How Were Games Updated Pre-Internet?
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Today I wanted to talk about game updates, again.
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0:38 THIS GUY TRIED TO SPINDASH IN SONIC 1
Shhhhhh
Nahh
lol I remember the first time I played the OG on emulator and was confused when I tried spin dashing. It’s just that iconic 😅
This crime shall not go unpunished
i do that too, I'm surprised more re-releases of it doesnt have the spin dash
I consider myself to be very knowledgeable about Sonic, but I never knew about Revision 00 and Revision 01's differences. Very fascinating.
Same, first time hearing about the different names and revisions. My extension of knowledge of revisions for the original trilogy were really just box art changes, text differences, naming changes, etc.
Sonic 1 in North America on Genesis was ONLY REV00, there has been no evidence that REV01 was ever released here. Not even through Sonic Compilation / Classics. Likewise, there has been no evidence that REV00 was ever released in Japan. The ROM Header calling it a JUE is a misnomer because all it means is that the cartridge itself isn't region locked.
Didn't we already have this video?
Technically yes, but this is sorta a part 2 - only way I figured that out was from this video’s description
@@Raidraptor_-_Ultimate_Falconthis is like a part 4
Back in 2005, there was a rumor that they were going to release a disc/memory card file that added tag matches to Smackdown vs. RAW's online mode... and we believed it.
Adding an limited conditional (i guess) to save the game is alredy brutal, but reducing the amount of times you can do it is overkill
Sonic 3 and k was og dlc and people forget that when they talk about sonic dlc
it wasn’t downloadable though.
@@giganticmoonstill Orginal dlc
@@giganticmoontrue, though it was the first example of additional content for a game
@@ObsessiveGeek yeah, it was.
Im a simple man. i see Sonic and Kingdom Hearts, i click
You have some great tastes
@@seaslash20 thank you
Autism
I want to mention something else regarding Kingdom Hearts 1 Final Mix. Back in the day, for OG Fat PS2 console models, Sony made an add-on called the PS2 Hard Disk Drive that can connect to the internet and download data that can be installed onto PS2 games. Kingdom Hearts 1 Final Mix was one of the few compatible games. The Install Data reduced load times for the game, and that’s it. It was a bit redundant because if you turned off your console and rebooted it up, the install data would be lost even if you saved your game. So each time, you had to go through this process only to reduce load times.
We basically had to buy the same game twice, that’s how. Though with Kingdom Hearts, we wouldn’t get any of the final mix releases until the 1.5 and 2.5 HD remasters, and so those of us who grew up with the series on the PS2 were essentially playing them for the first time. Which’s was extra confusing for younger me due to Kingdom Hearts 2 including a cutscene from 1 that was exclusive to the final mix version.
Yeah, for all the hate DLC gets, it is much better than what we had before. There's no Kingdom Hearts 3 Final Mix, Pokemon has stopped releasing updated versions of their games a year later, fighting games don't need to re-released just to add new characters or to re-balance things anymore, etc.
@@darrenmacqueen9884 Hell, even Atlus made Episode Aigis as DLC for Persona 3 Reload, instead of just rereleasing it a year later like with every other game of theirs as Persona 3 Second Reload or some shiet.
@amirgarcia547 True. I really hated how they did that with Persona 5. I thought we were past that point in the industry. I refused to buy Persona 5 Royal for that reason. Already bought it once and played it, not buying it a second time on the same console.
"Super" editions (various names from Super to Ultra to Deluxe, etc. etc.), regional editions that came years apart, "International" versions, and expansion packs. All sold as brand new games. Buy the game again if you want more content!
And then came the "DLC rage". Those few months where people were actually upset over DLC and especially "on disc DLC", because some data was needed to be stored on disc (just like it is now in the 1.0 versions of the games) in order for early DLC to function. Short lived, but embarrassing as hell since it was just the transitional period.
Growing up and seeing these things change and evolve really was something. And now we're here, it's so easy to patch-update a game now, and I for one love it. I know some people still haven't gotten through that transitional period, but it actually is way better than buying the same game like 3-4 times to get max content, or being stuck with game breaking bugs that never got patched out.
Being an old man is actually awesome. I don't let my nostalgia blind me to the point where I'd actually want expansion packs and "super" editions back. If you want more content, just patch it in. It's easy.
The internet has been a double edged sword. With the benefit of easy updates some developers and publishers have developed a "We'll patch it later" mentality. Many high profile games have released in broken and unfinished states.
I love your videos Kiro! Please keep making them. I'm learning English and they're such amazing way to learn new words and expand my gaming knowledge
The skipping cutscene feature was added to the HD 1.5 remix version of the game(which also adds 2 new abilities & remixed music), the PS2 version of Final Mix allows to skip cutscenes only after watching them once(so after you die to a boss & re enter the boss area, two options appear on screen to either skip or re-watch)
Love RE1 Deadly Silence. Shout to my grandma buying me this on summer break in Oklahoma. It was the first time I actually beat RE1 because as a kid my copy of Directors cut scared me lmao
1:24 The difference between PS5 and PS5 Pro
nah, cause I could notice the clouds moving
@@pocketglove my guy/gal it was a joke
@CracAintWack I know, I am continuing the joke, by saying that the difference between the ps5 and ps5 is so small, that even the difference between revision 0 and 1 is bigger.
