Stoffel Vandoorne: From Hero To Zero / Feat
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- Опубликовано: 13 янв 2025
- Stoffel Vandoorne is a fantastic driver, however he struggled the minute he got to F1 with McLaren. Here are my thoughts on the Belgian who's currently in Formula e.
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Imagine being well-known in Open wheel then non-existent in just 3 years.
That’s Stoffel Vandoorne and Pascal Wehrlein for ya.
Pascal Tho 🤧
Hopefully they'll get the success they deserve in FE
@@baysea259 what do Felipe Nasr and Pascal Wehrlein have in common?
Both outperformed Ericsson and were still ousted.
F1 for you🙆🏾♂️
@@hlonim8667 to be fare though Ericsson was outperformed by all his F1 teammates but Nasr and Wehrlein both deserved a longer stint in the sport.
@@jacobmassey3897 I don't understand how he was kept, even in 2018 when alfa took over. Both Nasr and Wehrlein could've even been teammates, ah, what can we do?
He got in the McLaren at the wrong time, that's what. Hope to see him in the F1 grid in the future tho
100%
Same he doesn’t deserve to be cast aside because he didn’t beat one of the best f1 drivers of the 21st century in his rookie season
Sucks because if he had money we all know he would still be in F1 right now.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Pretty much... Although Norris is good , he is indeed kind of a pay driver , although a good one
@@joshuaskywalker1357 not one of the best driver
Tbh I just think there's too many f1 worthy drivers: Hulkenberg, Vandoorne, Albon and De Vries all deserve a seat, but there's just not enough space, especially with so many talented Junior drivers such as Illot as well. You could argue that they should replace the pay drivers, but I would rather see a pay driver in a car then one less team on the grid. I just hope that the budget cap will attract more teams and reduce the need for pay drivers in the future.
Yeah we desperately need 24 competitive, economically sustainable seats to house all this talent.
There's even guys outside the f1 sphere that I would have love to see shoot their shot like Naioki Yamamoto, Scott Dixon, Colton Herta e.t.c.
@@JK7kaye Formula 1 can have up to 26 cars on the grid so 3 more teams joining would be great just as long as they go for a mix of talented experience and youth. e.g. Pascal Wehrlein & Callum Illott
Magnassen too
Yep, we need more teams on the grid. Is there a rule against it or do teams just not want to join? Anyways, with talks about Audi and Porsche maybe joining these guys might get a chance in F1 if those teams get to join
All of those drivers now have a seat except for Stoffel Vandoorne...
And now he's the formula E world Champion.
IDK you guys.... but for me Sakhir GP was for Stoffel and not for George, I mean; why to have a reserve driver if you are never going to use it?
Yeah I'm not sure, it's a huge shame
Because Russell is their go-to guy when a seat at Mercedes opens up. And when an opportunity arises where you can give him a proper test for the job, you'll give him that test
@@zegmakker010 but not when there's literally a reserve driver on circuit ready to do their job
I mean, he even had to rush out immediately after the Formula E test in Valencia to get to Sakhir, only to be told that George was taking the seat. I can only imagine how hurt he must've been, especially since it could've been his chance to deliver like he did in Bahrain 2016.
Because Vandoorne is a has been and George is the future of Mercedes. Why put a driver in the car when he hasn't done an F1 race for nearly 2 years? Would look like a pretty stupid thing to do when George is readily available and a much better driver.
To be honest, as much as I loved the Lando- Carlos bromance, I’d love to see Lando paired against Stoffel. Who knows how good he could be after 4 years in F1
Agreed, would be a great pairing!
I completely agree
To me he should have definitely been in the Toro Rosso in 2019 Helmut called Kvyat back up who they clearly did not think was good enough for Red Bull and what is the point in having drivers at Toro Rosso if they will not have any chance in going to Red Bull. He should have got the chance at Toro Rosso as he could have done a better job than Kvyat and surprised Red Bull.
@@hansfromcongo6322 well Pierre seems happy at there and he's really dragged the team up the order over the past 2 seasons.
Both Belgium. Well kind of
He’s now Formula E champion
Stoffel has so much talent, but it never got reckognised.
Huge shame :(
If he doesn't get a 2nd chance into F1, i hope he gets a chance in Indycar, IMSA or WEC. Heck even SuperGT would be a very good series to compete in.
@@izzdin6228 He is driving in WEC this season in a lmp2
@@ObileenS *clicks mouth* Noice
He is George Russell But Belgian. Wish the hype around him was as good as That of Rusell's. Considering he came from a more struggling background, he should have received more chances and attention.
