What is a REAL medieval CASTLE? a stronghold fortress citadel or château?

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  • Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
  • Is a castle, a fortress, stronghold, château or a citadel? Well in this video I answer what a medieval castle really is.
    Big thank you to Drone Girl for letting me use some of her footage. Drone Girl's channel can be found here: / @dronegirl1

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  • @supertapis7357
    @supertapis7357 8 лет назад +104

    Being a little french frog I may be able to give a more precise definition of some of the tems discussed here.
    Actually, the word "château" in french wasn't synonymous of "castle" or "fortress" at all until the XVIth century. Before this period, castles in french were actually reffered to as "forteresses" (transparent translation) or "castels" (singular : "castel" which led in english to the word "castle"). And the exact definition of a "château" is a building with a living room, a bedroom and a kitchen (there could be more rooms obviously). So the french word actually insisted on the residential function of the building without any consideration for a defensive purpose. Thus, in medieval times in France, "le château" usually reffered to the part of the castle were people (the lord owning it and his relatives) lived while the entire complex would be reffered to as a "forteresse" or "castel". I know a very precise exemple : the local castle of my town (Montargis in the middle of France, at the south of Paris), which was a royal castle built by the king Phillippe Auguste had a specific building separated from the rest of the structure which would accomodate the royal children. This specific building had a living room, a kitchen and two to three bedrooms and was called "le château". This distinction was mostly influenced by the difference between such a building with various rooms having a precise purpose, and popular houses often composed of one huge and only room where an entire family would live (which was standart in rural areas). Fun fact then is that nowadays, many people could claim that they live in a castle according to the historical definition of the term. During the XVIth century, writers began to reffer to every prestigious buildings as "châteaux" (which is why we translate it in english using the word "castle") by convenience and distinguished the heavyly fortified medieval castles as "forts châteaux" or in a more actual formulation "châteaux-forts". Thus, Versailles, Chenonceaux or Chambord are "châteaux" and the castle of Caen or the high koenigsbourg for instance are "châteaux-forts". This also implies that in french, the dinstinction between a fortress, a castle or a mansion is very difficult to establish, even if defensive buildings dating back from the XVIth, the XVIIth or later centuries may be reffered more often as "forteresses" and not as "châteaux" anymore. Then, english speaking authors would pick the word "château" to reffer to prestigious buildings according to the most recent use of the term in french.

    • @Gophilio4567
      @Gophilio4567 7 лет назад +7

      Thanks for the info.
      By the way, just a little grammatical correction:
      "as "forts châteaux" or in a more actual formulation "châteaux-forts""
      Maybe you meant "a more CURRENT formulation". The term "actual" does not mean the same as the word "actuel" in French. "Actual" in English means "real", "factual". For example, if I say "I am actually hungry", it would mean "I am hungry for real", "j'ai faim pour de vrai". Not the same thing as "j'ai actuellement faim" which would be translated by "I am currently hungry".
      Here, just a little information for you :)

    • @MadManchou
      @MadManchou 7 лет назад +5

      While we're on terms an etimology, it might be useful to point out that "castel" and "château" are, basically, the exact same word, the only difference being that the later is more recent in form. There were however, different meanings going under this word, which evolved through time.
      For french literary nerds : www.cnrtl.fr/etymologie/château

    • @ashlieneevel2708
      @ashlieneevel2708 7 лет назад +2

      I was really interested in reading what you had to say, but the fact that you were lazy, and didn't create paragraphs, made all that useful information unreadable.

    • @Jus10Ed
      @Jus10Ed 7 лет назад +2

      heh heh "little French frog." That's funny.

    • @Tj-ho2fs
      @Tj-ho2fs 7 лет назад +5

      Ashlie, how pedantic can you be? He provided a lot of useful info.

  • @MonstraG55
    @MonstraG55 7 лет назад +219

    - Are you a real castle?
    - Well uh technically nah
    - Have you ever repelled an invader like a.. like a real army?
    - Naah
    - Have you ever tried fortifications?
    - Nah nah
    - Alright I can see that I will have to teach you how to be Castle!

    • @CarlosRios1
      @CarlosRios1 7 лет назад +3

      MonstraG this needs more likes

    • @Immortalcheese
      @Immortalcheese 7 лет назад

      i love this comment

    • @cgamejewels
      @cgamejewels 5 лет назад

      don't forget the Machicolaaatiooooooons!

    • @thomaszhang3101
      @thomaszhang3101 4 года назад +1

      We are No. 2!

    • @whiderboss
      @whiderboss 4 года назад +3

      Now look at this machicolation, that I just found, when I saw go, be ready to fire, go! Fire at him not me! Ugh let's try something else. Now watch, and learn, here's the deal, you slip an arrow thru the arrow slit, ha ha ha h, WHAT ARE YOU DOING

  • @Quasihamster
    @Quasihamster 8 лет назад +377

    A real castle has to be two things: Real, and a castle.

    • @stefanb6539
      @stefanb6539 8 лет назад +49

      +Mikosch2 A complex castle consists of a real part and an imaginary part!

    • @Quasihamster
      @Quasihamster 8 лет назад +7

      +Stefan B Actually the imaginary castles are not so much the problem. But try to besiege a holographic one, and you'll be in for a big surprise when you try to bust the gate.

    • @stefanb6539
      @stefanb6539 8 лет назад +9

      Pah, busting holo-gates!
      To even get the chance of besieging a complex castle at all, you have to first multiply it with its own conju-gate!

    • @DaSpooge
      @DaSpooge 8 лет назад +3

      +Mikosch2 Well you're not wrong.

    • @algirdassalomskas9050
      @algirdassalomskas9050 8 лет назад +2

      you have to get through the firewall and the antivirus program first to do that.

