We have to keep in mind that she DID admit they slept together when she was actually on the stand. She didn't lie under oath I think she just got caught off guard with that breakfast club ahh question on such a more professional platform .
She also said she was hit in both feet. That was a lie! She lied about the fight she had with Kelsey. There are multiple times in which she lied which shows a pattern.
@@user-pz4vb9cu8uaccording to who, Tasha K? Read a legal document or Megan Cundieff the Legal Reporter that Tory Supporters hate because she brings facts straight from the court house that contradicts everything they ever believed!
I like that you acknowledged the victims. People celebrating his release not respecting that someone son/brother/family member/friend had been k*lled by Thug actions. I pray the victim family finds peace. Also, I hope Thug turns his life around, he’s very lucky to have his freedom now, but that probation can be a set up for failure if he doesn’t move correctly!
Man... Im so glad Wayno got into the streaming space... My G will be at the top very soon... especially once he starts having guest and co-host... Salute G!
Hey Wayno, Thank you for what you do. Became familiar with you from Everyday Struggle and I’ve been following since. I love the series and wish you the best with everything moving forward. 🎈
Megan told the truth to exactly who she needed to and that was the judge and attorneys while under oath. The public has become way too entitled to ppl’s personal matters…it’s a double edge sword because with social media, a majority of its users overshare and disclose shit they shouldn’t, and because this has been normalized the public at large believe we are privy to certain information and we’re not! Whether we all felt she was being dishonest about her involvement with Tory and was able to put 2 and 2 together before the trial began, what bearing does this have on her being shot? So if she didn’t sleep with him she would be more deserving of your sympathy or would some ppl still say she should have been shot?!? People really don’t hear how the shit that leaves their mouth truly sounds ☹️🤷🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️ I saw that documentary and there is more to her career and who she is as a person than that one phucked up experience in her life!
Her team sought out Gayle for an interview and intentionally lied and your reasoning is because Gayle isn't the judge? It's wild that you think that makes sense.
@ again who is Gayle in the bigger scheme of things? If her team called them then it was to work in their favor in the court of public opinion. That’s why anyone goes sitting on national television to sway your thoughts. Ya so hell bent and focused on the relationship or lack there of, that you forget your boy already had a record. Megan’s victory was an after thought if you really look at the charges; he was a felon caught with weapons, HE lined himself up, stop blaming everybody else.
@@honeycomb485IDGAF about no damn Tory. 😂 I like a few songs and that's it. Ya'll swear to God if someone says anything you perceive as negative about Megan they're a pro Tory fanatic. Last I checked SHE got arrested for domestic violence in which SHE admitted and bragged about it on live. And I bet you got an excuse for that too. 🤦🏾♀️ BOTH are in the situation they're in because of their actions. Ya'll can sit online a LIE about her status all you want. Facts are facts. I bet you fall into that delusional category of people who think her 43k first week sells is equally great or greater than someone who sold 300k. Tory deserve what he got and she deserve every bit of what she's getting. Maybe she won't sleep with nobody else man. 😂😂
The interview worked in her favor? Chileee okay 😂 Wasn't she arrested for DV! She not only admitted it on live but also bragged about it and gave women advice to not assualt their boyfriends only because they'll tell or are you gonna act like that didn't happen and people are making that up. What else you got about the perpetual victim? BOTH of them are in the situation they're in because of their actions. You can minimize and lie about her actions all you want but it won't erase the truth. Deuces! 😂
He definitely beat the case, if the prosecution offers you a plea of 15 years probation when you were facing up to life in prison, it’s because the prosecution doesn’t really have anything, the prosecution fumbled this whole case, Thug really didn’t even have to take the plea like his lawyer said, he wouldn’t of been found guilty, the Prosecution not offering you a plea like that if they have everything they need for a clean conviction
@@cedricspencer720Exactly: "prosecution fumbled this whole case" Boy looked guilty. He's lucky to get off, but if they were this incompetent & crooked in the case he's probably better off accepting the plea and staying out of their way. Not telling what other shady ish they were capable of... SMH
You must be a gunna fan saying some dumb ish like that. They we’re trying to give him life in prison and he gets to go home with 15 years of probation.
Not many seem to question Tory’s character, even though he lied about his actions and turned an entire community against a woman he harmed. She initially lied about him shooting her to protect him, but instead of appreciating her silence, he chose to spread negative stories about her in the media to damage her reputation. Rather than making things right, he chose to publicly bully and abuse her. She may not have been ready to reveal her personal relationship with him, and I don’t think it was appropriate for Gayle to ask her about it. Whether or not they slept together doesn’t mean she lied about him shooting her or deserved to be harmed by him. It’s crucial to focus on the real issue here, stop domestic violence against women!
kelsey shot her. tory harmed no one. nobody cares whether you're ready to reveal a relationship or not. you don't LIE when it involves a criminal case. if she lied about that on TV, she likely lied under oath about other things too. the truth will come to light. women have gotten away with false allegations for too long.
When a team loses in the Super Bowl or World Series, I wouldn't expect many think pieces on all the ref/ump calls that went their way...only those that went against. That's just the nature this dynamic. She "won", so people will naturally dissect her credibility. Tory "lost", so his lack of integrity/credibility is assumed.
