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- The European Union's Frontex border control agency said 66,000 Russians have entered the EU in the past week. This represents a 30% increase compared with the previous week, according to the agency. It said that most of the crossings were occurring at the Finnish and Estonian sections of the border. According to Frontex, most arrivals had visas, residence permits or dual citizenship. Frontex predicted that illegal border crossings could increase if the Kremlin decides to close Russia's borders for potential conscripts. Thousands of military-age men have been leaving Russia since President Vladimir Putin announced a "partial" mobilization last week.
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It sure must be awkward trying to flee to countries russia previously invaded
right? i cannot possibly imagine the people living in Finland, Georgia and others be happy to see a bunch of Russians enter
and would be awkward if Russia ends up at war with Georgia again. There is another pipeline that goes through Georgia, and the West open a new front against Russia, via Armenia. What will be worse, is Russia hid spies and saboteurs in Georgia.
🤣 totally!
Shows how much of a basketcase Russia is lol
There's very few other places for them to go, which says a lot.
Pretty bad when the invading nation that hasn't been attacked has people fleeing
Are you kidding? They are not fleeing, they just wanted to avoid the drafting because they ain't ready to offer their lives for Putin's ambitious expansion goal
Yo for real 😂😂.
Fact 🤣🤣
Lots of cowardly men fleeing with women and children.
These countries they fled to will round them up and put them in conc-camppz.
Left to die slowly of starvation and disease.
Because majority don’t agree with the war in Ukraine
It’s funny how Russia boarders so many countries yet no one’s lining up to go to China or Belarus
Perfect reason for nuclear weapons.
@@alexoolau yes I wish all the nukes would just fly so we could see who has the best fire power America or Russia instead of talking we need examples
@@isrial7 what i'm sure about is that the american nukes will be working and hitting their targets perfectly
I think it has more to do with travelling distance. I don’t know.
Exactly
Are they against the War, or, are they against being actively involved themselves?
As the man said in the video, most of the people he meets (though that may be because he runs a specifically anti-Putin organization) actually were against the war from the beginning, they just didn't see a point in leaving Russia before, though the other large group is people who mainly just don't want to have to be sent to Ukraine themselves.
It is important to note that the people fleeing to other countries are obviously a different (I don't know if smaller or bigger) group than the people protesting the mobilization from inside Russia, who, based on their timing, are probably either mostly just against the mobilization, or anti-war people thinking post-mobilization is a good time to bolster their numbers by piggybacking on or joining with anti-mobilization sentiment.
They don't mind the war or Russia invading it's neighbours. They just don't want to fight themselves.
just like a russian man said, he don't want to kill people or either to be killed...what is the meaning of sacrficing his own life on that senseless war.
@@nexusalpha4670 and the war is only a problem when it's getting personal.
It would be like the region in the U.S. like the state of New York deciding to steal the lands of New Jersey. The head of New York would tell citizens in New York "I'm the leader of New York and my plan is to steal New Jersey. I'm ordering all men in New York to attack New Jersey to help me steal their property"
It's freaking senseless. The citizens of New York should tell their leader "hey bud - you can't just go around stealing property - why not try to BUY the land instead, and acquire it legally? And NO, SORRY, we're not attacking the innocent people in New Jersey"
Russians need to grow a pair and kick out that leader. I mean, how many innocent people have to lose their life before russians realize "It is OUR leader who has lost reality - it is OUR responsibility to solve that problem"
INSTEAD OF RUNNING TO OTHER COUNTRIES
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''Everything is going as planned". Famous last words.
Yes, for NATO also.
@@pamelajessup7931 dont cheer for a dictator abusing his own people and waging war on an innocent nation that did nothing.
Even more so on youtube, a platform banned for Russian people
They are a Nuclear power. Some country better come to their senses or Western imperialism is going to get everybody killed.
@@pamelajessup7931 lol, what?
Get ready for Saheed lgbt lover
Russia has to give back the territories it annexed from Georgia in 2008
Yeah, well, good luck with that one. If you’ve been watching what’s going on here, then you will realise that is never likely to happen.
