Every time I watch one of these videos, the sheer power of that red Telecaster amazes me. That thing is a beast. Great show, guys, and some thundering tones from that Analog Drive pedal.
Great show as usual! Thanks guys. I can't wait for the attenuators comparison episode! Also I would love to see an episode about Microphone positioning on guitar amps and Open Back and Closed Back cabs and also in general the room acoustics. --- This will help many I'm sure. Microphones positioning can be a very subjective topic but there are some rules based on the type of microphones and speakers being used and because your shows have some of the best sounds, it can shed the needed lights for many people out there who are not sure how to do it properly. Thanks again!
I have this combi now and it is awesom. My compact pedal board: Polytune mini, AMT SS11 B preamp, Elektron analog drive, H9 Max, TC Hall of fame reverb, EHX Magnum 44 poweramp. Boss ES 5 pedal switcher. Only the analog drive is in the looper though. The midi on de Boss ES is the most important function i use to control the Elektron and the H9.
Funny enough, I've consistently bought less pedals since watching TPS. I'm actually selling most of mine and going down to only 4 or 5 pedals. I guess it has a lot to do with asking better questions. Great episode guys! This pedal seems like a perfect fit for dudes running the Strymon Stryfecta rig (Mobius, Timeline, Bigsky) that want to get a lot out of only a few boxes. Paired with a G2, there isn't a whole lot you couldn't do with a rig like that...
+Jake Stewart Music that's awesome Jake, you can bet my mind was running overtime playing with this thing, incredible tones, and sooooo great with G2 :)
Definitely a rig to rule the world with. Yeah guys, my rig is largely based off of stuff you feature on the show, too. Xotic wah. Cali 76 Compact, Chicago Iron Octavian Plus, King of Tone, and ARDX20. 4/5 have been regular appearances on the show. That board into a Carr Rambler (lush verb and trem in there) and happy days. Next up is a proper tape delay, a re-housed Hammond vibrato in a box, and a Vibratone to complete the rig.
3 Source Audios (Gemini, Nemesis, Vertigo), a comp, regular Fuzz and/or Big Muff (split the difference and get a RAT or Vick V-2), a Treble Booster and my beloved Line6 M5, MIDI loop switcher - done. Probably want to keep one legit analog delay (Nemesis isn't so hot n the analog delay algorithms) and one favourite OD on there as well (Selah Scarlett Love would be a good one as it's a 3-in-1) and - done.
So as luke warm as I felt about the Riverside, I getting MAJOR GAS for this. This feels like everything the Riverside promised to be and a ton more. And the fact that you can preset a load of different gain structures and trigger the changes through midi... amazing. And it sounds just amazing... I don't think there was a bad sound in the box. Would have been interesting to hear it through a Marshall-Style amp, but wow!!! Now I've got to work out what I can sell to get this on my board...
You guys should really, REALLY start opening pedals up !!! Also, I've been wanting to suggest this.I recently got into diy pedal making, and I've stepped into a whole now dimension!!!!!(and money sinkhole).The community is HUGE btw.So, maybe a cool topic for a show would be DIY pedals, mods, and yes the "gray" area of clones :P I understand its a sensitive subject, but after messing with it for a few months I'd advise ANY guitar player to start diy'ing.I now understand a lot more of the stuff you guys chat about (low hfe germanium Q1,silicon Q2 fuzz face, I'd think you were talking Klingon if i heard that a few months ago :D)
+Webgkil Thanks for the suggestion. It's a massive, deep subject. It's not something that interests me particularly (Mick here) as I get precious little time to play as it is. Spending time building (and thinking about building and talking about building) would eat into that too much. Making videos for RUclips has nearly killed it entirely already! ;0) Dan may have more interest in that world. Thanks for watching!
If you mean DIY pedal building, there's enough online about it already - we couldn't add anything to the immensely detailed info already out there. If you mean clones and all that, it's really simple for us. There are artisans and there are corporations and sometimes the two are the same thing. After that it's just down to how creative you are, how letigious you are and how deep your pockets are. We all care about it in different ways. Dan and I tend to like things built by credible humans who are dedicated to their craft. They tend to be expensive as a result! But all the moral arguments - totally pointless as we all have different morals. Cheers!
If you mean Brian, it'd be great to talk to him about anything and everything. In fact we should start a series of interviews with key people... Cheers Jason - see you in sunny Anaheim!
Yep. The Elektron is what the Riverside should be. I still can't put my finger on what but there's "something missing" when the Riverside kicks in. We're talking the difference between hair and fur but its there. Then again, just that little tube screamer on it's own would be enough to keep you entertained for hours. Great show as always. Cheers guys.
Another great video guys. Honestly, even just the playing is good on it's own. With the added bonus of the funny bits and all the info, That Pedal Show is without doubt my favourite RUclips channel. I appreciate the hard work you guys put in and how long it takes, but I still find myself wishing for more than one full episode and one comparison video a week! It's always awesome when Friday rolls around and we get another TPS installment.
really not sure if most followers of this show understand just how talented these two are in matching tones. Way more than just knob twisters....very versatile guitar players too but the ability to tweak these things and get very different pedals to sound so similar is amazing.
@@hermano.8118 I'd love to hear what you guys think. My initially messing around is yielding good results. The presets need some tweaking but the drives themselves are impressive.
I LOVE this show and this pedal. I bought after watching this video and I could not be happier. It is a dream overdrive. You guys are killing it with this show and you're damn good players. Cheers!
For anyone who uses a Boss ES8/ES5 , or any other loopswitcher that doesnt have pre or post gain per loop, this pedal is a Godsend. (GigRig 2 excluded! :-) Fantastic to be able to adjust each O/D patch's levels from within the pedal and recall them with midi pc and all in 1 loop! Freeing up all the other loops for any other pedal madness you desire!
SMT (surface mount technology) for guitar pedals is getting really impressive now. I used to turn my nose to any pedal that didn't use full size components because I like to modify them myself, and also thought SMT components couldn't bring the tonez like bigger caps and resistors. But things are changing!
Christopher Anderson , i also did grab one at 89 Euro's from Thomann. What a bargain!! Such a great device! Also the midi function is a great feature. Together with my AMT preamp and the Eventide H9 i can get almost any sound!
That Pedal Show , best buy ever! 89 Euro's at from Thomann. Covers everything i need! I even managed to get it almost sound the same as the Van Weelden Royal Overdrive, wich was my main overdrive pedal; sold this one now.
