When I look around I see old Mazda cars from 1990 to 2000 like the 323 and 626 even rx7 and b2500 but I don't see any old kia .the Elantra, sephia,avella and Spectra are all covered down in someone garage,but this is just my country not sure about others places
I drove an Optima and a Mazda 6 when shopping for my daily driver. The real difference between them is the driving dynamics. The Kia is numb and dull with a droning exhaust note. You can feel the difference before you exit the dealer lot with the Mazda 6. The Optima has a larger interior volume, but the materials and ergonomics are WAY behind the 6's interior.
I think it all depends on what you want in a car. I'm a mom & want the extra room, better range & less road noise, I'm sure a single person would want the "Fun to drive" option though.
I know I'm late but as someone who test drove the Mazda from this year and owns a 2016 optima, materials in the mazda are slightly better but, not much better. Now, the 2018 Mazda 6 is where it's at. That's whe model year where we saw the extensive refresh.
What's the point? Specs tell me nothing about how comfortable and quiet the car is. How are the seats? How is the dash, instruments, and multimedia? I chose the Kia hands down. For 22K, I got a LOT of upscale options (leather, push button start, remote start, automatic trunk, auto retracting mirrors, heated steering wheel and seats, etc etc.) It's quiet, comfortable, and not loud and buzzy like the 6. The 6 does drive sportier, but hey, these are mom cars and my wife couldn't care less.
Thank you for this review. I am a mom looking at these 2 cars. After driving a minivan the "fun to drive' option is a bit tempting, but I commute pretty far so noise & comfort and gas mileage are all more important than "fun to drive". Which trim option did you choose?
Hi Dave, I enjoy these videos a lot. One thing I'd suggest is to combine fuel tank & range into one line as well as width/length in order to give yourself more space. Will make it easier to read I think and these pairings go together naturally. Keep up the great work!
Kia - Quieter. Mazda 6 - Louder. Kia - No.2 in 2017 Consumer Reports Reliability(up from No. 3 previous year). NUMBER 1 in J.D. Power's. Mazda - No. 12 in CR (down from No. 6 previous year). Kia - Ventilated seats possible. Mazda - Nope, can't do it. We don't know how to put a duct in and some holes in the seat leather. Kia - Balanced dynamics now - will improve soon with Albert Biermann from BMW M division in coming years to lead N divison for Hyundai and GT division for Kia. Kia says - Our customers wanted, so, we found the best man for performance that we could!!! If you want it ASAP, buy the soon-to-be Stinger base model instead - comparable to Mazda 6 prices and blows the doors off the Mazda 6. Mazda - How do we make it thinner and lighter? And use less materials??? --- BUT let's get real people -PERFORMANCE WISE-THESE ARE FAMILY SEDANS!!! Kia - Warranty - YES. Mazda - let's keep minimal warranty as long as possible like all the other manufacturers even though we seem to be on the verge of bankruptcy every year. Kia - Heads up display - let's put the best most crisp in that we can find. Mazda - Eh, just stick a piece of plastic right about there. Kia - Dealerships everywhere. Mazda - Let's stay small and not take risks. Kia - Engines let's give our customers a choice. And try new technologies like GDI for fuel efficiency. 245hp sounds good. Mazda - Eh, we'll turbo it up a bit and change it up only when everyone complains so much we can't stand it anymore. Ehhh, cut that piece off, to make it lighter, CLUNK! That'll make it faster. Let's give it a marketing term - Skyactiv!!! Kia - Less rust issues. Mazda - Known rust buckets. Kia - Sales - 120,000-150,000 Kia Optimas sold per year in USA. Mazda - 40,000~50,000 Mazda 6's sold per year in USA. And last year one of the poorest selling family sedans. Consistently the car every youtube car reviewer says "Why doesn't this car sell well?" Yeah - well - duh. Kia - Let's put in as much options as we can per every dollar to beat our competition. Mazda - We'll put in what we have to, to keep up with our competition. Kia - Along with Hyundai the 3rd largest Car manufacturer from near nothing in a couple decades, and growing. Mazda - We may go bankrupt tomorrow. Quick, we sold only like a 1000 Mazda 6's last month in USA, we gotta stick in a turbo engine for next year or we will lose to Honda Accord and Camry and Optima and Sonata when all of them will have 250HP engines!!!! Kia - let's try to beat the industry leaders, and beat our past perception of unreliability; Let's beat NOT ONLY Honda and Toyota, but BMW and Audi and MB in performance and luxury too. If we fail, we will still have learned to make better cars next time!!! Mazda - Eh, let's keep marketing via our lying dealers that we have good customer retention when we actually have some of the lowest customer retention in the industry. (Yeah, they do. Look it up.) Let's use fancy words like Skyactiv that none of our dealers know how to explain what it is... and no one in our company can explain either for that matter... Don't get me wrong - I REALLY want Mazda to do well, but when they didn't make a Speed3, or a Speed6 as their customers wanted because they are now "too grown up" a brand and thinks those cars are too immature, and keep chasing the stupid rotary engine they can't create and not listening to their customer base... got rid of their brand names for alpha numerical names when customers said not to... Spent nothing on increasing their dealerships... Acts like a turtle in addressing NVH and Rust problems which are the number one and two complaints Mazda owners have with the vehicles while Kia bends backwards to improve every year in every way they know how???? No contest which car company I want to support... Stop the badge snobbery, people. Look at facts.