THOSE TERRITORIES WERE NEVER ANNEXED BY RUSSIA
IT BELONGS TO MINORITY GROUP FIGHTING AGAINST GEORGIA
RUSSIA IS JUST PEACEKEEPERS
@@Lastochka720
🤓🤓
And Kaliningrad
@@jorgjorgsen7528 no point in giving Königsberg back to Germany, the city is not German anymore
Let's pray and help them the only problem is their leader,not the people of Russia, Ukraine be strong we love you from Philippines 😘🇵🇭.
They kept quiet all these months, now that their own lives are being affected they flee..
Yeah, because protesting is so easy in Russia under Putin.
At this point Russia is going to need a mobilization to keep the people from fleeing its mobilization
😂That was a great comment! I thought that you would have gotten more responses.
They have. Russia putting mobilization centers at various borders, snatching up the men trying to leave. Soon the borders will close.
Well, last time they built a huge wall with barbed wire, armed sentries and landmines to keep people locked up inside Russia and Russian-occupied areas....
That would take a Special Operation.
@@1ACL if you can’t cross the border legally, then you’re going to start looking for ways to cross it illegally
Till recently some of these same people pretended that there was no war.
They were told there was no war. No pretending. They were fed that information.
@@drivehard2395 And what u fed? :)
@@drivehard2395 They knew there was a " special operation" going on for nearly a year that had no ending. They would have stayed put had they not been affected. Only those Russians who left before this, I believe are sincere in their anti-war stance.
Because for them it was all on TV, like a movie.
Right
Russia ***invades Georgia***
Russia a few years later "PLEASE LET ME IN"
I wonder if Georgian tv shows the true picture in Ukraine. If it does these Russians are in for a shock when they see what their soldiers are really doing in Ukraine. They will pass on what they learn to friends and relatives still in Russia. The truth will out!
Georgia is totally pro-Ukraine so they can see the true picture of war from here
The concern of the Georgian's concerns are quire understandable that in years to come the Russian descendants will want parts where they settle to be part of Russia, and even doing what is happening in Ukraine, then attack and take more land by force.
Brah, that's literally a made up narrative. The attack on Ukraine was entirely Putin's initiative, there were no "Russian descendants" asking for any parts of Ukraine to become parts Russia. Of course Putin wants everyone to think that it was the "people" who wanted it, so good job helping him spread his narrative
Sheer nonsense! Why are you spreading Russophobic myths?! None of the Russians outside of Russia wants to annex territories to Russia. Why are you lying and inciting hatred for the Russians. Are you a racist?
Make Celtic and rangers play in English premier League to prevent Scotland independent🎉🎉🎉
So those Russians can never really escape who they are.
I come, I stay, i conquered?
As a person who owns a property in Georgia, this influx of people is very worrying to many Georgians; it is not just the fact that the numbers are very high, it is also wondering who is coming in - FSB? GRU? who are the people coming in? Many came in February, now when conscription arises, that number is so much more. The "government" is Russia leaning anyway, they just pay lip service to the wish to join the EU and NATO, which the Georgians majority want. With an oligarch controlling behind the scene, things were already fractious, but now it has raised much concern and alarm at the security issue. Where will they live? What will they do? How much has the cost of living increased since February? So many questions here - it is sad that people cannot fight this dictator, but Russia has had a bully in the Kremlin for over 20 years. With over 20% of Georgian land occupied by puppet governments under Russia's control, it is small already, and now the strain could be excessive. Amazing that Russia has the most land of any country, and are forcing their citizens to go to a small country which is bursting at the seams. All of my Georgian friends and neighbors are terrified for the future, it is another take over, albeit done without an army with weapons, just large numbers that may kill the whole country, and change it forever, or give Putin a reason to occupy the whole of Georgia.
Exactly what I’m thinking. Georgia doesn’t deserve this, the cost of living will go up.
russia does not occupy the people who do not want it, that's why abhazia, south Ossetia are 'occupied' while the rest of georgia is not. same for ukraine.
