Why the Germans were OUTRAGED by Russian Waffen-SS Mass Violence in Warsaw during World War II
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- Опубликовано: 4 фев 2025
- This video is about Russian collaboration in World War II and focuses on the SS RONA, also known as the Kaminsky Brigade led by Bronislav Kaminsky. This unit's full name later became the Waffen-Sturm-Brigade der SS RONA and later it became known as the 29th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS RONA (1st Russian). They ruled over the so-called Lokot Autonomy (or Lokot Autonomous Region) which was under control by Konstantin Voskoboynik and after his death Kaminsky rose to power. They unleashed a reign of terror in the Lokot and later helped the Germans with crushing the 1944 Warsaw Uprising. Eventually the unit was merged into the Russian Liberation Army (ROA) under collaborating general Andrey Vlasov. During the Warsaw Uprising the Germans became angry with the conduct of Kaminski's unit. Therefore they took him out. But why were they outraged about this?
History Hustle presents: Why the Germans were OUTRAGED by Russian Waffen-SS Mass Violence in Warsaw during World War II.
Dirlewanger Brigade:
• The Dirlewanger Brigad...
SS-RONA (Kaminsky Brigade):
• Russian Waffen-SS: the...
Russian Liberation Army (ROA):
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SOURCES
- The Unknown Eastern Front. The Wehrmacht and Hitler's Foreign Soldiers (Rolf-Dieter Müller).
- Hitler's Russian & Cossack Allies 1941-45 [Men-at-arms] (Nigel Thomas).
- Joining Hitler's Crusade. European Nations and the Invasion of the Soviet Union, 1941 (David Stahel) The Soviet Union (Oleg Beyda and Igor Petrov).
- Russia's War (Richard Overy).
- Rising '44: The Battle for Warsaw (Norman Davies).
- The Forgotten Axis. Germany's Partners and Foreign Volunteers in World War II (J. Lee Ready).
- The Kings and the Pawns: Collaboration in Byelorussia during World War II (Leonid Rein).
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Dirlewanger Brigade:
ruclips.net/video/X2fm7rRsz4A/видео.html
SS-RONA (Kaminsky Brigade):
ruclips.net/video/SWRqCnwyQRQ/видео.html
Russian Liberation Army (ROA):
ruclips.net/video/rheJ8IjuyO0/видео.html
Hey could you cover the Baluch Regiment , It was a distinguished Unit in WW2 and WW1 serving under the British Empire , The Regiment had the honour of first Victoria Cross awarded to a British Indian Army Soldier in WW1 also Its not widely discussed but It was also praised by Paul Von Lettock Vorbeck for Its involement in East Africa During WW1.
@@gamerhashaam3343 perhaps one day.
@@HistoryHustle Thank you!
Just for a new video, look up William Toel, an american citizien, who revealed the last years the in bletchley planned ge oci e on germans committed by the allies (you) after war. You as an open minded history teacher should look this up and bring the truth to the people.
Gaat u ook onderzoek doen naar oorlogs misdaden van het idf ?
When even the SS say "Cool it", you know it's something grim
Crazy times.
Waffen-Gebirgs-Division der SS „Handschar“. Ook van die fijne jongens.
@@dukejohn2898SS "Kama" as well.
Stefan Bandera’s crew?!
@@LeadLeftLeon No, the Z Boys Grandpa's...
The Russians and other eastern nationalities who joined the Germans are a very interesting and tragic story. History is always very complicated. Thank you.
Thanks for replying Joe.
It's been said they had the choice of 'helping' or dying of starvation in the slave labor camps.
See my comment above.
@@nickmitsialis nonono they could either help or die, but if they helped they knew they would of been killed if germany lost... so thet chose the option that would get them killed later
I'd say...bull. There's always a choice, and sadly most people take the path of least resistance
Hey Stefan,
Dit is wat ik mooi vind aan dit tijdperk, tijdens mijn opleiding had ik een hekel aan meeste leerkrachten behalve mijn geschiedenis leraar.
Net als jou wist hij het altijd interresant te maken.
En nu als volwassenen met een passie voor geschiedenis vooral WO2 kunnen we nog steeds dingen leren.
En het mooie is dat meeste mensen tegen wie ik Bolt Action speel *WO2 tabletop wargame * hebben hetzelfde verhaal.
Bedankt dat je naast je werk ook nog dit doet.
Het wordt enorm gewaardeerd!
Super om te lezen, dank!
Dirlewanger didn't make it through 2 wars being brave.
