I just published another video on this topic. In this new video I update you on some things, as well as address some misconceptions and misunderstandings that I noticed repeated in the comments of this video. ruclips.net/video/loTKqQPxiU4/видео.html
I moved to Mexico in '98 and lived there for a couple of years, came back to the States and then went back to Mexico for another 9 months a few years later. I actually read quite a bit about Mexican immigration law while I was down there (it's all been on the internet since back then). The idea behind the 180 days is to go to Mexico and spend 180 days or less AS A TOURIST and leave. It was never intended that people would cross the border and come right back. People were, of course, doing this back when I lived there, but it wasn't always allowed. Sometimes people were denied reentry specifically because they were trying to get around the INTENT of the law. I had friends that lived down there for years and would cross to Belize for the weekend and come back. They'd usually only get 90 days doing that, not that it really mattered. They'd just go to Belize every 3 months. But sometimes people got denied re-entry and couldn't get back. Mexico has a real problem with people working there illegally on tourist visas. Technically, if you're staying long term but on a tourist visa, you're violating the intent of the law. You should get a work visa or some other visa that allows you to stay there legally as the law intends, just as Americans expect Mexicans to obey the intent of our laws.
Hello Pete, laws are written so that no interpretation of the law is necessary. "Intent" is subject to different viewpoints. If people could come and go as permanent tourists it means the laws were poorly written.
@@alanserjeant4947 "Hello Pete, laws are written so that no interpretation of the law is necessary" Then why do we have courts? If there's no interpretation needed, anyone with a lawbook could interpret the law and apply it. And Mexican laws aren't written that way. In fact, nearly every clause of their immigration law ends with something along the lines of, "or as decided by the local head of immigration," basically meaning that their immigration laws are extraordinarily flexible from the point of view of the local head of immigration. They can choose to let you stay or kick you out because of the color of your hair.
@@petedavis7970 to answer your 1st question, we have courts (in the US) because of the presumption of innocence. If the facts presented indicate guilt, only then would the accused be guilty. But thanks for acknowledging the Mexican laws are poorly written. It's a shame any law would be written to indicate personal bias of an official may change how a law is enforced.
@@FierceMice Mexico doesn't have presumption of innocence. They use Napoleonic code. You're talking apples and oranges. Mexico's legal system is nothing like America's.
@@petedavis7970 Of course. I am not saying the two systems are anything alike. Just answering your question why there are courts. And agreeing with you that the Mexican laws you mentioned are poorly written. It seems to be a system wrought with the potential for undue influence from multiple sources.
We followed this strategy when we arrived in Mexico City a few weeks ago: polite, deferential, itinerary summary in Spanish/English (60 days), refundable onward flight, proof of accommodations. Were given 180 days no problem.
That is often the real influence. Be polite and deferential to immigration officers. I've been ashamed as a US citizen at the airport when other US citizens arriving act rude and superior in their attitude. Helps to speak in Spanish too.
@@lorenaledger6547 Of course Americans need avisa, that is what this is all about. And there is a cost. Usually included in the air ticket but sometimes it is doubled by the exit fee. Inform yourself..
@@jeanisdancing you educate yourself. Americans do not need a visa, we have a Forma Migratoria Múltiple which every country is given to track tourists. It’s not a visa. You fill these out on the plane, it’s not a visa you apply for. 🤦🏾♀️
@@PatricenotPatrick Because you do not have to apply in advance does not mean it is not a visa. You have never heard of a VOA - a visa on arrival? Many countries employ that. You do not seem to have traveled very much. Of course it is a visa because the number of days provided - which is the issue now - are limited and if you overstay, you are not legal any more. It is just a word, meaning permission to be on the territory. A universal word.. Maybe you never nerd it before? :(
All this process is what we go through, when we apply for visa to go to USA 🇺🇸 is not easy, actually you guys have it easy !!for us is almost impossible to get visa.
I moved to Mexico almost 6 years ago as a volunteer missionary. I love this country because the people are so kind and full of joy. The permanent residency requirements for a retired person are very easy if you get a Mexican lawer here to help. You do have to print out 6 months of your most recent bank statements and take all the paperwork to the states to the Mexican consulate and then give all the paperwork to your laywyer back here in Mexico to finish. It is a wonderful country to live in and I love it!
@@catsmeow4003 : All over Mexico has unique places to live & visit. Favorites have been: Queretaro, San Luis Potosi, Guadalajara & Lake Chapala Region, Oaxaca, Los Mochis & Mazatlan in Sinaloa. The resorts are nice but too tourist oriented and not that real Mexico. If I were to pick a resort community it would be Puerto Vallarta.
Based on the comments, it seems there has been a lot of confusion about some aspects of the video... 1. I mentioned that a lot of people coming to Mexico are only allowed in the country for as many days as they can prove that they have a hotel stay. A lot of people in the comments interpreted this to mean that if you have a hotel stay booked for months, you'll be allowed to stay for that entire time. Many others were concerned that if they were staying with family in Mexico, they wouldn't be able to prove that they have anything booked. - For clarity, just because you don't have a hotel booked doesn't mean you're not going to be able to stay in Mexico for a while. It's perfectly normal for people to come to Mexico and stay with family, immigration knows this. On the other hand, if you think you're going to be able to stay for 180 days just because you book a refundable airbnb or hotel for 6 months straight, there's a good chance you won't get 180 days. It's not normal for someone to book a hotel for 6 months straight and I imagine this would raise red flags with immigration. The length of stay you're given will depend of many factors including: The agent you're dealing with and what kind of mood she's in, your history of visiting Mexico (i.e. do you have a history of coming and staying for months - if so, you're less likely to get a lot of time), what you look like and how old you are (if you look like a budget backpacker, you're less likely to get as much time as someone who looks wealthy), the length of your hotel/airbnb stay, whether or not you're visiting family, if you have a return flight booked, and many other things. If I were coming to Mexico and wanted to stay for a few months without getting residency, In order to give myself the best chance of being allowed to stay for those three months, I'd do something like this... I'd go through customs well dressed to appear as if I have money. I'd book a return flight about 3 months from now. I'd have at least a couple weeks of hotels booked. When the agent asks me how long I'm staying in Mexico, I'd tell her the date of my return flight. If asked about where I'm staying I'd be honest and say I have a hotel booked for 2 weeks but I don't know exactly where I'm staying after that. If I were coming to Mexico and planning to stay with family for a few months, I'd book a return flight for a few months from now, if they ask where I'm staying I'd say I'm staying with my (uncle, parents, brother) or whoever I'm actually staying with. 2. There were a number of comments saying they can't get residency yet because they won't be retired or moving here for a few years. It seems to be a popular belief that if you have residency in Mexico, you have to spend a certain amount of time here. That is not the case. If you have residency, you have the right but not the obligation to live in Mexico. If you think you'll be living in Mexico in the future, if you can qualify, I urge you to get residency now because you may not qualify when it comes time for you to move to Mexico.
Where can this information about the new requirements be found on the internet? After doing a quick search, all the sites I looked at still say a 180 days is automatically granted to US citizens on a tourist visa.
Thank you for your second point. This is EXACTLY what I’ve been wondering for a while now. It seems like now is a good time to go ahead and start the temporary visa process so that the permanent visa is easier to get in several years time.
I first came to Mexico in 1990 when I was an American engineer under a work visa. I returned to the States married to a Queretana. Eventually we both acquired dual citizenship. I'm still an engineer and an elected official in the states, but will be retiring to our home we own in Queretaro. I have a Queretaro driver's license and INE voters registration card. It takes time and effort but the end result is definely worth it.
That's easy to say if you are a dual citizen from birth or shortly after, but to be a naturalized citizen in Mexico still takes work. You still have to go through the whole residency process, live there for many years, and then eventually take a citizenship test (unless you are over 60) to get citizenship.
The other alternative, which I qualified for, was acquiring Mexican citizenship if your parents were born in Mexico and were still Mexican citizens. This process can be done at the Mexican Consulates.
To be honest it was bound to happen eventually. It was a very forgiving system before. The envy of a lot of people who would love to do the same in Europe (Schengen area) who has the complicated 90 days out of 180 rule. I do feel very sorry for people who don’t have the means to have dual residency but have family in both places.
I guess you guys are now experiencing what we Mexican travelers have had for years, I normally get 180 days to stay in US no matter if I'm traveling for business or vacations but sometimes for no apparent reason I only get the exact days of my travel based on the ticket to fly back to Mexico sometimes is that date plus 2 or 3 additional days so what motivates the immigration agent to take those decisions I totally ignore it maybe is just based on the mood he had that day, seems to be totally random.
@@The.Hawaiian.KingdomYou've just made one of the stupidest statements I've ever read. How badly America treats Mexicans really, maybe if they weren't constantly illegally invading America. Thousands entering the US illegally every year with no way to support themselves, demanding the U S taxpayers support them. How do you think Mexico would react if thousands of Americans illegally crossed into Mexico demanding free rent, food and health care. Give me a break.
@@leeread6757More demagoguery. lol You probably also claim to “love Mexico” Your comment is absurd. The U.S. economy thrives on the labor provided by Mexicans whether they are there legally or not. The hypocrisy of gringos like you is astounding.
Great content Jordan!! You speak about things no one is speaking about and makes the content very helpful!! You always deliver great quality videos - this is dedication!!
I lived in Mexico for almost two years many years ago. I studied Spanish as a student and then returned to the US. A couple of years later, I moved there again to teach English. I saw many Americans and Canadians take advantage of the lax enforcement of Mexican laws. Most never learned Spanish and just used Mexico to party and forget about real life back home. Now with all the chaos at the US border, Mexico is finally cracking down on every aspect of travel. The "free ride" has ended because too many people refused to respect Mexico.
Remember Mexico is now asking for tourist visas to nationals from Ecuador, Brazil and recently Venezuela at US request. They say the measure will probably by applied to more South American countries.
Interesting. I was recently in Cancun for a few months staying in my favorite dive hotel and witnessed many Brazilians spending a night there before heading to the USA to ask for asylum. They didn't speak English or Spanish so I couldn't chat with them to get an idea of the situation in Brazil or what they expected in the USA. I've met refugees from Venezuela in Ecuador and Costa Rica over the past few years, too. Canadians are moving to Mexico in droves to escape harsh measures there. One woman from British Colombia claimed that Trudeau was coming down to Mexico to talk with the Mexican President to prevent Canadians from staying long term. Crazy? Who knows.
I don’t think that’s the reason. In fact, INM recently ran a special “regularización” program to let some people without legal “estancia” apply for temporary residency without providing financial qualification. That, to me, sounds like leniency rather than restriction, basically inviting people with open arms to retire here. 😄
@@metalgirl tourism to Mexico is the equivalent of someone giving them a fish to eat for a day. This could be good for Mexico and it seems they are finally trying to learn how to fish.
I’ve been paying attention to the financial requirements for the last 8-10 months. As a Canadian in BC, the financial requirements for permanent residency was low 4300 dollars. Now it’s 5500 dollars Canadian. If I drove 12 hours away to the next consulate in Calgary, it’s 4700 dollars for permanent residency.
@@katemitchell665 So that is a monthly requirement in dollars? Canadian I guess but still....In France - FRANC!E!!! - it is 2000 euros a month plus insurance, which is tricky for Americans. But still.....And if you get a Carte de Sejour you have a lot of privileges. Mexio is putting itself above a beautiful cultivated European country? Which has crime but not constant mass murder from all powerful cartels! The country is cool but let's get real please....
@@jeanisdancing quote from Mexican Consulate website in Vancouver …….average monthly balance equivalent to $222,622.00 Canadian dollars during the last twelve months, or Original and a photocopy of proof of tax-free monthly income from pensions in an amount greater than $5,566.00 Canadian dollars during the past six months.”.(this is perm residency. Temp residency is 55+K in savings and 3.33K per month)
You are doing a marvelous job, young man! You impress me to be a decent, compassionate and caring fellow. Thank you for sharing great videos which are such great help to us.
I am glad the people in Mexico are finally getting better pay. That’s great. It must be difficult to watch wealthy Gringos come and enjoy the country when you yourself cannot afford your own homeland. Like Hawaii, where we live.
I lived on the Big Island for over 17years. The high cost of living forced me out. I settled in S.E. Asia 16 years ago. Was looking at Mexico last year but...many changes in immigration etc there. Stuck here until something else opens.up. aloha nui loa.
