Horrendous cabling, the one on the bottom bracket is exposed and for sure will get damaged. This guy will never say anything bad about any bike. Be advised.
This is a most wonderful review! Is this the most powerful, class 3, e-bike you've tested? Can you recommend other commuter e-bikes that are similar or competitive to this model? Thank you.
Puncture protection with the schwabe tire, not sure about that. I had a rear flat tire yesterday. It was a small tiny piece of of glass that puncture the tire and the tube. So puncture protection!?!?
Another fantastic Review!! Been seriously looking at the DOST bikes, but also interested in the Biktrix Duo3 and RIZE RX. The RIZE RX seems to have a lot of similar components, a larger 1000 watt motor and torque sensor for less money, but not sure which of these bikes is the best value and best bike. Really be interested in your opinion Court and the opinion of others.
Those are the exact 3 bikes that I have been considering. I eliminated the biktrix from my shortlist because it is the heaviest (100 lbs in dual battery configuration if I remember correctly). Also the biktrix, has 3" tires which I believe is a little too wide if you are looking to maximize range. The Rize Rx and the Dost bike are very comparable. The Rize looks better for the price at first. Having a torque sensor, larger battery size in dual config and more powerful motor. Also it has no exposed cables at the bottom of the downtube like Dost has. Only downside I see is the brakes on the Rize are single piston vs dual on Dost. Dost has 2 year warranty vs 1 year on Rize. And Dost has fantastic front mounting points for a well designed front rack that contains two bottle bosses as shown in this video. If I'm wrong on any of the specs, or anyone would like to share their opinion I'm happy to hear it For me the gates carbon belt was the deciding factor that made me finally decide on Dost. Here's a link to an excel spreadsheet I made comparing bikes I was/am considering. Let me know if link doesn't work. 1drv.ms/x/s!Ajg1evrVY25QsT0099X6znPsAOCj?e=4kHJ5j
@@repCanada Thanks so much for sharing the spreadsheet!! This really helps to compare the bikes. Just one thing I am noticing is that the pricing you have listed may have changed recently. The DOST CVT with 2 batteries is listed as $5898 CAD and the RIZE RX is listed as $4199 CAD. Also, the Rize RX comes with a suspension seat post standard where that's an additional $199 with the DOST. Leaving pricing aside, so far I think the biggest differentiator between these bikes may be service and support, as with DOST is appears excellent, and with the RIZE highly suspect based on lots of comments in various forums. I am also really not a fan of the exposed wiring on the DOST from a reliability standpoint , and also wish it had a torque sensor. Lots to think about...
▪ I originally had those 3 brands in mind . Was gonna get that biktrix juggernaut classic 8 discounted [800 bucks cheaper] on their website [don't know if it's still there], but biktrix don't ship to Alaska.. I don't think rize does, either - but I wanted that Dost bike anyway. I would attempt to upgrade my order to the CVT mode, but they don't ship those out until spring 2022., - so F that wait. I want something asap. Dost customer support seems to be much more evident than Rizes' does. Which was a major factor in my decision. 🟥
@@2NDFLB-CLERK I agree. From what I can tell, Dost's Customer service and support is excellent, Biktrix's is good, and Rize is well below par (from comment's I have seen). I have no personal knowledge of any of them, although I did visit the Dost showroom to view the bikes in Port Coquitlam and they were very nice and answered all my questions. The question is: Is Customer Service & Support worth the price differential relative to the much lower cost of RIZE for the same / better components...
Charles, you do realize that the added weight on the Biktrix duo is due to the larger battery right? Dost with two batteries is 48V 24Ah (14ah + 10ah). Rize is 48V 30Ah (15ah x 2) and Biktrix is 52V 39Ah (17.5Ah + 21.5Ah).
NOW COMES THE WAIT. I ordered one... delivery in April sometime. They only had ~15 that weren't spoken for at the time. I think they ran out of those, so it's later this year or early 2023 that they'll get more in.
This bike seems to “have it all”. I wonder what is the expected life for the gates carbon belt drive and what maintenance it requires? I do think this is the best I’ve found and I look forward to purchasing one.
All except for the all the deficiencies this shill will never tell you about, like weak cheap light, garbage fenders, or the horrendous kludgey cable management...