  • @ImpecuniousMax
    @ImpecuniousMax 8 лет назад +154

    I enjoy your videos on castles, but I really do wish that you'd include annotations in them identifying each castle as its shown on screen.

    • @The0Skeleton123
      @The0Skeleton123 8 лет назад +26

      second that.

    • @quakxy_dukx
      @quakxy_dukx 2 года назад +2

      The castle in the thumbnail is Inveraray Castle of the Scottish Clan Campbell

    • @matthewkramer8578
      @matthewkramer8578 3 месяца назад +1

      I Agree as well!!

  • @MoonfaceMartin88
    @MoonfaceMartin88 8 лет назад +25

    In germany we call castles that were renovated to be more comfortable subsequent to being made largely obsolete as fortresses "Wohnburg", which literally translates to "living-castle". A building stylized as a medieval structure that was never actually used as a fortress would be a "Schloss", although the term can also refer to actual former castles that were changed so much they are practically a completely new building.

    • @BiglerSakura
      @BiglerSakura 6 лет назад +2

      What is the root meaning of the word "Schloss"? Is it something like a "lock". If so, it sounds to be the original term for real castles.

  • @saltykaiser81
    @saltykaiser81 8 лет назад +91

    so a castle is like a thumb, all thumbs are fingers, but not all fingers are thumbs, but with medieval structures

    • @shadiversity
      @shadiversity  8 лет назад +20

      +Noah Tjarks Pretty much ^_^

    • @CarlosRios1
      @CarlosRios1 7 лет назад +6

      Noah Tjarks thumbs aren't fingers, they're thumbs. Thumbs have only 2 phalaxes and 1 metacarp while all other fingers have 3 phalanxes and 1 metacarp.

    • @ernestof6697
      @ernestof6697 5 лет назад +1

      a thumb with medieval fortifications is one badass thumb ;) j/k i know what you mean

    • @wildfire9280
      @wildfire9280 3 года назад

      @@CarlosRios1 "all _other_ fingers"

  • @xBulbaneerx
    @xBulbaneerx 8 лет назад +22

    Hey Shad, a viewer from Germany here.
    I found the topic you showed very interesting, especialy because in my language
    we don't realy have that problem of distinguishing the two. In german, the standard
    you want to set with "chateau" and "castle" are already defined be two words.
    The first is "Burg" (not to be confused with the english term which defines a living district)
    which is given to a hold with primarily defensive purposes and the other term
    "Schloss" which describes a lords domicile as "luxurious" residence which pretty much comes
    back to the "english" definition of chateau.
    A good example for Schloss would be the one in my hometown.
    It would be best if you just google "Schloss Idstein" since i do't wanna put down any links here that
    seem dubious. As alternative you could also look up the most famous one in Germany
    "Schloss Neuschwanstein".
    I hope the information i provided did help you out a bit and keep up
    the videos, they are awesome! ;)

    • @gormauslander
      @gormauslander 4 года назад +1

      Which I presume can result in some weird things like eine burg auf einem berg

    • @gormauslander
      @gormauslander 4 года назад

      Would a mountain carved into the shape of a castle be...a buerg?

    • @Reichthoff
      @Reichthoff 3 года назад

      So schloss is like palace or mansion while burg is castle.

  • @Armaggedon185
    @Armaggedon185 8 лет назад +85

    Castle doesn't sound like a word anymore...

  • @klavakkhazga3996
    @klavakkhazga3996 8 лет назад +181

    Take a shot every time you hear castle!

    • @michaelanderson2166
      @michaelanderson2166 8 лет назад +24

      +Klavak Khazga dead within three minutes.

    • @shadiversity
      @shadiversity  8 лет назад +26

      +Klavak Khazga lols

    • @DeerLodgeBlog
      @DeerLodgeBlog 8 лет назад +1

      +I am Shad I would define a stronghold as a defensible position that naturally aides in the defense of a position, while making attacks problematic.
      This supports your position of the stronghold not being needed to be a built up position.

    • @CountArtha
      @CountArtha 8 лет назад +1

      If you want me dead that badly, just mail me some anthrax.

    • @LB-ou8wt
      @LB-ou8wt 8 лет назад +2

      straight up death from alcohol poisoning from taking 250 shots.

  • @martinsgakke
    @martinsgakke 8 лет назад +15

    I think there is one thing missing from the definition. Not only castles must serve a military and residential pourpose, it also must serve as a political center. The lord or king didn't just lived, defended and lodged his army inside, it also neeeded great halls and rooms intened to perform audiences, meetings, feasts and negotiations related to political matters. Feudalism is very much a system where the personal and social lives of rulers were entangled with political structure of the realm, kingdom, etc.
    And even for centuries before the medieval era, throughout the celt, germanic and viking worlds, throwing feasts and providing plenty of drinking and entertaiment to a chief's warriors, along with loot and payment, was expected to maintain their loyalty, securing both military and political power in the chief's hands.
    So a castle must provide for the continuation of those traditions in the form of vassalage and the social rituals it requires.

    • @6272355463637
      @6272355463637 8 лет назад +2

      I don't agree that castles are necessarily feudal although I agree that for feudal societies castles are defined (partially) by their function as a manor or in a more general form that castles are supposed to project the right to rule.

    • @spartandragon392
      @spartandragon392 7 лет назад

      but that is completely different, a castle is a home. but would you were your full suit of armor as normal day clothes? no, you would not. Its similar to the white house. The president is supposed to live there and work there [ sometimes ] the white house is a center for military and political stuff as well as a home. Plus, a man in armor would suggest he is either a guard or he is going into battle soon. horrible horrible comparison

  • @dutchman7623
    @dutchman7623 5 лет назад +1

    Shadiversity, I admire your effort to explain what a medieval castle is.
    A part of my ancestral family lived in castles and they all looked different, size, style, function, building material, level of defense. It all depended on the period in which they started, position in the landscape, isolated or close to a town, sometimes in a town, money available, and above all how much support, and trust, they got from the one above them in the social ladder.
    And sometimes the classification of 'castle' depended on what the neighbors could build.