My two questions are: Why did Megan feel the need to go back to Kylies party after being asked to leave to drag Tory out after the driver had already brought her home? Why would Tory feel the need to shoot a woman who seems significantly more emotionally invested in him? Let's think logically here
Wayno deserves every bit of success he receives dog. I'm so glad Everyday Struggle introduced me to him. I look forward to watching these and exchanging thoughts, relating to ideas, etc. All in the name of hip hop. This is the culture right here. This is the shit we need to push forward. Congrats Wayno on the sub count and much continued success brother
He is on the verge of losing it all with these red pill takes. When will these Black men realize that there is no greater support than Black women! If he was smart he would support Meg even if he didn’t believe it. The women would flock and buy up memberships. We pay more often than men do.
I hate that out the whole documentary that’s the Meg clip that the media running with. She already admitted that on the stand. She didn’t deserve to get shot
The issue is not if she admitted it or not. The issue is that there’s a lot of convenient amnesia and a man’s freedom is on the line. You can’t just get flustered and forget important facts that are relevant to the case. That’s why ppl are trippin, nobody truly cares if she did sleep with him. We care that she lied about it.
Missing the point. The reason she lied at that point in the first place is the focus. That interview was only done because the press from the pretrial had Megan looking crazy. The whole argument that led to the gun being fired revolved around the people in that car and who was fucking who so acting like the question and especially the lie is irrelevant, is disingenuous at best
doesn’t mean she had to ‘seemingly’ lie about it n put a possible innocent black man in jail , i don’t remember exactly what he get 10, 20 years for a crime he possibly didn’t do and meg possibly acknowledged that too and still proceeded to paint tory as the shooter. this is a black man in prison for a crime he may not have done n meg could’ve helped his case, whether they had beef or not that’s the right thing to do, whether she got shot or not it’s the right thing to do. sending innocent black men to prison is disgusting n we know why i don’t gotta explain why that’s a terrible situation
GIRL! They love to deflect. Tory was not supposed to have or be around a firearm. Megan didn't call the police nor did she press charges. He violated his probation & let his emotions get the best of him. Whether she had sex with him or not is really beside the point.
My genuine question: Do you think that these male entertainers lie? My 2nd question: Why doesn't it matter because of the day, 1. Daystar started the cyberbullying apologizing for whatever! He was convicted for possession of firearm against the RULES of HIS PROBATION and discharging it IRRESPONSIBILITY. 2. What do her sexual partners have to do with her being SHOT in the foot? It is nasty work to see how a large number of Black men in this space participate in the clownery. Don't hold this man responsible for his actions.
@asdfxcvbn746 That is why he had a court case in front of his peers and more than her testimony and was convicted. His "music" video where he was a butcher; okay, I got it? There is no need to reply
20 yr probation is almost like they want him to fail I'm still scratching my head on how the Judge was declaring it a mistrial without prejudice but he took a plea deal. Smh
Kind of disappointing that out of the whole documentary that’s what’s being focused on.. men lie on who they slept with just as much, let’s not do this.. honestly, a lot of people have a problem with how Meg talks about men, the same way these men talk about women in songs..
True. But the difference is most women are in prison because of their relationship with a man. Women are often times toxically devoted to men. Megan’s music encourages women to not be obsessed with men and let them run you. So many women I know are also financially taking care of men. That’s why female rappers say things about using men for money, because women be being used and disrespected by broke men! You know who is never offended by bars about wanting a man with money? Men with money!
And I agree! Very disappointing! I think it’s because none of them actually watched the documentary nor do they want to. They only want their views validated!
Shout out to the lead attorney that covered the case since the beginning. There was a lot of nuances to this case, the state lost a lot of money, i don't think they gonna try a rico case again unless it's federal.
She lied on National Television because she was caught off guard and the question was irrelevant. SHE ADMITTED in the COURT OF LAW she slept with him and that’s where it mattered. Even if she slept with him, what’s that got to do with the case? Her body, her private life. Y’all werid.
You sound so ignorant and I like your channel but Gayle had no business asking the question and her having s3x with him has nothing to do with him pulling the trigger.
Gayle had every right to ask the question it was for context. And she could have simply not answered as opposed to lied. Then calling her bitches when she was nothing but disrespectful even after finding out that she lied. Also, him “ pulling the trigger” was never proven.
The gun was pulled out cause Tory was sleeping with Meagan and her friend. Tory struggling over the gun with her friend is what cause the gun to discharge. It wasn’t brought up in court because Meagan’s friend got immunity, Tory didn’t want to snitch so he was found guilty and will probably be deported once time served.
@ it was proven that’s why he went to jail. The jury was unanimous. Idc about Gayle being called a b, she was being one in that moment. And just so you know not answering is also lying by omission, the question shouldn’t have been asked, it has nothing to do with Tory assaulting her.
Funny looking back how Meg has been treated especially as her raise to fame was in the midst of her mother and grandmother passing, compared to how Kanye was treated after his mother passed ,he was allowed all sorts of grace and weird behavior even to this day Kanyes weirdness is passed off as he lost his mother at a crucial time in his career,but no grace is given to Meg..at all she's supposed to the" strong black woman " who endures all insults and degradation with a smile and a thank you..sad
what does her mother & grandmother's death (that happened a long time ago) have to do with meg lying on tory & conspiring with kelsey to put tory in jail for something he didn't do? i'm reading women's comments & to see how their brains & logic works, its scary to think they let women vote... like... holy shit lol smh
@quxncy9492 Talent doesn't confer a greater degree of humanity upon you than someone else. The point stands. People give men much more grace and sympathy than women.
