IS-6 - The Complete History

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  • Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
  • In the midst of the Second World War, the Soviet Union were cranking out hundreds of brand new IS-2 heavy tanks. However this vehicle had flaws, and work was underway on a replacement. Or, to be more precise, 3 of them. The IS-6 was the most ambitious, the most expensive, and the most secretive of this trio. But what happened to it? Why were hundreds of brand new, invulnerable IS-6 tanks not cruising into Berlin in 1945? This is the torrid tale of the Soviet Union's Forgotten Heavy Tank.
    SOURCES:
    "IS-2 Heavy Tank 1944-73"- Steven Zaloga
    "Heavy Tank IS-2: Our Answer To Tigers", "IS-3, The Last Tank Of WW2" - Mikhail Baryatinsky
    "Stalin's Supertanks: IS-7 And Others" - Maxim Kolomiets
    "Wrong Place, Wrong Time", "Comrade Vovk and the Chamber of Secrets" - Tank Archives
    "Object 252 Improved, ‘Object 252U’" - Tank Encyclopedia
    DISCORD: / discord
    PATREON: / redwrenchfilms
    Thanks to Akagi:
    @AkagiIJN
    Chapters:
    00:00 Intro
    01:07 The Failed Precursors
    03:20 An Insane Specification
    04:10 Competition!
    05:30 Armour
    06:56 Suspension
    08:20 Engine
    08:40 Turret & Gun
    09:26 The Obj. 252 Disaster
    10:30 Obj. 252U and Cancellation
    11:20 Obj. 253 - The Electronic Tank
    13:53 Obj. 257/260
    14:12 Outro
    All content is presented in historical context for educational purposes. All footage is owned by its copyright holder and is used in this channel under "fair use".
    Music by Epidemic Sound
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  • @fapulousboy3228
    @fapulousboy3228 10 месяцев назад +567

    the mad lads at factory 100 just designing and building a new prototype, instead of upgrades for the IS-2. Quite interesting and fascinating story as the other videos in this heavy soviet armour series.

    • @Decicamo
      @Decicamo 10 месяцев назад +52

      Lots of soviet construction bureaus were working on some crazy and bizarre projects just by themselves without any hire up orders

    • @spolachs1251
      @spolachs1251 10 месяцев назад +36

      In the cliché soviet union they would be shot for wasting government property. Luckily this was most of the time a cliché and not reality.

    • @aymonfoxc1442
      @aymonfoxc1442 10 месяцев назад +11

      Remember, these tanks were being developed during the height of WW2, so money and resource constraints weren't an issue (unless something was literally in short supply). It was also reasonable to assume tanks would continue to grow more powerful as the war progressed and after it had concluded. Stalin had his eye on Europe and tanks would be key to his efforts to seize control of as much of it as possible (both during the war as it unfolded and any potential continuation of the war against the other Allies or shortly after the war ended). So, the USSR invested heavily in developing new taks.
      It would also be beneficial in light of the above if the other Allies weren't familiar with the USSR's best tanks and one way to maximise this was to produce new tank models. Of course, as the new normal became more entrenched, and after Stalin died, tank development (particularly of new tank models) in the USSR slowed down and the Western world followed suit, as the US and the UK had already made many attempts to avoid developing new tank types. The problem up to that point was the intensity of the arms race, for which each side kept on creating new models in response to each others' developments. The Soviets were, for example, determined to have the biggest main gun and most heavily armoured heavy tank.
      Every time Western countries introduced a larger main gun calibre, Soviet bureacrats hurried to introduce a larger one (as in the case of the T-62 and T-64). Western countries sought to abandon heavy tanks during Stalin's time (particularly in light of ATGM development and to produce budget savings) but as the USSR kept introducing heavier tanks, the need for new heavies was undeniable and the product (M60 and Chieftain) also fed into the USSR's ongoing development of new heavy tanks - both during Stalin's reign and later. It also was used to justufy the adoption of even bigger main guns on MBTs.

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 10 месяцев назад +4

      I can't believe I got this involved in the development there.

    • @kevin5073
      @kevin5073 10 месяцев назад +8

      @@spolachs1251 Agreed. Soviet/Russia have been real innovators in armoured vehicles over the decades.

  • @larryfoulke1596
    @larryfoulke1596 10 месяцев назад +240

    I love how Soviet Heavy tank almost have the same weight as German Medium tank

    • @cosmoray9750
      @cosmoray9750 10 месяцев назад

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    • @LAHFaust
      @LAHFaust 10 месяцев назад +52

      It's due to differences in idea of what constitutes a light, medium, and heavy tank.
      The Germans equates role to class. A light scouts and supports infantry. A medium fights other tanks and supports infantry. A heavy breaks the enemy line so the other two can exploit the gap.
      Soviets and US used weight and gun to determine class of tank.

    • @Strelnikov403
      @Strelnikov403 10 месяцев назад +53

      ​@@LAHFaust The Soviets never used the term "medium tank" - they used "breakthrough tank" for their heavy tanks, "fast tank" or "support tank" for their light tanks, and just "tank" for everything else. Their classification system was significantly more nebulous and less rigidly-defined than most western contemporaries.

    • @EdyAlbertoMSGT3
      @EdyAlbertoMSGT3 10 месяцев назад

      @@LAHFaust But then what about the cancelled KV-13? Didn't that get called a Heavy despite weighting 30 tons?