  • @MrCmoiquevla
    @MrCmoiquevla 7 лет назад +1

    As a french, I loved your prononciation of "château" (almost perfect, just... without the "r") x)
    Castle is indeed a very "toned/watered-down" word nowdays, used to designate anything with towers, so far that in french, we had to find a word to make the distinction and describe only authentic REAL medieval fortificated castles, and as you said, this word is "Château-fort"(we use also the ancien term "Castel" for the same definition. That's funny that finally, english and french folks use both the two terms, altrough "Castel" isn't very popular in France"). THANK YOU for clarifiying all of these terms, it was really well explained :)

  • @soundblast2602
    @soundblast2602 8 лет назад +2

    I have been researching medeival structures for 2 weeks now. I know that doesn't make me an expert, but I really wanted to clearify all these "interchangeable" meanings so I could explain the differences to my friends. This 15min video wraps up all 2 weeks of my research. Very well done! I could not have put it better myself!

    • @shadiversity
      @shadiversity  8 лет назад

      +Sound Blast I'm honoured, and your two weeks of research means you probably know more than 90% of the population, if not more, in regards to castles.

  • @historiculgeomocule5569
    @historiculgeomocule5569 5 лет назад +3

    Large luxurious dwellings can be divided into 3 major categories.
    The first is the castle. This can either be a medieval fortified dwelling, or a house constructed and decorated to look like a medieval castle. Examples include Warwick castle, the Alhambra, Neuschvanstein castle, etc.
    The second is the mansion, also called manor house, hall, etc. This is any large and luxurious house, no matter the architectural style. Examples include many southern American plantation houses, the homes of many celebrities and the houses of the aristocracy.
    A palace is the mansion of a high ranking government official, especially a monarch or dictator. If someone isn't a high ranking government official, his or her home can never be a true palace, no matter how grand it is! Examples of palaces include the White House, a mansion of the Kim family in North Korea, Fontenbleau, the Escoral, and the residence of the Pope.

  • @LordVltor
    @LordVltor 8 лет назад +18

    Shad, we want a Venn's Diagram about Castles, Chateaux, Fortresses, Mansions, Citadels and Strongholds!

    • @shadiversity
      @shadiversity  8 лет назад +8

      +Lord Ultor But that would take looking at every single castle ever built to see which ones qualified as a Chateaux, Fortresses, Mansion or Citadel, to have any measure of real accuracy at least 0.o
      My brain hurts even thinking about that, that or I'm thinking of the wrong diagram which is very possible. Never underestimate my stupidity!

    • @nikelsad
      @nikelsad 6 лет назад +4

      Here is my version 1 of the diagram! Link: ibb.co/h7UzcH
      Mirror: imgur.com/a/lHfP6

    • @gormauslander
      @gormauslander 4 года назад +1

      @@nikelsad ah, thank you

    • @vickybertos5717
      @vickybertos5717 3 года назад

      Shad, can you make a video about star forts? I was wondering if a star fort-shaped castle would be any good.

  • @lukasmisanthrop8557
    @lukasmisanthrop8557 8 лет назад +20

    castle stronghold fortress castle castle fortress stronghold WHO AM I. WHERE AM I. WHAT IS GOING ON.

  • @jackesioto
    @jackesioto Год назад +1

    Castle - A fortified dwelling (especially heavily gortified) from Europe's medieval period or Japan's feudal era. Also a house or mansion built to look like such a fortification
    Fortress - A defensive military structure, usually attached to a town or within close proximity.
    Stronghold - Any well fortified building
    Chateau - A French or French style castle or mansion, especially when in a rural area. Chateau can also mean the main building on a vinyard, even if it's a mere tent or shack.
    Citadel - A fortification in the middle of a city or town and may or may not have the palatial living quarters of the city's rulers.

  • @PaltryPete
    @PaltryPete 8 лет назад

    As a Dane with English as a second language I have had trouble using the right terms for the right buildings (especially when it comes to 'château', because we have a word for that in Danish). I am glad you fixed it with Theis video.

  • @BertGrink
    @BertGrink 7 лет назад +5

    Wow, I'm learning a lot on this channel, not just from the videos themselves, but also from the comments. I love it! :D
    Thanks, everyone.
    P.S. Greetings from Denmark

  • @LB-ou8wt
    @LB-ou8wt 8 лет назад +1

    I find this incredibly fascinating! Thank you for your video! And you're correct on your translations. Chateau, Chateau-fort, forteresse, palais, etc. Things translate pretty simply.

  • @AikanaroAnarion
    @AikanaroAnarion 8 лет назад +5

    Actually A medieval professor who is a friend of mine said to me that a Castle and a Palace are the two sides of the coin of the same structure. The castle being the exterior, intimidating part and the palace being the interior where the daily life takes place.

    • @Reichthoff
      @Reichthoff 3 года назад +1

      Castles are fortified palaces.:P

  • @stefanb6539
    @stefanb6539 8 лет назад +5

    I think the word "palace" also needs some specifications, as not every place that at least occasionally housed royalties would be a palace. Royalties could temporarily live in mansions, hunting lodges, etc..
    A palace would be a place, that is designed for conducting representative ceremonies. It needs at the least an audience hall/throne room and a grande entry hall and so forth. Usually one or several banquet rooms and guest rooms plus servant quarters and a kitchen plus storage rooms would be present, too, unless they were in separate buildings in the same complex.
    Actually living quarters for the royalty in question would not even be mandatory for a building to be a palace. The royalty plus family could very well live in a conveniently nearby mansion and just visit the palace to conduct state business.

