Inside Russia’s Woolly Mammoth Tusk Trade
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Climate change is causing Siberia’s permafrost to thaw. It’s a growing environmental problem, emitting greenhouse gases, damaging buildings and creating vast craters in the landscape. But it's also revealing an ancient treasure - the tusks of woolly mammoths.
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@@1_1__1_1залупу на воротник
Постановка, русский солдат не тронет мирных жителей, всу фашисты
The title of this video feels like it comes from a parallel universe where woolly mammoths never went extinct
Dude you don't even fking know what's buried in your garden.
Facts
Isn't it crazy that we can't shoot elephants for tusks (which I completely agree with!) but these really rare tusks of an extinct animal, meaning there is a small, finite amount, are allowed to be dug up and carved for someone to hang in their house?
I'm genuinely surprised this is a thing.
Puff puff pass
I was just thinking the same thing lol
Um.. Shouldn't we be worried about that whole "permafrost contains viruses and diseases not yet identified by science" and these people are just in a badly-ventilated and humid cave waiting in direct exposure for them to melt 😭
The tusk of elephants! 😂
Humans are weird as hell.
Agreed. I think about how strange we are all the time
Wait till you learn you are one of them.
compared to who? other humans?
Fr
How so?
"It's nothing serious, just a fracture." A true Russian
😂😂😂😂
Right, for Russians "serious injury" usually means when you cannot fully recover.
I knew I would definitely find this comment here in comment section.
He did warn everyone, nobody will win this war
actually he didn't say "just fracture" He said one word "fracture"
Seeing fossils being blasted and destroyed like that is so sad, we’re still researching and finding so much and now it’s being just being washed away, who knows what secrets could have been uncovered.
Ehh it’s just WM Tusks.. I mean who else is gonna dig into them tunnels and get em???? NOBODY. 😂 I mean it’s sad cuz it’s history, but everybody’s gotta make a living… people have families.. they just do what’s best for them and their family sometimes even if they don’t want to 😔
And also I mean it’s saying some of these guys literally are donating some of these things for science…. FREE… ZERO DOLLASSSS!
@@codymorgan9512 they should be donating 100% of the things they throw away.
Fossils arent blasted away, fossils remain, only tye ground does
True but no-one cares enough to fund any scientists to go there. So if the hunters weren't there it would just all be undiscovered. Capitalism :)
Your guy has a pretty great Russian pronunciation. You should be proud of him.
Так грамотно все и чётко, он вообще молодец
Omg he is so much better than dumb ass Simon 🥰
Вообще в жизни не ожидал что что то подобное про мой родной город покажут на этом канале 😳😳😳
simon is a fucking legend, how dare you
Blyat
The demand of living elephants ivory just isn't enough, now they have to dig up the ivory from long dead elephants.
It makes excellent piano keys
@@jamesmurphy9105 tf?
I mean atleast the animal is already dead and extinct not like we can save it or bring it back. It'd just be sitting in a fuckikg museum collecting dust anyways
@@MayorMcheese12 I think some of these tusks have enough DNA in them for scientists to clone them.
So what? It doesn’t cost much to get these, they’re already dead. Its ecologically pretty sound
I cant believe the vice guy went inside that tunnel Haha that thing is ready to collapse. Thats how they clean out the huge freezers in processing plants.. The cameraman well he always survives
Except for the camera guy working on the rear end of elons rocket tests, he gets blown up over and over
The guy speaks Russian fluently...he's gotta be a little crazy
Yeah I definitely wouldn't have went in there I hate mosquitoes nevermind the fact it looked like it could collapse at any moment 😆 🤣
@@souhung69 ?
What I want to know is how is this guy not showing any suffering from mosquitoes.
Repellent does an amazing job.
You don't have mosquito repellents where you are from?
Emil... Next year's episode. Stay tuned.
The cigarette smoke helps as well
Good question im willing to bet those mosquitoes are carrying some nasty stuff out there
if its destructive to the earth, china always has a hand in it😂
Every major power, of course.
@@twonumber22 mostly china
@@rdizzleoriginal No, not really. They're up there, but not even close to you know who.
@@twonumber22 probably India then
@@rdizzleoriginal What is cognitive dissonance?
