Ross Douthat On Incels | Chapo Trap House | Episode 207

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  • Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2024

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  • @AceAttorny
    @AceAttorny 5 лет назад +396

    "Le Troll Face."
    *Dead silence followed by Muttley snicker*

  • @CandGoods
    @CandGoods 5 лет назад +287

    I would do anything for love, but I won't Douthat.

  • @CMike44
    @CMike44 3 года назад +116

    Remember when Jordan Peterson tried to make the same argument on Rogan's show and stopped when he realized he was doing a Marxism?

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 2 года назад +7

      No, but now I'm going to go and find it

    • @albertgriffith5801
      @albertgriffith5801 2 года назад +19

      That was great. He toured the world on that nonsense and rogan of all people picked it apart in a few minutes.

    • @KSmithwick1989
      @KSmithwick1989 2 года назад +6

      @@albertgriffith5801 Rogan does have a strange sense of occasional wisdom. He's like a cross of a gym-bro and a monk. 😆

    • @finished6267
      @finished6267 Год назад

      He's an Everyman! A bald, trt slamming, elk heart fucking Everyman!

    • @jonathannathan1754
      @jonathannathan1754 6 месяцев назад

      He did a Marxism. He did a socialism. He did a no-growth. He did a misandry.

  • @AceAttorny
    @AceAttorny 5 лет назад +221

    It took me way too long to realize this was from like a year and a half ago and they weren't talking about Joker.

    • @bf3brian
      @bf3brian 5 лет назад +17

      yo the algorithms got us

    • @VMonkies
      @VMonkies 5 лет назад +3

      @@bf3brian not really, this was uploaded the day you commented on it.

    • @ultru3525
      @ultru3525 5 лет назад +6

      Even with Matt literally saying "right now, in the year 2018" at 1:55?

    • @AceAttorny
      @AceAttorny 5 лет назад +2

      Yes.

    • @arlostein1000
      @arlostein1000 4 года назад

      If Todd Philips really wanted to convince the art dorks he's an artist now should've cast Ross

  • @elizabethbennet4791
    @elizabethbennet4791 5 лет назад +221

    Hey, man. As a feminist woman I'd LOVE to return to the 1950s. There was a maximum marginal tax rate of 94%.

    • @sepulcher8263
      @sepulcher8263 5 лет назад +48

      That does sound good to be honest. Buuuut I might have to pass unfortunately as there's also the chance I'll get sprayed with a water hose.

    • @elizabethbennet4791
      @elizabethbennet4791 5 лет назад +12

      @@sepulcher8263 I gotcha but point is it isn't what Doh!That? thinks it was.

    • @metabolic_jam
      @metabolic_jam 4 года назад +1

      So more theft?

    • @denverbritto5606
      @denverbritto5606 4 года назад +2

      As a millionaire id love to go back to a time when i could laugh all day at 94% marginal tax rates id never have to pay.

    • @kwarra-an
      @kwarra-an 4 года назад +12

      @BxxDxx Hoodoo damn dude so edgy and cool

  • @elaikehler6030
    @elaikehler6030 2 года назад +37

    my favorite part of this clip is Matt getting enthralled by the idea of jerry rigged VR sex machines for a solid minute

  • @chibicthulhu
    @chibicthulhu 5 лет назад +111

    The holograms on the holodeck in Star Trek utilize force fields to simulate a sense of touch, so you would not have to crank your own meat.

    • @mrwalkway4740
      @mrwalkway4740 4 года назад +7

      Gravitational Grinding

    • @Khannea
      @Khannea 4 года назад +10

      BRIDGE??! I'LL BE IN HOLEDECK THREE FOR AN HOUR.

    • @guy-sinndavis3546
      @guy-sinndavis3546 4 года назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @macrussell78
      @macrussell78 3 года назад +1

      I feel bad for the clean up crew.

