The Pensioner Who Hid a WWII Panther Tank in his Basement
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Collecting war memorabilia is nothing uncommon, but rare are the people that have collections as impressive as the elderly German gentleman we are going to talk about today. Under German privacy laws, his identity was kept a secret, being dubbed as Klaus-Dieter F. Klaus was a millionaire and he loved collecting Nazi Germany memorabilia. Guns, uniforms, medals, the things in his collection grew in both number and size and included things like torpedoes, 8.8cm flak cannon and, as a crown jewel of his collection, a partially functional demilitarised PzKpfw V Panther tank, which he kept in the basement of his villa. He had that tank for over 40 years, even taking it out to clean snow during winter, but in 2015 the authorities from Berlin found out about his collection and they immediately took action, seizing his tank and, under pretext that he violated "War Weapons Control Act", putting him to trial that would last for the next few years. Even though he had proof that the tank lost its weapon status, in the end Klaus was forced to either donate or sell it, along with the flak cannon.
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"hey even tho you have paperwork saying its not active and you bought it with your own money and you're almost 80 and haven't had any incidents in the 35+ years you've had it, this is mine now" -German government
Yeah that's extremely kinda lame from them, he should have won the case and kept it
Well they didn’t just took it away, it’s still his property like he says in the video he is just forced to sell it, still rly dumb tho
@@LostFloat they took it before there was even a trial and ended up forcing him to sell it
It seems like the government now still has the same kind of over reach as the old german government that used those panther tanks in the first place
@@HIFLY01 well it’s normal to confiscate dangerous stuff but as I said I also don’t agree with the decision and think he should be allowed to keep it as long as it’s demilitarized (wich it is) and has the proper tracks to drive on the road (if he chooses to again)
And then they broke the suspension, man ima tell you I almost cried, a tank so rare damaged during forced removal
I blame racism
The fucking government ruins everything
They also broke most if the enterrior off the garage
how? suspension doesn't just break. from my knowledge the only damage that occured was tearing of the road wheel rubber as it didn't have its tracks on.
@@jacksont2040 suspension doesn't commonly break. I have first hand experience with many a platform of vehicles with more ground pressure than a panther. meaning more stress on the torsion bars. it takes lack of skill. finesse. and over a foot and a half of being airborne after 3+ years of hard abuse to break a torsion bar. and usually only one sometimes two breaks at a time. and i've personally never seen a support arm break. and roadwheel hubs and hubs in general only break when you do 30+ miles an hour with no oil or in some vehicles cases grease in them for a few hundred miles. then it finally gets hot enough catches fire. if you don't notice or dont do an at halt check and keep driving it will explode and you loose a roadwheel.
As another commenter said, it was in perfect condition until it was stolen from him by the authorities. Then they damaged it. Thanks for protecting us from a guy that preserved a piece of history, I'm sure he was ready to start a war at any moment. Not only having a priceless tank stolen but having to pay the thieves for doing it.
Exactly, the only criminals here were the government. Everyone in that town said he was a great guy with a cool collection
I wonder how many times the rozzers got sued.
Honestly it would have been a major effort to take it out and get it ready for anything. They might believe him a terror threat to society. High society, since they do nothing about a few explosions in low society. The scum districts. Like Ukraine?
From what could be seen on the news footage of the Panther being removed it certainly was museum quality. That is until they damaged it during removal
I didn’t see that in the news, what happened to it?
Government sucks
@@LostFloat Along with essentially tearing the guys basement out they ripped apart some bogie wheels & suspension
@@LostFloat The German army damaged the suspension pulling it out. The cringe thing is that the Panther was in full driving condition. But they just pulled it out with a bergepanzer. German army noobs.
@@MrLeovdmeer they didn't want to scratch up the road by using the steel tracks. Also none of them know how to drive a Panther.
If the stories of him using the tank to clear the roads during winter are true, it makes the collector the coolest neighbor of all time.
