I did a sponsorship with these guys and Rockler a few years back. One of THE best upgrades I've ever done. Has been 100% rock solid and reliable since day one.
Dude, this is awesome. I appreciate the disclosure of your relationship. I trust your opinion as an influencer because you're always so transparent about these things. Also, in response to the last Wood Talk episode, your "curmudgeon-like" banter is hilarious and does not distract from your obvious love for this hobby. Thanks for being awesome.
I have had an ivac control system on my dust collection for many years now (just the remote switches, not the gates). It has been flawless the entire time. I recently added a second system and I got another ivac switch for that new system and because of the multiple frequencies they can run without interfering with each other. I find it be a very convenient system and well worth the investment.
Marc, For what it’s worth I appreciate the full disclosure on the products. I realize some would think it’s blasphemy, but this is how you support your family. Good for you to be good enough in which corporations seek you out. Your skills certainly didn’t happen overnight and it’s payment well earned. It’s a win/win in my mind - you get a product you enjoy and respect, the company gets honest advertising, the viewers get a look see at what they may want or need. This is definitely going on the need list for the she shed when it’s built. Thanks!
Even with your complete transparency about the nature of your relationship with the company, this review was well-informed and excellently conducted. A win-win for the creator and the viewer. Thanks Mark!
Enjoyed the iVac video. Your disclaimer at the beginning was welcome but not necessary for me as I’ve watched your content for many years. I have a small hobby shop where “I’m a maker of fine sawdust and the occasional useful project,” with only three blast gates in my dust collection system. Even so, I have the iVac controller with remote for my dust collector. It makes it safer and easier to always use the system. Would love to have the three gates automated, but that’s beyond the budget in my shop. After all, I give everything away to the kids, grandkids, and friends with no incoming revenue. And I’m OK with that!
Dude, thank you for taking a stand on endorsements. I hope the rest of the community follows your lead. Its hard to know who to trust. Edit: Forget the haters with their shop vac sticks. If iVac paid me to install this system I’d be all over it. #techjunkie Haha
Glad to see you getting into this system. Ive been using Ivac for a couple of years and absolutely love it. They are great to help you if you have problems. One of the techs worked with me for hours on the phone trying to solve a quirky issue. We eventually got it worked out and it has been flawless since. Great people !
@@ivac9521 See, this is the kind of thing that makes me love a company! I never expected a reply, but here you go once again impressing me. Keep it up!
Roger V - Agreed. The retail cost on the overhead doors she “partnered with Wayne Dalton” on for her new shop is more than the entire 20x40 bricked workshop I’m currently wrapping up. I know she doesn’t intentionally gloss over her sponsor deals, but it is annoying at times.
Things cost what they cost, either I can afford them or I can’t. It makes no difference to me what a RUclips content creator paid, or didn’t pay, for goods and services. It’s not like anyone on tv is disclosing the nature of their relationship with a sponsor. This Old House is sponsored by GMC, does it matter how much the trucks they drive are worth or what the nature of their relationship is? That’s kinda their business, not anyone else’s, IMHO.
But why does it matter? Are you watching specifically to see if you can afford the products she uses? I think i'm in the minority, but this is no different than watching someone on TV. It's an avenue to income for them. I can always sort of see the product placement, or the advertising gimmick, but it's just me understanding that's part of their revenue stream.
I have had the Ivac system in my shop for several years and I have had zero issues with it. I have been thinking of upgrading it to the style they have now. There is nothing wrong with what I have now but my nephew is in the process of setting up his own hobby wood shop so I thought maybe I would give him my system and get the current system for myself.... He doesn’t have the budget for it right now and I have been giving him some of my older tools that to help him get set up...
Good review and disclosure. I looked at this when I installed my cyclone but all the blast gates, sensors and additional recepticals would have cost as much as my cyclone. My system came with a remote to turn it off or on, good enough. Just remember to open the gate.
I appreciate the honesty of the relationship between you and the companies who support you. Also I can't afford this in my shop, so I literally got nothing out of this video. 😉😉 I'm kidding of course.
I've been considering building a new shop from ground up, new building ( out of my basement, lol ) some new tools and new and better dust collection system. This appears to be the very thing I want in my new shop, & apart of the new dust collection. This is definitely something I will look further into if I am able to take my new shop planes from paper to reality. Thank you for this video. Very informative!
You had me salivating when you started talking about a sponsored video; I was really hoping that meant iVac was going to offer a promo code. As you to continue to talk to them, it would be awesome if they did! I've been considering it for years, but at $250/ea for the 6" blast gates, it's a big investment.
The Wood Whisperer ...that really should be top-of-mind for any sponsor. A promo discount is really the only the call to action on these videos for them - if they don’t offer it they’re wasting a Golden opportunity to pick up customers (and more referrals).
I agree. I bought one of their remotes for controlling my dust collector without having to walk over to the switch. I love it. But their blast gates are just crazy expensive! Each tool would be over $300 for the blast gate and tool sensor. That's more than some of my older tools cost! Once I get all my duct runs completed, I'm going to experiment with an Arduino-based solution that would be way, way cheaper. There's a RUclips video (ruclips.net/video/D1JWH425o7c/видео.html) where someone shows how he automated his dust collection system with an Arduino and some servos and relays. He even gives away the source code.