Completely agree!
But Russell is wayyyyy younger
Russell is definitely faster so I will have to disagree.
@@kenchen704 How do you compare???
Do you understand how F1 works? 💰
I love Stofell they really did hum dirty
LMAOOOO
@@TheNumberOneFexafan what?
@@liamritchie3334 bro what do u mean with dirty
@@TheNumberOneFexafan I mean like he never was able to compete as he had one of the slowest cars on the grid 2 years in a row
@@liamritchie3334 fuck that he was given an F1 seat and all was expected of him was to literally beat alonso a few times in qualy
he won formula e
he's now a world champion
Now he is world champion
Now it's
From Hero to Zero to Hero
Because He Is now the 2022 Formula E champion
Tbh winning formula e as a f2 champion and once promising f1 talent is quite a low bar lol
He’s also doing pretty good in sports cars along side his Formula E drive.
Hopefully Formula E gets better so finally drivers like him can be done some more justice.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Holy crap.. found this video by mistake, found this comment by sheer happenstance. I'm wondering - did it get better in your eyes in the 2 years after this comment?
@@vl3005 Honestly, I'll say so far this season so far, has definitely felt like a significant step up. I think we'll see over the season where things go from here but so far I think things are looking pretty good. Looking forward to this race weekend.
Four letters, one word.... pain.
I liked Stoffel before I saw this video but when you present that junior career to me in that way it makes me feel cheated that this guy is not in an f1 seat.
Yeh 100% agree!
Junior results do not automatically translate to F1 success. He is a driver not a racer and that is evident by how few daring overtakes he made in his career.
@@jacobmassey3897 Wrong words. He arrived to F1 by talent, pure talent, no money, no sponsors, not politic, he was just stuck in a "team" (i mean Brown) that didn't want him, anyway.
Fernando was the Boss in this team at the time, Brown 1st fan of Fernando and also manager of Norris (and Lando is good, for sure), so Stoffel was trapped in this situation. There's no point to say "he wasn't not good enough" in this particular situation.
He should deserved another chance in F1, with the respect from a team, and treated equal to the other driver.
@@chrisvanco4694 and only then would you accept that he is mediocre.
@@jacobmassey3897 Hi, do you have better arguments?
You know when I was Stoffel's age then I was given a kart for free as well,
And then I woke up
:'(
Pain
Wasn’t expecting to see you here, it seems like all of you guys are friends
4:09
“After the Spaniard Attempted some Acrobatics at Melbourne.
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Yep, quite disrespectful
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It was such a shame to see him snubbed by Merc at Sakhir
Stoffel really deserves a chance imo. I was never well and truly aware of his junior career till I saw this video and I’ll be honest it’s much better than what I expected. Something tells me he’ll be back on the grid in 2022.
One can only hope.
Lol
He'll be back in 2023 replacing Hamilton I believe
@@beanlentil that aged poorly
@@ronghe79 my Lewis Ferrari dream was over
Stoffel Vandoorne is the perfect definition of the phrase:
"To succeed in F1, you must be at the right place and the right time"
Dude is back on track with WEC.
Poor Stoffel
I want him back in F1
#bringbackstoffel
#bringbackstoffel
#bringbackstoffel
#BringBackStoffel
#whattheysaid
#bringbackstoffel
Stoffel Vandoorne is one of if not the best racer in the world when it comes to junior categories. Only in F1 he couldn't make his mark but that's because of McLaren & Alonso's bossy attitude. If McLaren had it's 2019 or 2020 car during the 2018 season, I'm sure Vandoorne would be at the top 10 of the drivers' championship. People that think he isn't that talented haven't seen it as the whole picture. I haven't met him but I have been at the world kart where he started and has been given that free kart and it's a pleasure to see al his wins on youtube. If he had the seat during the Sakhir GP, Vandoorne would've won and everyone agrees on that here in Belgium. I'm not sure if that would've influenced Perez joining Red Bull but it's a shame Vandoorne didn't got his chance. I'm a true fan of his talent!
bro what Alonso did in that car was remarkable and Alonso has a reputation of getting more out of a mediocre cars
@@farhannewazkhan4223 Yes but as a Belgian we got inside stories, McLaren at the time was only benefitting Alonso during the whole 2018 season and Vandoorne had no chance. I'm personally a big Alonso fan so I also have mixed feelings about this but it's the team that we'll need to blame. I hope Vandoorne gets another shot in F1 because he deserves it.