It is true
but his neighbors reported him
His neighbors reported him in true German fashion nothing new under the sun
A few note for those future comment readers. The tank was drug out on its road wheels not it's tracks which did damage (road wheels are only meant to contact the tracks) and Panthers are incredibly rare tanks with a number of suspension and transmission issues. I.E. it was removed/handled in the worst way possible to prevent damage to a WW2 antique that had numerous problems when it was new
Its problems were overstated by western historians. There are numerous war time and post war allied intelligence papers and original german documents that proved the panther was quite reliable and probably one of the best tanks of the war. Of course, making such a claim doesnt sell books or make for a snarky gotcha clip on some documentary. The French and a few others used panthers all the way into the 60s and 70s and their experiences were not of unreliable tanks
The guys who thought this was a good idea (to remove a tank prone to damage in the one way it was most likely to be damaged) should be shot. This is a relic of history, and has every right to be treated with dignity and respect.
@@thatcarguydom266 the worst part about it is since it was so well restored to the way the English built it and with only 2 English Panthers left in existence and one isn't wearing the correct paint scheme
I felt my blood boil when tgey dragged that relic out of the basement without its tracks on
@@kethtemplar8989 also important to note the tracks were in the basement with it
Guy has 1 tank, 70 small arms, and 1000 rounds of ammunition.
Average American: Just another Tuesday, eh?
Let’s not bring that highly toxic and ideological stuff here. That’s a dumpster fire waiting to happen.
@@thetankcommander3838 its just a joke
That's be well-armed for a Californian or Connecticut. VERY LIGHTLY ARMED for Texas or Idaho.
😂😂😆
your forgot his Flak 88, a Torpedo, a V-1 Flying bomb i'm sure missed a few things.
Everyone in heikendorf new that he had a Panther in his basement he was a very nice man my father told me he pushed the snow away from the streets
kommst du aus heikendorf?
@@tavish4699 ne komme aus Kiel
Mein Vater hat mir erzählt das ihm früher bei Bootstouren im Gaten des Mannes Broncestaturen aufgefallen seien die er irgendwo schon einmal gesehen hat. Später hat sich rausgestellt das die Figuren Beutekunst waren.
Der Moment wenn du durch ein dir unbekanntes Dorf fährst und ein Panther am Schnee räumen ist 😯😲😀😆
@@kriegshammer2161 die zeit ist leider vorbei, er hat den panzer nie wieder bekommen
I remember hearing about this case on the news, locals told the reporters, that he used the tank to clear roads, so that the people could use them again with thair vihicles.
it sucks that he had to remove most of the stuff, but we gotta understand where the government concerns come from, it IS a tank but they should've made some kind of deal or negotiation to keep the tank, maybe under supervision, etc.
@@quickgamer19l92 From what I heard the guns were deactivated at some point. Really a shame it was confiscated, stuff like this needs to be preserved for future generations.
@@quickgamer19l92 the gun was deactivated and hadn't had a issue in 35+ yrs. Tbh I think we should be able to own tanks to keep the gov in check e.g. kill dozer and before you say that's ridiculous people use to own private warships in the 1800s under the 2nd amendment and still should be able too
@@beesechurgermclovin7199 Why is Evert goverment so scared of people owning a old tank What is he going to Do storm the riechstag
@@quickgamer19l92 It was de armed, basically no more of a threat than a bulldozer is
Leave this guy alone. His collection is amazing. WW2 is over and WW3 is about to begin.
He'll Fight The Russians Like In 1945
@@asu-5748 he push them to moscow
That Panther seems a _little bit_ outdated for an upcoming WW3. Needs a major modernization.
I have leftover Bathrooms tiles at my home, can be used as a composite armor material for the Panther. Also have some old weared down Tires too, can be used as a NERA.
It should be enough to give it the equivalent level of protection capability as... the Bob Semple.