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 10 месяцев назад +15

      Soviet tanks are very low while the Panther is a very tall tank. Low silhouettes keep weight down considerably.

  • @PanzerHistorian
    @PanzerHistorian 10 месяцев назад +140

    IS-6 in real life: Who am i? …
    IS-6 In WOT/WT: DEATH FEAR’S ME

    • @revan22
      @revan22 10 месяцев назад +6

      HEATFS shells:

    • @mouth7137
      @mouth7137 10 месяцев назад +12

      Is6 in wot is pretty meh due to ap shells deducting 5 degrees of sloping.

    • @kanava6983
      @kanava6983 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@mouth7137its okay but the gun is nowdays really lacking

    • @gunchbandit4422
      @gunchbandit4422 10 месяцев назад +4

      IS6 in WoT is garbage

    • @kanava6983
      @kanava6983 10 месяцев назад

      @@gunchbandit4422 i manage to play well in it so not so bad imo just not very competive anymore

  • @Smoking_Lupo
    @Smoking_Lupo 10 месяцев назад +127

    Every war thunder player is feared of IS-6 bias

    • @IronSink
      @IronSink 10 месяцев назад +16

      I still remember first meeting it
      Was driving an AVRE
      Can't deacribe the dumsterfire of a brain i had when i realised out of 4 shots he took he sustaned no damage. Then hebjust shook his barell in disapproval and one tapped me

    • @Tbal_96
      @Tbal_96 10 месяцев назад +9

      *Russian Bias*

    • @sashingopaul3111
      @sashingopaul3111 10 месяцев назад +6

      and they’ve just started spawning like flies thanks to the summer sale with the IS6 and the Obj. 120

    • @superburrito9797
      @superburrito9797 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@sashingopaul3111 as a france main, I'm greatful for the AML-90 at 7.0 BR. That Heatfs comes in clutch and is great for hunting IS6s. 320mm of 💥

    • @airnote3266
      @airnote3266 10 месяцев назад +1

      Ngl facing a IS 6 in tigers and panthers was scary but after getting Leopard 1 cutting through armor was never a problem

  • @BugattiONE666
    @BugattiONE666 10 месяцев назад +110

    I allways thought the IS-6 was the prototype IS-7, and the IS-5 was the prototype IS-8 (T-10)

    • @w0lfgm
      @w0lfgm 10 месяцев назад +6

      Lol, I did consider 252 U as a testbed to develop components to 260.

    • @BugattiONE666
      @BugattiONE666 10 месяцев назад

      @@w0lfgm world of tanks has corrupted us all

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 10 месяцев назад +6

      A Russian prototype is an Object is a key takeaway from this series I guess.

    • @w0lfgm
      @w0lfgm 10 месяцев назад +8

      @@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Yes, Object is a codename for the Soviet/Russian prototypes.

    • @westernspygaming2263
      @westernspygaming2263 10 месяцев назад +10

      The IS-5 is actually the T-10A which is an early model of the T-10M

  • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
    @imnotusingmyrealname4566 10 месяцев назад +124

    These are perhaps the best tank documentaries on RUclips. This is excellent delivery of knowledge and I'd say this and the Chieftain's hatch series play an important role in being Secondary and tertiary sources.

    • @Strelnikov403
      @Strelnikov403 10 месяцев назад +6

      The Inside the Hatch series are by definition primary sources - he's literally filming the tank itself, how much more reliable can you get? What do you want, a .pdf of the blueprints or something?

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 10 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@Strelnikov403like every single piece of paper that tank designers scribbled on

  • @jfv2312
    @jfv2312 10 месяцев назад +31

    I remember when they introduced the IS-6 in War Thunder and the community was (rightly) mad because it was so OP, some guy tried to convince me it was a fake vehicle and all the photos of it were edited from IS-2 and 3

  • @DanteTheAbyssalBeing
    @DanteTheAbyssalBeing 10 месяцев назад +19

    I just love the thought of these old dudes locked in their secret room feverishly brain storming ideas for their secret tank, while telling anyone who knocked on the door to piss off.

  • @mahadewacatra3641
    @mahadewacatra3641 10 месяцев назад +37

    I'm curious about tank armor history, like composite armor, tank skirt, rha steel armor, hha steel armor

    • @Strelnikov403
      @Strelnikov403 10 месяцев назад +4

      The Tank Museum channel has a fairly decent video about this. Leaves a lot of gaps, but covers the basics pretty well.

  • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
    @imnotusingmyrealname4566 10 месяцев назад +45

    This series is taking turns I couldn't have imagined. Like it's actually blowing my mind with how these Soviet tank programs developed and the conflicting naming.

    • @volteer1332
      @volteer1332 8 месяцев назад +2

      I was actually looking up a numerical list of objekt names and they're pretty crazy.

  • @leemarcus6123
    @leemarcus6123 10 месяцев назад +140

    You should've mentioned that the IS-2U design was used by WG to create the fictitious Chinese 110 heavy tank in world of tanks(Stock configuration, the top turret is taken from the IS-8/T-10)

    • @Brigadium75
      @Brigadium75 10 месяцев назад +5

      They really think they will get away with putting IS-3 type turrets on an IS-2 😂

    • @yoshineitor
      @yoshineitor 10 месяцев назад +3

      The 701 really looks like the 112-2 too.

