The 5 secrets of Chinese table tennis to correct your forehand topspin technique.

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  • @giovannimalca9175
    @giovannimalca9175 2 года назад +17

    Very informative video! I wonder if you could do a similar one for chinese backhand flicks (like Fan Zhendong or Zhang Jike).

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  2 года назад +7

      Thank you very much dear for your comments, we will take your suggestion, blessings of the Lord Jesus Christ.

  • @user-jy2sz1jr9p
    @user-jy2sz1jr9p 2 года назад +9

    I concur that the perpendicular force of the partial impulse force of the inertial rotation is effective in imparting the motor functional force of the generated acceleration path, but on the point of parallel amplitude tangential velocity of linear movement, I must say that it is the curvi-linear orthogonal characteristics of rotational movement of the axis of rotation of accumulated mass of the rotation of the bio-mechanical closed kinetic movement.

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  2 года назад

      I agree that the perpendicular force of the partial momentum force of the inertial rotation is effective in imparting the motor functional force of the generated acceleration path, but at the parallel amplitude tangential velocity point of linear motion, I must say which is the curvi -Linear orthogonal characteristics of the rotational movement of the axis of rotation of the accumulated mass of the rotation of the biomechanical closed kinetic movement.
      Hello dear, thank you very much for the comment, the amount of angular movement will be the main purpose to look for greater tangential speed, which will depend a lot on the axis of rotation that is set, which could be on the opposite foot to that of the hand with the racket, which in the end is the widest we can achieve by the natural moment of inertia of the body. Blessings from the Lord Jesus Christ.

    • @hangoquy9087
      @hangoquy9087 2 года назад +1

      Dich

  • @O.ttakyu
    @O.ttakyu 3 года назад +8

    Thank you for the insightful explanation, I was able to apply this method into my training today, I immediately felt the difference in terms of overall power, spin, accuracy, consistency, footwork, and reaction time. I was also able to relax more on my upper body.

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  3 года назад +3

      Dear, thank you very much for your comment, that is the idea to make adjustments in the mechanics of the movement, not only to optimize it, but also to prevent injuries. The Lord Jesus Christ bless you.

  • @fortitude1208
    @fortitude1208 8 месяцев назад +1

    One of the best videos and i watched thousends. Thanks

  • @Ba_Thao_Experience
    @Ba_Thao_Experience Год назад +1

    Great technique, great video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @vejlkoo
    @vejlkoo Год назад

    This video is so good, please do more on chinese technique and everything else that chinese players do. Thank you so much continue with your work and dont ever stop! ❤

  • @nishanbhattarai007
    @nishanbhattarai007 3 года назад +14

    Seemed more like a science class than a tt video. Hahahaha. Nevertheless. Thanks and kindly keep teaching us more about the Chinese techniques

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  3 года назад +4

      Thank you very much for commenting dear, we seek to mix both passions, table tennis and the simple science of biomechanics, to understand its application and above all, what differentiates us from these Chinese table tennis players. Blessings of the Lord Jesus Christ

  • @silaturahmitenismeja1901
    @silaturahmitenismeja1901 2 года назад +1

    genious explanation from genious player

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  2 года назад

      Thank you very much dear for your comment. The Lord Jesus Christ bless you

  • @charliethewanderer6872
    @charliethewanderer6872 Год назад +1

    Good information, but pictures are not clear of what are the intend to show ?

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  Год назад

      Good information, but the images are not clear of what they are intended to show.
      Hello dear, thank you very much for your comments. If you can give me an example it would be great to improve. Blessings from the Lord Jesus Christ.

    • @charliethewanderer6872
      @charliethewanderer6872 Год назад

      @@ttblab First few examples are very clear. But example #4 - Straight Trunk, Front edge tilts up, Rear edge tilts down. How are those pictures related to the human body positions ?

  • @WhiteKnightPoet
    @WhiteKnightPoet 3 года назад +3

    What are the approximate BAT ANGLES and ARM MOVEMENT ANGLES that you use for your OPENING LOOP against HEAVY BACKSPIN? And how do these same angles compare to the BAT ANGLES and ARM MOVEMENT ANGLES you use for your COUNTER-LOOPS against HEAVY TOPSPIN?

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  3 года назад +1

      Hello dear, thank you very much for your comment,
      The angle of the upper limb to guarantee its optimal performance, whether against a backspin ball or not, is close to 180 degrees on the elbow joint, but what must be taken into account is the most important thing, is that the arm segment with with respect to the body or trunk, be close to 90 degrees.
      The difference between the two is the contact on the ball from above or through the front geometric center.
      and the angle of the racket will also determine its speed. blessings of the Lord Jesus Christ