@@moisesezequielgutierrez hahahah, Good
@@moisesezequielgutierrez
Yeah, that's not what I meant lmao
Thanks for your reply, though
I don't get why the government took it , he restored and saved the tank , he should be allowed to keep it
Because he couldnt provide the paperwork and was suspected of selling stolen property (which is why they searched his house) he later provided the paperwork for the tank but eince he got convicted for dealing with stolen property the paperwork was now void since german law restricts the ownership of such things for convicts.... The fact that he had more stuff he had no paperwork for, some of the weapons still in a usable state didnt help his case either, selling the stuff to someone with the proper paperwork was part of a reduced sentence deal.
@@homesteadlegion4419 ah ok , it still seems kinda unfair tho like realistically the panther can't do much
Liberals
@@homesteadlegion4419 cringe
@@oddball_bricks8 the idea to sell it seems to have come from him to avoid problems with the anti air gun he had, because the court found his tank to be properly demilitarized but the air defence gun wasnt.
The money (250k) will go to different organisations (such as the local animal shelter and the university) with 50k going to the state gov to cover the cost of storage.
Also i made an error above, the search was for stolen stuff, the sentence was for illegally owning arms, ammunition and explosives.
Doesnt change anything about the tank but i want to be precise :)
Unfortunately they damaged/destroyed multiple Tortion bars in the process of getting it out of the basement.
lmao you know nothing about breaking a torsion bar i'm just copying and pasting this now to kee people informed (i've broken torsion bars before first hand on vehicles with more ground pressure than a panther. I can tell you first hand it took 3+ years of abuse. and just me taking flight in a 26 ton armored vehicle at 50 mph for a brief moment to break only one. was airborne for about 5 seconds. and probably had close to 3 feet of air.) the only thing that happend was the road wheel rubber got torn up a little due to the nature of armored vehicle recovery. and use of a tow bar also known as a recovery bar in other countries.
@@justnsaliga8518 im pretty sure he didnt ask for a paragraph about something he is stating nor did he claim to know anything about tortion bars
@@justnsaliga8518it’s actually happened tho. They broke mutiple
His collection is every history lovers dream
Seeing this Panther hidden from history for so long, I wonder how many other hidden WW2 tanks, vehicles and history are sealed away from modern society. Some Russian farmer in a small town probably has a Tiger 1 and a couple T-34s hidden in a barn. A Finnish lumberjack probably has a KV tank hidden in the snow. An Italian chef probably has a L3/33 Tankette hidden in the back of his pizza restaurant. The German Police seizing this collector's Panther probably just made finding those other lost pieces of history a whole lot harder.
Yeah and people are right to hide them, as we clearly see with this case. If the government finds them they'll steal them and lock them in some military base where no one will see them.
All for your safety, of course..
L3/33s aren't terribly rare. Neither are T-34s.
*Casually hiding two M4s*
@@FishbedFive *buys plan tickets to Pakistan and kabul*
It wasn't even hidden, locals said he would take it out to clear snow off the road
I feel horrible for that German Man who lost that very impressive and priceless collection. I personally would've been devastated if I even lost my very small collection of WW2 era German artifacts that I have collected, I could only imagine his heartbreak.
This veteran lives his own dream that many wanted to do so. But the government saw it differently, poor grandpa, forced to sell his collections
I bet that hurts, to see such valuable items been taken away from ya, but you know how governments are, they want it all and f*** you. that's where it all comes down to.
I think it's disgusting that a gov did this. Let the guy keep his damn tank
vote against liberal Nazis.... they are always the ones using government to control people's lives
Amen brother. They stole his tank and made him pay for it.
@@jonathonspears7736 Governments do this very sneaky, when they wanna tax something, they start to divide it up into complex bureaucratic schemes that are unreadable for most ppl apart from a lawyer or legal specialists. Its done on purpose, so you are reluctant to go head to head with them, making t as hard as possible for anybody to go against the stream coz it has Fee's and legal fee's and court fee's and you name it, you;d be still a loser in the end even if you won, coz they managed to make you pay in some way or form.