@@TakverReturns "People give men much more grace and sympathy than women." --- on what planet? clearly not Earth. if there's a domestic dispute in progress, its normal protocol to handcuff the man & ask the woman what happened. women get 1/3rd of the prison time for doing the same crimes as men even on repeat offenses. women routinely get away with sexual assault on minors in schools. women almost always get away with domestic violence against their male partners, on college campuses & at work men are assumed guilty until proven innocent & are given no due process, men are just fired or expelled based on false allegations until someone can prove that the woman is lying. what are you talking about? women really live in an alternate reality in their own heads where women are oppressed lol smh
@@TakverReturns "People give men much more grace and sympathy than women." --- on what planet? clearly not Earth. if there's a domestic dispute in progress, its normal protocol to handcuff the man & ask the woman what happened. women get 1/3rd of the prison time for doing the same crimes as men even on repeat offenses. women routinely get away with sexual assault on minors in schools. women almost always get away with domestic violence against their male partners, on college campuses & at work men are assumed guilty until proven innocent & are given no due process, men are just fired or expelled based on false allegations until someone can prove that the woman is lying. what are you talking about? women really live in an alternate reality in their own heads where women are oppressed lol smh
The hatred towards Meg and yall being so okay with a woman being shot just because it didn't kill her is crazy. Just a few inches up and Meg would be referred to in the past tense in her 20's. Both Tory and the friend would be in prison for manslaughter or unintentional homicide. And all these black men would still try to justify why she should have died (the same way I see these same black men say Aaliyah was a hoe and ran through.... At 15.)
Thug is lucky as hell, glad he's finally home. Let's hope that he's on his absolute best behavior until that probation is finished. Excited to see what direction he takes with new music.
Wayno, making this about gender is a little corny, because lying is a human flaw. But to answer to your question of why a woman might lie on an intimate partner: Embarassment. Sometimes women are embarassed of either the number of partners or a particular partner. Gayle put her on the about something that had nothing to do with her assault and out of embarassment of having alept Tory, she lied. But lying on a body is a universal thing, Im interested to know why men have bodies they wont cop to🤔
I always appreciate your voice and how you approach matters with humanity. I felt your holistic consideration wasn't as present in the last section and would be interested to hear more of your thoughts and reasoning on the matter. I won't claim to know all the details of the situation. Simply felt rushed to me compared to the level of consideration and grace you have given in other stories. Always wishing you success!
@ true but it’s better than basically life in prison and he get to be with his family so it’s somewhat a win. They said the conditions of the jail were horrible. He fought a good fight.
I wouldn’t give Gail King any extra clicks either with relationship gossip. This is transactional I get my story out you get views don’t let it get muddy lol
Meg’s sexual history shouldn’t have been discussed on national television and she had the right not to disclose that and she spoke about the relationship in court. none of this changes what happened that night He got 10yrs it’s over.
It was relevant in the sense that their history could have an influence on what happened that night. That's why a professional journalist like Gayle would ask. She actually shouldn't have been caught off guard like that, and anyone in that situation might not be much of a forward thinking person if they were honestly. No offense intended.
All she had to say was no comment she lied, we not kids I tell my girl all the time a lie is a lie don’t matter how little it is or how much you was caught up say no comment or don’t answer lying is a choice and a tool evil people use
female logic: her being a habitual liar in interviews & on tv has nothing to do with her lying in court on someone she was mad at & had a former relationship with.
Yall don’t find it weird a dude who’s been making music for 11 years with no issues just crashed out and shoots a fellow artists cuz she trashed his music? If Kelsey was innocent why would she need any form of immunity? And the lawyer Tory first hired quit mid case and now they’res evidence she has ties to roc nation and Jay z who manage Meg the stallion. Yall act like $ don’t get passed around and ppl get back doored all the time
@@mickyfoo773the man was already a fkn felon for gun charges and was already on probation. How can you sit there and say he “had no problems”. Just admit yall are conspiracy theorists who hate BW 🙄🙄
@@mickyfoo773no. And he was already a felon with gun charges. That isn’t a dude with “no issues” And you don’t find it weird that he’s calling and apologizing for what happened after it happened? Y’all and your selective memory
Meg isn't that good of an actress... her reaction to the verdict is the most raw reaction i have seen on her since her mother died. Says something that she would have such a visceral reaction to the verdict for a man she says shot her who went on to troll and mock her every chance he got after the fact
In thugs situation there’s victims and in all likelihood it’s safe to assume he did have some involvement in gang activity BUT the way this court and the DA handled this case prior to the new judge….. HIGHLY concerning and makes you think about everyone in Fulton county courts who can’t afford a Brian Steele to defend against extremely sneaky and straight up dirty tactics that the DA tried.
Wayno, are you gonna do any interviews on your channel? That’d do good numbers and boost subs. An in-person interview with Ak would boost numbers and subs.
Thug basically got a Chief keef deal, except for the anti-gang reqs. It could end up benefiting him in the long run in the same way, he gotta stay in the studio for the next few years tho
I function with wayno. Didn’t care for him when he was podding with Joe Biden but dude is a real life journalist. Clean cut news. I even just subscribed. He’s going to be on par with figmunityworld and probably gonna be way bigger than no jumper fs
Thug needs to take the Kendrick Lamar route and come out in public every 5 years or so. Jeffrey, take a page off K Dot's "circadian rhythms of a shooting star", they see you when they see you, and stay away from BBL Drizzle. On a different note, Thug with his few extra pounds is so handsome! 😍😂
@cookiemonster64 the segment is about her lying and the perection of her changing, where did I mention anything about Tory or the shooting here..? Reading compression is lacking 🤣
15:59 it’s gonna be hilarious when thug clears gunna name and seeing people go back to liking his music like they wasn’t slandering him past few years 😂😂
@@Terrance-z9g I understand that but the narrative was everyone calling him a snitch and now thugs home and going to still be working with him maybe he’ll tell people he’s cool and didn’t snitch it’s gonna be funny seeing people who ran with that narrative go back to liking gunna again, and seeing people be ok now to publicly listen to his music (I still listened to it either way already) lol 😂
condolences and respect to all the families and ppl they were affected in this buffoneny, but hope dude turns his life around and make real changes. First question i'll ask him is "How u feel bout the Homie Yung Quan passing?" that's just me tho.
in terms of making music, thankfully thug is very versatile and can make RnB music and types of music that dont involve gang activity. so he can just do that and make mixtapes and albums with just that type of music.
