At last, someone that blacked underneath also.. Why people believe it won’t rust underneath amazes me. The water is full of microorganisms and love bare metal work.
I love your knowledge, enthusiasm and that you are willing to take the time and effort to share your life afloat with the rest of us. Many thanks and best wishes.
Hi Jasmin, What a great job you and your partner did, I have never blackened a narrow boat, however, I have scraped, sanded, and applied anti-fouling paint on the bottom of seagoing sailboats. It is a dirty dusty job and when you are done for the day you are exhausted and your arms feel like they will fall off. The good thing about doing your own work is that you save money, learn new skills and have a more intimate understanding of the condition of your boat. Because your diesel engine is so important to your mobility and life style I suggest you and your partner take an engine maintenance course. Back in the 1970's I owned a diesel Isuzu SUV that was so rare here in the USA that I kept a factory service manual and a factory parts manual in the vehicle and I referenced it many times. If you can find manuals even used on eBay (hopefully in English) they will be very handy as reference for yourselves and any mechanic that comes to work on the engine will really appreciate them too.
hello we have learned alot about our engine and i am lucky to have a diesel engineer in the family so usually when things need doing we get instructions over the phone . we got a manual with the boat previous engine kept every bit of paper work ever very lucky!
Great work o the Blacking Jasmin & ? , yeah the Bitumen in Blacking may have contributed to your allergies, looking forward to the next Narrowboat Adventure 👍😎👌
I think this is when you create a second channel with a group of other narrowboaters and a 24 pack of beer or a pitcher of margaritas. call the channel drinking and maintenance, thats when you get 6 other friends and family together to help paint and clean of the bottom, your boats bum is looking great .
or the other things is kind of like the old tootsie pop commercials with the owl and make it kid friendly channel, how many rolls from the roller does it take to get to the center of the narrowboat or the adult version and also make it like a game show how many doesnt it take you to get to the center of the narrowboat and still standing and the winner gets another beer jk
I'm in the middle of helping out doing the same thing on a friends boat, had the hull surveyed (3 little welds, not bad for a 100 yrs old hull) and put 25 litres of blacking on. Luckily the boat was craned out and the bottom is about 4'6 off the floor so we could scrape and brush from the comfort of a deckchair, unluckily it hasn't been done for a long time so took a lot of scraping and scratching. I have done the same at low level like yourselves in the past, the neck discomfort can often be reduced just by laying a little closer even though it then seems you're far too close, a pallet to lay on might have helped.
Nice video and good job blacking Jasmine. The bad news is that every time you rub against a mooring or bang against a lock you will be thinking about the hard work that goes into blacking. Oh well, it needs to be done.
Looks like you used Phil's place, great marina. I'll be blacking soon but going as cheap as possible. A friend of mine said they used to do it on the Thames at low tide!? You say 6 tubs of paint? How many did you use on the baseplate and how long is she?
You mentioned while the boat was being painted in dry dock, you could no longer use the sink or the shower because the water going out the thru hull fittings would ruin the paint. There for the dry dock experience was less than a good thing. So in the future when you do this again, stuff pvc pipe into the thru hull fittings and seal them by what means necessary, will protect the paint and you can still use your on board sink and shower etc.
be good to learn how you film and edit your trip , i will have to look on you tube to see how it is don , ,have a safe trip , your partner is a good looking lad , what you see of him
Fantastic video Jasmine I'm in the process of looking for my first Live on boat, hopefully I'll find one before winter. But it's this sort of thing that answers so many of my questions so thank you. Would love to watch live. Personally I'm very flexible with times as long as I know when. If you ever come up as far as Coventry say hi lol.. keep them coming 😁
Can regular blacking delay the need for overplating indefinitely or is overplating inevitable? I've read about some boats requiring overplating at a cost of several thousand pounds.
Girl Power :) if you plan on doing anymore painting then just let me know. I am a senior carer for the elderly and I will send you a couple of boxes of gloves! Now chill and drink cold beer :) x
A fun weekend of upsidedown blacking 😨. Your narrowboat was resting on two dollies when pulled out of the canal. Did you have to jack-up the boat so you could move the dollies to paint there?
Is it bitumen based blacking? This could explain there being less around the water line from previous coats, as it tends to dissolve in contact with diesel or many other contaminants that float on the cut.also interested in primer you used, i've never seen primer used before blacking ( apart from zinc guard primer for two pack blacking). Looks like you did a proper job, I've never seen such attention to detail while painting blacking. Good on you.