@@ivac9521 That would help some, but about half of my tools have 5" or 6" drops, so I'd need your 6" blast gates, which only come in metal/$$$. One of these days I'm going to try a DIY, Arduino- or Raspberry Pi-based dust collection automation project. For a professional woodworker, it totally makes sense to just install a full iVac system and get on with building cabinets or furniture and making money. But for a hobbyist who also likes tinkering with computers and electronics (i.e. me and probably many other viewers), a DIY solution is attractive. I don't mind paying premium prices for nice tools, or even for high-end ducting (e.g. Nordfab). In those cases there are a lot of alternatives and I know what I'm getting for the extra money. But in a case like this where it seems like prices are high mostly because there's little / no competition, not so much. Though to be fair, iVac's prices for automated blast gates are _way_ lower than Nordfab's 😀
Really appreciate this review and while at this time it's beyond my budget, it's nice to see there are options out there for full automation and something to strive towards. Everyone has their own budget so there shouldn't be any trolls on this one LOL. Anyway thanks for sharing, love this solution!
Great review and installation vid Marc and I wish I would’ve went this route when I did my video on the system. Just so you know if you ever have any issues with the system or any of it’s components don’t hesitate to contact them. They have some of the best customer service out there and they will take care of you.
Got mine a few weeks ago, haven't had time to install but definitely worth it if you have blastgates and/or tools where there is hard to reach ducting.
As a viewer i appreciate your openness and honesty to why and how you are doing the video on the product of course i am in no means against anyone making a living or a profit on a product but its nice to know you are. Endorsing something you. Really are using and have installed otherwise the whole RUclips thing. Turns. Out to be kind of like one big Informercial which has kind of happened when they. Changed the way they paid the. Channels o the sponsorships not that long ago not necessarily your channel but certainly many others i followed
Glad you’re upfront about your relationship with the manufacturer, but it would also be nice to hear to say that you would call out any problems yo may run into with the products and maybe a comparison to competing products if you have any experience with them. Thanks.
Hey Mark. Been watching for a bit because I'm about to start fiddling with wood working in my retirement years. I've read every comment as of 'this' comment, and tbh I'm not surprised at all at the negative comments; don't agree with them, just not surprised. The reason I'm not surprised is because I realized two (2) important things a long time ago. 1. People watching YT videos are too damn lazy (or possibly just too stupid) to click on the "Show More" button in the description and actually read the damn thing. 2. People get so damned butt-hurt nowadays about other people getting free stuff because they (those other people) have a successful YT channel and they (the butt-hurt people) don't; I believe this in large part results from simple jealousy tbh. I retired at 53 and am about to turn 56. My point is that I've watched a LOT of YT videos over the previous couple of years. BY FAR... You are one of, if not the most transparent YTers I have come across when it comes to endorsements. Just from "listening to what you say" in the video, I gather these companies may be paying you to use their products, but they sure aren't "buying your opinion" on the matter. And if deciphering that from the video is too GD hard for most people, you specifically spell it out, in English no less, right there in the description. Alas, our society has become one of the laziest that has ever existed since we were put on this earth. Anyway, good video none-the-less. And fyi... I'll be filling my shop mostly with Powermatic and Festool based on watching your videos and then doing some followup research on my own. I'll be ordering a new PM jointer next week and am excited to start building some stuff. I already have a lot of the other basic tools just from being a contractor, so I'll use them for now. But if this wood working bug "grabs a-hold of my balls" so-to-speak, I'm going to put the Dewalt stuff away and fill my shop with Powermatic tools. Thanks for what you do.
I have a question regarding the blast gate always open feature. Lets say i have 4 electronic blast gates in my duct system and two blast gates that are non electric. If i open my non electric blast gate, will i be able to shut all 4 electric gates and override the always open feature? Thank you for your time.
How well does this setup work if 2 people are in your shop using different tools? If I'm running the table saw and my wife is on a sander, is the system smart enough to keep both blast gates open? Also, is it possible to configure 2 of the sensors to operate 1 blast gate? The use case for that would be me having 2 tools close together with 2" dust ports. I dont mind these two tools sharing the same 4" blast gate. So I would turn on either or both of my drill press and router table and the single blast gate would open.
How does it an handle an instance of material getting stuck in the gate while its trying to close? Does it try to close for X amount of seconds and throw an error? The same issue would also come up in the case of broken linkage.
The video is awesome, I just purchased all the stuff. My question to you is where did you get the extra power cords, they look factory. I know that the controller came with a nice looking power cord, but the other 2???
Now that is pretty slick! It's amazing to see things like these come out to the market like this. Hmmmm what will they come out with next? 🤔 next big tool to make jointery easier (domino), or another way to cut wood that will improve the table saw... hmmm if i can think of it, ill be rich $$$$
I'm having serious issues with the Tool Address 1 (Always Open Blast Gate) blast gate. It works fine whenever I'm using any of the other tools (Tool Address 2-8, Blast gate 1 closes whenever I turn them on and opens after they close) but whenever I'm finished using Tool 1 (Blaste Gate 1) it closes for about 2 seconds and won't allow air flow to my extractor, maybe 2 seconds won't damage the components of my extractor but I can't figure out why it doesn't stay open.
It's so funny that someone gets bent out of shape about your sponsorship. Anyone who follows you knows that content creation, advertising, and these types of relationships are what allow you to make your living. Yet they watch you on RUclips which helps your numbers, which helps make you money too. I guess that's irony? :D Cool video regardless :)
Apparently Nordfab makes a version of their 4” machine adapter that is slightly wider, allowing it to fit these blast gates. So every blast gate required one.