    • @leemarcus6123
      @leemarcus6123 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@yoshineitor well the 112-2 from blitz is the kirovets-1(obj 701-1/ IS-3 early prototype) from pc recolored to chinese color
      As for the obj 701-II dual barrel tank from pc, that simply used the Kirovets-1 hull, widen the turret to fit two guns and call it a day

    • @interpl6089
      @interpl6089 10 месяцев назад +1

      And who cares about that? Exactly, nobody. WoT is a trash game.

    • @TinyBearTim
      @TinyBearTim 6 месяцев назад +2

      Gaijin won’t let us have fun stuff meanwhile war gaming is doing this bs

  • @HOTSHTMAN53
    @HOTSHTMAN53 6 месяцев назад +4

    Imagine hiring staff to do upgrades for a product, only to realize that in secret they’ve been developing an entirely new product, and its way better than the original product💀

  • @Cone_was_here
    @Cone_was_here 10 месяцев назад +33

    Is-6 is a really good looking tank,one of the best looking tanks ever

    • @mattbowden4996
      @mattbowden4996 10 месяцев назад +2

      Shame it didn't work...

    • @Cone_was_here
      @Cone_was_here 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@mattbowden4996 yea it is a shame that they scraped the tank

  • @DanielWW2
    @DanielWW2 10 месяцев назад +42

    Its such a typical Soviet tank. Lots of clever ideas, out of the box thinking and engineering and a good bit of political subterfuge surrounding the design proces.
    And the result looks amazing with the heavy armour, powerful engine and large gun, until you look at the details. So often upon closer examination, Soviet tanks suffer from clear design issues with:
    -Basic crew comfort.
    -Poor gearbox and steering systems.
    -Suspension quality, either weight capacity or poor stability of the suspension.
    -Engine issues, in part because so, so many Soviet tanks relied on variants of the Kharkiv V-2 instead of more dedicated engines designed for the vehicles. To a degree if the V-2 was too large or not powerful enough, the tank design is in trouble.
    -View outside of the tank for the crew often being poor.
    -Lacking hatches in size, design and numbers, both for crew and maintenance.
    -Emphasis on too large a gun for the turret, complicating ammo stowage and compromising loading and space in the turret.
    The combination of (some) of these factors, almost always seems to have negatively affected the overal design.

    • @mattbowden4996
      @mattbowden4996 10 месяцев назад +6

      Agreed. It always amuses me how, on the one hand, we are told that when comparing Western Allied tanks the German tanks to forget about the Panzers's impressive numbers because it's the soft stats that matter - crew comfort, ergonomics, turret traverse and rate of fire and that's why western tanks were better. However the Soviet Tankies take the exact opposite track. Who cares about the soft stats? Look how thick and sloped my armour is! Look at the size of my gun! Please overlook the fact that these wonder tanks could barely be operated by their crews at all and were destroyed in quite significant numbers despite the numbers saying it was theoretically impossible. I suspect the exact same problems were the death of the IS-7 - looked great on paper, could only be operated by a dwarf with the strength of Hercules.

    • @TheShadowOfZama
      @TheShadowOfZama 10 месяцев назад +16

      @@mattbowden4996 No, the IS-7 was basically as close to the perfect tank as you could get. It was years if not decades ahead of its peers (featuring an auto loader, having armour that made it immune even to the Jagdpanzer, having a 130 mm gun, good speed...) and was unlike many other Soviet tanks a very pleasant tank to drive apparently. It got good reviews across the board. The thing that killed the IS-7 was that it was very expensive to produce (most of the important parts were tailor made so they couldn't just use the same stuff they were using for the other IS types to reduce costs) and was too heavy to be transported by rail nor could it cross most bridges in the Soviet Union as a result. It was essentially the sort of tank you'd get when costs and weight limitations were not really something the engineers had to take into account and they were just told to make the best tank they possibly could.

    • @mattbowden4996
      @mattbowden4996 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@TheShadowOfZama If you believe that I have a bridge in London to sell you.

    • @KuK137
      @KuK137 10 месяцев назад +11

      I am strangely sure crews would prefer armor twice as thick as opposed to comfort. Also, the whole whining about tanks being cramped is stupid, Soviet army deliberately picked shorter soldiers for tank crews unlike the west (taller being sent to paratroopers and specnaz) so the amount of room was pretty adequate, yes, it's tight for modern tall man but it absolutely wasn't the case when the tanks were being deployed. And too big gun? Seriously? Get a clue and look at what they had to fight, would you prefer smaller gun that can do nothing to Tiger II or Ferdinand making the tank completely ineffective and waste of money?

    • @mattbowden4996
      @mattbowden4996 10 месяцев назад +8

      @KuK137 Dude, it's not us in the west saying the IS-6 was too cramped - the Soviets said it was too cramped. All the armour in the world is useless if you physically can't fit inside the tank.
      As for the rest of their cold war tanks, how well have their design philosophies worked out in practice? The IS-3 was an abject failure in service and the T-72 and it's derivatives aren't exactly covering themselves in glory out in Ukraine...

  • @JohnSmith-se9yl
    @JohnSmith-se9yl 10 месяцев назад +7

    Excellent work as always! It's a real pleasure to watch your presentations. I'm always amazed at the footage, documents and other obscure facts you ferret out.
    Keep up the fantastic work...
    Thanks again 👍

  • @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
    @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 10 месяцев назад +5

    In short...considering everything about the IS-6, with all it's quirks and features...it just wasn't going to happen, because it had too many faults. Which is why they just stuck with the IS-3 which eventually lead to the T-10 Lenin?
    Of course, heavies became bleh, and the MBT concept took over with the T-54 and T-64, and all of their later variants and upgrades. (T-55, T-62, T-72, T-80, T-90, and perhaps the best of all time, the T-1000, which is made of liquid metal and can assume any form.)