I find the various comments quite interesting. Working in this field of science over the last 3 decades I find that most viewpoints were some what biased and misinformed. We know that mammoth tusks have been found for over three centuries by the hundreds of thousands. There is no rarity or lack of supply for their procurement commercially or for scientific research. Many individual collectors will pay in the thousands of dollars for collection cabnet examples. The Chinese are driving prices up dramatically for their use in carved ivory trade in jewelry and artistic decorative forms. This fossil trade relieves the demand for the living species ivory trade and will help reduce the slaughter that unfortunately is still driven by the demand for local Bush meat in Africa. It's counter productive to restrict active collecting of these specimens and certainly does not endanger the livelihood of an extinct species or their living relatives. Clearly many universities and scientific research organizations are studying mammoth tusks and frozen carcasses for DNA and pathology studies like those in Russia, Japan, Germany and the USA. The University of Michigan's program under their fine world class paleontology department is a leader in mammoth tusk research. The greatest threat imposed by the passionate and commercially oriented collectors is how they are changing the environment by using high pressure water dredging on the Siberian topography. Also many other important vertebrate remains are frequently overlooked by these teams as many do not have qualified professional paleontologists to scrutinize what being discarded. There are many vertebrate taxa that are equally if not more important that may be discovered in these sediments.
Also it clear that even if it were possible to save every scrap of bone from these collection areas they would easily fill every major museum in the world. Unfortunately these institutions are cash strapped and undertaking such a challenge would be economically disastrous. There is just too little funding. So this science is between a rock and a hard place financially. At best it would be reasonable to set up a partnership with the commercial collectors and the scientific community. This commercial fossil industry is certainly far from perfect but until the general public realizes that some research on this material is better than the alternative, leaving vertebrate fossil to disintegrate in the open elements and ignore them as a scientific resource completely. It's better to reach a goal for creating a working relationship with these companies and salvage what is reasonable and possible economically. Many commercial fossil collecting companies have striven to partner with various professionals in this science. I really enjoyed the video and hope more like it are offered to the public..
Exactly. I know they're strapped for resources too, but the scientists should be out there documenting everything rather than trying to get them shut down.
@@ZechsMerquise73 unfortunately a large number of paleontologists have aligned with politicians attempting to out law public fossil collecting altogether even to the point of relinquishing private property ownership. The UK has a treasure act in place where a collector of fossils and artifacts must be turned into their district public magistrate to review the importance of their find and a professional is assigned to determine its scientific value. If this is a common discovery of the kind already in abundance in the British Museum collection they are released to the collector and then must split the find fairly with the land owner. Of those specimens that are of national importance then the state is entitled to procure it but must equally pay the collector and land owner the fair market value of the find. The UK has a public fund under their government to pay such endowments. I believe more countries should adopt this strategy to save historical and prehistory resources. Everyone would win and the professional community would be able to save far more important specimens. In this way it would allow the general public the ability to encounter rare specimens in the field rather than allow these resources to weather away in the field.
Pm
@@ZechsMerquise73 I feel these american mammoth Ivory tusks represent lodges of settlement of ancestors. Bones Hided and tusks made furniture and houses sleds housing cultural necessity and like Kennewick Man should be for the tribe to preserve and document locations. It's everywhere here in Columbia basin in many colors and various stages.
@@miss.yesgoodplease1643 at this time there is no substantial or even the slightest residual evidence of these tusks being used as ornamental objects during the end of their existance in North America. We know that tusks are represent as intrinsic building materials on circular house structures in Russia. Some tusks in Europe have produced carvings at a few sites. We have some evidence of Mammoth hunting and Mastodon remains that were butchered here in America. At this time only human remains are repatriated to tribal members in North America. I have been actively working in that program for many years. At this time the archaeological community has never requested a single mammoth tusk to be repatriated to any indigenous tribe. If a carved mammoth tusk were to be interred with Native American burial remains that could be a valid repatriation for consideration. Otherwise its just an assumption that these tusks would all be considered as archaeological artifacts. Most are simply the remains of mammoth that died from natural causes and few could be proven to be associated with human intervention.