Again it's something I'm advocating for here in Britain being £15 per hour. Our shop workers and care staff have worked so hard during the pandemic it's the least we can do is to pay them enough to enjoy good housing, food and leisure time.
That makes no sense. The people that built those businesses and work in them are all Mexicans. Those people aren't a bunch of indigent farm workers; they're business people and technicians with skilled careers. People in the States have been brainwashed to think Mexico is a bunch of lazy, drunk welfare types.
We just came back to live in Sayulita for another 6 months and were worried about this. Landed in PV a few days ago and got the 180 days no questions asked, and didn’t have to show proof of a flight home or a pre-booked stay. As with many things in Mexico, there is no consistency. You are at the mercy of the immigration official you are standing in front of.
Well that is pretty much the same when I travel to US and no matter if is for vacations or businesses, sometimes they even knowing i will be there a few days or a couple of weeks most of times I still get 180 days but in some other cases they just give me the exact number of days based on the ticket to fly back to Mexico sometimes is let say 2 or 3 additional days so what motivates them to take that decision? I dont know so I guess you always depend on the mood of the immigration officer.
@@tolowreading6807 yeah but to be fair the US has a major problem with people coming to the US and over staying visas illegally and never leaving. I don't think this is a problem the other way around. So it doesn't make sense for the policy to be the same for both. Especially when billions in tourist dollars are on the table for Mexico.
Everything makes sense now. We were in Mexico over New Year’s, and I was surprised to see that our visa was only valid for the time we were staying, about 12 days. I’ve been watching your videos for about a year and with both of my kids learning Spanish and entering high school, we are planning to spend more time in Mexico, hopefully branching out from some of the better known tourist destinations. Thank you for letting us know! It will be a lot easier to plan now that I’m aware of the change.
@M J Yet, what a shame it would be to limit the cross-cultural sharing and understanding that can result from tourism in the short-term. In addition, not everyone can afford to pick up and move to another country for months at a time. Fair wages are important, but other valuable aspects of travel enter into this equation.
As always Jordan you do your homework. Your information here is spot on. This was the 1st RUclips I watched regarding immigration law changes. There are a few more now. There does not seem to be information on either the US or MX government websites explaining or even announcing the changes. While I am waiting for a consulate appoint I have heard some workarounds to renew my 180's without a 6-month lease.Thanks! Robert, Ensenada BC Norte.
It took longer than I thought for the Mexicans to review their immigration regulations. What I mean is way back in the 80s when I had a chance to apply for Mexican citizenship I did because I thought things were just too easy at thr time. I was married to a Mexican so this option was available to me and I took it and now I am so grateful because I still carry a Mexican passport even though I no longer live there. Mostly I wanted to congratulate you and thank you for the way you do these videos - realistically and truthfully. People need to know the truth and you don’t sugarcoat it. You are helping keep the wrong kind of people out of my country!
Thank you for the immigration specialist referral! Perfect timing! I am actually looking for someone to help me get residency. You and Maddie offer great content and I love watching your videos.
I recently got my temporal visa. In my opinion it's so worth it. It takes some time to get an appointment and every consultate has different rules. Hiring a good immigration faciliator is a small, but important investment because you'll walk in the door at the consulate knowing you have done your paperwork correctly. It took me three weeks to get an appointment, and I was in and out in under an hour. I'm so excited to pick up my card in a couple of weeks.
Are you living in Mexico full time? Im not ready to move, maybe in 5 years or so but wondering if I should get residency now. My husband is a Mexican national and lives in Mexico. I live in the US ans will be here until retirement for another 5 years or more.
Hmmm sounds like the country is thinking of it’s citizens first. While this puts a damper on my plans, things are so bad in the USA, I will do whatever I need to do to get out.
It is getting bad in the usa, but around the world this is happening. As a Mexican, i am sure a small town in a poor state will be the same aa a small town in a "poor" state in the usa (in terms of quality of life, just more money)
@@MikeRobCas but the people who stay more spend more amigo. I have seen it. Besides people who frequent hostels, most, like usa citizens and Russians, spend heavily
Cancun is getting close to record tourism right now. It was the #2 travel destination in the world in 2021. 95% plus of the tourists stay no more than a week and are completely unaffected by this change. This will have zero adverse impact on tourism.
And that's what the MX admin wants... Lots of people to come in and dump cash and leave. Mexico is notoriously provincial about itself. They want your money, but not YOU. Stupid and short-sighted.
Because Mexico stayed open the last 2 years while most others didn't. As everywhere else reopens and MX is now making things so much more difficult, tourism will have a shock.
@@kemosabe5120 No - tourism is fine. This simply means that digital nomads cannot come here anymore and live indefinitely on a tourist permit. Tourists spend a lot of money. Backpackers and nomads not so much.
@M J The very low levels of ANY language spoken in the United States, other than English, is indicative that most locals are actually xenophobic... fact.
I came into Mexico through Cancun on Saturday, and they were only giving visitors a tourist visa for the amount of days they had accommodations booked. While I didn't have anything booked after the first week, I had a return ticket booked for the end of April, so that saved me. They gave me 130 days (10 days past my return flight) and they were even reluctant to do that. A lot of people were walking out of the airport disappointed.
Funny how the tables turn… I’ve been trying to get a US Visa for years (I’m mexican) just for tourism, and just haven’t been able. Not to mention mexicans trying to get residency in the US… And to be honest, this new requirements are trying to protect locals from the madness happening in places like Tulum, which a few years ago was a charming, cheap destination and it now has become a gringo priced hell, where locals are not even able to afford to live there anymore. This has happened to San Miguel de Allende, Ajijic, Cabo and many other places where now mexicans can’t afford to visit or even live in.
@junvarc Thank you for sharing this perspective. Two of my adult siblings have, on several occasions, without success applied for tourist visas into the USA. Both are homeowners -with several properties. Both are what may be considered middle-class. Both had plans to visit family and do the touristy type of stuff travelers engage in. And both would return home to continue with their lives. Both were denied. My oldest sibling, after a second application, finally put it this way: “Ya no. No hay necesidad de lamber el c_l@ estadounidense”. It saddened me so much 😢 Travels are only from north to south and I have never been able to reciprocate their generosity by graciously hosting them on this side of the political (sovereign?) border. I had not, until recently, considered Mexican residency or even dual citizenship but it is now a constant mind chatter.
@Juanvrc I absolutely agree that the gringos drive up prices in the tourist destinations. But now with less of those tourists, the industries will suffer economically. I hope this will be the case in tulum. The prices are just outrageous and waaayy over-commercialized, especially for locals.
@@RubbingPotatoes industries won’t suffer because this does not affect regular tourism. This is a way to control the number of expats staying here raising the cost of living for the locals.
@@junvarc yeah I agree. But also these long term expats are bringing their foreign dollars and euros (overseas pension, investments, employment, whatever) and spending on local goods and services. If the population of expats decreases, so will demand and prices. Is that a "good" thing for the economy? Assume for the sake of argument that these expats are not working locally and taking jobs. 🤔
Just landed in CDMX last week and they only granted me 45 days which I had to prove I had a return flight for then. First time in 20 years of visiting/living in Mexico I didn't get the 180 days. I married a Mexican National but still had a lot of questions presented to me at the border. I heard this might be happening but after witnessing the other people in line ahead of me at the border services and my own experience last week, I'm afraid that this seems to be the case. I've heard several reasons why this is happening and I try to look at it from Mexico's prospective, but I think this will be unfortunate for both sides. Thanks for the helpful video Jordan.
We've lived in Mexico with permanent residency visa since 2013 and on temporary (what they then called FM-3) visa for 6 years prior. It was well worth the time and effort to achieve those visas. Yes, it is getting more difficult. Over the span of years living here, we've seen people with minimal love and interest in Mexico and its culture and traditions and come mainly for climate and cost-of-living. Those are folks not needed or wanted here. Real tourists can get that visa stay for length of their proved visit and that is what tourism is. If you want prolonged stay, then work to get it with a residency visa.
David: I've seen the same w many Britons in Spain. They stick to themselves in their gated villas & watching UK telly. Never bother to learn Spanish, make local friends, sad. They are there for the weather, cheap booze, cost of living.
So true but I saw that it’s not a very wise decision to live in a country where the laws are not going to protect us from the evil criminals who try to destroy our lives while trying to live and learn mexicos culture and lifestyle! Maybe this will help the government to start helping it’s citizens and heal their mind set of stealing and even worse in my situation! Watch out for any dating apps and scammers! Never travel alone! I ll always have a piece of Mexico in my heart ❤️! Mexico has to make money to possibly pay the families who were robbed of their land and enormous amounts of minerals from years ago! Currently there is a lawsuit suing The Mexican government for stealing land, oil, gold etc. They need to be held accountable for their actions and the people deserve a better life with rules and protection from evil criminals! Enjoy your stay in Mexico! Eat some tacos for me! 🙏
@@apscoradiales : Jobs, cost-of-living and climate are factors in where one moves to live. Won't fault them factors, but it was the warm-hearted people and their lifestyle that attracted me to Mexico. I've been no Monaco--no thanks, Mexico is better.
That magic moment when at 5:00 he was talking about the end of 180 days visa, and "Manhã de Carnaval" sad brazilian song was sounding in background....Magic moment.... I will forward this vid to mexican tourism minister... Hope they make it easier for the people want to travel long time in MX....
Great haircut Jordan! Thanks for the video. I had already heard that things might be changing. Looks like it’s now in place. Hoping it doesn’t hurt their economy because of this decision. Best wishes!
I was checked by government officials yesterday while on an ADO bus traveling from Campeche to Merida, luckily I always carry my passport and visa with me. When I arrived in Mexico I was given a visa only for the exact time I would be here.
In the last couple years caravans are just breaking into Mexico. Now those that organized those caravans are getting smarter and using the Mexican laws to they’re advantage. That is one big reason why Mexico is being forced to change some policies.
With the new requirements it will certainly keep the gate closed on those caravans. I have a friend who lives in Mexico. She said that sometimes the people in those caravans act demanding with locals when they stop in an area.
@@jeanisdancing yeah because those in the caravans protest once they get into the country and demand visas. With the intention to travel to border and not get deported. So they have the same policies as any tourist.
@@nataliemanzo34 How can you say that? Tourists come to visit, sight see, explore, relax, enjoy. That has nothing to do with the caravans who simply want to transit and get to the border where they hope to cross.
I was an illegal alien for 10 years, when I first moved here in 95, but we finally had enough money to qualify for the residency requirements. I have permanent status now and cannot envision myself living anywhere else. I love Mexico and it truly is a land of the free.
@@milademjayyy most Canadians don’t do any paperwork. You don’t need to under 180 days. Most get by visiting home in Canada or the US and then returning. It’s a legal gray area but I’m Mexican and I see Canadians there all the time doing it with Canadian passports at the border lol.
@@milademjayyy also, the way people have lately gotten caught is by leaving for a day or two and coming back. Every time you cross, it’s logged and these folks have made themselves obvious red flags to immigration. Visit home for a week or two or buy property and you’re fine
Mexico is becoming popular. I love it. I can understand why. That kind of puts a damper on my Mexican dream. Well I guess I have to work on a new dream. I had my heart set on moving to Zacatecas.
Our experience has been that if you have a return flight booked they dont ask about hotel reservations. This has been for stays anywhere from 2 weeks to 3 months.
The uncertainty is a real problem. I have met people given random number of days, 10, 32, 40, e.t.c, But doesn't seem to be a possibility to get say a 3 month visa before travelling either. This situation makes Mexico untenable as a traveling destination. Disappointing.
Sad to see your travel plans will have to change. But very glad to see that mexican people will finally be protected against the madness that expats and digital nomads bring to their home towns
@@junvarc luckily my travel plans are unchanged, this time, as I was fortunate to be given 180 days on arrival, but in the future it makes it a bit of a gamble to plan a long trip. I must admit Mexico is rather full at the moment, not with digital nomads but with everybody! It feels like the world is here, a consequence of the difficulty to go anywhere else I suspect. 👍
I’m glad they’re doing these changes in Mexico because many people are moving there but you do something like this is the US it’s a whole different story.