    • @shadiversity
      @shadiversity  8 лет назад +3

      +Stefan B
      Very, very true, thanks heaps for sharing!

    • @JohanDanielsson8802
      @JohanDanielsson8802 8 лет назад

      What if a high ranked nobleman had all that stuff in his castle? Would it not qualify as a palace, because he was not royal?

    • @Reichthoff
      @Reichthoff 3 года назад

      Palaces are essentially mansions with administrative, but not necessarily military, functions.

    • @Reichthoff
      @Reichthoff 3 года назад

      @@JohanDanielsson8802 it would be called a 'stately home' or 'manor house', but wouldn't be identified as 'palace' which was reserved for very high ranking officials.

  • @striker8961
    @striker8961 3 года назад +2

    Video of a history buff explaining everything wrong with historical accuracy*
    The grammar nerds looking at the lack of commas in the title: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

  • @anthoselongstride8309
    @anthoselongstride8309 8 лет назад +4

    As he said, chateau translates directly into french as castle, the word fort is not the same as in english. The french word fort (the T is silent) literally translates as strong.

    • @shadiversity
      @shadiversity  8 лет назад +4

      +Anthose Longstride I didn't know that, thanks heaps for sharing!

  • @SolidRollin
    @SolidRollin 8 лет назад +9

    Castle, fortress, palace and chateaux have been used interchangeably for so long that they have become synonyms. There's a documentary series on Netflix named 'Secrets of Great British Castles' and even in that those terms are used for castles.
    Great video. I enjoyed it. Do you have a favorite castle from the medieval period? I've always liked the Krak des Chevaliers.

    • @JetConvoy
      @JetConvoy 8 лет назад

      I gotta watch that show!

    • @SolidRollin
      @SolidRollin 8 лет назад

      +Guyona Buffalo it's pretty good. Worth a watch.

    • @shadiversity
      @shadiversity  8 лет назад +1

      +Solid Rollin I SOOOO want to watch that series but it hasn't appeared on netflix over here in Australia, that or I haven't looked hard enough. I bet it's hiding!
      Oooh, do I have a favourite? It so depends on what I would be wanting. Would I want a massive castle that could protect an entire nation's border, or a personal castle that fulfils the needs of my lands? Until I think of the answer my favourite would be honorguard, the castle I designed, why? because I designed it ^_^

    • @TheHaighus
      @TheHaighus 7 лет назад

      Dover castle is probably my favourite. It is such a massive castle that has remained in use as a fortress all the way into WWII, with modifications of course. Very brutal look to it with the dark stone.
      Runners up would be Chateau Guillard, for the innovative shape, and Conwy, for the shear imposing density of it. Honourable mention to Montgomery castle because I live near it and it has one hell of a steep hill to walk up.

    • @Reichthoff
      @Reichthoff 3 года назад

      @@TheHaighus Chateau vincennes is the dover of france - eastern europe has malbork.
      They are 'alpha castles', of the largest sort which were the absolute worst to try to invade.
      My favourite is Poenari citadel, built by no less than vlad the impaler. It isn't gigantic, but its geography - located so high up on a steep cliff - rendered it practically invincible. Very dramatic location as well. A pity that it's only ruins now.

  • @quantustremorestfuturus5434
    @quantustremorestfuturus5434 8 лет назад +19

    French here, quite confused. :D

  • @JohnoPete
    @JohnoPete 8 лет назад

    cf. 8:29 Fantastic video. I would humbly offer that high ranking prelates often considered their large stone castle-like houses to be 'palaces' in addition to a residence of royalty.

  • @00Trademark00
    @00Trademark00 7 лет назад +2

    In German there are actually two words for châteaus and castles which are not interchangeable - "die Burg" means castle (btw Hamburg used to have a castle there, hence the name, although there is no castle there any more) and "der Schloss" means château (it also means lock). In Czech it is very much the same - "hrad" is the word for castle and "zámek" means both lock and château. I don't know about other languages. But while native English speakers seem to mix châteaus and castles quite often, native German or Czech speakers would probably not mix the terms, maybe because the words are both native and there is no confusion with one word just being a French term for the other. Also maybe because most English native speakers live in countries which have no castles or châteaus in them.
    Also, isn't it kind of similar with fortress and stronghold? Stronghold seems to be the Anglo-Saxon word for a fortress, which seems to have a French (and Latin) origin. Google says: Fortress from Old French forteresse ‘strong place’, based on Latin fortis ‘strong’.

    • @BiglerSakura
      @BiglerSakura 6 лет назад

      Not sure about the ethimology of "die Burg", but as for the Slavonic "hrad/grad/gorod" etc. they originally mean "a place encircled in walls" i.e. "a city".
      And where should we link another Czech term - Krumlov?

  • @Tutorp
    @Tutorp 8 лет назад +5

    A bit of nitpicking: the word "palace" is not only used to describe the residences of royalty* (or, more generally, heads of state - the White House could legitimately be called a palace), but also of certain other high-ranking dignitarys, notably bishops. See, for example, Lambeth Palace, the London residence of the Archbishop of Canterbury, head of the Anglican Church, or the Apostolic Palace, official residence of the Pope.
    Not all residences of bishops or royalty are palaces, though. The term requires a certain grandeur to the building and surrounding gardens.
    *not only the monarch, but also the immediate family of the monarch. The residence of a crown prince can also be a palace.

    • @montanus777
      @montanus777 8 лет назад +1

      and a palace also could have been the main residence building within a castle. at least that's true for the german term 'palast'.

  • @jlburilov
    @jlburilov 7 лет назад +1

    Nice to see one of the "castles" was from Slovenia. Maybe you could do a video on some of the most iconic or otherwise interesting castles from different countries and places. Maybe also highlight some of the differences and applications of different styles of defences and there uses and reasons for them.