Hi Jasmin. Your narrowboat has a very smooth hull. I believe this makes a significant difference in fuel savings (less resistance). You did a beautiful job, just like the bow deck. We call that coating coal tar epoxy. Seems your boat has had good owners in the past. Lying under the boat and painting may have been unpleasant but at least you had a relatively dry space to lie on, and having the boat up on the railcar certainly was preferable to trying to work in muck between tides. I always feel uncomfortable when i'm working under several tonnes of steel! One time we dropped a 6 ton rudder right next to where i was standing, it stayed upright on the crossbeams of the drydock, but certainly startled me! I am curious about some dimensions; can you tell me how long and how wide your boat is? I am asking so i can estimate how much weight it would take to lower the boat each additional inch into the water. Like if the waterline length is 60' and the width is 9' then i'm guessing that it would take around 1,955 pounds of weight to add each additional inch of draught, in fresh water. What got me thinking about it was the overplating question; because not only would overplating cost several thousand £ but it would add several thousand pounds (avoir) to the displacement. So a narrowboat would need a ton less stuff on it or maybe float a couple of inches lower in the water. I hope im not bothering you by asking about the length and width. No reply nec if i am. Thank You Jasmin BTW Cuprous oxide paint is more suitable for salt water antifouling than fresh, and more suitable for wooden or GRP hulls than those made from steel or aluminum. Malted milk bikies sounds heavenly. 58' x 7' about 1467# 50' x 6' about 1174 I am using a salt water nomograph from Skene's and adding a bit more than 2% to allow for fresh water
Since narrowboats are all about volume, these estimates are all on the low side. It will take a bit more weight added than this for a given amount of draft gain.
USA citizen, no narrowboat experience other than your videos: Can blacking be sprayed? How often and why do you get a boat surveyed ? Are there narrowboats for hire say for a week or so? Interesting videos. Thank you.
I dout it, it is basically tar. always survery a boat when you buy i know there is an age when the insurance company need you to update the survey every few years but not sure what age that would be. yes there are boats for hire for a week or so
You can certainly hire broadbeams for travelling the Thames (We did Teddington to Lechlade and back) and narrowboats from many places for the canals. My wife and I have done it three times over the years (we live in Canada) and have absolutely loved it each time. You don't need to know much and they show you a whole host of how-to's before letting you go. Rentals can be a three/four day break, a week or longer. If you don't trust yourself I believe there are hotel narrowboats where a 'crew' does the work. We haven't tried them though.
May i sugest quail eggs for your allergies ......"quail eggs" ........ have been eating them since February ......... amazing results .......... no meds just enjoy summer season ........S
Chicago Renee here...I'm green (ignorant) by 'blacking' other than color of paint are you talking about 'tar' as in tarring? Or is your blacking a rubber coating???
What the measurement from the bottom to the water line? We are required to us anti-fouling paint (Copper Oxide) in metal surfaces below the water line. Great vid, I love your efforts!
It hurt me to see you trying to hold your head off the ground with your hand behind your head. Getting under trucks, I have had to do that, too, and I always ended up with a sore neck afterwards. At least you can revel in the sense of accomplishment.
Greetings from California USA, I really enjoy your vlog keep up the good work. Just a DYI for allergies, try consuming local raw honey it helps build an immunity.
Larry Edge I have heard this but not that helpful when you don't really have a local (plus not many places to get London honey where we are most offten)
we use anti-fouling Anti-fouling paint - a category of commercially available underwater hull paints (also known as bottom paints) - is a specialized category of coatings applied as the outer (outboard) layer to the hull of a ship or boat, to slow the growth and/or facilitate detachment of subaquatic organisms that attach to the hull and can affect a vessel's performance and durability (see also biofouling). Anti-fouling paints are often applied as one component of multi-layer coating systems
I saw David did it in Cruising The Cut and it wasn't pleasurable at all. Imagine I have to strip and repaint my car every 2-3 years! Is it applicable to wide beams as well? Must be heck-of-a underbelly to black!
At last, someone that blacked underneath also..
Why people believe it won’t rust underneath amazes me. The water is full of microorganisms and love bare metal work.
I love your knowledge, enthusiasm and that you are willing to take the time and effort to share your life afloat with the rest of us. Many thanks and best wishes.
C Cooper thank you!
Your boat turned into a train! choo choo!