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Highly educated and highly perverse
Dirlewanger had some serious PTSD since WWI.
He actually participated in 4 armed conflicts in total. The ones between WWI and WWII being suppressing German revolutions and then the Spanish Civil War.
To make things even 'funnier', another German butcher in Warsaw, Reinefarth was made a noble citizen of Germany after the war. He was mayor of the town of Westerland from 1951 to 1967 and a member of the Schleswig-Holstein Landtag from 1958 to 1967. I don't call him a "NAZI butcher" because Germany, of which he was an official, was supposedly denazified after the war.
As an anti-communist he had been appreciated by Western allies. No surprise, and business as usual in these days, as Poles and Soviets had massacred millions of people before and news had been spreading in the West in these days.
Wasn't this mostly a blame game though? With Kaminski shot in 1944 and Dirlewanger killed right after the war, it was easy for other German commanders post WW2 to attribute all the atrocities to these two. For example, there were some fairly detailed academic studies done in Poland in the 1960's or '70's that showed Reinefarth police battalions killed more civilians in Warsaw than these two renegade brigades. Incidentally, the same research suggested that the number of people killed in Wola/Ochota was much less than initial estimates (still substantial though, 25-30K).
Thanks for sharing your insights.
The Germans became less racially conscious as the war turned against them. My father was offered an aryanization certificate by the Germans. He turned it down.
Which country are we talking about?
@@DontKnow-hr5my he is a polac i guess from his name
Ideality and reality
@@nerminerminerminermi it is called Pole or Polish, you mor...n.
@@nerminerminerminermi I think his statement refers to the Germanization of the then occupied parts of Poland from June 1941.
For this purpose, Poles were divided into "Volksdeutsche" with German ethnicity, Germanized Poles and ethnic Poles. The latter were deported to the General Government as "unfit for integration".
After the war, the first two categories were accused of collaboration (although almost 80% of Poles submitted to this measure) and a lot of lies were told about the rejection of Germanization. It is still a sensitive issue today. Of course, I cannot say whether this is the case here.....
The best underrated history youtuber! Lover your content mate.
Many thanks, feel free to share.
I was already puting a "like" one minute after the start!
You always give us interesting, "off the beaten track" subjects. Thanks, Stefan!
When not busy teaching history or visiting the red light district, Stefan also enjoys drinking Grolsch beer, watching Rutger Hauer films, and listening to the music of Golden Earring.
Who can not like the music of "Golden Earring"? Even Germans as I have listened to it for more than 55 years now. And I still do.
@@dreamdancer8212 I agree. Great band!
Excellent video as always Stefan. Cheers from Tennessee
Wermaht killed btw 50 000 to 60 000 civilians in Wola massacre. In three days.
Incredibly brutal. Although most units involved in Wola were SS, not Wehrmacht.
Sir I enjoyed your video lecture immensely. I will await your your next video lecture.
Been a fan for a while, thank you so much for offering free in-depth documentaries while not being a total Nazi like a lot of youtuber's
who go as in-depth as you do!
Stephan, would love to see your suggested reading list. I’m very interested in memoirs of the everyday soldiers perspective of the European theatre. Thank you! Love the channel!
Sure an interesting topic for the future.
A lot of volunteers from Russia served in France and had been massacred by US Army, Canadian Army and Brits in the coarse of the allied invasion into France.
Thanks for sharing.
As one history teacher to another - thanks for an excellent video. I learned much, as usual, from you heartfelt yet objective videos.
Many thanks!!
Hey could you cover the Baluch Regiment , It was a distinguished Unit in WW2 and WW1 serving under the British Empire , The Regiment had the honour of first Victoria Cross awarded to a British Indian Army Soldier in WW1 also Its not widely discussed but It was also praised by Paul Von Lettock Vorbeck for Its involement in East Africa During WW1.
No mention of Stepan Bandera? The Ukrainian nationalist culpability in killing Polish jews, other Poles and Russians is an important chapter, and of especial relevence today.
Edit: I now remember that you did a separate presentation on this, but I still feel that Bandera should have been named here when you briefly mentioned Ukrainians among the assorted slavic collaborators with the nazis, since he was such a notorius leader.
Ukrainian nationalist sentiment and atrocities are still very much alive today, and the West should know the sort of regime it is supporting against the "oh so bad Russians".
Indeed, I covered Bandera in another video. It is true that Ukrainians served in the Kaminsky Brigade, but these were no nationalists (like Bandera) and more opportunists.