@@MegaTechpc that when they still had radio knobs and pre-set buttons for the stations without having to stop the car and change the channel? And still had a cd player also
@@MegaTechpc I heard the new ones.....2017 and newer don't have cd players and you can't change the radio while the car is moving.....you have to stop and fiddle with the display just to change the stations which is dumb.
Build quality on the Mazda is arguably best in class. Especially the interior. More options may impress the typical American car (GM, Ford) buyer, but mechanical reliability comes from the opposite philosophy... KISS. Add to that, Mazda gives me a manual on ALL trim levels, not just base. If you enjoy driving, a manual trans is essential. Throw a turbo on that 2.5 (already on the CX-9 I think) for the 6 and the KIA is not only outrun, but outclassed. I like the KIA, but the Mazda is better built car. Numbers don't tell a story, they skew to a conclusion.
noorametal this video saves you the time of looking for the specs. I tried to explain that during the intro. I give my options in my individual reviews, thank you.
The warranty in Canada on the Mazda (3 year full comp unlimited mileage// 5 year power train unlimited mileage warranty) destroys KIA and the KIA will spend time in the shop. BTW the Mazda6 auto is a 6 speed dual clutch.
That was a great video, I am going back and forth between the 2017 jetta 1.8t and the 2017 honda civic 1.5t I would love it if you did a WTB on these vehicles
Christopher Beckerle I'm speaking to things like interior build quality, bodyline gap, and mechanical reliability. Again I love Kia but in my opinion (and most major reviewers) the Mazda wins.
Clint Cohen Very good point but I do notice this optima is a tweaked 2011. So it's reliable and a staple and well known whereas the Mazda is a redesign. Of course the Kia should win since its been around in this skin longer but I stand by Mazda and the 6 as the better car since Kia is stagnant in design and layout.
Clint Cohen I had a 2010 mazda3 for 6 years and have a 2011 Mazda CX-9 currently. no reliability issues at all and especially no electronic issues. I question your bias towards Kia as being superior. shall we talk about Kia's history with wheel bearings, brakes with rotors needing turned at just 10k miles or their own light bulbs needing replaced prematurely? and we didn't even talk about direct injection engines and the extra maintenance they need. your call. I will set both are beautifully designed and would not mind owning either.
Optima is in its 4th generation, it was redesigned for 2016, so it's not the 2011 cycle (Granted some changes are subtle, but it wasn't mid-cycle refresh, but a full redesign). In terms of reliability, I've always read better things about the kia, which also has the better warranty in case there are problems. I've never owned either, but both are on my short list to test drive when I'm looking for a new car next year. I will say I wish the mazda had a higher engine option (Particularly when you spring for higher trims), it seems under-powered on paper but I'll reserve judgment until I've driven it.
Dave, I love your videos man! especially these breakdowns, but I really would love to see what the cost per 25 miles would be. MPG is good but it all comes down to how much it would cost to drive X amount of miles.
Agreed a family of 4 will most often drive much differently than a 16 year old male who just saw the latest fast and the furious movie. They both differ greatly in driving style from grandma driving to church Sunday morning as well.
Nice comparison. Should also include phone plug-in compatibility. While KIA supports both Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, last time I read Mazda infotainment lacked those.
U clearly failed basic 3rd grade math. U have length and width and then quoted the interior volume... even worse u acted surprised when the Kia had more volume... dah it is a taller car or has thinner components on the inside. Come on, step it up!
Really enjoyed this video! As i was comparing these two cars. But also would like to ask if you could do a video comparing the 2017 Kia Optima and Hyndai Sonata. ???? That would be a big help!!!
