeat
internet overreacting? im shocked!
Ryan lost it over nothing! 🤣. Embarrassing. Awkward.
Dude is a complete joke.
“Maybe you don’t like the box”
Actually 5 Xbox exclusives are coming to PlayStation. As Dusk Falls is coming to PlayStation 4/5 in march...
I've heard stalker 2 is coming to ps5 as well
Both those games weren’t made by an Xbox studio.
@@TheBean87 Xbox owns the IP 👍
@@salvadormendoza5045 yes but they don’t own the studio.
As a PS5 owner I'd probably pick up Pentiment and/or Hi-Fi Rush
Grounded is a great one too
Both great, grounded is fantastic.
Hi Fi Rush is goated
So it was pretty much another "wait 'til next year" moment
For ps yes.
April 2025 to be exact.
Aren't that big.... yet.
Lol keep begging
@@BillO62Maybe not directly, but it does make money in the long run. Else Microsoft and Sony would've ditched consoles long ago
@@jimmythegamer2231we aren’t begging, the Xbox community aren’t buying games so Microsoft had to go with plan B
@@ImViruxx 🤔
Microsoft's Q2 2024 (fiscal) earnings:
Windows OEM revenue up 11%
Devices revenue down 9%
Gaming revenue up 49%
Xbox content + services revenue up 61%
Xbox hardware revenue up 3%
Source: Tom Warren
Gaming is now Microsoft's third biggest business (behind server, cloud & office products), bigger than Windows. Microsoft made $62 billion in Q2 (fiscal). Gaming contributed $7.11 billion, more than the $5.26 billion from Windows.
Source: the verge
@@mikeuk666now remove pc and leave it at the actual Xbox console and it’s a very different situation. Also, of course gaming revenue is up lmao. They just bought a 69 billion dollar powerhouse
I'm excited for PS owners to get Grounded. Its in my top 10 of all time and will offer the studio great incentive to expand.
sony doesnt own “video game” spiderman rights. they own movie rights for spiderman. Disney owns the video games, merch, and toys for spiderman
Disney doesn’t own insomniac who created the Spider-Man games
@@knighthawk34ps3 exactly and disney doesnt own machine games who will make Indy
Sony has a contract for the current rights to spiderman for video games. They own the rights to the games currently on PlayStation and Disney can't ever publish those titles on other platforms without sonys permission at the very least.
Can't believe after all these years we still see outlets as big as IGN getting this wrong.
Sony as a company doesn't own Spider-Man - Sony Pictures have the rights to Spider-Man movies.
Marvel owns the character of Spider-Man and they allowed Insomniac games to make the Spider-Man games.
Sony Interactive Entertainment owns Insomniac, and so they own those games. You still see Spider-Man the character pop up in other games like Lego Marvel, Ultimate Alliance etc (unless Sony throws a bunch of money at it like they did for the Crystal Dynamics Avengers game)
@@extermin8or3 never heard of such contract. Spiderman does appear in other video games on multiple platforms
Watching these bozzos arguing that games should cost 100 dollars its a clear sign that IGN its a sellout company.
But Ryan was freaking out last week… lol
we hope to see old Activision games for backwards compatible soon?
On PlayStation we have had Psychonauts 2 and High On Life. So more games from the XBox system is cool. I'm not sure what has changed though?
New news on the game showcase/ hardware is cool though.
11:12 Yeah Disney would give that nudge, and the same would be true for "Wolverine", right IGN... 🤔🤣🤣
Is it me or does Max look like the main character from Hi-fi Rush?!
Ah yet another RUclips channel trying to rake in those after-the-fact clicks after contributing to the circus like atmosphere. Bravo!
Xbox play anywhere is the future 😂❤🍾💯 get used to it
Honestly, Hi Fi Rush is a better get for Switch and PlayStation owners than Starfield. It's a better game.
Starfeild is xbox and pc only
Cope
@@valkiron11cope how? Lmfao your comment makes no sense wtf
IGN is a news outlet
Ryan literally said they shouldn't put games on other platforms and now he's saying no harm at all lmao -somebody help him wax his eyebrows
Very curious they scripted that podcast so closely and they said no Starfield or Indiana, but they didn’t say anything explicitly either way about other hallowed Xbox classic franchises like Halo, Gears, etc.
Tbf spiderman. If that was multiplatform that could be even bigger. Its already big but keep it off gamepass but put it on xbox and i'm sure it would sell great
They could probably get 2-3 million out of it. Probably more in the long run. The port would be worth it and it wouldn't damage the brand to make the first game and Miles Morales multi platform.
Dod they not read the interview with the verge? Or are they just being deliberately thick?
Honestly; you lot are the only reason Microsoft and Xbox needed to come out and put on anything resembling a show about this.
All of the sites, blogs & RUclipsrs/streamers took A few out of context remarks, that were interpreted in bad faith and also relied on poorly sourced stories for clicks and you created a storm around relatively nothing.
A prime example of sticking to facts OR report as pure speculation until clarified
Sony owns Spider-Man’s movie rights, insomniac has a license for the games not Sony. Disney owns the rights for the games if I’m not mistaken. Sony owns insomniac but if they didn’t anymore insomniac would still have the licensing. Not 100 percent sure though
Ryan! It's a 20 minute show, make your responses shorter
This all seems like cope to me. Inevitably they will be expanding the scope of their releases on other consoles.