@@jonathonspears7736 Germany moment, want your money but can't even fix the potholes
it wasnt secret at all... everybody in the village knew about the tank.. he even plowed snow with it some years...
The Russian neighbour next door be like: "OYY BLYAT PANTHER TANK! GET ME MY CAPTURED PANZERFAUST!"
Russians can't even take Ukraine tf u r talkin about my fellow Overproud Indonesian?
You mean PTRD
Reminds me of a local guy here in denmark who had a M10 Achilles IIC Tank Destroyer removed last year.... It apparently dissapeared from the army in 1982 when it was decommisioned and used as a training veichle everybody forgot about... He bought it off someone and it had been standing out in the open for more than a decade before the authorities asked questions about the tank in the field :) - I drove past it to work every day
Hvor var det henne ? 😂
The lack of common sense is never to be underestimated when government officials come into play.
I don't disagree but I agree with you in a different way.
While he didn't demill it to German regulations (and thus the confiscation was lawful) the law should allow historically valuable examples to be untutched by these regulations.
German regulations say that the gun needs to be disabled by drilling its barrel, blocking the barrel and disabling the breech permanently.
Also the tank has to be either made demobilized permanently by destroying its engine or drive train (removing tracks doesn't count I have checked)
Or cutting holes in the armor (but you can cover it up with sheet metal.
@@guppiapfeljustleopardthing8756 he did demill it to german regulation....
@@tavish4699 from what I have read the armor was still intact and the engine and transmission were still operational...
@@guppiapfeljustleopardthing8756 Our regulations suck lol
You ain't allowed to do anythinc without either having some license or paying a shitton of money to be left alone by the feds
Wasn’t all that a secret he drove it around before some Karen called the cops
Yea! Fear Karen's
I don't even think it was someone from the village lol
I life 20 Minutes away from this Guy, every Winter when there was to much Snow he Helps Clean the Streets with his Panther, so it was no Secret he got one... Really nice Guy, Broke our Heart when they took it away from Him =(
Unsere Regierung halt,was ist hier schon erlaubt ohne das man Steuern zahlt oder irgendeine Lizenz hat😂
Let grandpa keep his tank. How dare they rip it from him German government doing German government things
The panther was found in a junk yard in the UK. Its a British post war made from parts. shupped to UK and sold for scrap and sold later to the collector.
He should’ve been treated as a hero, for his efforts to preserve such treasures
WOW... I would have NEVER expected to see a Simple History video about my birth village.... I am from Heikendorf near Kiel^^ And as this happend we where all totally confused about the issue... yes he had an old tank... but the media sometimes played it like he had an 100% operational Leopard 2 or Abrahams tank in his garage and would be a danger to anyone.. .. totally crazy!
because the media can't be bothered with the truth when fantasy brings in more viewers/money
Brother, for what he used this tank?
He used the Panther to tow cars stuck in snow storms. It was actually helpful to the community
an ARV panther would of been interesting...
@@davidty2006 i think the germans hat an turretsless panther that was used to tow and transport ammounition
How did he get the tank in the basement in the first place???
I readed with the help of the german army aswell for about 40 years
U-TANK
he drove it down there and they could have driven it out if the police and the military weren't such idiots. the tank was fully functional. he even had all the necessary documents for this, but over the years new officials have come into office and they of course have different opinions wahts leagal now. they stole from him, nothing else I live about 30 km away from there
he literally drove it down there... and partly dissambled it... it wasnt driveable when they removed it.. so they literally dragged it out and damaged it
1st step, open the basement door
2nd step, put in the tank
3rd step, close the door
In my opinion, he should've been able to keep it, his tank isn't a weapon until he treats it like one, such as the killdozer, a bulldozer isn't a weapon until it is treated like one. Should we ban all vehicles that use tracks? This was a machine made in the second world war, he spent a lot of money on restoring it and then waste all that time and money as a killing machine? I doubt it.