Megan admitted that she lied in that interview on the in the courtroom because she wasn’t embarrassed,when she was on the stand. like why you acting like this is new news?
One thing no one ever talks about: Tory Lied to IGGY AZALEA! She wrote a character letter for him, but was told it would not be made public and only the judge would see it. He lied to use her to make it look like a WHITE FEMALE RAPPER supported him and believed him. This was highly manipulative. I believe Iggy because she never spoke publicly in his defense before. And when she did speak, she didn’t do him many favors. She explained that she never wanted to publicly speak on it because of all the inconsistencies, BUT did believe that Tory should be held accountable, but felt that 5+ years was too excessive. She wrote the letter in hopes it would help him get 5 or less years, not that she thought he was innocent. And likely would not have written the letter at all if she knew it could be made public. This is who Tory is, a selfish manipulator. This further hurt Iggy’s already strained relationship with female rappers.
The culture loves the criminals, yet cry when they die or get locked up
Love they ass...he didn't do nothing headasses.😂
We have to keep in mind that she DID admit they slept together when she was actually on the stand. She didn't lie under oath I think she just got caught off guard with that breakfast club ahh question on such a more professional platform .
She also said she was hit in both feet. That was a lie! She lied about the fight she had with Kelsey. There are multiple times in which she lied which shows a pattern.
@@user-pz4vb9cu8uaccording to who, Tasha K? Read a legal document or Megan Cundieff the Legal Reporter that Tory Supporters hate because she brings facts straight from the court house that contradicts everything they ever believed!
@@user-pz4vb9cu8uplease don't let em forget! I sure did lol but it's facts
We made it to 16k! Now let’s get to 20k. We can do it ourselves!
Let’s get it court good morning
@@Wayno119good morning
@@Wayno119I’m genuinely rooting for Wayno to get a huge sub list. He deserves it.
I like that you acknowledged the victims. People celebrating his release not respecting that someone son/brother/family member/friend had been k*lled by Thug actions. I pray the victim family finds peace. Also, I hope Thug turns his life around, he’s very lucky to have his freedom now, but that probation can be a set up for failure if he doesn’t move correctly!
Hopefully Thug and gunna can be like this 🤞again and be best friends forever and go to parties
Man... Im so glad Wayno got into the streaming space... My G will be at the top very soon... especially once he starts having guest and co-host... Salute G!
Nah no cohost “ILL DO IT MYSELF”
@@Wayno119That part
Hey Wayno,
Thank you for what you do. Became familiar with you from Everyday Struggle and I’ve been following since. I love the series and wish you the best with everything moving forward. 🎈
Megan told the truth to exactly who she needed to and that was the judge and attorneys while under oath.
The public has become way too entitled to ppl’s personal matters…it’s a double edge sword because with social media, a majority of its users overshare and disclose shit they shouldn’t, and because this has been normalized the public at large believe we are privy to certain information and we’re not!
Whether we all felt she was being dishonest about her involvement with Tory and was able to put 2 and 2 together before the trial began, what bearing does this have on her being shot? So if she didn’t sleep with him she would be more deserving of your sympathy or would some ppl still say she should have been shot?!?
People really don’t hear how the shit that leaves their mouth truly sounds ☹️🤷🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
I saw that documentary and there is more to her career and who she is as a person than that one phucked up experience in her life!
Her team sought out Gayle for an interview and intentionally lied and your reasoning is because Gayle isn't the judge? It's wild that you think that makes sense.
@ again who is Gayle in the bigger scheme of things? If her team called them then it was to work in their favor in the court of public opinion. That’s why anyone goes sitting on national television to sway your thoughts. Ya so hell bent and focused on the relationship or lack there of, that you forget your boy already had a record. Megan’s victory was an after thought if you really look at the charges; he was a felon caught with weapons, HE lined himself up, stop blaming everybody else.
@@honeycomb485IDGAF about no damn Tory. 😂 I like a few songs and that's it. Ya'll swear to God if someone says anything you perceive as negative about Megan they're a pro Tory fanatic. Last I checked SHE got arrested for domestic violence in which SHE admitted and bragged about it on live. And I bet you got an excuse for that too. 🤦🏾♀️ BOTH are in the situation they're in because of their actions. Ya'll can sit online a LIE about her status all you want. Facts are facts. I bet you fall into that delusional category of people who think her 43k first week sells is equally great or greater than someone who sold 300k. Tory deserve what he got and she deserve every bit of what she's getting. Maybe she won't sleep with nobody else man. 😂😂
The interview worked in her favor? Chileee okay 😂 Wasn't she arrested for DV! She not only admitted it on live but also bragged about it and gave women advice to not assualt their boyfriends only because they'll tell or are you gonna act like that didn't happen and people are making that up. What else you got about the perpetual victim? BOTH of them are in the situation they're in because of their actions. You can minimize and lie about her actions all you want but it won't erase the truth. Deuces! 😂
He didn’t beat the case he just took a deal like Gunna did
He definitely beat the case, if the prosecution offers you a plea of 15 years probation when you were facing up to life in prison, it’s because the prosecution doesn’t really have anything, the prosecution fumbled this whole case, Thug really didn’t even have to take the plea like his lawyer said, he wouldn’t of been found guilty, the Prosecution not offering you a plea like that if they have everything they need for a clean conviction
@@cedricspencer720Exactly: "prosecution fumbled this whole case"
Boy looked guilty. He's lucky to get off, but if they were this incompetent & crooked in the case he's probably better off accepting the plea and staying out of their way.