Another excellent episode. Thanks. That Elektron goes for $359US. As you say, not crazy expensive given the ground it covers. Really appreciate that you guys apply different guitars during the video. Even when you don't specifically comment on it, I still learn so much about how different guitars and pickups work with each pedal.
If I have to Take just 3 Pedals to a gig - ( Elektron Analog Drive, Boss DD-500 & Strymon Mobius ) = all bases covered. This is a lifesaver ( not to mention ) the Flexibility in a Recording environment. I may grab one? ( not easily impressed ). . . Really Impressed. Great job with showcasing the versatility.
@@michael_caz_nyc No problem, I just picked one up myself since I have their Digitakt and was completely impressed with it. Thought I'd check it out and hope I didn't waste my money and, lo and behold, one of the very few Pedal Shows I've missed. Pleasantly surprised!
Just want to say love the show, keep up the good work! Today where more and more music sales are online, "that pedal show" and other similar videos are just great for those of us that want to shop from our computer screen! Thanks again!
It's a weird one about the Riverside. On a lot of the RUclips videos it can sound a bit fizzy (not here though), and in real life it sounds awesome. I've got one and it kicked off a Earthquaker Palisades of my board. Wonder if it's best just going into a totally clean amp? I'd agree though, they're totally prepping for a 'big box' version.
For most of this video I was thinking this is fun, but this is a product I would never buy. But for the price, to have every flavor of overdrive I'd want, it really isn't a bad deal at all. It appears to be $359 in the U.S. That's the cost of what- three good priced pedals, two higher end boutiquish pedals? The ability to stack them into each other would seal the deal, but even without, so you have one clean boost in front of all of them. No big deal. Fun video, as always.
Thank you. It sounded great! Especially liked the parametric EQ! Throughout the video, I kept wondering if the various pedals/presets would be stack-able. Then Dan mentioned it doesn't have that capability. IMO... That would be something cool to see in a v.2ifyou will. I love mixing, matching and tweaking with stacked pedals! Really love your videos. Thanks for making Friday mornings great!
+Judd Alexander cheers Judd, yep, but tbh, this and a couple of boosters... not much it won't do. You're right, stacking is key to some truly spectacular tones
I think an episode on pitch shifters would be interesting and helpful. There are some great new pedals like the Sub N' Up, Digi Tech Ricochet, and Electro-Harmonix Pitch Fork. Discussing how pitch shifters differ from Octave pedals and outlining concepts about latency and polyphonic might make a good show. Keep up the good work guys!
+Chad Garmany Hi Chad, we did an episode on octave pedals a few months back which included a bit on the SubNUp. But yes, it's a topic into which we could dive deeper. Dan's definitely in charge for that one - not my thing at all. Thanks for watching!
The Riverside is the first overdrive pedal with a "credible digital element to it"? I would suggest that Source Audio LA Lady is highly credible. maybe worth having a look at if you're going to expand on programable / presets overdrives.
That Elektron sounds amazing. If you do the LA Lady please include the fact that it will stack two different overdrives or split them in stereo and that it will also do all the Kingmaker Fuzz algorithms when you use the app
I second all this. Source Audio has had digital skin in this game for previous to Elektron and Strymon (bless their hearts) going back to the Soundblox Classic Distortion & Soundblox 2 OFD. Let's not forget the game changing Multiwave Distortion. The One Series pedals are the next gen of these brave endeavors.
Hey guys, I find TPS a great show to watch on youtube but for some reason I can't seem to find a video on your channel on building a board, right now I got my pedals standing on the ground and if I'd go rehearse I have to chuck them all in a bag, so time to build a board. I think you would be the best channel for a good explaining on pro's and cons, power supplies, multiple levels, homebuild vs. prebuild etc.. Could you perhaps help out? Keep up the awesome vids!
Can it do these OD tones? Boss BD-2 Bluesbreaker (eg POT, Snouse Black Box, Tapestry Fab Suisse) Dumble-ish (eg Jetter gear pedals, too many to name that are D-style) If so, I'm in.
The boys are back in town! Happy 2017 guys. T-Shirt size stable, humidity bonkers. Glad these pedals are ruinously expensive here as I'd be tempted otherwise, that sounds really versatile.
Dan - completely agree that as it's programmable which can be recalled by midi it is amazing. BUT for the many of us that have already bought our boutique pedals already, I don't think we could bare to part with them 😳 Wish that pedal was around a few months back, it would have saved me so much trouble !!! Great video again - thanks. Fuzz T ordered ✌🏻
+Ed Parker yeah, for me as for many I already have all those sounds multiple times over, and they're my sounds of you know what I mean, BUT this is very powerful specially with that eq section, amazing stuff
Biggest drawback for gigging is the power requirement - 1000mA @ 12VDC, although it comes with a power supply. Just not so convenient if you want to use your pedalboard power supply.
Wow, the Analog Drive is very impressive! I checked out Elektron's site and found the Analog Heat which is VERY tempting for my home studio. Another great video, guys. Cheers!
I've tinkered with the Riverside at length as well as watching demos. I don't love it. The Elektron Analog Drive on the other hand is lovely. That being said, the Tumnus is my favorite pedal on that board.
Station 2Station I would agree that the Tumnus has a tonal edge on the Elektron but having owned the Elektron since Christmas and having a Tumnus too I can honestly say that the difference is very small
Guys you have to try the hot tubes by ehx. I bought one yesterday and it instantly gave me the sound i always wanted. With the overdrive at about half, tone off and the guitar rolled back to around 7,5, that pedal jsut blew my mind.
fantastic matching of tones to the other pedals. I started to feel a bit of ear fatigue with the higher gain tones but they would sound great in a mix. Have you guys ever thought of having a backing track element to your videos? I know it would be an extra effort and expense, but I often find guitar tones on their own to be a bit ugly (unless drenched in ambient effects) and dont demonstrate the tones in the context that most people will hear them. Really enjoy the show every week and the A/B comparison vids are a nice little bonus!
Happy New Year Guys! Have you considered doing a 'behind the scenes' episode? It would be a great help to get an idea of your setup and prep. Keep up the awesome work! JT :)
ray dowley Analog Drive all day, I work in a shop that sells Strymon and unfortunately I found that as good as the Riverside sounds it just doesn't quite feel right, and the other downside is it tends not to stack well with regular analog pedals.