  • @VexedSpartan117
    @VexedSpartan117 5 лет назад +40

    1:03
    god that was adorable

  • @bryn6494
    @bryn6494 5 лет назад +72

    but how do u engage the genitals

  • @onreload
    @onreload 5 лет назад +50

    the phrase "rare bird" will always make me laugh

  • @arlosteiner8382
    @arlosteiner8382 5 лет назад +32

    I've been saddened by a lack of Ross this took me back

  • @mattpfarr5992
    @mattpfarr5992 5 лет назад +39

    Ross Douthat is definitely not a Chad

  • @brokentower3148
    @brokentower3148 5 лет назад +31

    teledildonics

  • @mattlandrie6078
    @mattlandrie6078 3 года назад +7

    "Hard light hologram" as a term, originates on Red Dwarf.

  • @morqesahar
    @morqesahar 5 лет назад +75

    Which way western man?

  • @taochiapet
    @taochiapet 5 лет назад +16

    "oh my god, and it's right next to the ten best hi-fi's of 1965!"
    my 12-year old self lols...

    • @mattpfarr5992
      @mattpfarr5992 5 лет назад

      taochiapet high fives

    • @taochiapet
      @taochiapet 5 лет назад +4

      @@mattpfarr5992 hi-fi = high fidelity stereo systems of old.

  • @equalitystateofmind5412
    @equalitystateofmind5412 4 года назад +25

    Ah, Felix loves penguins. He's such a sweet young man...

  • @PlanetBongoSan
    @PlanetBongoSan 4 года назад +6

    hard light holograms are from Red Dwarf, I'm only a few years late to help out with this crucial information

  • @sadboi3204
    @sadboi3204 5 лет назад +7

    The British navy being made up of incels is the funniest shit

  • @thomasjardine2108
    @thomasjardine2108 4 года назад +6

    I'm glad they reference Nick Land. Accelerationism is becoming more and more relevant in contemporary philosophy

  • @BlueSpiceSpace
    @BlueSpiceSpace 3 года назад +5

    Star trek is that where Han Solo's from?
    Le epic troll face

  • @cartercartercartercar
    @cartercartercartercar 3 года назад +5

    le troll face

  • @duncanurquhart5278
    @duncanurquhart5278 4 года назад +5

    10:08 classic felix bit

  • @a.p.2356
    @a.p.2356 5 лет назад +8

    21:00
    It would obviously be a performance check.

  • @crappozappo
    @crappozappo 4 года назад +8

    This episode was a real Douthie

  • @drdrai7479
    @drdrai7479 7 месяцев назад +1

    Le troll face, like a sir

  • @Tychoxi
    @Tychoxi 5 лет назад +11

    tell that to -Broccoli- Barclay

  • @spinorman
    @spinorman 5 лет назад +5

    The Riddle of the Sphynx: Was Norm on Cheers called Norm because he was normal? Coincidence? 37 years and counting.

  • @travismcnasty51
    @travismcnasty51 4 года назад +8

    Only a few seconds in, but Halo does portray the UNSC as a fascist hegemony

  • @jakeros4750
    @jakeros4750 5 лет назад +5

    right now, in 2018
    Nice

  • @sydberetta4649
    @sydberetta4649 5 лет назад +1

    Y'all killing me with this shit

  • @subversivelysurreal3645
    @subversivelysurreal3645 3 года назад +2

    Isn’t there already an ‘Active-Shooter-IDF-World’…? idk, perhaps it’s merely an ‘Active-Target-IDF-World’.

  • @STRONTIumMuffin
    @STRONTIumMuffin 4 года назад +5

    Master Chief, go on Chapo

  • @alexandriap.3285
    @alexandriap.3285 4 года назад +1

    god as a transhumanist I am so fucking embarrassed by robin hanson's existence.

  • @julianmccormack8704
    @julianmccormack8704 5 лет назад +3

    I fkn love you guys

  • @jonas1015119
    @jonas1015119 2 года назад

    For the penguin story look up Joseph Hatch and Macquarie Island

  • @Cumbercuke
    @Cumbercuke 5 лет назад +57

    That penguin story is why humanity needs to die out.

    • @fordesponja
      @fordesponja 5 лет назад +11

      It could be used as an example to treat these men and show them how shitty is their male victim primadonna stance on the world around them. Let's give them a second chance.
      Sending them to space, oil refineries or a battle royale in some frozen valley on Russia could the the second option if treatment doesn't work.