Not telling what other shady ish they were capable of... SMH
@@dually81Gasp, America!?? Grimey!?? Oh my!!
@@chillallthekildren Nah, more like incompetent... sighhhh!?!?
You must be a gunna fan saying some dumb ish like that. They we’re trying to give him life in prison and he gets to go home with 15 years of probation.
"if you let that man beat, he beat." needs to be a bible verse 😭
Not many seem to question Tory’s character, even though he lied about his actions and turned an entire community against a woman he harmed. She initially lied about him shooting her to protect him, but instead of appreciating her silence, he chose to spread negative stories about her in the media to damage her reputation. Rather than making things right, he chose to publicly bully and abuse her. She may not have been ready to reveal her personal relationship with him, and I don’t think it was appropriate for Gayle to ask her about it. Whether or not they slept together doesn’t mean she lied about him shooting her or deserved to be harmed by him. It’s crucial to focus on the real issue here, stop domestic violence against women!
kelsey shot her. tory harmed no one. nobody cares whether you're ready to reveal a relationship or not. you don't LIE when it involves a criminal case. if she lied about that on TV, she likely lied under oath about other things too. the truth will come to light. women have gotten away with false allegations for too long.
Exactly. So quick to bring up Meg’s character but doesn’t say a damn thing about Tory’s character
When a team loses in the Super Bowl or World Series, I wouldn't expect many think pieces on all the ref/ump calls that went their way...only those that went against. That's just the nature this dynamic. She "won", so people will naturally dissect her credibility. Tory "lost", so his lack of integrity/credibility is assumed.
My two questions are: Why did Megan feel the need to go back to Kylies party after being asked to leave to drag Tory out after the driver had already brought her home?
Why would Tory feel the need to shoot a woman who seems significantly more emotionally invested in him?
Let's think logically here
Right, people cant separate the artist from the man.
Black man do better with this meg shit.
Wayno deserves every bit of success he receives dog. I'm so glad Everyday Struggle introduced me to him. I look forward to watching these and exchanging thoughts, relating to ideas, etc. All in the name of hip hop. This is the culture right here. This is the shit we need to push forward. Congrats Wayno on the sub count and much continued success brother
He is on the verge of losing it all with these red pill takes. When will these Black men realize that there is no greater support than Black women! If he was smart he would support Meg even if he didn’t believe it. The women would flock and buy up memberships. We pay more often than men do.
Durag Wayno with the what I believe is the longest episode yet. Appreciate you brother.
I hate that out the whole documentary that’s the Meg clip that the media running with. She already admitted that on the stand. She didn’t deserve to get shot
The issue is not if she admitted it or not. The issue is that there’s a lot of convenient amnesia and a man’s freedom is on the line.
You can’t just get flustered and forget important facts that are relevant to the case. That’s why ppl are trippin, nobody truly cares if she did sleep with him. We care that she lied about it.
Missing the point. The reason she lied at that point in the first place is the focus. That interview was only done because the press from the pretrial had Megan looking crazy. The whole argument that led to the gun being fired revolved around the people in that car and who was fucking who so acting like the question and especially the lie is irrelevant, is disingenuous at best
doesn’t mean she had to ‘seemingly’ lie about it n put a possible innocent black man in jail , i don’t remember exactly what he get 10, 20 years for a crime he possibly didn’t do and meg possibly acknowledged that too and still proceeded to paint tory as the shooter. this is a black man in prison for a crime he may not have done n meg could’ve helped his case, whether they had beef or not that’s the right thing to do, whether she got shot or not it’s the right thing to do. sending innocent black men to prison is disgusting n we know why i don’t gotta explain why that’s a terrible situation
i keep saying seemingly and possibly because we don’t know for sure but that’s how it’s starting to look because she’s getting caught up in her lies
GIRL! They love to deflect. Tory was not supposed to have or be around a firearm. Megan didn't call the police nor did she press charges. He violated his probation & let his emotions get the best of him. Whether she had sex with him or not is really beside the point.
My genuine question: Do you think that these male entertainers lie? My 2nd question: Why doesn't it matter because of the day, 1. Daystar started the cyberbullying apologizing for whatever! He was convicted for possession of firearm against the RULES of HIS PROBATION and discharging it IRRESPONSIBILITY.
2. What do her sexual partners have to do with her being SHOT in the foot? It is nasty work to see how a large number of Black men in this space participate in the clownery. Don't hold this man responsible for his actions.
if she would lie on national tv about major details involving her relationship with the "assailant" what else would she lie about? thats the point.
@@asdfxcvbn746If Tory would lie about his entire encounter of the evening what else would he lie about?
@asdfxcvbn746 That is why he had a court case in front of his peers and more than her testimony and was convicted. His "music" video where he was a butcher; okay, I got it? There is no need to reply
20 yr probation is almost like they want him to fail
I'm still scratching my head on how the Judge was declaring it a mistrial without prejudice but he took a plea deal. Smh
“Once on a drunk night maybe twice, he kept catching me” lmfaoooooooooo
Damn near painting bro pine a predator 🤦🏿♂️😭
Kind of disappointing that out of the whole documentary that’s what’s being focused on.. men lie on who they slept with just as much, let’s not do this.. honestly, a lot of people have a problem with how Meg talks about men, the same way these men talk about women in songs..
