Based on this and other info, I ordered this unit as configured, on 14 Jul with a 5, maybe 6 week shop date. After emailing 3 times it was finally shipped from CA on 14 Sep. Via priority mail, I didn't get it delivered until 03 Oct in Idaho Falls. Arrived with circuit breaker lever broken off. Garett sent out a replacement on 5 Oct. Hope it will get here tomorrow, 09 Oct. High hopes it will work well once I get am operating unit.
The air gap ferrite inductor is the better option in general as it has a tighter flux concentration. It does, however, need fairly precise alignment in the flux zone.
Federal Premium uses both flame and induction annealers on their rifle lines. Fully automated. And everyone in RUclips land has no idea of the amount of volume an ammunition plant makes.
They have one so you can convert your Girard case amealer to induction. Last I looked it was close to the $500 Mark. If you add that to the Girard it comes to $1000.00 so it probably not worth it unless you already have a Girard or do high production.
Stephen B I think the using the machine like it is works fine. I can actually pump out cases very fast just by hand. I don’t think automating it would be worth it.
Very good video! Thank you! Is annealing required every time when the same casing is fired and ready for another reload? Also, between what steps should annealing be done? Would this be before resizing and de-capping step?
Yes, brass gets work hardened when firing it, so to have consistent tension, anneal the brass after each firing for the same results, it also extends longevity. Anneal before resizing to prevent spring back
@@F53802 AMP is absolutely superior product. It costs more but if you look at the R&D put into it, you will realize why. Love mine, wouldnt trade it for anything!
Brian Voegeli I’m not sure that it is better for say. It’s just another option for annealing. You aren’t buying propane and you can easily adjust it to 1/10th of a second.
You can use it with the giraud annealer, but if you’re looking for an induction annealer and want something automatic and better results its better to invest in the AMP annealer
The Annie is currently adapted for use with the F.W. Arms automatic feeder. facebook.com/131359766911049/videos/349831278978456/ as well as the Giraud machine. and I'm happy to say we've begun work with Annealeez to offer an integration with their machine! AND there are a couple other mating options coming down the pipe later this year. Follow us on Facebook for regular updates! facebook.com/Fluxeon-Inc-131359766911049/
From what I’ve been told by a BR shooter that uses one you don’t have an open flame and a propane tank in your house, and propane annealers flames vary as tank fill changes, causing a difference in annealing
If you really want induction, Giraud is what you want. This is too much effort for me. It's either Giraud or Bench Source if you have around $500 to spend. Or Annealeez gen 2 if you don't want to spend over $300.
@rpr6.5 creedmoor Where have I written that they are wrong. All the testing the AMP guys have done is of course expensive and that they want to keep the results secret is easy to understand, but don't you think you would have had the same result if equal annealing temperature was used by all annealing methods.
@rpr6.5 creedmoor Have read everything plus much more. As I say AMP uses higher temperature than Annealez (750° F is not enough) and therefore cannot be compared. AMP has tested to reach the right temperature, but of course they keeps them secret. With this temperature, we could achieve the same result with Annealez, or any other method.
Based on this and other info, I ordered this unit as configured, on 14 Jul with a 5, maybe 6 week shop date. After emailing 3 times it was finally shipped from CA on 14 Sep. Via priority mail, I didn't get it delivered until 03 Oct in Idaho Falls. Arrived with circuit breaker lever broken off. Garett sent out a replacement on 5 Oct. Hope it will get here tomorrow, 09 Oct. High hopes it will work well once I get am operating unit.
The air gap ferrite inductor is the better option in general as it has a tighter flux concentration. It does, however, need fairly precise alignment in the flux zone.
Federal Premium uses both flame and induction annealers on their rifle lines. Fully automated.
And everyone in RUclips land has no idea of the amount of volume an ammunition plant makes.
I'm sure we do, a assload of ammo
There is a RUclips video of a "tour" thru the Federal Cartridge Plant. It's worth watching. Search for it.
Is there a second video with setup?
How much distilled water do you put in it? Is it possible to put to much water in it?
They have one so you can convert your Girard case amealer to induction. Last I looked it was close to the $500 Mark. If you add that to the Girard it comes to $1000.00 so it probably not worth it unless you already have a Girard or do high production.
Stephen B I think the using the machine like it is works fine. I can actually pump out cases very fast just by hand. I don’t think automating it would be worth it.
Very good video! Thank you! Is annealing required every time when the same casing is fired and ready for another reload? Also, between what steps should annealing be done? Would this be before resizing and de-capping step?
Yes, brass gets work hardened when firing it, so to have consistent tension, anneal the brass after each firing for the same results, it also extends longevity. Anneal before resizing to prevent spring back
Do you still plan on doing the 3 part series on this?
Have you looked at Annealing Made Perfect? Very precise and slick.
and 3+ times the cost.....
@@additudeobx and 10x better.
@@F53802 AMP is absolutely superior product. It costs more but if you look at the R&D put into it, you will realize why. Love mine, wouldnt trade it for anything!
In which way is this better than annealeez machine that does everything automatically
Brian Voegeli I’m not sure that it is better for say. It’s just another option for annealing. You aren’t buying propane and you can easily adjust it to 1/10th of a second.
You can use it with the giraud annealer, but if you’re looking for an induction annealer and want something automatic and better results its better to invest in the AMP annealer
The Annie is currently adapted for use with the F.W. Arms automatic feeder. facebook.com/131359766911049/videos/349831278978456/
as well as the Giraud machine.
and I'm happy to say we've begun work with Annealeez to offer an integration with their machine!
AND there are a couple other mating options coming down the pipe later this year.
Follow us on Facebook for regular updates! facebook.com/Fluxeon-Inc-131359766911049/
From what I’ve been told by a BR shooter that uses one you don’t have an open flame and a propane tank in your house, and propane annealers flames vary as tank fill changes, causing a difference in annealing
@@markahdz what? AMP = 3x the cost and it has a 30 minute cool down wait time after 500-ish cases.
Drinking game - take a shot every time he says 'here'. You won't be able to pour fast enough to keep up!
If you really want induction, Giraud is what you want. This is too much effort for me. It's either Giraud or Bench Source if you have around $500 to spend. Or Annealeez gen 2 if you don't want to spend over $300.
by the time you pay for all the parts you might as well have gotten an AMP annealer with the Aztec system built in.
So much easier to use.
This unit is used as the induction part of the Giraud solution
What's it cost
Charles Smith well there are a few options but it’s in the $500 neighborhood
@@vaughnprecision thanks I was getting ready to Google it !!
No thanks ill stick to my 275.00 annealez, so much easier and better....
Yes, totally agree, we just need the AMP machine to give us the right temperature, because 750° F is too low.
@rpr6.5 creedmoor Where have I written that they are wrong. All the testing the AMP guys have done is of course expensive and that they want to keep the results secret is easy to understand, but don't you think you would have had the same result if equal annealing temperature was used by all annealing methods.
@rpr6.5 creedmoor Have read everything plus much more. As I say AMP uses higher temperature than Annealez (750° F is not enough) and therefore cannot be compared. AMP has tested to reach the right temperature, but of course they keeps them secret. With this temperature, we could achieve the same result with Annealez, or any other method.
@rpr6.5 creedmoor Advertising works very well on some people. But if you are happy with the purchase, then fine with me.
@rpr6.5 creedmoor I'm against unneccessary clogging of our landfills. Please send it to me instead. I will repurpose it.