Hi benjamin thanks for the input. but maybe i should step back a little,I'am only a bedroom player do I really need 8 peds plus. my big fear is I find the ped setting I like. then have all the rest sitting there,and me feeling gulity at not using them. or sit there best part of the nght twiddling knobs and not playing as much as I should. by the way my sound is bloos rock. cheers ray
Still undecided about this one, for the price you could bag 2/3 beautiful little gain boxes (seriously the amount you guys go through im never sure which way to go, so many, im only really after a light/mid breakup/ overdrive and a muff). This'll should be the be all and end all of all overdrive flavours, but Im not sure if the fuzz circuit could compare with a dedicated muff? And that form factor and funny power supply requirements bugg me... Anyway loving the show as always guys, keep coming back here as you two do IMO the best job of balancing the technical knowhow/great tones/likeable personalities and attitude into little weekly doses of guitar goodness!
Another excellent demo. Curious to see if Strymon steps up. Dan's riff at 24:46 - 25:03 was awesome. Mick's Hendrix Octavia riff was awesome. Looking forward to more on attenuators (make my wife happier, please!). Perhaps a word or two about power scaling? (Mick seemed to like the Morgan MVP on Paradiso demo.)
+Bruce Elliott We'll get into this on the next round of the Bedroom Tones video. Variable voltage (inside the amp) and external resistive attenuation are worth comparing. Cheers for now and thanks for watching!
Love how simple it is to choose what you want the expression pedal to change. None of that asinine "hold this thing down and rotate the knob and blah blah" business I'm so bad at.
Great video as always. I'd be really interested to hear a comparison of the Elektron, Riverside and the Earthquaker Devices Palisades in terms of getting a tweaked Tubescreamer sound.
VERY INTERESTING! thanks for doing a good comparison of sounds from this multi pedal. I'm surprised you guys haven't got hold of the Keeley tone workstation and the other variables he has made as I know you like the Keeley mods. Also to match up with the John Mayer strat it would be great to to compare with the individual pedals. Enjoy your time at NAMM and I'm sure you will find something INTERESTING there to show us. PS: Happy new year to you both!
That Pedal Show Wow great Dan thanks for the quick response. I'm so excited now that you're going to do that because it will be a big help for me as I'm thinking of getting one. Cheers!
Cheers Mick! It's definitely first my pedal list to go with one of my small single channel amps. I plan to have another day out at Andertons very soon.
Everyone talks about the mid-hump push of tube screamers, but when you put on that mini version, it occurred to me that it's also acting kind of like a compression pedal - is that my imagination?
+VoxPathfinder15R Yeah definitely. The gain is pretty compressed. It's one of the key ways in which a TS type pedal is so different from a Klon style one. With the gain very low and the master very high, much less compression. Cheers!
Fantastic looking pedal. This is what the Source Audio Pro Distortion pedal could have been, if it had been midi compatible (IMO). Absolutely love the thick gain sound. Very reminiscent of the Thorpy fx Gunshott.
Congratulations on another fantastic demo! You guys are the greatest! Because Dan has made no secret of his great love for Analogman's King of Tone, I have a question for him. If you could only have one overdrive pedal on your board and had to choose between the King of Tone and Elektron's Analog Drive, which would you choose and why? In other words, would this new pedal from Elektron have been on your desert island pedal board if it had been available at the time? Why or why not?
One thing that is hard to gauge is exactly how loud it is in the room. Every once in a while, I'll hear some voice bleed through on an amp mic (usually Dan shouting yeah! while Mick is playing) and from that it seems that your room volume is very loud.
+billphillipstube It's quite loud. Remember that the dynamic mics are very close to the amps, and the room mic is about seven feet away - that's what's picking up Dan's voice. We fade the vocal mic up and down when we talk - that would be totally overloaded by the amps. If you watch our bedroom and home tones video where we kept the volume to around 80dB measured at the board... for most videos we're touching anything between 90 and 105 ish. Quite loud, loud enough for some gigs, but not really loud,
Nice 2017, 2nd Episode. Like the Expression pedal option on the new pedal. Everytime the TS and Lovepedal sounded great and yes the Elektron sounds close to the others. Please do another Plexi Episode,(maybe the higher gain Plexi pedals) include that Lovepedal Purple Plexi and others. That Tele and LP they deserve an Episode for themselves. Dan which Pickups are on that Gibby? Any help on pickup´s height and TOne Knob settings are welcome.
Form factor alone puts this in a different category than the Riverside, for your average hobbyist the Elektron is enormous. I'll be going with the Riverside, but the Elektron is a great sounding pedal. Whatever ones preference we can all be happy that 2017 will be an exciting year of releases for stomp boxes.
Benjamin Shaw Glad to hear you are enjoying the Elektron, do you find its size to be an issue on your board or just using it in practice? I received my Riverside last night and while I haven't put it through all its paces, I'm really enjoying it.
I remember having the same conversation about digital cameras a decade ago... "oh pics look bad, it is nothing like 35mm" .... now digicams are the norm.... I will keep my tube amp (just like I keep my Nikon FM2) but these will become the norm...
+JAFO-PTY Interesting juxtaposition. Mick here. I was in magazines (and photography) all the way through the film to digital transition. And my wife has been involved with commercial and editorial photography for most of her career. It wasn't quality that killed film, it was price, practicality and turnaround time. There was a massive commercial imperative to stop using film. A lot of top snappers will still tell you that film still has something special, but of course it's ridiculous to use it these days. I think unless the analogue process becomes unfeasible in terms of cost (for example digital pedals of the future might be 69p each and on nano-chips so require no physical entity) they will endure. Everyone though tube amps would disappear but they're as popular now as they ever were. It'll be interesting to live through it all happening! Thanks for watching.
Very informative video as always! It's the comparisons that keep bringing me back to you guys. Seeing a pedal in action against others in the same family and how it's being used. Context, context, context. How does that mini TS stack after the Tumnus?
+Joel Brennan It's great Joel. In fact the TS Mini is good after pretty much anything if you want a middy solo boost. Can be quite a lot of mid in conjunction with the Tumnus, and because the Tumnus is a good Boost in its own right, it's worth trying the TS before as well. Cheers!