True. But the difference is most women are in prison because of their relationship with a man. Women are often times toxically devoted to men. Megan’s music encourages women to not be obsessed with men and let them run you. So many women I know are also financially taking care of men. That’s why female rappers say things about using men for money, because women be being used and disrespected by broke men! You know who is never offended by bars about wanting a man with money? Men with money!
And I agree! Very disappointing! I think it’s because none of them actually watched the documentary nor do they want to. They only want their views validated!
Durag Wayno!!! You are apprciated my brother 💪🏾
Shout out to the lead attorney that covered the case since the beginning. There was a lot of nuances to this case, the state lost a lot of money, i don't think they gonna try a rico case again unless it's federal.
She lied on National Television because she was caught off guard and the question was irrelevant. SHE ADMITTED in the COURT OF LAW she slept with him and that’s where it mattered. Even if she slept with him, what’s that got to do with the case? Her body, her private life. Y’all werid.
if she can do a SMALL lie about something like that imagine a BIG LIE👀👀👀👀
@@JayFlockoTory lied about everything, and has a history of being a violent criminal! WTF!
@@LeonaHeart 1. what he lie about
2. what’s his criminal background?
appreciate yo positive energy bro
You can skip over the fact that she lied as its not a condition for why she should have been shot.
Correlation does not imply causation.
You sound so ignorant and I like your channel but Gayle had no business asking the question and her having s3x with him has nothing to do with him pulling the trigger.
Gayle had every right to ask the question it was for context. And she could have simply not answered as opposed to lied. Then calling her bitches when she was nothing but disrespectful even after finding out that she lied. Also, him “ pulling the trigger” was never proven.
The gun was pulled out cause Tory was sleeping with Meagan and her friend. Tory struggling over the gun with her friend is what cause the gun to discharge. It wasn’t brought up in court because Meagan’s friend got immunity, Tory didn’t want to snitch so he was found guilty and will probably be deported once time served.
@ it was proven that’s why he went to jail. The jury was unanimous. Idc about Gayle being called a b, she was being one in that moment. And just so you know not answering is also lying by omission, the question shouldn’t have been asked, it has nothing to do with Tory assaulting her.
Nah you sound ignorant lol
So you “conditionally” like wayno. Sounds like Meg the horse🤣🤣
welcome home thug 🤜🏽🤛🏽
“Conditional bodies” is crazy 😭 we’ve all known a girl who used that excuse bruh.
If she wanted to use that excuse, it says more about the man than her. We love to claim great men even if it doesn’t work out!
You and rob Markman definitely need a Patreon 💪🏾
On the way for sure
Well said and put together as usual! Talking about admission of guilt! And breaking it all down.
Funny looking back how Meg has been treated especially as her raise to fame was in the midst of her mother and grandmother passing, compared to how Kanye was treated after his mother passed ,he was allowed all sorts of grace and weird behavior even to this day Kanyes weirdness is passed off as he lost his mother at a crucial time in his career,but no grace is given to Meg..at all she's supposed to the" strong black woman " who endures all insults and degradation with a smile and a thank you..sad
what does her mother & grandmother's death (that happened a long time ago) have to do with meg lying on tory & conspiring with kelsey to put tory in jail for something he didn't do? i'm reading women's comments & to see how their brains & logic works, its scary to think they let women vote... like... holy shit lol smh
The only huge difference in this situation is Meg is not the artist Kanye is. Talent matters.
@quxncy9492 Talent doesn't confer a greater degree of humanity upon you than someone else. The point stands. People give men much more grace and sympathy than women.
@@TakverReturns "People give men much more grace and sympathy than women." --- on what planet? clearly not Earth. if there's a domestic dispute in progress, its normal protocol to handcuff the man & ask the woman what happened. women get 1/3rd of the prison time for doing the same crimes as men even on repeat offenses. women routinely get away with sexual assault on minors in schools. women almost always get away with domestic violence against their male partners, on college campuses & at work men are assumed guilty until proven innocent & are given no due process, men are just fired or expelled based on false allegations until someone can prove that the woman is lying. what are you talking about? women really live in an alternate reality in their own heads where women are oppressed lol smh
@@TakverReturns "People give men much more grace and sympathy than women." --- on what planet? clearly not Earth. if there's a domestic dispute in progress, its normal protocol to handcuff the man & ask the woman what happened. women get 1/3rd of the prison time for doing the same crimes as men even on repeat offenses. women routinely get away with sexual assault on minors in schools. women almost always get away with domestic violence against their male partners, on college campuses & at work men are assumed guilty until proven innocent & are given no due process, men are just fired or expelled based on false allegations until someone can prove that the woman is lying. what are you talking about? women really live in an alternate reality in their own heads where women are oppressed lol smh
HEAVY WEEK! Salute to Durag Wayno, good luck this weekend my brother! 💪🏾
The hatred towards Meg and yall being so okay with a woman being shot just because it didn't kill her is crazy. Just a few inches up and Meg would be referred to in the past tense in her 20's. Both Tory and the friend would be in prison for manslaughter or unintentional homicide. And all these black men would still try to justify why she should have died (the same way I see these same black men say Aaliyah was a hoe and ran through.... At 15.)
nobody cares if she got shot or not. the issue is did she lie about WHO shot her. her friend kelsey shot her with tory's gun & they're lying about it.