Would you have any info on the UK version? I don't know which Pro Switch to buy, the DOL version or the VFD version?? My dust collector is a Jet 2HP 16A.
Internet WIFI can interfere with the signal. I have one that closes at random if the shop wifi is on my computer. Not a big to me but did make me scratch my head for a while!
Wow that is so cool Mark and something that if it is available in the UK I will be having a look at. Thank you for the video, very interesting and I am like you, "I love this stuff" As an after thought, it is so sad that you have to explain the sponsorship. Are you not allowed to earn a living? Do people even realise that this is your source of income? Frankly, if people don't trust you they can find other things to watch. As your regulars know you are an honest upfront guy. Sorry I went on a bit there but this annoys me. Thank's for being you Mark. Like many I have learned so much from you, Jay, John H and many others.
Ain’t that the truth! As much as I like fiddling around with connected devices, we have so many things that are “connected” that don’t need to be. Just creates more liability.
I bought the Ivac switch box 2 years ago and the relay burned. It seem that i’m not the only one who had that problem. The two breaker are useless. Would’n recommand those product.
Looks like a great product. My question is with the large dust collector is it good to be Turning it on and off when you go from tool to tool? I actually asked about this awhile back on Friday live and you said it wasn’t recommended to cycle the dust collect in and off too much. Thanks for the info!!
Hi Jeff. In order to look after High Power Dust collectors we supply a software update to the iVAC Pro Switch called Minimum Run Time. This ensures that the Dust Collector runs for at least a programed time of 2, 4 or 8 minutes. This avoids over heating of the motor. You can find the details on the iVAC web site. in the 'Tech Corner' ivacswitch.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/High-Power-Dust-Collectors-Minimum-Run-Time.pdf
I don’t recall if your miter saw is connected to your central vac. The blast gate looked a little slow to open. Do you think there would be any issue with quick use tools like the miter saw? I priced this out for my cabinet shop and it quickly became more expensive than I was hoping. Maybe when I build a new shop and get a central vac I’ll check this out again.
William Butler I have one on my miter saw (separate system from my table saw) and what I did was set the off time for a full minute. That way when I'm making multiple cuts it gives me time to grab the next piece of stock or make a measurement or line something up without the collector shutting off right as I'm about to use it again. This minimizes the amount of machine cycling. Also, when I'm just going to make a quick cut I'll spool up the saw for a second to get the collector going so it's already pulling suction when I make the cut. The ivac puts a slight delay on DC startup so you don't have the inrush of the tool and the dust collector hitting your electrical system at the same time.
The sensors don’t care about the tool voltage. They just clamp to the power cord. As for the contractor, that just something that allows a high power 220 tool to accept on/off commands from a lower power switch. I don’t give wiring advice but if you google around you should find info on it.
I would normally say this is a luxury item but I keep accidentally leaving blast gates open on other machines and my dust collector isn't powerful enough to compensate, so then my jointer backs up and pukes chips into my face and it takes me 10 mins to get them all out. I think the price is ok. I know what goes into that and I think it could be lower but I get why it isn't.
So you only make free videos when you're paid to do so now? J/K, do I get a free guild project now? Seriously though, always appreciate your candor and openness on this kind of thing.
Hey Marc. Marc. Hey Marc. I have a product that I have invented that I am hoping you can sell on your site. It's a dust collector that ignites the dust as it's generated so that you never have to empty anything. We could call it the wwDustIgniter2000. I'm willing to cut you in, 95/5. Look forward to hearing from you.
This guy on reddit built his own automated system with an arduino: www.reddit.com/r/woodworking/comments/9teedm/arduino_controller_dust_collection_blast_gate
Lol....I thought it was spelled $ELLOUT. #learntospell. FYI..I appreciate the disclosure and I do trust your opinion. At this point I trust you don’t accept sponsorship from products or companies you don’t believe in. Thanks!
Honestly not sure I’d want a wifi-based system that controls a safety-related device in my shop. Wifi Isn’t exactly the pinnacle of reliability. I’d put more faith in RF.
I suppose you would say it is something that iVAC cooked up over ten years ago. It is 434Mhz FM modulation. There are over 30,000 systems in the field and therefore to maintain backwards compatibility it is not easy to change. @@laurawerner
Mark, I wish you’d back away from promoting these super high cost gimmicks and stay with shop made jigs that will get the job done for under $50. These fancy dust collection setups that would add $1800 to my dust collection system cost or replace a perfectly functional Biesemier fence with a different fence for another $350 or more make me worry about your allegiances. Have you become a high end huckster in your old age? I admit, I might try out and maybe even keep a freebie from them but I wouldn’t be making a full video touting their overpriced offerings.