That Pedal Show thanks that is my favorable guitar theme. put stripes on it and i am sold. that is why i had a nik huber dolphin in krautster appeal built for me. british racing green plus 3 golden stripes. in fact it is the guitar that john konesky played on rock am ring with tenacious d. that is it. and no it is not his signature model :)
chase bliss audio announced an overdrive thats looks great! isnt that just typical do a video about digitally controlled overdrives then what looks like a culmination of the best bits of both strymon and elktron comes out
Great show guys! Please make an episode with Steve Vai and his new pedalboard. He uses Gigrig G2 too, and so many cool pedals. Eventide H9's, Ibanez TS mini, Wampler Tumnus, dB+, Keeley compressor pro and Monterey, etc. :)
I do think this pedal opens up interesting possibilities. What about using using digital multi effects like the boss me-50 but an all analogue equivalent? Would fly off the shelves
+Ollie Stacks loads of great octave fuzzes out there, I really want to try the new 'Believe' from Lovepedal, but this is a highlight for me in the AnalogDrive
Hello guys, great show as usual. Keep it up! I want to give an idea to you. I've been playing guitar for 9-10 years and during that time I realized that in addition to guitars, amps, and effects are used, a guitar pick can provide a considerable impact on the tone. Can you explain it in a short video? Thank you :)
GREAT (as always...)!! My wish for 2017? Every four weeks or so a show with these two great guys and a bass player: yep, a 'That pedal Bass Show' is what this world needs (big time). The Anderton's smurfs bass show is not for all of us, just for beginners or those in need of a laugh. There is just so much to talk about (seriously) when it comes to effects and bass guitar. The shows about overdrive/ distortion/ fuzz for bass just might get you through the first two years... Kind regards!! @
+Admar Hermans Okay Admar, we're going to give this some thought. We need to find a good bass player who doesn't have 200 gigs every month.... they're rare beasts!
Does Dans last line hold true? If you don’t have a TS/Klon/plexus distortion/fuzz, would this pedal being amazing? I am looking for all those but if these do an amazing job of those pedals, then I will check it out!
Dan, are those the stock pickups in your Tele? I really love the way it sounds. And pardon me if there's already a video on it. You could point me to that video instead :) Another great video guys!
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Every time I watch one of these videos, the sheer power of that red Telecaster amazes me. That thing is a beast. Great show, guys, and some thundering tones from that Analog Drive pedal.
I enjoy how they look lovingly into each others eyes when they are playing guitar.
+MrDudestein Not as much as we do.
Great show as usual! Thanks guys. I can't wait for the attenuators comparison episode! Also I would love to see an episode about Microphone positioning on guitar amps and Open Back and Closed Back cabs and also in general the room acoustics.
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This will help many I'm sure. Microphones positioning can be a very subjective topic but there are some rules based on the type of microphones and speakers being used and because your shows have some of the best sounds, it can shed the needed lights for many people out there who are not sure how to do it properly. Thanks again!
I second that and perhaps a 1x12 vs 2x12 comparison would be a good idea aswell
This pedal and an Eventide H9 Max would be an awesome combo
I have this combi now and it is awesom.
My compact pedal board:
Polytune mini, AMT SS11 B preamp, Elektron analog drive, H9 Max, TC Hall of fame reverb, EHX Magnum 44 poweramp.
Boss ES 5 pedal switcher. Only the analog drive is in the looper though. The midi on de Boss ES is the most important function i use to control the Elektron and the H9.
Plethora X5. MIDI interconnect and my iPad equals instant song dial up.
Funny enough, I've consistently bought less pedals since watching TPS. I'm actually selling most of mine and going down to only 4 or 5 pedals. I guess it has a lot to do with asking better questions.
Great episode guys! This pedal seems like a perfect fit for dudes running the Strymon Stryfecta rig (Mobius, Timeline, Bigsky) that want to get a lot out of only a few boxes. Paired with a G2, there isn't a whole lot you couldn't do with a rig like that...
Jake Stewart Music 3 strymons, this guy and a boost and you'd be hard pressed to find some ground you can't cover for sure.
+Jake Stewart Music that's awesome Jake, you can bet my mind was running overtime playing with this thing, incredible tones, and sooooo great with G2 :)
Definitely a rig to rule the world with.
Yeah guys, my rig is largely based off of stuff you feature on the show, too. Xotic wah. Cali 76 Compact, Chicago Iron Octavian Plus, King of Tone, and ARDX20. 4/5 have been regular appearances on the show. That board into a Carr Rambler (lush verb and trem in there) and happy days. Next up is a proper tape delay, a re-housed Hammond vibrato in a box, and a Vibratone to complete the rig.
3 Source Audios (Gemini, Nemesis, Vertigo), a comp, regular Fuzz and/or Big Muff (split the difference and get a RAT or Vick V-2), a Treble Booster and my beloved Line6 M5, MIDI loop switcher - done.
Probably want to keep one legit analog delay (Nemesis isn't so hot n the analog delay algorithms) and one favourite OD on there as well (Selah Scarlett Love would be a good one as it's a 3-in-1) and - done.
It's when Dan said "I'm guessing one of the boys has been playing this guitar" strums guitar (drop D ensues).
So as luke warm as I felt about the Riverside, I getting MAJOR GAS for this.
This feels like everything the Riverside promised to be and a ton more. And the fact that you can preset a load of different gain structures and trigger the changes through midi... amazing.
And it sounds just amazing... I don't think there was a bad sound in the box. Would have been interesting to hear it through a Marshall-Style amp, but wow!!!
Now I've got to work out what I can sell to get this on my board...
+neuk01642 yep, gave myself gas with this one ;)
I'm a clean boost + fuzz pedal guy myself but this Elektron gizmo is damned impressive. The mid-sweep "wah" all by itself sounds very cool.
You guys should really, REALLY start opening pedals up !!!
Also, I've been wanting to suggest this.I recently got into diy pedal making, and I've stepped into a whole now dimension!!!!!(and money sinkhole).The community is HUGE btw.So, maybe a cool topic for a show would be DIY pedals, mods, and yes the "gray" area of clones :P I understand its a sensitive subject, but after messing with it for a few months I'd advise ANY guitar player to start diy'ing.I now understand a lot more of the stuff you guys chat about (low hfe germanium Q1,silicon Q2 fuzz face, I'd think you were talking Klingon if i heard that a few months ago :D)
+Webgkil Thanks for the suggestion. It's a massive, deep subject. It's not something that interests me particularly (Mick here) as I get precious little time to play as it is. Spending time building (and thinking about building and talking about building) would eat into that too much. Making videos for RUclips has nearly killed it entirely already! ;0) Dan may have more interest in that world. Thanks for watching!
