Great info, just what I was wanting. I picked up a pair of the Hot Rods for my HI gain guitar needs but, after this video....looks like I'll still want a couple of 121's. Thanks for taking the time to make this 😃👍
Thanks for the suggestion! Appreciate you taking the time out to watch these. I'm gonna be honest... im kinda torn between the 121 and the 10 on the heavy guitar thing. I like the sculpted sound of the 121 but i like the openness of the 10. I can make the 10 sound like the 121, I dont think i could do the reverse. Also, I have a brand new ribbon mic from a company in Australia that I'm working on that might sound better than both (kind of middle ground between the two) and the price is right in the middle of the two as well (probably closer to the R10 Hot Rod). Should have that out in the next few weeks.
Thanks so much for the Video. both great mics by all acounts. For the want of a better word the R 10 sounds just a little harsher than the R121, just a little mid rage bump I hear but still super sounding mic. I'd be happy with either. I guess my overall feeling after listening to both is the R 121 is just a smoother mic nicer balance from High's to low's.
Love these vids! I use an R-10 for guitar cab and have used a pair for grand piano, and have been happy with the results. I'm not sure the extra $$ for the hot rod is worth it, and it seems not many people are, as SW has had the Hot Rod for the same price as the regular R 10 for a while now. Like others, I will be adding an R-121 to my locker.
The 121 is just so darn good. Havent used another mic for electric guitar in over 10 years. The r10 is a different flavor but still has that pleasing too end. The mids are the big difference between the two. Just a bit more eq needed but still sounds great.
another good one! I was very surprised at the distorted guitar; the 121 sounded like someone put a blanket over it. The 121 still gets the 'smooth' down pat, tho.. on everything (IMO). I'll have a 121 here soon, I think.. and maybe an R10 too.
Hold off on both for a bit. I have a new mic from a brand new Australian company that may be really good competition for these both. Just got the mic in yesterday and its sounding pretty awesome so far. Video coming soon!
Probably not much difference given how clean royers inline pre is. (Except youre getting more of a gain bump w the dbooster). I was able to check out a regular r-10 not too long ago.. they dont really sound any different except for a hair more top end “maybe”. I didnt go full scientific w the test. Thanks for checking out the video!
Was very interested in this video. After listening to the differences I think I'm gonna stick to my 121 although I'm quite curious what that third mic in the acoustic guitar video is...
I'd love to know how big and how live the room is where you did the acoustic guitar recordings. When you're doing these figure-of-8 mic videos do you feel the need to do anything special with placement or a barrier to deal with reflected sound on the lobe of sensitivity facing away from the source? Props on using the same player piano and electric guitar tracks on a lot of these mic locker videos--it's cool to have a resource of a bunch of different mics being used on essentially the same performance.
Thanks for watching. Yeah, the idea behind the piano and electric guitar is to have some consistency from mic to mic. (still haven't found a good distorted guitar part that i like using as an example, but we'll get there). As far as the room size goes, that room is roughly 22' x 17' but its NOT square. (kinda shaped like stair steps) Half the room is treated with absorbent material on the ceiling and one wall. One wall is stacked STONE and the facing wall across from the stone is wood (what you see in the back of the video). The room isn't "dead", but its not really echoey either. There's a lot of stuff in there (piano, drums, synths, guitars amps etc.) There are 3 different floor types as well, ceramic tile, carpet and faux wood for the drum side. I haven't seem to have an issue with reflections because of the complexity of the room, but thats by design. Occasionally, I will still use a reflexion filter if i have a particularly "verbose" singer where I'm getting a little too much room. Thanks for checking out the video! Appreciate it!
Yeah still using it. We just got our D12E back from being refurbished and tested it in comparison to the townsend. Its a great mic both to record and as a reference.