Add inflation or the US income levels compared to Mexico, it could be an attempt to increase it or revise the requirements and still test the influx and interest in Mexico. Lots of retirees during the pandemic, so these countries see a surge of tourists and those seeking residency.
Great video with important information. Now please do the same research with US requirements for Mexicans to get into that country. US has ALWAYS required traveling Mexicans first to get a very expensive VISA. Then, as you arrive, you have to ALWAYS prove to immigration officials where you’re staying and also when you’re leaving the country. And if they believe what they hear and see, you’re “accepted” for certain time up to 1 year. So, why surprised ⁉️
Always good to see another informative video from you Jordan, sorry to hear that it’s getting harder to establish residency in Mexico, maybe we can have an exchange program, I can swap places with someone who wants to come to the US for a better life and I will take their place in Mexico to improve mine!
I was planning to go over to Mexico end of this year to travel for 5/6 months.Gonna do more research but it may be time to change my travel plans I think....
I moved to Mexico late March of 2020, got my temp residency within ten days, I am glad they are making it more difficult to get temp or permanent residency, keeps the riff raff out!
When INDIVIDUALS and SMALL families want long term residency it has no major effect on the culture of an area, but WHEN YOU HAVE THESE MASS MIGRATION ATTEMPTS TO AN AREA, LIKE MANY OF THESE BLK AMERICANS ARE TRYING TO DO, IT IS NOT GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY OR THE CULTURE OF THE AREA. Large numbers of urban people who suffer PTSD NO GOOD!
As a mexican I can say it sounds great for México, because the US was doing the same or even more complicated processes. It was about time that México did something about it 🙌
im a mexican too and i dont believe is good for nobody , the mexican economy needs the turists , so if the americans have stupid laws we have to do the same ?
We need tourism that's one thing overstaying without having permits or conditions it's What's not necessarily convinient the same as in other countries, US, Canada, Europe, and more countries set conditions or other kind of visas if they want to stay for more than tourist purposes
@@hectorsaavedra5364 tourism to Mexico is the equivalent of someone giving them a fish to eat for a day. This could be good for Mexico and it seems they are finally trying to learn how to fish.
@@jordanmichael3002 you don’t know nothing about Mexico or Mexican people , we have our own strong culture we are creative and one of the best workers in the world , nobody is teaching us how to fish because we already know , is the opposite may be you should try to go to my country and learn life
Everytime we cross the border into your country, we are asked the same. How long are you staying and where are you staying. I guess is only fair or we adopt the same laws right?
I landed in PV this week and sailed through immigration with my new green card. There were hundreds in the tourist line. so glad I got my green card in 2021.
Hi Jordan! I have been keeping up with the updates and I’m grateful that I’m able to meet the financial requirements and more should it increase. There is also Central and South America. We’ll be there this summer 💖🙏
@@fergomez3817 gracias! I know of a family currently living in Nicaragua and they are loving it there. I will go to Guatemala (my country of birth) but Mexico is where I’m looking to be at 💖🙏
Hi Jordan and Maddie. After a year of watching Tangerine Travels I finally ended up in Qro. Would be happy to buy you a beer as a thank you for all of your hard work 😊
Aloha Jordan. Gracias for the update. Thats a bummer. I started watching Tangerine travrel videos last year. Was all hyped up.to bring my family to Mexico and travel around like you guys did. However, gotta put that plan on hold for now. Stay safe n healthy bro. Hope the Mexican gov eases up on the requirements after the digital nomads and others STOP visiting Mexico.
So they only want "top" (financially) people coming into their country. They have every right to do that. US-Americans are the first to say they don't want "just anyone" coming into their country. Kudos to Mexico.
So what do you need to get a "residency" in California? $250K/year income with $5 million in savings? Let me put that in Mexican money: $5 million/year income with $100 million in savings.
Yep. There's no set requirement, despite whatever a website says. One of the crazy things about Mexico. All depends on what office and individual you talk to.
I think so, too. I didn't like the energy of the last video they did together. One could see they are clearly not over the whole situation. I think Jordan should do videos by himself. It's always great info and his calm and positive way is awesome.
@@leeread6757 You are so ridiculous. Many Mexicans travel to the U.S. on tourist visas. I know because I have family and friends that have vacationed in the U.S. from Mexico. Seeing how your country is going they will take their money and spend it in other countries as well. Seriously, the comments from you and other closet racists are why the United States is headed toward a social collapse. The good gringos like Jordan and Maddie left, so they don’t have to deal with this nonsense.
The same thing is happening in Colombia, they are downgrading a bunch of visas and substantially raising all the requirements. They created a new digital nomad visa but eliminated residency for real estate investors, severely reducing the amount of foreign investment into the country. No idea how this makes sense, all I know is I got lucky to get Colombian residency when I did, and I’ll hopefully be grandfathered into the new system.
@@jeffbruno847 From what I understand the changes have not officially been implemented yet but they will require proof of 3x minimum wage every single month, and you will have to be registered as an independent contractor or employee of a company. A good insurance policy will be required and there are a bunch of other rules and requirements. I’m no expert but if you want to find out more the law firm Langon has published some info on this on their blog.
@M J Not gonna happen as Colombia is de facto a NATO member outside Europe. US military bases there and even US porn companies are opening branches there and importing Colombian actrecess to the US
Right on with all points! Residency requirements have definitely gotten stricter, even via marriage (SMH)! So thankful that after over a decade of office politics & ever-changing requirements @ the MX consulate offices in Chicago, under the new regime was finally able to obtain dual nationality (from my parents) to help facilitate future relocation to MX 🙏🏻 hope to see ya’ll there one day!
It took 10 years for dual nationality? I'm in San Antonio and was considering beginning the process... both my parents were mexican-born... I don't think I'll outlive the outcome 🤯.
Thank you Jordan, for the information. Sadly, this makes Ecuador look much more attractive now. I was really looking forward to my twilight years in Guanajuato.
I'm in Ecuador now, I was thinking of heading to Colombia next followed by Mexico. I have great love for Mexico, but, looks like I might not be returning, I never stayed less than 4 months when I visit, so, not going to risk being given one to two or so weeks, just not worth it. If things ever change, I'll put Mexico back on my travel to list, for now, my heart is broken, but, loving Montanita, Ecuador might just extend my stay here and then visit Colombia later in the year.
Me too, Purisima awaits me, its been many a year since Ive visited there. My oldest daughter is a citizen and lives in Hidalgo, I hope it won't be so hard to get citizenship for me when I finally can retire down there.
In select areas, no doubt. With that said, many Mexicans want to move to those places because the huge population of foreigners has also made earning potential/wages go up substantially.
A very good video. With regard to temporary or permanent residency status, it would be nice to include engagement or marriage as a means of obtaining residency. Perhaps you can talk about this a future video. Thank you.
I began my Temporale at the same time as Jordan and I am so glad as I would not qualify under the new requirements. Now I can slide into my Permanente with no need to re-qualify! Lucky!
I experienced this situation when I flew to Mexico City, two years ago, customs asked how long i was staying in Mexico, two weeks i said, they stamped the passports for 18 days stay, i was really surprised since it was 180 days automatically. I think the process to enter and travel is getting more cumbersome and restricted, the E.U. will be asking for prior travel approval effective 2022. Asian countries like Singapore, Thailand, Korea and some others are restricting tourism by imposing more paperwork, travel insurance, hotel reservation in advance and so on... It's a shame but it is what it is.
@@ayuanabradford3206 The ones with no or expired FMMs or expired visas are the only ones doing something illegal. As long as someone has a valid FMM, they are not going around the law; they are abiding the law.
@@MountaintopKitchen People who live in Mexico for 6 months, return to their countries for a week, then return to live in Mexico for another 6 months are not tourists. They're immigrants, and they're abusing the system set up for actual tourists. They are no better than those with expired FMMs or even those flatly entering the country illegally.
@@lisbetsalcedo970 That's right. I'm a gringo, and years ago I worked for Aramco Oil in Saudi Arabia. I got a housing allowance, and the company arranged my local residency work permit (iqamma). I wasn't trying to become a perm resident, or citizen. THAT'S AN EXPAT...MY FELLOW GRINGOS. Now, when I retire, I might move to Mexico with my wife, who is from Monterrey, NL. I'll go through the whole process of applying for residency, and possibly citizenship...during this time, I would call myself an immigrant, not an "expat." I'm also not surprised they'd clamp down on visas, considering how warm and friendly our last president was towards Mexico. 🙄
Mexico does need to protect their borders, people should follow the law and and customs of the country that they are entering. But if someone does properly apply for entry or residency they shouldn’t be penalized for that.
Thanks for this information! We’ve also been keeping an eye out on this situation. I definitely think digital nomads and location independent workers will start heading south into other Central / South America countries.
but doesnt that mean avoid MX all together because of their Visa rules now? Youd have to fly over MX and skip it completely or pay for hotels the entire way down before even going.
Unfortunately, or fortunately, that is the case for me. I have been to Mexico a total of 83 days my entire life, and in 20 days I'm out to the neighboring countries.
Malaysia and the Philippines enacted similar laws. Having a bunch of "undocumented workers" is problematic for countries. I would see retired people as less problematic if they employ Mexicans. For that objective, they need to be rich or retired. In either case, the tens of millions of foreigners that go to Cancun, will have no problem with this measure.
It’s all fine. Mexico doesn’t exist for American expects to have a cheap retirement. It’s their own country and they’re fine without us. We never talk about what Expats do to cause these issues.
Why not? If it doesn't make sense why do it? Tourists aren't down there breaking the law or staying illegally. They spend money. They're about the easiest source of revenue there is.
This is a thoughtful message. I have always wondered why my beautiful country welcomes everyone with no restrictions. Mexicans have been limited to get a visa approved, to visit their loved ones in this country. Mexicans have been denied to even enter the US, to visit do to the high levels of migration. However, many tourists have been privileged to visit Mexico for years, and have lived and move in very easily. I am glad Mexico is having this controlled differently now.
@@rexx9496 Actually I heard a lot of tourists do illegal stuff in Mexico like buying illegal drugs, getting drunk and destroying property/ the environment, bringing in the virus, etc
@@rexx9496 I'm sure you would like to believe that, but he obviously is starting to see things differently and rightly so. You sound extremely entitled. Typical. PLAN your next visit like a normal person. Stop assuming we can treat people like garbage and not have it reciprocated. This was a long time coming, and I see zero issues with it.
@@susanagutierrez5333 As a result of Mexico's welcoming hospitality, tourists (especially Americans) feel entitled to come and go as we please while having the audacity to mistreat them when they visit us. Clearly, many, many Americans ARE using Mexico as their second home without wanting to declare residency. These people just don't want to admit it. We truly are selfish. My family and I plan to visit Mexico and we will have no problem with having proof of reservations and duration of stay. This just makes perfect sense to a reasonable person.
It's getting hard to see travel in the future being very much fun. We keep thinking covid will end but it hasn't. It may end sometime soon or there might be a new variant making it worse. I'm starting to look at staying in the US is a rural area.
Consider Puerto Rico. No federal tax, no visa,just stay 183 days per year to maintain permanent residency. You are free to work with permanent residency, all in all a much better deal than Mexico.
I enjoy seeing your vlogs. I have a bit of a different take on the changes. First of all, you pointed out the the average wage now for Mexicans is $8usd / day. I don't know anyone that would work for that wage or even close to that in the USA. I'm glad the wages have raised for them. My second point is almost every traveler that I have meet here in the state of Oaxaca would be considered rich by Mexican standards. And lastly, there is nothing work with have to pay for your way anywhere.
This is going on all around the world. If you watch univision, they explained that the reason for the chainge is 'remote work". Foreign workers are enjoying the benifits of the country and not paying taxes, not contributing to infrastructure maintence and repair. At least that is what the minister said
Well if people are earning in a country and benefitting from lower living costs, then they should pay taxes! But in many countires you can only stay 90 days at best os why should they pay taxes if they have to move around all the time? Some places are creating new regulations for digital nomads. With time adjustments are made.