@@BoyFromBelgium99 YEAH HE DESRVES IT I HOPE HE GETS IT
Tbh he is a massive wasted talent, not because he wasted it himself but simply the circumstance was really bad... He had to compete against Alonso who had the entire team built around him and then of course got every single upgrade a long long time before Stoffel ever got to see those upgrades. Even Zak Brown himself said they weren't able to give him the car to compete and still got rid of him to bring Norris in. IMO Stoffel would definitely not be worse if he got to McLaren at the same time as Norris did.
Vandoorne was incredibly underrated, sadly he had to race two of the worst McLarens ever seen. Very clean driver as well, watch 2018 crashes and you’ll rarely see him
People treat FE like a feeder series, it is not that easy to adapt to, but we saw what happened when he was fully adapted, he finished 2nd in the standings, ahead of Lucas Di Grassi and Jean Eric Vergne (3 championships between them)
I want Stoffel in F1 so bad. I was so proud to have a Belgian driver, especially one that grew up 15km for me, in f1
Keep up the great content bro, your own music is a great touch!
Thanks man, I'm not sure if it really fits, I just wanted to show off lol
Zero my ass, he's still one of the best drivers in the world
Needed a cool title lol
Just popping by you say you make FANTASTIC content, makes me hyped and more knowledgable about racing and F1 in general. Really entertaining editing too! Keep doing what you do!
There is this series on Amazon called Grand Prix driver it was shot in 2017 and basically revolves around mclaren imagine a whole series of haas level performances and fuck ups. Srsly the team was down bad engine stalled on the first start up in front of the cameras 🎥.
Haha man it was atrocious
Stoffel story reminds me the story of Ricardo Zonta.
2 F3000 champions
2 rookie in F1 with a difficult car to drive
2 rookie in F1 with a world champion teammate who is the center of the team
2 great pilots that F1 has crushed
He's an outstanding driver who came in the wrong team at the worst time ever, and believe me, i know him....Im still not over it
The saddest part is that Stoffel Vandoorne was offered a Torro Rosso seat for 2014 as a replacement for Daniel Ricciardo. Because of his strong Formula Renault 3.5 debut in 2013. But his management thought it would be better to stay at Mclaren as a junior driver... Mclaren really did him dirty and used him as a development driver for Alonso. Always testing new parts, but never got a chance to fight Alonso with equal machinery...
Thank you!!!
Do you think Ocon might be done like Vandoorne in 2017?
@@hlonim8667 I don't think so. He's French and driving for a French brand. So maybe they will protect him. But with Alonso you'll never know.
@@hlonim8667 yeah that's why he won in Hungary because he was the clear number 2 to Fernando 🙄 also, Fernando overtook Stoffel in Baku 2018 when he was half a second down on pace because of floor damage. Even if Stoffel was being used to test parts for Fernando that is still ridiculous how Fernando managed to pass him in a damaged car.
Or you know... he got beaten because its against Alonso.
@@jacobmassey3897 Exactly! Alonso lost 20 points of downforce at Baku and he still finished 7th! Even last year despite Ocon winning, Alonso was still ahead in points.
Mate you're massively underrated
You deserve more subs
3:23 oi Nasr scored *27* points in a *Sauber* beating out Ericsson by *16* points in his *rookie* season. :)
..but tbh he ended his career because he ended Manor’s career
Not gonna lie i only knew him for his 2018 performance now i feel bad.
Dude I love your videos. Please never stop making these jokes in your videos. They make these stories even more enjoyable and interesting even to short attention span people, just like myself. I subbed and I am currently binge watching hour videos. Sorry if my comment was a little hard to understand. English isn't my first language.
Thank you so much mate! Don't you worry, the jokes will keep coming!