Basically similar cars as built on the same platform. The optima is more comfortable though and sportier than the Hyundai especially in turbo guise but i would hold off until the Kia Stinger arrives as if nothing else the price of the Optima will plummet. They arrive in September in Australia not sure about USA release date though
DEVILTAZ35 why would the optima drop in price when the stinger comes out? Aren't they two different models? If so I'm actually curious as I was going to purchase an optima soon but if you're saying it'll go down might as well wait for a few months. I'm in Canada though so I don't know if that will make a difference.
MackyG they are different models. I have a 2018 Kia Optima SX with the tech package. The Stinger is more of a sports sedan as it is rear wheel drive. The Optima is front wheel drive.
Hi Dave, I would love to see a expert review by you on the new 2017 Ford Fusion (preferably the Titanium trim) and then a compare contrast with the Fusion and the Optima. Thanks for all your video reviews!
Mr Everyman Driver great video if is possible for you I like to see the different between the Tacoma and the Canyon 2016 o 2017 thanks and keep going we the great jop
CVT not for me, Camry is old under it's skin and until the launch of the Type-R Honda hasn't had anything to write home about, my 2003 RSX type S will destroy everything Honda has made until just now (type-r) Just saying
Suggestion, I was thinking if you could do a table and put the info in there like you do, but this method is good as well. Sentra vs corolla ? what are the true competitor of the mazda 5 ? what is the best used car fuel effiecient to buy in 2017 under $10,000. Thank you, danke schon, Merci :)
lol, I kind of now, but people still use it , and since it is in the middle of van and SUV, it is kind of good... except for the mpg.... my dream car could be a venza or mazda 5 car with low MSRp and very good combine MPG ( 30 mpg and more ). do you know any option like that ?
I would like to see a comparison of build quality and materials, Standard features and cost of ownership . By the below comments it seems the Mazda would win hands down with the 3 model's it offers compared to KIA's fleet of optional trim offerings.
I own a 2011 Kia Optima and its done me so well...but ive been curious on this Mazda6 for my next car...still debating between the Mazda6 and the 2016 Kia Optima ..
I see ... I was asking because sometimes, those bumps , can really make you wonder... lol I wish they was a crosstrek ( not hybrid tho) that had a mpg ( 30 mpg + ) and good msrp... Thanks for answering tho ( I am so happy you have answered me on here !!!! that make my day :) Yeah!!!!!!! ) :) ( keep it up, we love your video !!! can you also think about advice used car under $10,000 ( sedans (small, midsize), crossover ) thank you ( if possible tho, I don't want to bother , anyone you do will be fine anyway !!! I talk to much sorry, bye :)
There would be no saying about these particular vehicles as they are new. However I think your best bet would be KBB or NADA and making sure you put in similar mileage and years for each car. That may give you a rough estimate for how well they hold their value.
I'm shopping these used and the Mazda is more expensive by about 2k depending on options. I'm look at cars 2-4 years old with 25k-75k and the Optima is around 13k vs Mazda 6 15k but many of the Kia are the LX. Not sure why that is, maybe there are less Mazdas. Many more Mazdas show up on carfax with accidents too. I think the "fun to drive' option attracts less safety conscious drivers.
mazda 6 with it skyactiv tech and the kia 2.0 turbu if u put them on race for several kilo meters together i think mazda6 will win the race because it's lighter than the kia .
Everyman Driver thanks for replying but would you consider the rogue more of an off-road SUV because of the 4 wheel drive in it it's more on the traditional side than a crv or RAV4, it's this why you choose to put it against the Cherokee?
A shame you fellas don't use kilowatts, newton meters, litres/100kms, litres to measure boot capacity......having said that, I like your presentations.
This comparison showed the diff on paper or on the whiteboard..where it didn’t show the diff (couldn’t as it is subjective) is on the driving dynamics! Kia won it on paper but Mazda won it on actual driving dynamics! Unfortunately you can’t show dynamics on paper...or board for that matter!
Stupid comments! Who cares about range?! In 20 years of buying cars I have never purchased a car on range. Mpg maters but the Kia has to use a turbo to get 2 more mpg. That turbo will be 3k to replace at 100k miles...
Who would buy a 2017 Optima when the Kia Stinger is soon to release though? The Optima is a far better car. It has even been put against the Mercedes C class but it is more expensive than the Mazda.
DEVILTAZ35 good question, someone who's in college, and needs just the basic transportation, someone who doesn't want to spend a lot on insurance or gas and mainly want the dependability that Toyota is known for.
Why a Camry though , there are far better cars . Even the Subaru Imprezza is a far better buy than the Camry. There is a new Camry coming though which is pretty much a total redesign however it actually looks worse than the current one and the sportier models have 4 tailpipes which really doesn't suit a Camry that is not really sporty at all. It does apparently however lend alot more from the lexus platform so it will be alot more comfortable and better sound proofed than the current one.