  • @tiggytheimpaler5483
    @tiggytheimpaler5483 6 лет назад

    I actually got a chance to talk to an archeologist at my school (my major actually) that specialized in medieval history. we were both talking about building our own homes and said I wanted to build a castle or fortified manor house for a retirement/anti zombie bug out location. my initial design was far from a real castle, and he said the simplest way to keep it a castle is to follow the definition rule
    A castle is a self sustaining military installation designed to occupy your own land, not that of a conquered foe, where the commander and his men could live with their families.
    So in essence I would up designing my own zombie castle under those rules and it came out looking more like a castle than I thought it would lol.

  • @deadllama4622
    @deadllama4622 4 года назад

    For the french terms, to complete what has been said, "Château" is the residence of a lord. When it's fortified it becomes "Château fort", like said. "Palais" is used for an unfortified royal or imperial residence located in a city. For example, the Louvre was at first a "Château fort" and it became a "Palais" after the suppression of its fortifications. Other example, We say "Château de Versailles" because it is (or… it was) located in the countryside.

  • @garreswe
    @garreswe 8 лет назад

    Thank you, very informative!

  • @MenwithHill
    @MenwithHill 8 лет назад +2

    Agree with your definition. I think I'm gonna start using it.

  • @clintcarpentier2424
    @clintcarpentier2424 6 лет назад +1

    "Chateau..."
    Bless you.

  • @nadabutsi7537
    @nadabutsi7537 8 лет назад

    This is amazing, now i can finally learn some real facts about castles! Well done :)

  • @malaspuzvicalnakrpa
    @malaspuzvicalnakrpa 8 лет назад

    Wow, Slovenian Predjama castle at 6:38. Nice one with interesting history.

  • @muhammadhafizi166
    @muhammadhafizi166 4 месяца назад

    Thank you for this info . It's a very interesting topic for me and it helps me to create things like this in game :D. Now that i know the difference between these 5 type of building, it helps me to imagine it more better.

  • @rimefrostkitten
    @rimefrostkitten 5 лет назад

    A citadel is specifically a fortress which sits above a city.
    As we have a Kingdom of Castle forming the Kingdom of Spain with Aragon, 'castle' derives Arabic 'stronghold.' Feudal traditional fortress generally regarded pre-modern era regarding Jan Žižka and the naval carrier.

  • @ThomasGrillo
    @ThomasGrillo 7 лет назад

    Thanks for the video, and the architectural clarification. :)

  • @ggCA07
    @ggCA07 2 года назад +1

    I was wondering if Doneagle was a castle or not. Thanks for this video.

  • @kenm3209
    @kenm3209 6 лет назад +1

    To further explain the uses and parts of castles; Can you do a video on how to design your own modern day castle?

  • @daddyleon
    @daddyleon 8 лет назад

    Implicitly I already knew these things. But they made it crystal clear. I can sense the same annoyance in your voice as I feel when people say The Netherlands has (quite some) castles. It doesn't, a few chateau palaces, and the rest is mansions. Oh, we do have a few dwarf-forts from the Napoleonic era iirc, but I've seen no castles.

  • @quentindarbon5358
    @quentindarbon5358 7 лет назад +2

    it's fun for me (i'm french) because "château" is the french word for castle as u said, for castle we can just say "fort"(which mean strong- like stronghold) and "château" (i love the way u pronouce it even in the french way :P) is just a general term for the esthetic look of the constuction. so a castle (as u mean it) is a fort/château fort but a manor called château for u is actually a château too.
    over all : a castle is a "fort", stronghold is a "bastion" and citadel is "citadelle"............. Language barrier :D

    • @alfredorotondo
      @alfredorotondo 5 лет назад

      In italian is forte, cittadella e bastione

  • @geekinutopia5899
    @geekinutopia5899 4 года назад

    In order to look authentic medieval, a castle has to meet certain criteria
    Firstly, the ground floor windows can't be very big, especially if there's no outer curtain wall around the keep.
    Second, there should be a sallyport entrance with at least one portcullis. Entrances and other ground level openings would have been the most vulnerable.
    Also, there should be meticulations under at least some of the battlements. Preferably on the turrets or towers.
    Bonuses that aren't requirements include
    At least one courtyard, this protected outdoor space would have been valuable in the medieval period for growing food and getting water in case of a siege.
    A dungeon. Sure, you can't legally imprison or otherwise punish people for crimes anymore, those powers being monopolized by the government and all. But the fake dungeon can be an entertainment suite, possibly including a wine cellar, disco, bowling alley, indoor swimming pool, etc.

  • @thesamuraihobbit
    @thesamuraihobbit 7 лет назад +2

    I hate when people use the terms castle and palace interchangeably. No, a castle put emphasis on defense. It has several buildings, battlements, walls, towers, etc. A palace emphasizes luxury. It's generally just one big building with a fence around it serving as both the residence and the workplace of the monarch or president. Granted, a palace could technically exist within a castle, but they are not the same thing. Don't get me wrong, palaces are highly defended, but the main purpose of the palace structure is luxury.
    Speaking of which, is the Kremlin considered a castle?

  • @MikeeCZ
    @MikeeCZ 8 лет назад +1

    Agree with your definition, but this is mainly a shortcomings of English language, many other languages has disctintive words for each of the described that make the differentation very clear.