I wish there was a well funded, grand Prix distance version of WEC so we could see these great drivers who are outside of the F1 sphere
Dylan: no more formula e jokes
Also Dylan:
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It's unfortunate that not enough fans pay attention to the various feeder series to F1. That being said, history has shown that there are drivers who squander their great potential. Take Jan Magnussen for example, Kevin's father. He dominated the British F3 championship in 1994 to such an extent, breaking a single season wins record that had previously been held by the late Ayrton Senna in the process, that Jackie Stewart talked about him being "the next Senna." However, after a single race with McLaren in 1995, substituting for an unwell Mika Hakkinen, his season and a half with Stewart Grand Prix, ironically run by that same Jackie Stewart and his son Paul, in 1997/98 were underwhelming (he was off the pace compared to his team mate, Rubens Barrichello) and lead to him being dropped after the 1998 Canadian Grand Prix (in which he scored his only points finish, sixth). Given the hype about him before F1, he's rightly considered an F1 bust
Yeah it is strange sometimes, I spose some people can't handle the pressure of F1 :/
una paja responderte en ingles, traducilo, aca en sudamerica y españa aman a alonso y le viven chupando las medias, cuando le hicieron un auto a su medida y aparte tuvo 15 temporadas mas y lo pintan de dios cuando es un bobo
This is probably the saddest story in modern F1 history. McLaren Failed him
Personally I think there are four 1 in a million talents. George Russell, Charles Leclerc, Pascal Wehrlein and Stoffel Vandoorne. Also possibly Nyck De Vries.
Agree with Wehrlein 100%
verstappen wants to have a word with you
@@aaryanshetty1466 Lol
@@aaryanshetty1466 Yeah, atm he would probably beat them all. Also, Lando Norris deserves a mention, he's been really impressive right out of the gates. Out of those, I think that George Russel has the most potential, he's so mature already. Guys like Charles have a lot of raw pace but he makes stupid mistakes that take him out of the race fairly often.
tbf Mclaren in 2018 was just Fernando Alonso GP
He had a lot left to give.....
Sad that McLaren weren't good enough....
I wish he was given the chance over Russell in Bahrain.....
He could've produced a different result 👍🏻❤️
Just hope he comes back to F1 ❤️🙏🏽
100% agree!
damn almost 9k subs! last time i watch ur video at 2k subs. congrats !
Thank you!
I knew Sainz is a good F1 driver. The Carlos-Lando duo was working very well. But I was furious and still am very angry McLaren signed Sainz. If they wanted to replace Vandoorne they should've contracted a proven top class F1 driver like they did this year with Ricciardo. But taking Sainz over your own world class driver was just insane.
That's what happen when the 2nd gets to be the developer driver for the 1st driver.... new wing? sure, stoffel can drive it in practise to see if it works, and when it works, we give it to Alonso... Ha can't complain or else we will deny him a contract... Reminds me of Thierry Boutsen at Williams in 1989...
It's sad that Thierry Boutsen never got a chance to drive with Williams in 1991 en 1992. As he was responsible for the development for the suspension in the FW14 and FW14b that made Nigel Mansell world champion...
2:54
Still nothing Beats the CT03 And the Lotus E22’s nose.
CT05*
But yeah it was hideous hah
Oh yeah it’s the CT05 not the CT03
The main thing I find with him is his consistency, but having consistency in a bad car isn’t always good, out him in a midfield car and he could do wonders over a season
Vandoorne deserves another shot in F1, with a decent car. Deserves his seat more than De Vries or Mazepin
In Formula 1 I "hated" him but now in Formula E Hes my Favourite Driver.
Toyota!! If you're watching this, sign Stoffel up to your WEC program like you did with Nyck! If there's no slot in WEC there's always a chance in gt500 in SuperGT.
Me seeing him winning in 2013 at Spa in a Formula Renault 3.5 was anough te become a fan
I see you are a man of culture, much like myself. The Zelda music has earned yourself a subscription!
Yessss ocarina of timeee
@@DylanJamesGP completely agree with the guy though about the games, I had no idea about vandoornes past. Started watching formula E this year and always explain him to my girlfriend that he's the really slow dude who raced for McLaren for a bit.
I feel bad for Stoffel now :(:(
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I'd love for him to still be in f1
Stoffel is a very good driver with horrible luck dealing with f1, right now he does fe and lemans cup during the off weekends does great in both, if McLaren paired him up with Lando instead of dumping everything he'd probably still be there.
We’ll never know what went on behind the closed doors at McLaren, but I do remember Alonso saying about Vandoorne that he came closer to him than any teammate before. They also seemed to get along well personally. But clear is that chief and marketeer Zak Brown was a big Alonso fan, and ditched the dented Vandoorne image for the fresh UK star Norris. Only the dents in Vandoornes image were caused by serving him McLarens worst race car in decades. Only 2y after, Seidl gave credit to both Alonso and Vandoorne for their development work that eventually proved successful the year after. Oh btw, you forgot Vandoornes podium in Le Mans in his first attempt. I hope we see more of his undeniable talent in other races.