Well Mammoths will become extinct again from poaching if they are ever brought back...
Well they’d likely start in a highly guarded reserve. And also, they maybe wouldn’t.
I think you are presuming the first 1000 Mammoths will be released to the wild and not studied extensively in research facilities and limited to private reserves. I think you are also presuming they will be just let loose in the wild to live randomly anywhere. I think you are also presuming it takes 50 years for Mammoths to have babies. Meanwhile Elephant populations in South Africa are ballooning to proportions so out of control, 7523 square mile reserves are being threatened by total deforestation... because of the Elephants... Mammoth populations can double from 20,000 to 40,000 in less than 10 years with care.
They cannot bring woolly mammoths back
In Russia yes, in Canada they will be fine.
@@hsvr sure they can, all they need is the right genetic sample.
all I could think of disease, unknown disease.
Get yourself some anthrax poisoning treatment with that $5000
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Don't worry they were wearing masks for their safety and the safety of the fatty on a mobility scooter in Walmart
Pretty sure the dieses would pose little trouble to us we’ve already came into contact with it a million years ago we’ve built an immunity if anything the diseases are the ones that need to worry we’ve had constant contact with newer and more dangerous diseases the unknown ones haven’t
If this were in America the title would have been " How woolly mammoth tusks are supporting the local economy by creating jobs "
this, to me, is a good enough reason not to "bring back" the wooly mammoth; they would just be poached into extinction.
Not if we eat them, best way to save an animal from extinction is to make it a widespread part of the diet.
Then bring em back, poach em,bring em back, poach so on and so forth. So much that everybody can own a mammoth 🦣
@@trent5098 that's just perpetuating a cycle of pain for an animal that is probably thanking its lucky stars is no longer on earth with humans at the top of the food chain.
We can't actually bring complex beings back regardless of what they claim. Especially from long-dead creatures that have badly decomposed. The only "cloning" that we are actually capable of is reproduction of actual cells. For example, you can only grow more hair from a hair sample. You can't use hair DNA to grow skin cells or organs. Anyone telling you otherwise is lying.
@@needmoreramsay i had no idea. i'm curious where you found this info. i'd like to read up on it so i can be better informed!
Human greed and depravity never ceases to amaze me.
Get over yourself Joy, why would depravity and greed amaze anyone? Poor choices of words, and these activities are the very least of the greed and depravity there is. What is the most significant to me is that the permafrost in Siberia is melting quickly, more than anything else.
Poor people doing the rich peoples dirty bidding. They’re in a situation where these illegal activities are worth the risk
@@AESETC get over yourself kid. Your smug arrogance and the confidence to which you say these things are what most surprise me
Joy, you're not only one of those people who think if someone makes a profit then they're "greedy" you are now claiming that if poor people put themselves in danger, go into remote regions far from their families and work very hard every day to find something they can sell to feed those families, you call them "greedy" too! Your description of "greed and depravity" probably applies to everyone who has a normal job too! Not everyone wants to live off welfare like you Joy!
@@reggie8370 get on yourself old man. What didn’t you get? Siberia is warming up and green house gases are causing global warming.
This mob mentality we are living through is so sad in so many ways. Humanity could be doing so much more.
Yes it is a shame that so much artifacts are being lost. There must be a way to allow the local people to benifit from the finds while preserving the relics of value.
It says they leave the bison horns,Skulls,Sabre cat teeth,Have bear Claws and skulls...I want a trip out there for the stuff they don't want!!
Depressing to see
Literally humans will do anything... this is inventingly abhorrent.... wow
They gotta make money to survive and this makes more money so i dont blame them but its sad none the less.
Or an opportunity, depends how your perception of the world and reality.
@@AESETC Imagine reviving the population, interbreeding them with elephants, or even farming/herding/domesticating some for a reliable source of ivory.
Then turn it off
They are brave going out there digging up all this old diseases....
What old disease's? Are they really though? Bacteria definitely...
COVID 62 BCE, LETS GOOOOOO
@@Rowan.CoD.M Yeah man a lot of bacteria cause disease except some select ones. And could probably be dormant in the permafrost. Anyone's guess there's billions of types we don't know of.