Dennis, I think you're letting your personal distaste for expensive things cloud your vision and memory. I have been using and talking about expensive tools since the beginning. In my earliest productions, you'll see brands like Lie Nielsen, Festool, and Powermatic. So if you think I'm a high-end huckster now, you should think I've been a high-end huckster since day one. I did a full video because that's what iVac paid for and I liked the product. There's no gimmick here. It does what it says it does. If it's not for you, then move along. I'm baffled by your need to leave a comment like this. You, yourself, admit that you'd keep it if it was sent to you. So if you had a channel on RUclips with lots of subscribers, you'd be lying if you say that you wouldn't also do a video advertisement for them if they were willing to pay for it. And there's certainly no reason to question my allegiances. I make my allegiances known and I'm completely transparent in my dealings with companies. By the way, can't wait to see your suggestion for how to get this done with shop-made jigs for under $50. lol
The Wood Whisperer Yes, Mark, I totally agree. I have always thought you were a high end equipment huckster since the beginning. I still enjoyed your projects which is why I still watch. When you get past the pitching I do learn from your projects even though I’ve been a hobbyist in woodworking for almost 60 years. The difference is that now the pitching is for stuff that 99% of your viewers can’t afford. That places it in the ‘over the top’ category. Seriously, what hobbyist is going to shell out $1800 or more to improve or customize a dust collection system that already works but you just have to manually close a gate and/or manually push a button on your remote to start it or turn it off? The audience for that has to be extremely small. Just because I admire Festools for their quality and good design, doesn’t mean I’ll ever shell out the $$$$$$ for their gear any more than I would shell out $250K for a Mercedes AMG or a $350 fence to replace my Biesemier which works just great. FYI, I do own a Powermatic drill press - got it for 25% of new price on CraigsList. It works fine but doesn’t drill holes any quicker or better than my old Grizzly. My reason for upgrading was I wanted a floor model with more power and this was cheaper than a new Grizzly. None of my jigs have ever cost me more than $50 LOL. I have 8 of them for different equipment including a cross cut sled for the table saw, a table for my drill press built of free plans from WoodSmithShop, a trammel arm for my router and a circle cutting jig both from New Yankee Workshop (thanks Norm). If you can get the high end stuff free for pitching their products, please don’t feel offended - It’s your choice. I said in the first comment I would do the same. I just wish you would point out in advance that this entire video is an ad for very pricey stuff that 99% of you won’t ever consider buying for your hobby shop. Then I might still watch it out of curiosity and wouldn’t think twice about your motives. Thanks for your thoughtful response.
"This episode of the Wood Whisperer is sponsored by iVac" - 0:00 Lengthy disclosure 2:04 First line of the description also has a full disclosure. I feel like your gripe here is a bit self-inflicted. And I'm not offended at all. I'm doing what I've always done. I'm just baffled by the fact that you are taking offense and then asking me to make disclosures that I've already made. In fact, I don't think you'll ever find ANY other content producer making clearer disclosures than I am. I do appreciate candid feedback, but this conversation is getting a little silly. And to be honest, if you really think I'm a huckster, I'd prefer you just stop watching and move on. Lots of other hucksters for you to enjoy on RUclips. No need to torture yourself by enduring me.
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I did a sponsorship with these guys and Rockler a few years back. One of THE best upgrades I've ever done. Has been 100% rock solid and reliable since day one.
Guess what video I watched before doing my install. 😁
Dude! Love your videos Geek Pub!
Correct me of im wrong but if i wanted one of these on every major tool we are talking thousands of dollars?
@@ivac9521 5 that would require these blast gates.
@@ivac9521 i see. I would actually need the 6" and i thought i had to buy the additional sensor and relay switch.
Dude, this is awesome. I appreciate the disclosure of your relationship. I trust your opinion as an influencer because you're always so transparent about these things. Also, in response to the last Wood Talk episode, your "curmudgeon-like" banter is hilarious and does not distract from your obvious love for this hobby. Thanks for being awesome.
I have had an ivac control system on my dust collection for many years now (just the remote switches, not the gates). It has been flawless the entire time. I recently added a second system and I got another ivac switch for that new system and because of the multiple frequencies they can run without interfering with each other. I find it be a very convenient system and well worth the investment.
Marc, For what it’s worth I appreciate the full disclosure on the products. I realize some would think it’s blasphemy, but this is how you support your family. Good for you to be good enough in which corporations seek you out. Your skills certainly didn’t happen overnight and it’s payment well earned. It’s a win/win in my mind - you get a product you enjoy and respect, the company gets honest advertising, the viewers get a look see at what they may want or need. This is definitely going on the need list for the she shed when it’s built. Thanks!
Even with your complete transparency about the nature of your relationship with the company, this review was well-informed and excellently conducted. A win-win for the creator and the viewer. Thanks Mark!
Enjoyed the iVac video. Your disclaimer at the beginning was welcome but not necessary for me as I’ve watched your content for many years.
I have a small hobby shop where “I’m a maker of fine sawdust and the occasional useful project,” with only three blast gates in my dust collection system. Even so, I have the iVac controller with remote for my dust collector. It makes it safer and easier to always use the system. Would love to have the three gates automated, but that’s beyond the budget in my shop. After all, I give everything away to the kids, grandkids, and friends with no incoming revenue. And I’m OK with that!
Dude, thank you for taking a stand on endorsements. I hope the rest of the community follows your lead. Its hard to know who to trust.
Edit: Forget the haters with their shop vac sticks. If iVac paid me to install this system I’d be all over it. #techjunkie Haha
Way out of my range as an entry level woodworker, but as a software developer this system really makes me happy.
Glad to see you getting into this system. Ive been using Ivac for a couple of years and absolutely love it. They are great to help you if you have problems. One of the techs worked with me for hours on the phone trying to solve a quirky issue. We eventually got it worked out and it has been flawless since. Great people !
@@ivac9521 See, this is the kind of thing that makes me love a company! I never expected a reply, but here you go once again impressing me. Keep it up!
