What are we thinking about this New / Unreleased Black Seamaster Professional? Imagine if they finally bring this models case thickness down and give us a "Mid-Size" 39-40mm? 🔥 Edit: I missed that there is no “60” on the bezel. Having a 24hr turnover has its drawbacks 😆
It’s exciting to see these developments. Mid size seems to be the sweet spot these days as it has been in decades past. I’ve nothing against larger sizes per se but for the vast majority, mid size just seems to be the more practical choice. It’s always going to be an excellent weekend when you drop a new video! Very well done as always 🥃
I think Omega resizing the watch right now is highly unlikely. Omega seems to be quite cheap at times. Unlike Tudor and Tag Heuer, they are not in the business of trying to give customers what they want. They keep wasting resources on creating these huge watches that would be fantastic if made in a unisex size. I think this is the same watch as the new blue Bond, with a different case back and just in blue. Don’t get me wrong, I love Omega watches, I’ve bought more Omegas than any other brand, but they were from the early 2000’s or vintage. Omega today hasn’t gotten the memo. Tudor and Tag have been looking better and better with the BB58 and 54 and the Glassboxes respectively. To me, Omegas biggest issue is that the majority of their sport watches are not unisex. Rolex makes watches that a wife or girlfriend can wear: Daytona, GMT, Submariner, etc. while Omegas are too big for women with the exception of the Aqua Terra
Same here, I was tempted with the beautiful BG859 but I simply can’t. The reminder and connection with the degenerates and filthy opening ceremony, faeces loaded river Seine for competitors to swim in and then be seriously sick, the transgender boxers, etc… and Filth Director In Chief Macron put me off that one with profound and lasting disgust. 💩🤢🤮
So for my daughter’s 18th birthday we went to the mall where there was a swatch boutique. She loves astronomy and I introduced here to the Swatch/Omega moon Swatches collection.Her favorite planet is Saturn and naturally she chose the Saturn watch. She was apprehensive at first not knowing if she would like wearing a watch that wasn’t an Apple Watch. I can tell you this quickly changed as she could not take it off and hasn’t. I’m thinking of buying her the Omega Constellation (green dial as is her favorite color)for when she graduates college next year at 19 years old. Sorry for the long story but I’d like your thoughts. As a father to see his daughter enjoy and appreciate her first watch was a gift in itself. 🙏🏻
It is an excellent idea ! 👏🏽🤗 That green Constellation she’ll cherish for so many years and looking at it she will always have a story to tell. Good vibes 👏🏽🍾🥂🤗
Hi Frank. Definitely get her the Constellation. My daughter fell in love with the Aqua Terra several years ago, and I was lucky enough to be able to buy her one for her 21st birthday. She's 30 early next year, but still loves the watch, wears it regularly, and will pass it down to her daughter in years to come. Your daughter will cherish her gift from you forever too.
That’s an awesome idea. It’s something she’ll always have and love.. My family bought an omega for me which I cherish. I’ll buy a watch for my daughter one day too.
@@aaronhewlett2067 I still have my Seamaster professional 200 pre bond that my parents bought me for my 21st birthday. Im 55 this year, and still wear it. It's always been back to omega for battery replacement, and comes back immaculate. I love it dearly, and it will be passed down when I've gone.
One thing to note, there isn’t a 60 min marker on the top of the rotating bezel. Daniel Craig’s version has the triangle marker differentiating it from the 60th anniversary Bond watch.
EXACTLY. I don't care about the diameter as long as it's no bigger than 42mm. Make the thickness 12.5mm and a 48 and less lug to lug and we're talking. Get rid of the gimmicky open caseback if you need to in order to make it slimmer. That is much more important for day to day wear and comfort over the occasional 5 second, "oh that's a cool looking movement. OK, back on the wrist!"
MAN ALIVE!!!! If this is all true, if it’s 39-40mm with a steel case back then I will be a very very happy man! Have Omega really listened!? If so take my money now. This is extremely exciting! I really hope it comes with a variant of the OG bracelet and not just on the mesh.
I contacted my Omega AD the day this dropped! One theory I heard that makes sense is that this will be released for the 60th Anniversary of Goldfinger in December.
@@watchnut Because that was just the 60th anniversary. Not a specific film. It really wouldn't make much sense since Connery wore the Rolex Submariner in Goldfinger and since the Submariner has one of the most Legendary wrist shots. That really show cases the Rolex it REALLY wouldn't make much sense. When watch fans think Goldfinger. They automatically think of the Rolex Submariner 6538
Appreciate it man, thank you! Had a 24hr turnover for this one so the quality isn’t tops but hey! Just imagine they manage to pull it off and deliver a real specialty 🔥
Omega: all our customers want a smaller more wearable size? These wearable sizes that are making our competitors all the money? Omega: Here’s a limited edition instead.👍
@@ID-Guy I have the feeling that this particular model looks small on the actor's wrist. I have the feeling Omega will stay 42ish or at least this is my hope.
Definitely 42mm. The question is whether this is a new core model or a special edition. If they do a core model in black and blue (non-bond) I’ll buy both… on the grey market after the price drops 20% 😏
Full agreement on all points, IDG and yes, the "staged exposure" via Daniel Craig's wrist is smart marketing (and Mr Craig knows it's good for his personal brand, too). One small point and forgive me for being grammarnazi: It's champing at the bit, not chomping.