@@Rowan.CoD.M smallpox my man, we aren't vaccinated against smallpox. But it is supposed to lie in where people who died of it were buried.
If this was the case we would’ve have problems when we first found dinosaur bones
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Genocide
@@NoradNoxtus AKA Eren Jaegar o'clock
lol your arms would fall off and they would keep on coming lol
@Phoenix 𝙾𝚙𝚎𝚗 𝙼𝚢 PROFILE which has a huge impact on fish and anything that eats them. The Russians are not using flood pouds and filtration before it heads back into the river
The guy with the mosquito net mask over his face is looking at the reporter from Vice like 🤷♂️ what were you thinking ?
Let's face it, Vice is not what it used to be, but God damn if this wasn't easily one of the best, unique, and just cool stories they've done in my recent memory. Good work.
The Afghanistan coverage from VICE is SO GOOD!!! This one is so sub par. And the commentator doesn't have a good voice for commentating
I thought that until I looked up some other videos all this was a big deal 6-7 years ago. Soo hella behind
@@therealforeignwolf lol no
I'm completely speechless on what's going on here. This raw footage of what this journalist is showing, is yet so important but people aren't aware of...
There is literally nothing wrong with this. These people have to make a living. These animals are long dead. And you dont need to bring these animals back because they went extinct for a reason. Not to mention the oxygen levels are different now than the ice age.
@@doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132 You can still edit your comment if you'd like to throw in some more random things the OP didn't mention.
@@ZechsMerquise73 is that sarcasm or?….
Tusk are really expensive
wait tils this person finds out what else is going on in the world
The mammoths died all at once in a massive blast that killed everything. Possibly by our Suns micro nova. We're due for another one soon.
they were killed in the flood actually
look forward to it. 75% of us don't deserve to be here anyways
What flood? Lol
@@Kolek-sun-eater joe mamas flood
No, ancient humans nuked them to death with nuke laser rays
Original, concerning and splendidly filmed. Whoa those tusks!
Agreed. The reporter/Vice did a great job balancing context with letting the hunters/the cave show this fascinating trade I never knew about.
Class soundbite but really. Wow the shots are incredible. I can't tell if I'm being misled by TopGear style Cinematography or if I am watching literally frozen life/DNA of something so cool combined with a .... I can't finish my point I'm too stoned. Every shot is fucking brilliant looking no? This is just bloody amazing in every way. The steam, close ups, crane shots?/Drones. Who paid for this it's beautiful and complicated.
"it's nothing serious, just a fracture"
A RUSSIAN GUY
"CHINAH" *trumps voice*
Interesting to see that the scientists and mammoth hunters are working together on this issue. It of course should be regulated to mitigate environmental damage, but I understand why people are driven to this kind of work - there aren't many good opportunities in many parts of Russia to make a good living. I only hope that going forward there can be some sort of agreement whereby science can be advanced, the past can be preserved, and mammoth hunters can still make a living.
There you are
The past is the past. Let it go. Trust in god. This world was never meant to last forever.
5500$ in two month is good money even for Europe
@@bobhope8404Amen 🙂
@@bobhope8404 humanity has trusted god for ages, still hasn't helped one bit.
As a South African I am actually so happy they are doing this because maybe it will save our living Elephants or Rhinos from disgusting poachers who kill unbelievably beautiful animals for their tusks/horns.This market while destructive is not killing anything and possibly even saving animal lives for now.
Sorry Humans are trash and they will not stop till you hunt them like the animals they are after.
That's not hunting. This is how gold was recovered in the California Sierra Nevada Mountains in the 1800's. It's called "hydraulic mining"
The level of ignorance in this trade is not only mind-numbing, but it furthers my loss of faith in humanity to ever do the right thing for the future of Mother Earth and ALL lifeforms who inhabit her.
monetary value has destroyed so much
There isn't anything thing bad about selling ivory from long extinct mamals . The problem is Wooly mammoth hunters tear up and damage sensitive Arctic ecosystems with large machinery in the process.