Cort. I have a buddy that owns the original Dost e-bike with a chain and derailleur. He tells me that he has to set the speed he wants to ride at before he starts to ride. Is this bike the same were you have to stop and set the speed you want to ride at? This seems to me like a really limiting feature of the bike. Most e-bikes, as you know, have different levels of assist that you can change while riding.
I had a wide grin on my face for all 22 minutes of this video! I am new to ebikes and have not even been on one yet, but nothing has caught my attention like this bike - well there's the Riese and Mueller Superdelight but that's still out of my budget for an ebike. This one Dost Kope, however, checks all my needs for a fun commuter bike. I wonder if I can save enough to make this my xmas gift! Would be nice to have an auto CVT that links with the motor for worry-free riding and for the longevity of the motor. Can you turn the power off and ride it like a regular bike?
Great review! Thanks! Interesting ebike! If the max payload is 285lbs and you are a heavier rider then you are limited if you want to carry additional cargo. For the heavy build of the bike it would have been nice if it was built to have a 300+ lb max rating.
I feel you, their original bikes were rated to 300lbs, but I think they are being a bit more conservative now to account for the high rear rack rating. In my experience, spokes are the first thing to fail on bikes that are overloaded. They start to come loose and can break, but the bike frame and other parts tend to do well.
I enjoyed your prior years review. This is a nice addition for sure. I would really like to check that out in person. Wish they were available in NC within a dealer network. Company looks solid as well.
Hey, glad you enjoyed them! I like what DŌST is doing and feel that they care a lot about their customers and are doing their best to refine the bikes even beyond the original. The founder has lots of experience and has configured things well in my opinion, lots of thought went into everything... including the box, stickers, and battery options. Maybe you can find someone who owns one nearby on the forums or something? electricbikereview.com/forums/forum/dost/
😂 Spot on. I’d love to know how the front basket fits around that wiring loom, or the other way round. Ah, just go to the part with the basket and cable routing.
I’d love to buy this bike but I don’t want to wait 8 months for it. What is a good alternative for a powerful mid mount motor like this with a CVT drivetrain ? We do probably 2/3 road pavement riding and 1/3 gravel trails. Thanks for what you do, love your videos.
▪️ I got the original dost and my sh't sounds like that, too. It didn't when I first got it [if I remember correctly]. I gotta get that thing looked at for multiple reasons. All in all, it's pretty tough. [Knock on wood] 🟥
Bro, Next time you do a review. Please try it on rainy day , submerge and wet condition. Also try to run over some muddy road too. This could reflect on the true durable of the bike.
I feel you, sometimes I cover bikes in the rain or snow. Most are rated as water resistant, this one is very durable with IP65 rating. I try to film on nicer days to protect my cameras and keep the view clear. You could ask owners about long term durability in the forums electricbikereview.com/forums/forum/dost/
Yes! I'm sorry that I didn't show that in this review. It is very easy to unlock and remove from the downtube. I show it in these other ones for the original chain drive + cassette models: electricbikereview.com/dost/kope/
Are you not allowed to ride this on trails or up hills in the woods over rough terrain? Does Dost tell you not to is that why you don't give it a real test ride?
▪️ I have the original Dost, and I was delivering a food order earlier today with it. Google Maps gave me the a HORRIBLE "best route" to take. It was an off-road bike path that wasn't too bad for the first 90% - but then the last part was a small but crazy steep hill with tree roots, which made it quite bumpy. When I got to the top of it, I saw another one. The bike handled those hills, but I did wipe out because of my own bad judgment. Luckily, the customer ordered something that wasn't easy to make messy from this. Going up those hills, I was worried about putting too much pressure on the chain and snapping it. I really need to take that thing to the 'bike doctor' in the near future... 🟥
You can read about it anywhere. Be advised that reviewer loves every bike he 'reviews" and other than some quibbles, will NEVER tell you the bad stuff that you need to know. The CVT is great by the way.
Hey, I have watched so many of your reviews and it is so hard to choose a bike. Help! I know exactly what a want: a bike that feels like a regular bike as much as possible, can go on bumpy pavement, dirt roads, some small path hills, and power enough that I can go up the hills in my hilly town of Port Townsend, WA. Also, availability is an issue. I found a Moustache Xroad2 in Seattle, really nice shop called Dandelion Bikes, and the owner Tyler is such a cool and helpful bike guy. But, 4K is so expensive! The Moustache is also heavy at almost 60 pounds. We also have the Rad headquarters, but although they are much less expensive, they don’t seem like that are as responsive and natural riding as the Moustache. One more thing, the bike I have had for 35 years is a Specialized Stump Jumper which I love, but my back and knees need help now. Do you have any advise? I know that Specialized has a Vado SL, but not as many people work on those motors compared to the Bosch system. Do you have any advise?