Appreciate the clarity. I hate it when April Wilkerson just says "Oh yeah we worked togheter to install this 50.000$ AC unit"
Roger V - Agreed. The retail cost on the overhead doors she “partnered with Wayne Dalton” on for her new shop is more than the entire 20x40 bricked workshop I’m currently wrapping up. I know she doesn’t intentionally gloss over her sponsor deals, but it is annoying at times.
Things cost what they cost, either I can afford them or I can’t. It makes no difference to me what a RUclips content creator paid, or didn’t pay, for goods and services. It’s not like anyone on tv is disclosing the nature of their relationship with a sponsor. This Old House is sponsored by GMC, does it matter how much the trucks they drive are worth or what the nature of their relationship is? That’s kinda their business, not anyone else’s, IMHO.
I used to like watching her videos. Now she reminds me of those annoying brand ambassadors in college.
But why does it matter? Are you watching specifically to see if you can afford the products she uses? I think i'm in the minority, but this is no different than watching someone on TV. It's an avenue to income for them. I can always sort of see the product placement, or the advertising gimmick, but it's just me understanding that's part of their revenue stream.
Jay Kallenbach eh, different strokes for different folks I suppose. You still like watching, I don’t. The world keeps turning.
I have had the Ivac system in my shop for several years and I have had zero issues with it. I have been thinking of upgrading it to the style they have now. There is nothing wrong with what I have now but my nephew is in the process of setting up his own hobby wood shop so I thought maybe I would give him my system and get the current system for myself.... He doesn’t have the budget for it right now and I have been giving him some of my older tools that to help him get set up...
Good review and disclosure. I looked at this when I installed my cyclone but all the blast gates, sensors and additional recepticals would have cost as much as my cyclone. My system came with a remote to turn it off or on, good enough. Just remember to open the gate.
Got sick of forgetting to open/close gates. Have had the iVac for a year - life is good! The product is well made and the tech support is excellent.
Might have to install one of these in our shop.
I appreciate the honesty of the relationship between you and the companies who support you. Also I can't afford this in my shop, so I literally got nothing out of this video. 😉😉 I'm kidding of course.
I've been considering building a new shop from ground up, new building ( out of my basement, lol ) some new tools and new and better dust collection system. This appears to be the very thing I want in my new shop, & apart of the new dust collection. This is definitely something I will look further into if I am able to take my new shop planes from paper to reality. Thank you for this video. Very informative!
You had me salivating when you started talking about a sponsored video; I was really hoping that meant iVac was going to offer a promo code. As you to continue to talk to them, it would be awesome if they did! I've been considering it for years, but at $250/ea for the 6" blast gates, it's a big investment.
I'll see what we can do.
The Wood Whisperer ...that really should be top-of-mind for any sponsor. A promo discount is really the only the call to action on these videos for them - if they don’t offer it they’re wasting a Golden opportunity to pick up customers (and more referrals).
I agree. I bought one of their remotes for controlling my dust collector without having to walk over to the switch. I love it. But their blast gates are just crazy expensive! Each tool would be over $300 for the blast gate and tool sensor. That's more than some of my older tools cost!
Once I get all my duct runs completed, I'm going to experiment with an Arduino-based solution that would be way, way cheaper. There's a RUclips video (ruclips.net/video/D1JWH425o7c/видео.html) where someone shows how he automated his dust collection system with an Arduino and some servos and relays. He even gives away the source code.
@@ivac9521 That would help some, but about half of my tools have 5" or 6" drops, so I'd need your 6" blast gates, which only come in metal/$$$. One of these days I'm going to try a DIY, Arduino- or Raspberry Pi-based dust collection automation project.
For a professional woodworker, it totally makes sense to just install a full iVac system and get on with building cabinets or furniture and making money. But for a hobbyist who also likes tinkering with computers and electronics (i.e. me and probably many other viewers), a DIY solution is attractive.
I don't mind paying premium prices for nice tools, or even for high-end ducting (e.g. Nordfab). In those cases there are a lot of alternatives and I know what I'm getting for the extra money. But in a case like this where it seems like prices are high mostly because there's little / no competition, not so much. Though to be fair, iVac's prices for automated blast gates are _way_ lower than Nordfab's 😀
Very cool system the blast gates are so smooth when opening or closing.
Really appreciate this review and while at this time it's beyond my budget, it's nice to see there are options out there for full automation and something to strive towards. Everyone has their own budget so there shouldn't be any trolls on this one LOL. Anyway thanks for sharing, love this solution!
Thank you for the disclosure. I really appreciate the fact you disclose its a sponsored video.
Great review and installation vid Marc and I wish I would’ve went this route when I did my video on the system. Just so you know if you ever have any issues with the system or any of it’s components don’t hesitate to contact them. They have some of the best customer service out there and they will take care of you.
Looking forward to an update in the future once you've been living with the system for a while. Thanks Marc!
I posted a little blurb in the description about my experience so far. It's been about 5 weeks now.
Got mine a few weeks ago, haven't had time to install but definitely worth it if you have blastgates and/or tools where there is hard to reach ducting.