That Pedal Show how about regularly inviting someone to talk about this stuff? An English builder (magnetic effects? Rothwell?) for instance.
I know someone who would love to talk to you on the show, have to be via Skype though...
If you mean DIY pedal building, there's enough online about it already - we couldn't add anything to the immensely detailed info already out there.
If you mean clones and all that, it's really simple for us. There are artisans and there are corporations and sometimes the two are the same thing. After that it's just down to how creative you are, how letigious you are and how deep your pockets are. We all care about it in different ways. Dan and I tend to like things built by credible humans who are dedicated to their craft. They tend to be expensive as a result! But all the moral arguments - totally pointless as we all have different morals. Cheers!
If you mean Brian, it'd be great to talk to him about anything and everything. In fact we should start a series of interviews with key people... Cheers Jason - see you in sunny Anaheim!
Yep. The Elektron is what the Riverside should be. I still can't put my finger on what but there's "something missing" when the Riverside kicks in. We're talking the difference between hair and fur but its there. Then again, just that little tube screamer on it's own would be enough to keep you entertained for hours. Great show as always. Cheers guys.
hard to tell on a youtube video but that riverside just sounds cold to me. Elektron all the way! WAY warmer.
Another great video guys. Honestly, even just the playing is good on it's own. With the added bonus of the funny bits and all the info, That Pedal Show is without doubt my favourite RUclips channel. I appreciate the hard work you guys put in and how long it takes, but I still find myself wishing for more than one full episode and one comparison video a week! It's always awesome when Friday rolls around and we get another TPS installment.
+BravoColl ah, cheers B, thanks for watching :)
That intro is the clear example of how playing music can turn a rather mature - full on grown ups into children. Great demo!
really not sure if most followers of this show understand just how talented these two are in matching tones. Way more than just knob twisters....very versatile guitar players too but the ability to tweak these things and get very different pedals to sound so similar is amazing.
Amelia Greer You're right, they've got some pretty sharp ears these two.
That's a damn great pedal. I would like to see the same package without presets, in a smaller box, just to have all that sounds.
Digital control of analog paths is the new frontier.
Fred Garvin almost true..but check TCE nova drive for instance which is a pedal 5 yrs old or so..?
I own the nova drive, the problem with it is the midi program change: slow as a snail.
Nova Drive was i think the first... still very viable on the used market
new in guitars, it has been done in synths for 30 years.
But it's not very good, slow program changes. I
Just picked up one of these bad boys for 99 bucks on Sweetwater!
Real Heel Ryan I did too! And I was thinking on getting one used in reverb. 😅 lucky us!
Me three!
Add me to the list, got the last one at Sweetwater!
@@hermano.8118 I'd love to hear what you guys think. My initially messing around is yielding good results. The presets need some tweaking but the drives themselves are impressive.
They’re still on Zzounds and AMS for $99!
I LOVE this show and this pedal. I bought after watching this video and I could not be happier. It is a dream overdrive.
You guys are killing it with this show and you're damn good players. Cheers!
For anyone who uses a Boss ES8/ES5 , or any other loopswitcher that doesnt have pre or post gain per loop, this pedal is a Godsend. (GigRig 2 excluded! :-) Fantastic to be able to adjust each O/D patch's levels from within the pedal and recall them with midi pc and all in 1 loop! Freeing up all the other loops for any other pedal madness you desire!
That harmonic fuzz is just so creamy and smooth in mick's hands at 10:30 I love it
SMT (surface mount technology) for guitar pedals is getting really impressive now.
I used to turn my nose to any pedal that didn't use full size components because I like to modify them myself, and also thought SMT components couldn't bring the tonez like bigger caps and resistors. But things are changing!
Big birthday next month. I reckon that's my present sorted :)
Such an enjoyable show - thanks chaps and keep them coming.
Sweetwater just sold their remaining stock of these at $99!!!! I had no choice but to grab one and I’m SOOOO glad I did. What a phenomenal pedal!!!
That is insane. I can’t get my head around that people didn’t understand this pedal. I don’t understand that they didn’t understand. Mick here.
Christopher Anderson , i also did grab one at 89 Euro's from Thomann. What a bargain!!
Such a great device! Also the midi function is a great feature.
Together with my AMT preamp and the Eventide H9 i can get almost any sound!
That Pedal Show , best buy ever! 89 Euro's at from Thomann. Covers everything i need! I even managed to get it almost sound the same as the Van Weelden Royal Overdrive, wich was my main overdrive pedal; sold this one now.
Another excellent episode. Thanks. That Elektron goes for $359US. As you say, not crazy expensive given the ground it covers. Really appreciate that you guys apply different guitars during the video. Even when you don't specifically comment on it, I still learn so much about how different guitars and pickups work with each pedal.
+Steve Comeau cheers Steve, thanks for watching ;)
That Pedal Show Can you store the presets in banks so you can have different banks for different songs at a gig, or do you need to scroll from 1-100?
If I have to Take just 3 Pedals to a gig - ( Elektron Analog Drive, Boss DD-500 & Strymon Mobius ) = all bases covered. This is a lifesaver ( not to mention ) the Flexibility in a Recording environment. I may grab one? ( not easily impressed ). . . Really Impressed. Great job with showcasing the versatility.
They are on a massive sale on Sweetwater right now!
@@CoreyZ232 Thanks brother - Appreciate the heads-up.
@@michael_caz_nyc No problem, I just picked one up myself since I have their Digitakt and was completely impressed with it. Thought I'd check it out and hope I didn't waste my money and, lo and behold, one of the very few Pedal Shows I've missed. Pleasantly surprised!
Just want to say love the show, keep up the good work! Today where more and more music sales are online, "that pedal show" and other similar videos are just great for those of us that want to shop from our computer screen! Thanks again!
+Brian Joyce Thanks Brian! We're glad to helping in part. Thanks for watching!
Did you already do a video on your guys gigging pedalboards? Like your own rig rundown?
It's a weird one about the Riverside. On a lot of the RUclips videos it can sound a bit fizzy (not here though), and in real life it sounds awesome. I've got one and it kicked off a Earthquaker Palisades of my board. Wonder if it's best just going into a totally clean amp? I'd agree though, they're totally prepping for a 'big box' version.