39-40mm and monotone would be heaven! I was about to finally pull the trigger on that Moonwatch - maybe I should hold on a few more weeks?? Great vid as always my friend - your content is now an integral eagerly-awaited part of my Saturday afternoons! 🔥🔥🔥
Likely a Pip not “60” on the bezel, at least by the photos! To answer your question, “yes” this is good! Go to the store because if the yellow jacket but leave with the black one. 😊
Managed to get the Tudor Monochrome on the 5 link bracelet this week 😊😊 For me personally it's a watch that is almost perfect in every way for a 7.5 wrist. Great content as always , we'll now have to wait for the release date & stock availability.
@@rickjason215 Am I , Really , Said Who ? NOT ME ! But just for your information I do like to broaden my horizons by NOT putting all my eggs into a single basket with tunnel vision ! Have yourself wonderful rest of the day kind sir 👍👏👍👏
Judging by the size of it on the picture at 5:14, it definitely won't be 40mm. Daniel Craig has thick wrists too so he even made the speedy look small previously.
I love this new SMP. I really hope they go this direction for the standard SMP. Even better if it has a date. This watch on the Milanese is fire. Guaranteed it would also be as beautiful on some of the Omega NATOs or their rubber straps. Great video and discussion as always, ID_Guy! Now let’s hope they don’t do something disappointing with the price!
Glad the new one will have waves, since I have the non-wave black dial SMPc. I like that it's the only SMP300 of the lineup without waves. It also wears thinner than the current version.
One detail I'm really digging about these new machines, the wave patterning looks fantastic! Also enjoy the clean Black Ceramic machine - been tempted to pick up one many, many times ;)
I would love to own this watch! I have the current model and miss the slimnesses of the 2531.80 Bond Seamaster. Great video. Daniel is looking a little old, love his style!
A 40 mm monochrome SM is gonna be a killer watch. Seems aimed right at the BB monochrome. Your theory about market demand resetting is interesting. Are you saying that Omega (and perhaps Tutor) are paying more attention to what the “watch community” wants because the general public isn’t buying as much? I suppose that means us watch nerds are a larger portion of the market. Do you think they are trying to cater to us a bit more?
Yes yes yes I’ll take one but your renders should have triangle and lume pip at 12 instead of the 60 like the anniversary watch…always enjoy your video drops on a Saturday morning. Enjoy the weekend all!
Customer: we want tapered bracelet Omega: you got it, here's 50 shades of blue Customer: we want thinner case Omega: you got it, here's the shade of the Mai Tai Hemmingway drank one time in the Carribbean Customer: wa want a better bezel Omega: you got it, here's a non-stick frying pan
Been watching your videos for a while now and was inspired to start a collection. Started with the amzwatch, its specs for price and clean looks, now am looking for a dress watch to add.
3 opinions: 1) If not the earned press of pseudo-leaks, what else is a brand ambassador for? How many DeVilles has George Clooney sold via Omega paid press? 2) Returning to monochromatic palettes suggests the Special Edition fever is breaking at Bienne. 3) slimming/sizing down of pieces suggests Omega has recouped enough costs &or learned enough additional engineering to not have to overbuild the latest versions of the coaxial calibers.
I bought a watch from amzwatch lightly used for my last milestone birthday. Don't wear it as much as it deserves, but not afraid to, either. It's stunning . Good taste, Sir.
Ever since the co-axial movement was first introduced, the SMP has been a lot thicker. For that reason alone, I prefer the 90s/00s SMPs. I really do hope that they work some magic to make it thinner. Thanks for the video!
I think you gotta check at the time 5:49, you can see that it still has the lollipop seconds hand. Increase magnification starting 2.7 to 7.4 and you can see it clearly. I was planning on pulling the trigger on an old new stock SMP 41 black dial(first ceramic bezel) as I find them to have a good balance between sport and dress watch, but after hearing this I think I might just wait a little more. Awesome video once again and thanks for the info
I am a recent 2541.80 (GoldenEye quartz model) owner, and love it. I did replace the clasp and clasp end links with modern Seamaster clasp to allow micro adjust. Perfect watch for all occasions. I have a strong feeling this new Seamaster will feature: - 41mm case diameter - 12-13mm thickness - Completely ditch the outdated 90’s bracelet for the mesh and add micro adjust clasp to the mesh design - closed case back with hypocampus engraving to reduce thickness - No date - possibly a movement that allows for a quick-hour adjust like the 2541.80 and current Seamaster 300 (heritage) - reduce the colors available to limit production costs I think these changes would be welcomed and very smart for Omega. This needs to be a good middle ground between the Tudor Black Bay 41 and the Rolex Submariner. That’s its place! The size change and micro-adjust clasp would be no-brainers.
The current Nekton Edition is also without a date, lacks the glossy dial, has a solid case back and is a bit thinner than the date model, but it is still 42 mm and has a grade 5 titanium bezel which makes it lighter. It has received very little coverage because most of these watch sites cover what everyone else is covering... sort of like ambulance chasers.
40mm - Yes! 90s Bond wave pattern - Yes! Back to basics in terms of color and details - Yes! Matte bezel insert if that's the the case - Hell yes! BUT 19mm lug width - Not so much. Would love the tread style bracelet in 20mm with a taper though. That would make this new iteration my ideal SMP.
I have a decent sized wrist, and owned the current gen SMP300M for about a year before flipping it. It fit my wrist fine but I always had a slight suspicion that the dimensions being at 40 mm or so would tighten up the use of space on the dial a bit better. I think it would be great. After all, for the bigger dive watch there has always been the Planet Ocean, another excellent piece due for a refresh.