Time to explore other Latin countries. I was considering buy an apartment in the northern part in the dominican republic. And they don't have a laundry list of requirements
I just have to say this, in all country’s there’s rules and restrictions. So don’t feel like my Mexico is doing you dirty. When we have to travel to your country we have to use your embassy in are country and you have to pay $50000.00 pesos and that is still not a guarantee you will have the VISA, so just if you want to invest, come to visit are country respect are rules like we do. And that is not to mention what recently happen to the plan that came from Canada. So just do what they say like we do with your embassy and RESPECT ARE RULES. Talking about your deportation we should also talk about the family’s that get deporte so it’s okay for country’s to deport are people but we can’t deport your people that is a DOUBLE STANDARD
Interesting, I’ve been hearing a lot about this in the expat Facebook groups. My situation is different since I am married to a local but I’ve definitely been following what’s going on bc I haven’t gone through the process of obtaining my residency yet. Thanks for covering this topic Jordan!
I am considering marrying a local and wonder how all these changes will affect that process. I feel like everything everywhere is tightening up in a way that gives people fewer choices, so I don't want to wait too long.
@@stevenclyde5400 @Steven Clyde Just download Telegram, that's the last platform allowing free speech. All the other major platforms such as (my post was being deleted so I can't even mention them, but this very platform we are on right now is one of them) delete (I was about to use different word here but they were deleting my comment) topics which go against the agendas those platforms promote.. I'm from London (UK) and using Telegram group called - (cant mention it here because my comments is being deleted, so fell free to email me and I'll happily pass you the name of the group), and in this group I was able to find expaths communities in Mexico etc.. Good luck!
@@stevenclyde5400 the main ones are Expats in Mexico and Expats living in Mexico. There’s also Digital Nomads Mexico and specific expats groups for most big cities!
@@geonav1 well I can tell you the last year has been hard to get much done bc of COVID. We were married in Mexico and the documents they wanted from me were INSANE. Took so long. Our daughter was born here in August so we also had to go through the process for her documents, both MXN and US.
When people were going across the border every six months that was illegal also but not prosecuted, having permanent residency for 15 years I could not meet the requirements now with out selling my investments here .
Do you know how much paperwork I had to show to the INS, as a US college educated Canadian citizen, in the early 80s in order to get what was called a Green Card? I look forward to applying for permanent residency in Mexico. Great video as always 🤟🏻
I love Mexico, have been there frequently, and ideally would like to spend winters there if and when I retire. I also enjoy your videos. However, there was an air of entitlement in this one, which made me feel uneasy. Countries have a right to set immigration rules, and any changes in Mexico are probably the result of people abusing the system. I am from the UK. My country and the US have among the most restrictive and hostile immigration systems in the world. In both countries I know of people who have been denied entry and/or visas for arbitrary reasons. It is a fairly glaring double standard when we complain about countries like Mexico enforcing the spirit as well as the letter of immigration rules in the way authorities do in our countries.
Seriously! Thank you Neil! My family in Peru is denied visas, even to my wedding. Fear they will over stay the visa since they look at your financials, plus they charge so much just to apply. Each country can set up their own rules and if this is true it’s likely just a way to get back at the US and this might be a way to drive US citizens to ask their govt to do something about it and bring the US to the table on immigration issues. This deals with treatment of their people after all. It’s all tit for tat.
LMAO! The UK & US have "restrictive...hostile" rules? Tell that to the musims that have taken over the UK & the millons of illegal Mexicans in the US. Try visiting Saudi Arabia.
Thanks for the video. I've already started exploring the idea of other places to possibly relocate too. Even the average US retiree on SS only will not qualify to live in Mexico with these new policies.
We sold everything in Florida and became permanent residents in 2018 after a 35 year career in medicine, before COVID. So glad we did..who knew what was to come. Ay!
@@cassandragarcia3363 Mexico just announced they are going to CBDC in 2024 which every major country will be going to soon. Research New World Order. No escaping what is coming which is total control of all people via UBI/CBDC and social credit scores.
@@cassandragarcia3363 hes referring to the theory that chinas social credit system is coming to the entire world eventually. i would hope that mexico would put up a fight, but i think the globalists will get what they want unfortunately. its all written.
Hola🌴 I’m a Mexican resident now, after living in PVR almost 7 years. I honestly hope that now it won’t be so over-run with herds of Gringos during holidays such as Easter week, etc. I wrote to you specifically, previously about information regarding moving to 🌴Querétaro. Please, 🌮 is there anyway to private message you?? I’m proud that I’m a Gringo that has studied & speak Spanish👍.
Well I’m hearing alot of gringos moving to Querétaro. I know because my fiancé who Mexican said he hope Querétaro don’t turn into like Mexico city as Querétaro is a calm relaxed place
Well, good for Mexico bad for US citizens who love Mexico. I've been planning to travel Mexico for many years, thus the reason I started following your channel. I don't blame Mexico though. I'm sure there tired of being constantly slammed while being so hospitable.
If people love Mexico so much they should follow and respect Mexico's immigration laws instead of trying to get around them. Just because laws weren't heavily imposed before, everything changes and Mexico is simply catching to what most middle and high income countries do.
Yes I do agree that Mexicans are tired but mostly of Central Americans actually three days ago Mexico informed that they will require visas from Venezuelan people
It's mainly due to US pressure. Due to Covid there is a record number of citizens from other countries trying to come to Mexico as tourists with the aim of crossing into the US illegal. So the US is demanding Mexico to be more strict on tourists. So wish granted. It's up to the immigration official to enforce the new immigration rules whether tourists come from wealthy developed countries or citizens from South America, Africa or the middle east. Let's see how this turns out. Greetings from Guadalajara ❤️🇲🇽🇺🇲🛂
Constantly slammed? They're literally making so much money off of these gringos. Gringos are spending money that they earned in the USA on the mexican economy. Are you aware of how much rent is for a mexican in mexico? Around $50-100usd a month.. Meanwhile, how much do gringos pay per month for an Air B N B in mexico? Around $700-800 a month.. Is this helping the mexicans who are renting these apartments to gringos? Yes, you better believe it. So i think the argument that "good for Mexico" doesn't make much sense. Gringos are not taking jobs from Mexicans, they are GIVING them jobs. Mexicans who come to USA illegally, are TAKING jobs from Americans, and then sending their money back to mexico all the while taking advantage of social services that Americans are heavily taxed for. Unfair? Kinda. I have read that the REAL reason for these strict new rules with immigration is due to the caravans of people coming from south america - mexico is trying to prevent THESE people from taking advantage... and it's also affecting everyone else trying to stay longer.
This is exactly why we are working on our TR *THIS YEAR* around October or November before the next price hike, then complete it next year at this time on a short visit. We'll have to come back to the USA to move/store/sell our belongings for the final move. Thank you for referring Mario.
I just published another video on this topic. In this new video I update you on some things, as well as address some misconceptions and misunderstandings that I noticed repeated in the comments of this video. ruclips.net/video/loTKqQPxiU4/видео.html
Omg
Minimum wage does not increase wealth of people working.
I moved to Mexico in '98 and lived there for a couple of years, came back to the States and then went back to Mexico for another 9 months a few years later. I actually read quite a bit about Mexican immigration law while I was down there (it's all been on the internet since back then). The idea behind the 180 days is to go to Mexico and spend 180 days or less AS A TOURIST and leave. It was never intended that people would cross the border and come right back. People were, of course, doing this back when I lived there, but it wasn't always allowed. Sometimes people were denied reentry specifically because they were trying to get around the INTENT of the law. I had friends that lived down there for years and would cross to Belize for the weekend and come back. They'd usually only get 90 days doing that, not that it really mattered. They'd just go to Belize every 3 months. But sometimes people got denied re-entry and couldn't get back.
Mexico has a real problem with people working there illegally on tourist visas.
Technically, if you're staying long term but on a tourist visa, you're violating the intent of the law. You should get a work visa or some other visa that allows you to stay there legally as the law intends, just as Americans expect Mexicans to obey the intent of our laws.
Hello Pete, laws are written so that no interpretation of the law is necessary. "Intent" is subject to different viewpoints. If people could come and go as permanent tourists it means the laws were poorly written.
@@alanserjeant4947 "Hello Pete, laws are written so that no interpretation of the law is necessary"
Then why do we have courts? If there's no interpretation needed, anyone with a lawbook could interpret the law and apply it.
And Mexican laws aren't written that way. In fact, nearly every clause of their immigration law ends with something along the lines of, "or as decided by the local head of immigration," basically meaning that their immigration laws are extraordinarily flexible from the point of view of the local head of immigration. They can choose to let you stay or kick you out because of the color of your hair.
@@petedavis7970 to answer your 1st question, we have courts (in the US) because of the presumption of innocence. If the facts presented indicate guilt, only then would the accused be guilty. But thanks for acknowledging the Mexican laws are poorly written. It's a shame any law would be written to indicate personal bias of an official may change how a law is enforced.
@@FierceMice Mexico doesn't have presumption of innocence. They use Napoleonic code.
You're talking apples and oranges. Mexico's legal system is nothing like America's.
@@petedavis7970 Of course. I am not saying the two systems are anything alike. Just answering your question why there are courts. And agreeing with you that the Mexican laws you mentioned are poorly written. It seems to be a system wrought with the potential for undue influence from multiple sources.
We followed this strategy when we arrived in Mexico City a few weeks ago: polite, deferential, itinerary summary in Spanish/English (60 days), refundable onward flight, proof of accommodations. Were given 180 days no problem.
But you don't need visa to come Mexicans do and is about 140 dolars
That is often the real influence. Be polite and deferential to immigration officers. I've been ashamed as a US citizen at the airport when other US citizens arriving act rude and superior in their attitude. Helps to speak in Spanish too.
@@lorenaledger6547 Of course Americans need avisa, that is what this is all about. And there is a cost. Usually included in the air ticket but sometimes it is doubled by the exit fee. Inform yourself..
@@jeanisdancing you educate yourself. Americans do not need a visa, we have a Forma Migratoria Múltiple which every country is given to track tourists. It’s not a visa. You fill these out on the plane, it’s not a visa you apply for. 🤦🏾♀️
@@PatricenotPatrick Because you do not have to apply in advance does not mean it is not a visa. You have never heard of a VOA - a visa on arrival? Many countries employ that. You do not seem to have traveled very much. Of course it is a visa because the number of days provided - which is the issue now - are limited and if you overstay, you are not legal any more. It is just a word, meaning permission to be on the territory. A universal word.. Maybe you never nerd it before? :(
All this process is what we go through, when we apply for visa to go to USA 🇺🇸 is not easy, actually you guys have it easy !!for us is almost impossible to get visa.
lol tell it. The irony is not lost on me, see how we like it. "GET OUT FILTHY FOREINGERS!!"
I'm so sorry 😞
I moved to Mexico almost 6 years ago as a volunteer missionary. I love this country because the people are so kind and full of joy. The permanent residency requirements for a retired person are very easy if you get a Mexican lawer here to help. You do have to print out 6 months of your most recent bank statements and take all the paperwork to the states to the Mexican consulate and then give all the paperwork to your laywyer back here in Mexico to finish. It is a wonderful country to live in and I love it!
So true
Where in Mexico?
@@catsmeow4003 : All over Mexico has unique places to live & visit. Favorites have been: Queretaro, San Luis Potosi, Guadalajara & Lake Chapala Region, Oaxaca, Los Mochis & Mazatlan in Sinaloa. The resorts are nice but too tourist oriented and not that real Mexico. If I were to pick a resort community it would be Puerto Vallarta.
@@davidhuff4562 I thought Sinaloa had the very dangerous Sinaloa Drug Cartel selling mostly to the USA. Sorry I am wrong.
@Sharon Newton do you find the prices of rentals and other things going higher compared to the dollar?
Based on the comments, it seems there has been a lot of confusion about some aspects of the video...
1. I mentioned that a lot of people coming to Mexico are only allowed in the country for as many days as they can prove that they have a hotel stay. A lot of people in the comments interpreted this to mean that if you have a hotel stay booked for months, you'll be allowed to stay for that entire time. Many others were concerned that if they were staying with family in Mexico, they wouldn't be able to prove that they have anything booked.