Sunset at well. In real life it's phenomenal. RUclips, just "meh". Good "meh" - but "meh" all the same.
I think the MIDI control sells it for me. Using a controller and being able to dial in different over drives for different songs would be fantastic.
7:40 - John Mayer riffs?! Someone's been practicing! :D Love it!
+Zac F Ah, he's my guilty not-so secret I'm afraid. I was totally obsessed with him for a while there. Still love his music. :0)
For most of this video I was thinking this is fun, but this is a product I would never buy. But for the price, to have every flavor of overdrive I'd want, it really isn't a bad deal at all. It appears to be $359 in the U.S. That's the cost of what- three good priced pedals, two higher end boutiquish pedals? The ability to stack them into each other would seal the deal, but even without, so you have one clean boost in front of all of them. No big deal. Fun video, as always.
Woah all of a sudden strymon is no longer synonymous with the best thing there is. Thanks boys and happy New Year
Source Audio Dirt Pedals are awesome. And came before the Riverside.
Thank you. It sounded great! Especially liked the parametric EQ! Throughout the video, I kept wondering if the various pedals/presets would be stack-able. Then Dan mentioned it doesn't have that capability. IMO... That would be something cool to see in a v.2ifyou will. I love mixing, matching and tweaking with stacked pedals! Really love your videos. Thanks for making Friday mornings great!
+Judd Alexander cheers Judd, yep, but tbh, this and a couple of boosters... not much it won't do. You're right, stacking is key to some truly spectacular tones
Oh yes! Friday, a cold beer, new TPS video and I also received my TPS t-shirt in the mail today. Happy days 😊
+Jarno Laakso yes!! ;)
Whoa, Dan going all thrash-metal at 19:05. That's the mark of a good pedal alright.
Yeah that was a good review. The way you guys can dial in the nearest tone match between two pedals is seriously helpful.
when you pause the video at the exact right time
Eko Transit Mick should make that his YT avatar. ;)
I think an episode on pitch shifters would be interesting and helpful. There are some great new pedals like the Sub N' Up, Digi Tech Ricochet, and Electro-Harmonix Pitch Fork. Discussing how pitch shifters differ from Octave pedals and outlining concepts about latency and polyphonic might make a good show. Keep up the good work guys!
+Chad Garmany Hi Chad, we did an episode on octave pedals a few months back which included a bit on the SubNUp. But yes, it's a topic into which we could dive deeper. Dan's definitely in charge for that one - not my thing at all. Thanks for watching!
The Riverside is the first overdrive pedal with a "credible digital element to it"? I would suggest that Source Audio LA Lady is highly credible. maybe worth having a look at if you're going to expand on programable / presets overdrives.
We will indeed. Knew that comment would contentious!
That Elektron sounds amazing. If you do the LA Lady please include the fact that it will stack two different overdrives or split them in stereo and that it will also do all the Kingmaker Fuzz algorithms when you use the app
I second all this. Source Audio has had digital skin in this game for previous to Elektron and Strymon (bless their hearts) going back to the Soundblox Classic Distortion & Soundblox 2 OFD. Let's not forget the game changing Multiwave Distortion. The One Series pedals are the next gen of these brave endeavors.
Hey guys, I find TPS a great show to watch on youtube but for some reason I can't seem to find a video on your channel on building a board, right now I got my pedals standing on the ground and if I'd go rehearse I have to chuck them all in a bag, so time to build a board. I think you would be the best channel for a good explaining on pro's and cons, power supplies, multiple levels, homebuild vs. prebuild etc.. Could you perhaps help out? Keep up the awesome vids!
Can it do these OD tones?
Boss BD-2
Bluesbreaker (eg POT, Snouse Black Box, Tapestry Fab Suisse)
Dumble-ish (eg Jetter gear pedals, too many to name that are D-style)
If so, I'm in.
It has an eq plus existing circuits, so most likely you can get crazy close. Unless it is a super unique sound.
The boys are back in town! Happy 2017 guys. T-Shirt size stable, humidity bonkers. Glad these pedals are ruinously expensive here as I'd be tempted otherwise, that sounds really versatile.
Dan - completely agree that as it's programmable which can be recalled by midi it is amazing. BUT for the many of us that have already bought our boutique pedals already, I don't think we could bare to part with them 😳 Wish that pedal was around a few months back, it would have saved me so much trouble !!! Great video again - thanks. Fuzz T ordered ✌🏻
+Ed Parker yeah, for me as for many I already have all those sounds multiple times over, and they're my sounds of you know what I mean, BUT this is very powerful specially with that eq section, amazing stuff
That Pedal Show Yes, going to have to try one out as it is a fantastic idea. Cheers 🍻
Biggest drawback for gigging is the power requirement - 1000mA @ 12VDC, although it comes with a power supply. Just not so convenient if you want to use your pedalboard power supply.
awesome vid it would be nice to see the amp setting too!!
Wow, the Analog Drive is very impressive! I checked out Elektron's site and found the Analog Heat which is VERY tempting for my home studio. Another great video, guys. Cheers!
I LOVE the knobs on that strat
I've tinkered with the Riverside at length as well as watching demos. I don't love it. The Elektron Analog Drive on the other hand is lovely. That being said, the Tumnus is my favorite pedal on that board.
Station 2Station I would agree that the Tumnus has a tonal edge on the Elektron but having owned the Elektron since Christmas and having a Tumnus too I can honestly say that the difference is very small
have you tried the brown modded analogman TS808? my personal favorite "mid drive" pedal. a match made in heaven with a zendrive
Guys you have to try the hot tubes by ehx. I bought one yesterday and it instantly gave me the sound i always wanted. With the overdrive at about half, tone off and the guitar rolled back to around 7,5, that pedal jsut blew my mind.
+vojtasTS29 will do ;)
fantastic matching of tones to the other pedals. I started to feel a bit of ear fatigue with the higher gain tones but they would sound great in a mix. Have you guys ever thought of having a backing track element to your videos? I know it would be an extra effort and expense, but I often find guitar tones on their own to be a bit ugly (unless drenched in ambient effects) and dont demonstrate the tones in the context that most people will hear them. Really enjoy the show every week and the A/B comparison vids are a nice little bonus!
+Alex Lewis Hey Alex, this is a really nice idea. We need to work out a way of doing it. Shouldn't be beyond our collective abilities!
Great video as always guys! Hope to bump into you two at NAMM!
Cheers!