@@asdfxcvbn746yeah main issue went right over they head nobody died & nobody wanted Meg shot but we don’t know who shot her that’s a problem
@@RysinGgee ikr
@@RysinGgeethen story should have said who shot her…case closed
@@sdk0524 Tory? He def said He Didn’t so idk where u been but truth will come to light
W WAYNO, keep it up with the content !
Salute bro glad u doing good still after everyday struggle
Thug is lucky as hell, glad he's finally home. Let's hope that he's on his absolute best behavior until that probation is finished. Excited to see what direction he takes with new music.
💎💎💎 congrats on all ya success! Excited for 2025!
Wayno, making this about gender is a little corny, because lying is a human flaw. But to answer to your question of why a woman might lie on an intimate partner:
Embarassment. Sometimes women are embarassed of either the number of partners or a particular partner. Gayle put her on the about something that had nothing to do with her assault and out of embarassment of having alept Tory, she lied. But lying on a body is a universal thing, Im interested to know why men have bodies they wont cop to🤔
Ngl wayno, I appreciate you and your takes m. Positivity and game
13:20 And that's why the State normally DON'T do RICO charges.
Get your bread and avoid the drama
Shout out to wayno, stay safe n blessed this weekend, the meg thing wild af. Love from D.C.
I always appreciate your voice and how you approach matters with humanity. I felt your holistic consideration wasn't as present in the last section and would be interested to hear more of your thoughts and reasoning on the matter. I won't claim to know all the details of the situation. Simply felt rushed to me compared to the level of consideration and grace you have given in other stories. Always wishing you success!
The problem is it doesn't matter if he hit or not that's not any of our busy. What about Tory character in this whole thing?
“To hear lie after lie.” BFFR
You got Meg fans in a tizzy with this one😅
Jeffery home and get to be with his family. People gotta understand the terms and conditions of the plea tho. I’m glad Wayno broke it down.
that plea deal is pretty messed up though
@ true but it’s better than basically life in prison and he get to be with his family so it’s somewhat a win. They said the conditions of the jail were horrible. He fought a good fight.
The victim's family doesn't get to be with them. Let's not forget that.
Real talk at the start, after dealing with a layoff.
I wouldn’t give Gail King any extra clicks either with relationship gossip. This is transactional I get my story out you get views don’t let it get muddy lol
The judge was merciful and respectful to him given the limits of the system.🇺🇸⚖️
I thought the system was racist?
Meg’s sexual history shouldn’t have been discussed on national television and she had the right not to disclose that and she spoke about the relationship in court. none of this changes what happened that night He got 10yrs it’s over.
She lied period , she lied
Motive ..... Like why was the girls fighting cuz Tory was fucking them both
It was relevant in the sense that their history could have an influence on what happened that night. That's why a professional journalist like Gayle would ask. She actually shouldn't have been caught off guard like that, and anyone in that situation might not be much of a forward thinking person if they were honestly. No offense intended.
All she had to say was no comment she lied, we not kids I tell my girl all the time a lie is a lie don’t matter how little it is or how much you was caught up say no comment or don’t answer lying is a choice and a tool evil people use
female logic: her being a habitual liar in interviews & on tv has nothing to do with her lying in court on someone she was mad at & had a former relationship with.
Tory lame fans come off like conspiracy theorist.
Meg The Liar fans come off like Kamala Harris voters.
Yall don’t find it weird a dude who’s been making music for 11 years with no issues just crashed out and shoots a fellow artists cuz she trashed his music? If Kelsey was innocent why would she need any form of immunity? And the lawyer Tory first hired quit mid case and now they’res evidence she has ties to roc nation and Jay z who manage Meg the stallion. Yall act like $ don’t get passed around and ppl get back doored all the time
@@mickyfoo773I'm still interested in what the immunity was for.
@@mickyfoo773the man was already a fkn felon for gun charges and was already on probation. How can you sit there and say he “had no problems”. Just admit yall are conspiracy theorists who hate BW
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@@mickyfoo773no. And he was already a felon with gun charges. That isn’t a dude with “no issues”
And you don’t find it weird that he’s calling and apologizing for what happened after it happened? Y’all and your selective memory
THE DURAG BAC!!! HE MEANS BUSINESS 😂😂😂💪🏽💯🏁
who df is that dude wiping his nose in the last clip lmao that shit funny asf
Fax brudda
Bless up Wayno.
Big up Wayno! Salute from London.
Salute
No ups from the uk 🇬🇧 he has no common sense
Ain gone hold, I’m proud of Thug
Tory SELF-SNITCHED in the jail call. Stop w/the games. I’m glad she suing
When that phone call happened no one was accused of anything yall forget lol
@seandon9515 translation: "that was before he thought he was going to be legally held accountable"
Just say that. Lol.
@ let me ask you do you think he said dance b dance and shot her?
@ he apologized for causing the fight lol which Meg lied about also lol
I’ll never forget hearing about how birdman sent thug to ☠️ lil Wayne
I love when Wayno talks about the Streets 🤓
Gunna deserves an apology
Meg isn't that good of an actress... her reaction to the verdict is the most raw reaction i have seen on her since her mother died. Says something that she would have such a visceral reaction to the verdict for a man she says shot her who went on to troll and mock her every chance he got after the fact
That’s why his sentence was so harsh, because of how he treated Megan afterwards.