DEVILTAZ35 well, if it was me, I love the Camry, I love the Mazda 6, I love almost all of them, except the Accord, my dad has a 2013 Accord, and I hate it, it would be better if it didn't have the dual screen set up and the CVT. I'm just a Camry fan boy, but I would probably pick the new fusion over the redesigned Camry.
Fair enough , they don't sell the Fusion in Australia unless it is the same or similar to a Ford Mondeo? I love Subarus over Mazda any day anyway. The 3.6R is far better than anything Mazda produce. However i am more interested in the Twin turbo Kia Stinger which is set to really shake things up with Rear Wheel Drive, 19 inch 35 series tyres plus it includes 5 mode electronic suspension as standard. The new Hyundai version is out next year too though it could be as much as 10k more expensive than the Stinger. Unless Subaru plan on releasing a Legacý/Liberty STI turbo the Kia would be the one to get for this price range. There is an AWD Stinger in some markets but it's not offered in Australia worse luck.
Why when it's in every inferior to the Kia? Though the best Kia is still to come. The Stinger is the one to get which is streets ahead of the Mazda but even the Optima is far better built using far better grade steel than the mazda. Even the suspension is far better in the Optima. For one thing the Kia also looks stunning . The mazda has a butt ugly front end grille that ruins the whole look of the front which is otherwise nice. It looks more like something you would expect on the CX9 but not a sedan. The Kia is far better looking.
You pay slightly more for the Kia, but in the end, there's more standard features and the specs go to Kia. But I'd chose the Mazda because the windows on the Optima are very small and visibility isn't the best. The Optima gets better interior room because the floor is very low, yet the windows are still small. It's like sitting in a bucket.
When I look around I see old Mazda cars from 1990 to 2000 like the 323 and 626 even rx7 and b2500 but I don't see any old kia .the Elantra, sephia,avella and Spectra are all covered down in someone garage,but this is just my country not sure about others places
I drove an Optima and a Mazda 6 when shopping for my daily driver. The real difference between them is the driving dynamics. The Kia is numb and dull with a droning exhaust note. You can feel the difference before you exit the dealer lot with the Mazda 6. The Optima has a larger interior volume, but the materials and ergonomics are WAY behind the 6's interior.
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Your comment was better than the video lol
ToyHunter 1701, did u end up getting the 6 or the Kia?
I think it all depends on what you want in a car. I'm a mom & want the extra room, better range & less road noise, I'm sure a single person would want the "Fun to drive" option though.
I know I'm late but as someone who test drove the Mazda from this year and owns a 2016 optima, materials in the mazda are slightly better but, not much better. Now, the 2018 Mazda 6 is where it's at. That's whe model year where we saw the extensive refresh.
For a car novice like me, I am very impressed with your detailed videos! This was a great comparison and review
What's the point? Specs tell me nothing about how comfortable and quiet the car is. How are the seats? How is the dash, instruments, and multimedia? I chose the Kia hands down. For 22K, I got a LOT of upscale options (leather, push button start, remote start, automatic trunk, auto retracting mirrors, heated steering wheel and seats, etc etc.) It's quiet, comfortable, and not loud and buzzy like the 6. The 6 does drive sportier, but hey, these are mom cars and my wife couldn't care less.
How is your car doing?
@@ItsLuwee Doing just great!
Thank you for this review. I am a mom looking at these 2 cars. After driving a minivan the "fun to drive' option is a bit tempting, but I commute pretty far so noise & comfort and gas mileage are all more important than "fun to drive". Which trim option did you choose?
Hi Dave, I enjoy these videos a lot. One thing I'd suggest is to combine fuel tank & range into one line as well as width/length in order to give yourself more space. Will make it easier to read I think and these pairings go together naturally. Keep up the great work!
Great idea!
Excellent - I can do that :-)
DAVE, thanks for these comparison videos which are VERY helpful!
Kia - Quieter. Mazda 6 - Louder.
Kia - No.2 in 2017 Consumer Reports Reliability(up from No. 3 previous year). NUMBER 1 in J.D. Power's. Mazda - No. 12 in CR (down from No. 6 previous year).
Kia - Ventilated seats possible. Mazda - Nope, can't do it. We don't know how to put a duct in and some holes in the seat leather.
Kia - Balanced dynamics now - will improve soon with Albert Biermann from BMW M division in coming years to lead N divison for Hyundai and GT division for Kia. Kia says - Our customers wanted, so, we found the best man for performance that we could!!! If you want it ASAP, buy the soon-to-be Stinger base model instead - comparable to Mazda 6 prices and blows the doors off the Mazda 6. Mazda - How do we make it thinner and lighter? And use less materials??? --- BUT let's get real people -PERFORMANCE WISE-THESE ARE FAMILY SEDANS!!!