Another wonderful historical coverage episode shared by an amazing history Hustle channel and introduced by Sir Stefan 🙏
Thanks! Have a good weekend.
Kamiński was indeed shot for robbery. There is nothing to suggest that the failures of RONA had an impact on the verdict. Especially since later there were problems with this unit as well. And the commanders were not shot.
The Dutch MarkFelton
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Definitely just as obsessed with Hitler and the Nazis
RONA vs ROA. Shades of Monty Python.
Really makes you wonder if the right side won
Explain..
Jeez thanks bro. many details I never ever heard about. Think I have to reread all my stuff on the warsaw uprising.
Thanks for watching!
As you're aware, the Dirlewanger or Waffen "w"is pronounced as an English "v".
I see.
That's only in the movies dear
Good you bring things up what people are capable of. History will teach us nothing (Sting), but we must not forget.
History is a reminder, maybe a mirror?
worse than being a monster is being human...
You know it's bad when SS is like: 'Yo bruh chill a bit.'
Indeed.
"on few occasions germans were outraged" tell me you learned everything learned abt ww2 from allied post war propaganda without telling me you did. Germans were pretty much the most ethical people one could meet - as a civilian - on or behind the front/s and if you had taken the time to word for word read the individual witness testimonies from occupied nations (CIVILIAN witnesses) youd know that
Indeed. The people conducting their activities with the highest moral and legal standards become specifically the ones subject to the vast balance of the atrocity slander and the accusations of purportedly amoral behaviour, and so on, Absolutely typical of the human dog.
Great channel. And I am sure a great teacher. 👍🏻
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The accent always makes it more official when discussing european history.
I didn't know anything about this..!😮
Is it not the case that violence when committed by those 'in the club' is acceptable ... but those merely attached, not so much.
One sees this in 1% Clubs and their affiliates.
The human race is a deeply strange thing 😒
Hi to you Stefan 👍👍
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Hungarian Army on the Eastern Front also had both combat frontline tasks and rear anti-guerilla policing.
They were involved in up to 5000 civilians mass murder in the Russian Soviet Socialist Republic RSSR, Smolensk Oblast Region in 1943.
Mussolini too had established Socialist Republic of Italia RSI after the Kingdom of Italia capitulated on Sept 8th 1943.
It was not their sin, Horthy decided to join the war. They shouldnt have joined.
@@timeanagy8495
Sins of our grandfathers made to do something they didn't wanted to do by themselves.
One that kills has primary responsibility.
Quilt and sin can be separated in the war, soldiers are often not quilty , but bare a sin.
11:03 Dirlewanger is 50 or younger in his photo
Holy cow, war must age you !
Have you covered the Dutch-Waffen SS??
You bet!
You bet!
ruclips.net/p/PL_bcNuRxKtpH80zEWzRuvOVAc2C0M7C1V&si=zpQLIlcBwFn_rcOS
Great work History hustle.Very credible research
Thanks for watching!
Fighting in the east has always been a no holds barred affair between all participants .
It was a heavy fight.
Egregious and complicated.
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The Kaminski and Dirlewanger brigades were awful, but they were actually following Himmler's orders. The SS leader basically wanted ALL Poles killed. The two brigades basically set out to do just that, with the Kaminski one doing mostly looting instead of killing. Bach-Zelewski realized it was not practical, and the SS troops would run out of bullets anyway trying that! Bach-Zelewski almost seems like a decent guy in this uprising, but he had done numerous mass killings before. He basically got off easy after the war. "He did not serve prison time until February 1961, when he was convicted of the manslaughter of Anton von Hohberg und Buchwald, an SS officer, during the Night of the Long Knives"! (taken from Wikipedia)
Speaking of collaborators, any local celebrities or public figures on the the list released a few days ago?
Not that I know of.
Nice, maybe an interesting video would be hlinka guard emergency divisions 1944-45?
Perhaps one day, very niche topic actually.
According to Alexandra Richie in her excellent Warsaw 44, the German half of Kaminski was made up to please his masters.
Everyone was outraged and no one did anything.
See video to enhance your knowledge.
a lot of Ukrainians were helping Germans in Warsaw in military actions against Polish civilians
Yes, they served in the RONA I believe.
Ты не думай,УПа@@HistoryHustle
Many ethnic Germans in East Prussia were part Polish and/or Russian, so the idea of ‘inferiority Slavs’ is indeed ironic! Many Germans from Prussia had names ending with ski or sky in their family trees! One of my Prussian forebears was even from a Dutch family! :)
Well....Manstein parents were Kashubians (Polish).