    • @chriss780
      @chriss780 3 года назад +3

      @@fordesponja reeducation through labor camps for incels and gamers, inshallah bernie should run on this in 2045

    • @fordesponja
      @fordesponja 3 года назад +2

      @@chriss780 are we going the muslim way? I thought it would be hispanic with Bernardino Sandero

    • @chriss780
      @chriss780 3 года назад +3

      @@fordesponja Bernie is actually Shia Muslim and will appoint himself Ayotollah, he will be opposed by alternate earth canadian bernie from earth 3, before eventually having to team with him to fight Bernardino Sandero from earth 37

    • @williamstahla8616
      @williamstahla8616 4 месяца назад

      *the english

  • @biddyfox
    @biddyfox 3 года назад

    the first 2 minutes of this own.

  • @duncanurquhart5278
    @duncanurquhart5278 4 года назад +8

    18:09 i bet felix feels preeeeetty stupid now that its 2020 and everyone on earth is married and has 5 children

    • @HxThomison
      @HxThomison 4 года назад +3

      I am literally married with 5 children. 2 are adopted and one is a fostered youth tho. I had this radical theory that if one were to bring children into this society (North America)it would be an act of vain selfishness, as there are so many children without family/stability etc. Therefore if one just has to have a fucking mini-me, then they should have to take in a child in need. And if they need two mini me's, then goddamn it, they should have to take in 2... And so yeah. I'm technically alive, I guess.. it's nice because we actually fucking cherish the moments that we get to spend together. Going out for dinner is a fucking event, and it's never boring. Can't wait for school to start again.. pardon me?
      What do you mean when you say:
      "Sir this is a Wendy's"

  • @mikeisapro
    @mikeisapro 5 лет назад +1

    "Yeah, but on Twitter"
    Ugh. So many unfortunately beholden to this social media bullshit stuff.

  • @annakarinaalves
    @annakarinaalves 3 года назад

    25:00 I think he was talking about the Endurance.

    • @steelersguy74
      @steelersguy74 2 года назад

      Hmmm I don’t think so. This island “near Australia” is probably Macquarie. The Endurance spent time and eventually sank in the area where the South Atlantic meets the Southern Ocean.

    • @annakarinaalves
      @annakarinaalves 2 года назад

      @@steelersguy74 I remember in Alfred Lansing's book there are a few passages about the crew killing penguins and seals.

  • @TheLokiBiz
    @TheLokiBiz 3 года назад +1

    22:39 - Can someone please explain to me what the hell a "Torgo" is?

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 3 года назад +1

      From Manos:The hands of fate

    • @TheLokiBiz
      @TheLokiBiz 3 года назад

      @@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Ohhhhhhhh, now it makes sense. Hahaha I havent seen that movie in at least a decade or so

  • @yemo34
    @yemo34 5 лет назад +9

    Fleshlight Launch

    • @braidena1633
      @braidena1633 5 лет назад +1

      I'm 99 pt sure that's what they were thinking of but couldn't think of the name

  • @michealruth8925
    @michealruth8925 5 лет назад +5

    If you are reading this you should go find more leftist channels to like and subscribe to.
    Help take youtube back and build the left.

    • @aliasofgray2854
      @aliasofgray2854 4 года назад

      I recommend Vaush. He's a good redoricion, if a bit edgy.

    • @souljastation5463
      @souljastation5463 3 года назад +2

      @@aliasofgray2854 He's a grifter

  • @suzylovesmambo
    @suzylovesmambo 3 года назад

    Uh Robin Hanson: money is a thing, sex is people, hence why you can't redistribute it. Discussion over.

  • @Joebethere7
    @Joebethere7 5 лет назад +6

    Says a lot about Douthat

  • @carystough3745
    @carystough3745 4 года назад +1

    christman has read preciado

  • @Bansell262
    @Bansell262 Год назад

    Hard light holograms from Red Dwarf.