Kia - Warranty - YES. Mazda - let's keep minimal warranty as long as possible like all the other manufacturers even though we seem to be on the verge of bankruptcy every year.
Kia - Heads up display - let's put the best most crisp in that we can find. Mazda - Eh, just stick a piece of plastic right about there.
Kia - Dealerships everywhere. Mazda - Let's stay small and not take risks.
Kia - Engines let's give our customers a choice. And try new technologies like GDI for fuel efficiency. 245hp sounds good. Mazda - Eh, we'll turbo it up a bit and change it up only when everyone complains so much we can't stand it anymore. Ehhh, cut that piece off, to make it lighter, CLUNK! That'll make it faster. Let's give it a marketing term - Skyactiv!!!
Kia - Less rust issues. Mazda - Known rust buckets.
Kia - Sales - 120,000-150,000 Kia Optimas sold per year in USA. Mazda - 40,000~50,000 Mazda 6's sold per year in USA. And last year one of the poorest selling family sedans. Consistently the car every youtube car reviewer says "Why doesn't this car sell well?" Yeah - well - duh.
Kia - Let's put in as much options as we can per every dollar to beat our competition. Mazda - We'll put in what we have to, to keep up with our competition.
Kia - Along with Hyundai the 3rd largest Car manufacturer from near nothing in a couple decades, and growing. Mazda - We may go bankrupt tomorrow. Quick, we sold only like a 1000 Mazda 6's last month in USA, we gotta stick in a turbo engine for next year or we will lose to Honda Accord and Camry and Optima and Sonata when all of them will have 250HP engines!!!!
Kia - let's try to beat the industry leaders, and beat our past perception of unreliability; Let's beat NOT ONLY Honda and Toyota, but BMW and Audi and MB in performance and luxury too. If we fail, we will still have learned to make better cars next time!!!
Mazda - Eh, let's keep marketing via our lying dealers that we have good customer retention when we actually have some of the lowest customer retention in the industry. (Yeah, they do. Look it up.) Let's use fancy words like Skyactiv that none of our dealers know how to explain what it is... and no one in our company can explain either for that matter...
Don't get me wrong - I REALLY want Mazda to do well, but when they didn't make a Speed3, or a Speed6 as their customers wanted because they are now "too grown up" a brand and thinks those cars are too immature, and keep chasing the stupid rotary engine they can't create and not listening to their customer base... got rid of their brand names for alpha numerical names when customers said not to... Spent nothing on increasing their dealerships... Acts like a turtle in addressing NVH and Rust problems which are the number one and two complaints Mazda owners have with the vehicles while Kia bends backwards to improve every year in every way they know how???? No contest which car company I want to support... Stop the badge snobbery, people. Look at facts.
You've convinced to buy the Mazda. Thanks.
@@captinbeyond Me too. Got a 2016 GT last week!
@@MegaTechpc that when they still had radio knobs and pre-set buttons for the stations without having to stop the car and change the channel? And still had a cd player also
@@captinbeyond Eh, it's got a CD player and I've set up my favorite XM channels which I can switch between easily enough.
@@MegaTechpc I heard the new ones.....2017 and newer don't have cd players and you can't change the radio while the car is moving.....you have to stop and fiddle with the display just to change the stations which is dumb.
Build quality on the Mazda is arguably best in class. Especially the interior. More options may impress the typical American car (GM, Ford) buyer, but mechanical reliability comes from the opposite philosophy... KISS. Add to that, Mazda gives me a manual on ALL trim levels, not just base. If you enjoy driving, a manual trans is essential. Throw a turbo on that 2.5 (already on the CX-9 I think) for the 6 and the KIA is not only outrun, but outclassed.
I like the KIA, but the Mazda is better built car.
Numbers don't tell a story, they skew to a conclusion.
Which is better fuel wise. Im sellimg my mazda 6 2009 and buying a kia optima 2013 in aus
Good breakdown. Time for a longer whiteboard?
i love the videos . they r great . please keep them comeing .
Love the channel but i can look up the specs myself, we need ur opinion after (or during) a road test!
noorametal this video saves you the time of looking for the specs. I tried to explain that during the intro. I give my options in my individual reviews, thank you.
The warranty in Canada on the Mazda (3 year full comp unlimited mileage// 5 year power train unlimited mileage warranty) destroys KIA and the KIA will spend time in the shop. BTW the Mazda6 auto is a 6 speed dual clutch.