  • @veselindimov307
    @veselindimov307 10 месяцев назад +6

    Thank you for the amazing IS-6 video, sir! Couldn't wink for 15 minutes, didnt want to miss any of it - a lot of messy information, presented in a very clear and understandable manner! Wonderful vid!

  • @maximhyland5843
    @maximhyland5843 10 месяцев назад +23

    They were certainly smoking something in that room when they were designing the IS 7, that's for sure.

    • @theonlymann1485
      @theonlymann1485 10 месяцев назад +13

      "hey comrade lets mount 7 machine guns onto this tank ya"

    • @PanzerHistorian
      @PanzerHistorian 10 месяцев назад +12

      i mean … the IS-7 Wasn’t a bad tank, far from it, it was (by it’s time) the most advanced tank at the time! and it was reliable, but VERY complex and too costly to maintain, so it was unfortenately not approved for service and was shafted, with (if im not mistaken) one prototype still remaining in kubinka!

    • @maximhyland5843
      @maximhyland5843 10 месяцев назад +1

      @PanzerHistorian I mean that's true, it's just that it's so crazy of a design.

    • @masonicrat
      @masonicrat 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@PanzerHistorian The DESIGN of the IS7 was the most advanced tank in the world at the time. Its a question of whether you place more value on what a design bureau says their design could do or what they actual built can do.
      Unfortunately, Russia doesn't like to release reports of failed prototypes and all we know is that of 7 prototypes, only one survived testing and the vehicle was not accepted into service. To this day, we still don't know the "official" reason as to why is was never accepted, the reports were buried. We have no idea if the auto loader worked, we know the automatic fire extinguisher system didn't work because we know its automotive components were not sufficient and burned. The only thing we do know is that the IS8/T10 WAS accepted because it was a much less ambitious IS7.
      The Chrysler TV-8 "Nuclear Tank" was an indisputably more advanced design than the IS-7 only 4 years later, but no one looks at what Chrysler promised and claims it would have a dreadnought effect on par with what the IS7 would allegedly have had.
      I guess what I'm saying is that don't look at what a video game says a vehicle can do because that's an ideal situation where everything works as it should.

    • @jellevandervelde704
      @jellevandervelde704 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@masonicratit was either the cost or the weight that did the IS-7 in, or a combination of both.
      Might have been something else, but those problems would have been easier to solve.

  • @Aettaro
    @Aettaro 10 месяцев назад +3

    The idea of someone writing letters to command going: 'they're back in their blasted rooms again!' Is admittedly rather comical.

  • @craigfitzpatrick4810
    @craigfitzpatrick4810 10 месяцев назад +3

    Have missed your weekly videos. Thanks for this.

  • @mrgarland5210
    @mrgarland5210 10 месяцев назад

    Bringing out some bangers lately mate. Good job keep going!

  • @valmet908
    @valmet908 10 месяцев назад

    Amazing videos. Please keep making these!

  • @ravenclaw8975
    @ravenclaw8975 9 месяцев назад

    Another great video from Red Wrench Films! Please keep them coming and thanks!

  • @yi_hou3092
    @yi_hou3092 10 месяцев назад +43

    I'm more curious on the IS-8/9/10 aka the T-10 as it seemed to take a lot of queues from the IS-3 and adding more modern (for the time) equipment on it

    • @Supernionra
      @Supernionra 10 месяцев назад +3

      The IS-5 was designed to be a replacement of the IS-4, mostly to decrease weight and increase engine/transmission reliability.

    • @Strelnikov403
      @Strelnikov403 10 месяцев назад +10

      Cues*
      A queue is a line, a cue is a signal

    • @granddukeofmecklenburg
      @granddukeofmecklenburg 10 месяцев назад

      Also the T-10 was the only Soviet post IS-3 heavy to actually see relevant production and service

    • @worldoftancraft
      @worldoftancraft 10 месяцев назад

      And the advanced suspension from IS-7

    • @AlexeySuVa
      @AlexeySuVa 9 месяцев назад

      IS-5 (IS-8, T-10) - is a lightweight and simplified version of IS-7. IS-7 and IS-4 were competitors in the same competition in which IS-7 almost won.
      IS-8 corps is exactly the same as the IS-7, only with thinner armor - even the hatches on the roof of the engine compartment

  • @DIREWOLFx75
    @DIREWOLFx75 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great information, thank you!

  • @mateopandolfo2375
    @mateopandolfo2375 8 месяцев назад

    wonderful video man!

  • @tongqualin
    @tongqualin 10 месяцев назад +6

    tks for proof that WoT Kirovets-1 is actually a real prototype, not a made up version of the IS-3 like many WoT RUclipsr stated

    • @solace6633
      @solace6633 10 месяцев назад +5

      It's always been a very real tank. The WOT Community are always just looking for a reason to shit on WG, even while driving others away from the game

  • @kotenara10
    @kotenara10 10 месяцев назад +8

    I wonder why the Soviet kept choosing IS-4M instead of this "IS-6"

  • @JimWarford1
    @JimWarford1 24 дня назад +1

    Very interesting...good work! I've always been interested in the lesser-known Soviet armored vehicles like (my favorite), the SU-122-54. Keep up the good work!