As a viewer i appreciate your openness and honesty to why and how you are doing the video on the product of course i am in no means against anyone making a living or a profit on a product but its nice to know you are. Endorsing something you. Really are using and have installed otherwise the whole RUclips thing. Turns. Out to be kind of like one big Informercial which has kind of happened when they. Changed the way they paid the. Channels o the sponsorships not that long ago not necessarily your channel but certainly many others i followed
Glad you’re upfront about your relationship with the manufacturer, but it would also be nice to hear to say that you would call out any problems yo may run into with the products and maybe a comparison to competing products if you have any experience with them. Thanks.
The Vac in our shop is ancient, I am not even remotely sure what type it is.
Awesome video. Been interested in this since you mentioned it on IG. I love the openness with the relationships.
Great video! Automated blast gates are the only way
Hey Mark. Been watching for a bit because I'm about to start fiddling with wood working in my retirement years. I've read every comment as of 'this' comment, and tbh I'm not surprised at all at the negative comments; don't agree with them, just not surprised. The reason I'm not surprised is because I realized two (2) important things a long time ago. 1. People watching YT videos are too damn lazy (or possibly just too stupid) to click on the "Show More" button in the description and actually read the damn thing. 2. People get so damned butt-hurt nowadays about other people getting free stuff because they (those other people) have a successful YT channel and they (the butt-hurt people) don't; I believe this in large part results from simple jealousy tbh.
I retired at 53 and am about to turn 56. My point is that I've watched a LOT of YT videos over the previous couple of years. BY FAR... You are one of, if not the most transparent YTers I have come across when it comes to endorsements. Just from "listening to what you say" in the video, I gather these companies may be paying you to use their products, but they sure aren't "buying your opinion" on the matter. And if deciphering that from the video is too GD hard for most people, you specifically spell it out, in English no less, right there in the description. Alas, our society has become one of the laziest that has ever existed since we were put on this earth.
Anyway, good video none-the-less. And fyi... I'll be filling my shop mostly with Powermatic and Festool based on watching your videos and then doing some followup research on my own. I'll be ordering a new PM jointer next week and am excited to start building some stuff. I already have a lot of the other basic tools just from being a contractor, so I'll use them for now. But if this wood working bug "grabs a-hold of my balls" so-to-speak, I'm going to put the Dewalt stuff away and fill my shop with Powermatic tools. Thanks for what you do.
The remote is a robot head!!
beep bop boop.
So which one of you two will be first to have C-3PO as your shop apprentice?
@@woodwhisperer Please,there are young woodworkers looking up to you!
Beep,bop,boop indeed.
I have a question regarding the blast gate always open feature. Lets say i have 4 electronic blast gates in my duct system and two blast gates that are non electric. If i open my non electric blast gate, will i be able to shut all 4 electric gates and override the always open feature? Thank you for your time.
How well does this setup work if 2 people are in your shop using different tools? If I'm running the table saw and my wife is on a sander, is the system smart enough to keep both blast gates open?
Also, is it possible to configure 2 of the sensors to operate 1 blast gate? The use case for that would be me having 2 tools close together with 2" dust ports. I dont mind these two tools sharing the same 4" blast gate. So I would turn on either or both of my drill press and router table and the single blast gate would open.
How does it an handle an instance of material getting stuck in the gate while its trying to close? Does it try to close for X amount of seconds and throw an error? The same issue would also come up in the case of broken linkage.
The video is awesome, I just purchased all the stuff. My question to you is where did you get the extra power cords, they look factory. I know that the controller came with a nice looking power cord, but the other 2???
Now that is pretty slick! It's amazing to see things like these come out to the market like this. Hmmmm what will they come out with next? 🤔 next big tool to make jointery easier (domino), or another way to cut wood that will improve the table saw... hmmm if i can think of it, ill be rich $$$$
I'm having serious issues with the Tool Address 1 (Always Open Blast Gate) blast gate. It works fine whenever I'm using any of the other tools (Tool Address 2-8, Blast gate 1 closes whenever I turn them on and opens after they close) but whenever I'm finished using Tool 1 (Blaste Gate 1) it closes for about 2 seconds and won't allow air flow to my extractor, maybe 2 seconds won't damage the components of my extractor but I can't figure out why it doesn't stay open.
Cool stuff...always love these video's Marc as you are honest about everything!
Tell me more about modifying for a 220 circuit. What is a contacter?
Can you use the plastic version the blast gate on spiral ducting? They're a lot cheaper
It's so funny that someone gets bent out of shape about your sponsorship. Anyone who follows you knows that content creation, advertising, and these types of relationships are what allow you to make your living. Yet they watch you on RUclips which helps your numbers, which helps make you money too. I guess that's irony? :D
Cool video regardless :)
I missed the video about the cyclone switch. Why did you ditch the Clear Vue?
Did you have to buy nordfab flange pieces and modify the ivac system to fit with your ducting? How's did you connect them to the nordab?
Apparently Nordfab makes a version of their 4” machine adapter that is slightly wider, allowing it to fit these blast gates. So every blast gate required one.
Would you have any info on the UK version? I don't know which Pro Switch to buy, the DOL version or the VFD version?? My dust collector is a Jet 2HP 16A.
This looks like a great system, I am not sure if it is available in the UK. Some research required.
Great disclosure practice! Thanks for the informative video
Yep that is cool! Nice video. Have a stress free weekend!
I wish they offered 2.5" versions of the automated blast gate.
Cool product! It looks very well made.
Seem like awesome products, really cool Marc! 😃👍👊
Thanks, Fred!
this is a hell of a fancy system!
Is there an option for hardwired machines? Half my machines are turn of the century 3 phase cast iron giants.