    • @WhiteKnightPoet
      @WhiteKnightPoet 3 года назад

      ​@@ttblab Actually, what I meant was, "What is the precise angle of the BAT ITSELF (NOT the ELBOW) at the very moment of ball contact during a forehand loop against heavy backspin?
      So you will understand my question better, in my opinion, the BAT ANGLE is the angle of the bat to the ball during ball contact compared to a horizontal angle of zero° and a vertical angle of 90°. During a forehand loop against BACKSPIN, the BAT ANGLE is often about 45°, whereas during a forehand loop against TOPSPIN, the BAT ANGLE is sometimes as low as 30°. However, the ARM STROKE ANGLE (that describes the angle of the BAT'S FORWARD and UPWARD vectors in space) during a loop against backspin is often between 45° to 60° to help LIFT the BACKSPIN ball over the net. But the ARM STROKE ANGLE during a forehand loop against TOPSPIN often involves a more forward vector and so the ARM STROKE ANGLE during ball contact of a loop against TOPSPIN is often as low as 30°. In summary, in my opinion, for a loop against BACKSPIN, the BAT ANGLE is often about 45° and the BAT MOVEMENT ANGLE (the angle of the arm and therefore the bat moving forward to the ball) is often between 45° and 60°. But during a counter-loop against TOPSPIN the BAT ANGLE is often as low as 30° with a BAT MOVEMENT ANGLE often as low as 30° as well.
      So, going back to my original question, in your opinion,
      "What are the approximate BAT ANGLES and ARM MOVEMENT ANGLES that you use for your OPENING LOOP against HEAVY BACKSPIN? And how do these same angles compare to the BAT ANGLES and ARM MOVEMENT ANGLES you use for your COUNTER-LOOPS against HEAVY TOPSPIN?
      And may God bless you and your family both now and forever more in his kingdom of heaven.

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  3 года назад

      Hello dear, the optimal angle of the racket in the forehand topspin of linear speed is zero degrees and angular speed is 90 degrees, leaving those two parameters more than 8 degrees happens to make a mixed hit. topspin and it says side spin .

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  3 года назад

      Hello dear, the optimal angle of the racket in the forehand topspin of linear speed is zero degrees and angular speed is 90 degrees, leaving those two parameters more than 8 degrees happens to make a mixed hit. topspin and it says side spin .

  • @404indians
    @404indians 3 года назад +6

    The ideas are great, thanks. I have problems understanding or digesting some of the physics described here. I suggest you slow down a bit or try to explain some of the ideas in more than one way so that we could see them more clearly. Trying to use real life examples to illustrate the theories of physics would also help. For example: a hammer with a longer handle would deliver my force on the nail head than a hammer of the same weight but with a shorter handle. I am sure you would find better examples than me.
    Once again, thanks.

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  3 года назад +3

      Hello dear, thank you very much for the comment, I will take it into account to help better say the physics in each video, and thank you for the suggestion from the everyday to the scientific. Lord Jeuscript bless you.

    • @fortitude1208
      @fortitude1208 8 месяцев назад

      Nice explenation. Thanks

  • @zizo015
    @zizo015 3 года назад +2

    I don't understand the 4the point. I can't see how the trunk is vertical or 90 degrees to the horizontal(surface of the table). How can you put the weight on the right foot where keeping the trunk vertical? It's impossible.. I also do not see that the Chinese player in 03:02 in the preparation of the stroke ist doing this. His trunk is about 45 degrees.. Could you explain more? Thanks

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  3 года назад +1

      Hello dear, thank you very much for the comment, to analyze the segments, in this case the trunk segment, its angle is measured with respect to the imaginary horizontal line, to guarantee the optimal angle close to 90 degrees, it is measured from the center of the hips up to the seventh cervical with respect to the horizontal straight line, tilting to the right or left prevents optimal rotation.
      the Chinese player if it is as close to the vertical, what happens is that the calculation vision is not the one seen in the image, since for this a 3d study must be done.
      Blessings of the Lord Jesus Christ

  • @ryanpeters2467
    @ryanpeters2467 3 года назад +5

    I love the idea of this channel... thanks for your effort. Subscribed 😊

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  3 года назад +1

      Thank you very much for your comments, we are here to serve and help, blessings of the Lord Jesus Chris

  • @sadikijeje4161
    @sadikijeje4161 3 года назад +1

    So much detail in your videos 🔥😮

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  3 года назад

      Hello dear, thank you very much for your comment, yes, we try to analyze in detail what the differences are to evolve. The Lord Jesus Christ bless you.

  • @mirceapopjoe6125
    @mirceapopjoe6125 2 года назад +1

    Nice one!

  • @Table-Tennis-INDIA
    @Table-Tennis-INDIA Год назад +1

    I love your channel ❤️

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  Год назад

      Hello dear, thank you very much for your comment. We seek to help and spread our experience. Blessings from the Lord Jesus Christ.

  • @badbreathdunghead2683
    @badbreathdunghead2683 2 года назад +2

    ur English pronunciation is so clear to understand... good job

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  2 года назад

      Thank you very much for your valued comment. every day we seek to support and improve our table tennis. Blessings from the Lord Jesus Christ.