It is fascinating to see the large megafauna uncovered by this tundra thaw but just imagine what's being lost. For Example: there's pollen in every inch of soil, we can tell what plants were thriving in which layers, and compare that to the dates of different events and establish major ecological events of the past relating to forest fires or undersea currents changing. CURRENTLY we have that technology, but the context is all lost if the ground is partially ice and the ice melts ruining the layers/seriation. So we're losing untold mass amounts of ancient data from the thawing and we're losing "whatever" the future could have created new technology to study, the stuff we can't conceive of finding in archaeology yet is also being lost.
This is horrible.
Maybe the best most important specimens ever found. Are in the illegal trade. Never to be seen by public eyes. Horrible
Lost forver in early 2020s
I agree, I hope ALL ae killed in cave in.
There are a lot of mammoth skeletons, even in museums. Maybe more when they find something else interesting, like a lion cave
Is anyone going to talk about how fucked this is, just the fact that their digging through already melting ice, the tunnels they dig are exposing the bottom part of the ice to the outside Heat and now it’ll not only melt from the outside now but from the inside too, you just gotta love the domino effects, oh us humans.
and even worse they aren't the ones that's going to be the most affected
Yes, like digging for oil made a huge empty caves colapsing and ready to colapse....
Additionally, preventing formation of already scarce fossil fuels
I don't know why but watching this video makes me sick to my stomach like we don't deserve to exist because we don't know how to coexist with the nature
@@yuktichaudhari2247 spot on, it’s sickening, your right, why didn’t we build with nature in mind from the start, the power hungry have a never ending drive for more, no matter the cost, it was never about protecting and coexisting with nature though it should’ve been, the native Americans had it right, they knew the importance of the delicate nature we take for granted, goes to show how corrupt some can be given power and how unimaginable their hunger is for more power, and control. I’ll say though seems so calculated these people got us on a train that’s gunna run off the cliff, and we are in the passenger cart enjoying their play while behind the curtain they are poisoning the food and destroying the train.
Damn... Outlaw elephant tusk now they fiend for sumthin even more rare. Mammoth tusk... Like, c'mon now... 🤦🏾♂️
This was so interesting to watch and learn about, and the footage was so good. Something I had never even thought about before.
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I understand the fact that tomorrow isn’t promised to anyone,but investing today is a hard thing to do because I have no idea of how and where to invest in?
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Imagine they find a caveman frozen in time
Chinese would make a talisman from it
At least they arn't poaching animals to get them 🤙
Exactly, I don't see the big deal. I only think it only presents as an issue when there is exploitation of actual live animals involved. I understand the conservationists might cringe at the prospect but penalizing people for taking parts from long dead animals is stupid, it should be a slap on the wrist.
By prosecuting these people you're creating an even more questionable market that sell to even more questionable buyers.
Buy this elephant.. I mean mammoth tusk, it’s legit mammoth!! worth more than an elephants tusk.. yeah, what could go wrong
They're talking about bringing them back actually, then we would have a problem.
Only killing the entire world fast tho🤦 burrowing through that is gonna speed up the process of emitting gases into the atmosphere..not to mention erosion is gonna be catastrophic. You're too simple minded for vice lol
@@nelly411 the problem is stated at 4:30
But where’s the squirrel???
They are wasting the oppurtunity there's a market for saber tooths
This is actually really amazing and tbh I've seen Shark and Megalodon Teeth hunted for in a similar manner in Florida. I mean they take the risk to locate these amazing finds that would never be seen if not for them so I guess I don't see an issue with it. Many rare items are located this way all over the world. Minus the personal risk they take these items would just be swallowed up by the earth if not for their perilous job. But I agree the so called scraps they throw away should all be donated to science, universities, and museums none of this should be wasted that is sad nobody can find a few dimes to fund this.
Its to much effort probly to pack it up and haul it out of the deep bush, expecially if they aint making a buck off it
bro, you know there no way we going to trap all that water back in the permafrost state from before right? lol
@@marimo66666 whos talking about the water lol?
There you are. Lol
STALKER in real life, instead hunting relics it hunts ancient tusk
At least they don't kill live elephants just for tusks...
Wait until they revive an old virus
@@ChristianDoretti I can bet they already have in somewhere in the Lab weaponize and ready to use.