- For clarity, just because you don't have a hotel booked doesn't mean you're not going to be able to stay in Mexico for a while. It's perfectly normal for people to come to Mexico and stay with family, immigration knows this. On the other hand, if you think you're going to be able to stay for 180 days just because you book a refundable airbnb or hotel for 6 months straight, there's a good chance you won't get 180 days. It's not normal for someone to book a hotel for 6 months straight and I imagine this would raise red flags with immigration. The length of stay you're given will depend of many factors including: The agent you're dealing with and what kind of mood she's in, your history of visiting Mexico (i.e. do you have a history of coming and staying for months - if so, you're less likely to get a lot of time), what you look like and how old you are (if you look like a budget backpacker, you're less likely to get as much time as someone who looks wealthy), the length of your hotel/airbnb stay, whether or not you're visiting family, if you have a return flight booked, and many other things. If I were coming to Mexico and wanted to stay for a few months without getting residency, In order to give myself the best chance of being allowed to stay for those three months, I'd do something like this... I'd go through customs well dressed to appear as if I have money. I'd book a return flight about 3 months from now. I'd have at least a couple weeks of hotels booked. When the agent asks me how long I'm staying in Mexico, I'd tell her the date of my return flight. If asked about where I'm staying I'd be honest and say I have a hotel booked for 2 weeks but I don't know exactly where I'm staying after that. If I were coming to Mexico and planning to stay with family for a few months, I'd book a return flight for a few months from now, if they ask where I'm staying I'd say I'm staying with my (uncle, parents, brother) or whoever I'm actually staying with.
2. There were a number of comments saying they can't get residency yet because they won't be retired or moving here for a few years. It seems to be a popular belief that if you have residency in Mexico, you have to spend a certain amount of time here. That is not the case. If you have residency, you have the right but not the obligation to live in Mexico. If you think you'll be living in Mexico in the future, if you can qualify, I urge you to get residency now because you may not qualify when it comes time for you to move to Mexico.
Where can this information about the new requirements be found on the internet? After doing a quick search, all the sites I looked at still say a 180 days is automatically granted to US citizens on a tourist visa.
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Thank you for your second point. This is EXACTLY what I’ve been wondering for a while now. It seems like now is a good time to go ahead and start the temporary visa process so that the permanent visa is easier to get in several years time.
Well said and all true... when in doubt always look at the government website it is in English as well.
I walked across the border & told them I was staying for 4 days & they made me buy a 6 month Visa for 30 or 35usd!
The benefits of having dual citizenship is not having the hassles of tourist visas or residency requirements.
@Lost To Adventure ¡Ahuevo!
I first came to Mexico in 1990 when I was an American engineer under a work visa. I returned to the States married to a Queretana. Eventually we both acquired dual citizenship. I'm still an engineer and an elected official in the states, but will be retiring to our home we own in Queretaro. I have a Queretaro driver's license and INE voters registration card. It takes time and effort but the end result is definely worth it.
That's easy to say if you are a dual citizen from birth or shortly after, but to be a naturalized citizen in Mexico still takes work. You still have to go through the whole residency process, live there for many years, and then eventually take a citizenship test (unless you are over 60) to get citizenship.
The other alternative, which I qualified for, was acquiring Mexican citizenship if your parents were born in Mexico and were still Mexican citizens. This process can be done at the Mexican Consulates.
@@gabrielort3531 I’m a US citizen born in Mexico. You mean I don’t automatically have dual citizenship?
To be honest it was bound to happen eventually. It was a very forgiving system before. The envy of a lot of people who would love to do the same in Europe (Schengen area) who has the complicated 90 days out of 180 rule. I do feel very sorry for people who don’t have the means to have dual residency but have family in both places.
And now it's the same for UK as well. Oh well, I wasn't in the UK to vote for Brexit - I was in Querétaro, México . . .
I guess you guys are now experiencing what we Mexican travelers have had for years, I normally get 180 days to stay in US no matter if I'm traveling for business or vacations but sometimes for no apparent reason I only get the exact days of my travel based on the ticket to fly back to Mexico sometimes is that date plus 2 or 3 additional days so what motivates the immigration agent to take those decisions I totally ignore it maybe is just based on the mood he had that day, seems to be totally random.
Right!??? It's kind of crazy how people think this policy changes are nonsense and for us mexicans is like the normal thing when we travel to the US.
Time to marry a national for them papers.
And that is for people with a Visa. Some of us can’t even get to that point…
@@The.Hawaiian.KingdomYou've just made one of the stupidest statements I've ever read. How badly America treats Mexicans really, maybe if they weren't constantly illegally invading America. Thousands entering the US illegally every year with no way to support themselves, demanding the U S taxpayers support them.
How do you think Mexico would react if thousands of Americans illegally crossed into Mexico demanding free rent, food and health care.
Give me a break.
@@leeread6757More demagoguery. lol You probably also claim to “love Mexico” Your comment is absurd. The U.S. economy thrives on the labor provided by Mexicans whether they are there legally or not. The hypocrisy of gringos like you is astounding.
Great content Jordan!! You speak about things no one is speaking about and makes the content very helpful!! You always deliver great quality videos - this is dedication!!
I lived in Mexico for almost two years many years ago. I studied Spanish as a student and then returned to the US. A couple of years later, I moved there again to teach English. I saw many Americans and Canadians take advantage of the lax enforcement of Mexican laws. Most never learned Spanish and just used Mexico to party and forget about real life back home. Now with all the chaos at the US border, Mexico is finally cracking down on every aspect of travel. The "free ride" has ended because too many people refused to respect Mexico.
Yep. Saw the in Bahia de Kino. Gringos or Canadians lived there for years and never bothered to learn Spanish. Some treat Mexicans like servants.
Remember Mexico is now asking for tourist visas to nationals from Ecuador, Brazil and recently Venezuela at US request. They say the measure will probably by applied to more South American countries.
Interesting. I was recently in Cancun for a few months staying in my favorite dive hotel and witnessed many Brazilians spending a night there before heading to the USA to ask for asylum. They didn't speak English or Spanish so I couldn't chat with them to get an idea of the situation in Brazil or what they expected in the USA. I've met refugees from Venezuela in Ecuador and Costa Rica over the past few years, too. Canadians are moving to Mexico in droves to escape harsh measures there. One woman from British Colombia claimed that Trudeau was coming down to Mexico to talk with the Mexican President to prevent Canadians from staying long term. Crazy? Who knows.
@@1EQUALS-INFINITY well of course, theyre more intimidating.
Might makes right, after all.
As they should honestly Central Americans don’t do any good in Mexico
@@pahwraith Is because annoying Human Rights and similar NGO start moaning if the government applies immigration laws on them.
@@marcietownsend3635 Now you mention I did see expats from Costa Rica in southern Mexican states.
I think Mexico is finally getting wise to people that are wanting to retire in Mexico because the US is so expensive.
I don’t think that’s the reason. In fact, INM recently ran a special “regularización” program to let some people without legal “estancia” apply for temporary residency without providing financial qualification. That, to me, sounds like leniency rather than restriction, basically inviting people with open arms to retire here. 😄
Why would they do that…. Don’t they want the tourist’s money? Seems like they are shooting themselves in their foot.
@@metalgirl nah they just don’t want any mofo taking advantage have you not seen south and Central Americans entering Mexico?
@@metalgirl tourism to Mexico is the equivalent of someone giving them a fish to eat for a day. This could be good for Mexico and it seems they are finally trying to learn how to fish.
Wise to?The retirees bring in.a LOT of money to the country! They purchase, they employ, they contribute socially in some cases.
I think that Mexico is preparing for the future of the US.
What future?
what do you mean?
The US is done.
@@benchoflemons398 the majority of Americans can’t afford a $1000 emergency. Stop playing lol
You mean the great Exodus of Canada and US to Mexico in the search of freedom? Then yes.
I’ve been paying attention to the financial requirements for the last 8-10 months. As a Canadian in BC, the financial requirements for permanent residency was low 4300 dollars. Now it’s 5500 dollars Canadian. If I drove 12 hours away to the next consulate in Calgary, it’s 4700 dollars for permanent residency.
A month?? that is very high! If you are talking about Mexico especially. Doesnt make sense. Or for residency in Canada? Even Europe is cheaper!
@@jeanisdancing I know. It’s insane and a deterrent to many. At that requirement, many will look elsewhere to retire or for residency.
@@katemitchell665 So that is a monthly requirement in dollars? Canadian I guess but still....In France - FRANC!E!!! - it is 2000 euros a month plus insurance, which is tricky for Americans. But still.....And if you get a Carte de Sejour you have a lot of privileges. Mexio is putting itself above a beautiful cultivated European country? Which has crime but not constant mass murder from all powerful cartels! The country is cool but let's get real please....
@@jeanisdancing quote from Mexican Consulate website in Vancouver …….average monthly balance equivalent to $222,622.00 Canadian dollars during the last twelve months, or
Original and a photocopy of proof of tax-free monthly income from pensions in an amount greater than $5,566.00 Canadian dollars during the past six months.”.(this is perm residency. Temp residency is 55+K in savings and 3.33K per month)
@@katemitchell665 $200,000? Did I read that right? I am American but I imagine it is somewhat the same. Insane.
You are doing a marvelous job, young man! You impress me to be a decent, compassionate and caring fellow. Thank you for sharing great videos which are such great help to us.
I am glad the people in Mexico are finally getting better pay. That’s great. It must be difficult to watch wealthy Gringos come and enjoy the country when you yourself cannot afford your own homeland. Like Hawaii, where we live.
Its not a living wage. Its $10 USD per day.
It's getting worse gringos are gentrifying some places rapidly
I lived on the Big Island for over 17years. The high cost of living forced me out. I settled in S.E. Asia 16 years ago. Was looking at Mexico last year but...many changes in immigration etc there. Stuck here until something else opens.up. aloha nui loa.
Again it's something I'm advocating for here in Britain being £15 per hour. Our shop workers and care staff have worked so hard during the pandemic it's the least we can do is to pay them enough to enjoy good housing, food and leisure time.
That makes no sense. The people that built those businesses and work in them are all Mexicans. Those people aren't a bunch of indigent farm workers; they're business people and technicians with skilled careers. People in the States have been brainwashed to think Mexico is a bunch of lazy, drunk welfare types.
We just came back to live in Sayulita for another 6 months and were worried about this. Landed in PV a few days ago and got the 180 days no questions asked, and didn’t have to show proof of a flight home or a pre-booked stay. As with many things in Mexico, there is no consistency. You are at the mercy of the immigration official you are standing in front of.
Such a good point. Glad it worked in your favor!
Do people bribe the immigration official or will you end up in trouble , just curious is the only reason I'm asking.
Well that is pretty much the same when I travel to US and no matter if is for vacations or businesses, sometimes they even knowing i will be there a few days or a couple of weeks most of times I still get 180 days but in some other cases they just give me the exact number of days based on the ticket to fly back to Mexico sometimes is let say 2 or 3 additional days so what motivates them to take that decision? I dont know so I guess you always depend on the mood of the immigration officer.
Same in the U.S.
@@tolowreading6807 yeah but to be fair the US has a major problem with people coming to the US and over staying visas illegally and never leaving. I don't think this is a problem the other way around. So it doesn't make sense for the policy to be the same for both. Especially when billions in tourist dollars are on the table for Mexico.
Everything makes sense now. We were in Mexico over New Year’s, and I was surprised to see that our visa was only valid for the time we were staying, about 12 days. I’ve been watching your videos for about a year and with both of my kids learning Spanish and entering high school, we are planning to spend more time in Mexico, hopefully branching out from some of the better known tourist destinations. Thank you for letting us know! It will be a lot easier to plan now that I’m aware of the change.
I just entered Mexico for the first time and received 180 day visa . Perhaps dumb luck or first time courtesy.
Maybe ask ford quarter man El gringo Mexican o
@M J Yet, what a shame it would be to limit the cross-cultural sharing and understanding that can result from tourism in the short-term. In addition, not everyone can afford to pick up and move to another country for months at a time. Fair wages are important, but other valuable aspects of travel enter into this equation.
@@SScherliss Which airport did you fly in at? :)
Why surprised? Had you asked for more days?
As always Jordan you do your homework. Your information here is spot on. This was the 1st RUclips I watched regarding immigration law changes. There are a few more now. There does not seem to be information on either the US or MX government websites explaining or even announcing the changes. While I am waiting for a consulate appoint I have heard some workarounds to renew my 180's without a 6-month lease.Thanks! Robert, Ensenada BC Norte.
It took longer than I thought for the Mexicans to review their immigration regulations. What I mean is way back in the 80s when I had a chance to apply for Mexican citizenship I did because I thought things were just too easy at thr time. I was married to a Mexican so this option was available to me and I took it and now I am so grateful because I still carry a Mexican passport even though I no longer live there.
