[GL][T-29] The History of Norfolk Southern's SD70ACU
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Norfolk Southern's SD70ACU locomotive began life as ex-Union Pacific SD90MACs in 2015.. See them in action before and after their transformation from yellow to black.. Plus ex-CIT, A&O and Indiana RR.
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Pretty cool video. Im glad I got videos of many SD90's before they were converted. I like them so much put them in a playlist
Cool.. I shot more than half of the 100 they bought so I'm content!!
Great documentary man! I miss those old cabs and their horns.
Thanks, Jon.. Yes, it's always fun to go back in time and see the way things used to be!!
One of your finest pieces of work. Excellent video AC.
Thanks, Han.. I've got about a dozen more like this one.. Hope that you'll enjoy those too.
fantastic, well produced video. this is currently my favorite rebuild going on. your video gave a great overview and examples. I have to watch again to catch all of it!
and for more stats this is a great source of info: www.nsdash9.com/rosters/7229.html
Thanks, Tim.. I'm glad you enjoyed.. And thanks for the link.. I'll definitely check that out.
Awesome video. I have always been a huge fan of EMDs especially SD70s and 80macs. Very informative and great insight for an avid NS fan like myself. Great job!
Thanks, Man.. I have a video on the 70s and 80s coming this year!
Awesome AC... that was a lot of research great work and your right NS does a great job with there Locomotives well done. ,👏🏽👏🏽
Thanks, man.. Your words are much appreciated..
Great Great and more great video this also being a historic compilation of an specific topic is also a real rail-periodism for me thanks to bring this excellent content of so many things about railroading.
No problem Alejandro.. Thanks for watching.
Wow! This is a FANTASTIC surprise!! Thanks AC!
Thanks, Man.. I'm glad you enjoyed it..
Lots of variety here. Great story on these locos, and a lot of great shots of these wonderful machines at work out there. Thank you for another unique story.
Thank you, Don.. I'm always happy to hear that you're happy with my work!!
Wow! There is a Penn Central gon at the 29:42 mark that wasnt repainted by Conrail or NS! Thats a great find in 2018! Cool.
Yes it is.. PC gons show up quite a bit on NS, especially in MOW service.. I've even seen some Erie-Lackawannas..
AC I love your videos they are awesome ! The sd70s-90s are my favorite Engines
Thank you for posting this. Although I am not a fan of intermodal nor auto trains, I do enjoy watching mixed freight, gondolas, flat cars, box cars, tank cars, pulpwood cars, and all forms of hoppers, cylindrical, covered and open. I appreciate the train you shot near the first of the video since I was able to count the cars the two SD-90's were pulling. Yes, I'm a car counter as I like to see how many cars a certain engine or consist can pull. Although I'm not very familiar with the modern diesel electrics I do like to see how most cars on freight trains are weathered. This gives me an idea how to weather my model railroad freight cars. Thanks for shooting the whole train of 125 cars. The only diesels I am familiar with are EMD GP-7's and 9's, most of the Alco RS series of engines and of course steam engines. I didn't know that Winchester Western had their own hoppers until I viewed this video. Also I'm not a fan of graffiti painted on the cars. I model a time period before graffiti became popular. What happened to the railroad police in the yards? The latest models of engines I run on my layout are EMD GP-38's with low hoods. My model railroad currently is limited up to the late 1950's. Thanks for a great HD video!
W Rusty Lane in eastern Tennessee (Witherington Place Railroad)
Thanks again for such a fine and descriptive comment.. I understand how you feel about much of modern railroading..
Not a fan of intermodal,or auto rack trains,either,..I like the mixed/manifest trains,and also the grain trains,though! I'm modeling 2011 to present on my 4x8 Ho scale model railroad,..although I do have older vintage buildings on my layout along with a modern grain elevator. I have an SD40-2 "Admiral Cab" locomotive ordered,along with a GE ES44AC. My other EMD locomotive is the NS "Erie Heritage" unit. Most of my trains on my layout will be grain trains since I am modeling the grain industry.
I don't see that stuff, I only see manifest trains because it's a Shortline Railroad. The Railroad name is St Lawrence and Atlantic Railroad, for short is SLR, good Shortline Railroad and I don't see derailment, only 2 derailment from around 1990's and one in 2009 in Maine. SLR is part of the Genesee Wyoming family.