  • @csabanagyapati6149
    @csabanagyapati6149 6 лет назад +1

    thank you for teaching us french pronounciation as well :D

  • @Lundvalnaden
    @Lundvalnaden 7 лет назад

    one of the good examples of fortresses like 5:49 is the one in slavonski brod, croatia

  • @lightcitizen
    @lightcitizen 8 лет назад

    About the french distinction between "château" and "château-fort" (you can pronounce it as "shato for", btw), the interesting thing is that many of those "châteaux" were built during the Renaissance on pre-existing castles that were fonctionnal strongholds gone useless after the new and massive use of canons at war. If noble people couldn't be safe in these castles anymore, these nevertheless were their homes, so why not transform them into better places to live ? Towers and walls were covered, windows widened and many war elements were taken off, as moats or fortifications, leaving place for more places of entertainment and gardens. But even transformed, these homes had the same walls and the same shape than the previous castles, and people knew these places as "castles", so why change the name ?
    And a few generations later, some nobles were building manors that they called "château" just because of a fashion effect, plus some vague similarities with the "historical" castles. The use of the term vanished after the end of the french monarchy and is only used to name the buildings that were named as so before. It was too symbolic of the noble class and the monarchy to match with the republican's ideas and ideals.
    I think it's only after a long, long period of time that people started to separate "château" and "château-fort". By these times, none of these could really defend any place from canons, and had therefore lost their "stronghold" status, so there was no real reason to distinguish them except for their external aspects.
    Obviously, a "château-fort" would be safer than any "château" in case of a real armed conflict, as it would actually protect from any attack by foot soldiers, but this difference wouldn't hold more than a few hours with modern weapons and equipment.

  • @donjear2226
    @donjear2226 8 лет назад

    very good video. it is hard to classify some structures, as they were build when protection was still a factor, but not major. or they were truly full real castles that then at later dates (renaissance or after) at least parts of which were heavily remodeled to be more grand and open. I would add, on a castle's role as a home, it would have to be a multi-family home as there would be need for a good number of onsite support staff/servants. anything that housed the noble family only, i would not call a real castle, but a fortified home, which might be a sort of keep to a semi fortified town, too small/poor to build a real castle (as citadel, or to encompass the town)

  • @joelincz8314
    @joelincz8314 4 года назад

    :) a Frenchman will really disagree with decided that chateau is not a castle :) reading the comments I have to say I am likely wrong on this one as well. Thanks you Shad as usual you are right! (I know I need to learn to spell...it's late in my timezone and English is not my mother tongue).

  • @darthrevan3342
    @darthrevan3342 7 лет назад

    In French we use the term CHâtea AK castle for Renaissance Castle, the one that are super fancy looking. I mean without going to Louis XIV Palace Already François premier (the guy that said Ghotic architecture suck, can't blame him for this he did go to back from a trip to Rome when eh said this) build, they lightly fortified residence. And fortified is a big word. Many fOrt and foetresses were converted to confort house.

  • @Perforator2000
    @Perforator2000 8 лет назад

    Your videos have inspired me to revamp some of my settlements in Fallout 4.

    • @shadiversity
      @shadiversity  8 лет назад

      +Perforator2000 Awesome to hear, Good luck with it!

    • @fisadev
      @fisadev 8 лет назад

      +I am Shad and my minecraft mega structures too :)

  • @Rithkingwill
    @Rithkingwill 8 лет назад

    to think, about a year ago I spent hours and hours doing the research on all this myself to aid my worldbuilding... I just should've waited for you to upload this :P

    • @shadiversity
      @shadiversity  8 лет назад +1

      +Rith King Will Oh but research never goes astray, after all I'm very capable of getting things wrong.

  • @Roland3ld
    @Roland3ld 5 месяцев назад

    Here is the usual like, comment, and full watch for engagement.

  • @becharac
    @becharac 3 года назад

    5:27 and you could also find many fortresses along roman limeses (borders) in antic times, more than those star forts you showed

  • @The1Helleri
    @The1Helleri 8 лет назад

    I would amend the definition to appear as follows...
    A castle is any man made structure which at the time of it's construction could;
    1) Serve as a residence.
    2) Repel attack.
    3) Had a strategically significant location.
    I also think that if someone widens a few holes and installs some windows, that doing so doesn't automatically take away the structures castle status. It just makes it into a shitty castle for it's original purpose. But we have to consider that these structures are no longer used to repel attack from large forces for extended periods of time. The worst one can reasonably expect now is a home invasion.
    A home invader or even just a burglar would have to bring a ladder (and because of that probably a vehicle), Assuming they got to the point where the got up the ladder and got rid of enough of the window glass and frame to get in. They would still have to deal with security alarms, possibly a dog or two, residents who know the internal defenses of the structure they live in. And eventually the police.
    So I would say even with windows that they still serve their purpose. It's only that the circumstances have changed enough that castle can afford to be less secure.

  • @Baz1cTricks
    @Baz1cTricks 8 лет назад

    I have gained knowledge in this subject and I thank you for it shad! I enjoyed the names and terms vid too!

  • @GuitarsRockForever
    @GuitarsRockForever 8 лет назад

    I have learnt something. Good explanation.

    • @shadiversity
      @shadiversity  8 лет назад

      +GuitarsRockForever Wonderful to hear and thank you.

  • @markstrutzenberger
    @markstrutzenberger 3 года назад

    the fortresses Pass Strub, Steinpass and Kniepass in Salzburg are medieval fortresses which have never been castles in the sense that somebody lived there :)

  • @Gloin79
    @Gloin79 8 лет назад

    Well it has to be said that castle, château... derive from the latin word "castellum" which was more like a fortress, it was either an encampement or a fortified structure where one or more legions was garrisoned to defend certain locations or keep them under control

  • @CaribbeanHistory
    @CaribbeanHistory 4 года назад

    Hello from Puerto Rico. We have a strange hybrid and confusing definitions on our main fortresses in Old San Juan because of Spanish translations and definitions.
    Castillo - Castle
    Fuerte - Fortress
    Casa Fuerte - Stronghold
    Ciudadela - Citadel
    So the 'Castles' fit the bill entirely as Fortresses BUT even in their names, they're called Castles because of the term that you clearly mentioned of the national armies post-medieval @5:30
    In our case, the term Castle, Fortress and Citadel are synonyms. They're castles because even though they repelled invaders and no lord lived in them, the payment for their construction was totally by the monarch and the forts represented the power of the monarch as if he/she were there. but then you'd say "that means they are, by definition, fortresses" well yes, but no. They're official names are Castles even though they are fortresses. Are they Citadels? Yes. They are the military zones that protected the city of San Juan from the east and westward sides of the city and are connected by a wall that surrounded the city.