So what a clean looking shifting mechanism but you didn't mention much about how it felt to use. Would you recommend it over a derailer ? Does it feel completely different and just how convenient is it to use ?
Hello. I’m lot really sure if this is the right place t7o6 ask this type of question so forgive me if it is not. I have been doing a lot of research, trying to decide on my first e bike. I am really interested in the Dost Kope CVT, Specialized Turbo Vado SL 5.0 Eq, and the Radcity 5 Plus. I really want a rear rack and am a bit worried the Specialized rack is too thin/small. However, there is the advantage of being able to buy the Specialized from my local bike shop and establishing that relationship. The Specialized is also much lighter for carrying and it looks so much more like a bicycle. There is also the brand envy as I would love to own a specialized bike. The Kope CVT has that amazing and easy belt drive, the amazing from standstill infinite shifting, and the motor cutoff when shifting. It has a really nice display They both have the optional 2nd battery I can add later. It has a really nice display. Thejh Radcity has so many amazing features for so much less money. I really like the tail light brightening when breaking. I’m not as enthused by the hub motor but I could buy 2 of them for the price of the Specialized or Dost. I am looking for the bike to be used for predominantly street and paved bike trails. I can’t drive a car due to a visual jdisability so biking is my way jto run errands or grocery shop and any other activity within 20 miles of home, to avoid Uber charges. Is there any recommendation you can make to help me to decide, or any other bike you recommend? I really appreciate your help.
▪ If you upgrade you will be waiting until spring 2022. If you've got something to hold you over until then, I would say upgrade. I was going to upgrade, but I don't have an existing ebike, , so I'm going to just hope this kope 1 arrives soon . When are you expecting yours ? Did you get the kope or the drop ? 🟥
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Thanks for your feedback, I do my best to communicate trade-offs like price and weight, and point out the different level of components used, and decisions I see as compromises. You can hear that in this review and see the 16 cons listed in detail back at the full writeup here electricbikereview.com/dost/kope-cvt/ I like the DŌST bikes in general because they offer something pretty unique :)
Agree. You might want to take a look at the Evelo Atlas. Basically the same features (no front basket option), but it has a Bafang M600 with both cadence and torque sensors. If I didn't have their Aurora Limited with torque only (which is good enough for now), that's what I would get.
@@emma70707 Well if you are in BC/Canada DOST is HQ is there, and EVELO won't ship to Canada so there is that. Also American dollars, Canadians getting slaughtered on the exchange rate and duties and tariffs. This why they don't ship to Canada right now. Great Ebike for Americans.
My understanding is that it's cadence. One of the very few weak points in this bike. The other being the exposed cables at the bottom of the downtube. And imo the last being that there is no option for a more powerful motor for off-road use
@@djraulcee I agree 100% and at this price it's so weird not to have it. Anyone that will pay this much for an ebike would pay an extra $100 for a torque sensor or however much they cost
Yeah, it's a speed and 24 magnet cadence sensor. The motor is a Bafang BBS02 rated at 750 watts nominal. I was told that DŌST built a prototype using the torque sensing Bafang model, but wasn't happy with the results. I'm sure they will continue to explore ongoing because Sam is a perfectionist and wants the best stuff, from what I've seen.
Good question, I like Bosch motors and Gazelle is great, but if you want the speed pedelec, throttle, or double battery pack, then this one is perfect. The quality is good, the customer support is there, and I think the design is nice, but they do only have the one size. Those are the big factors, in my opinion :)
can the throttle be removed? I don't think I'm allowed to have a throttle on a class 3 bike where I like, but this seems like the perfect ebike otherwise.
I don't know why they keep building this nicely designed bike with the outdated BBS02 motor instead of moving to the advanced Bafang M600 that they use in the Crate.