This channel is propaganda nonsense
OstpruBen divided evenly North / South. The Southern half was majority Polish, 80%. Majority of these were Catholics - Mazurzy.
Because of Germanization = German Kulturkampf = deliberate destruction of everything Polish and Lithuanian, some of these Slavic families found it beneficial to accept German Propaganda. They accepted Protestantism, and were called Mazuren. Even so, they identified with Polishness.
Germans practiced Divide and Conquer techniques to reduce risks of uprisings.
As they did in Pomorze, naming the place West Prussia. Pomeranians and Kashubians became honorary Germanics. Thus a mind foook to distance the local population of Slavic tribes from other Ethnic Lech tribes to the South = Poznan / Silesia.
Dutch settlers in Poland = Olenders
Gdansk was the work of architects from Holland 17 C
@@metanoian965 Interesting information. Appreciated!
@@metanoian965 very informative. do you view Prussian, as German more or Polish more?
Very good. Thanks BZ
Till just recently several countries were still lobbying(to no avail) the Germans to stop paying SS members or their survivors, pensions. 2021 they finally released to the Dutch government the names of those still receiving payments.
That is so wrong. I cannot believe they pay those ******* ********. Wow.
@@HandyMan657 Look up HIAG
Very interesting information 👌 See also below
‘50 000 Russian auxiliaries (commonly known as Hiwis) collaborated alongside the Germans at Stalingrad. These Hiwi's made up 25 percent of all-nazi troops during the battle. Some units, such as the 71st and 76th infantry divisions had over 8,000 Hiwis each’.
These Hiwi's made up 25 percent of all-nazi troops during the battle? Math problem? Well over 1.000.000 axis troops were at Stalingrad.
Always funny how "the germans are known for their war crimes", yet no one else.😂😂
To be fair all of those others claim to be German because that’s their goal lol
@mikloridden8276 Well sure.
We are the ice on the cake.😁
Most of the general public think they know alot about WW2. But as soon as I start telling them what really happened. They are like that isn’t true. I say look it up. Then they are like I never knew that. It changes peoples mind about everything that went on with the Germans and WW2
German soldiers were also paid less than SS but were often times really superb fighters and the SS were just mean as hell and evil
First of all what are you talking about? Waffen SS or Allgemeine SS? Waffen SS were very capable fighters.
Crimea was under Romanian occupation. Locals were ok but when red army returned entire Crimean population was deported in Kazakhstan because they did not revolt against occupants and replaced with russian speaking population
Что было в порядке? Крымские татары и румыны с немцами убили в Крыму десятки тысячи тысяч людей. Так, в Симферополе за время оккупации были расстреляны, замучены-22 828 мирных жителей, в Севастополе - 69 866 человек, в Ялте - 11 707, в Керчи - 43 429, Евпатории - 12 598, Феодосии - 11 300 человек. Итого более 150000 человек, для справки население Крыма до войны было около 1,5 миллиона человек.
What about the banderites?
Covered in another video.
One thing I would like to see investigated is what happened to the ethnic German men living in Poland. I assume that as Polish citizens they would have been drafted into the Polish army. But what happened after the Germans occupied Poland?
I'm sure they were then drafted into the Wehrmacht, being ethnic Germans (Volksdeutsche).
Good to know, but still, incomparable with true genocide committed by Ustasha from Croatia.
See:
ruclips.net/video/gcJWOoNamZA/видео.html
@HistoryHustle Thanks, i saw that video, great work, but i think i was protesting already, since i thought that characterizing genocide as mass murder, war crimes etc. was not sufficient enough, and that it was leading to downplaying of its horror and significance.
The term Genocide is legally defined by international law. We can discuss whether this definition makes sense or whether something was genocide (i.e. fell within the scope of the agreed definition or not). However, I do not see the point in your post in which the crimes of the Ustasha become some kind of standard.
To make it more interesting, it is the other way around - it is the policy of the Nazis in the occupied Polish lands that is the source of this concept, as created by its author, Rafal Lemkin.
If we are talking exclusively about the crimes of RONA, it can be argued that they were horrible war crimes but not genocide as their motive was not the destruction of an ethnic group but more primitive impulses.
@@piopTo quote author of video in 0:17 "Nazis... were displeased with Ustashas... violence in Yugoslavia", and continue to narrate that there were other occasion of "displeasement" during the war, that is with RONA - in a sence, puting them in a same cathegory as Ustashe. That, on the one hand, for obvious reason of different level and motives of crimes is not right, and on the other, it downplays as i said horror and significance of genocide that Ustasha committed. To put that in simmilar perspective - you wouldn't say "Nazis committed crimes in Auschwitz and in Brussel during WWII". Technically it's true, but still...