Just my two cents about this.
That Panther was built up from spare parts after WW2. It never saw service with the Wehrmacht.
the court found his tank to be properly demilitarized but the air defence gun wasnt. so it seems they opted to sell the collection and splitting the fine into donations for multiple organisations, like the local animal shelter and university and a few others, 1/5 still goes to the gov to cover the cost of storrage and in the end he only got a sentence of 1 year and 2 months probation for a mg barrel and 2 cartridges, 4 months were already considered served do to the time the whole deal took.
I hope i could provide a bit of info for anyone who wanted to know more details :)
Bundeswehr only wanted to steal that tank because they need it lol
They don't have better Tanks lol remember when that one tank burned during that NATO execrise
That Guy is just a Legend! If i would have just known about him earlier, i would gave him a visit, since i was often around Kiel.
Taking the Ammo from him, would be understandable, but taking almost all his stuff?!?! That just showes you the real intention of our modern Governments.
And if it was just some random dude and not someone with a lot of money etc. , we all know what would have happened to him...
btw. the Panther was not a t34 Copie or improvement... it was just "an Answer/Reaction" to the t34.
he fact that he has to sell it to someone els just sounds like pure bullshit. like, he cant keep but literally everyone els can? why?
I wouldn’t even say taking the ammo is justified; they literally took his property with really no cause. Only other than he had it
S_vb because he was dealing with stolen property and lost his right to own the stuff, so it was either sell them or go to jail. (There was also an issue with some of his stuff still being usable which violates the war weapons treaty) so it was not without reason that they took the stuff, he would have gotten it back if he had been found Innocent but as it stands he is now convicted and no longer allowed to own a lot of his collection.
@@homesteadlegion4419 makes sense, thanks for clearing it up!
This Panther is a special one. It' s one of the few post WW2 Panthers Produced under british lead by MNH in Hannover for testing abillities. Another Post WW2 Panther and one post WW2 Jagdpanther are staying in the Bovington Tank Museum at display. That's the Panther you See on the Thumbnail of this Video
So.... YOU cannot be a collector, but somebody they say is a collector can have what you collected?
Sad. Government at its finest.
Its heart breaking to see the man have to sell his collection when he could just start his own museum.
If I ever want to donate a tank to the museum, in return, I want full authority to see and touch the tank because without me, that museum would never have that tank.
I agree,should be a law tbh
I wonder how this is on paper, did he just have to give it, without any kind of restitution or reward...anything?! i mean if this is so, he just got ripped basically, i mean he invested in that a lot i imagine.
@@TheBarretNL nah, the goverment took the money from the sale and let him pay taxes for the money they took from him
Just 3 words, "awsome old man"
Poor guy, that tank was legally bought and de-armed.
It was no longer a threat and they had no reason to take it
If the German government don't know the tank is there, how this man recived a certificate that saying the tank is demilitarized....?
the certificate was old.
Everytime you modify the vehicle (for example new engine etc) you have to recertify it.
He didnt do that.
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 just want to know why didn't they search for this tank, If they have records about it. However, your reply is helpful. Thank you....
@@07Alpha they searched his premises due to suspicion that he was trading stolen state property (some sculptures stolen from a government storehouse in the 80´s) on the blackmarket.
those sculptures and others have been found on other property of him.
if you violate the law your permits and licenses for firearms ownership and other weapons are void.
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 👍👍👍
This man should get a medal for it
You can’t have sh9t in Ohio forget that.
Can’t have sh9t in Germany.
No Weapons, No Drugs, No nice cars, No Collections, No strong Military, No Censor free shows/ video games, …… We need the old guy back.
There are also jokes here in Germany about him. Want some? "At least, one is still ready." "The Bundeswehr could ask him for Amonition. He has twice what the whole Bundeswehr has today." "He had several weapons at home. All looking to the east." "He didnt put guns in his house. He build his house around the weapons." "On new year, we have trouble with a house near Kiel. There is someone that always raiseses a FLAK and shouts out NOW ITS TIME!"