Hi. Hope you don’t mind me asking… Which model did you have and what was the final sale price? I’m considering the 60th one myself but if this drops and it’s smaller and thinner, I would probably trade up
Omega definitely needs to notch down the diameter a little more to the sweet spot of 38~40 mm. Thanks for another beautiful video full of appetizing visuals.
My favorite 2024 is the Prospex Limited Edition 1965 Recreation European Exclusive in Gradation Island Blue. The dial is stunning and the contrast when on a white strap is to die for. I will get my hands on one from amzwatch
I owned a mid size Bond Omega Seamaster with blue wave dial in the 90s and eventually sold it because I thought it was too small in comparison to everyone else at that time. If I had only hung onto that watch. Today it would be a classic and right in line with the trend to smaller timepieces.
It seems like no matter what they throw at us a majority of us enthusiasts are still going to justify the purchase of just about any minute changes we are still going to jump directly on the Omega train because no matter what if you enjoy the ride you're going to go for a spin no matter the length of the ride Thanks as always for sharing another professional view into watches my friend Be well 👍
To answer your question at the end, yes. Going back or to less like the 90s is the right call for this model at this time. Omega has gone too far "up" in the current model lineup. Pulling it back in size, date, and a new movement, the price would/will be "addition by subtraction". I am still waiting for them to remove the He valve. A white dail without the valve is a wish of mine for the Seamaster.
The helium escape valve is part of the Seamaster Professional’s DNA and likewise for the scalloped bezel. I don’t really understand why people are so obsessed with deleting the very DNA of the Seamaster Professional when are so many other watches from Omega and others to look from 😳🤔🧐🤯
Omega needs to give the SMP300 the same bracelet treatment as they did the Speedy and Aqua Terra. 42mm is fine, thickness is fine (sports watches aren't dress watches stop forcing them under a cuff, this is like taking an athlete and forcing them to write a 10 page essay), peanut butter cup is fine.
Hum… the 1990 Seamaster were pure elegance because these were slimmer. The NTTD is slimmer and has some of that elegance too, shaving 1mm from it would make it even more elegant. It must not be ultra thin though, just ultra light ☝🏽
As always another great video. Yes I do feel this is the direction the 300 pro should be leaning towards. If it is so, it actually puts this watch in the mix for me. As for the releases of new watches, the first time was fun, now it seems very staged. It's not bad though. I haven't purchased a watch lately, so I can not confirm the decline in sales, but when Omega removes the "wort" on the 300, that will be a sign.
Less is more is starting to resonate in Bienne. Next: Planet Ocean goes on a diet and receives some refinement. A “heritage” version that popular inspiration the 42mm LMPO!
I saw this video 2 months ago. Yet I am back because I just had to think about it again. I really love the idea of a little m smaller SMP. My 39 Black Bay Pro works perfect in size and a black Seamaster on Milenese could really be a complete banger for me. Let‘s hope omega goes on with that. The new FOIS is having the same direction. So there is hope. Take my money omega.
I really like that rendition. I am an omega fan and to me it looks better than a submariner. Omega is doing what nike does with new sneakers and i guess that works. Rolex is so extremely marketed , everywhere you see endorsements at events. People dont even realize the strength of the marketing , i pick omega.
And Omega's marketing is straight up embarrassing. They come off as more of a fashion brand now. Have you seen Omega's IG page? AWFUL. The Rolex is just marketing excuse always cracks me up. Maybe if Rolex had a bad product the marketing comment would have some truth to it but they don't. Rolex makes a great watch. The Swatch group has ruined Omega and to make matters worse Omega use alot parts made in China. That's right the lame Swatch group has been outsourcing from China for years. Unlike Rolex that's 100p Swiss made.
I always thought the mid size seamaster was 36mm? I may be the only one but that’s the size I’d love to see return. Unfortunately, I know that will never happen due to the “36mm us too small for a man’s watch” crowd that lead omega down the 42mm road. In an ideal world they would release the new seamaster in both 36mm and 40mm like Rolex with the explorer and then you have everyone covered no matter what size wrist… but I know we don’t live in one :D
Y’know, I’ve put together countless renders without that He crown and it loses “something” - it ends up looking more and more like a Tag Aquaracer very quickly 🤣 But if they could reduce the growth… with some kind of cream or something? Absolutely hahaha! Much love brother, I hope you have a great weekend!
I like Omega's occasional forays into playfulness, I actually bought the Speedy Tuesday Ultraman and love it but agree, recently it's been quite jazz handsy with the various mood swings on classic pieces. I do love this Black SMP though I feel maybe the No Time to Die version is a little more for me.
Looks great. I’m so happy if Omega are cutting down on the eye candy in their watches. If a return to the original size, and simplicity is a new trend it’s a great thing - hoping Rolex will do the same with their Submariner one day.
My guess is it's based on the case of the Danish frogmen's special edition, so a standard SMP300 but in a no date configuration. I think it's highly unlikely that it's a thinner case, but we shall see. I would have preferred a flat black matte dial, but perhaps that's a little too close to the Ti Yacht-Master for their liking. As for the 165.024, I hope you're right, maybe it'll be the big release for next year? Surely it's time!