I saw NS 7337 yesterday leading a 48A w/ Two BNSF C4's Trailing At Macungie PA.
It had the Black Horse head Scheme as well.
A railfan at heart forever, but never had the information such as you’ve offered here. And That was a lot of information!! I really enjoyed all of it, & am trying to learn as much as I can. Beautiful NS engines!! The Reading & Northern, which I’d not heard of, was a joy to see.🙂 Looking forward to more of your Trains.
Thanks Gara.. Stay tuned!! There's a lot more to come.
I was just digging up some 2012 train photos on my Mac and I came across a “strange” (to me & my area) red & black engine, a CN no.8825. I had to google to ID “CN”. Since we are a BNSF town, I was quite excited to find the photo & learn about the engine. 😊
Had to watch your vid again... love all of the engines, but especially that bright blue one!!
What an incredible informative video. Ironically, You answered my questions regarding the SD90’s from a post earlier today; and I got to see some old freight B&M XP XM, some bathtub style gons labled Sullivan Scrap, x-Consol high side GT now in scrap service and what’ever scenic passenger cars at the end of the a train. Of course there was a wealth of info in this vid. And Oh...How about the snazzy Rebuilt RBMN GP30’s Into 2500 GP39RN’s Extra comments welcome. Easily AC on of your best!
Thanks Thomas, this video kicked off a new era of video production for me and judging by what you say, it still holds up strong to this day. Thanks for watching.
Thanks AC, Love the history and updates on the NS engines.
Thanks, Joe.. I'm glad that you enjoyed it..
that was a very informative video.. i have an X UP sd90/43 in N scale that was converted to a NS sd70ACU #7230.. thanks for the awesome video... vinny (AKA bnsf6951)
Thanks, Vinny.. I'm glad that you liked it.
Bravo....just magic with your filming
Thanks, Ken.. Glad to see that you're still hangin' around with us..
Thanks, very interesting. N&S seems to be on top of keeping/obtaining good locos for rebuilding & service. SD70s have the best sound.....
Yes, they do.. I love the sounds of the 70 series EMDs..
Thanks for posting, very informative. Reminds me of when I drove a Fairbanks -Morse FP24 from Jamaica to port Jefferson station on the LIRR. And at only 10 yrs. old.
Wow, what a memory!! I envy you.. And thanks for the kind words..
So I just rewatched this(again) and this has many things I just didn't see the last (at least) 2 times! Boston & Maine boxcars and those Sullivan Scrap Holyoke MA... How did I miss those?! This video is great from start to finish!
Thanks Bethany.. I've got the counterpart to this video (it's been on the editing board for over 1 year!) ready to go in the next week or two.. I thank you for showing this video so much love.. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I love Norfolk southern locomotives
Yeah, me too.. But then again, I like all locomotives!
Cool to see the old B&M Boxcars at the end.
Thanks, Dan.. Yes, I love seeing old fallen flags lingering around.
Very interesting stuff AC! I enjoyed every minute of it. Thank you! Cheers, Dan
Thanks, Dan.. I have about a dozen more like this to do so I hope that you'll enjoy those too.. No Nikki in them though :-( LOL
I caught a Union Pacific leading a Norfolk southern power move and a SD70ACU.
Nice!!
Crazy as it may seem the Low hood SD70 Is my all time favorite along with the SD40-2. The SD70ACE is my modern day favorite even though I don't see alot of them its manly that fugly ES44cw I see that every where
once apon a time there was a railway that went by the name of canadian pacific one day they walked straight into juanita locomotive shops and took all the sd70acu's the end
thats not what happend but since CP has alot of them thats what i think happend
its not all you smart alecs
I just watched this video for the 3rd time, i love it!
Thanks, Spacecalander.. I'm glad that you enjoyed it.. Hopefully for a 4th time!!
And in the middle of the night when u hear that horn and u hear that train engine in the afar mann scary stuff
That's not even scary.
@@ejdsndnj lol
Excellent video, very informative. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, Daniel.
So why did NS get so attached to the SD80/90's? Especially when UP couldn't wait to get rid of them. Is it something about the performance characteristics in the eastern mountains that just didn't apply out west? Possibly performance on the long flat stretches?
No one I know likes how the SD70's pull in the mountains. I've had a few and they don't pull very well and their dynamic brakes are too strong. Makes for a rough ride. They are loud too. No one wants to listen to all that noise for 12 hours. Makes it hard to hear the radio, too.