  • @user-js6cb9kl6v
    @user-js6cb9kl6v 2 года назад

    very good
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    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  2 года назад

      Thank you dear,

  • @yanatimina6085
    @yanatimina6085 2 года назад +1

    Very nice video! Please, us it possible to talk little more slower and more explane😆😁

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  2 года назад +1

      Thank you very much for your comment, surely we seek to do better every day. Blessings from the Lord Jesus Christ

  • @z0uLess
    @z0uLess 2 года назад +1

    this makes my knees hurt, because you have to rotate on the ball of your foot at the same time as putting weight on the foot. my hips dont like to rotate like that because I am a runner. also, much strain is put on the lower back when you are 187 cm tall like me. watch the videos on my channel to see examples of me playing. I have played table tennis for 4 months.

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  2 года назад

      Hello dear thank you very much for your comment, definitely if you do not have the early preparation, this blow and gesture on the ball cannot be done like this. the first stage of teaching, rotation on the ball is sought, and the work is done only with the upper limb, for this I recommend you watch the videos of my daughter that I am posting and from there you can be guided to better learn this blow, for On the other hand, I saw your videos and there are some details in your execution. blessings of the Lord Jesus Christ.

  • @kioka2
    @kioka2 3 года назад +1

    Nice vídeo man!

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  3 года назад

      Hello dear, thank you for your comment, many blessings from the Lord Jesus Christ

  • @ttblab
    @ttblab  3 года назад +2

    If you want a specific topic, comment

  • @kdgr
    @kdgr 3 года назад +1

    🏓👍

  • @marcelmmarcelm6200
    @marcelmmarcelm6200 Год назад +1

    this is japaner not chineser

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  Год назад

      Hello dear, fan zhendong is table Chinese player, not a Japanese player, sorry, you must see more videos of elite players. Blessings

  • @purpose6113
    @purpose6113 2 года назад +1

    Didnt understand a thing 😂

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  2 года назад +1

      Hello dear, thank you very much for your comment. There are other simpler videos that can help you understand a bit of the mechanics of the movement. Blessings from the Lord Jesus Christ.

  • @z0uLess
    @z0uLess 2 года назад

    Is this video generated with AI?

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  2 года назад

      Hello dear, thank you very much for your comment, the video is not generated by artificial intelligence, hahahaha, I wish there was that tool today. On the other hand, we are in a channel of biomechanics applied to table tennis, therefore you will get vocabulary according to applied mechanical physics. Blessings of the Lord Jesus Christ.

  • @chiangchengkooi9791
    @chiangchengkooi9791 3 года назад +1

    Just my opinion. Chine player forehand movement only can be optimise with Chinese rubber, which is more tacky compare to European and Japanese rubber.

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  3 года назад +2

      Hello dear, thank you very much for commenting, you are correct in what you write, however with the hardness that Japanese rubbers have been increasing, this type of mechanics can also be used. Blessings of the Lord Jesus Christ.t.

    • @onkelphil924
      @onkelphil924 3 года назад +1

      U still need an extrem fast movement. Without u can't get activated the chinese rubber... Even if your movement is correct.
      Also I think these movement get used by almost every Pro and amateur enthusiast with certain skills, chinese player has just a faster and harder movement. And still most of them prefer non-tacky rubbers because it is very hard to get anything out of it, despite of the costs of those rubbers. u have boost a lot and therefore it's a) illegal and b) U can throw away them every 4 weeks...
      Therefore if I have to chose a tacky rubber I would chose bty Dignics 09c which is out of the box(without boosting) way faster und more reliable/consistent...
      Only would go back for Hurricane if I would get the pro version (and some pro skills =D)
      I gave it up with the tacky surface... My technique is good, but my muscles aren't fast enough...^^

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  3 года назад

      Hello dear, thank you very much for your comments, the Chinese biomechanics is not yet replicated by another nation, for that the same rubbers are placed, it must be improved, which is based on acceleration and not on force and less mass.
      Therefore, we place these analyzes to open a little the vision of what the biomechanics of these Chinese table tennis is remarkable. The Lord Jesus Christ bless you.

  • @z0uLess
    @z0uLess 2 года назад

    haha, I know complicated words

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  2 года назад

      Hello dear, thank you very much for your comment, we are in a channel of biomechanics applied to table tennis, therefore you will get vocabulary according to applied mechanical physics. Blessings of the Lord Jesus Christ.

  • @ngocnguyendinh9984
    @ngocnguyendinh9984 3 года назад +2

    Talk too much in theory . This kind of lecture is very less effective

    • @ttblab
      @ttblab  3 года назад +1

      Hello dear, thank you very much for your comment. If you do not know the theory and conceptualization, it is more difficult to interpret the numbers, many of the problems of the technology is that it is subjective, which means interpretation to experience and not to science, Everything is and will be progressive, and the most important of all, is that the one who teaches only speaks, the most important thing is the will of the one who receives, who wants to learn.
      Blessings of the Lord Jesus Christ

  • @dj1jesus375
    @dj1jesus375 2 года назад +1

    What the hell? :D