Most of them is rich boys, who pay well, i guess this is main reason Georgia to welcome them.What i know Georgia is very poor and corrupted right now.
@@JamesSmith-ix5jd PUTINESQUE AGENT!! . ETHNIC CLEANSING of GEORGIANS AND GREEKS BY "abkhasian and osetian liberators" like 1939 in KARELIA (FINLAND) and LITHUANIA, LATVIA and ESTONIA..... AHHHH do not forget those Poles eager to have POLAND "liberated" in 1939 by Germany and RUSSIA!!
@ Martin, Welcome to our world.
This reporter is calm and collected, great job in keeping us engaged
0.41 let the dude with the cat pass , he's a nice guy for sure :)
I'd love to hear some Georgian's opinions about this. Given the 2008 war, they shouldn't be happy about it.
it undermines Putin
@@seadkolasinac7220 And gives reason to take way more than 20% of the land.
Do not forget mass decapitations in the stadium followed by a game of football, under watchful eye of the Russian troops. Again. But worse.
I'm Georgian, so I can tell that most (whom I've asked or told me themselves) don't like Russians fleeing to our country. There are various reasons why but most obvious reason is because we genuinely dislike them due to all the wars they've caused in Georgia and Ukraine. There's also attitude problem of them rather fleeing than fixing their own damn country and giving reason to Putin in long term to possibly "liberate" Russian speaking people again. Also just large volumes of Russians coming in. In Tbilisi, you can literally walk anywhere you want and you'll hear Russian half of the time, it's as if hey are colonizing our capital which worries and angers lot of people here. We're small country with small population and influx of Russians is just tooooo much for us to handle, but our government doesn't see it that way for one reason or another... And also, don't doubt for a moment that some one them were Z and V pro-war supporters before mobilization, but when Putin called them up, they fled.
That's general attitude here, including myself.
We are mad! previous wave was tolerable, but this one has way too many pro Government cowards who run to the nation they see beneath them for shelter.
I've read enough blatant hate filled messages on Telegram to loose all respect for them
I have heard concerns that they don't want russia to use this excuse to invade Georgia.
Thank you so much Sakartvelo ( Georgia) for letting us in. We don't deserve it. I hope your territories will be freed from Russia
If you don't deserve it, just leave.
@@frixz5489 you speak for Georgians do you?
@@seadkolasinac7220 No, I'm speaking for logic.
Всё говно само сливается. Красота! 😂
@@frixz5489 Everyone thinks that.
Well done DW for the full disclosure at 2:55.))))) This is positive as it shows transparency and builds even more trust in your brand and news network. Your research too is very thorough as always.
One thing I’ve noticed is wars can be lost at the front, but can be won 🏆 at home.
Same thing happened to Russia in WW1
5 years later: Russia declares special military operations and annexes all these areas because they have a significant Russian population that they want to protect.
except Georgia joins NATO
this bs can't last 5 years- but i see your point. putin must be taken out- soon!
yep, these countries are fools for allowing these russians in.
@@ebhole not going to happen any time soon. Like a decade or more.
With lunatics in leadership it is possible.
I am against the war when the draft comes for me would be truth. Bloody shame how many stayed quiet until the draft sent them a special operations notice.
Well said !!!
@@rlr69 I doubt all of them are reservists. If a 60 year old man with diabetes can be drafted into the army, anyone can.
@@rlr69 being a protester is not veterancy status in any nation. Those are who are drafted. Breaking a window does not make me a tank commander...
be safe
Because they’re selfish bastards.
02:59 What a really rad clock. Where can I get one like that?
freedom has many difficulties and democracy is not perfect but we never had to put a wall up to keep our people in to prevent them from leaving us
They need to join the Georgia army to help defend their new home land
Silly silly boy
They'll just flee to the next country when that war breaks out, they're draft dodgers.
nahh what will happen is russia will claim the land is theirs because there are russians there and those russians will become separatists. russian nationalistic pride is strong
Some of them proceed to Armenia. Some are ethnic Georgia's and Armenians with Russian citizenship.
They will never do that..