The SD80MAC's were all owned and only by Conrail,then Norfolk Southern had them on their roster after the merge.CSX got some of them as well but then gave them later on to Norfolk Southern for trades of SD40-2's they wanted.
The SD80MAC's were becoming expensive to maintain not just because of their 20-710 G3B EC's but also EMD is more costly than alot of GE rebuilds.Their age wasn't just the obvious factor.
Norfolk Southern sold their SD80MAC's to PRLX.Some of them were acquired by Canadian Pacific as parts donors for their SD9043MAC's and SD70ACU rebuilds.
The SD90MAC's,both H1 & H2,with Union Pacific were a problem to begin with.EMD was in such a rush because of competing with GE after the AC6000CW's were manufactured.The 265H prime motors had horrible reliability and were not designed very well.Keep in mind that the SD9043MAC'a were already around before the 265H officially was debuted.
The SD9043MAC's remained until tears in the frame happened but most of the 6,000 HP SD90MAC's were scrapped while some survived as rebuilt exports.
Alot of the SD9043MAC's that Union Pacific had in storage were purchased by Norfolk Southern for the SD70ACU rebuild program.Half of them soon after were sold to PRLX and some SD9043MAC's still remain in storage.CEFX still has tons of their SD9043MAC's that only see usage if on leases.Some of them were also purchased for SD70ACU rebuilds as well.
Nice bunch of old Boston and Maine cars too
Indeed.. That's the primary reason I showed the whole train.. There was too much good rolling stock to cut out!!
Excellent as usual video, so do all these NS rebuilds have the Two Stroke EMD 16-710's? And these old designs remain competitive on the rails today? If so, that's a story all by itself! From the EMD 567 to the 710's. 80 years of service..how many designs of any kind relative to transportation claim that.
That's right. The ACUs have an SD70MAC engine with some being beefed up to 4,500 hp and Tier 1 emission standards.
I am glad NS is keeping the old MACs running.
You, me and lot of others too!!
I like the fact you didn't mention the RBMN GP30 hiding in the other side of the yard.
and then you show them, I just realized that they are GP39RNs.
Yes
oh btw the SD90MAC engines are called 265H
SD70s look similar to SD44s just with a longer tail there cabs are very similar also I love seeing old cars like this southern car 20:34
I like the old SOU boxcars too.. They're a favorite of mine.
+Trains21 There are quite a few of those Southern boxcars (and gondolas) around that haven't been patched or repainted yet.
cool subject... hope you keep doing these power profiles
Thanks, Jim.. I have about a dozen or so more in production.. Look for one on or around Friday.
Hi AC, I’ll bet you have better records on their locomotive equipment than NS does? Informative video thank you for posting. As always look forward to seeing your videos.
Thank you Edward, I'm glad that you enjoyed it!
great video, learned alot thanks much.
Thanks, KD.. Glad you liked.
Very informative and awesome video!
Thanks, Harley
Great video!
Thanks!
And now NS is already selling 40 of these locomotives.
Now NS has recently sold 20 more of these units in favor of the EMDX SD70ACE T4 units which are former PRLX units.
@@aydinparker1620
Norfolk Southern never officially purchased any SD70AH-T4's.The orders were canceled at the last minute.NS,BNSF,& KCS had them on leases but never did any purchases,only UPRR and CSX actually did.Union Pacific is the only railroad with 100 of their SD70AH-T4's because CSX finally sold off the 10 units they owned back to PRLX.The SD70AH-T4's ironically were junk just like the SD90MAC's that they were soley based on.All of the PRLX SD70AH-T4's currently are being leased in Mexico to Ferromex.
Norfolk Southern actually sold 65 SD70ACU's to PRLX.Also,they are finally getting scrapped by PRLX.
There is only 45 of them still around on the roster and at that,27 of them are on 24/7 freight service.Being that all 110 units were Union Pacific SD9043MAC's,
most of them already have wear and tear in the frames and that's why they were sold dirt cheap in the first place.A few of these units also came from CEFX but those are now apart of the scrap fleet.
Are the ACUs still around on PRLX property or awaiting to be dismantled?@@Slim_Slid
@@aydinparker1620
Norfolk Southern still owns 45 of their SD70ACU's.Currently,the 65 SD70ACU's that PRLX owns are being sent elsewhere for scrapping.