Fascinating seeing those “secret service” no date variants floating around the internet. If anything, they might give it a solid caseback to reduce it by 0.075mm’s 😉
@@ID-Guy I saw one come up on ebay last summer, I tried to buy it but was driving and missed the final bid, it sold if memory serves for a little over £2,800. Really regret not buying it now.
It’s the Omega Unit Watch in a “public” fashion with gloss details instead of flat black… Not a big surprise it came, after all the positive feedback the Unit Watch received early in the year when it was worn in a major public setting. Surprised you didn’t made this connection.
I've recently began my obsession as a watch collector. And i must say- out of all the luxury brands I've been researching, for me the MaMaCoo 's watches are the most intriguing.
I own the current model and have always felt like it would look amazing without the date. If this is real, I'm definitely buying this one. Flatten the original bracelet a bit, give it a taper and I think we'll finally have the perfect watch!
Bezel needs to be bi-directional for Countdown and uni-directional for elapsed timing. Grippy for gloved or sweaty hands. 20mm for strap (SM300 is 21mm, hard to find straps)
The 42mm dia is ok, it is after all a diver, but shaving several mms of thickness off would be greatly appreciated. That would > increase the comfort level and also < the top heaviness.
If this ends up being 40mm and about 47-48mm lug to lug, I’m in! The mesh bracelet is excellent and if it ends up in two or three different colours, even better!
I think it's a bit too speculative on the size change. I expect it will still be the same case as before. If they'd redesigned the case I think we'd see a lot more fanfare around it.
I like the idea of a 40mm SMP though I'm still not wild about the wave dial, it has always looked a bit plastic and low end to me. I'm also a complete sucker for a lollipop second hand (no pun intended). So I'm on the fence on this one, definitely leaning toward the interested side for sure. I did just pick up my titanium Worldtimer yesterday and I'm in love, even at the larger size it is a beautiful watch.
I'm totally on board if they fix that lollipop second hand, which it appears they have. I was thinking the gloss black aquaterra might need to find its way onto my wrist, but maybe now I should wait and see what the specs on this are.
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What are we thinking about this New / Unreleased Black Seamaster Professional?
Imagine if they finally bring this models case thickness down and give us a "Mid-Size" 39-40mm? 🔥
Edit: I missed that there is no “60” on the bezel. Having a 24hr turnover has its drawbacks 😆
It’s exciting to see these developments. Mid size seems to be the sweet spot these days as it has been in decades past. I’ve nothing against larger sizes per se but for the vast majority, mid size just seems to be the more practical choice. It’s always going to be an excellent weekend when you drop a new video! Very well done as always 🥃
Looks good, if it’s priced right it’ll be a hit.
I think Omega resizing the watch right now is highly unlikely. Omega seems to be quite cheap at times. Unlike Tudor and Tag Heuer, they are not in the business of trying to give customers what they want. They keep wasting resources on creating these huge watches that would be fantastic if made in a unisex size. I think this is the same watch as the new blue Bond, with a different case back and just in blue.
Don’t get me wrong, I love Omega watches, I’ve bought more Omegas than any other brand, but they were from the early 2000’s or vintage. Omega today hasn’t gotten the memo. Tudor and Tag have been looking better and better with the BB58 and 54 and the Glassboxes respectively.
To me, Omegas biggest issue is that the majority of their sport watches are not unisex. Rolex makes watches that a wife or girlfriend can wear: Daytona, GMT, Submariner, etc. while Omegas are too big for women with the exception of the Aqua Terra
In a faltering global market it will have to be reasonably priced to trigger sales…
Let’s hope it’s 40 mm and slimmer…
It's a cool watch, but I will never want anything labeled with the 2024 Paris Olympics.
Same here, I was tempted with the beautiful BG859 but I simply can’t. The reminder and connection with the degenerates and filthy opening ceremony, faeces loaded river Seine for competitors to swim in and then be seriously sick, the transgender boxers, etc… and Filth Director In Chief Macron put me off that one with profound and lasting disgust. 💩🤢🤮
Agreed. But this one won’t be an Olympic watch. Like the white/gold one.
If that thing is 40mm and a closed case back I am sold.
why closed?
@@ЛентяйЁптаlikely thinner
Sounds too good to be true BUT hey, the more we say it, the more there’s a chance 😆🥃
@@ЛентяйЁпта thickness
@@ЛентяйЁптаbecause it should be a tool watch. And the modern Omega movements aren’t exactly lookers.
So for my daughter’s 18th birthday we went to the mall where there was a swatch boutique. She loves astronomy and I introduced here to the Swatch/Omega moon Swatches collection.Her favorite planet is Saturn and naturally she chose the Saturn watch. She was apprehensive at first not knowing if she would like wearing a watch that wasn’t an Apple Watch. I can tell you this quickly changed as she could not take it off and hasn’t. I’m thinking of buying her the Omega Constellation (green dial as is her favorite color)for when she graduates college next year at 19 years old. Sorry for the long story but I’d like your thoughts. As a father to see his daughter enjoy and appreciate her first watch was a gift in itself. 🙏🏻
It is an excellent idea ! 👏🏽🤗 That green Constellation she’ll cherish for so many years and looking at it she will always have a story to tell. Good vibes 👏🏽🍾🥂🤗
Hi Frank. Definitely get her the Constellation. My daughter fell in love with the Aqua Terra several years ago, and I was lucky enough to be able to buy her one for her 21st birthday. She's 30 early next year, but still loves the watch, wears it regularly, and will pass it down to her daughter in years to come.
Your daughter will cherish her gift from you forever too.