  • @MightBeAGrimbly
    @MightBeAGrimbly 10 месяцев назад +2

    Really good video !

  • @Old_8_gauge
    @Old_8_gauge 9 месяцев назад

    Good info, good channel. Thanks

  • @yoshineitor
    @yoshineitor 10 месяцев назад +2

    Gotta love low weegee and sources made it look as if they had consequencial designs yet at the same time it was multiple factories competing to see wich Obyect would become the next main tank

  • @vikimeciar7865
    @vikimeciar7865 9 месяцев назад +1

    i known about much of its history before but still a good video

  • @JasonChen69420
    @JasonChen69420 10 месяцев назад

    I love your contents keep it up!

  • @badhippo
    @badhippo 10 месяцев назад +1

    Fascinating presentation.

  • @raymondmanchester0624
    @raymondmanchester0624 10 месяцев назад +16

    I always imagine is-6 to be a heavier version of the t-34... Maybe it's the armour profile that makes me think of that. Anyways.... Great vid

    • @EdyAlbertoMSGT3
      @EdyAlbertoMSGT3 10 месяцев назад +7

      For me it looks like they squashed an IS-2

  • @thesheriffmt
    @thesheriffmt 10 месяцев назад +3

    After I read the Tank Encyclopedia article on the Obj 252 a few months ago, I couldn't believe that the developers didn't get sent to the fricken Gulag for working on it without permission.

    • @worldoftancraft
      @worldoftancraft 10 месяцев назад +6

      If what you say isn't sarcasm, then you are certainly thinking with own's head and are free from cliché and fox news

  • @franklinclinton4539
    @franklinclinton4539 10 месяцев назад +2

    "No time for tango girlfriend, a random gentleman just uploaded a video about metal boxes with guns"

  • @kevinpashaj9220
    @kevinpashaj9220 9 месяцев назад

    I recently discovered your channel and I really love your videos, when you are done with the soviet tank do you mind talking about the t95e1 and variants?

  • @momo-chan366
    @momo-chan366 10 месяцев назад +2

    Could you do a video on The Panzer III or the Mirage series of Aircraft both of these are underrated under looked.

  • @DuneRunnerEnterprises
    @DuneRunnerEnterprises 10 месяцев назад +4

    O!!!
    I actually DO have a "Object 252u".
    Together with IS-6,had no idea, that them are the same!!!😂😂

    • @danieltan7344
      @danieltan7344 10 месяцев назад

      Me too, but it's understandable in my opinion, their armor layout differed quite a lot to the point we would think it's a different vehicle, as I would always say that IS-6 is a downgraded IS-4, while Obj. 252U is downgraded IS-7 in the past

  • @airportreview913
    @airportreview913 10 месяцев назад +4

    I just loves these videos even my dad loves these videos

  • @JIMIIXTLAN
    @JIMIIXTLAN 10 месяцев назад +1

    How about a video about the Sherman M4A4 or should I say the British designation MK V and Firefly, this variant of Sherman saw significant combat in Italy and Normandy with British and Canadian armor divisions

  • @kden9772
    @kden9772 10 месяцев назад +4

    Please make a video on the Obj 277. It’s truly the apex of the Soviet mobile heavy tank and packed the mighty 130mm M65 gun.

    • @Frikciya
      @Frikciya 3 месяца назад

      Not really, Obj. 770 was even more brutal and way closer to enter production.

    • @kden9772
      @kden9772 3 месяца назад

      @@Frikciya I’ve only looked at surface level but they look functionally identical (same gun, engine, armor) what makes the 770 better than the 277?

    • @Frikciya
      @Frikciya 3 месяца назад

      @@kden9772 Well, the main difference is that 770 was built on absolutely new technologies and construction decisions, thus meant to have bigger modernization potential. Despite the fact, that 277 had slightly better characteristics ( 35 rounds against 28, a bit more powerful traditional-type engine, utilization of TPN-1 and etc.), except worse armour, MOD prefered 770. While 277 was heavily based on T-10 & IS 7 decisions, 770 used brand new, raw "future" techs. This exactly was admired by both constructors and members of MOD.
      770 was ment to be the next generation, however just like with 277 later Khrushchev refused.
      P.S. Don't you know by chance if Wrench stopped the Soviet Heavies series? It's bin a long time since this came out.

  • @SchlueterMan
    @SchlueterMan 10 месяцев назад +21

    Fun tank in war thunder for sure, despite it being a little power crept and absurdly weak to HEAT compared to some other heavies in the same rank. Can't wait for more from the Soviet Tank series on this channel

    • @AndreDiasRJ
      @AndreDiasRJ 10 месяцев назад +5

      Not so weak. It can take side skirt shots and survive

    • @wallachia4797
      @wallachia4797 10 месяцев назад +10

      You're kidding, right?
      The IS-6 in War Thunder is a light tank with the armor of a heavy and armament of a TD.
      It's in no way powercrept, unless your ideal state for the vehicle is being completely immune to anything in its BR bracket, as it was a couple years ago.
      Even at the current BR it sits, many vehicles can't even pen it from the side, with the only "option" being the rear of the turret.