Great info, just what I was wanting. I picked up a pair of the Hot Rods for my HI gain guitar needs but, after this video....looks like I'll still want a couple of 121's. Thanks for taking the time to make this 😃👍
Thanks for the suggestion! Appreciate you taking the time out to watch these. I'm gonna be honest... im kinda torn between the 121 and the 10 on the heavy guitar thing. I like the sculpted sound of the 121 but i like the openness of the 10. I can make the 10 sound like the 121, I dont think i could do the reverse. Also, I have a brand new ribbon mic from a company in Australia that I'm working on that might sound better than both (kind of middle ground between the two) and the price is right in the middle of the two as well (probably closer to the R10 Hot Rod). Should have that out in the next few weeks.
Thanks so much for the Video. both great mics by all acounts. For the want of a better word the R 10 sounds just a little harsher than the R121, just a little mid rage bump I hear but still super sounding mic. I'd be happy with either. I guess my overall feeling after listening to both is the R 121 is just a smoother mic nicer balance from High's to low's.
Thats about the long and short of it. Very accurate assessment of the two mics. For the money the R10 is a solid piece and easily workable.
Love these vids! I use an R-10 for guitar cab and have used a pair for grand piano, and have been happy with the results. I'm not sure the extra $$ for the hot rod is worth it, and it seems not many people are, as SW has had the Hot Rod for the same price as the regular R 10 for a while now. Like others, I will be adding an R-121 to my locker.
The 121 is just so darn good. Havent used another mic for electric guitar in over 10 years. The r10 is a different flavor but still has that pleasing too end. The mids are the big difference between the two. Just a bit more eq needed but still sounds great.
another good one! I was very surprised at the distorted guitar; the 121 sounded like someone put a blanket over it. The 121 still gets the 'smooth' down pat, tho.. on everything (IMO). I'll have a 121 here soon, I think.. and maybe an R10 too.
Hold off on both for a bit. I have a new mic from a brand new Australian company that may be really good competition for these both. Just got the mic in yesterday and its sounding pretty awesome so far. Video coming soon!
Thanks
I have the original R-10 with dBooster. I wondered what the dBooster added overall as compared to the Hot Rod version and R121.
Probably not much difference given how clean royers inline pre is. (Except youre getting more of a gain bump w the dbooster). I was able to check out a regular r-10 not too long ago.. they dont really sound any different except for a hair more top end “maybe”. I didnt go full scientific w the test. Thanks for checking out the video!
Was very interested in this video. After listening to the differences I think I'm gonna stick to my 121 although I'm quite curious what that third mic in the acoustic guitar video is...
The super mystery mic from the land down under! Probably next weeks video! Thanks for checkin it out!
I'd love to know how big and how live the room is where you did the acoustic guitar recordings. When you're doing these figure-of-8 mic videos do you feel the need to do anything special with placement or a barrier to deal with reflected sound on the lobe of sensitivity facing away from the source? Props on using the same player piano and electric guitar tracks on a lot of these mic locker videos--it's cool to have a resource of a bunch of different mics being used on essentially the same performance.
Thanks for watching. Yeah, the idea behind the piano and electric guitar is to have some consistency from mic to mic. (still haven't found a good distorted guitar part that i like using as an example, but we'll get there). As far as the room size goes, that room is roughly 22' x 17' but its NOT square. (kinda shaped like stair steps) Half the room is treated with absorbent material on the ceiling and one wall. One wall is stacked STONE and the facing wall across from the stone is wood (what you see in the back of the video). The room isn't "dead", but its not really echoey either. There's a lot of stuff in there (piano, drums, synths, guitars amps etc.) There are 3 different floor types as well, ceramic tile, carpet and faux wood for the drum side. I haven't seem to have an issue with reflections because of the complexity of the room, but thats by design. Occasionally, I will still use a reflexion filter if i have a particularly "verbose" singer where I'm getting a little too much room. Thanks for checking out the video! Appreciate it!
How is your Sphere L22 going? Still using it?
Yeah still using it. We just got our D12E back from being refurbished and tested it in comparison to the townsend. Its a great mic both to record and as a reference.