Sweet system man, me and my dad are still using the old push broom in our videos.
Nothing wrong with that!
Any thoughts on plastic vs metal blast gates?
Internet WIFI can interfere with the signal. I have one that closes at random if the shop wifi is on my computer. Not a big to me but did make me scratch my head for a while!
It's been a year now. How is the system holding up?
Wow that is so cool Mark and something that if it is available in the UK I will be having a look at. Thank you for the video, very interesting and I am like you, "I love this stuff"
As an after thought, it is so sad that you have to explain the sponsorship. Are you not allowed to earn a living? Do people even realise that this is your source of income? Frankly, if people don't trust you they can find other things to watch. As your regulars know you are an honest upfront guy. Sorry I went on a bit there but this annoys me.
Thank's for being you Mark. Like many I have learned so much from you, Jay, John H and many others.
@@ivac9521 Thank's I'll take a gander. Much obliged to you good sir (Or madam)
I like this product because it's not an internet of stings (or internet of things-which-shouldn't-be-on-the-internet) product.
Ain’t that the truth! As much as I like fiddling around with connected devices, we have so many things that are “connected” that don’t need to be. Just creates more liability.
I bought the Ivac switch box 2 years ago and the relay burned. It seem that i’m not the only one who had that problem. The two breaker are useless. Would’n recommand those product.
Looks like a great product. My question is with the large dust collector is it good to be Turning it on and off when you go from tool to tool? I actually asked about this awhile back on Friday live and you said it wasn’t recommended to cycle the dust collect in and off too much. Thanks for the info!!
I mentioned this in the video. It has settings for turn off time. I have 45 seconds to fire up the next tool before the system shuts off.
Hi Jeff. In order to look after High Power Dust collectors we supply a software update to the iVAC Pro Switch called Minimum Run Time. This ensures that the Dust Collector runs for at least a programed time of 2, 4 or 8 minutes. This avoids over heating of the motor.
You can find the details on the iVAC web site. in the 'Tech Corner' ivacswitch.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/High-Power-Dust-Collectors-Minimum-Run-Time.pdf
Great video mark! Thanks!!
I don’t recall if your miter saw is connected to your central vac. The blast gate looked a little slow to open. Do you think there would be any issue with quick use tools like the miter saw?
I priced this out for my cabinet shop and it quickly became more expensive than I was hoping. Maybe when I build a new shop and get a central vac I’ll check this out again.
William Butler I have one on my miter saw (separate system from my table saw) and what I did was set the off time for a full minute. That way when I'm making multiple cuts it gives me time to grab the next piece of stock or make a measurement or line something up without the collector shutting off right as I'm about to use it again. This minimizes the amount of machine cycling. Also, when I'm just going to make a quick cut I'll spool up the saw for a second to get the collector going so it's already pulling suction when I make the cut. The ivac puts a slight delay on DC startup so you don't have the inrush of the tool and the dust collector hitting your electrical system at the same time.
I've had the 4" plastic gate for a while- didn't realise there a was a metal 4" gate
How did you address the the 220 to 110? What is a contactor and how did you install that? And can you install that to any 220 tool like a table saw?
The sensors don’t care about the tool voltage. They just clamp to the power cord. As for the contractor, that just something that allows a high power 220 tool to accept on/off commands from a lower power switch. I don’t give wiring advice but if you google around you should find info on it.
You can find the details of the iVAC Contactor at www.ivacswitch.com/ivac-contactor/
man, i really want to add a blaat gate. I have their remote switch only and love it though.
Awesome 👍🏼👍🏼. I love these review videos.
Very cool. How many of those gates can you have in one system?
8. But there is a way to add a second switch in order to add more gates.
The Wood Whisperer thanks.
I like the idea, but have too small a shop. I don't have the space to run permanent ducting.
What would be nice is if your subscribes could get a 20% discount, lol. We subs appreciate your disclosure... But your rep is solid
I would normally say this is a luxury item but I keep accidentally leaving blast gates open on other machines and my dust collector isn't powerful enough to compensate, so then my jointer backs up and pukes chips into my face and it takes me 10 mins to get them all out. I think the price is ok. I know what goes into that and I think it could be lower but I get why it isn't.
At $258 a gate I would be out thousands of dollars. I do use the remote for turning on the dust collector but I will manually close the gates.
So you only make free videos when you're paid to do so now? J/K, do I get a free guild project now? Seriously though, always appreciate your candor and openness on this kind of thing.
Nice Georgie boy!!!
Good video. AMAZING shirt. ;)
Super cool!!!
Are these videos for hobby woodworkers or professionals ? Seems like an expensive set up for a home hobby
They are for whoever wants to watch them. 😁
Hey Marc. Marc. Hey Marc. I have a product that I have invented that I am hoping you can sell on your site. It's a dust collector that ignites the dust as it's generated so that you never have to empty anything. We could call it the wwDustIgniter2000. I'm willing to cut you in, 95/5. Look forward to hearing from you.
Vandelay Industries! Ha Ha!!! Where can I get one of those shirts?
Add a WiFi controller so you can configure using your smartphone and you really have a great system.
Oh now we're talkin'!
Interesting but far too expensive and complicated for a small shop like mine.
WB Fine Woodworking
Totally agree!
I just noticed that you haven't stopped the aging process over the years. EDIT: This is not a negative comment.
👍👍👍👍
There's an "iSuck" joke or two in here.....