They will run away.. they are cowards
Their values are not our values.
And will never stand and fight for it when things come to pass.
I assume all of these fleeing Russians aren't going to the Russian-occupied parts of Georgia, but the reporting is less than clear on that.
I would think Putin is smart enough to hide saboteurs in with the group, which is why they are allowed out. If I was Putin, I would be using the Azerbaijan attack on Armenia to attack the Azerbaijan pipeline, which also flow through Georgia.
near the start they show a map and they're not in the Russian areas of georgia
@@user-zy8cy6hn6o There is no such thing like "Russian areas" of Georgia. There are some Georgian areas occupied by Russia.
Do you mean South Ossetia?
@@ur-inannak9565 and Abkhazia
Do you think this will happen in Singapore if also mobilised?
I'd probably also leave, but a part of me wishes they would stay and take up arms against Putin
Oh without a doubt an uprising is overdue
Praise for those who didn’t forget when you own pets your responsible for them and took them with them instead of leaving them to starve. It’s very sad when you see homes abandoned with pets skin and bones left there
left to starve and run from the bombs...
Pets are the family , cannot leave pets to die of starvation
@@nundhlalgaya3841 sadly many do hence why so many places have street dogs ect
They’re not leaving. It’s a special border operation exercise! 😂😂
Based off this failed russian operation in Ukraine, I don't think Russia is capable of that sort of border operation. Hahaj
Nice
😂😂😂 I just fainted !
Becareful Georgia, Russians will claim new lands occupied by immigrant Russians as ethnic equivalent to Donetsk and Luhansk & vote referendums. Same in other bordering nations like Finland, Poland, Kazahkstan, etc.
I wonder if I'm the only person that wonders if some of the fighting age Russians fleeing to neighboring countries might actually be going there to be the first russian boots on the ground if Russia decides to invade those nations. Because I believe in human rights, I'd say let them in to escape conscription, but detain them or at least enforce strict controls on their movements. Hundreds of thousands of fighting age men from a country that is currently invading it's neighbour, and has a record of doing so, is something that I think people have a right to be wary of.
God Bless Ukraine. Long live Ukraine!
Putin called for partial mobilization. So some mobilized to Finland, and the other part to Georgia and Kazakstan . 😄
Read the fine print. All people who had military training are in the pool. Since russia has forced military or civil service the number of people eligible to be drafted is huge.
Correct. I have been in Sakartvelo (Georgia) a few months. Rental prices, forexample, are increasing in Tbilisi.
Can you judge them? Would you go and kill people for nothing? Would you die for nothing? For putin?
@@suminshizzles6951 aa
A referendum should be held at these points to determine if Russia should be annexed by Ukraine.
Sure all want to be in this poor corrupted SHolle, when Moscow is best city for live in 2022 UN ranking. :)
Lmao!
@@suportbghelp4938 both Ukraine and Russia are quiet high on the list for corruption.
@@suportbghelp4938 Russia isn't Moscow. Most people sent as cannon fodder to Ukraine come from poor places in the east.
@@suportbghelp4938 there are only 100,000 homeless living in the sewers in moscow.
Can we be sure there is not a third column here?
Dang!
This is very interesting lesson. You never know when you may have to flee your country to seek asylum. It is a big lesson in how each country treats people fleeing problems in their related countries.
I find it interesting that when Middle Eastern men were fleeing the Middle East during the various wars every single common section mentioned how only women and children should be allowed to leave and that the men should stay and to fight. now and every single one of these videos I never see anyone mentioning all these men running away from their country, I guess being white has its privileges
what did you learn?
@@jameslatief1 don't be a dic(tator) and be nice to your neighbors and the people you're leading
That won't ever happen in America!
@@Shyknit Yeah cause being nice gets loads done 🙄
Instead of fleeing imagine if these tens of thousands of men actually stayed in Russia, organised themselves and "protested" etc. With their military occupied in Ukraine they could overwhelm the local authorities. They could fight for a better Russia like the Ukrainians are fighting for their country.