The scientists should go along with them on their digs and just take the "offcuts". The miners need to make money so might as well work with them. Crazy that the bones of these other "worthless" animals are just getting washed away into the river
I think that when the frontiers are open I will go there to get those things, is not illegal in my country to sell those kind of bones and I think I can get a good price for them.
The animals were frozen during one catastrophic temperature plummeting event. You won't convince me that the animals died and laid there to freeze without being scavenged. The permafrost was never meant to be as it was only formed during the aftermath of a super volcano mega eruption. It created a wintertime that lasted years.
this is sad and amazing at the same time
another hidden reality we should be aware of, reminds me of the burmite amber mining. it's sad in many ways, for humans, for science, environment etc
Yeah, I wonder who buys this super expensive and ancient ivory. Probably the same people who eat fish eggs to extinction. 🤣 Classy.
Asians prob
The same people that eat pangolins and spread pandemics.
Mmmm... Black fish eggs... So tasty
The clip explicitly mentioned that the buyers were Chinese
Same people responsible for all earth’s problems
What's wrong with guys digging up and selling old mammoth tusks, we all have to make a living some how, there probably aren't any other jobs where these people live
Right? It’s better than them killing elephants to get ivory.
They could sell animal skulls too, especially saber tooth tiger skulls. I want one.
"It's nothing serious, just a fracture" - The most Russian thing I've heard today
Another vice propaganda piece, nice
At least its not gonna lost forever.
How about you focus on poaching of animals that haven't already gone EXTINCT
I gotta give it up to vice on this one. Not only was this a top notch and interesting story, but you managed to bring up climate change without getting political or obsessing over it. Thank you for a real journalistic story
Interesting especially after boneyard Alaska with joe Rogan
Incredible scientific and historical finds being destroyed for greed.
lol... if it wasnt the hunters nobody would have EVER discovered them, as those paleontologists are lazy fuks
@@trader2137 Modern Paleontologists tend to preserve digs, not strip mine them. Even when they know where bones are, practice is to :not: dig them up if there's not much value in doing so. They leave some for a future generation and future perspectives.
@@ZechsMerquise73 thats why they never discover anything, because it takes ages for them to dig anything
@@trader2137 These miners aren't discovering things. They're letting rarer fossils fester on the ground.
@@ZechsMerquise73 what a coincidence that every single mammoth with fur was discovered by miners or workers and not 'paleontologists', same for dinosaurs, they dont do sht
I'm waiting for the Mammoth clone
Me too
2027
Why?
What are you going to with it?
watch sesame street
@@TehMorbidAtheist would be cool to see animals you've only seen in movies/documentaries come to life. Maybe it would help with preventing other aninals from going extinct. People might realise how beautiful nature is.
Everyone is interested in bringing these animals back to life... We aren't able to protect the creatures that are with us today... Let's all think off life without rhinos elephants lion hippos and all of gods creatures including humans then that would truly be peaceful
In any case, those bones will end up in the river when everything melts. So at least someone should get enriched from those bones.
True. As the scientist says nobody is interested in funding them to do the same, so if the hunters weren't there it would all get destroyed anyhow.
Why does so many unsavoury things lead to China? Tiger bones, rhino horn, bear bile, ivory, etc. and now mammoth ivory ?
All usually for traditional chinese medicine. Or in this case, bc they think ivory is pretty. TCM is a large reason that pangolins are now endangered
@@beachesandcream27 I've always felt that calling it Traditional Chinese 'medicine' gives the wrong impression, like it's not just the Chinese version of African witchdoctory ...
The way he talks about the first discovery and how they knew it was different because “it wasn’t like a Sabre’s” makes me want to know about the Sabre-toothed trade now…
Where Jake the Snake Robert's got his name for the DDT from
The distraction is just horrendous
*destruction.
All of this bullshit so they can buy a car or something. WHAT THE FFFFFF
Should use that money for engineers to buttress those caves
redicuolous people chasing stpidity and greed
Russia is a wonderland.
The single layer deposition suggests a bloat and float situation. Does anyone know if a carbon date has ever been done?
Looking at their operation, i don't think so
what's bloat and float Eric /?
What does that suggest???
Bloat and float? Like methane release? Isn't there rumours of old disease bacteria thawing and being released?