@@D-C. thank you so much , it means a lot to hear it from another father. Great story….🍻
That’s an awesome idea. It’s something she’ll always have and love.. My family bought an omega for me which I cherish. I’ll buy a watch for my daughter one day too.
@@aaronhewlett2067 I still have my Seamaster professional 200 pre bond that my parents bought me for my 21st birthday. Im 55 this year, and still wear it. It's always been back to omega for battery replacement, and comes back immaculate. I love it dearly, and it will be passed down when I've gone.
One thing to note, there isn’t a 60 min marker on the top of the rotating bezel. Daniel Craig’s version has the triangle marker differentiating it from the 60th anniversary Bond watch.
I'm begging omega to please make this watch slimmer so it doesnt feel like a stack of roman coins
Yes, definitely, slimmer is so much better and elegant ☝🏽 The NTTD is not too bad in this respect 🤗😉🍾🥂
Just get a different omega model if you want a thin watch, no?
@@Meow-ee9zo no
Whats wrong with a stack of roman coins?
EXACTLY. I don't care about the diameter as long as it's no bigger than 42mm. Make the thickness 12.5mm and a 48 and less lug to lug and we're talking. Get rid of the gimmicky open caseback if you need to in order to make it slimmer. That is much more important for day to day wear and comfort over the occasional 5 second, "oh that's a cool looking movement. OK, back on the wrist!"
MAN ALIVE!!!! If this is all true, if it’s 39-40mm with a steel case back then I will be a very very happy man! Have Omega really listened!? If so take my money now. This is extremely exciting! I really hope it comes with a variant of the OG bracelet and not just on the mesh.
I contacted my Omega AD the day this dropped! One theory I heard that makes sense is that this will be released for the 60th Anniversary of Goldfinger in December.
Truly hoping it’s not a James Bond thing. No gimmicks, just a regular production smp would be nice
I doubt it because Sean Connery prominently wore a Rolex Submariner in Goldfinger. A tie-in with Goldfinger would be a big mistake.
@@angikarchmer5633 We shall see, what about the Seamaster released last year for the James Bond 60th Anniversary.
@@watchnut Because that was just the 60th anniversary. Not a specific film. It really wouldn't make much sense since Connery wore the Rolex Submariner in Goldfinger and since the Submariner has one of the most Legendary wrist shots. That really show cases the Rolex it REALLY wouldn't make much sense. When watch fans think Goldfinger. They automatically think of the Rolex Submariner 6538
@@watchnut Maybe it will come in 2025 to mark 30 years of Goldeneye, where Bond first wears an Omega would make more sense to me.
I really welcome a mid-sized Omega Seamaster Heritage Co-Axial!
Love your videos ❤
Appreciate it man, thank you! Had a 24hr turnover for this one so the quality isn’t tops but hey! Just imagine they manage to pull it off and deliver a real specialty 🔥
@@ID-Guy Still excellent my man! Yeah, something timeless from their back catalogue would be most excellent 👌
Thinner SMP with a 40mm diameter? I’m sold!
And the more I think about it after my 24hr mad rush to get this together? The more unlikely it sounds to me 😂 Would be fantastic though…
Omega: all our customers want a smaller more wearable size? These wearable sizes that are making our competitors all the money?
Omega: Here’s a limited edition instead.👍
Thinner and smaller? Dude, just get a dress watch.
@@ID-Guy I have the feeling that this particular model looks small on the actor's wrist. I have the feeling Omega will stay 42ish or at least this is my hope.
It's a 39mm folks. Watch this space
Also:
“Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.”
Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
That’s clear 👏🏽🤗
Definitely 42mm. The question is whether this is a new core model or a special edition. If they do a core model in black and blue (non-bond) I’ll buy both… on the grey market after the price drops 20% 😏
the reintroduction of the 2254 wouldn't be a bad idea.
Imagine? The one model line the enthusiasts are begging for 🔥
Yes, definitely 👍🏽 Spot on mate 👏🏽🍾🥂🤗
Yes, 2254.50 reissue with the original slim case and a new micro adjust clasp. Yes please, Omega!
40mm, thinner and new clasp. Superb!
Looks fantastic. 40mm would be amazing. Mesh bracelet look is growing on me too.
I think a smaller and thinner option is a smart move in this “case”. 👍🏻
This will sell by the bucket load. Very desirable. Great video.
Thx for the video. Clean design and no date will certainly appeal to many. But that He escape valve and the bracelet…
Full agreement on all points, IDG and yes, the "staged exposure" via Daniel Craig's wrist is smart marketing (and Mr Craig knows it's good for his personal brand, too). One small point and forgive me for being grammarnazi: It's champing at the bit, not chomping.
I learned something new from this. Thank you.
Excellent pedantry, but is chomping now acceptable (if not original) or do I have another think coming 😉
@@localheroEd You want me to tow the line with modern versions? 😃
@@markikn3183 Never! The original would be lost so we must (as the vicar says) keep up a stiff end, but we might have to accept the modern way.
39-40mm I would definitely purchase
39-40mm and monotone would be heaven! I was about to finally pull the trigger on that Moonwatch - maybe I should hold on a few more weeks?? Great vid as always my friend - your content is now an integral eagerly-awaited part of my Saturday afternoons! 🔥🔥🔥
I am very interested, this could be my first Omega.
Likely a Pip not “60” on the bezel, at least by the photos!
To answer your question, “yes” this is good!