Hi Barrie! I've listed those details back in the full writeup here electricbikereview.com/dost/kope-cvt/ handlebar width is 680mm and range estimate is 30 to 60 miles per charge, or up to 120 miles if you get the second battery. It depends on your weight, the terrain, tire pressure, and level of assist or throttle being used too ;)
Buyer beware! I purchased and finally received my bike in October 2022 after months of delay.. However, due to the way the bike was strapped internally and packaged, the rear fender was cracked. I've been waiting 5 months for a replacement and now told today it will be April or May. Dost Bikes, are you serious? I was also to receive a "free" trunk bag. I've yet to receive that either. Anyone want to buy a Dost Kope CVT?.
Yeah, the prices have gone up a bit for DŌST, and their CVT models cost a bit more due to the Enviolo, Gates CDX, and custom frame with cutaway. Here are their other models for a bit less: electricbikereview.com/brand/dost/ or you can check this category of more affordable ebikes: electricbikereview.com/category/affordable/
Hi Mansa! It may look similar or share the same battery pack design, but most of these ebikes have some geometry changes and accessory differences. I've covered the Ride1Up 700 a while back, and it was pretty nice too. Here's my review of it electricbikereview.com/ride1up/700-series/
They don't honor the hassle free policy if you have bike issues. They basically reimburse you instead. Huge bummer. My bike is basically junk after 652.9 miles
Welcome to the ebike world. Lots of supply issues. I bought a rad rover and 3 months later they announced a new bike coming in October. Why should research and development anger anyone? Did you ask DOST if they were coming out w a new bike and they lied? Then you should be angry. But really you should be angry at yourself for not asking.
@@flytheskymyway Wrong. I had my Juiced bike within a week after ordering. It literally took Dost longer to refund my order than it did to order and receive the Juiced.
I feel you, it's frustrating to have to wait like that. For what it's worth, I know that DŌST is trying their best with deliveries and paying extra to get shipments as fast as possible. One of the challenges is that derailleurs and cassettes are backordered industry wide. I believe that this is one of the reasons they hustled to create a CVT and belt drive solution, because those parts will be ready to ship faster. This should reduce pressure on the other components and speed up orders like yours :)
You sound like a shill for this bike. Not mentioning lack of torque and cadence sensing or the grotesque cable assembly at the front is inexcusable. I'm astonished that the makers consider this a market ready design with that ugly mess in the front. This is a design I would have expected to see in 2015, when newby manufactures were still learning-not today. Shame on you for touting this.
How is a this a step away from being a bicycle, it has the same power motor and battery as before, just now it has a carbon belt and cvt. Which Incase you were unaware is the exact same setup at the Priority Bikes Continuum Onyx. Which is....a bicycle
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It sure is a welcomed breath of fresh air to listen to a product review from a person who is well educated on the product. Excellent vid!!
Be advised that reviewer loves every bike he 'reviews" and other than some quibbles, will NEVER tell you the bad stuff that you need to know.
This is what I have been waiting for.
Man those cable tubes are very large. Nice review…I agree about the kickstands….why every one isn’t an easy adjust I have no idea.
Yeah, they found a really great stand! I'd love to see this on more bikes :)
Horrendous cabling, the one on the bottom bracket is exposed and for sure will get damaged. This guy will never say anything bad about any bike. Be advised.
Excellent review! You’re the Michael Jordan of Ebike reviews.
He loves every bike he reviews. Do you have any other questions?
Sweet bike, hope you are well Court!
Love it!!! My next ebike ill get. 😁✌️ thanks for the review bro! :)
Pricey! But looks good.
Most ebikers now want both 1) peddle assist 2) throttle
Yeah, it's nice to have the choice of assist, throttle, and speed.
Bingo!
This is a most wonderful review! Is this the most powerful, class 3, e-bike you've tested? Can you recommend other commuter e-bikes that are similar or competitive to this model? Thank you.
Puncture protection with the schwabe tire, not sure about that. I had a rear flat tire yesterday. It was a small tiny piece of of glass that puncture the tire and the tube. So puncture protection!?!?
Another fantastic Review!!
Been seriously looking at the DOST bikes, but also interested in the Biktrix Duo3 and RIZE RX. The RIZE RX seems to have a lot of similar components, a larger 1000 watt motor and torque sensor for less money, but not sure which of these bikes is the best value and best bike. Really be interested in your opinion Court and the opinion of others.
Those are the exact 3 bikes that I have been considering. I eliminated the biktrix from my shortlist because it is the heaviest (100 lbs in dual battery configuration if I remember correctly). Also the biktrix, has 3" tires which I believe is a little too wide if you are looking to maximize range.