  • @STARS_Redfield
    @STARS_Redfield 8 лет назад

    I'm french and the way you said "Château" was funny :p
    I make the same kind of jolke when I have to "speak" german xD

    • @shadiversity
      @shadiversity  8 лет назад

      +Cáelmbleidd FOXHOUND Well we Australians have been butchering our own language for for years now it's about time the French got a taste ^_^

  • @Psychosgamers
    @Psychosgamers 8 лет назад

    very helpful video......and it would be more helpful and appreciated if u would make a table with all the characteristics of the different buildings in one place, so we could compare them side by side

  • @howardjohnson2138
    @howardjohnson2138 6 лет назад

    Well done. Thank you

  • @legerarts
    @legerarts 7 лет назад +2

    Sorry to bother you, but your definition also fits perfectly for walled cities :P

    • @stephanhartmann1128
      @stephanhartmann1128 6 лет назад +1

      This is according to the video when a citadel is a castle (ruler's residence) as well.

  • @markstrutzenberger
    @markstrutzenberger 3 года назад

    concerning chateaux - many of castles were also turned into palaces or chateaux - so that is another reason why they look similar quite often

  • @Nasandre
    @Nasandre 7 лет назад

    Hi Shad, great channel! Really enjoy watching the videos. I was wondering if you could do an episode about medieval fortified manor houses please? I looked up some pictures of them and they kind of look like miniature castles or keeps!

  • @marcelosilveira2276
    @marcelosilveira2276 8 лет назад +2

    is a 'panic room", or those "bunkers in case of fallout" castles? I guess they fit the definition

    • @marcelosilveira2276
      @marcelosilveira2276 8 лет назад

      +Marcelo Silveira and bunkers could be called fortress too, I guess?

    • @Nethan2000
      @Nethan2000 8 лет назад +2

      +Marcelo Silveira Agreed. Shad's definition is very flawed. A better one would be "fortified residence of a feudal lord".

  • @RL_Jansson
    @RL_Jansson 7 лет назад

    Summary:
    Castle: A fortified (and military) (royal) residence.
    Fortress: A fortified, military construction.
    Stronghold: A (fortified) construction offering security.
    Citadel: A castle or fortress being the centrall construction of a town/city.
    Palace: A (unfortified) royal residence.
    Château: A palace, built in the syle of a castle, for status "brandishing" purposes.
    (Fort Château: An actual castle, in French.)

  • @breaden4381
    @breaden4381 8 лет назад +1

    If ivy counts as an attacker, one of those castles isn't doing a very good job.

  • @manchagrandecollisto5912
    @manchagrandecollisto5912 7 лет назад

    To me, A castle is a medieval fortified dwelling with towers battlements etc Also I think a castle can also be a house or mansion built to look like a medieval fortification

  • @drdaintyshaw
    @drdaintyshaw 7 лет назад

    Thank you.

  • @D.Trinchuk
    @D.Trinchuk 4 года назад +1

    I played Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and now you've messed up my mind.

  • @guilhermerafaelzimermann4196
    @guilhermerafaelzimermann4196 7 лет назад

    a stronghold is easy to define
    if it has a portal to the end, it is a stronghold

  • @Reichthoff
    @Reichthoff 3 года назад

    Mansion - A big, expensive house.
    Palace - A big, expensive house with political functions.
    Castle - A big, expensive house with political and military functions.
    Castles are the best of the three. :P

  • @OnTheBackOfBullets
    @OnTheBackOfBullets 8 лет назад

    So I'm curious... Since you generally define a castle as a livable residence that can withstand a seige for an extended period of time... what exactly would you consider some of the residences of modern "preppers?"
    Those individual people or families that buy larger plots of land and build houses that almost double as compounds with facilities intended to be livable for the family for extended periods of time without outside contact, while also being easily defensible with modern weapons.
    It's really just a question of curiosity. I'm not a prepper, and my attitude towards those who are is largely apathetic. But in context of something like this, it is a valid question.

  • @frodrickfronkensteen9241
    @frodrickfronkensteen9241 5 лет назад

    Good video, as always.
    Suggestion... it'd be great to mention the actual locations you're featuring (photos) during the video (some of us like to go down the rabbit hole and research them). I know you do this, just not in all instances. The mountain-side stronghold... case in point.

  • @evanplanas
    @evanplanas 8 лет назад +1

    Love your videos Shad…idk if you take questions but your last few videos on castles got me thinking.
    First since actual castles had defensive and offensive structures like murder holes and arrow slits; how fantastical did these defenses get in reality. Games and movies and yes even cartoons have had castles and forts with all sorts of crazy and outlandish armament. And in a way, murder holes are kind of nuts. (Pouring boiling water or oil on people, even attackers, is frowned upon today) so did any have “crush” rooms, places where the walls or celling came in until the occupants were…um…dealt with. Or how about dead fall traps, and spikes on the bottom. I would imagine the more complicated and technical a contraption is would make it to difficult and impractical to execute; but I can see with some basic engendering skills, defense like these being at least somewhat valid.
    Secondly are there and historical accounts of Chateaus being sieged and taken rather easily due to their lack of defenses.
    Again love the videos.

    • @Nethan2000
      @Nethan2000 8 лет назад

      +evanplanas The portcullis is sometimes described as being used to crush the attackers underneath. I don't think lowering the entire ceiling is viable; it would need to be very heavy to prevent the would-be victims from just holding it over their heads and if it's so heavy, how are you going to stop it from falling until there's an attack? The spike traps are known as "trou de loup" or "wolf holes", but I don't think they were a permanent part of the defences; just some holes dug around fortifications with a stake on the bottom.