Ich hoffe die 100 milliarden werden für etwas vernünftiges investiert lol
I learned the the Bundeswehr assisted in restoring the engine some years, probably decades, earlier.
Its illegal to have a tank? Even in the UK where guns are also illegal you're allowed to have a tank, even drive it through london on the strets. The US, well that goes without saying.
well, you have to remember why the police searched his premises.
he was under high suspicion of trading stolen state property (art stolen from the state by unknown people) on the blackmarket.
Due to this his premises were searched and during that search they found multiple insecure stored operational firearms like MG42´s but also explosives and heavy weapons wich are illegal in private ownership.
At the time of the search he could not provide the proper paperwork for his arms collections and thus all weapons (including the tank) were confiscated until he could prove that he is allowed to own them.
Also keep in mind, that, when you commit a serious offense in germany, your licenses and permits for ownership of firearms and other tightly controlled dangerous goods will be void.
And trading stolen state property on the black market is such an serious offense.
If you cant be trusted to keep true to the law, why should you own potentially lethal weapons?
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 As if some 80 year old dude would go on a rampage with a MG42 (Finding ammo would be difficult too) and FLAK Is very unlikley lol
@@asu-5748 it's about ownership of military grade weapons. He won't go on a rampage, but ownership is still illegal. Especially as he has/had connections to organised crime and right wing extremists.
The whole thing is a justice scandal
Why did they seize that dudes stuff?????? Id be pissed af!
Well because it’s a tank, not your Rolex watch or cash.
Because government overreach
@Ike Matthews So what? Did the gun work? Was it a treat to anyone? If a museum can have it, why can't he?
@@ikematthews6866 And? Who was he hurting?
@@moteroargentino7944 a place like a museum and someone’s basement aren’t the same thing, just like people shouldn’t be allowed to own automatic weapons because it’s about putting a line somewhere.
Man I thought this was going to be the farmer that towed a broken down one back to the barn and restored it
Panther was not based on the Soviet T34, it was allready in development before the Germans first encountered T34.
i think the best word for it was inspired by design, you can see some few similarities like it's obvious front hull and it's back and maybe it's engine?
Why is he called Bizarre !!! Such Governmental Prejudice !!!!
A petition needs to be started to have everything returned to him.
This is a crying shame ! This man was a passionate collector and should have his own museum ! Took him years, and a lot of blood , sweat and tears to assemble such a grand collection , any collector would be proud of and he is persecuted for saving history !!! 🥴
The Panther had absolutely no relationship at all to the T34
It was the inspiration for the Panther
@@Idahoguy10157 No it wasn't.
In Germany, only _one_ Federal Department is allowed to certify that a tank has been demilitarized and is save for personal ownership. If they did not know it existed and did not certify it was demilitarized, there is no way for it to be legally owned.
Some municipal government has no say in maters of Federal Authority. And weapon ownership most definitely is a Federal Mater.
This "certificate" had about the value of a crayon drawn paper claiming you are "the lord of Winterfel".
Sounds like a tyrannical government, but Germans gonna German I guess.
@@waterloo32594 Not allowed to own operational tanks = tyranny.
So, which non-tyrannical country exists in your world?
Exclude the ones in a civil war.
@@christopherg2347 cop and seethe. Throughout human history, only slaves were forcibly disarmed.
@@waterloo32594 Cute. So everyone disarmed by the police is a slave?
What of you aren't allowed to enter a building armed, slave while inside?
Still.. the horrible removal of the tank.. why doesn't museum who recover the tank?
You should give it another name:
The pensioner which got robbed by the German state and media after saving a ww2 tank in perfect condition
Pretty much this.
Thank you, a thorough account that seems accurate, compared to everything else I've watched. Didn't know you had this channel, too.
Really hope that Panther finds a good home. Running Panthers are very rare
This is to sick for words to treat a collector like this
That's just stupid. No harm, no foul. The guy wasn't hurting anyone.