The Rize Rx and the Dost bike are very comparable. The Rize looks better for the price at first. Having a torque sensor, larger battery size in dual config and more powerful motor. Also it has no exposed cables at the bottom of the downtube like Dost has. Only downside I see is the brakes on the Rize are single piston vs dual on Dost. Dost has 2 year warranty vs 1 year on Rize. And Dost has fantastic front mounting points for a well designed front rack that contains two bottle bosses as shown in this video.
If I'm wrong on any of the specs, or anyone would like to share their opinion I'm happy to hear it
For me the gates carbon belt was the deciding factor that made me finally decide on Dost.
Here's a link to an excel spreadsheet I made comparing bikes I was/am considering. Let me know if link doesn't work.
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@@repCanada Thanks so much for sharing the spreadsheet!! This really helps to compare the bikes. Just one thing I am noticing is that the pricing you have listed may have changed recently. The DOST CVT with 2 batteries is listed as $5898 CAD and the RIZE RX is listed as $4199 CAD. Also, the Rize RX comes with a suspension seat post standard where that's an additional $199 with the DOST. Leaving pricing aside, so far I think the biggest differentiator between these bikes may be service and support, as with DOST is appears excellent, and with the RIZE highly suspect based on lots of comments in various forums. I am also really not a fan of the exposed wiring on the DOST from a reliability standpoint , and also wish it had a torque sensor. Lots to think about...
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I originally had those 3 brands in mind .
Was gonna get that biktrix juggernaut classic 8 discounted [800 bucks cheaper] on their website [don't know if it's still there], but biktrix don't ship to Alaska..
I don't think rize does, either - but I wanted that Dost bike anyway. I would attempt to upgrade my order to the CVT mode, but they don't ship those out until spring 2022.,
- so F that wait.
I want something asap.
Dost customer support seems to be much more evident than Rizes' does.
Which was a major factor in my decision.
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@@2NDFLB-CLERK I agree. From what I can tell, Dost's Customer service and support is excellent, Biktrix's is good, and Rize is well below par (from comment's I have seen). I have no personal knowledge of any of them, although I did visit the Dost showroom to view the bikes in Port Coquitlam and they were very nice and answered all my questions. The question is: Is Customer Service & Support worth the price differential relative to the much lower cost of RIZE for the same / better components...
Charles, you do realize that the added weight on the Biktrix duo is due to the larger battery right? Dost with two batteries is 48V 24Ah (14ah + 10ah). Rize is 48V 30Ah (15ah x 2) and Biktrix is 52V 39Ah (17.5Ah + 21.5Ah).
NOW COMES THE WAIT. I ordered one... delivery in April sometime. They only had ~15 that weren't spoken for at the time. I think they ran out of those, so it's later this year or early 2023 that they'll get more in.
It’s an awesome bike, hope everything goes smoothly and you enjoy it Matt :)
How are you liking it so far? I’m might get one soon as my escooter’s battery died recently
This bike seems to “have it all”. I wonder what is the expected life for the gates carbon belt drive and what maintenance it requires? I do think this is the best I’ve found and I look forward to purchasing one.
All except for the all the deficiencies this shill will never tell you about, like weak cheap light, garbage fenders, or the horrendous kludgey cable management...
Cort. I have a buddy that owns the original Dost e-bike with a chain and derailleur. He tells me that he has to set the speed he wants to ride at before he starts to ride. Is this bike the same were you have to stop and set the speed you want to ride at? This seems to me like a really limiting feature of the bike. Most e-bikes, as you know, have different levels of assist that you can change while riding.
I had a wide grin on my face for all 22 minutes of this video! I am new to ebikes and have not even been on one yet, but nothing has caught my attention like this bike - well there's the Riese and Mueller Superdelight but that's still out of my budget for an ebike. This one Dost Kope, however, checks all my needs for a fun commuter bike. I wonder if I can save enough to make this my xmas gift! Would be nice to have an auto CVT that links with the motor for worry-free riding and for the longevity of the motor.
Can you turn the power off and ride it like a regular bike?
Great review! Thanks! Interesting ebike! If the max payload is 285lbs and you are a heavier rider then you are limited if you want to carry additional cargo. For the heavy build of the bike it would have been nice if it was built to have a 300+ lb max rating.
