It would have been nice to have a discussion on the actual performance metrics. This video handled the basic (aka easy to describe) components of TP, but really diving into the performance metrics and measurables is what we really need to better understand.
Have to say as a past user of Training Peaks, it's a very expensive tool with added costs for plans and coach input. It's only useful for the very keen amateur (age grouper/ CAT 1 and up). £120 for the yearly subscription and another £75- £150plus for a coach plan. Expensive training diary basically. Sorry GCN, just a user experience other than salesman.
@@andrewschietzsch5398 it'll be premade and have been released to the public by accident so set to private and then released on time when it should have gone out.
Great video Conor! As an 'average to keen' gravel/road cyclist I entered my first event in Dec 2019 - the Dirty Reiver in the UK for Apr 2020 - it was rescheduled - due to Covid of course - and then rescheduled again to April 2021. However, using training peaks (TP), and setting my own training plans without a coach, I could see my fitness progressing towards the event date, fall back when I didn't manage to complete my planned workouts (or when taking a planned rest break/was injured etc) and monitor accumulated tiredness too so I was able to adjust the plan when before wearing myself out. I found TP easy to use and, although a bit pricy, it seems great value to be able to visualise my progress towards the event. Other training packages are available and no one is paying me to write this (I wish) - it was just vey useful and continues to work for me.. My take-away msg to folks who want t get stronger or train towards an event is "Try the free version and see for yourself.." By the way I only cycle outdoors, hail, rain or snow, so can make no comment on how TP can help those who prefer an indoor sweat-fest :-)
This was a pretty disappointing overview that largely missed the purpose of Training Peaks, either for an athlete working with a coach or the analytical minded self-coached athlete. Only a brief mention of the performance management chart near the end, and no mention of TSS, CTL, etc. and the theory behind using these stats to manage a season and build toward goals is bewildering. Agree with another commenter who stated this is most useful if you have a power meter - then you or the coach compares perceived exertion with the power numbers, heart rate, TSS, etc. to determine progress. I don't work with a coach or race, but as a stats nerd enjoy using the platform to track my own progress (or lack thereof).
I have been trying to figure out for weeks how to sync workouts not from apps to Training Peaks as it is said here and everywhere but from Training Peaks *_to_* an interval training app that allows me to follow the actual training session. Oh, how I miss my Garmin watch...
Tried biorhythms in the past with running, just training hard on natural highs every 23 days and either resting or low intensity on the opposing days. Don't laugh until you look into it.😬 there's some science behind biorrythms and calculated individually
I use TP premium but pay £24/month. I like the calendar the metrics such as TSS etc but duplicates form , fitness and fatigue in Strava. Does Relative Effort measure better than TSS? I have Strava premium too. Don’t want to use and pay for both. Has TP really got advantages over Strava?
im guessing that this was not your real TP account, connor - because there is no way on earth that your fitness level is only at 6. I would hazard a guess your actual level is around 125 - 135. I've been a part of the coaching program with TP since June 2019 but specifically with running (don't beat me). I was previously a cyclist, but a bad accident and then waiting too long for compensation without being able to afford a new bike at the time as i took time off work led me to running. personally i have a workout scheduled pretty much every day- sometimes 7 days a week, sometimes 6 and have found tp very easy to use and work with. The traffic light system is a very handy at-a-glance way for your coach to see how you are getting on and adding notes after a workout is good for you to look back on your progress. With TP it is important to do regular threshold tests to ensure all of your zones are set up correctly because when a workout is scheduled for you, TP will auto adjust the calculations to ensure you run/cycle etc in the desired zone. The only thing I don't like in TP would be some of the post workout visualisation graphs. The basics such as HR, pace, power are in easy to read charts and graphs, however i use extra features such as vertical oscillation, ground contact time, LR balance etc which can only be viewed on a weird scatter chart whereas Garmin connect for example would have individual graphs which, on the connect mobile app, can overlay one another so you can see how a change of cadence affected your pace for example.
My question is, how useful is it for us that don't have a power meter? Because my impression is that the tools are heavily reliant on that information.
If you are serious about training, a power meter, while expensive, is a great investment. The data it delivers is extremely useful in tracking progress.