In 2009-2012 I shot a lot of UP video on the Golden State Route in southwest Kansas. I liked catching the SD9043s because they were unusual. I knew the day would come when UP phased them out. UP must have kept them for nearly 20 years and I suspect the 710 engine was reliable. It's good to see that at least some of them will live on with new cabs. Great video.
Thanks, Man.. Yeah, NS bought 100 of them.
sad to see the 80MACs never made it to rebuild
they were planned but then sold 2 years later. and now, not a single SD80MAC exists anymore
Don't fret. It's rumored a couple SD80MACs are still around, somewbere in storage.
@@Amigafur well sorry to break it to you but that rumor is false. every SD80MAC PRLX had got scrapped and the last "intact" one that was on CP was fully gutted
Norfolk Southern never had plans to rebuild the SD80MAC's,that was a false rumour itself.They just wanted to retire them once they became old enough because of costs and stricter EPA regulations.
The SD80MAC's with the most hours and miles that were sold to PRLX were deemed as scrap value while the units that had lesser usage have been used as parts donors only.Canadian Pacific purchased six SD80MAC's as parts donors as well for thirty of their SD9043MAC's that have been rebuilt as SD70ACU's.On top of this,the SD70ACU's that Norfolk Southern sold to PRLX back then are finally getting scrapped.
It's really interesting that a lot of these old EMD products and some of the GE products are being rebuilt think that's fantastic instead of just throwing these locomotives away and put them in for scrap is cheaper to rebuild them
Indeed.
NS is just weird now
Great video. Very informative. Subscribed!
Thanks Man.
Good information but why chop off the top half of the trains
Thanks Michael for watching.
for EMD SD70ACU "Parts
EMD/Mitsubishi Inverter Cabinet
Don't forget that canadian pacific also had these units!
video two years old before CP rail grabbed them
Nice I really like that blue one
Yeah, me too.
Very informative. TMRCI
Thanks Eric
I love your videos
Thanks William.
I love trains they are very interesting
Yes they are
What will they rebuild the SD80MACs to?
Hudson Trains Hudson Trains SD80ACU's he said at the end.
Awesome video man.
I keep thinking that the SD70ACU locomotives remind me of the SD90MAC-H phase II
That's because they do.
Trains21 This is especially true for Canadian Pacific. They followed in the footsteps of NS and had 30 of their SD9043MACs’, of which most had been in storage for years, rebuilt into ACUs. The 9043MACs’ were numbered 9100-9160 respectively, and the 30 ACUs’ built are numbered 7000-7030. The irony behind it is that the rebuilt SD70ACU’s look identical to the 4 SD90MAC-HIIs’ that CP had purchased in the late 90s’ and were numbered 9300-9303 respectively. I call it ironic because the SD90MAC-HIIs’ were extremely unreliable, and spend more time in the shop than on the road. In fact, the original order was for 20, but CP cut it down to 4 after hearing about the issues Union Pacific was having with the phase IIs. They were put into service in 1999 and didn’t even last ten years. I believe all four were removed from CP’s roster by 2008. I’m not sure where they are now but I do know 9300 was cut up in 2015.
@@trainman5371 CP's ACUs look like they all have a new front third or so of the hood and new cabs, just like the NS units.
Former CF trailers!
Oh yeah.. A classic landmark!!
Awesome! Very informative:)
Thanks, Man.
4:45 I didn’t know this!
RIP SD9043MACs
Not really, they're technically not gone, just re-incarnated!!
Trains21 lol
Plus UP just brought their remaining ones out of storage
Rare
Very
An don't forget the SD60
Awesome video!
Thanks, GOAT
Was that a typo in the script when you said that Siemens electronics replaced Mitsubishi?
35:34 Reading & Northern GP30 train shaking
Yeah, Track 17 is very wobbly.
GP30s once upon a time...but now GP39RNs.
@@redbarnz what does the RN stand for
@@acts2211 nope just GP39E
@@unity3596 whats the difference between gp 39 RN and Gp 39 E?
You forgot that CP did the same thing to their SD90MAC engines!
This video was made 2 years ago, long before CP rebuilt their MACs.
the ex cit, irnd , and cefx where all at Juanita i just went a few days ago and the ex cefx already had the cab on
Cool.