In thugs situation there’s victims and in all likelihood it’s safe to assume he did have some involvement in gang activity BUT the way this court and the DA handled this case prior to the new judge….. HIGHLY concerning and makes you think about everyone in Fulton county courts who can’t afford a Brian Steele to defend against extremely sneaky and straight up dirty tactics that the DA tried.
If you let that man beat, he beat. -wayno 😂
That's the angle you chose to speak on with Meg?
Tell me about it . He has no common sense.
I don’t feel sorry for him, because at the end of the day he’s guilty. He had people killed lol they’re just sloppy
Where was the proof then did you watch the trail ?
@@deeshotcha2250 it was on his phone, but it was thrown out because they did something incorrect when gathering the evidence
@@drevandamva so on his phone was poof he had people killed but they threw it out so the point of your comment was lmao
2015 Thug was such a game changer
Keep posting
Wayno on them prison workouts
he be in the park doing them prison push ups like Kendrick 😂
lmaooo he been with the five percenters doing calisthenics
Megan put the R word on Tory saying he took advantage of her
Wayno, are you gonna do any interviews on your channel? That’d do good numbers and boost subs. An in-person interview with Ak would boost numbers and subs.
No interviews , he should start a separate channel for interviews
Eventually I will but honestly I don’t wanna talk to people much I’m not tryna be nobody’s promo stop
@ facts we here to hear your pov
you could just watch Ak 😂😂😂 we don’t want that shit over here
Oh shit. Wayno got the “buff man “Du rag on 😮. Bench press +50xp
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Knew Meg was lying when she said Tory yelled "dance b*tch" before shooting her
Thug basically got a Chief keef deal, except for the anti-gang reqs.
It could end up benefiting him in the long run in the same way, he gotta stay in the studio for the next few years tho
I'm just surprised they didn't make him change his name🤦🏾♂️ They took everything else.
I function with wayno. Didn’t care for him when he was podding with Joe Biden but dude is a real life journalist. Clean cut news. I even just subscribed. He’s going to be on par with figmunityworld and probably gonna be way bigger than no jumper fs
"Doritos is his meal of choice"
Thug needs to take the Kendrick Lamar route and come out in public every 5 years or so. Jeffrey, take a page off K Dot's "circadian rhythms of a shooting star", they see you when they see you, and stay away from BBL Drizzle. On a different note, Thug with his few extra pounds is so handsome! 😍😂
Everybody Gangsta until the Feds show up boy…
Thug was all state charges
waddup big dawg
If dude hit 😂 ...he hit lol
She lied on television and later swore on her mama she ain't let Tory hit. Lying on your deceased mom is a questionable character quality as a whole.
What does that have to do with the jail bird shooting her
@@cookiemonster64Exactly.
@cookiemonster64 the segment is about her lying and the perection of her changing, where did I mention anything about Tory or the shooting here..? Reading compression is lacking 🤣
@@cookiemonster64she has no credibility, her friend shot her and they blamed Tory the friend got immunity so they couldn’t bring it up in court
@@UltimateBlaze1913 cool story bro Tory not getting out write a letter to someone who cares
19:13 GOTTA GET HURT TO LEARN!
15:59 it’s gonna be hilarious when thug clears gunna name and seeing people go back to liking his music like they wasn’t slandering him past few years 😂😂
He don’t care about clearing his name it’s about gunna still being signed so it’s a need for thug to be in contact with him
@@Terrance-z9g I understand that but the narrative was everyone calling him a snitch and now thugs home and going to still be working with him maybe he’ll tell people he’s cool and didn’t snitch it’s gonna be funny seeing people who ran with that narrative go back to liking gunna again, and seeing people be ok now to publicly listen to his music (I still listened to it either way already) lol 😂
condolences and respect to all the families and ppl they were affected in this buffoneny, but hope dude turns his life around and make real changes. First question i'll ask him is "How u feel bout the Homie Yung Quan passing?" that's just me tho.
Wayno looked like he went back in time to 1996 did 6months jail and came back
He look like akademiks if he went to the gym😂
Lmao in 96 I was in the 8th grade & starting HS
Thug and Gunna should drop a gospel album
Love the motivation before each episode!!
in terms of making music, thankfully thug is very versatile and can make RnB music and types of music that dont involve gang activity. so he can just do that and make mixtapes and albums with just that type of music.
Megan admitted that she lied in that interview on the in the courtroom because she wasn’t embarrassed,when she was on the stand. like why you acting like this is new news?
Conditional body is insane 😂
17:27 your man Akademiks is the biggest armchair lawyer in the Hip Hop space. He be wrong af too 😂.
Still no 2 tone durag lol
Wayno, you had me until your thoughts on Meg
This is the second most fucked up deal he signed.
Did Lupe gift you that Katana lol?
They couldnt Lock up jeffrey williams so they locked up young thug. Damn😂😂
Truly humbled under god 🙏🏾
One thing no one ever talks about: Tory Lied to IGGY AZALEA! She wrote a character letter for him, but was told it would not be made public and only the judge would see it. He lied to use her to make it look like a WHITE FEMALE RAPPER supported him and believed him. This was highly manipulative. I believe Iggy because she never spoke publicly in his defense before. And when she did speak, she didn’t do him many favors. She explained that she never wanted to publicly speak on it because of all the inconsistencies, BUT did believe that Tory should be held accountable, but felt that 5+ years was too excessive. She wrote the letter in hopes it would help him get 5 or less years, not that she thought he was innocent. And likely would not have written the letter at all if she knew it could be made public. This is who Tory is, a selfish manipulator. This further hurt Iggy’s already strained relationship with female rappers.
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Thug attorney and his father said this. They wanted to fight. But you can’t make him fight