I’ve been using it with my plan pushed out to Zwift. My bike power meter recently broke, but my wahoo kickr power meter works. I do the hard rides on the trainer where power is important and ride to heart rate on my bike for the endurance/recovery rides.
Somewhat. You need a HR monitor at the least, and it does decently with that, with the usual issues from training to HR rather than power (which isn't something they can control at all). That said, I probably won't get a paid subscription again (had a free trial) until I get a power meter someday. Or at least have time to actually train, rather than just record bike commutes...
Can you make a similar video for Rouvy, please. I use that app and I would love to get some more info like this for using it better and improving faster. Thanks!
It would have been nice to have a discussion on the actual performance metrics. This video handled the basic (aka easy to describe) components of TP, but really diving into the performance metrics and measurables is what we really need to better understand.
We get it Conor, you did the Giro last year! Thanks for rubbing it in 😂
Do a video on Golden Cheetah. The poor man's Training Peaks!
Yes, I do have a coach. If I’m not doing well I have somebody to blame rather than myself!
Have to say as a past user of Training Peaks, it's a very expensive tool with added costs for plans and coach input. It's only useful for the very keen amateur (age grouper/ CAT 1 and up). £120 for the yearly subscription and another £75- £150plus for a coach plan. Expensive training diary basically. Sorry GCN, just a user experience other than salesman.
Agree. Some will see value in it but for most, let's face it, it's an indulgence. But then so is all the other latest gear.
I strongly agree !
Why take the videodown and now up again a few days later?
It was probably supposed to be set to private, initially.
@@andrewschietzsch5398 it'll be premade and have been released to the public by accident so set to private and then released on time when it should have gone out.
This was great Connor.
Very good breakdown of TP
Great video Conor! As an 'average to keen' gravel/road cyclist I entered my first event in Dec 2019 - the Dirty Reiver in the UK for Apr 2020 - it was rescheduled - due to Covid of course - and then rescheduled again to April 2021. However, using training peaks (TP), and setting my own training plans without a coach, I could see my fitness progressing towards the event date, fall back when I didn't manage to complete my planned workouts (or when taking a planned rest break/was injured etc) and monitor accumulated tiredness too so I was able to adjust the plan when before wearing myself out. I found TP easy to use and, although a bit pricy, it seems great value to be able to visualise my progress towards the event. Other training packages are available and no one is paying me to write this (I wish) - it was just vey useful and continues to work for me.. My take-away msg to folks who want t get stronger or train towards an event is "Try the free version and see for yourself.." By the way I only cycle outdoors, hail, rain or snow, so can make no comment on how TP can help those who prefer an indoor sweat-fest :-)
Thank you for the video. Reading the title I expected you to dive in a bit more detail to explain the metrics provided by the platform :)
This was a pretty disappointing overview that largely missed the purpose of Training Peaks, either for an athlete working with a coach or the analytical minded self-coached athlete. Only a brief mention of the performance management chart near the end, and no mention of TSS, CTL, etc. and the theory behind using these stats to manage a season and build toward goals is bewildering. Agree with another commenter who stated this is most useful if you have a power meter - then you or the coach compares perceived exertion with the power numbers, heart rate, TSS, etc. to determine progress. I don't work with a coach or race, but as a stats nerd enjoy using the platform to track my own progress (or lack thereof).
Great to see a different training app being talked about.
(Despite every cycling video I watch being preceded by a Zwift advert!) Lol
Need more information about fatigue, form, fitness.
I have been trying to figure out for weeks how to sync workouts not from apps to Training Peaks as it is said here and everywhere but from Training Peaks *_to_* an interval training app that allows me to follow the actual training session. Oh, how I miss my Garmin watch...
I’m new to TP gradually working it out…can you build your own workouts on iPad/mobile or only on laptop? Do you then send it to Garmin etc? Thanks.