Could you do a video explaining the meaning of the term "air line" e.g. Seaboard Air Line? I always have thought that the cars were air cushioned for fragile products.
I'd have to research it, not if the "Air Line" in their name has anything to do with their operating procedures.
Very informative
Excellent intell... SUBED !
Thanks, Man.. Much appreciated
The box car at 9:56 doesn't sound too good.
Something dragging maybe, or something other than the train.
I am gonna miss the SD80MAC as I used to see them on the Pennsgrove secondary and around Camden, NJ during the late 90's when they still looked good in their Conrail Quality paint scheme. But I really like how the SD70ACUs are turning out so I am cautiously optimistic. Hopefully the 80macs will get better looking cabs on them than the horrible looking SD70ace cabs.
Bad news for you.. They're getting SD70ACe cabs.. The same ones that the 90s got.. I'm guessing it's because they're replacing all of the electronics in them.
Drat. Oh well maybe they will get the new tier 4 SD70ace cabs with the old style teardrop windows.
Why are so many of the rebuilt UP running without the NS black paint?
They aren't.. They've all been painted black.
I'm trying to find out what the U designation is on those units
Unit?
Loved all the info,,,definitely a new subscriber. Im assuming the "ACU" stands for AC traction motors and the ultra cab? Seems logical to me. We have a CIT rail SD60 sitting broke down, here in central GA. Its 6028, ex BN.
Cool. I just saw 6029 and 6030 over the last few weeks.. I honestly don't know what the "U" is for but I thank you for subscribing and allow me to return the favor.. Subscribed.
Superb
Thanks, man..
Awesome Video with all in info & Yardshots wonder where the NJT cars were built or fixed any idea were in jersey Thanks
They're going to Alstom in Hornell, NY for routine maintenance and/or repair..
Thanks Alot Bud Have a Great Night
Several (10 I believe) of the former UP (6000hp) SD90Mac's were on a short term lease to the KCS in 201?. They spent most of there time out of service dew to electoral and prime mover failures. KCS returned them to EMD for SD70ace's.
Yeah, I read something like that myself.
0:36 does anyone realize that the union pacific lettering on the side of the 2nd locomotive has a big line through it.
because NS owned it
Curious question, do the SD70ACU's have DPU capability, or are they like the SD70M's and lack it? For the record, DPU capability is being able to lead a train and have DPU's on the rear, or to be a sole DPU.
Rewatch the video.
geofftech Yep, dumb question. Didn’t watch the video clear enough.
Yes, they're DPU capable.
Very nice
Thanks man.
awesome video and sweet.
Thanks, Phil.
Nice.
Thanks, man..
very nice video 😊😊
Thanks, Richard..
Top vídeo
Thanks man.. Glad that you enjoyed it.
Are there different color gondolas for different loads? coal, I know pink gons are usually potash and black is but what was in the orange ones?
Orange gondolas are usually assigned to MOW (maintence of way) service. That means they are used to haul ties, ballast, hardware and even sometimes prefab switches around the railroad during trackwork.
The best.
Did northfolk southern collect all the SD 90s
Not all of them, but a lot.
110
Thanks trains 21
You're welcome.
35:46 In Memory of Jeff Seindel
Maybe it's a district thing, but where I live, NS seems to prefer having GEs on the point of the lash up. I see more EMDs in DPU and have often seens EMD SD70s (M-2 and ACE) working the local.
Possibly.. Thanks for that info.
Same here with Union Pacific in Arkansas
This is awesome :))
Thanks, Man..
Is this in Pennsylvania because of there is Sunbury lines in Pennsylvania to
Yes
Trains that come thur the ghetto it make u feel like it's a very bad part of town
What were those passenger cars, Amtrak?
New Jersey Transit
21:41 Did
7265 is an Ex Union Pacific
And i didn't know that
Interesting
What was the date of the 37T at 22:07?
Sometime during January 2018 I think
8859 is scrapped?!
Rebuilt into an AC44C6M
@@Trains21 that's Great!, ac44c6m are so cool!, but i have a question, SD60E's are original product by EMD or are rebuilt by Norfolk Southern?
@@Luis-ys7fi Rebuilt by NS
all NS dash 9 standard cabs were rebuilt into wide cabs
Can you please make videos about the other rebuilds?
I'm working on it.
what does the U mean in SD70acu ?
Don't know
The U mean "Upgraded".