I feel you, their original bikes were rated to 300lbs, but I think they are being a bit more conservative now to account for the high rear rack rating. In my experience, spokes are the first thing to fail on bikes that are overloaded. They start to come loose and can break, but the bike frame and other parts tend to do well.
The Evelo Atlas is a very similar bike with a max weight of 350 lb. (Plus you get torque and cadence sensing!)
@@emma70707 Thanks. I will check them out.
I enjoyed your prior years review. This is a nice addition for sure. I would really like to check that out in person. Wish they were available in NC within a dealer network. Company looks solid as well.
Hey, glad you enjoyed them! I like what DŌST is doing and feel that they care a lot about their customers and are doing their best to refine the bikes even beyond the original. The founder has lots of experience and has configured things well in my opinion, lots of thought went into everything... including the box, stickers, and battery options. Maybe you can find someone who owns one nearby on the forums or something? electricbikereview.com/forums/forum/dost/
I love 99% of this bike but jesus, the enormous wiring in the front is a disaster.
😂 Spot on. I’d love to know how the front basket fits around that wiring loom, or the other way round. Ah, just go to the part with the basket and cable routing.
Who cares about the giant wire? Small price to pay for a bike that got that much balls and go's that far.
Nice review for a great bike - too bad I have to wait until spring 2022!
I’d love to buy this bike but I don’t want to wait 8 months for it. What is a good alternative for a powerful mid mount motor like this with a CVT drivetrain ? We do probably 2/3 road pavement riding and 1/3 gravel trails. Thanks for what you do, love your videos.
Thx for review. At 20:35 coming down that hill, was that noise the disc brakes? Why so noisey?
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I got the original dost and my sh't sounds like that, too. It didn't when I first got it [if I remember correctly].
I gotta get that thing looked at for multiple reasons.
All in all, it's pretty tough.
[Knock on wood]
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Bro, Next time you do a review. Please try it on rainy day , submerge and wet condition. Also try to run over some muddy road too. This could reflect on the true durable of the bike.
I feel you, sometimes I cover bikes in the rain or snow. Most are rated as water resistant, this one is very durable with IP65 rating. I try to film on nicer days to protect my cameras and keep the view clear. You could ask owners about long term durability in the forums electricbikereview.com/forums/forum/dost/
@@ElectricBikeReview look bro. There are cables sticking out from the lower frame. Water is going to get in the motor from that...
Nice setup. Is the primary battery easily removable for loading on a car bike rack?
Yes! I'm sorry that I didn't show that in this review. It is very easy to unlock and remove from the downtube. I show it in these other ones for the original chain drive + cassette models: electricbikereview.com/dost/kope/
How is this bike at climbing off-road hill trails?
Would you please review the new Specialized Turbo Como and Vado?
The shroud round the cables at the front by the handlebars , looks terrible 😣 cheers shane uk 🇬🇧
Also, are there any ebikes rated for 400+ pounds to allow mounting a 2nd seat on the rear rack?
Are you not allowed to ride this on trails or up hills in the woods over rough terrain? Does Dost tell you not to is that why you don't give it a real test ride?
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I have the original Dost, and I was delivering a food order earlier today with it. Google Maps gave me the a HORRIBLE "best route" to take. It was an off-road bike path that wasn't too bad for the first 90% - but then the last part was a small but crazy steep hill with tree roots, which made it quite bumpy. When I got to the top of it, I saw another one. The bike handled those hills, but I did wipe out because of my own bad judgment. Luckily, the customer ordered something that wasn't easy to make messy from this.
Going up those hills, I was worried about putting too much pressure on the chain and snapping it.
I really need to take that thing to the 'bike doctor' in the near future...
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I was hoping to hear more about the CVT system. It seems pretty cool not to have a chain and derailleur. But how did it shift in comparison?
You can read about it anywhere. Be advised that reviewer loves every bike he 'reviews" and other than some quibbles, will NEVER tell you the bad stuff that you need to know. The CVT is great by the way.