  • @eleSDSU
    @eleSDSU 2 года назад

    There's a whole episode about Holodeck addiction and The Orville ripoff made it about Holoporn addiction.

  • @ProbablyJules
    @ProbablyJules 3 года назад +10

    The thing about this is if you meant redistribution of sex by like Making sure sex worker was safe and unstigmatized, and that they was a high enough ubi so that A no one would be forced into sex work, and B anyone who wanted to pay for sex could, I'd be in favour of it.

  • @jonathannathan1754
    @jonathannathan1754 6 месяцев назад

    THE TIME FOR JIBBER JABBER IS OVER

  • @TigreModerata
    @TigreModerata 2 года назад

    the sad Wizard thing reminds me of Nathan for you and his detective... the guy that called him a sad Wizard of loneliness or something... is "sad Wizard" some archetype, or are these all just role playing dorks, especially the detective?

    • @linuxwizzerd5908
      @linuxwizzerd5908 Год назад +1

      it's an online term for men who reach 30 years old who never made it with a woman

  • @redmage38
    @redmage38 5 лет назад +10

    1312
    viva la revolution
    mouth feel
    smoke weed
    Utoya, El Paso, Christchurch

  • @GrandLordGeek
    @GrandLordGeek 4 года назад +9

    Virgil clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about. It’s obvious the most likely scenario was that hippies were either druids or enchantment specialist wizards casting a charm spell on the old fashioned American male and he massively failed his Will save! The Beetles were clearly high level bards who critically succeeded their seduction rolls, and now the blue-haired elfin social justice warrior wizard women have succeeded in casting their polymorph class bimboification spells on the weakened American soy boi! I mean, it’s obvious!

    • @metabolic_jam
      @metabolic_jam 4 года назад

      None of them know what they're talking about.

    • @arlostein1000
      @arlostein1000 4 года назад +1

      I'd be down with that but the Beatles being high level bards would mean they'd make some good music which they didn't so unfortunately gorgeous DnD theory falls apart

    • @HxThomison
      @HxThomison 4 года назад

      This deserves deeper exploration.

  • @big_hat_logan
    @big_hat_logan Год назад

    Punching rare birds to death

  • @gapsule2326
    @gapsule2326 5 лет назад +8

    Dog + peanut butter

  • @r.lewisblake7793
    @r.lewisblake7793 4 года назад

    You guys smoke the best shit!
    Love you keep it up!

  • @azureknight777
    @azureknight777 5 лет назад +2

    Minuette

  • @Gunman610
    @Gunman610 3 года назад +5

    As sad as a lot of incels are, it's given rise to people who use the word "incel" to be bullies while pretending to be noble.

  • @jamesshefchik9690
    @jamesshefchik9690 3 года назад +2

    Praeger U advert on this

  • @emmy8526
    @emmy8526 2 года назад +1

    Ah, the rare Will-less episode... so restful on the ears. ❤️ Matt here.

  • @smokinthatzaza
    @smokinthatzaza 5 лет назад +1

    r/niceguys

  • @Killroy2112
    @Killroy2112 4 года назад +2

    Redistribute wealth and decriminalize sex work. Let the rest solve itself.

    • @HxThomison
      @HxThomison 4 года назад +2

      People won't need to whore themselves if wealth is distributed properly.
      So, here we are again.
      It's just going to get bad for incels. Sex robots. Fucking free/state subsidized sex robots. That go out and kill terrorists while you sleep.
      Boom. World's problems solved.

    • @God_gundam36
      @God_gundam36 3 года назад +1

      @@HxThomison some people do sex work because they like it you know?

  • @BogartWestern
    @BogartWestern 4 года назад +2

    I like how Matt couldn't understand that Hanson was making a case against wealth/income redistribution by supporting forced redistribution of sex to illustrate how ridiculous they both are (I'm for wealth redistribution, but I'm trying to demonstrate how Hanson might've been arguing). Matt does that sometimes - when he gets worked up and points out the obvious, he misses the point the argument is trying to make.

  • @equalitystateofmind5412
    @equalitystateofmind5412 4 года назад +1

    Porn's bad, but so are guns. Both should be legal.