Like they died in a fluvial or glaciofluvial (idk how its spelt) event. Like a flood, the animals settled in the same sediment layer in a low pressure zone, thus why the guy is finding them in same layer. So aleast for that specific area it could have been a rapid deglaciation event in the area. Volcanic activity or space debris or something like lake Missoula floods could have basically drowned and swept up a bunch of animals. So bloat and float is a bad way to put it. It should be float then bloat? Or swept then sink then stink? Lol. Disclaimer I know nothing, just stoned watching a video hah.
P.s. curious about date due to younger dryas impact hypothesis stuff. Like sure you'll find well preserved remains throughout permafrost. But there could be concentrations of animal corpse deposition and if there's enough energy ot could erode permafrost layers with other animals already dead in those layers and redeposit with the freshly dead. In those areas where there is many skeletons of multiple species in 1 sediment layer
Man I would love to buy a sabertooth tiger jaw or something that they just call trash
IRK. There must be a market for it they just don't know how to make/reach it.
Wow this looks exactly like where I grew up in the Northwest Territories, Canada
it essentially is the northwest territories based on how the continents were structured eons ago. we're closer to russians than the world thinks!
Plenty of dead mammoths
Those scientists are smart cause the disease tusk make the best art
It’s terrible. But I can also appreciate that when they find something unique or that they deem special, they have enough respect for the history to donate it to researchers.
The question is if we bring back wolly mammoths where are they gonna live ? Ice land or green land or what ?
Finders keepers. If a tusk found in the mud saves a living elephant I’m all for that. That said, I wish no one felt a need for ivory for any reason, especially all the BS medical reasons.
As the video points out these guys are doing the grunt work and therefore making the discoveries.
Not really. They are using hoses to blast holes in the earth and causing quite a lot of damage. If these bones were salvaged legally and by actual paleontologists, then a lot more of the bones would be available for display. Most of them are discarded, as they're literally blasting them with a hose rather than carefully extracting. What they're doing is illegal so it's not exactly "finders keepers" when you're going into nature and causing destruction for money.
The amount of tusk hunters that actually donate their bones to science is extremely low I bet. Youre spending hundreds or thousands and tons of time on special hoses and water why would you give your find away?
If you're really hunting elephants for ivory in Africa, why not go here where it's free? Scared of the cold?
I understand the wrongs in all this but those tusk Ivories are gorgeous. Amazing skill by those craftsmen
It’s like those old fashion hats with hummingbird feathers, so pretty but wrong 😂😭
I guess your thoughts on SLAVERY is similar.
Goddamn! Why not just build some fires in those tunnels while they are at it. Melt some more of that ice that probably shouldn't be melting.
Water works better actually due to thermodynamics
Really interesting reporting. Vice did a good job on this one.
The demand of living elephants ivory just isn't enough, now they have to dig up the ivory from long dead elephants.
@@fossilgamersbirds8641 i believe they were digging up wooly mammoths, not elephants. at least the ivory gets some use.
Damn. Vice out here doing the most. Wish my FBI did the same for me. :( very informative btw. Keep up this hard work.. people enjoy it.
I dont wanna b humans anymore. We’re definitely damaging earth. Wake up people, Mother Earth is already in pain and rage. :”(
maybe if these countries had stable incomes fir families and people werent screaming for jobs the they wouldnt have to resort to this. people dont want to work in a crumbling cold smelly hole, but to live they do it any way
Kinda sad to see a piece of history being carved and sold especially the fossils from dead animals
No it isn’t.
@@DARKOvibrationsWhat do you think about it
@@P27301 I think that money talks and scientists can purchase these samples like they purchase other samples. Simple really. Science gets a lot of money, and funding, and these bones ain’t gonna break the bank.
@@DARKOvibrations I don't care about the tusks being scientists they will probably study the bones but the fact that mammoth tusks are just being sold to people just to be carved seems stupid, I mean its not like theirs an infinite amount of mammoth tusks coming from dead mammoths. At least the scientists are doing something for the greater good while the people ordering actual tusk carved ornaments are just ruining a piece of history.