Hey, I have watched so many of your reviews and it is so hard to choose a bike. Help! I know exactly what a want: a bike that feels like a regular bike as much as possible, can go on bumpy pavement, dirt roads, some small path hills, and power enough that I can go up the hills in my hilly town of Port Townsend, WA. Also, availability is an issue. I found a Moustache Xroad2 in Seattle, really nice shop called Dandelion Bikes, and the owner Tyler is such a cool and helpful bike guy. But, 4K is so expensive! The Moustache is also heavy at almost 60 pounds. We also have the Rad headquarters, but although they are much less expensive, they don’t seem like that are as responsive and natural riding as the Moustache. One more thing, the bike I have had for 35 years is a Specialized Stump Jumper which I love, but my back and knees need help now. Do you have any advise? I know that Specialized has a Vado SL, but not as many people work on those motors compared to the Bosch system. Do you have any advise?
Vado SL 4
Are the tires tubeless?
Is there any way to get these on a payment plan?
So what a clean looking shifting mechanism but you didn't mention much about how it felt to use. Would you recommend it over a derailer ? Does it feel completely different and just how convenient is it to use ?
Hello. I’m lot really sure if this is the right place t7o6 ask this type of question so forgive me if it is not. I have been doing a lot of research, trying to decide on my first e bike. I am really interested in the Dost Kope CVT, Specialized Turbo Vado SL 5.0 Eq, and the Radcity 5 Plus. I really want a rear rack and am a bit worried the Specialized rack is too thin/small. However, there is the advantage of being able to buy the Specialized from my local bike shop and establishing that relationship. The Specialized is also much lighter for carrying and it looks so much more like a bicycle. There is also the brand envy as I would love to own a specialized bike. The Kope CVT has that amazing and easy belt drive, the amazing from standstill infinite shifting, and the motor cutoff when shifting. It has a really nice display They both have the optional 2nd battery I can add later. It has a really nice display. Thejh Radcity has so many amazing features for so much less money. I really like the tail light brightening when breaking. I’m not as enthused by the hub motor but I could buy 2 of them for the price of the Specialized or Dost. I am looking for the bike to be used for predominantly street and paved bike trails. I can’t drive a car due to a visual jdisability so biking is my way jto run errands or grocery shop and any other activity within 20 miles of home, to avoid Uber charges. Is there any recommendation you can make to help me to decide, or any other bike you recommend? I really appreciate your help.
Should I upgrade? I ordered the original dost but haven't received it yet. What are the main differences?
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If you upgrade you will be waiting until spring 2022. If you've got something to hold you over until then, I would say upgrade.
I was going to upgrade, but I don't have an existing ebike, , so I'm going to just hope this kope 1 arrives soon .
When are you expecting yours ?
Did you get the kope or the drop ?
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How long does the battery last
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Great infomercial!
What happened to the objectivity that you use to have?
Thanks for your feedback, I do my best to communicate trade-offs like price and weight, and point out the different level of components used, and decisions I see as compromises. You can hear that in this review and see the 16 cons listed in detail back at the full writeup here electricbikereview.com/dost/kope-cvt/ I like the DŌST bikes in general because they offer something pretty unique :)
They need to add torque sensing, then I'll buy one.
Agree. You might want to take a look at the Evelo Atlas. Basically the same features (no front basket option), but it has a Bafang M600 with both cadence and torque sensors. If I didn't have their Aurora Limited with torque only (which is good enough for now), that's what I would get.
@@emma70707 Thanks, I'll check them out.
@@emma70707 Well if you are in BC/Canada DOST is HQ is there, and EVELO won't ship to Canada so there is that. Also American dollars, Canadians getting slaughtered on the exchange rate and duties and tariffs. This why they don't ship to Canada right now. Great Ebike for Americans.
does this bike have a cadence or torque sensor?
My understanding is that it's cadence. One of the very few weak points in this bike. The other being the exposed cables at the bottom of the downtube. And imo the last being that there is no option for a more powerful motor for off-road use
@@repCanada thanks. a torque sensor would of been sweet
@@djraulcee I agree 100% and at this price it's so weird not to have it. Anyone that will pay this much for an ebike would pay an extra $100 for a torque sensor or however much they cost
Yeah, it's a speed and 24 magnet cadence sensor. The motor is a Bafang BBS02 rated at 750 watts nominal. I was told that DŌST built a prototype using the torque sensing Bafang model, but wasn't happy with the results. I'm sure they will continue to explore ongoing because Sam is a perfectionist and wants the best stuff, from what I've seen.
Would you recommend this bike above the Gazelle 380 ultimate?