Hi Jasmin, What a great job you and your partner did, I have never blackened a narrow boat, however, I have scraped, sanded, and applied anti-fouling paint on the bottom of seagoing sailboats. It is a dirty dusty job and when you are done for the day you are exhausted and your arms feel like they will fall off. The good thing about doing your own work is that you save money, learn new skills and have a more intimate understanding of the condition of your boat. Because your diesel engine is so important to your mobility and life style I suggest you and your partner take an engine maintenance course. Back in the 1970's I owned a diesel Isuzu SUV that was so rare here in the USA that I kept a factory service manual and a factory parts manual in the vehicle and I referenced it many times. If you can find manuals even used on eBay (hopefully in English) they will be very handy as reference for yourselves and any mechanic that comes to work on the engine will really appreciate them too.
hello we have learned alot about our engine and i am lucky to have a diesel engineer in the family so usually when things need doing we get instructions over the phone . we got a manual with the boat previous engine kept every bit of paper work ever very lucky!
Jasmin, Sorry to hear your sniffles, Great your happy with the blackening. Well, informative Video there Jasmin Cheers.
derrick felix thanks I really enjoyed the nutshell videos would Defford give them a watch if you haven't seen them :)
Hi Jasmin; what was that primer you used?
CruisingTheCut it's internationals primer primocon I think ?
Great work o the Blacking Jasmin & ? , yeah the Bitumen in Blacking may have contributed to your allergies, looking forward to the next Narrowboat Adventure 👍😎👌
George Stephen just had my 1st shower in a week and feel much less sneezy! !!
Nice vidio Jasmin ,Enjoyed it a lot...
Enjoy your videos. Hope you're feeling better soon.
fred murray I do feel better now I've washed!
Woe betide the first person to rub their boat alongside yours!
Great vid. Thanks.
Richard W haha we don't kind double mooring that's what fenders are for!
Quite a schedule, looks very sharp
thank you!
lovely stuff blacking lol.if i put best day / time to watch id have to remember it lol
I think this is when you create a second channel with a group of other narrowboaters and a 24 pack of beer or a pitcher of margaritas. call the channel drinking and maintenance, thats when you get 6 other friends and family together to help paint and clean of the bottom, your boats bum is looking great .
puffy1333 I like this idea... watch this space
or the other things is kind of like the old tootsie pop commercials with the owl and make it kid friendly channel, how many rolls from the roller does it take to get to the center of the narrowboat or the adult version and also make it like a game show how many doesnt it take you to get to the center of the narrowboat and still standing and the winner gets another beer jk
I'm in the middle of helping out doing the same thing on a friends boat, had the hull surveyed (3 little welds, not bad for a 100 yrs old hull) and put 25 litres of blacking on. Luckily the boat was craned out and the bottom is about 4'6 off the floor so we could scrape and brush from the comfort of a deckchair, unluckily it hasn't been done for a long time so took a lot of scraping and scratching. I have done the same at low level like yourselves in the past, the neck discomfort can often be reduced just by laying a little closer even though it then seems you're far too close, a pallet to lay on might have helped.
Dave I didn't find it too painful on the neck mostly the arms after a wile. a little claustrophobic!
Dave also wow 100 year old boat and only a little spot welding very good!
Hi Jasmine can I ask you said 6 tins were they 5 litres?
Very good video
hi john glad you liked it!
pulling your boat out on a railroad track is unusual. what do i need for a live youtube event?
Nice video and good job blacking Jasmine. The bad news is that every time you rub against a mooring or bang against a lock you will be thinking about the hard work that goes into blacking. Oh well, it needs to be done.
Dennis Furr well that's why you do it!! :)
Yes Boaters Black your Bottoms! :)
The decision as to whether to black the bottom or not should rest with the individual boater - say NO to bottom shaming!
Really liked this video of blacking ya bottom.
thanks!
What exactly is blacking ? Is it a epoxy? Tar? What is it ?
Where did you go to have her pulled out of the water to do the blacking?
Well done you! She has a great bottom.
The Narrowboat Experience why thank you!
Looks like you used Phil's place, great marina. I'll be blacking soon but going as cheap as possible. A friend of mine said they used to do it on the Thames at low tide!? You say 6 tubs of paint? How many did you use on the baseplate and how long is she?
Jam a length of pvc pipe into the overboard drains before painting, nothing will drip on the paint and you can still use sicks and so on.
im sorry i didnt really undersand this!