@@ivancertic5197 Of course, it is fine if both acts fall under the same valid and well-described category, even if they differ greatly in other capacities. The idea that "it downplays as I said horror and significance of genocide that Ustasha committed" is absurd and wrong, I reject this type of reasoning, history is not the game of victimhood.
Not to mention that the crimes committed against the civilian population of Warsaw were enormous and horrible, this is not the occupation of Brussel.
The warsaw uprising gets some heavy nuances here, looks like it was not the free for all massacre by Satan himself that I thought it was until now. I missed something.
It sure was hell, for those poor victims, absolutely. But there are some slight nuances. Overall the German occupation and crack down can be seen as morally wrong.
@HistoryHustle yes as they killed innocent civilians including children (I have to read more as I thought it was entirely a clear genocide of Jews)
Stefan once again you have widened my knowledge on important details that give light between these two countries!✌🏻🫶🏻
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Stahell Luftwaffe General. Had past in Von der Goldiz east sea division.1918 he d-day Finland and drove Red rebellion supported by red troyka out of Finland.
He stayed in F. Took passport too. (Baltic Iron division? 1920’s??) back Reich 1930’s out infantry and Luftwaffe.. soviet-ger secret armament…
I didn't give this video a down-vote, but I found it a bit difficult to stay engaged. I'll come back, and give ya another go, but I think your style's not a good match for my brain. No biggie! I still wish you all the best!
Some of them were NKVD double agents as per Abwehr and Fremde Heer Ost.
Interesting.
Some Russians still have a fascination with German culture. Wagner was named after Adolf’s favorite composer. A handful of Russian military are indeed n@zees. EUkraiNato has its share of n@zees too
dont forget the Z symbol
There is a lot of german blood in Russians.
@@TheStudio-div Zorro? :))
Rather ironic that there wasn't similar outrage among Allied commanders when the Marocchinate occurred n Northern Italy after the Monte Cassino battle. I understand these Goumier units would later carry out similar atrocities n the Back Forrest region of Germany in 1945. In the case of Kaminski it sounds like Russians will be Russians regardless of uniform, and this is one of multiple examples that the Wehrmacht did not tolerate such discipline eroding conduct. In the Red Army those who protested atrocities risked the gulag.
В Красной Армии, те кто совершал зверства расстреливались перед строем, в отличие от Вермахта, иначе бы от немцев как от народа не осталось бы ни одного человека, так как Красная армия поступала на столько милосердно, на сколько это было возможно
Kaminsky was half polish , half german.
But other ethnicities did that on Russian land, SS was no place for saints.
No saints indeed.
Thanks Stef for another excellent piece of work.I know a lot is written of Andrej Vlasov, how many Soviet generals defected to the Germans? Also , as an Irishman, I'd love to see you cover the IRA working with the Germans
And get a pretty uniform.
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They made their bed now they lie in it
Russians, Ukrainians and Azeris.
The Azeri collaborators committed crimes too in Warsaw yes.
Doorgaan Stefan , altijd interessant !
Russen de boel leegroven ? We zien het tot vandaag in Ukraine.
Hebben zich niet verder ontwikkelt als volk lijkt het.
Onzin .. cap er mee aub
En met je - niet verder ontwikkelt als volk - klinkt als nazis zicht op andere volken
The Devil you know
Kaminski... with a POLISH mother and a GERMAN father, that doesn't make him a RUSSIAN ! at the most was he a Soviet !
Wondering if your video here is not politically motivated by current geopolitical events ... 🤔
I think he identified himself as Russian, also his unit was named 'Russian'.
kaminski brigade was made up of east slavs!
@@HistoryHustle извините, но он мог себя назвать хоть папуасом или инопланетянином, но он не русский, Власов был русским, к сожалению он мой земляк, он родился в соседней деревне, что и мои предки
@@СергейТурутин-ч6гhe had a soviet passport
Yes, He was Russian. Born, raised and educated in Russia as a Russian citizen. His father wasn't even German.
If your view of NS ideology contradicts the actual realities observed in the Third Reich, maybe your idea of NS ideology is wrong?
Indeed.
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Linz
Linz?
The pot calling the kettle black
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The lesser of two evils
imagine being outraged by having done to you what you've done to others
❤τοσοι φανταροι χρησιμοποιηθηκα τοσω σπερμα που θαδινε μωρα και χαρα στους δυο γονεις απο την νηφη και τον γαμπρο..κιομως σκοτωθηκαν😮😮😮
Huh??