Good question, I like Bosch motors and Gazelle is great, but if you want the speed pedelec, throttle, or double battery pack, then this one is perfect. The quality is good, the customer support is there, and I think the design is nice, but they do only have the one size. Those are the big factors, in my opinion :)
can the throttle be removed? I don't think I'm allowed to have a throttle on a class 3 bike where I like, but this seems like the perfect ebike otherwise.
I was wondering if you could walk me through getting my first Ebike?
Do you think you can switch out the twist grip for trigger shifters with the cvt?
I like your videos, but your stereo mic makes your voice move from right to left randomly. Might be better in mono.
Good suggestion, thank you!
I don't know why they keep building this nicely designed bike with the outdated BBS02 motor instead of moving to the advanced Bafang M600 that they use in the Crate.
You need to put up a sign "Filming in Process. Quiet Please!" 😅
Lol, my fault for choosing a busy path! Most people notice and are a little quiet when walking past, which is really great :)
What is the width of the handlebars.AND BATTERY RANGE. THANKS 🚲😎🍁
Hi Barrie! I've listed those details back in the full writeup here electricbikereview.com/dost/kope-cvt/ handlebar width is 680mm and range estimate is 30 to 60 miles per charge, or up to 120 miles if you get the second battery. It depends on your weight, the terrain, tire pressure, and level of assist or throttle being used too ;)
Buyer beware! I purchased and finally received my bike in October 2022 after months of delay.. However, due to the way the bike was strapped internally and packaged, the rear fender was cracked. I've been waiting 5 months for a replacement and now told today it will be April or May. Dost Bikes, are you serious? I was also to receive a "free" trunk bag. I've yet to receive that either. Anyone want to buy a Dost Kope CVT?.
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How much u selling it for ?
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Expensive.
Yeah, the prices have gone up a bit for DŌST, and their CVT models cost a bit more due to the Enviolo, Gates CDX, and custom frame with cutaway. Here are their other models for a bit less: electricbikereview.com/brand/dost/ or you can check this category of more affordable ebikes: electricbikereview.com/category/affordable/
Same frame as the Ride1up 700 series
Hi Mansa! It may look similar or share the same battery pack design, but most of these ebikes have some geometry changes and accessory differences. I've covered the Ride1Up 700 a while back, and it was pretty nice too. Here's my review of it electricbikereview.com/ride1up/700-series/
They don't honor the hassle free policy if you have bike issues. They basically reimburse you instead. Huge bummer. My bike is basically junk after 652.9 miles
Dost angers me. They delay my order by like six months and now come out with a new model. Order cancelled!
Welcome to the ebike world. Lots of supply issues. I bought a rad rover and 3 months later they announced a new bike coming in October. Why should research and development anger anyone? Did you ask DOST if they were coming out w a new bike and they lied? Then you should be angry. But really you should be angry at yourself for not asking.
@@flytheskymyway Wrong. I had my Juiced bike within a week after ordering. It literally took Dost longer to refund my order than it did to order and receive the Juiced.
I feel you, it's frustrating to have to wait like that. For what it's worth, I know that DŌST is trying their best with deliveries and paying extra to get shipments as fast as possible. One of the challenges is that derailleurs and cassettes are backordered industry wide. I believe that this is one of the reasons they hustled to create a CVT and belt drive solution, because those parts will be ready to ship faster. This should reduce pressure on the other components and speed up orders like yours :)
Klarna and affirm both deny me.
Ça fait vraiment dégueu les câbles.. 🙄🤔😩
That's a lot of hand movement
Noted! 😅
Now if was just loaded with cash.....
You sound like a shill for this bike. Not mentioning lack of torque and cadence sensing or the grotesque cable assembly at the front is inexcusable. I'm astonished that the makers consider this a market ready design with that ugly mess in the front. This is a design I would have expected to see in 2015, when newby manufactures were still learning-not today. Shame on you for touting this.
you didn't even ride it at high speeds.. LOL
Noisy….not good
Another giant step away from being a bicycle. Honda has a 300cc 308# adventure bike.
My money is in a Yamaha Cross Core fitted to my desire.
How is a this a step away from being a bicycle, it has the same power motor and battery as before, just now it has a carbon belt and cvt. Which Incase you were unaware is the exact same setup at the Priority Bikes Continuum Onyx. Which is....a bicycle
@@repCanada next up electric scooters or maybe with all the injury complaints how about a hot rodded Rascal??