Tata Tiago EV vs Citroen eC3 - Which is the better electric car? | Autocar India
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2024
- The Tata Tiago EV and Citroen eC3 are among India's most affordable electric cars. Saumil Shah brings the two together to tell you which gives you more for your money.
Camerapersons: Sharad Vegada, Roshni Manghani
Editor: Rohan Salaskar
0:00 - Introduction
0:55 - Size and styling
2:00 - Citroen eC3 interior
3:03 - Tata Tiago EV interior
3:49 - Feature comparison
4:01 - Citroen eC3 driving experience
7:49 - Warranty
7:58 - Tata Tiago EV driving experience
10:27 - Range
10:55 - Charging
11:30 - Verdict
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citroen managed to get 3-cylinder ICE engine vibration in the electric motor. Thats a remarkable job.
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I own Citreon eC3(Top Variant) and along with Petrol Hyundai Grant i10 Asta(O) (Top Variant ) .. Now I had 6000 kms plus drive in my EV .. Had Highway Trip to Bangalore .. Single day 450 KM .. acheived Highway millage of about 250 Km to 280 Km per charge on Eco Mode with full load (5 adult and 3 kids and boot space full of heavy lagguage ) Ac and Music system , chageing of phone on my 8 hours plus Journey . Fast Charge Power delivery nearly 38kw .. quick 40 mins 20 to 90 plus percent reached. Comfort in Top Notch .. Suspension was very premiem and steering control view of road and ease drive is wow.. for me .. I excepted some Cross SUV type of Car over Hatchback for funky look..for second car. I am happy with my choice
Great! Glad that you did not concentrate on looks like door handle, etc and went for thinkgs that matter
@@ArpanMukhopadhyay93 Also Battery Matters eC3(30kw) for electric car .. On Ride And Charging Tigor EV owner complaint lot about the car just 26kw or less 1.7 plus lakhs more on road and he says his suspension other think we're not good. Tiago is small hatchback like Hyundai grant i10 Asta(O).. need SUV type funky look for 2nd car in Home. During Fast Charge power delivery in Tigor EV is less than Citreon eC3 ev..
The battery will be shot dead because of air cooling. Look at the state of Leaf EVs in the west with their air cooled batteries.
@@TheFourthWinchester all cars have aur cooled batteries in India, no? I mean the tata, citroen EVs
@@ArpanMukhopadhyay93 No. Only Citroen has it. Most have liquid cooled batteries.
Tata is a proved player now in the Indian EV arena, so TATA for sure.
They have proved to have no after sales service. Once you buy keep fingers crossed.
You're right Tata is the most experienced EV manufacturer in Indian market right now
@@prozac1127 yeah Citroen has a very good service across all its catalogue
@@prozac1127 no issues in my area. We have a Nexon and Tiago at home. Also, what service are you expecting for an EV with 8 year warranty on motor and battery? Further how many service centers does citron have and what's their credibility in India?
Citroen seems has LFP battery more charge cycles longevity .
What's wrong with Citreon Management.. Doesn't provide Rear camera & Electric foldable/adjustment ORVM.
Now they added in top models..upgrade ur knowledge before comment
@@Foodie_Cooking_Loverz I'm taking about ec3 not c3 plz check in car website.
@@Foodie_Cooking_Loverz so should we provide 13 lakhs for such features?
@@spider.knot.7Ofcourse. Tiago did. So Citroen should
@@vigilant069 but tiago provides such features from 9 lakhs itself 🤷♂️
Tiago should be a no brainer between these two. It's better than the citron in almost all departments. It is more powerful, it has plethora of features where the citron's equipment list is lesser than even a 5 lakhs car in India, Tiago has more warranty, it is more refined..and on top it's cheaper too. What more do you want?
If anyone wants a bigger EV, they should spend more money and get the Nexon. The citron is heavily over priced. It doesn't even have alloy wheels as standard. I mean seriously? What is the company even thinking?
Forget the alloy wheels, EVs have plastic covers supposedly for aero & efficiency. But with the Citroen, I don't think that's the case. It's to suit the cheap nature of the car. What I cannot fathom is why would anyone put manual mirrors in a car that runs on a battery. I mean, how much money are they saving by skipping out on electronically adjustable mirrors? For a car that's well above 11 lakh rupees! It's as if the car's features were decided in two rounds. First round by people who have sat inside a few modern cars. Second round by anachronistic cheapskates with the singular aim of cutting costs. They have kept the 10" infotainment screen alongside the most pathetic looking speedo cluster. Wireless Android Auto & Carplay but manual AC. Zero cohesion. If and when the team of morons who made these decisions are fired, I'll be a happy man.
@@anirudh64 They failed to understand the pulse of the newer gen Indians.
@@anirudh64 lol true...