That's not reasonable at this time. They should just leave
Imagine russia werent russia and russians werent russians? When did they fight for something other than new tzar to rule them?
70-80% of the Russian Military is not deployed, so don't think that there is no one to put down a rebellion.
@@pogo1140 most of them would be border guards or defense personnel(from a Chinese or American attack), but curious why Putin didn't rotate them. Conscripts to the border, those guards to Ukraine.
Amen to that 🙌🏽
Fair play to those fleeing. I'd do the same in that position.
Спасибо! 🙏🏻
February 2022: Ukrainians said "We don't need the ride, we just need ammunition."
September 2022: Russian said "We don't need ammunition, we need the ride out of Russia."
LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
God bless Ukrainians for stand up and fight for their freedom, their right, and their land!
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hahaha perfect😂
A wolfing Putin
😂😂😂😂
Zelensky is smart to tell the RU soldiers to surrender and they will be treated humanely. I can see a bunch of RU soldiers waving the white flag and walking across the border.
What a bunch of cowards! This shows how Putins war is a joke
Funny how they did not complain until they got called up!!!!
Because people don't want to be called to die for the sake of Putin's greed and aggression - it was the final straw to break the camel's back. Besides how do you know that they didn't protest or anything?
They were, got punished and not highlighted in the news
The wealthy run every country. The wealthy use nationalism to get the poor to die for them
You can’t complain, it is not accepted.
Because they don't want to die pointless deaths in a conflict in which they'd be seen as the villains. Wise up.
“I don’t like this, now it effects me.”
To finally get there and be turned around must be soul destroying! To be forced back to be conscripted and sent to a war you had nothing to do with. What a strain on Georgia. Too few have too much power in this world.
I'm wondering how many people try to hike across those pretty mountain ranges to freedom. Russia can't possibly have an impenetrable border given its length.
2:00 - "..if everything closes down, there will be no Japan".
This remarkably odd comment seems to come down to a poor translation of idiomatic speech. My guess is that what he said is more along the lines of "if the (Russian) borders are locked down, my plans for Japan will be canceled ".
you could translate it as "..if everything closes down, there will be no going to Japan" I guess
Or just an unpreparec FSB agent messing up his cover story
just adding [for me] would be enough to translate it correctly
Yes. That's exactly what he meant. In Russian you can say something like "больше никакой Японии", which is literally "no more Japan". But in this context it refers to previous plans about Japan.
The speaker's comment is very normal casual English. We might say something like "I'm planning to go to Hawaii, then Taiwan and then Japan. But if I can't get a visa, there will be no Japan." Yes, obviously it just means "there will be no trip to Japan", or "there will be no Japan on my itinerary". The verb "to be" does not, in this case, refer to the existence of the country per se, it refers to the presence of the country on the list, or on the itinerary.
The most shocking thing is that after Russia grabbed 20% of Georgia, Georgia has visa-free policy with russia.
Georgia is a small country with very little leverage against ruzzia. Unlike Ukraine, which is very important for Europe, Georgia is small and the US and EU don't consider is worth the fight. If Ukraine wins, this will be also a win for Georgia, which may become an EU member at the same time with Ukraine and Moldova.
Nuke war means who cares.
@@evamasters5028 what is the future of the EU without access to abundant cheap energy? Georgia is better of looking to Russia and the east.
Maybe because many Georgians work in Russia than the other way around?
@ Jonathan Jacob: gas is not everything and ruzzia has been using gas for political leverage, limiting freedom and enslaving whole countries, like Belarus. EU will be perfectly fine without Ruzzian gas, it will diversify fron other countries like Norway and North Africa, as well as new renewable sources. Ruzzia will be completely diminished at the end of this war.
Its better to run away rather than be killed.
In every major mobilisation or draft, ppl will fled . During Vietnam war draft, many Americans fled to Canada too.
Folks really don’t know just how massive the Russia border is in the world, there are literally roads with no border security you simply drive on in on the Mongolia and Kazakhstan lines
@@Elatenl Yes, but this particular Border (given its size) is the one of the Major Powers’ countries that’s less secured in the whole planet. During the Soviet Union they never thought of having a border control on their Eastern sector given their close cooperation with China. That’s all changed now.