Great chords Dan! around 3:30
+Matt Sipe cheers Matt :)
Great episode as always! I'd love to see an episode on binson echorec type tones in the future ;)
really liking the playing from both of you this episode!
+Claire A ah, cheers Claire :)
Happy New Year Guys! Have you considered doing a 'behind the scenes' episode? It would be a great help to get an idea of your setup and prep. Keep up the awesome work! JT :)
We've started filming it. Turns out it's 10 times more work than the episode itself! It is happening though. Thanks for watching!
Great, and yeah I can totally imagine! I am really looking forward to it and thank you so much in advance! :)
Love you guys! Thanks for all the help in understanding this stuff.
+Stephen Whitehead our pleasure Stephen ;)
just about to pull the trigger on the riverside then you demo this Arrgh!! which one
ray dowley Analog Drive all day, I work in a shop that sells Strymon and unfortunately I found that as good as the Riverside sounds it just doesn't quite feel right, and the other downside is it tends not to stack well with regular analog pedals.
Hi benjamin thanks for the input. but maybe i should step back a little,I'am only a bedroom player do I really need 8 peds plus. my big fear is I find the ped setting I like. then have all the rest sitting there,and me feeling gulity at not using them. or sit there best part of the nght twiddling knobs and not playing as much as I should. by the way my sound is bloos rock. cheers ray
Still undecided about this one, for the price you could bag 2/3 beautiful little gain boxes (seriously the amount you guys go through im never sure which way to go, so many, im only really after a light/mid breakup/ overdrive and a muff). This'll should be the be all and end all of all overdrive flavours, but Im not sure if the fuzz circuit could compare with a dedicated muff? And that form factor and funny power supply requirements bugg me...
Anyway loving the show as always guys, keep coming back here as you two do IMO the best job of balancing the technical knowhow/great tones/likeable personalities and attitude into little weekly doses of guitar goodness!
That thing sounds AMAZING! Love the John Mayer strat too!!
Great video Mick and Dan, seems Elektron have nailed it with this pedal. Hope you have a great time at NAMM you lucky buggers..
+SoundsandImages Cheers S, yep, gonna be fun! :)
I m looking forward to your reports, just wish I was there too, all those shiny new instruments and gear..... *Rubs thighs with excitement*!
So happy you reviewed this one..i was hoping you would after watching chprs&cptn vid..i think this is what strymon should have done...Thanx!
Another excellent demo. Curious to see if Strymon steps up. Dan's riff at 24:46 - 25:03 was awesome. Mick's Hendrix Octavia riff was awesome. Looking forward to more on attenuators (make my wife happier, please!). Perhaps a word or two about power scaling? (Mick seemed to like the Morgan MVP on Paradiso demo.)
+Bruce Elliott We'll get into this on the next round of the Bedroom Tones video. Variable voltage (inside the amp) and external resistive attenuation are worth comparing. Cheers for now and thanks for watching!
Very nice!! Hope to meet you guys at NAMM if you make it!
Watched this twice. I think I need one.... ps happy new year back at you. Great channel.
When using the SA expression pedal, would you be able to run into both inputs and boost the kids as you raise the gain?
Love how simple it is to choose what you want the expression pedal to change. None of that asinine "hold this thing down and rotate the knob and blah blah" business I'm so bad at.
Great video as always. I'd be really interested to hear a comparison of the Elektron, Riverside and the Earthquaker Devices Palisades in terms of getting a tweaked Tubescreamer sound.
VERY INTERESTING!
thanks for doing a good comparison of sounds from this multi pedal.
I'm surprised you guys haven't got hold of the Keeley tone workstation and the other variables he has made as I know you like the Keeley mods. Also to match up with the John Mayer strat it would be great to to compare with the individual pedals.
Enjoy your time at NAMM and I'm sure you will find something INTERESTING there to show us.
PS: Happy new year to you both!
+Doc Tiberius cheers Doc, yes, some Workstation content on the way. Mick and I are both massive Robert Keeley fans
That Pedal Show Wow great Dan thanks for the quick response. I'm so excited now that you're going to do that because it will be a big help for me as I'm thinking of getting one. Cheers!
+Doc Tiberius Mick here - just get one. I was blown away. Cheers!
Cheers Mick! It's definitely first my pedal list to go with one of my small single channel amps.
I plan to have another day out at Andertons very soon.
Also the LunaStone Three Stage Rocket is comparable with the Elektron Analog Drive
The Source Audio guitar OFD pedal is very similar to this unit, except all digital as I understand it. It would be great for one of your A/B videos!
great tones from that oversized pedal. Thanks for the demo.
Everyone talks about the mid-hump push of tube screamers, but when you put on that mini version, it occurred to me that it's also acting kind of like a compression pedal - is that my imagination?
+VoxPathfinder15R Yeah definitely. The gain is pretty compressed. It's one of the key ways in which a TS type pedal is so different from a Klon style one. With the gain very low and the master very high, much less compression. Cheers!
Mick your playing is sounding really good these days
+Chip Billingsley Thanks Chip, very kind of you to say!
The electron slays the riverside.
sgb200 without a doubt bro
Fantastic looking pedal. This is what the Source Audio Pro Distortion pedal could have been, if it had been midi compatible (IMO). Absolutely love the thick gain sound. Very reminiscent of the Thorpy fx Gunshott.
Congratulations on another fantastic demo! You guys are the greatest!
Because Dan has made no secret of his great love for Analogman's King of Tone, I have a question for him. If you could only have one overdrive pedal on your board and had to choose between the King of Tone and Elektron's Analog Drive, which would you choose and why? In other words, would this new pedal from Elektron have been on your desert island pedal board if it had been available at the time? Why or why not?
Heard some great riffs in there, great damn video guys!
Cool contraption but the very top end seems to be missing?
I agree. Noticed that too.
One thing that is hard to gauge is exactly how loud it is in the room. Every once in a while, I'll hear some voice bleed through on an amp mic (usually Dan shouting yeah! while Mick is playing) and from that it seems that your room volume is very loud.
+billphillipstube It's quite loud. Remember that the dynamic mics are very close to the amps, and the room mic is about seven feet away - that's what's picking up Dan's voice. We fade the vocal mic up and down when we talk - that would be totally overloaded by the amps.