Mostly I wanted to congratulate you and thank you for the way you do these videos - realistically and truthfully. People need to know the truth and you don’t sugarcoat it. You are helping keep the wrong kind of people out of my country!
Thank you for the immigration specialist referral! Perfect timing! I am actually looking for someone to help me get residency. You and Maddie offer great content and I love watching your videos.
I recently got my temporal visa. In my opinion it's so worth it. It takes some time to get an appointment and every consultate has different rules. Hiring a good immigration faciliator is a small, but important investment because you'll walk in the door at the consulate knowing you have done your paperwork correctly. It took me three weeks to get an appointment, and I was in and out in under an hour. I'm so excited to pick up my card in a couple of weeks.
Are you living in Mexico full time? Im not ready to move, maybe in 5 years or so but wondering if I should get residency now. My husband is a Mexican national and lives in Mexico. I live in the US ans will be here until retirement for another 5 years or more.
@@Nola1176 I will be in a few weeks.
What consulate did you use, Denise? The one in Seattle is way booked up. The one in Phoenix seems to be the easiest.
Hmmm sounds like the country is thinking of it’s citizens first. While this puts a damper on my plans, things are so bad in the USA, I will do whatever I need to do to get out.
It is getting bad in the usa, but around the world this is happening. As a Mexican, i am sure a small town in a poor state will be the same aa a small town in a "poor" state in the usa (in terms of quality of life, just more money)
What about the Mexican citizens who depend on tourism. A lot of cities and a few states depend on the dollars flowing in easily.
@@velakevin authorities are not denying the entry, just controlling the number of days the travaleres are staying.
If you think the USA is bad try China! Everywhere the places are overpopulated problems abound.
@@MikeRobCas but the people who stay more spend more amigo. I have seen it. Besides people who frequent hostels, most, like usa citizens and Russians, spend heavily
Cancun is getting close to record tourism right now. It was the #2 travel destination in the world in 2021. 95% plus of the tourists stay no more than a week and are completely unaffected by this change. This will have zero adverse impact on tourism.
And that's what the MX admin wants... Lots of people to come in and dump cash and leave.
Mexico is notoriously provincial about itself. They want your money, but not YOU. Stupid and short-sighted.
Because Mexico stayed open the last 2 years while most others didn't. As everywhere else reopens and MX is now making things so much more difficult, tourism will have a shock.
@@kemosabe5120 No - tourism is fine. This simply means that digital nomads cannot come here anymore and live indefinitely on a tourist permit. Tourists spend a lot of money. Backpackers and nomads not so much.
@M J The very low levels of ANY language spoken in the United States, other than English, is indicative that most locals are actually xenophobic... fact.
U missed the point lol everyone knows Cancun stayin up
I came into Mexico through Cancun on Saturday, and they were only giving visitors a tourist visa for the amount of days they had accommodations booked. While I didn't have anything booked after the first week, I had a return ticket booked for the end of April, so that saved me. They gave me 130 days (10 days past my return flight) and they were even reluctant to do that. A lot of people were walking out of the airport disappointed.
Funny how the tables turn… I’ve been trying to get a US Visa for years (I’m mexican) just for tourism, and just haven’t been able.
Not to mention mexicans trying to get residency in the US…
And to be honest, this new requirements are trying to protect locals from the madness happening in places like Tulum, which a few years ago was a charming, cheap destination and it now has become a gringo priced hell, where locals are not even able to afford to live there anymore.
This has happened to San Miguel de Allende, Ajijic, Cabo and many other places where now mexicans can’t afford to visit or even live in.
@junvarc Thank you for sharing this perspective. Two of my adult siblings have, on several occasions, without success applied for tourist visas into the USA. Both are homeowners -with several properties. Both are what may be considered middle-class. Both had plans to visit family and do the touristy type of stuff travelers engage in. And both would return home to continue with their lives. Both were denied. My oldest sibling, after a second application, finally put it this way: “Ya no. No hay necesidad de lamber el c_l@ estadounidense”. It saddened me so much 😢 Travels are only from north to south and I have never been able to reciprocate their generosity by graciously hosting them on this side of the political (sovereign?) border. I had not, until recently, considered Mexican residency or even dual citizenship but it is now a constant mind chatter.
@Juanvrc
I absolutely agree that the gringos drive up prices in the tourist destinations. But now with less of those tourists, the industries will suffer economically. I hope this will be the case in tulum. The prices are just outrageous and waaayy over-commercialized, especially for locals.
@@RubbingPotatoes industries won’t suffer because this does not affect regular tourism. This is a way to control the number of expats staying here raising the cost of living for the locals.
@@junvarc yeah I agree. But also these long term expats are bringing their foreign dollars and euros (overseas pension, investments, employment, whatever) and spending on local goods and services. If the population of expats decreases, so will demand and prices. Is that a "good" thing for the economy? Assume for the sake of argument that these expats are not working locally and taking jobs. 🤔
Life has many ironies.
The days of Mexico travel vloggers are now limited, good thing you guys took your chance when you did
Just landed in CDMX last week and they only granted me 45 days which I had to prove I had a return flight for then. First time in 20 years of visiting/living in Mexico I didn't get the 180 days. I married a Mexican National but still had a lot of questions presented to me at the border. I heard this might be happening but after witnessing the other people in line ahead of me at the border services and my own experience last week, I'm afraid that this seems to be the case. I've heard several reasons why this is happening and I try to look at it from Mexico's prospective, but I think this will be unfortunate for both sides. Thanks for the helpful video Jordan.
Why is Mexico doing this? We only bring $$$ not drugs or any crime, I do ot understand.
Please explain the reasons you've heard, im genuinely curious as to why they are limited US entry?
Looking to my future, do you have any advice for someone that is planning to marry a Mexican national?
John, if you're married to a Mexican you can easily get residency. You're exempt from the financial requirements that the rest of us are subject to.
those changes are a mistake.
We've lived in Mexico with permanent residency visa since 2013 and on temporary (what they then called FM-3) visa for 6 years prior. It was well worth the time and effort to achieve those visas. Yes, it is getting more difficult. Over the span of years living here, we've seen people with minimal love and interest in Mexico and its culture and traditions and come mainly for climate and cost-of-living. Those are folks not needed or wanted here. Real tourists can get that visa stay for length of their proved visit and that is what tourism is. If you want prolonged stay, then work to get it with a residency visa.
David: I've seen the same w many Britons in Spain. They stick to themselves in their gated villas & watching UK telly. Never bother to learn Spanish, make local friends, sad. They are there for the weather, cheap booze, cost of living.
well said!
Most people move to where the jobs are, and where the cost of living is cheaper.
If it were otherwise, many folks would move to Monaco!
So true but I saw that it’s not a very wise decision to live in a country where the laws are not going to protect us from the evil criminals who try to destroy our lives while trying to live and learn mexicos culture and lifestyle! Maybe this will help the government to start helping it’s citizens and heal their mind set of stealing and even worse in my situation! Watch out for any dating apps and scammers! Never travel alone! I ll always have a piece of Mexico in my heart ❤️! Mexico has to make money to possibly pay the families who were robbed of their land and enormous amounts of minerals from years ago! Currently there is a lawsuit suing The Mexican government for stealing land, oil, gold etc. They need to be held accountable for their actions and the people deserve a better life with rules and protection from evil criminals! Enjoy your stay in Mexico! Eat some tacos for me! 🙏
@@apscoradiales : Jobs, cost-of-living and climate are factors in where one moves to live. Won't fault them factors, but it was the warm-hearted people and their lifestyle that attracted me to Mexico. I've been no Monaco--no thanks, Mexico is better.
That magic moment when at 5:00 he was talking about the end of 180 days visa, and "Manhã de Carnaval" sad brazilian song was sounding in background....Magic moment.... I will forward this vid to mexican tourism minister... Hope they make it easier for the people want to travel long time in MX....
Great haircut Jordan!
Thanks for the video. I had already heard that things might be changing. Looks like it’s now in place. Hoping it doesn’t hurt their economy because of this decision.
Best wishes!
Lol...Mexicans will be happy, the less gentrification the better.
Now you know how us Latinos feel trying to stay in the us legally ☹️ getting a residency in the US costs almost a million dollars.
no it doesn't. Liar
@@phillipjuan1201 ok :) 👍
No it doesn’t….. it cost around 10000 if you’re married to a citizen
No with lawyer fees it can range from $2500 USD to $6000 USD or so. Depending on your situation.
I was checked by government officials yesterday while on an ADO bus traveling from Campeche to Merida, luckily I always carry my passport and visa with me. When I arrived in Mexico I was given a visa only for the exact time I would be here.
@@gabrielort3531 by return flight information.
In the last couple years caravans are just breaking into Mexico. Now those that organized those caravans are getting smarter and using the Mexican laws to they’re advantage. That is one big reason why Mexico is being forced to change some policies.
With the new requirements it will certainly keep the gate closed on those caravans. I have a friend who lives in Mexico. She said that sometimes the people in those caravans act demanding with locals when they stop in an area.
That makes sense but is it the same as being a tourist?
@@jeanisdancing yeah because those in the caravans protest once they get into the country and demand visas. With the intention to travel to border and not get deported. So they have the same policies as any tourist.
@@nataliemanzo34 How can you say that? Tourists come to visit, sight see, explore, relax, enjoy. That has nothing to do with the caravans who simply want to transit and get to the border where they hope to cross.
@@jeanisdancing I agree with what you’re saying I think is wrong. But that’s what they do. They use the law in they’re favor.
I was an illegal alien for 10 years, when I first moved here in 95, but we finally had enough money to qualify for the residency requirements. I have permanent status now and cannot envision myself living anywhere else.
I love Mexico and it truly is a land of the free.
@@milademjayyy most Canadians don’t do any paperwork. You don’t need to under 180 days. Most get by visiting home in Canada or the US and then returning. It’s a legal gray area but I’m Mexican and I see Canadians there all the time doing it with Canadian passports at the border lol.
@@milademjayyy also, the way people have lately gotten caught is by leaving for a day or two and coming back. Every time you cross, it’s logged and these folks have made themselves obvious red flags to immigration. Visit home for a week or two or buy property and you’re fine
Mexico is becoming popular. I love it. I can understand why. That kind of puts a damper on my Mexican dream. Well I guess I have to work on a new dream. I had my heart set on moving to Zacatecas.
@Night Rider Thanks! I also like Aguascalientes. I believe it's pretty safe
becoming?
Our experience has been that if you have a return flight booked they dont ask about hotel reservations. This has been for stays anywhere from 2 weeks to 3 months.
How would anyone expect to get 180 days to stay in Mexico when you have a one-way ticket some people just don’t think it through
I purchased a one way. I'll be there for two weeks. I need a return flight? Or I can just show them my airbnb bookings?
@@kushseti8842 buy another one way 5 months out, it's maybe refundable?
The uncertainty is a real problem.
I have met people given random number of days, 10, 32, 40, e.t.c,
But doesn't seem to be a possibility to get say a 3 month visa before travelling either.
This situation makes Mexico untenable as a traveling destination.
Disappointing.
Sad to see your travel plans will have to change. But very glad to see that mexican people will finally be protected against the madness that expats and digital nomads bring to their home towns
@@junvarc luckily my travel plans are unchanged, this time, as I was fortunate to be given 180 days on arrival, but in the future it makes it a bit of a gamble to plan a long trip.
I must admit Mexico is rather full at the moment, not with digital nomads but with everybody! It feels like the world is here, a consequence of the difficulty to go anywhere else I suspect. 👍
Exactly. Why bother booking an itinerary if we have no guarantee that the agent will honor it when we get there?
@@junvarc yes, all of the money they bring in has been so bad for the country.
I’m glad they’re doing these changes in Mexico because many people are moving there but you do something like this is the US it’s a whole different story.
Yeah, these changes are going to make Mexico a nogo for nomads like us. But that is okay, it is their country, their choice. Off to somewhere else!
Add inflation or the US income levels compared to Mexico, it could be an attempt to increase it or revise the requirements and still test the influx and interest in Mexico. Lots of retirees during the pandemic, so these countries see a surge of tourists and those seeking residency.