    • @jozefdobrovodsky2932
      @jozefdobrovodsky2932 10 месяцев назад +1

      half the vehicles it meets can't pen it anywhere, the other half can pen it everywhere.
      that seems fair enough to me, especially since the IS-6 can one tap absolutely everything it sees

    • @SchlueterMan
      @SchlueterMan 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@wallachia4797 "as it was a couple years ago" implies it was powercrept. I dominate IS-6s almost all the time nowadays with how radically the meta has shifted. never gonna say it's a bad tank because it never will be but even you basically admitted it's not the absolute smackaroo of a powerhouse as it used to be

    • @SchlueterMan
      @SchlueterMan 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@jozefdobrovodsky2932 idk as I just mentioned I more often that not see IS-6s bite the dust. to me it seems a little on the short straw especially since it's in the tier where you'll see straight checks to it being all of the IFVs rather than the vehicles that you could have a fun brawl with

  • @THB1945
    @THB1945 10 месяцев назад +1

    THE MAN IS BACK ! ! !

  • @richardcreasey9319
    @richardcreasey9319 10 месяцев назад +2

    Ahh, the Bias-6. To this day it remains as one of the most under-BR'ed tanks in the entire game. If you don't have good angle penning APDS or HEAT-FS it has almost no frontal weakspots outside of the dice-roll that is the mantlet.

  • @tsardean7438
    @tsardean7438 10 месяцев назад

    It’s such a nice looking vehicle
    I just like looking at it

  • @f-104C_starfighter
    @f-104C_starfighter 10 месяцев назад

    Hey red, i got a tank for ya to look at. Well experimentals, the M1 CATTB and the other M1 with the 140mm. Both in the 90s so there won't be much to off of, but i would still like to see anything about it

  • @theonlymann1485
    @theonlymann1485 10 месяцев назад +13

    didnt know the IS-6 was the predecessor to the IS-7, always assumed it was a stupidly bulked up version of the IS-3 that obviously was too heavy for it's stuff and was eventually rolled backed to being an T-10. neat to see the "Pike Nose" layout wernt just limited to the IS-3 family. can i ask about the Obj 703(mounting the fabricated twin gun in wot pc)'s existance? the hull, to be exact- seems like it's the same as the IS-3 prototype(obj.701-1)'s flat upper glasis, and i dont think they'd really separate the testing numbers if all else was the same. turret and the gun was obviously fake so no questions there.

    • @thespyfromteamfortress2568
      @thespyfromteamfortress2568 10 месяцев назад +6

      Obj. 703 is the object name for the final IS-3 design, Wargaming just took the Kirovets-1 Widened it a bit and slapped on a second gun, named it the Obj. 703-II

    • @theonlymann1485
      @theonlymann1485 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@thespyfromteamfortress2568 thanks, was confused on the name here. obviously 2 gun is just totally fabricated, but didnt know proper about the obj-703.

    • @viktoriyaserebryakov2755
      @viktoriyaserebryakov2755 10 месяцев назад

      IS-6 is lighter than IS-3 by a significant margin.

  • @isu-152.4
    @isu-152.4 10 месяцев назад

    sounds like Prokofievs "Dreams" in the beginning of the video

  • @stewartmillen7708
    @stewartmillen7708 10 месяцев назад +1

    However, as it turned out, the 100 mm D-10 did not have superior penetration to the D-25T; in fact inferior. That's why in postwar resistance to the D-25T, not the D-10, became the requirement for armor resistance for Soviet heavy tanks.

  • @ivvan497
    @ivvan497 10 месяцев назад +1

    Can you do a video on IS7

  • @zachfrancisco8185
    @zachfrancisco8185 10 месяцев назад +1

    Next part 3 which i assume is the IS3 and IS4

  • @siaratan9982
    @siaratan9982 10 месяцев назад +3

    Basically "everything was going well, until they didnt"

  • @WarThunderNuke
    @WarThunderNuke 10 месяцев назад +1

    From the smoking rooms to the smoking tank's engine

  • @cabunepgaming732
    @cabunepgaming732 9 месяцев назад

    Wew never knew my favorite tank in WoT has this drastic history...

  • @ARDEN440i
    @ARDEN440i 10 месяцев назад +1

    Did the IS-6 end up getting scrapped or is it in a museum somewhere?

  • @shotgunshellisbadforyourhealth
    @shotgunshellisbadforyourhealth 9 месяцев назад

    This is the first time I've heard about the object 253 project.. Fascinating.. Perhaps the engineers are really smoking something in the "smoking room" while designing the object 252 (IS-6) 😅..

  • @restoreleader
    @restoreleader 10 месяцев назад +1

    Comrade Vovk simply loved his snitching to NKVD :D

  • @alt5494
    @alt5494 10 месяцев назад +2

    Would have been interesting if they interrated on the German gas turbine research instead of electric drive.

  • @icetea8946
    @icetea8946 10 месяцев назад +1

    Can u do a vid on the obj140 ?

    • @thralldumehammer
      @thralldumehammer 10 месяцев назад

      Tank Encyclopedia has a great video on Object 140/T-62

  • @Owlzz_
    @Owlzz_ 27 дней назад +1

    Pure angled Stalinium tractor with gun

  • @LeeMadik
    @LeeMadik 10 месяцев назад

    In the factory:
    "What have you been doing in the smoking room for so long?"
    -oh just smoking.
    "I have heard you talking about impenetrable tanks whit superb speed and Suspension"
    -Yes, we have been smoking a lot.