That was a great video, I am going back and forth between the 2017 jetta 1.8t and the 2017 honda civic 1.5t I would love it if you did a WTB on these vehicles
The new Mazdas build quality and overall bang for the buck is head and shoulders above Kia, and I love the optima hybrid.
Christopher Beckerle I'm speaking to things like interior build quality, bodyline gap, and mechanical reliability.
Again I love Kia but in my opinion (and most major reviewers) the Mazda wins.
Christopher Beckerle Which is the beauty of our world.
I can love the mazda and you can love the kia and we can still get along!
Clint Cohen Very good point but I do notice this optima is a tweaked 2011.
So it's reliable and a staple and well known whereas the Mazda is a redesign.
Of course the Kia should win since its been around in this skin longer but I stand by Mazda and the 6 as the better car since Kia is stagnant in design and layout.
Clint Cohen I had a 2010 mazda3 for 6 years and have a 2011 Mazda CX-9 currently. no reliability issues at all and especially no electronic issues. I question your bias towards Kia as being superior. shall we talk about Kia's history with wheel bearings, brakes with rotors needing turned at just 10k miles or their own light bulbs needing replaced prematurely? and we didn't even talk about direct injection engines and the extra maintenance they need. your call. I will set both are beautifully designed and would not mind owning either.
Optima is in its 4th generation, it was redesigned for 2016, so it's not the 2011 cycle (Granted some changes are subtle, but it wasn't mid-cycle refresh, but a full redesign). In terms of reliability, I've always read better things about the kia, which also has the better warranty in case there are problems. I've never owned either, but both are on my short list to test drive when I'm looking for a new car next year. I will say I wish the mazda had a higher engine option (Particularly when you spring for higher trims), it seems under-powered on paper but I'll reserve judgment until I've driven it.
Thank you for making this video. I'm deciding which used car to buy for driving Uber.
Dave, I love your videos man! especially these breakdowns, but I really would love to see what the cost per 25 miles would be. MPG is good but it all comes down to how much it would cost to drive X amount of miles.
That's super hard to say because everyone drives differently.
Agreed a family of 4 will most often drive much differently than a 16 year old male who just saw the latest fast and the furious movie. They both differ greatly in driving style from grandma driving to church Sunday morning as well.
Nice comparison. Should also include phone plug-in compatibility. While KIA supports both Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, last time I read Mazda infotainment lacked those.
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Can you make a video Kia Optima 2016 vs Hyundai Sonata 2016 . Thank you
Dave also include what safety features are offered standard and optional. Please
the Kia optima is taller?
for 2018, Mazda6 will offer 2.5 L gas engine, 2.2 L turbo diesel, 2.5 L turbo and AWD.
U clearly failed basic 3rd grade math. U have length and width and then quoted the interior volume... even worse u acted surprised when the Kia had more volume... dah it is a taller car or has thinner components on the inside. Come on, step it up!
please do video how to negotiate and get big discounts in getting a brand new car. thanks
Really enjoyed this video! As i was comparing these two cars. But also would like to ask if you could do a video comparing the 2017 Kia Optima and Hyndai Sonata. ???? That would be a big help!!!
Basically similar cars as built on the same platform. The optima is more comfortable though and sportier than the Hyundai especially in turbo guise but i would hold off until the Kia Stinger arrives as if nothing else the price of the Optima will plummet. They arrive in September in Australia not sure about USA release date though
DEVILTAZ35 why would the optima drop in price when the stinger comes out? Aren't they two different models? If so I'm actually curious as I was going to purchase an optima soon but if you're saying it'll go down might as well wait for a few months. I'm in Canada though so I don't know if that will make a difference.
MackyG they are different models. I have a 2018 Kia Optima SX with the tech package. The Stinger is more of a sports sedan as it is rear wheel drive. The Optima is front wheel drive.
Hi Dave, I would love to see a expert review by you on the new 2017 Ford Fusion (preferably the Titanium trim) and then a compare contrast with the Fusion and the Optima. Thanks for all your video reviews!
I will take the Mazda all day.
Mr Everyman Driver great video if is possible for you I like to see the different between the Tacoma and the Canyon 2016 o 2017 thanks and keep going we the great jop
I'd take either of these two over the bland Camry/Accord.
sportsMike87 when the new Gen 2018 Altima camry and accords come out that all changes.
CVT not for me, Camry is old under it's skin and until the launch of the Type-R Honda hasn't had anything to write home about, my 2003 RSX type S will destroy everything Honda has made until just now (type-r) Just saying
Suggestion, I was thinking if you could do a table and put the info in there like you do, but this method is good as well.