Go to the store because if the yellow jacket but leave with the black one. 😊
Managed to get the Tudor Monochrome on the 5 link bracelet this week 😊😊
For me personally it's a watch that is almost perfect in every way for a 7.5 wrist.
Great content as always , we'll now have to wait for the release date & stock availability.
I am confused. You are also looking to buy the Omega?
@@rickjason215 Am I , Really , Said Who ?
NOT ME !
But just for your information I do like to broaden my horizons by NOT putting all my eggs into a single basket with tunnel vision !
Have yourself wonderful rest of the day kind sir 👍👏👍👏
I’m happy with my white SMP300, but get the appeal of this smaller version. It seems to be what enthusiasts have been clamoring about for years.
Judging by the size of it on the picture at 5:14, it definitely won't be 40mm. Daniel Craig has thick wrists too so he even made the speedy look small previously.
I love what Omega has been doing with their releases
I love this new SMP. I really hope they go this direction for the standard SMP. Even better if it has a date.
This watch on the Milanese is fire. Guaranteed it would also be as beautiful on some of the Omega NATOs or their rubber straps.
Great video and discussion as always, ID_Guy! Now let’s hope they don’t do something disappointing with the price!
Omega should hire you immediately.
no date is perfection to me
Glad the new one will have waves, since I have the non-wave black dial SMPc. I like that it's the only SMP300 of the lineup without waves. It also wears thinner than the current version.
One detail I'm really digging about these new machines, the wave patterning looks fantastic! Also enjoy the clean Black Ceramic machine - been tempted to pick up one many, many times ;)
I would love to own this watch! I have the current model and miss the slimnesses of the 2531.80 Bond Seamaster. Great video. Daniel is looking a little old, love his style!
It always amazes me how much beauty and precision are added to the parts of amzwatch's watch 99% of people will never see.
A 40 mm monochrome SM is gonna be a killer watch. Seems aimed right at the BB monochrome.
Your theory about market demand resetting is interesting. Are you saying that Omega (and perhaps Tutor) are paying more attention to what the “watch community” wants because the general public isn’t buying as much? I suppose that means us watch nerds are a larger portion of the market. Do you think they are trying to cater to us a bit more?
Nice take on what this one may be, cheers.
Thank you for making high quality videos!Love MaMaCoo ’s watches
39 or 40mm, thinner than 11mm, omega gonna be winner in diver watch market.
Love your channel with so many stellar watches! For me the MAMACOO’ watch is my favorite. Keep the videos coming. Thanks.
I can't believe that watch went to the moon!!!
me neither
Yes yes yes I’ll take one but your renders should have triangle and lume pip at 12 instead of the 60 like the anniversary watch…always enjoy your video drops on a Saturday morning. Enjoy the weekend all!
Customer: we want tapered bracelet
Omega: you got it, here's 50 shades of blue
Customer: we want thinner case
Omega: you got it, here's the shade of the Mai Tai Hemmingway drank one time in the Carribbean
Customer: wa want a better bezel
Omega: you got it, here's a non-stick frying pan
Well hey, at least they listen 🤣🥃
Thank you for making high quality videos!Love MAMACOO ’s watches
Been watching your videos for a while now and was inspired to start a collection. Started with the amzwatch, its specs for price and clean looks, now am looking for a dress watch to add.
3 opinions:
1) If not the earned press of pseudo-leaks, what else is a brand ambassador for? How many DeVilles has George Clooney sold via Omega paid press?
2) Returning to monochromatic palettes suggests the Special Edition fever is breaking at Bienne.
3) slimming/sizing down of pieces suggests Omega has recouped enough costs &or learned enough additional engineering to not have to overbuild the latest versions of the coaxial calibers.
I bought a watch from amzwatch lightly used for my last milestone birthday. Don't wear it as much as it deserves, but not afraid to, either. It's stunning . Good taste, Sir.
Ever since the co-axial movement was first introduced, the SMP has been a lot thicker. For that reason alone, I prefer the 90s/00s SMPs. I really do hope that they work some magic to make it thinner. Thanks for the video!
Not really. The previous eta version had the coaxial escapement and was quite a bit thinner and 41mm
it doesn't make sense there isn't a 38-39mm SMP when speedy, AQ, PO all have a smaller variant
I think you gotta check at the time 5:49, you can see that it still has the lollipop seconds hand. Increase magnification starting 2.7 to 7.4 and you can see it clearly. I was planning on pulling the trigger on an old new stock SMP 41 black dial(first ceramic bezel) as I find them to have a good balance between sport and dress watch, but after hearing this I think I might just wait a little more. Awesome video once again and thanks for the info
I think he means it's not the same lollipop seconds hand as the Bond 60th which has the circle at the tip of the seconds hand. ✌🏼
I am a recent 2541.80 (GoldenEye quartz model) owner, and love it. I did replace the clasp and clasp end links with modern Seamaster clasp to allow micro adjust. Perfect watch for all occasions.
I have a strong feeling this new Seamaster will feature:
- 41mm case diameter
- 12-13mm thickness
- Completely ditch the outdated 90’s bracelet for the mesh and add micro adjust clasp to the mesh design
- closed case back with hypocampus engraving to reduce thickness
- No date
- possibly a movement that allows for a quick-hour adjust like the 2541.80 and current Seamaster 300 (heritage)
- reduce the colors available to limit production costs
I think these changes would be welcomed and very smart for Omega. This needs to be a good middle ground between the Tudor Black Bay 41 and the Rolex Submariner. That’s its place! The size change and micro-adjust clasp would be no-brainers.