  • @Immortalcheese
    @Immortalcheese 7 лет назад

    If I hollowed out a cavern on the side of a mountain and lived inside of it, but had the exterior entrance fortified (basically a single gatehouse with flanking towers and murder holes behind the portcullises), would it be considered a castle?

  • @paoloemilioregno1576
    @paoloemilioregno1576 6 лет назад

    Chateau is then a castle like residence, and a chateau fort is an actual defensive castle. What would be the appropiate terms in Spanish and Italian?

  • @nealsterling8151
    @nealsterling8151 8 лет назад

    Nice Video and very informative!

  • @mrraziel4398
    @mrraziel4398 7 лет назад

    i love Carmarthen castle, thankfully i live in pembrokeshire so it's not hard to visit.

  • @neilwallace7860
    @neilwallace7860 4 года назад

    Hi I'm 3d digitally modeling Hesselagergaard Manor/Fortress on the Danish island of Funen. It had a completely encompassing moat. It has 1m thick brick walls on the front and 2m thick brick walls at the back. It has machiolations. It has two turrets? on each side that were open, without the current covers. It was always, and still is, owned and lived in by Nobles, and it was set in from the beach a couple of Kms so that the beach fishing towns people could run to it for safeguard if necessary. What would you say it is?

  • @Chief81
    @Chief81 7 лет назад

    Shad you should do a video on your top 10 favourite castles/keeps/medieval buildings.
    Have you ever played any of the Dark Souls games or Bloodborne? They have some fantastic looking buildings/architecture in them.

  • @wastedangelematis
    @wastedangelematis 8 лет назад

    4:11 i can hear a wisp from deep the old castle !

    • @shadiversity
      @shadiversity  8 лет назад

      +aggelos If by a wisp you mean the background sounds of my children, then yes ^_^

  • @giin97
    @giin97 6 лет назад

    You would love America. We have castles everywhere! (White Castle fast food joint :P)

  • @ColtDouglasMusic
    @ColtDouglasMusic 8 лет назад

    First! Victory is mine! HAHAHAHA!
    (By the way, Shad this is Kirito, I moved to a new channel)

    • @shadiversity
      @shadiversity  8 лет назад +1

      +Kjartan The Viking! Good to see you mate!

  • @krotenschemel8558
    @krotenschemel8558 8 лет назад +10

    Two thing, first 0:44 omg that's beautiful, I wanna live there, do the owner's have a daughter or so, I can marry? Second 3:27 ahh the Cloakwood mines south of Baldur's gate, such fond memories.

    • @shadiversity
      @shadiversity  8 лет назад +3

      +Kröte nschemel Oh yes the Cloakwood mines, I was thinking of that while editing this video. Good old Baldur's gate.

    • @fbmerc
      @fbmerc 8 лет назад +2

      +Kröte nschemel It's Burg Falkenstein in Obervellach, Austria and private property of House Fersterer from Saalbach. I checked facebook and could find a few Ladies of House Fersterer in marriageable age, yet can't confirm which one's heir of Burg Falkenstein. During the summer it's open for visitors, so that's your best bet.

  • @Merrsharr
    @Merrsharr 7 лет назад +1

    So, what do I call a castle-looking home when I do not know enough about historical defences to judge whether or not they are legitimate?

  • @tokaiju
    @tokaiju 2 года назад

    there's actually a medieval fortress right in the middle of my city, which is not a castle. Just a big circular defensible wall on a motte, where the city population could hide in times of distress.

  • @kylermoore9079
    @kylermoore9079 2 года назад

    Awesome video

  • @Tutorp
    @Tutorp 8 лет назад +2

    +Shadiversity What would you call a construction that originally fulfilled the requirements of a castle, but due to remodelling in later times no longer strictly fulfill them? I've seen several examples of complexes that were built as fortified homes, but as they continued to be in use well past the time of feudalism, well past the need for fortifications, had parts modified to be more home and less fortification, e.g. by adding larger windows instead of arrow slits.

    • @shadiversity
      @shadiversity  8 лет назад +5

      I would call them castle houses.

    • @robertfaucher3750
      @robertfaucher3750 7 лет назад +1

      Shad, would the White House be a castle?

    • @kutjanus1003
      @kutjanus1003 7 лет назад

      The white house is a villa, or a mansion ;)

    • @gunnar6674
      @gunnar6674 7 лет назад

      You could also call it a palace, since a head of state lives there.

    • @gunnar6674
      @gunnar6674 7 лет назад

      kut janus BRB Secret Service.

  • @dafrca
    @dafrca 6 лет назад

    I wish I new the source of some of the images you share. You have some great images. :-)

  • @giantantsu
    @giantantsu 6 лет назад

    Exellent video again, thank you.
    Do you know is in the German langue "schloss" and "Burg" the same difference between chatteau and castle?

  • @mikesmith8656
    @mikesmith8656 8 лет назад

    Another video Ygritte needs to watch.

  • @hamarbiljungskile8953
    @hamarbiljungskile8953 8 лет назад

    What's your opinion on the following locations:
    Mont Saint-Michel;
    Golubac;
    Predjama Castle?

  • @BiglerSakura
    @BiglerSakura 6 лет назад

    There are also châteaux where they make wine. So, another meaning of this word is "a winery".

  • @denismawe4394
    @denismawe4394 7 лет назад

    I used to live near an abbey that was a modified castle the inside or keep was pretty modernized and was originally built as a sort of chateau but the outer walls seem to still retain their defensive integrity, functioning as castle walls except for parts of the very top. So it exists as a sort of modern chateau while retaining its potential for defense. What would this be?