This guy on reddit built his own automated system with an arduino: www.reddit.com/r/woodworking/comments/9teedm/arduino_controller_dust_collection_blast_gate
Want!!!!
Love the shirt bro. #vandalayindustries #Seinfeld
Sure is pricey!
Amazon has the iVac Automated Vacuum Switch rated at 3 stars, so I don't think I will be buying their products.
6:27 commercial, I know why I quit watching your videos.
#sellout. Hahaha love the videos
You spelled it wrong. It's sssssssssssssellout.
Lol....I thought it was spelled $ELLOUT. #learntospell.
FYI..I appreciate the disclosure and I do trust your opinion. At this point I trust you don’t accept sponsorship from products or companies you don’t believe in. Thanks!
sellout
Hells yeah!! 🤑 💵 💃🏼
Too proprietary technology. Wi-fi is the way to go. They will fail. Dip switches. Hello? Dip switches. What a joke.
Honestly not sure I’d want a wifi-based system that controls a safety-related device in my shop. Wifi Isn’t exactly the pinnacle of reliability. I’d put more faith in RF.
@@woodwhisperer Do you know what wireless protocol the iVac units use to talk to each other? Zigbee maybe, or something iVac cooked up themselves?
RF
I suppose you would say it is something that iVAC cooked up over ten years ago. It is 434Mhz FM modulation. There are over 30,000 systems in the field and therefore to maintain backwards compatibility it is not easy to change.
@@laurawerner
@@ganivac1103 Interesting, thanks!
I've had 2 iVac switches and they both broke within 3 months. Pure crap
Who did you contact at iVAC when the products failed?
Superfluo.
Mark, I wish you’d back away from promoting these super high cost gimmicks and stay with shop made jigs that will get the job done for under $50. These fancy dust collection setups that would add $1800 to my dust collection system cost or replace a perfectly functional Biesemier fence with a different fence for another $350 or more make me worry about your allegiances. Have you become a high end huckster in your old age? I admit, I might try out and maybe even keep a freebie from them but I wouldn’t be making a full video touting their overpriced offerings.
Dennis, I think you're letting your personal distaste for expensive things cloud your vision and memory. I have been using and talking about expensive tools since the beginning. In my earliest productions, you'll see brands like Lie Nielsen, Festool, and Powermatic. So if you think I'm a high-end huckster now, you should think I've been a high-end huckster since day one. I did a full video because that's what iVac paid for and I liked the product. There's no gimmick here. It does what it says it does. If it's not for you, then move along. I'm baffled by your need to leave a comment like this. You, yourself, admit that you'd keep it if it was sent to you. So if you had a channel on RUclips with lots of subscribers, you'd be lying if you say that you wouldn't also do a video advertisement for them if they were willing to pay for it. And there's certainly no reason to question my allegiances. I make my allegiances known and I'm completely transparent in my dealings with companies. By the way, can't wait to see your suggestion for how to get this done with shop-made jigs for under $50. lol
The Wood Whisperer Yes, Mark, I totally agree. I have always thought you were a high end equipment huckster since the beginning. I still enjoyed your projects which is why I still watch. When you get past the pitching I do learn from your projects even though I’ve been a hobbyist in woodworking for almost 60 years. The difference is that now the pitching is for stuff that 99% of your viewers can’t afford. That places it in the ‘over the top’ category. Seriously, what hobbyist is going to shell out $1800 or more to improve or customize a dust collection system that already works but you just have to manually close a gate and/or manually push a button on your remote to start it or turn it off? The audience for that has to be extremely small.
Just because I admire Festools for their quality and good design, doesn’t mean I’ll ever shell out the $$$$$$ for their gear any more than I would shell out $250K for a Mercedes AMG or a $350 fence to replace my Biesemier which works just great. FYI, I do own a Powermatic drill press - got it for 25% of new price on CraigsList. It works fine but doesn’t drill holes any quicker or better than my old Grizzly. My reason for upgrading was I wanted a floor model with more power and this was cheaper than a new Grizzly. None of my jigs have ever cost me more than $50 LOL. I have 8 of them for different equipment including a cross cut sled for the table saw, a table for my drill press built of free plans from WoodSmithShop, a trammel arm for my router and a circle cutting jig both from New Yankee Workshop (thanks Norm).
If you can get the high end stuff free for pitching their products, please don’t feel offended - It’s your choice. I said in the first comment I would do the same. I just wish you would point out in advance that this entire video is an ad for very pricey stuff that 99% of you won’t ever consider buying for your hobby shop. Then I might still watch it out of curiosity and wouldn’t think twice about your motives.
Thanks for your thoughtful response.
"This episode of the Wood Whisperer is sponsored by iVac" - 0:00 Lengthy disclosure 2:04 First line of the description also has a full disclosure. I feel like your gripe here is a bit self-inflicted. And I'm not offended at all. I'm doing what I've always done. I'm just baffled by the fact that you are taking offense and then asking me to make disclosures that I've already made. In fact, I don't think you'll ever find ANY other content producer making clearer disclosures than I am. I do appreciate candid feedback, but this conversation is getting a little silly. And to be honest, if you really think I'm a huckster, I'd prefer you just stop watching and move on. Lots of other hucksters for you to enjoy on RUclips. No need to torture yourself by enduring me.
Nice! a paid infomercial. "but wait...there's more...You will need to sell your soul (our first born) to afford this system".