Bruh the government really had to take his WWII Tank era away from him? That’s so unfair.
Shall not be infringed
The pensioner does not live in the US though, and he didn't keep the tank as a weapon for self-defence, instead he kept it as memorabilia.
@@paleoph6168 shall not be infringed
@@garybreedlove4241 well the 2nd doesn’t apply to tanks, it only applies to certain guns even if he did live in the us.
@@ikematthews6866 shall not be infringed
@@ikematthews6866 shall not be infringed
“How dare you *checks notes* store these things in your house! We must remove these and just store them ourselves”
It was an 80 year old man, who had multiple tons of ordinance in his Home in a Residential area. It's better of in a Bundeswehr facility.
@@harmdallmeyer6449 So ? He had paperwork to support what he had. Even more so, they destroyed the suspension of the tank when forcefully removing it- from an 80 year olds house.
So they approved it. Changed their mind. Took it. Broke it. And that’s okay to you?
@@flailingelbows7073 No, He didn't. You can't have paperwork for machine guns, torpedos or Flak guns, as they are completely forbidden under the Kriegswaffenkontrollgesetz or war weapon Control law. These are the Things that were confiscated and wich were the Main subject of the court Case, Not the Tank.
@@harmdallmeyer6449 Yet in the subject of the court case he was only fined for having two pieces of live munitions and that the Anti Aircraft Mounted MG on top was not properly demilitarized. So… If the main subject WAS the demilled MGs and all the other collectibles.
Why did they take and ruin the tank.
@@flailingelbows7073 the MGs weren't demilitarized, that was the Point.
The defence and state agreed to sell the Tank and other weapons to get a better Deal for the accused. This is taken from the German newspaper "der Stern", who wrote the Most recent articles in the Matter.
That's horrible of the German government. The man was a law abiding citizen enjoying his hobby, he wasn't hurting anyone.
He should have opened a museum his self and since he is a real collector, live him alone!
I followed this story as it happened, and the outcome still pisses me off
Oh yeah I remember that seeing on local television (I from Germany) and I just marveld the shape on which these weapons were when the army put them on their trailers .
He also had two Torpedos in his house. It was in the Newspaper everywhere in germany. When i saw a picture of the Torpedos, i thought this isnt real. But it was!!! and The Tank was in perfect condition, like new from outside. Unbelievable
Why would this man, who is a collector, be ordered to sell his tank to a museum or "other collector". That makes no sense. Did they expect an 84 year old man to declare war and invade some place?
Because he is no longer allowed to own it because it turned out he did do what the gov thought he did, sell stolen property on the blackmarket so he lost the right to own his weapons but everything he had paperwork for is still legally his so selling it is the only thing he can legally do with it, or he doesnt but that would mean he now owns weapons illegally which would get him another criminal charge...
The last sentence was so teuer lol
It's a shame how stubborn governments are about the littlest if things. An 80+ year old man is not gonna roll out a tank and make his own killdozer. Nor was his vehicles were of any threat to his neighbours.
It about money and taxes
No burocrat must have the right to prohibit any citizen from having a vehicle in a safe storage in his her own house. A tank itself it is not a gun.
Well no because people don’t have a “right” to own a tank and this is something only the state should have.
@Ike Matthews Why? That just sounds like tyranny. I'm all for placing requirements and conditions over ownership of sensitive things, but if a safe standard is reached, you should be able to own whatever you want.
@@moteroargentino7944 “I can’t own a tank so therefore I’m being oppressed” lmao you have no clue what “tyranny” is, it’s not about doing whatever you want. You can’t own weapons over even if you meet “safety standard” which is ironic because it’s still a tank and can run over and damage things.
@@moteroargentino7944 are you OK in the head? A tank without a canon is still tons of steel that can crush or plow through a house. There's tyranny then there's keeping the masses safe because someone wants to own a tank and the government doesn't know if they're sane or just waiting to snap. You must either be very young or you're older but just empty minded
@@ikematthews6866 a fellow sane person! Good to see you here!