@@sathyaki ya lol wtf they think we r outdated, like living 10 years before whole world... I wish Tesla was here.
@@pradeep422 They think Indians will fall for the foreign brand name.
For me, the 5 years warranty on the motor of the ec3 is a deal breaker, whereas tata gives 8 years on both battery and motor
And no rear camera no cruise control
2:37 it does bother many !!!!
Citroën, like other French companies has done zero market research in India. They are gonna shut shop soon.
No, Renault has done preety good
Yes, as a last chance C3 Aircross will decide their future in India.
@@gouthammekala5223 C3 Air cross is overpriced
I’m from kochi, here I’m seeing a lot of C3 ev than regular petrol models, almost equal as Tiago EV
@@adithyan8843 I am from Mumbai. I see none. If you say that Citroen cars are gonna impress those car enthusiasts who are well enough to spare cash on a second car even if it's features list is barren, then many Mumbaikars should have bought it. The thing is that there is negligible customer satisfaction. You are always gonna regret your puchase seeing others drive a much more convenient car for almost the same price.
It seems that eC3's instrument cluster was designed in 1960's .
Same is with tata instrument cluster
@@ajay.chauhan I agree. Neither look particularly modern
bro its literally the same kind of cluster that you'd get in a scooter 🤣
I think they overshot the budget for the dash with just the 10" infotainment screen. Literally everything other than the screen is cheap af. Instead of having a full steering wheel, they could've cut it in half, claiming it as an inspiration from the Tesla Model S' yoke but secretly saving 14 Rs of plastic and threads.
@@anirudh64 true that, eC3 has one of the worst cost cutting on a vehicle, that's worst than what Maruti does
Tata Tiago EV has auto climate control, cruise control, reverse camera, rear wiper, sports mode drive, very informative driver display and above all, adjustable regen levels for different driving conditions of ev cars. Citroen doesn't have any of these.
And the audacity to charge 13 lakhs , skipping all those features
Also keyless start
Tiago has keyless start
@@varghesethainan6932 yes, i forgot to mention this
And also mirror adjust
Citreon for sure, focused on features required than wanted.. I have taken test drive, it feels way more premium to drive and the seat comfort plus suspension is 40% better then Maruti suzuki BALENO(coz I have it)
The main thing, it doesn’t looks like a commercial vehicle. I mean its a good urban car!
Easy to say than to purchase in Real
Most people who comment are the one who never buy it
Brother just booked the citreon 2 weeks ago.. wait ing for it to be delivered
@@RishabhAgrawal740 Congratulations bro👏🏻
@@crusherff3602good luck bro.😂
Glad to see Soumil doing a review after a really long hiatus. Fab and illustrative , as usual. Kudos!!
I like the looks of Tiago as compared to ec3, also it feels premium given eC3’s interiors!
भावा ic engine गाडी मध्ये कोणती आवडते ??
khara ahe
I own a Tiago Ev, range is way beyond 187kms. I easily get 200kms with daily 140 km highway driving.
Daily 140km?
I am also getting 220 km with AC ON with normal driving style in tiago
@@instalullahmyselfkatua9363 yes 140 km on highway then rest about 30-40 kms in the city. After all this i am left with 50kms of range when i plug it for charging at night
@@instalullahmyselfkatua9363 yes
What's your cost per one full charge cycle
I found citroen more linear acceleration in normal mode compared to tiago..and more comfortable to sit and drive
Not just the duration of warranty, the policies are also starkly different. citroen doesn't cover water entry and deep discharge while tata does. Also on side note, citroen enabled 38kW fast charge via update whereas tiago only does 18kW.
In other words both have lots of ups and lots of downs
7:19 How do you feel vibrations from the motor when at standstill? The motor doesn't rotate then.
I completely disagree to the overall range. You cannot actually predict the range of any EV. The claimed ones are tested under some condition laid by ARAI. However, the actual range depends on how you drive . I have Tigor EV and range I m getting is between 230 km to 265 km.
So I would recommend to showcase the features, regen modes, etc. I think what Tata need to improve is on fixing rattling issues on IP and interior trims, which occur over a period of time. Citroen needs to improve the practicality on instument cluster side. Its a basic cluster which doesn't gives any relevant info. If you have battery % then it doesnt show range, and vice versa. I have driven this car long back, but don't know they have really improved it.
Rest all is a good review. 👍🏻
Citron can't beat Tata Tiago
Price ,safety,looks ,features all are in Tiago EV in 9lakh 👌🔥🚗
As a car enthusiast I feel bad when people prioritize features over build quality, suspension set up, ride quality, range, 38W fast charging where as tiago has 18w. Citroen is known for its quality and less electronics means less maintainance. I feel probably first time buyes get fascinated by features.
Awesome Review......properly explained the differences between both the cars.