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Tried biorhythms in the past with running, just training hard on natural highs every 23 days and either resting or low intensity on the opposing days. Don't laugh until you look into it.😬 there's some science behind biorrythms and calculated individually
This video was accidentally released a few days ago then pulled. I watched it then it disappeared from my history. Interesting.
if i buy a $5 4 weeks training plan is it mine to keep ? or do i lose it at the end of the fourth week
I use TP premium but pay £24/month. I like the calendar the metrics such as TSS etc but duplicates form , fitness and fatigue in Strava. Does Relative Effort measure better than TSS? I have Strava premium too. Don’t want to use and pay for both. Has TP really got advantages over Strava?
im guessing that this was not your real TP account, connor - because there is no way on earth that your fitness level is only at 6. I would hazard a guess your actual level is around 125 - 135.
I've been a part of the coaching program with TP since June 2019 but specifically with running (don't beat me). I was previously a cyclist, but a bad accident and then waiting too long for compensation without being able to afford a new bike at the time as i took time off work led me to running. personally i have a workout scheduled pretty much every day- sometimes 7 days a week, sometimes 6 and have found tp very easy to use and work with. The traffic light system is a very handy at-a-glance way for your coach to see how you are getting on and adding notes after a workout is good for you to look back on your progress.
With TP it is important to do regular threshold tests to ensure all of your zones are set up correctly because when a workout is scheduled for you, TP will auto adjust the calculations to ensure you run/cycle etc in the desired zone.
The only thing I don't like in TP would be some of the post workout visualisation graphs. The basics such as HR, pace, power are in easy to read charts and graphs, however i use extra features such as vertical oscillation, ground contact time, LR balance etc which can only be viewed on a weird scatter chart whereas Garmin connect for example would have individual graphs which, on the connect mobile app, can overlay one another so you can see how a change of cadence affected your pace for example.
I really like conor
But what is better- Strava or training peaks
Good question!
Thank's for the information, Really Help full
Nice!
My question is, how useful is it for us that don't have a power meter? Because my impression is that the tools are heavily reliant on that information.
Not very, unless relying on a heart rate monitor. To be honest, it's a very expensive tool for what it is
If you are serious about training, a power meter, while expensive, is a great investment. The data it delivers is extremely useful in tracking progress.
I’ve been using it with my plan pushed out to Zwift. My bike power meter recently broke, but my wahoo kickr power meter works. I do the hard rides on the trainer where power is important and ride to heart rate on my bike for the endurance/recovery rides.
Somewhat. You need a HR monitor at the least, and it does decently with that, with the usual issues from training to HR rather than power (which isn't something they can control at all). That said, I probably won't get a paid subscription again (had a free trial) until I get a power meter someday.
Or at least have time to actually train, rather than just record bike commutes...
If you don’t have a PM, then you’re likely not serious enough to pay for TP
request , ( can a fixed gear bike/track bike beat an road bike )
Usually my training involves two peaks and troughs - I call it Twin Peaks training.
You already uploaded this video
When is the 7 vs 1 video coming out?
Can you make a similar video for Rouvy, please. I use that app and I would love to get some more info like this for using it better and improving faster. Thanks!
Rouvy does not sponsor GCN so do not hold your breath :-)
Very easy to find, would have taken you less time to search for than it took you to write the comment...
ruclips.net/video/MY6aLdwNgdg/видео.html
Very disappointing! All sales pitch, no "How To".
Just started train8g peaks today, no coach yet
Nice goal you have there...
You have to purchase training plans on top of paying for a subscription? Good grief.
I have heard (do not use myself) that there are free plans you can use
Giro stage 20 great memories. 😂😂😂
Super Nerds.!!!! Hit the gym bro
first we had "the brick", now we have "the mop" - coming soon, "the gcn diy store"
2000 TSS?? That's nuts.
How useful is this for someone who just wants to get out and ride and doesn't really care about metrics - ZERO USEFUL.
Omg - Connor you are an animal!
That site looks a student’s thesis project :)
Haha, you’ve nailed its’ biggest weakness. It could benefit from a Trainer Road emphasis on UI
After all that publicity no DISCOUNT CODE???
so there's no roof in the studio?😂
They had to remove it so Connor could stand up...
Hahaha
Connor please do not tell me your CTL is at 6 right now, this cannot be real
Training peaks waste of £80, buy a diary instead for £5. Trainer Road you get workouts
More than doubled in price since this video 3 years ago…
Please in Spanish
First again
Connor has so many capillaries it looks like fat!
First !