Sentra vs corolla ?
what are the true competitor of the mazda 5 ?
what is the best used car fuel effiecient to buy in 2017 under $10,000.
Thank you, danke schon, Merci :)
Alexandre Niamien mazda5 has been dead for years now...
lol, I kind of now, but people still use it , and since it is in the middle of van and SUV, it is kind of good... except for the mpg.... my dream car could be a venza or mazda 5 car with low MSRp and very good combine MPG ( 30 mpg and more ). do you know any option like that ?
I like the mazda 5 too, its a somewhat small 3 row vehicle. which is perfect.
Tacoma VS. Colorado
I would like to see a comparison of build quality and materials, Standard features and cost of ownership . By the below comments it seems the Mazda would win hands down with the 3 model's it offers compared to KIA's fleet of optional trim offerings.
that's the mileage I get in my Kia optima hybrid. 2012. it's worse in our brutal winters. basically runs as a regular 4 cylinder.
I own a 2011 Kia Optima and its done me so well...but ive been curious on this Mazda6 for my next car...still debating between the Mazda6 and the 2016 Kia Optima ..
Noel Lopez why... look at my Mazda 6...
Audi Q7 and BMW X5 please!
Thanks Dave
Give me the Optima please (better car in all ways) thank you. Mazda still needs to catch up with KIA. Better brand overall...
Roly Reyes You're drunk.
Hey...any chance of throwing in 0-60 times in there?😆Great job you are doing with comparos👍
True would actually like to know this about these two vehicles. Anyone have that data?
you should do what's the difference between Honda Ridgeline and Toyota Tacoma
Subaru Forester versus the Mazda CX-5?
Hi can you do Gmc Terrain vs Chevy Equinox or Ford Explorer vs Lincoln MKX
Hello hello, can you please add ground clearance, please :)
I added GC on the Crossover SUV's - not as important on sedans (generally speaking)
I see ... I was asking because sometimes, those bumps , can really make you wonder... lol
I wish they was a crosstrek ( not hybrid tho) that had a mpg ( 30 mpg + ) and good msrp...
Thanks for answering tho ( I am so happy you have answered me on here !!!! that make my day :) Yeah!!!!!!! ) :) ( keep it up, we love your video !!!
can you also think about advice used car under $10,000 ( sedans (small, midsize), crossover ) thank you ( if possible tho, I don't want to bother , anyone you do will be fine anyway !!!
I talk to much sorry, bye :)
Anybody have resale values over time?
There would be no saying about these particular vehicles as they are new. However I think your best bet would be KBB or NADA and making sure you put in similar mileage and years for each car. That may give you a rough estimate for how well they hold their value.
I'm shopping these used and the Mazda is more expensive by about 2k depending on options. I'm look at cars 2-4 years old with 25k-75k and the Optima is around 13k vs Mazda 6 15k but many of the Kia are the LX. Not sure why that is, maybe there are less Mazdas. Many more Mazdas show up on carfax with accidents too. I think the "fun to drive' option attracts less safety conscious drivers.
mazda 6 with it skyactiv tech and the kia 2.0 turbu if u put them on race for several kilo meters together i think mazda6 will win the race because it's lighter than the kia .
I know you did a RAV4 vs Cr-v but what about Honda Cr-v vs Nissan Rogue or all 3 will be great
I have a Cherokee vs. Rogue in the works.
Everyman Driver thanks for replying but would you consider the rogue more of an off-road SUV because of the 4 wheel drive in it it's more on the traditional side than a crv or RAV4, it's this why you choose to put it against the Cherokee?
Great data!
For numbers favor the Kia. However the Mazda appears to be a lot more fun to drive. Still I never driven the Optima SX so I can't say for sure.
A shame you fellas don't use kilowatts, newton meters, litres/100kms, litres to measure boot capacity......having said that, I like your presentations.
This comparison showed the diff on paper or on the whiteboard..where it didn’t show the diff (couldn’t as it is subjective) is on the driving dynamics! Kia won it on paper but Mazda won it on actual driving dynamics! Unfortunately you can’t show dynamics on paper...or board for that matter!
elantra sport vs honda civic
Definitely was paid off by Kia. This car could not dare compare to maxda6 any yr, especially 2017
Can you do a review of the 2016 Ford Edge Sport
Mazda over the Kia any day!
One is a kia and the other is a Mazda, there is that difference..
2017 Kia Sedona vs. 2017 Toyota Sienna, and look at IIHS safety ratings...👍🏻
we need camri vs mazda
accord vs mazda
can u do the volkswagen passat?