Great to see Electric Vehicles getting more affordable…
Thanks, a genuine and unbiased review, like it
Citroën eC3 needs the additional features they have added in the Petrol model now, otherwise it’s a pretty great car.
Service centre network is important for EVs than ICE. Though scheduled service is done less frequent, issues and niggles will happen in EVs. A common one is vehicle getting an error due to improper communication from fast charger and vehicle wont shift to Drive mode. This can be easily cleared by service centre laptop clearing the error code via obd2 port. But without service network this will be an issue
Can i change the steering position?
Tiago EV is a no brainer for me. The only department it falls behind is look wise and probably in terms of suspension capability. Otherwise, its cheaper(starting range) and I would anyday trust a local brand while considering an unconventional vehicle choice so that I get easily accessible showrooms and parts for repairing
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The reason for dulling the performance of Citroen purposefully was to ensure safety due to overheating since it is air cooled
Does ec3 have sports mode ?
I wonder about the resale value of these EVs.. eC3 with all those dated basic features..i wonder if one sells about 5-6yrs later...what would be its value!
Whats the most surprising is the vibrations in the Citroen... seems like a bad motor. May be a manufacturing defect. Otherwise the motor won't last very long. Other thing is Autocad shouldn't have charged to 100% on a DC charger and spent more time doing the charging curve test for both cars.
2 things:
1. Reverse camera and alloys are available as accessories on the eC3.
2. eC3 should be compared with XUV400 and Nexon rather than the much much smaller Tiago. The eC3 will feel more value for money when comparing with compact SUV/crossover cars from its segment rather than with a small hatchback.
All that Tiago is offering is features. It has much lesser cabin and boot space, lesser range and no spare wheel too.
But I think that citreon has to prove more and here if it can't compared with tiago.....
So there is no need to compare with higher segments like tigor,nexon and xuv 400...
Did anyone saw the part where the spare wheel was kept was not painted properly in ec3
TATA always 🤟
Host Appreciation : Script recitation and articulation is great. Keeps us hooked onto the video! Great Job.
When tata Tiago sales are in thousands , Citroen sales are not even in hundreds...very good comparison.....
As a car enthusiast I feel bad when people prioritize features over build quality, suspension set up, ride quality, range, 38W fast charging where as tiago has 18w. Citroen is known for its quality and less electronics means less maintainance. I feel probably first time buyes get fascinated by features.
Tiago EV ❤
ngl I have a eC3 is for that price the comfort that it offers is unmatched, the looks are killer not even a comparison and tbh the practicality the boot space given by the eC3 , also its more fun to drive even if the power is linear you can feel it pretty good(yes I have driven both)
Great presentation
Citroen is definitely no brainer. It is comparatively better than tiago so gonna go with c3. Citroen is a much respected brand globally
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@@9886372268 nah bro Citroen is definitely good plus they have very good customer care service like reallyyy good
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@@yashpatel261 yeah bro I agree on cost cutting etc but that car has superb engine and it is actually better than Tiago ev and competition. Citroen is fun to drive
That thumbnail, though! 🔥
Waiting for TATA Punch EV
I had seen Citroen on the road but seeing the battery fitted under it, I lost faith in the ec3, they are saying(Citroen) that it is futuristic and ready for the e platform, but when I saw it from the side, it looked like a side fitted battery on the car and you can'd ignore the proportion of the car.
So interesting facts about ec3 1) The magic carpet like ride in petrol versions does not exists in Electric version (?)
2) You sit Knees up in second row like you do it in 3rd usually ( Amazing)
3) Being Electric car it makes noise at slow speeds ( Ivtec engine being petrol in itself does not make Noise !!)
This Shoot is done in Tathwawade area of Pune , where I once lived....the charging station is near Burger king, State Bank of India, Tahthawade branch 😅...
Nice compare guys
Citron eC3 is best
Why the stupid unnecessary loud music in the start ????
Tiago Ev is the best at anything
If u think Citroen air-cooled battery is not a problem then please check early history of Nissan leaf car and it's battery degradation chart.
I am no car expert, but shouldn't we wait for the punch ev for this comparison?
No sure, just asking.
Air-cooled battery 🔋 is concern while Tata offers cutting edge technology of liquid cooled considered indian climate condition.
Go for Indian brand
Looks like autocar got new cameraman & Rapper
It’s appalling how these companies take India for granted while launching a product. More than being cost conscious, it’s borderline insulting
Citroen is way better than Tiago
Not really
Citreon eC3 should be compared to Tata Tigor Ev since they come at similar price points. eC3 seems to be overpriced for what it offers
Support only indian brands, TATA 🎉🎉
Now you should do ec3 vs the new punch EV.
Citroen seems spacious better regen also
A big surprise on the instrumentation cluster on eC3. Are they in a hurry to release the EV? I wouldn't buy it just because of it.