I’m so thankful for indies
Not yet
gaurentee blade will be multi platform
13:07 they did MLB the show
ryan acting like he didnt literally use the phrase "defcon 5" unironically to describe the situation last week on podcast unlocked 🙄🙄
How does no one ever mention that a Sony “exclusive” MLB the Show ends up on Gamepass day 1
Also Psychonauts 2 is on PlayStation.
Because Xbox needs to constantly be the main topic.
Yeah, you were the ones making big drama about it week ago. And all these smaller news outlets and magazines are copying from you guys. Would have been nice if you interviewed Phil in the first place instead of spreading rumors. You are now blaming it on Phil for not 'being proactive', meaning what? Not predicting that info will get leaked? Kind regards
The vibe seems off with Max and Ryan
Skewing 36% as positive
Everything that was rumoured is planned to happen, but Xbox are just telling their fan base what they want to hear so that they don’t freak out. And if you don’t think that then you’re gullible AF!
Games in canada cost over 100$. Its a video game. I'm not going to play games much longer if we listen to the dude on the left who's begging for 200$ games because ''its baffling''. They're selling millons of copies. They're doing more then fine.
They think they're saving face by blaming Microsoft for messaging when they, in the same breath of the conversation, say that the messaging is "a nature of the postion."
Sony doesn't have this problem because they don't care. And not only do they not care, but due to their regulations, they don't have to care.
People love to say, "If you think these companies (I'm speaking about Microsoft)care, you're wrong."
Well, THEIR WRONG WITH THAT STATEMENT!
Microsoft cares because Regulations affect their bottom line. That's why they didn't just close ABK as soon as it was available.
Weakness I'm 😂 sorry but Xbox has 10 1st party exclusives this year and Sony has zero 1st party exclusives this year
Grown men acting like little children the last week. Embarrassing.
The calm before the storm before poor exclusives are being released on playstation too
HiFi rush & Grounded are not poor games 😂
@@mikeuk666they really are son 😂😂😂😂
To hear Xbox gamers say stuff like “well what’s PlayStation going to give US!!!!!!!?”
Like bro….Microsoft isn’t YOUR company. Nor is it your business decision to make. You want Sony games buy a damn PlayStation. Stop being fan boys and play games. These companies don’t care for you. Enjoy gaming!!
the media over exaggerating to get more views....
@2:43 ...which is no different than what sony has been already been doing for the PC community with some of it's former exclusive titles; xbox fans really are kind of being blind to the fact that outside of early access for PS consoles on some titles, xbox users have been eating off a silver spoon of content and support imo compared to say sony has been for the PS community
Let’s decrease the scale of games instead of introducing the idea of charging more.
It's crazy IGN really hate Xbox
as a fan its what the hell. but from a business sence, its great. like said we could get more players on sea of thieves etc. What microsoft is doing is what is best for the industry and is getting ahead, very smart. but yes their marketing needs work.
also why did you not mention what sony came out and said hours before the xbox podcast. they are going to become more aggressive with releasing on pc. this hints that microsoft is thinking ahead
If these 4 games come over and sell a lot of copies on PS5 and Switch and generates a lot of revenue, which it most likely will since PS5 and Switch has a much larger install base compared to Xbox, the whole Xbox catalog is coming over for sure
Xbox series X with game pass ultimate is the way to go 👌💯
The funny thing is that this is small news. They basicly teased 2 new consoles. Or at least one. They said new hardware announment in the holiday season and they mentioned that the next generation leap will be the biggest. Also we don't know if the hardware will come out in the holiday season or if it will just be announced.
They never said what games are coming to other platforms. Also they never said playstation. So everything's still up in the air.
This is a major crack in the dam. The rest will come in time
Xbox gamers in denial,
What would stop Microsoft from eventually putting more of its small and lackluster AAA exclusives on the PlayStation after these initial first 4? If so, why get an Xbox anymore? More games will be on PlayStation. It's exclusives (Which they have NOT stated will be on Xbox) + Xbox's exclusives.
These 4 games are the beginning of the end.
yeah YET
🤔 Sony knows that game exclusives sell gaming consoles 💯
Typical IGN reporting 7/10
Xbox is not in a bad place at all. Not nearly like toxic fan boys seem to think. Just becaue they are firmly in 3rd place, doesn't mean they aren't successful. Everyone acts like the Genesis was this behemoth on the market. It was for a couple years, but it still only sold around 45 million. Xbox One sold close to 60 million and the Series X/S is likely approaching 30 million. The WiiU and Dreamcast didn't even sell 15 million. So, yah. Not doom and gloom at all.
So why did the Original Xbox and Xbox 360 have over 100 exclusive titles with very few studios in the 2000s???
Wow who would’ve known not to follow rumors. Wooow
Got us all excited for nothing 😔
Any heroes here? not gonna watch an 18 minute video. So what will happen with the xbox exclusives again?
They can complain about messaging all they want but their overblown falling sky rants and podcast about rumors reached more ears. IGN should be more professional.
we don't need more graphics, we need more games no mtx and cheaper. can we stop making games into movies pls?
Reading comprehension isn’t Xbox fans strong points. JFC. Y’all been lied to for over a decade
Even the PlayStation guy looks cooler than the Xbox guy 😂
Way to go ign you were part of the problem and helped spread more lies! Great journalism! So is the gaming community gonna get an apology for your lies or you guys just gonna continue to double down?
Milk is 3.50 a gallon
Every xbox game now is basically a timed exclusive.
This is news to me.