Stupid comments! Who cares about range?! In 20 years of buying cars I have never purchased a car on range. Mpg maters but the Kia has to use a turbo to get 2 more mpg. That turbo will be 3k to replace at 100k miles...
Can you do one with Hyundai
very nice
How about Mitsubishi Outlander vs Nissan Rogue? Both 3 row crossovers.
mazda cx9 > nissan rogue and mitsubishi outlander
MrSayonara88 But not in the same price category.
mazda 6 vs Chevrolet Malibu
Ali Shirazi Mazda 6 ANYDAY!!!
Ali Shirazi mazda, gm is trash these days
What a biased comparison is called? A commercial. Wasted my time here.
That's a ton for visiting my commercial.
sorento vs highlander or sorento vs cx9
Mazda 6 vs stinger from kia
I was with you until I saw that Cardinals hat...very disappointed Brewers fan!
Who would buy a 2017 Optima when the Kia Stinger is soon to release though? The Optima is a far better car. It has even been put against the Mercedes C class but it is more expensive than the Mazda.
thats like saying who would buy a honda civic when an acura tsx is coming out.
one car cost 20k one car cost 40k...
Ford F-150 vs. Mini Cooper :)
2017 Mazda 6 vs. 2017 Toyota Camry
Who would use a camry as anything but a Taxi though?
DEVILTAZ35 good question, someone who's in college, and needs just the basic transportation, someone who doesn't want to spend a lot on insurance or gas and mainly want the dependability that Toyota is known for.
Why a Camry though , there are far better cars . Even the Subaru Imprezza is a far better buy than the Camry. There is a new Camry coming though which is pretty much a total redesign however it actually looks worse than the current one and the sportier models have 4 tailpipes which really doesn't suit a Camry that is not really sporty at all.
It does apparently however lend alot more from the lexus platform so it will be alot more comfortable and better sound proofed than the current one.
DEVILTAZ35 well, if it was me, I love the Camry, I love the Mazda 6, I love almost all of them, except the Accord, my dad has a 2013 Accord, and I hate it, it would be better if it didn't have the dual screen set up and the CVT. I'm just a Camry fan boy, but I would probably pick the new fusion over the redesigned Camry.
Fair enough , they don't sell the Fusion in Australia unless it is the same or similar to a Ford Mondeo? I love Subarus over Mazda any day anyway. The 3.6R is far better than anything Mazda produce. However i am more interested in the Twin turbo Kia Stinger which is set to really shake things up with Rear Wheel Drive, 19 inch 35 series tyres plus it includes 5 mode electronic suspension as standard. The new Hyundai version is out next year too though it could be as much as 10k more expensive than the Stinger. Unless Subaru plan on releasing a Legacý/Liberty STI turbo the Kia would be the one to get for this price range. There is an AWD Stinger in some markets but it's not offered in Australia worse luck.
Genesis G90 & LS460 or XJ
in the real life actually turbo engines used too much petrol! So forever Mazda.
I've heard that before but I don't understand why. Are turbos less fuel efficient in city driving where they don't spool up or something?
I would like to know as well. I am torn between the Optima LX, LX 1.6T, and the Mazda 6 Sport.
@@Sirg17x which car did you buy?
@@ItsLuwee Currently I drive a Mazda CX-5.
6,600 dollars more for top of line Kia....I'll keep my top of the line 2016 Mazda 6 GT!
Why when it's in every inferior to the Kia? Though the best Kia is still to come. The Stinger is the one to get which is streets ahead of the Mazda but even the Optima is far better built using far better grade steel than the mazda. Even the suspension is far better in the Optima. For one thing the Kia also looks stunning . The mazda has a butt ugly front end grille that ruins the whole look of the front which is otherwise nice. It looks more like something you would expect on the CX9 but not a sedan. The Kia is far better looking.
toyota yaris hb vs honda fit
I love your hat jaja
MX-5 vs. BRZ
Your Wrong ... Because Mazda Is Better Looking ..... Looks Matter
Optima looks way better looking.
You pay slightly more for the Kia, but in the end, there's more standard features and the specs go to Kia. But I'd chose the Mazda because the windows on the Optima are very small and visibility isn't the best. The Optima gets better interior room because the floor is very low, yet the windows are still small. It's like sitting in a bucket.
Teighlour Swyftte Smaller windows make the car safer
Maybe so, but definitely important info to keep in mind if you are down to the wire on both vehicles like me.
sonata vs optima
Henry Tan Hyundai and Kia are sister companies, so they don't really compete, they are very similar cars
No way! I thought that the 6 is more fuel efficient
optima♡
Yawn. Mazda all day for my money.
You are right Mazda is a yawn. At least until they bring back the sports versions with the turbo engines.
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