Great video with important information. Now please do the same research with US requirements for Mexicans to get into that country. US has ALWAYS required traveling Mexicans first to get a very expensive VISA. Then, as you arrive, you have to ALWAYS prove to immigration officials where you’re staying and also when you’re leaving the country. And if they believe what they hear and see, you’re “accepted” for certain time up to 1 year. So, why surprised ⁉️
@M J true but it’s not like the U.S. will ever drain out of jobs
Exactly my thoughts.
@M J It's simple reciprocity though. Mexicans that can afford a US VISA and can afford travel are still vetted at consulates.
@M J Indeed but the average cost of living is more expensive in the US than in Mexico.
@M J Exactly my point. The States would now need to apply for ETIAS, as Europeans have applied for years for an ESTA. Reciprocity.
Always good to see another informative video from you Jordan, sorry to hear that it’s getting harder to establish residency in Mexico, maybe we can have an exchange program, I can swap places with someone who wants to come to the US for a better life and I will take their place in Mexico to improve mine!
Jajajaja thats a good one ☝️👍
I doubt you'll find many Mexicans wanting to trade for that reason these days.
😂right?!
@@facts6659 it's haha not jaja
LOL! sad but TRUE!!!!
I was planning to go over to Mexico end of this year to travel for 5/6 months.Gonna do more research but it may be time to change my travel plans I think....
Welcome to the New World Order of war on the global citizen
Sounds like you just need a return ticket 5/6 months out. That's my plan
I moved to Mexico late March of 2020, got my temp residency within ten days, I am glad they are making it more difficult to get temp or permanent residency, keeps the riff raff out!
When INDIVIDUALS and SMALL families want long term residency it has no major effect on the culture of an area, but WHEN YOU HAVE THESE MASS MIGRATION ATTEMPTS TO AN AREA, LIKE MANY OF THESE BLK AMERICANS ARE TRYING TO DO, IT IS NOT GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY OR THE CULTURE OF THE AREA. Large numbers of urban people who suffer PTSD NO GOOD!
As a mexican I can say it sounds great for México, because the US was doing the same or even more complicated processes. It was about time that México did something about it 🙌
im a mexican too and i dont believe is good for nobody , the mexican economy needs the turists , so if the americans have stupid laws we have to do the same ?
@@hectorsaavedra5364 cierto
We need tourism that's one thing overstaying without having permits or conditions it's What's not necessarily convinient the same as in other countries, US, Canada, Europe, and more countries set conditions or other kind of visas if they want to stay for more than tourist purposes
@@hectorsaavedra5364 tourism to Mexico is the equivalent of someone giving them a fish to eat for a day. This could be good for Mexico and it seems they are finally trying to learn how to fish.
@@jordanmichael3002 you don’t know nothing about Mexico or Mexican people , we have our own strong culture we are creative and one of the best workers in the world , nobody is teaching us how to fish because we already know , is the opposite may be you should try to go to my country and learn life
Everytime we cross the border into your country, we are asked the same. How long are you staying and where are you staying. I guess is only fair or we adopt the same laws right?
Dude minimum wage in Mexico is super low, if you love Mexico become a resident just like we do in the USA and get your dual citizenship.
I landed in PV this week and sailed through immigration with my new green card. There were hundreds in the tourist line. so glad I got my green card in 2021.
More reason and motivation to get my Mexican citizenship and passport based on my parents being born in Mexico. Thanks.
Or get a Mexican partner or have a Mexican kid lol mixed
Aplica en el consulado Mexicano mas cercano, es tu derecho y es facil.
Jess and I have never been to Mexico yet. We would love to visit there someday soon on our travels! Keep up the great content we love your channel! :)
Thank you for another informative video! I truly enjoy the effort you put in to include all the information needed. Have an amazing week 😊😊
now i'm here craving tacos at 5:30 in the morning. good video!
This was not my intention. Sorry!
Right?!? His videos always make me hungry lol
cooked in vegetable oil that causes alz and cancers...I would revise that opinion
@@goutfromfriedokra6852 I don't remember anyone asking your opinion but thank you for the input.
@@ajb2773 if I am reducing your ignorance you should be thankful
Hi Jordan! I have been keeping up with the updates and I’m grateful that I’m able to meet the financial requirements and more should it increase. There is also Central and South America. We’ll be there this summer 💖🙏
Have fun but stay safe if you go to Nicaragua and Honduras 🤷🏻♂️
@@fergomez3817 gracias! I know of a family currently living in Nicaragua and they are loving it there. I will go to Guatemala (my country of birth) but Mexico is where I’m looking to be at 💖🙏
@@fergomez3817 I live in Nicaragua. Its very safe. Much safer here than US or Costa Rica.
Hi Jordan and Maddie. After a year of watching Tangerine Travels I finally ended up in Qro. Would be happy to buy you a beer as a thank you for all of your hard work 😊
Just a little note to thank you since the very beginning for doing such a great job in being so nice, professional and SUPER informative !!!! 👍👏🙌👌🙏
Hi. I really like the videos you are doing on your own now. Very informative. Thanks !
Aloha Jordan. Gracias for the update. Thats a bummer. I started watching Tangerine travrel videos last year. Was all hyped up.to bring my family to Mexico and travel around like you guys did. However, gotta put that plan on hold for now. Stay safe n healthy bro. Hope the Mexican gov eases up on the requirements after the digital nomads and others STOP visiting Mexico.
So they only want "top" (financially) people coming into their country. They have every right to do that. US-Americans are the first to say they don't want "just anyone" coming into their country. Kudos to Mexico.
We don't mind tourists visiting the US.
Yup they always benefit the rich . And people oblivious thinking it's for them.
@@rexx9496 Just as long as they eventually.....LEAVE.
Except the president, If you can call him that, has an open border policy and is flooding the US with illegals…
So what do you need to get a "residency" in California? $250K/year income with $5 million in savings? Let me put that in Mexican money: $5 million/year income with $100 million in savings.
You can also shop around for consulates with favorable requirements
True. I’ve seen consulates with very different monthly income requirements
Yep. There's no set requirement, despite whatever a website says. One of the crazy things about Mexico. All depends on what office and individual you talk to.
Jordan just keeps getting better looking.
I think Jordan seems more natural and easy-going when he’s by himself… 🧐
Agreed
I agree. I think he's doing an excellent job. He's easy going and it comes naturally to him. Seems more relaxed too. You're crushing it Jordan! 😊🙌
Agree!
@@Hankjones1 Are you? Well, that was very brave of you to come out. I wish you the happiness you deserve. Things will get easier over time.
I think so, too. I didn't like the energy of the last video they did together. One could see they are clearly not over the whole situation.
I think Jordan should do videos by himself. It's always great info and his calm and positive way is awesome.
Aren’t they only asking what we here in the US expect of anyone traveling here? Especially if you plan on staying longer than a vacation stay?
Exactly Rachel ‼️
Thank you!! People only seem to worry about their travel plans but fail to see the great picture
No, as the majority of Mexicans enter the US illegally.
@@leeread6757 You are so ridiculous. Many Mexicans travel to the U.S. on tourist visas. I know because I have family and friends that have vacationed in the U.S. from Mexico. Seeing how your country is going they will take their money and spend it in other countries as well. Seriously, the comments from you and other closet racists are why the United States is headed toward a social collapse. The good gringos like Jordan and Maddie left, so they don’t have to deal with this nonsense.
@@leeread6757 that is completely false. Most Mexicans enter legally. Rachel is totally right.
The same thing is happening in Colombia, they are downgrading a bunch of visas and substantially raising all the requirements. They created a new digital nomad visa but eliminated residency for real estate investors, severely reducing the amount of foreign investment into the country. No idea how this makes sense, all I know is I got lucky to get Colombian residency when I did, and I’ll hopefully be grandfathered into the new system.
Any info on this? I don't see any specifics on the digital nomad visa anywhere.
@@jeffbruno847 From what I understand the changes have not officially been implemented yet but they will require proof of 3x minimum wage every single month, and you will have to be registered as an independent contractor or employee of a company. A good insurance policy will be required and there are a bunch of other rules and requirements. I’m no expert but if you want to find out more the law firm Langon has published some info on this on their blog.
@@lifewithclemens Thanks! 3x the minimum wage in Colombia is only like 500-600USD and that's way more reasonable than Mexico's monthly requirement.
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom You mean like China buying up tons of property in the US???
@M J Not gonna happen as Colombia is de facto a NATO member outside Europe. US military bases there and even US porn companies are opening branches there and importing Colombian actrecess to the US
Right on with all points! Residency requirements have definitely gotten stricter, even via marriage (SMH)! So thankful that after over a decade of office politics & ever-changing requirements @ the MX consulate offices in Chicago, under the new regime was finally able to obtain dual nationality (from my parents) to help facilitate future relocation to MX 🙏🏻 hope to see ya’ll there one day!
It took 10 years for dual nationality? I'm in San Antonio and was considering beginning the process... both my parents were mexican-born... I don't think I'll outlive the outcome 🤯.
What about babies?
Great job on the vid Jordan. Good discussion, great graphics and the lovely background.
Thank you Jordan, for the information. Sadly, this makes Ecuador look much more attractive now. I was really looking forward to my twilight years in Guanajuato.
I'm in Ecuador now, I was thinking of heading to Colombia next followed by Mexico. I have great love for Mexico, but, looks like I might not be returning, I never stayed less than 4 months when I visit, so, not going to risk being given one to two or so weeks, just not worth it. If things ever change, I'll put Mexico back on my travel to list, for now, my heart is broken, but, loving Montanita, Ecuador might just extend my stay here and then visit Colombia later in the year.
That’s my retirement plans…Quito 🇪🇨 Ecuador
Well there’s a reason why Mexico did this not only to American citizens but to South America citizens as well
Me too, Purisima awaits me, its been many a year since Ive visited there. My oldest daughter is a citizen and lives in Hidalgo, I hope it won't be so hard to get citizenship for me when I finally can retire down there.
I've always wondered if large numbers of North Americans living in Mexico has been driving up the cost of living for native Mexicans.
Nah, it's called gringo prices. Trust me, the prices for the locals are lower
Yeah it has hell they even gentrified entire neighborhoods, colonias
In select areas, no doubt. With that said, many Mexicans want to move to those places because the huge population of foreigners has also made earning potential/wages go up substantially.
Do you guys have permanent residency now or is it still temporary?
Tulum is the perfect example of a charming and cheap town turned into a gringo priced nightmare.
A very good video. With regard to temporary or permanent residency status, it would be nice to include engagement or marriage as a means of obtaining residency. Perhaps you can talk about this a future video. Thank you.
Please keep us informed about the situation.
Greetings from Vancouver Canada 🇨🇦
I began my Temporale at the same time as Jordan and I am so glad as I would not qualify under the new requirements. Now I can slide into my Permanente with no need to re-qualify! Lucky!
I experienced this situation when I flew to Mexico City, two years ago, customs asked how long i was staying in Mexico, two weeks i said, they stamped the passports for 18 days stay, i was really surprised since it was 180 days automatically. I think the process to enter and travel is getting more cumbersome and restricted, the E.U. will be asking for prior travel approval effective 2022. Asian countries like Singapore, Thailand, Korea and some others are restricting tourism by imposing more paperwork, travel insurance, hotel reservation in advance and so on... It's a shame but it is what it is.
How many days did they enter on your tourist permit, not your passport?
Thats what happens when a few people go around the law and then fuck it up for the rest
@@ayuanabradford3206 The ones with no or expired FMMs or expired visas are the only ones doing something illegal. As long as someone has a valid FMM, they are not going around the law; they are abiding the law.
@@MountaintopKitchen People who live in Mexico for 6 months, return to their countries for a week, then return to live in Mexico for another 6 months are not tourists. They're immigrants, and they're abusing the system set up for actual tourists. They are no better than those with expired FMMs or even those flatly entering the country illegally.
@@owlman_ If INM issued an FMM to someone, they are in the country legally. INM decides this, not you or I.
Mexico should be this way. The way America is toward Mexico, Mexico need to protect their borders too
And they have the nerve to call them self expats when they are immigrants
Mexico doesn't have to be stupid just because the U.S. government is.
Are there "sanctuary cites" in Mexico?