The current Nekton Edition is also without a date, lacks the glossy dial, has a solid case back and is a bit thinner than the date model, but it is still 42 mm and has a grade 5 titanium bezel which makes it lighter. It has received very little coverage because most of these watch sites cover what everyone else is covering... sort of like ambulance chasers.
40mm - Yes! 90s Bond wave pattern - Yes! Back to basics in terms of color and details - Yes! Matte bezel insert if that's the the case - Hell yes! BUT 19mm lug width - Not so much. Would love the tread style bracelet in 20mm with a taper though. That would make this new iteration my ideal SMP.
Bingo, everything sounds great except for 19mm lug width. Please be 20mm
I have a decent sized wrist, and owned the current gen SMP300M for about a year before flipping it. It fit my wrist fine but I always had a slight suspicion that the dimensions being at 40 mm or so would tighten up the use of space on the dial a bit better. I think it would be great. After all, for the bigger dive watch there has always been the Planet Ocean, another excellent piece due for a refresh.
Hi. Hope you don’t mind me asking… Which model did you have and what was the final sale price? I’m considering the 60th one myself but if this drops and it’s smaller and thinner, I would probably trade up
42 is the perfect size for a man’s dive watch. 39 and below are too small for a diver on a man’s wrist
The Submariner was 37mm originally, so you’re wrong.
I like that titanium AT it reminds me of some of omegas watches from the 70s
Omega definitely needs to notch down the diameter a little more to the sweet spot of 38~40 mm. Thanks for another beautiful video full of appetizing visuals.
I love it, I think I'd be very tempted when this gets released.
I'm more interested in a Planet Ocean update
Would be great seeing them tweak the PO line (seems like the natural progression looking at the Aqua Terra receiving a facelift) 🥃
They've recently released 3 in muted colours with matt dials - grey, sand and green.
@@shaunpatrick8345That’s not an update
Hopefully they may lose the date on the PO but I fear it will be worse apart from that 😢
PO proportions dropped to 42mm and 14.x mm thick... Seller
that was incredible. what a beautiful watch and what great work you did on it!MAMACOO
My favorite 2024 is the Prospex Limited Edition 1965 Recreation European Exclusive in Gradation Island Blue. The dial is stunning and the contrast when on a white strap is to die for. I will get my hands on one from amzwatch
I owned a mid size Bond Omega Seamaster with blue wave dial in the 90s and eventually sold it because I thought it was too small in comparison to everyone else at that time. If I had only hung onto that watch. Today it would be a classic and right in line with the trend to smaller timepieces.
Why do as everyone else ?! 😳🤔🧐
It seems like no matter what they throw at us a majority of us enthusiasts are still going to justify the purchase of just about any minute changes we are still going to jump directly on the Omega train because no matter what if you enjoy the ride you're going to go for a spin no matter the length of the ride Thanks as always for sharing another professional view into watches my friend Be well 👍
To answer your question at the end, yes. Going back or to less like the 90s is the right call for this model at this time. Omega has gone too far "up" in the current model lineup. Pulling it back in size, date, and a new movement, the price would/will be "addition by subtraction". I am still waiting for them to remove the He valve. A white dail without the valve is a wish of mine for the Seamaster.
The helium escape valve is part of the Seamaster Professional’s DNA and likewise for the scalloped bezel. I don’t really understand why people are so obsessed with deleting the very DNA of the Seamaster Professional when are so many other watches from Omega and others to look from 😳🤔🧐🤯
Omega needs to give the SMP300 the same bracelet treatment as they did the Speedy and Aqua Terra.
42mm is fine, thickness is fine (sports watches aren't dress watches stop forcing them under a cuff, this is like taking an athlete and forcing them to write a 10 page essay), peanut butter cup is fine.
Hum… the 1990 Seamaster were pure elegance because these were slimmer. The NTTD is slimmer and has some of that elegance too, shaving 1mm from it would make it even more elegant. It must not be ultra thin though, just ultra light ☝🏽
Finally. Someone statement what a lot of us think. Want smaller, buy the Aqua Terra!!!!
As always another great video.
Yes I do feel this is the direction the 300 pro should be leaning towards. If it is so, it actually puts this watch in the mix for me.
As for the releases of new watches, the first time was fun, now it seems very staged. It's not bad though.
I haven't purchased a watch lately, so I can not confirm the decline in sales, but when Omega removes the "wort" on the 300, that will be a sign.
Great video as always! If this is 40mm I’m in. This would also look dead sexy in the blue of the Brosnan bond watches (and the Casino Royale SMP)…
Once they reduce the size of that ridiculous helium valve, I would buy several! Great video, thanks!
If that is the finished product. Man it looks great
Less is more is starting to resonate in Bienne.
Next: Planet Ocean goes on a diet and receives some refinement. A “heritage” version that popular inspiration the 42mm LMPO!
I saw this video 2 months ago.
Yet I am back because I just had to think about it again. I really love the idea of a little m smaller SMP.
My 39 Black Bay Pro works perfect in size and a black Seamaster on Milenese could really be a complete banger for me.
Let‘s hope omega goes on with that. The new FOIS is having the same direction. So there is hope.
Take my money omega.
It is 42mm.... I don'y know what people think, but Craig wrist is huge.
You're Marlon Brando Rolex video is one of the greatest ones ever.