    • @actaeondiomedes4270
      @actaeondiomedes4270 4 года назад +8

      You’d think the people who are all about person freedom and responsibility would be okay with others expressing their sexuality freely, but I guess not...

    • @equalitystateofmind5412
      @equalitystateofmind5412 4 года назад +1

      @@actaeondiomedes4270 Right?

  • @Taurox220
    @Taurox220 Год назад +1

    Hearing Chapo crew talk about the downward spiral of communities built solely on commisserating and becoming more miserable and not offering any solutions is so hilarious given that they've become the same thing except they're funny and know how to monetize it.

    • @micahrogers7536
      @micahrogers7536 Год назад

      Kinda facts, I feel like their ties with DSA forces them to steer clear of revolutionary critiques

  • @camildumitrescu3703
    @camildumitrescu3703 3 года назад +4

    i mean...compassion and maybe, just maybe, a charitable approach in looking at a demographic that can be ALSO described as, basically, alienated people (men, in this case, although...)looking for ways to exist and resist in a shitty society, a phenomenon not singular at all worldwide, just look at Japan, anyway....ha-ha---HA! Lonely people going nuts, how cringey!!!!... Can we just .... blame it more on them, and have a healthy laugh, in our socialist moral tower? Keepin it real, and cool, with Chapo! They've figured it out!

    • @freakyzed8467
      @freakyzed8467 3 года назад

      Why should we have compassion for people who have none for others? They are alienated. So? EVERYONE is now. They just whine about it and hate on the women they can't attract. Boo freaking hoo!

    • @camildumitrescu3703
      @camildumitrescu3703 3 года назад +1

      ok then. hey, fuck them! Enjoy your moral superiority buddy! you've figuresd it out, nothing to see here...

    • @freakyzed8467
      @freakyzed8467 3 года назад +3

      @@camildumitrescu3703 yes, I will enjoy my moral superiority. I know that what I believe and work toward increases the freedoms of all. There is nothing wrong with that. If you want to hold others back while you coddle the very people who seek to roll back progress then you have no moral leg to stand on.

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 2 года назад +1

      The same applies to a lot of alt-righters and other extremists, so it's an important question.
      The same _alienation,_ although I suspect that lack of sex is also frequent for extremist recruits.

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 2 года назад +1

      @@camildumitrescu3703 to be fair, up till 23:00 they _were_ talking about libertarians and the effects of capitalism rather than about incels.

  • @Ryan_Wiseman
    @Ryan_Wiseman 5 лет назад +7

    Personally, like this channel a bit. I do think Vaush and Contrapoints have better takes and solutions on this and glad I found both of them before this channel. Keep up the good interview work with other leftists; that is really important

    • @RoyalFusilier
      @RoyalFusilier 5 лет назад

      I do find the Chapo boys /deeply obnoxious/, but their Brogressive takes themselves can often have some good points, and I'm glad they're around turning people on to these ideas.

    • @arlostein1000
      @arlostein1000 4 года назад +2

      Natalie's take is to understand them, the take isn't all that different though as she showed when she guested on the show. And there is no solution you can't force incels to get better you just have to hope they do but because they're stuck in an echo chamber they're not leaving en masse because internet culture makes it easier to stay in your shell

  • @earfboy2146
    @earfboy2146 5 лет назад +2

    Matt needs to shut up and let Felix shine

    • @HxThomison
      @HxThomison 4 года назад

      It's an alternate universe/inverted O&A, max is Opie. Where's Patrice?
      Remember Proud Boys were practically birthed by Beige Philip. Holy shit. I need to sleep

  • @spinorman
    @spinorman 5 лет назад +1

    I just started watching your channel and have been enjoying it. But no one of you watches start trek. First - losers. Second - what has happened with diversity in the work place. I don't know if I am coming back.

  • @josephthemann1174
    @josephthemann1174 2 года назад

    E

  • @camildumitrescu3703
    @camildumitrescu3703 3 года назад +1

    And not the tiniest chance to even mention feminism, the alienating mating system and the general cultural discourse as possible things to relate with the topic, Brave and Nouanced as usual, all-so-daring! The morally consistent men of Chapo. The Incel Slayers!
    (also, pick the lowest hanging write piece on the issue, and roast it wildly!!! way to go!)