The MG Comet could have been added in the comparison, though not a direct rival but definitely a considerable option.
I am okay with less features, as long as I get good ride and built quality bigger car in affordable prices. Boot space/interior space, suspension is so good In Citron and I'm satisfied with performance of the car. Build quality is also good, door has weight and plastic quality is also good for the car of its price. To sum up you get modern comfortable car with good built quality and normal features which meets day to day driving at a affordable price range.
I am tiago ev owner and its range is 200 km easy... 220 is possible with soft pedal drive
BHAI CITROENeC3 NEXON AUR XUV E300 MAHINDRA SE SEGMENT ME AATI HAI
Punch EV will finish off the Citroen ec3
Very straightforward and sensible review and the verdict too! Good work TATA and Autocar India! 👍
Tata is better overall and a more mature player in ev market.
Show driver's POV while driving
comparing eC3 with Tiago ev felt like a heavyweight boxer with a bantam-weight. But see who is knocked out.
Liquid cool decreases battery degradation. missed that completely
eC3 interiors looks more refined than the Tiago ..i wish Citroen had more service centres like Tata does
I'll go with eC3
Why
Looks like my dude loves shit
What a terrible instrument cluster on such an expensive car ! What is Citroen thinking? Could have put a 400 rs calculater instead
Wait, Tiago doesn’t have a spare tire?
Citroën has completely missed in understanding what the Indian market wants… could have been potentially best cars..
Different customers value different things.i do value range and ride quality. Ec3 have better ride quality. We brought ec3 shine at around 14.5 lakh which have rear camera and adjustable mirror.
I test drove both punch and xter, and both have substandard ride quality.
I think people buying punch or xter would be first time car buyers.
When tata is going to get out of that Indica cab look and design. We all know that indica helped survive the company but its time to get past over it.
I think the citroen is geared taller than the Tiago.. that's why it's has the same consumption per km as the Tiago and is slower than the Tiago even though it has higher torque.
There are no gears in ev..just the motor ...Just 1 gear all the way... 57bhp vs 74 bhp..however the consumption of electricity by these motors are very similar from 50-140bhp
Yes. I know... but that single gear ratio can be low or high which determines how much is the torque at the wheel. It feels like citroen has given a lower quality motor since it vibrates and cannot revv as high as the Tiago's, that's why it's been geared taller and hence is slower in acceleration despite having higher torque.
Y the hell did they make ec3 ? Just stick to Aircross , popularise the suspension technology it has. And try to build a good network
It's realy cool and I hope it also would come to iran
Manual mirrors?! 😮
It’s not even a contest.
eC3 looks more like a Test mule afterthought put out in the market to manage C.A.F.E. Targets.
Tiago.Ev is matured hatchback product. It may would’ve been a competition if eC3 was a better product and if there was Punch EV too.
I would rather go with a Born Electric car.
Tired of watching Tiago vs '****' only to realise Tiago EV is the best out there !
Why do i feel like the reviewer was trying his best to sell ec3 though he knows its a bad choice
Because autocar doesn't like Tata cars
Rather have a premium interior with plentiful features as compared to exteriors that look like they're raised on a jack.
Good you didnt bring toys from MG for this video.
Alto has a better instrument cluster than ec3 even though it's analogue.
please make review on vw grand California
But why would they, it's not on sale in India.
@@ShnehansuRajBaruah yeah but still its a very practical camper van
@@tharunjayakumar256 they can't review it because they can't get a press vehicle here in India. 😑
@Shnehansu Raj Baruah that vehicle can come to india as the camper van market in india is growing
@@tharunjayakumar256 I don't really think it'll be a success in India. The campervan niche in India is still very small. And if this came to India, it would most likely be as a CBU and it would cost a lot. Which does not work for the Volkswagen brand here
Best Part is in Citreon C3 Boot Space is not reduced
I will go with tata any day, with a stong support of after sales and service. Tata is the best buy
Biggest problem wjth auto car india is the failure to mention peak charging rate in every single EV review
Its like All the reviewers are stuck in the ICE age. Unable to understand the importance of charging curve to any user.
Please grow up and start mentioning the actual charging curve rathee than talking like a tata sales person who says "0-92% charge in 53 minutes" . That statement has no meaning and is completely pointless
Solar penal nahi lagaya.
I would choose the Citroen without any doubt, looks much better, stylish, higher and looks much more premium
Citroen weighs more than Tiago still it has good range.
Bigger battery and less power
No sudden pickup citreon 56 ps, Tiago 76 ps
The music is too loud.
Citroen needs to ramp up service centers. Lesser Showrooms can be managed but after sales cannot.
I will choose Tiago anyday ❤
Can't hold a candle to the Tiago in 2023. I dont understand cant they see the competition atleast as in what features the offer to get an idea...seems they are in 2013
Tata should come up with better design
TATA 🔥