@@lisbetsalcedo970 That's right. I'm a gringo, and years ago I worked for Aramco Oil in Saudi Arabia. I got a housing allowance, and the company arranged my local residency work permit (iqamma). I wasn't trying to become a perm resident, or citizen. THAT'S AN EXPAT...MY FELLOW GRINGOS. Now, when I retire, I might move to Mexico with my wife, who is from Monterrey, NL. I'll go through the whole process of applying for residency, and possibly citizenship...during this time, I would call myself an immigrant, not an "expat." I'm also not surprised they'd clamp down on visas, considering how warm and friendly our last president was towards Mexico. 🙄
Mexico does need to protect their borders, people should follow the law and and customs of the country that they are entering. But if someone does properly apply for entry or residency they shouldn’t be penalized for that.
Thanks for this information! We’ve also been keeping an eye out on this situation. I definitely think digital nomads and location independent workers will start heading south into other Central / South America countries.
Every country has immigration laws, Americans are not exempt from it, become a resident and buy land in México you wont regretted.
but doesnt that mean avoid MX all together because of their Visa rules now? Youd have to fly over MX and skip it completely or pay for hotels the entire way down before even going.
Unfortunately, or fortunately, that is the case for me. I have been to Mexico a total of 83 days my entire life, and in 20 days I'm out to the neighboring countries.
Malaysia and the Philippines enacted similar laws. Having a bunch of "undocumented workers" is problematic for countries. I would see retired people as less problematic if they employ Mexicans. For that objective, they need to be rich or retired. In either case, the tens of millions of foreigners that go to Cancun, will have no problem with this measure.
It’s all fine. Mexico doesn’t exist for American expects to have a cheap retirement. It’s their own country and they’re fine without us. We never talk about what Expats do to cause these issues.
Indeed!
That’s a two way street baby.
#Pure Snobbery
I just got my temporary residency in Tucson this week. I had to prove I made $3,000 USD per month.
As an American, I can't fault Mexico for controlling how WE travel to and from their beautiful country.
Why not? If it doesn't make sense why do it? Tourists aren't down there breaking the law or staying illegally. They spend money. They're about the easiest source of revenue there is.
This is a thoughtful message. I have always wondered why my beautiful country welcomes everyone with no restrictions.
Mexicans have been limited to get a visa approved, to visit their loved ones in this country. Mexicans have been denied to even enter the US, to visit do to the high levels of migration. However,
many tourists have been privileged to visit Mexico for years, and have lived and move in very easily.
I am glad Mexico is having this controlled differently now.
@@rexx9496 Actually I heard a lot of tourists do illegal stuff in Mexico like buying illegal drugs, getting drunk and destroying property/ the environment, bringing in the virus, etc
@@rexx9496 I'm sure you would like to believe that, but he obviously is starting to see things differently and rightly so. You sound extremely entitled. Typical. PLAN your next visit like a normal person. Stop assuming we can treat people like garbage and not have it reciprocated. This was a long time coming, and I see zero issues with it.
@@susanagutierrez5333 As a result of Mexico's welcoming hospitality, tourists (especially Americans) feel entitled to come and go as we please while having the audacity to mistreat them when they visit us. Clearly, many, many Americans ARE using Mexico as their second home without wanting to declare residency. These people just don't want to admit it.
We truly are selfish.
My family and I plan to visit Mexico and we will have no problem with having proof of reservations and duration of stay. This just makes perfect sense to a reasonable person.
It's getting hard to see travel in the future being very much fun. We keep thinking covid will end but it hasn't. It may end sometime soon or there might be a new variant making it worse. I'm starting to look at staying in the US is a rural area.
Try Cuenca Ecuador
Covid isn't going to end until the government has full control
Consider Puerto Rico. No federal tax, no visa,just stay 183 days per year to maintain permanent residency. You are free to work with permanent residency, all in all a much better deal than Mexico.
@@michaelbeggs2013 hopefully it's still nice in Puerto Rico, my mom was born on El junke, beautiful people. All the best.
How can it end when it never existed?
I enjoy seeing your vlogs. I have a bit of a different take on the changes. First of all, you pointed out the the average wage now for Mexicans is $8usd / day. I don't know anyone that would work for that wage or even close to that in the USA. I'm glad the wages have raised for them. My second point is almost every traveler that I have meet here in the state of Oaxaca would be considered rich by Mexican standards. And lastly, there is nothing work with have to pay for your way anywhere.
Hi Jordan, It was nice running into you on The Strip today.
So which are the requirements in the US to get residency? It seems to me that you are complaining for them to be rising their standards.
Good to see that Mexico is raising the standard for it's poorest workers!
This is going on all around the world. If you watch univision, they explained that the reason for the chainge is 'remote work". Foreign workers are enjoying the benifits of the country and not paying taxes, not contributing to infrastructure maintence and repair. At least that is what the minister said
Well if people are earning in a country and benefitting from lower living costs, then they should pay taxes! But in many countires you can only stay 90 days at best os why should they pay taxes if they have to move around all the time? Some places are creating new regulations for digital nomads. With time adjustments are made.
I believe it. The entitilement.
Time to explore other Latin countries. I was considering buy an apartment in the northern part in the dominican republic. And they don't have a laundry list of requirements
I just have to say this, in all country’s there’s rules and restrictions. So don’t feel like my Mexico is doing you dirty. When we have to travel to your country we have to use your embassy in are country and you have to pay $50000.00 pesos and that is still not a guarantee you will have the VISA, so just if you want to invest, come to visit are country respect are rules like we do.
And that is not to mention what recently happen to the plan that came from Canada. So just do what they say like we do with your embassy and RESPECT ARE RULES. Talking about your deportation we should also talk about the family’s that get deporte so it’s okay for country’s to deport are people but we can’t deport your people that is a DOUBLE STANDARD
I am agree whit you.
Interesting, I’ve been hearing a lot about this in the expat Facebook groups. My situation is different since I am married to a local but I’ve definitely been following what’s going on bc I haven’t gone through the process of obtaining my residency yet. Thanks for covering this topic Jordan!
I am considering marrying a local and wonder how all these changes will affect that process. I feel like everything everywhere is tightening up in a way that gives people fewer choices, so I don't want to wait too long.
Can you link to a few of these groups? I’m interested in joining them. I’m not sure if links show up here, so names of the groups will suffice!
@@stevenclyde5400 @Steven Clyde Just download Telegram, that's the last platform allowing free speech. All the other major platforms such as (my post was being deleted so I can't even mention them, but this very platform we are on right now is one of them) delete (I was about to use different word here but they were deleting my comment) topics which go against the agendas those platforms promote..
I'm from London (UK) and using Telegram group called - (cant mention it here because my comments is being deleted, so fell free to email me and I'll happily pass you the name of the group), and in this group I was able to find expaths communities in Mexico etc..
Good luck!
@@stevenclyde5400 the main ones are Expats in Mexico and Expats living in Mexico. There’s also Digital Nomads Mexico and specific expats groups for most big cities!
@@geonav1 well I can tell you the last year has been hard to get much done bc of COVID. We were married in Mexico and the documents they wanted from me were INSANE. Took so long. Our daughter was born here in August so we also had to go through the process for her documents, both MXN and US.
When people were going across the border every six months that was illegal also but not prosecuted, having permanent residency for 15 years I could not meet the requirements now with out selling my investments here .
Thanks Jordan.
Great info as always!
Do you know how much paperwork I had to show to the INS, as a US college educated Canadian citizen, in the early 80s in order to get what was called a Green Card? I look forward to applying for permanent residency in Mexico. Great video as always 🤟🏻
I love Mexico, have been there frequently, and ideally would like to spend winters there if and when I retire. I also enjoy your videos. However, there was an air of entitlement in this one, which made me feel uneasy. Countries have a right to set immigration rules, and any changes in Mexico are probably the result of people abusing the system. I am from the UK. My country and the US have among the most restrictive and hostile immigration systems in the world. In both countries I know of people who have been denied entry and/or visas for arbitrary reasons. It is a fairly glaring double standard when we complain about countries like Mexico enforcing the spirit as well as the letter of immigration rules in the way authorities do in our countries.
Seriously! Thank you Neil! My family in Peru is denied visas, even to my wedding. Fear they will over stay the visa since they look at your financials, plus they charge so much just to apply. Each country can set up their own rules and if this is true it’s likely just a way to get back at the US and this might be a way to drive US citizens to ask their govt to do something about it and bring the US to the table on immigration issues. This deals with treatment of their people after all. It’s all tit for tat.
LMAO! The UK & US have "restrictive...hostile" rules? Tell that to the musims that have taken over the UK & the millons of illegal Mexicans in the US. Try visiting Saudi Arabia.
Thanks for the video. I've already started exploring the idea of other places to possibly relocate too. Even the average US retiree on SS only will not qualify to live in Mexico with these new policies.
We sold everything in Florida and became permanent residents in 2018 after a 35 year career in medicine, before COVID. So glad we did..who knew what was to come. Ay!
@@cassandragarcia3363 Mexico just announced they are going to CBDC in 2024 which every major country will be going to soon. Research New World Order. No escaping what is coming which is total control of all people via UBI/CBDC and social credit scores.
@@queserasera1674 WTF are you talking about?
@@cassandragarcia3363 U will find out in the not too distant future.
@@cassandragarcia3363 hes referring to the theory that chinas social credit system is coming to the entire world eventually. i would hope that mexico would put up a fight, but i think the globalists will get what they want unfortunately. its all written.
Excellent info as always
Hola🌴 I’m a Mexican resident now, after living in PVR almost 7 years. I honestly hope that now it won’t be so over-run with herds of Gringos during holidays such as Easter week, etc. I wrote to you specifically, previously about information regarding moving to 🌴Querétaro.
Please, 🌮 is there anyway to private message you?? I’m proud that I’m a Gringo that has studied & speak Spanish👍.
Well I’m hearing alot of gringos moving to Querétaro. I know because my fiancé who Mexican said he hope Querétaro don’t turn into like Mexico city as Querétaro is a calm relaxed place
thats not too bad! i had to wait about 30 years to get my u.s. residency
Jordan I love your videos, you found your lane keep doing a great job.
When a door closes, a window opens. Other countries will benefit.
yea but not one Americans can freely walk to. This is the evil nwo plan. War on commies is need now.
My friend and I just drove across with no problem. Got 180 days. I wonder if this is mainly air travel where they aren't giving 180 days.
Well, good for Mexico bad for US citizens who love Mexico. I've been planning to travel Mexico for many years, thus the reason I started following your channel. I don't blame Mexico though. I'm sure there tired of being constantly slammed while being so hospitable.
If people love Mexico so much they should follow and respect Mexico's immigration laws instead of trying to get around them. Just because laws weren't heavily imposed before, everything changes and Mexico is simply catching to what most middle and high income countries do.
Yes I do agree that Mexicans are tired but mostly of Central Americans actually three days ago Mexico informed that they will require visas from Venezuelan people
It's mainly due to US pressure. Due to Covid there is a record number of citizens from other countries trying to come to Mexico as tourists with the aim of crossing into the US illegal. So the US is demanding Mexico to be more strict on tourists. So wish granted. It's up to the immigration official to enforce the new immigration rules whether tourists come from wealthy developed countries or citizens from South America, Africa or the middle east. Let's see how this turns out. Greetings from Guadalajara ❤️🇲🇽🇺🇲🛂
Constantly slammed? They're literally making so much money off of these gringos. Gringos are spending money that they earned in the USA on the mexican economy. Are you aware of how much rent is for a mexican in mexico? Around $50-100usd a month.. Meanwhile, how much do gringos pay per month for an Air B N B in mexico? Around $700-800 a month.. Is this helping the mexicans who are renting these apartments to gringos? Yes, you better believe it. So i think the argument that "good for Mexico" doesn't make much sense. Gringos are not taking jobs from Mexicans, they are GIVING them jobs. Mexicans who come to USA illegally, are TAKING jobs from Americans, and then sending their money back to mexico all the while taking advantage of social services that Americans are heavily taxed for. Unfair? Kinda. I have read that the REAL reason for these strict new rules with immigration is due to the caravans of people coming from south america - mexico is trying to prevent THESE people from taking advantage... and it's also affecting everyone else trying to stay longer.
@@katytoy feel you. tourist are contributing to the economy but now are getting slam because of other migrants. Blame Biden for this one.
This is exactly why we are working on our TR *THIS YEAR* around October or November before the next price hike, then complete it next year at this time on a short visit. We'll have to come back to the USA to move/store/sell our belongings for the final move. Thank you for referring Mario.