You mentioned while the boat was being painted in dry dock, you could no longer use the sink or the shower because the water going out the thru hull fittings would ruin the paint. There for the dry dock experience was less than a good thing. So in the future when you do this again, stuff pvc pipe into the thru hull fittings and seal them by what means necessary, will protect the paint and you can still use your on board sink and shower etc.
ah will try this next time! thanks!
thanks , you did a great job, do you rent the site and pay for them to take the boat out of the water , then paint it your self
yes exsactly
Did you pressure wash the base plate too?
yes
and painted it
be good to learn how you film and edit your trip , i will have to look on you tube to see how it is don , ,have a safe trip , your partner is a good looking lad , what you see of him
Fantastic video Jasmine I'm in the process of looking for my first Live on boat, hopefully I'll find one before winter. But it's this sort of thing that answers so many of my questions so thank you. Would love to watch live. Personally I'm very flexible with times as long as I know when. If you ever come up as far as Coventry say hi lol.. keep them coming 😁
This Comment is three years old, so I’m wondering, did your dream come true?
I’ve just looked at your channel and I see you did buy a boat, congratulations!
I did yes but then I met my now wife and everything changed I sold the boat and now have an amazing new life
Are there fiberglass hulls. If not used probably too fragile. Is epoxy over metal used and if so, does it hold better than blacking?
there are fiberglass boats. ive never heard of any one useing epoxy
Can regular blacking delay the need for overplating indefinitely or is overplating inevitable? I've read about some boats requiring overplating at a cost of several thousand pounds.
How much did it cost to black your narrow boat and how long did it take?
Great vid ☺ I'd say that's another job jobbed lol I'm 👀 looking 👀 forward to the next vid 👋
Bruno B I know many jobs job bed lately very satisfying!
Girl Power :) if you plan on doing anymore painting then just let me know. I am a senior carer for the elderly and I will send you a couple of boxes of gloves! Now chill and drink cold beer :) x
Jules Robinson haha! will bare that in mind! :)
ThisNarrowboatAdventure n
I may have missed if you said or not, but do you paint the boat's bottom every year?
David Russell every two years we will. many boaters leave it 3-5 years! I don't think I could do that!
A fun weekend of upsidedown blacking 😨. Your narrowboat was resting on two dollies when pulled out of the canal. Did you have to jack-up the boat so you could move the dollies to paint there?
dav snow no as I say we just couldn't paint those bits :(
ThisNarrowboatAdventure Thanks for your reply Jasmin. I couldn't hear the narrative on my phone.
Is it bitumen based blacking? This could explain there being less around the water line from previous coats, as it tends to dissolve in contact with diesel or many other contaminants that float on the cut.also interested in primer you used, i've never seen primer used before blacking ( apart from zinc guard primer for two pack blacking).
Looks like you did a proper job, I've never seen such attention to detail while painting blacking. Good on you.
Hi Jasmin. Your narrowboat has a very smooth hull. I believe this makes a significant difference in fuel savings (less resistance). You did a beautiful job, just like the bow deck. We call that coating coal tar epoxy. Seems your boat has had good owners in the past.
Lying under the boat and painting may have been unpleasant but at least you had a relatively dry space to lie on, and having the boat up on the railcar certainly was preferable to trying to work in muck between tides. I always feel uncomfortable when i'm working under several tonnes of steel! One time we dropped a 6 ton rudder right next to where i was standing, it stayed upright on the crossbeams of the drydock, but certainly startled me!
I am curious about some dimensions; can you tell me how long and how wide your boat is? I am asking so i can estimate how much weight it would take to lower the boat each additional inch into the water. Like if the waterline length is 60' and the width is 9' then i'm guessing that it would take around 1,955 pounds of weight to add each additional inch of draught, in fresh water.
What got me thinking about it was the overplating question; because not only would overplating cost several thousand £ but it would add several thousand pounds (avoir) to the displacement. So a narrowboat would need a ton less stuff on it or maybe float a couple of inches lower in the water.
I hope im not bothering you by asking about the length and width. No reply nec if i am. Thank You Jasmin
BTW
Cuprous oxide paint is more suitable for salt water antifouling than fresh, and more suitable for wooden or GRP hulls than those made from steel or aluminum.
Malted milk bikies sounds heavenly.
58' x 7' about 1467#
50' x 6' about 1174
I am using a salt water nomograph from Skene's and adding a bit more than 2% to allow for fresh water
*...Adding 2.2% to the draft. And the rudder we managed to drop was 6,000 pounds, not 6 tons.