  • @liamboyle9199
    @liamboyle9199 10 месяцев назад +1

    WHAT... before the IS3😮
    Learn something new every day😂

  • @freedomfrezze
    @freedomfrezze 10 месяцев назад

    Can wait for you to talk about is 7

  • @julmdamaslefttoe3559
    @julmdamaslefttoe3559 10 месяцев назад

    how much wt do you play? and you up for a game with subs?

  • @giuseppemessina5180
    @giuseppemessina5180 10 месяцев назад

    Where did you find the drawing shown at 6:00 ?

    • @RedWrenchFilms
      @RedWrenchFilms  10 месяцев назад

      Inside "Stalin's Supertanks: IS-7 And Others" by Maxim Kolomiets!

    • @giuseppemessina5180
      @giuseppemessina5180 10 месяцев назад

      @@RedWrenchFilms Thank you

  • @jebise1126
    @jebise1126 10 месяцев назад +1

    crazy design.. but i do wonder how is with useful interior design?

  • @masonicrat
    @masonicrat 10 месяцев назад +4

    I find the later IS series of vehicles to be some of the most hilarious vehicles in the world and deserve the same amount of ridicule that the maus (rightly) receives. Just too ambitious for the time; but that's never the conversation, its always about how devastating they WOULD have been in some hypothetical universe.
    "The IS-3 shocked the world and the west feared them until the '70s!!!!" But in real life were so bad that the only thing they could do with them was give them to Egypt in the 50's, where they lost to up-gunned Sherman's. (IS3's in 1956 Hungary get a pass because any tank would have issues with street fighting like what occurred)
    "The IS7 was so amazing that they would have dominated the battlefield! The west would have nothing to stop them!!!"... So you built them and they weren't just a hypothetical sales pitch?

    • @_b_x_b_1063
      @_b_x_b_1063 10 месяцев назад

      IS-7 weight 67 tonn, mass limit series soviet tank 50 tonnes

    • @mattbowden4996
      @mattbowden4996 10 месяцев назад +2

      In fairness, the IS-3s mostly lost to Centurion tanks, but the point stands - these late model IS tanks are all just as absurd as Maus.
      Maus and E100 show us what happens when you try to build an "invulnerable" heavy tank with enough space inside to fight effectively - the weight balloons out to an absurd degree as you try to armour all that volume. The IS-3 and IS-6 show us what happens if you try to build an "invulnerable" tank whilst keeping the weight under control - the internal space shrinks to the point a human can barely fit inside, much less operate the vehicle.

    • @tongqualin
      @tongqualin 10 месяцев назад

      T-10M is pretty much the best one in the series with good mobility, protection, firepower and reliability but too underrated

    • @tongqualin
      @tongqualin 10 месяцев назад

      T-10M is more an MBT if compare to the Centurion

  • @arlobones3410
    @arlobones3410 10 месяцев назад +4

    Hell. Yea

  • @athiftsabit1208
    @athiftsabit1208 10 месяцев назад +1

    So in WT it's relevant to 7.0 BR since it's development is before IS-3

  • @WODZU123098
    @WODZU123098 3 месяца назад

    You have already 1:28 shown the Obj 245 2 times at the very beginning. Obj 244 has a different suspension, when there are already such errors it is a poor reserch.

    • @RedWrenchFilms
      @RedWrenchFilms  3 месяца назад

      I’m not sure what you’re disagreeing with here…

  • @iatsd
    @iatsd 10 месяцев назад

    that was excellent.

  • @danieljohnmorris
    @danieljohnmorris 10 месяцев назад

    Great favourite tank in world of tanks :)

  • @George_M_
    @George_M_ 10 месяцев назад +2

    Lol they made an entire IS series that were not the production vehicles xD

    • @viktoriyaserebryakov2755
      @viktoriyaserebryakov2755 10 месяцев назад

      It's normal for every nation to develop tanks they don't put into service. This applies to all weapons. You develop the technology in advance in case you do need it.

  • @memofromessex
    @memofromessex 10 месяцев назад

    Can you do an episode on Stalinium next?
    (I, of course, joke!)

  • @carlitosskater89
    @carlitosskater89 10 месяцев назад +1

    Is6 in wt has the wrong model on turret height.
    To top it all off, shouldn't be that agile and quick in-game.

    • @volteer1332
      @volteer1332 8 месяцев назад

      None of the soviet heavies should be as quick as they actually are. KV1, IS2, object 279, all with way better acceleration than should be possible, accelerating faster than a couple "light" tanks even, and certainly reversing faster than many main tanks other than a Leo or strv 103

  • @delandel5496
    @delandel5496 10 месяцев назад

    When Sau Ferdinand appeared, the military command of the USSR needed a tank capable of resisting him.
    He was supposed to have a gun with a caliber of about 100mm, quick-firing and accurate, capable of hitting the armor of Sau Ferdenand at a distance of 1000 meters or more. The tank was supposed to have frontal and side armor capable of reliably protecting Ferdenand's 88mm guns at any distance.
    In this case, the tank had to weigh no more than 45 tons.
    Be fast and reliable, easy to repair and comfortable for the crew. With a large ammunition and range of movement. At the same time, it should be cheap, and produced in large quantities.
    However, in 1943 Soviet engineers could not perform such a task. They began the development of tanks of the IS series.
    In the future, it will be possible to create machines with approximate given characteristics. However, by then they will be unnecessary.

  • @pavelslama5543
    @pavelslama5543 10 месяцев назад

    Vovk: I thought that this is a state-owned company! Im a representative of the state! So I should have an option to go wherever I please!
    Kotin: Yes, yes, and yes.
    Vovk: Ok, can I go into THAT room?
    Kotin: No.