These people are evil, why can't he keep his stuff. He paided for it, he built it, he proplery stored, you had no right to break into his house and steal his stuff and claim he can't keep it.
So he's a collector himself but they ordered him to sell his collection to other collectors . How is that normal.
He used to plough the streets and sidewalks with his tank, all his neighbors knew about his collection
Of course the authorities moved towards his home to steal from him. Then they absolutely wrecked the Panther when removing it. Disgusting.
What do you await from the German goverment
To me it doesnt matter if came to late in the war to Turn the Tide.
What matters,its the fact they were built and some survived until this day and age,for nerds like me abaut WW2 ,can see today the most Beautiful and Graceful tank Ever built.
The Panther. A truely Awesome and Amazing machine.
And Very,very Deadly also. But thats another storie.
He's a collector..let the man be..he put the money into it..a rare collection it is.
Typical of any government. Go in and take what they want and figure out a way to make you pay for them to haul it away. The video said he had "over a thousand rounds of ammunition". Most of us shooting enthusiasts keep ten times that at any given point. They should've just left the old fella alone, he wasnt hurting anyone and if he was going to, he would've done it a long time ago.
He also had two bronze lions from the front of the Reichstag.
And he had your wife from behind
It's still in military storage rusting away good!
just a rich old gentleman injoy his collection.
German Gov: STOP! WE WILL TAKE THIS FROM YOU.
The history of tanks in Germany has been strong in their past since then...
Man:Buys tank as his coletion.
Court:You either sell it,give it to a museum or you give it to another guy who is also a collector.
Yeah nice going court.
Hey can you remake the Desmond Dos one?
TENNO HEIKA BANZAI!
Imagine robbing an old timer only to face a literal tank 💀
When I read the title of this video, I thought it would be about a different story I heard a long time ago. In that story, the tank fell into the basement of a house and for some reason, got stuck and was abandoned. The rest of the house collapsed on top of it. The owner of the house, after the war, rebuilt his house on top of the tank and it was mostly forgotten about until the man died and the new owners of the house discovered it. Don't know if that's a true story or not.
I could imagine that guy with the Panther tank and other weapons in his basement being my grandfather when I was a kid and begging my parents every week end, Let's go visit Grand Pa !
So they stole his collection then fined him for it. Wtf Germany
I think the reason we haven’t heard abt the Panther since is probably because they had to restores the damn road wheels, and you know how that goes…
Dang this made me sad to see all that equipment and the tank gone hopefully all that stuff is going to be in a museum and have proper care of the items.
This is just NOT fair. The Tank wasnt able to shoot and Something SimpleHistory forgot. At the Snowcatastrophe the Panther wasnt Just driving. The older man was HELPING the locals. Pulling stuck Cars and Trucks. Clearing some streets of snow.
Yo, those neighbors knew the game, they weren't snitches
9 hours to load a tank on a flat bed ….. I wonder if they tried starting it first …. Lol.
Incredible story! Brave dude! a true patriot!
He didn't hide it. The whole village knew he had it and it was part of his private collection.
His neighbors said he often helped them when they felled trees and when the road was slippy in Winter.
I turn on subtitles and in 0:46 it say"penza comfort wagon"💀💀💀
eternal sleep is pretty comfy
@@tiger-tn6gx problem is you cant wake up until judgement day💀💀💀
I like panzerkampfwagen series
So he didn't have any stolen artwork? They should have let his museum alone. Perhaps they owe him for all of his efforts to be a curator of history.
If I would be the old gentleman. I would open my own museum and donate my stuff to my museum. With the entry fees he should get back the 250.000 € at some point if not more. Interesting enough as well. He could keep the V-1 Rocket but the Torpedo he also had to give away.
The man should have gotten the tank
I read:
" In a PRISONERS basement"
😄