If you watch our bedroom and home tones video where we kept the volume to around 80dB measured at the board... for most videos we're touching anything between 90 and 105 ish. Quite loud, loud enough for some gigs, but not really loud,
Nice 2017, 2nd Episode. Like the Expression pedal option on the new pedal. Everytime the TS and Lovepedal sounded great and yes the Elektron sounds close to the others. Please do another Plexi Episode,(maybe the higher gain Plexi pedals) include that Lovepedal Purple Plexi and others.
That Tele and LP they deserve an Episode for themselves.
Dan which Pickups are on that Gibby? Any help on pickup´s height and TOne Knob settings are welcome.
Form factor alone puts this in a different category than the Riverside, for your average hobbyist the Elektron is enormous. I'll be going with the Riverside, but the Elektron is a great sounding pedal. Whatever ones preference we can all be happy that 2017 will be an exciting year of releases for stomp boxes.
Simon Keast deciding factor for me was that the Riverside doesn't stack well, I've had the Analog Drive for a month now and I'm thoroughly happy.
Benjamin Shaw Glad to hear you are enjoying the Elektron, do you find its size to be an issue on your board or just using it in practice? I received my Riverside last night and while I haven't put it through all its paces, I'm really enjoying it.
Simon Keast I think this vid makes it look bigger than it is but it is quite large, I had to kick my expression pedal off to get it on.
This sounds fantastic. Where do I find that pedal show merchandise. I want to support my favorite RUclips channel. I love all of the videos.
+James Coleman ah, thanks James, it's at thatpedalshowstore.com :)
Great review!
I remember having the same conversation about digital cameras a decade ago... "oh pics look bad, it is nothing like 35mm" .... now digicams are the norm.... I will keep my tube amp (just like I keep my Nikon FM2) but these will become the norm...
+JAFO-PTY Interesting juxtaposition. Mick here. I was in magazines (and photography) all the way through the film to digital transition. And my wife has been involved with commercial and editorial photography for most of her career. It wasn't quality that killed film, it was price, practicality and turnaround time. There was a massive commercial imperative to stop using film. A lot of top snappers will still tell you that film still has something special, but of course it's ridiculous to use it these days.
I think unless the analogue process becomes unfeasible in terms of cost (for example digital pedals of the future might be 69p each and on nano-chips so require no physical entity) they will endure. Everyone though tube amps would disappear but they're as popular now as they ever were. It'll be interesting to live through it all happening! Thanks for watching.
Would love to know your thoughts on Seymour Duncan's Palladium gain stage. I think its at least the equal to the Strymon Riverside
Very informative video as always! It's the comparisons that keep bringing me back to you guys. Seeing a pedal in action against others in the same family and how it's being used. Context, context, context. How does that mini TS stack after the Tumnus?
+Joel Brennan It's great Joel. In fact the TS Mini is good after pretty much anything if you want a middy solo boost. Can be quite a lot of mid in conjunction with the Tumnus, and because the Tumnus is a good Boost in its own right, it's worth trying the TS before as well. Cheers!
What was the treble booster on this video? It sounded amazing!
+Alex Johnston it's my old Plosive May Booster, it's my fav
nice vid again. i love my jm strat as well. have the golden one with the red racing stripes
+K Roadster Nice! Love the racing stripes.
That Pedal Show thanks that is my favorable guitar theme. put stripes on it and i am sold. that is why i had a nik huber dolphin in krautster appeal built for me. british racing green plus 3 golden stripes. in fact it is the guitar that john konesky played on rock am ring with tenacious d. that is it. and no it is not his signature model :)
loved your segment on your guitars and gear. should do the mayer strat and amps.
+Jesse Hicks Cheers Jesse. Dan and I were discussing that just yesterday. We have a few more guitars to do, and of course all those amps!
YESS! Thanks!
chase bliss audio announced an overdrive thats looks great! isnt that just typical do a video about digitally controlled overdrives then what looks like a culmination of the best bits of both strymon and elktron comes out
Great show guys! Please make an episode with Steve Vai and his new pedalboard. He uses Gigrig G2 too, and so many cool pedals. Eventide H9's, Ibanez TS mini, Wampler Tumnus, dB+, Keeley compressor pro and Monterey, etc. :)
The Source Audio range of digital drives is supposed to be pretty good as well.
+d3b5s3r Yep, a few people are telling us this. We'll acquire one - sounds cool!
+d3b5s3r Yep, a few people are telling us this. We'll acquire one - sounds cool!
d3b5s3r For sure. The Source Audio stuff is stupefying. I'd love to find out wether you think the LA Lady is mega.
I do think this pedal opens up interesting possibilities. What about using using digital multi effects like the boss me-50 but an all analogue equivalent? Would fly off the shelves
That harmonic fuzz is huge! Is there anything else out there that does that kind of thing? Reminds me of when you guys had the Quint out
+Ollie Stacks loads of great octave fuzzes out there, I really want to try the new 'Believe' from Lovepedal, but this is a highlight for me in the AnalogDrive
Hello guys, great show as usual. Keep it up!
I want to give an idea to you. I've been playing guitar for 9-10 years and during that time I realized that in addition to guitars, amps, and effects are used, a guitar pick can provide a considerable impact on the tone. Can you explain it in a short video? Thank you :)
+Febrianda Rifqi Pratama We certainly could. Dan and I talk for ages about plectra. True story.
GREAT (as always...)!!
My wish for 2017?
Every four weeks or so a show with these two great guys and a bass player: yep, a 'That pedal Bass Show' is what this world needs (big time).
The Anderton's smurfs bass show is not for all of us, just for beginners or those in need of a laugh.
There is just so much to talk about (seriously) when it comes to effects and bass guitar. The shows about overdrive/ distortion/ fuzz for bass just might get you through the first two years...
Kind regards!!
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+Admar Hermans Okay Admar, we're going to give this some thought. We need to find a good bass player who doesn't have 200 gigs every month.... they're rare beasts!
Does Dans last line hold true? If you don’t have a TS/Klon/plexus distortion/fuzz, would this pedal being amazing? I am looking for all those but if these do an amazing job of those pedals, then I will check it out!
Dan, are those the stock pickups in your Tele? I really love the way it sounds. And pardon me if there's already a video on it. You could point me to that video instead :) Another great video guys!
+thedriftersmusic Thank you! Check out the Our Guitars & Gear playlist off our RUclips homepage...
Dan is seriously rockin' out in this one... :o)
+Nick Fox I’ve been known to rock out on the odd occasion ;)