@@P27301 sorry, disagree. Siberia is a huge place, and there were mammoths roaming for many many many many years. There’s a fucking millennia of bones under there probably. And when they start becoming rarer, the price will go up, and maybe they won’t be used as frivolously
O mamute pequeno que belo amuleto. São artistas.
Don’t ban the hunting, just send in palaeontologists to pick up the other stuff.
@Phoenix 𝙾𝚙𝚎𝚗 𝙼𝚢 PROFILE shutup bot
Better crude oil than whale oil.
Better mammoth tusks than elephant tusks.
Sad I know but still.
it's so crazy to me how there's people that look Asian and Russian at the same time. Evolution in our faces
Russia is a country predominantly in Asia so it would be more weird if they didn’t :’)
@@Bringon-dw8dx Naturally haha
What??? Russian is a nationality not a race! Only 80% of Russians are Slavic(white) the rest are minorities mostly Asian. There are even Black Russians… over 100,000 of them actually.
@XT в России есть националисты но их мало. А чернокожий это интересно и пугающий одновременно нас. А так я из Владивостока и тут много азиатов но приезжих. У нас тут даже есть русские корейцы, живут с 1817года. Так что у нас терпимость к другим нациям сильная. Все равны каждому по заслугам да по возможнастям. У нас даже есть еврейския автономная область. Только евреев там нет все в Израиль уехали а район остался.
@XT hahhaha now you are just talking out of your ass! I’ve been to almost every major city in the Russian Federation and I’m black. I currently have pending citizenship in Russia. I’ve been treated better in Russia than I ever have in America! As have most Black people visiting or living in Russia, That’s just a unquestionable fact! I’ve traveled to Krasnodar, Moscow, Yekaterinburg, Samara, Stavropol, Volgograd, St. Petersburg, Ufa, Chelyabinsk, and Saratov. People all over asked me for pictures respectfully and people opened their homes up to me as a foreign stranger. You might want to also go read a history book because morally speaking what you say makes absolutely no sense to anyone who has a brain. Russia never owned black slaves, Russia never had colonies in Africa, Russia supported countless independence movements in Africa during the Cold War, thousands of black Americans fled to the Soviet Union in the 30s to escape rampant racism in the United States, Etc. So as usual, FACTS debunk your strange theories… Time to go back to whatever bridge you were in control of, TROLL!
They are bringing them back to this world starting in Siberia!! This should be interesting…
Wait until one of the hunters exposes himself to an ancient alien virus...
Russia really a whole diff world💀
Honestly I don’t see what’s wrong with this? Meeting the demand for ivory without having to take the lives of living elephants
Did you watch the video where they explained that it washes away other fossils that are useful to science?
Also there is no reason for there to be a demand for Ivory - it is entirely useless.
I agree! Anything fossilized will take the weather fine out of the ground (still 0 degrees) all scientists should be flocking to the area and grabbing what they dont use, it seems they dont have an issue giving the stuff they dont need away but its super remote , im sure they wash away fleshy some fleshy bits though, but honestly if the permafrost is melting anything that was preserved wont be for long, itll get turned into oil underground once decomposition starts. Scientists already has a large number of tusks and even a whole baby carcass to study with living cells, thats pretty much the pinnacle of mammoth finds anyway, as fresh as they get! But it seems the whole area is riddled with a ridiculous amount and theres now way even a tiny % will be uncovered before decomposition given the rapid melt rate.
@@MCGreen13 they are not usefull for science there are probably milions of fossils of all kinds of animals in the permafrost its not like its 100 milion years old fossils its 15 thousand years old bones and they are plentyfull
Reporters Russian is impressive .
Mahatma Gandhi once said that “Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's needs, but not every man's greed ”
Don’t u mean mahmmoth Gandhi?
All those stunning fossils just being discarded! Tossed out because they’re not “ice ivory”! Don’t they know there is tremendous value in the fossil business?!
True that..Ebay...
Those are not rare.
@@GaliosUA I know many fossil collectors don’t have ice age bison or cave bear bones in their collections, myself included who would want any discarded fossils.
The whole problem is too expensive transport. They are in the taiga, there are no roads, and I don't think they have helicopters at their disposal. And it is better to carry tusks for several thousand than a bull's skull for several hundred.