Since narrowboats are all about volume, these estimates are all on the low side. It will take a bit more weight added than this for a given amount of draft gain.
USA citizen, no narrowboat experience other than your videos: Can blacking be sprayed? How often and why do you get a boat surveyed ? Are there narrowboats for hire say for a week or so? Interesting videos. Thank you.
I dout it, it is basically tar. always survery a boat when you buy i know there is an age when the insurance company need you to update the survey every few years but not sure what age that would be. yes there are boats for hire for a week or so
You can certainly hire broadbeams for travelling the Thames (We did Teddington to Lechlade and back) and narrowboats from many places for the canals. My wife and I have done it three times over the years (we live in Canada) and have absolutely loved it each time. You don't need to know much and they show you a whole host of how-to's before letting you go. Rentals can be a three/four day break, a week or longer. If you don't trust yourself I believe there are hotel narrowboats where a 'crew' does the work. We haven't tried them though.
i have a 360 camera you can have for a week or too?
narrowboat 360 ooo where are you based ?
ThisNarrowboatAdventure hi im in the middle near davenrty iv not yet gone live whit my youtube not time
May i sugest quail eggs for your allergies ......"quail eggs" ........ have been eating them since February ......... amazing results .......... no meds just enjoy summer season ........S
I will look into this!
What are the biscuits at time 4:54?
Malted Milk
Chicago Renee here...I'm green (ignorant) by 'blacking' other than color of paint are you talking about 'tar' as in tarring? Or is your blacking a rubber coating???
Hi Jasmine , do all Narrowboaters have dirty bottoms ?
below the water line !
Below the water line!
Hi Jasmine, how much did this cost or save you by doing the work yourselves, love your uploads look forward to next. best wishes Jay & Buster xx
Jason Gowans it cost us just over half of what it would if we had the boat yard do it £1500 ish
What the measurement from the bottom to the water line? We are required to us anti-fouling paint (Copper Oxide) in metal surfaces below the water line. Great vid, I love your efforts!
I do not know!
I doubt there's an over-the-counter remedy that would ease the pain in my arms and back, if I tried painting under a boat that way.
ohbobpleez haha it was a bit sore there is always pirate coffee ;)
No problem, I forgive you this time.
Ted Wilderotter phew!
It hurt me to see you trying to hold your head off the ground with your hand behind your head. Getting under trucks, I have had to do that, too, and I always ended up with a sore neck afterwards. At least you can revel in the sense of accomplishment.
If you put Barrier cream or Vaseline on you skin before blacking it will come of your skin easier
will do this next time!
Greetings from California USA, I really enjoy your vlog keep up the good work. Just a DYI for allergies, try consuming local raw honey it helps build an immunity.
Larry Edge I have heard this but not that helpful when you don't really have a local (plus not many places to get London honey where we are most offten)
Bummer it has helped me and the family a great deal.
i blacking every year 10 sailboats lol from 30 foot to 45 foot
adj63 I hear there is a big difference with salt and fresh water boats?
we use anti-fouling Anti-fouling paint - a category of commercially available underwater hull paints (also known as bottom paints) - is a specialized category of coatings applied as the outer (outboard) layer to the hull of a ship or boat, to slow the growth and/or facilitate detachment of subaquatic organisms that attach to the hull and can affect a vessel's performance and durability (see also biofouling). Anti-fouling paints are often applied as one component of multi-layer coating systems
You should wear gloves to protect your hands
That bottom could use a tattoo.
Why do we not see your partner in your blogs?
❤️❤️😢
hes shy
I saw David did it in Cruising The Cut and it wasn't pleasurable at all. Imagine I have to strip and repaint my car every 2-3 years! Is it applicable to wide beams as well? Must be heck-of-a underbelly to black!
yes all boats need some kind of mantainace like this even the plastic ones
I'm surprised all aluminium narrowboats (or even stainless steel ones) aren't encountered more often.
Luv the vids but audio not so good
Why didn’t you use an airless spray gun .
The bituminous black is too thick & heavy to spray apply. If you were to thin it down, more coats will be required and no time is saved.
Heated it would go through an airless
Please take an allergy med and get some tissue. You seem so miserable. Hope you're doing better.
Very attractive young lady
thank you
I no longer want a narrow boat.
Good ! :)
Yours being an older boat is made from better steel . Today’s steel is not as good quality . Full of impurities and carbon laps .