@@pocketglove ah.
@@CracAintWack gonna make this less awk, funny joke guys very cool 👍
I loved going to GameStop for Pokémon dlc!
Generally back then when it came to major glitches that could even make the game unplayable they would release a new physical copy version of the game that would replace the original release in store shelves while you could also often trade in your effected release copy of the game for the patched release for free like if it was a recall of a product.
How did developers update their games pre-internet?
That's the neat part, they didn't
instead they just sold a 1.1 version of the game and stopped production of 1.0 either that or they'd come out with a special edition or a director's cut or a collectors edition or a 3rd version like pokemon platinum or a remake a few years later or they fix it in the international version or they'd fix it in a port to a different console or they'd create a games collection and fix it there
There's also the expantion packs on PC games, like Final Doom, Duke Nukem 3D Atomic Edition, etc, etc. Expansion packs were pretty cool actually
It's great to see some good gaming content
Interesting to see how many different versions there are of the same game.
As far as I know I've watched every video of yours so I believe I've seen those other ones you mentioned in your playlist about video game updates but this was really interesting and I'm glad you're covering more of them. However, I don't recall if you talked about what they did in Pokemon pre-internet. Like basically you would what was it take it to an event and they could load something in your cartridge to get new Pokemon I don't remember how it worked maybe with some kind of Link cable things when you trade Pokemon and they would just have some kind of version of the game that has a Pokemon you can only get like Mew
Ah cart repatches/game recalls, adaptors like yes Sonic did, ah expansion packs on PC to add to thr game or GTA London PS1 with original game to load into RQM/saves then apply the London disk to the game (assuming no clue). What a time.
I actually played DS a ton, always made me wonder why 2 or 3 never showed up. Kinda like how I was hoping for more ps2 games on the 3ds after Dragon Quest 8.
I think he likes Sonic
I remember first playing Sim City 4 I got put off because it crashed so much. It was only when I became aware of Online patch downloads that I realised they had a patch for it and from that day on I never had it crash like that again.
1:00 No, everyone I've met played REV00... Unless they were Japanese or happened to emulate a Japanese ROM...
I hate how there's no option to change the Heartless colors back to their originals. Can't stand when changes are made with little or no reasoning given why.
I just checked the 6-Pak and the Sonic Classics cart. Nope. Both Revision 00 like my "not for resale" copy.
for some reason I like Rev 00 sonic 1 best
I don't know why
JP2 is much better, but the little imperfections of Rev 00 just add so much more to it for me..!?
The revisions after Rev 00 just feel a little too perfect for some reason-almost as if something is off about it..
But then I realize that I grew up with a Rev 00 cartridge.
Finally, some not-Sonic video
0:30 FFFFFFFUUUUUUU
Interesting how Western version of RE1 was harder than Japanese. Its other way round in most cases
0:00 SpongeBob and Patrick
Pre internet? I'm still waiting for my ps3 brother in arms hell's highway glitch patch, from falling through the map.
AGAINAGAIN?
Can you make a game box art part 2 but only show the US and EU versions? (I kinda find those interesting)
W video🔥🔥
How do you know? It uploaded less than four minutes ago and it’s twenty minutes long.
Bro didnt even finished the vídeo ☠️🙏
w ratio 🔥🔥watch the whole video yn
4:16 Why are you playing the same clip twice, you're gonna humiliate yourself even more
Isn't this an reupload?
Edit: Nvm
No this has different games but yes, it is the same concept
Check the description.
hey kid, wanna buy street fighter 2 for the SNES six times?
OH BOY DO I EVER
Platinum editions
0:13 oh you screwed up. If you're basing this on when games actually had online patching that was before 2006. Starcraft came out to the PC in 1998 they had done patching for the game throughout the 2000s. Warcraft 3 reign of chaos came out in 2002 and its expansion set The Frozen throne came out in 2003. The Frozen throne had many patch updates very soon after it was released. And continue to have patches throughout the rest of the decade.
I think it's fair to assume he meant with regards to console gaming, which *generally* didn't have online patching until the PS3/xbox360 gen made it easier and more widespread of a practice
All bro says is that’s when it became common practice. PCs could do it but consoles couldn’t as easily, which is most of the gaming market.
3 minutes?
E
One minute and 3 views? Bro fell off💀💀
nobody has ever made this joke befoee
for the love of god shut up
3 likes in 7 minutes? Bro fell off 💀 💀
"One minute and 3 views? Bro fell off 💀💀" 🤓
4:32. this explains a lot. When I played the classic Sonic trilogy recently I was weirded out when I didn't die combo-ed by the spikes
The skipping cutscene feature was added to the HD 1.5 remix version of the game(which also adds 2 new abilities & remixed music), the PS2 version of Final Mix allows to skip cutscenes only after watching them once(so after you die to a boss & re enter the boss area, two options appear on screen to either skip or re-watch)
no, the movie skip mechanic were already there on FM version on PS2 (the american and japanese versions lacked this feature entirely). The issue is that it is only enabled if you already watched the cutscene at least once, so it is possible to still have to see the cutscene multiple times because the game didnt save before a fight 😂