If he agreed to the Helmut Marko proposal to going for Torro Rosso in 2014, the history should be different...
Vandoornes real problem is he has no money , if he had money he would still be in F1 and being Belgian he is unlikely to ever have a major backer , plus the two seasons he spent at McLaren were wasted due to the fact the car was crap , the sad fact is with out major sponsorship his time as a F1 driver is over.
Stoff has always been my favourite driver, Sakhir hurt so much
Reasons why he was dropped:
-He had a shit car
-He had Alonso as a teammate
Vandoorne, Hartley needs to be back.
Amazing video really fantastic love your content
Thank you very much!!
From hero to zero to hero again in formula e
Still hoping for a surprise return somehow. You never know.
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This again 🙈
Hehehe
Just imagine, 2 more teams join F1 and bring in these forgotten talents like him, nyck and more😔
Huh. He was born the day after I was
I'm not skip the ads, thats for you mate 👍
Haha thank you man!
Also an addition, I felt like it was unfair to gave the Sakhir seat to George and not to Stoffel. George will be given more chances in the future, but for Stoff, that was his only chance.
I was so sad and disgusted when Toto Wolff didn't respect his word (during the 2020 Belgium grand prix he said in a interview with a belgian channel if there's any problem with one of our driver he'll be in the car) to Stoffel Vandoorne and choose Russell over him. 😞😞😞 He deserves so much to have a second chance after his misadventures with McLaren. I hope to see him again in F1 even if it is only for one grand prix I would be happy.
Warren and Dylan? Lemme grab my popcorn...this will be good👀🍿
Right car wrong time
Stoffel’s one of those unlucky drivers… and it hurts
FE world champion
everytime he mentioned alonso at mclaren i had to think of the clip where he said engine feels great much slower than before
Nice video as always! Any chance of you doing a video on Christian Lundgaard?
As a belgain i really thing They dropt him to early
Agreed!
This is the ugly truth of F1: to be a winner, you have to be at the right place, at the right time. Stoffel entered F1 in the exact opposite conditions: 2 years in F1, in McLaren's darkest days, alonside Alonso. This meant that his F1 career was doomed from the start
Almost at 10k subs let’s do this this guy is so underrated why is his sub count so low
Thanks man!
Giving a kart for free must be the most Belgian thing ever
Dylan, your setup round Canada is good no cap 😂
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@@DylanJamesGP gotta have something for a race tomorrow 😳
RIP Murray Walker
Him and Lando could’ve been a ridiculously good lineup. Stoff always was given a lesser car because of Alonso and due to expected results not as good as Alonso he was let go. Just like De Vries he should be in f1 and we need more teams
to be fair he was against Alonso in the mclaren and we how much magic Alonso can produce in mediocre car so he did a pretty good job
Loved the zelda's Ocarina of time soundtrack on the background
Yesss!
Subbed. Great vid!
Thank you!!
@@DylanJamesGP No problem! I'm now binging all of your videos :)
3:55 dinosaurs?
As a Belgian, I believe Mclaren mistreated Stoffel
Stoffel, De Vries, The Hulk, Wehrlein...Plenty of drivers with potential who just could not fully show their worth (and) or get labeled for one, exaggerated negative trait, which now follows them forever, sadly
Don't forget Nasr.
The Zelda Music makes this so much better
7:02 background music pleaseee
Stoffel is the only reason I watch Formula E I really hope he gets a chance back in F1 maybe with Williams?
he got that free kart because his dad designed the karting track btw :))
You forgot the Lemans 24 h performance check his lap count, lap time and end result
I thought he generally gave a decent account of himself in 2017 (certainly the second half of not so much the first few races), his drives in Singapore and Malaysia stand out (Malaysia in particular where he beat Alonso on merit), and his start in Mexico (and despite how bad the car was it's actually one of my favourite McLaren F1 cars!), but his 2018 was generally terrible, and I'm pretty sure that there were politics at play that year which didn't help. I do wonder how he might have fared in the MCL34 and MCL35 though. I've enjoyed seeing him do well in Formula E, and though he hasn't had the best start to this season I think he will be a championship contender if the Mercedes continues to be one of the cars to beat.
I have always questioned If 2018 was Vandoorne having terrible pace, or simply Alonso having brilliant pace. As an Alonso fan, I naturally gravitate to the latter, but I do think the former at a part to play.
Let’s go this is great
thing is if lewis yeets out of f1 and george takes the seat aitken replaces him at williams so.........rip