When the Nazis invaded, the people of USSR welcame them as liberators and even ready to fight by their side, but they blew it away due to Mein Kampf mentality.
SS RONA leader - Bronislaw Kaminski was a Polish Nazi-collaborator, not Russian.
Каминский был советским гражданином и русским национал-социалистом. У него никогда не было польского гражданства.
Half Polish half German leading a unit he named Russian though.
He considered himself Russian. He joined the Red Army and Communist Party.
@@rafamieczkowski9913 не притворяйся, что не понимаешь о чём речь. Речь об этнической принадлежности, а не гражданстве. Среди советских коллаборантов было много разных национальностей, в том числе те, которые влились в свои национальные части СС и их нельзя назвать этническими русскими, будь-то армяне, грузины, калмыки, латыши или ещё кто-то. Полякам просто не дали создать свою часть СС и всё
@ Ни сам Каминский, ни его отец никогда не были гражданами Польши. Когда Польша возродилась, они выбрали Россию. Для нас, поляков, это русские собаки. И именно так думал о себе Каминский, когда создавал русские фашистские формирования и убивал поляков (и не только поляков). С таким же успехом можно было бы написать, что Эйзенхауэр был немцем.
kaminsky who was a Pol committed war crimes against Pols . Doesn't sound extrange to me, the Pols were liberated by the Russians from the Germans and they never the less love and fold to the Germans and hate the Russians to death . I only can conclude the Pols Grand mothers enjoyed the German occupation more than the Russian Liberation
The Soviets were not liberators, they were occupiers. Remember, they invaded Poland at the same time Germany did.
First of all, it wasn't liberation but changing management. One totalitarian regime was replaced by another one. Secondly, Russians weren't as bloodthirsty as Germans but they commited countless crimes that they don't want admit to this day. Postwar Germany acknowledged its crimes and changed while Russia remained unmoved in glorifying criminals.
1/ Russia attacked Poland as an ally of Germany. The USSR then occupied, in the same way as the Reich (isn't it?), half of the territory of Poland. Could this plays any matteres? ;)
2/ The USSR liberated the part of Poland - this occupied (once upon a time) by its former ally. But he, somehow, forgot to ... return the rest.
3/ Before the USSR got involved in liberating some Poles, it used, some of the other, like common enemies of People's Freedom and class equality - some as targets for e.g. Walther 7.62s, some others as cheap labor resources i in regions of many woods, very fresh and sharp air, or gold-rich rivers, mines ect. There are families in Poland that did NOT lose anyone at the hands of the Germans, but at the hands of the Russians they did.
4/ The liberation process itself have a long chapter in the common history of Poland - as a time of fear, violence, fire, r... pes and robberies. Really, not without reason. And maybe that's why "Polish mothers"... "more than". Because it is a subjective matter whether the plague is worse or cholera.
5/ After the end of World War II, Germany became neighbors - and it is not true that specially "beloved" by Poles.
6/ ... and at the same time the USSR remained on Polish territory with its army, as a de facto occupier. And for 40 years he forced people to call him "friend."
7/"Kamiński was Polish." (half Polish, to be precise).
So:
Was Catherine the Great Russian or German? And the Windsors? Are they German or British?
And Marshal Rokossovsky? The same Pole as Kamiński.
Nationality is a matter of self-identification, not blood.
@@ypabloworld Russians did expand their territory in Balkan and invade part of Romania, they only stop when they lost to Finland.
This is a tno portrait lmao
@@SteamyShukshee tno?
@@HistoryHustle fanmade modification "The New Order" for a ww2 strategy Hearts of Iron 4 game where axis won ww2
Russian or rather Ukrainian Waffen-SS?
Ukrainians were in their midst although they served in other units.
Russian like wlassovs unit
Russkaya osvoboditel'naya narodnaya armiya. Russian Peoples Liberation Army. Unless of course you think all the land of Russia is really Ukrainian then it was a Russian unit.
@@tgapete01 I am not too sure what you're moaning on about? how would you even come up with a BS like "..all the land of Russia is really ukrainian.."
What type of crap is that??? Are you some ukro-banderite with UPA flags outside your house to write this type of BS on the internet?
Do I have to explain you that Crimea and Donbas have always been Russian speaking lands? Wolhynia and Lwow regios were native Polish, and the same way Zakarpattia should be Hungarian and Bukovina Romanian, as it used to be.