    • @freakyzed8467
      @freakyzed8467 3 года назад +3

      So women trying to gain parity with men is what you blame. Guess you think women should just take a mate they don't want cuz..... why exactly?

    • @camildumitrescu3703
      @camildumitrescu3703 3 года назад

      I mean..... Yes amigo, that's precisely my point. And not only that. ERASE the 19th century! At least! You sound like an educated guy, you see where I'm going....

  • @soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342
    @soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 5 лет назад +4

    Poor guys... I get that they are sexually frustrated. Join the club lol. Honestly no ones sexual desires are ever fully fulfilled. No ones desires in general are ever 100% fulfilled lol. But no need to spread lies and get super angry about it... That's not going to help your problem at all.
    Just hang in there and spend your time doing things that make you happy. Things that anyone can do. Take a walk. See nature. Hang out with pets. Eat your fav food. Get some exercise. Take a nice shower. Put on some clean clothes. Get some good sleep. Take up a project. Hang out with your pals. Watch a movie. Play a game. Listen to some music. Enjoy life.
    So you don't have all the chicky pies sucking you off 24 7 lol. Big deal. Most people don't and even the few who do have problems too. That's life. Some doors are closed to some people but then other doors open. Focus on the open doors and try to open more doors for everyone else along the way. Slamming doors just makes the problem worse while causing other problems. Yeah sure life is unfair and luck/badluck will always be a thing we can't control... But you can still be very happy.
    Now call me a preachy cuck for telling folks that it's not the end of the world lol.

    • @taochiapet
      @taochiapet 5 лет назад +2

      for a lot of these incels, it's much darker than that. it's less an under-abundance of sex, than an over-abundance of self-loathing and misogyny.

    • @neomcdoom
      @neomcdoom 2 года назад

      This is a dumb comment. If you were familiar with Matt Christman’s political views you would know he views gaming as a pathway to spiritual death

  • @LarryPokeTrainer
    @LarryPokeTrainer 4 года назад +2

    "political chasms opening between them" he means women are liberal and emotional and men are conservative and logical

    • @HxThomison
      @HxThomison 4 года назад +2

      Fuck I love chasms. They are soo deep and sexy.

    • @souljastation5463
      @souljastation5463 3 года назад

      This happens only in America

  • @52baldingindianjanitor72
    @52baldingindianjanitor72 4 года назад

    Why is it so hard to comprehend that in the age of social media where women have an abundance of options that they will naturally select the much more physically attractive men? These guys should have FaceandLMS as a guest.

    • @kwarra-an
      @kwarra-an 4 года назад +9

      I don't know that that actually happens in reality, though. One still sees plenty of less conventionally attractive guys in relationships (often with more conventionally attractive women), and I don't see why you wouldn't apply the same logic of "more choices = more selective towards attractiveness" to men as well. Is everybody more selective and shallow now? If so, wouldn't there be way fewer "ugly" people in relationships?

    • @HxThomison
      @HxThomison 4 года назад +8

      @@kwarra-an this.
      Thank you.
      The absolute brainwashing of humanity has left us with narrow ideals regarding physical beauty and desirability, if these brainwashed incels/femcels could only somehow have a series of sexual relationships with the 'desireable' class, they would quickly learn that it's literally all bullshit. It's like a new sexy car... Once you get used to it, it's just a fucking car. I mean, I'm not comparing human beings to cars, but the idea that there is a standard lookswise that's going to make you feel better somehow. It's bullshit. We are all pink on the inside.
      That said, no dubs.

  • @madeconomist458
    @madeconomist458 3 года назад

    "You [Robin Hanson] are a libertarian. You prima facie refuse to redistribute wealth"
    Considering that Robin Hanson wrote an article in 2011 titled "Why I'm not Libertarian," this is not a good look, CTH.

  • @wrinklefighter
    @wrinklefighter 2 года назад

    God damn do I love the rare Halo nerd tangent.