I really like that rendition. I am an omega fan and to me it looks better than a submariner. Omega is doing what nike does with new sneakers and i guess that works. Rolex is so extremely marketed , everywhere you see endorsements at events. People dont even realize the strength of the marketing , i pick omega.
And Omega's marketing is straight up embarrassing. They come off as more of a fashion brand now. Have you seen Omega's IG page? AWFUL. The Rolex is just marketing excuse always cracks me up. Maybe if Rolex had a bad product the marketing comment would have some truth to it but they don't. Rolex makes a great watch. The Swatch group has ruined Omega and to make matters worse Omega use alot parts made in China. That's right the lame Swatch group has been outsourcing from China for years. Unlike Rolex that's 100p Swiss made.
I always thought the mid size seamaster was 36mm? I may be the only one but that’s the size I’d love to see return. Unfortunately, I know that will never happen due to the “36mm us too small for a man’s watch” crowd that lead omega down the 42mm road. In an ideal world they would release the new seamaster in both 36mm and 40mm like Rolex with the explorer and then you have everyone covered no matter what size wrist… but I know we don’t live in one :D
Watch Yourself Jorge dropped a good video on this
Yes he did 😎👉
Yes, great direction in my view. But if I do lay down the monies it would be for a PO in this vein.
Still wearing my favorite Omega 2254.5 from 1999 as I watch this video!
Let's go Omega :) Finally, make thinner, smaller watches...and fix the damn bracelet like the new AT!!
If Omega just have made a version without that helium escape valve with these specs, I would buy one blindly 😅
Thanks brother for the great video.
Y’know, I’ve put together countless renders without that He crown and it loses “something” - it ends up looking more and more like a Tag Aquaracer very quickly 🤣 But if they could reduce the growth… with some kind of cream or something? Absolutely hahaha! Much love brother, I hope you have a great weekend!
I like a thicker heavier watch. It makes it feel like I got something well made for the money. Otherwise it feels cheap.
Love my super clones so good my watch dealer bought one
I like Omega's occasional forays into playfulness, I actually bought the Speedy Tuesday Ultraman and love it but agree, recently it's been quite jazz handsy with the various mood swings on classic pieces. I do love this Black SMP though I feel maybe the No Time to Die version is a little more for me.
Looks great. I’m so happy if Omega are cutting down on the eye candy in their watches. If a return to the original size, and simplicity is a new trend it’s a great thing - hoping Rolex will do the same with their Submariner one day.
My guess is it's based on the case of the Danish frogmen's special edition, so a standard SMP300 but in a no date configuration. I think it's highly unlikely that it's a thinner case, but we shall see. I would have preferred a flat black matte dial, but perhaps that's a little too close to the Ti Yacht-Master for their liking. As for the 165.024, I hope you're right, maybe it'll be the big release for next year? Surely it's time!
Fascinating seeing those “secret service” no date variants floating around the internet. If anything, they might give it a solid caseback to reduce it by 0.075mm’s 😉
@@ID-Guy I saw one come up on ebay last summer, I tried to buy it but was driving and missed the final bid, it sold if memory serves for a little over £2,800. Really regret not buying it now.
I think it's just a black version of the "no time to die".
I hope it has the triangle lume pip instead of the 60.
Great video - thank you
It’s the Omega Unit Watch in a “public” fashion with gloss details instead of flat black… Not a big surprise it came, after all the positive feedback the Unit Watch received early in the year when it was worn in a major public setting. Surprised you didn’t made this connection.
Will keep mu vintage seemaster 300m for now !!
I've recently began my obsession as a watch collector. And i must say- out of all the luxury brands I've been researching, for me the MaMaCoo 's watches are the most intriguing.
Yes please on the smaller size. Also, better looking bracelets and no helium realese crown.
I own the current model and have always felt like it would look amazing without the date. If this is real, I'm definitely buying this one. Flatten the original bracelet a bit, give it a taper and I think we'll finally have the perfect watch!
Bezel needs to be bi-directional for Countdown and uni-directional for elapsed timing. Grippy for gloved or sweaty hands.
20mm for strap (SM300 is 21mm, hard to find straps)
40mm? Perfect. But must also be slimmer, more like 12mm, for the proportions to work as well as, say, a BB58.
Hell yeah! 🖤🖤🖤
The 42mm dia is ok, it is after all a diver, but shaving several mms of thickness off would be greatly appreciated. That would > increase the comfort level and also < the top heaviness.
If this ends up being 40mm and about 47-48mm lug to lug, I’m in! The mesh bracelet is excellent and if it ends up in two or three different colours, even better!
I think it's a bit too speculative on the size change. I expect it will still be the same case as before. If they'd redesigned the case I think we'd see a lot more fanfare around it.
Please, let there be a seaweed version.
Their choice of green (same as the SeaQ) is just sublime 🔥 Would love to see that Seaweed colourway with their other pieces too!
I like the idea of a 40mm SMP though I'm still not wild about the wave dial, it has always looked a bit plastic and low end to me. I'm also a complete sucker for a lollipop second hand (no pun intended). So I'm on the fence on this one, definitely leaning toward the interested side for sure. I did just pick up my titanium Worldtimer yesterday and I'm in love, even at the larger size it is a beautiful watch.
I'm totally on board if they fix that lollipop second hand, which it appears they have. I was thinking the gloss black aquaterra might need to find its way onto my wrist, but maybe now I should wait and see what the specs on this are.