  • @w0lfgm
    @w0lfgm 10 месяцев назад

    I hope for IS-5 video. In basic, just know ita name.

  • @AriZM2528
    @AriZM2528 9 месяцев назад

    still waiting for new video

  • @lector-dogmatixsicarii1537
    @lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 10 месяцев назад

    >Heavy tank with the driver's hatch lid as part of the main strike face
    >No gun depression
    >Need to expose hatch more
    >Soviet production syndrome inevitable
    >Electric system on fire moving forward
    >No worry, gun has already gassed you out
    NICE
    [insert soviet apple slicer joke]

  • @username3788
    @username3788 10 месяцев назад

    War Thunder devs: "im gonna pretend like i didnt see that"

  • @balls4514
    @balls4514 9 месяцев назад +1

    What about aboject 268?

  • @StefanBlagojevic
    @StefanBlagojevic 10 месяцев назад +4

    Great moments back in the day, during World of Tanks ZENITH. I love Object 252 and Object 253 = IS-6 ❤❤❤

  • @swynty5767
    @swynty5767 10 месяцев назад

    What about the is5

  • @torbjrnsteinsland8985
    @torbjrnsteinsland8985 10 месяцев назад

    Reminds me of t-10.

  • @DeeDos1484
    @DeeDos1484 9 месяцев назад

    Yo your discord invite link expired

  • @kanestalin7246
    @kanestalin7246 10 месяцев назад

    Imagine if they made the obj 252u

    • @thespyfromteamfortress2568
      @thespyfromteamfortress2568 10 месяцев назад +3

      You're forgetting that they actually DID make a super tank: The IS-7 was actually built

    • @kanestalin7246
      @kanestalin7246 10 месяцев назад

      @@thespyfromteamfortress2568 no i know but i was talking about the 252u not the is7, they are both different vehicles

    • @thespyfromteamfortress2568
      @thespyfromteamfortress2568 10 месяцев назад

      @@kanestalin7246 And I'm saying the IS-7 is superior in every way (excrept cost).

    • @kanestalin7246
      @kanestalin7246 10 месяцев назад

      @@thespyfromteamfortress2568 well yes but that would mean the 252u would have been easier to produce would it not?

  • @meteforest2923
    @meteforest2923 10 месяцев назад

    is it just me or is the object 701 the tank K-91 we know from wargaming. it wouldnt make sense but it looks so much like that

    • @tongqualin
      @tongqualin 10 месяцев назад +1

      Object 701 is prototype IS-3 and have no connection with the K-91. K-91 is a real project but the real thing is actually resembalance the Blitz version more than the PC with a middle turret

  • @RatUtid
    @RatUtid 10 месяцев назад +1

    if gaijin put IS-6 with ww2 tank, it become an absolute unit overpower and destroy anything he see (except CAS :/)

    • @volteer1332
      @volteer1332 8 месяцев назад

      They could change the acceleration and not give it the soviet nuclear shrapnel filler and it would probably be about as annoying as a tiger II.

  • @TabiTheCat
    @TabiTheCat 10 месяцев назад

    The IS-6 is really annoying UNLESS you have heat rounds, then it just melts

  • @righty5890
    @righty5890 10 месяцев назад

    Ayyyy!

  • @leopoldthedigger7062
    @leopoldthedigger7062 10 месяцев назад

    50k around the corner 👀

  • @cheesetonk
    @cheesetonk 10 месяцев назад

    the IS-6 in wotb is not that scary to come by since of it's rear like amour in the front

  • @pushedtop
    @pushedtop 4 месяца назад

    Pov: u know all these tanks from WG but they classify them as different ones 💀

  • @Freemon34
    @Freemon34 10 месяцев назад +1

    WT Players: This tank is OP!
    WOT Players: This tank sucks!

    • @volteer1332
      @volteer1332 8 месяцев назад

      Oh, what modeling an interior does to change its performance

  • @Tiger1ESDKFZ181
    @Tiger1ESDKFZ181 7 месяцев назад

    3:17 is-6 = obj 252u

    • @Kalashnikov413
      @Kalashnikov413 2 месяца назад

      Object 252U is a fundamentally different vehicle than the IS-6 (Object 252)

  • @o-hogameplay185
    @o-hogameplay185 10 месяцев назад

    my question is why had the soviets so many tanks, with really strong frontal armor, and really bad turret armor.

    • @volteer1332
      @volteer1332 8 месяцев назад

      Faster turret rotation. All that turret has to sit on a ring, and they learned how deadly (to the crew) a slow turret is with the KV1 tanks. More weight on the turret ring means either more powerful hydraulics or a lot heavier mountings, which increase weight demands even more.
      They seem to have been severely limited by not producing new guns or breeches, so they had to design turrets around the gun, rather than designing a gun for a turret.

    • @o-hogameplay185
      @o-hogameplay185 8 месяцев назад

      @@volteer1332 but then there are the t-64 and upwards tanks that have better turret armor than hull armor.

    • @volteer1332
      @volteer1332 8 месяцев назад

      @o-hogameplay185 because the t64 isn't a heavy tank, and it is a post WW2 tank.

    • @o-hogameplay185
      @o-hogameplay185 8 месяцев назад

      i was talking about soviet tanks, not just heavy tanks@@volteer1332