@@Elatenl I meant to put “Massive”.
@@Elatenl you know how the U.S. Is having border control issiues? Well multiply that for Russia and you'll have a relative understanding of what Russian border security is like.
If they fled Russia through illegal border entry into other countries then they are illegal immigrants and should be arrested and deported to Russia.
I know, same with China there is a very thin metal fence between a very big part of the border between China and Russia.
Who can blame them for not wanting to be carbonized in a rusting T-34 that's been hauled out of storage?
Ouch! Succinct but…brutal.
LOL
America hadthe latest technology and still run away from Afghanistan
Yep. Relics from the Second World War, with some still being in service to this day.
@@IBTU USSR with its latest technology also ran from Afghanistan, and so what?
Is not draft dodging, is "special escape operation".
Okay, I was livingin Tbilisi when the war broke out. What an awesome and chill city! As soon as Putin invaded we were slammed with Russians seeking a way out of russia. I was paying 600USD per month in rent for a large two bedroom with a view of the city, but when the influx happened rent tripled, then quadrupled. When I moved out I looked at the listing for my apt. 2k/month. It's probably more now.
They weren’t against the war until it effected them personally
yeah
These are ordinary people, they were never interviewed and of course we have seen what happened to dissidents, now they have the platform and have voiced their opinion, how can you speak for them for a time when they were not behind the mic?
@@thabzmad7265 Idk, I’m just an American on the internet
Being against the war publicly in Russia is detrimental to keeping your head on your shoulders
@@6MAJORXWEIGHT6 exactly, you have the luxury of judging others without living their situation
or how to invade Georgia without make war....
Yeah... Russians getting a resident permit in Georgia as I saw in previous videos. Next step is to hold referendum to join Russia.
@@napoleonbonaparte4396 Georgia should not allow them to get Resident Permits.
If they act out against Georgia while in Georgia, they should be rounded up by the Truckful and dropped off at the Russian Border.
Full stop.
@@aheimdahl5201 Thank you for your advice. In general, the Georgian public knows what you are saying, but Georgian government is scared of the world. The current government has one foot in the West, and the other foot in Russia. Other than that, pressure comes from liberals in terms of the human rights. Secondly, Georgians have bad reputation since the 1990s. Anything happened in Georgia, Georgians are blamed from the world, so called political analysts and professors from the western universities.
You are right. Historically, a bunch of people settled in Georgia and then they want a piece of territory from Georgia. Gradually, Georgia is becoming smaller and smaller.
Heartbreaking
Whatever it is, though I do understand the urgent situation, I wish all safe and secure and together with their pets.
so they are concerned now because it might be them instead of someone far away where was all this concern in Feb
I never realized how many patriotic men Rus has but, aren’t they going the wrong way!
This will be a good lesson for China. If China dares to invade Taiwan how many of their conscripts are going to be heading to other borders to get away from a battle or war.
1/100 of Chinese army will be enough to cover up taiwan in Chinese bodies 2 times over.
China have nothing with Russian liberal society.Did u hear for revolution in China for 4000 years? :)
Only Western countries will accept them. Western countries are tolerant of all ethnic groups, except for Russians. This war showed the true face of Europeans
the lesson for china- if you want to take control of taiwan, after you destroy it you will be hated by the whole world.
I don’t think they would. China is more brutal. Putin is no angel but there’s no evidence that he’s committed atrocities against his own people, China had Tiannamen Square.
He would throw them into prison, China would probably execute them. Either way, I am grateful that I wasn’t born in either of those countries.
I don’t dislike the people there but I am glad not to be under their forms of government, even if I do have some criticism of my own country.
I wonder how many of these men was pro war until they got called up 🤔
The bully didn’t expect the kid to hit back hard
If these young men were as courageous as the women of Iran they would not be running away from Putin.
Wild watching the fall of the Soviet Union, the fall of Yeltsin, and now the fall of Russia.
Best thing that would happen to us Easter Europeans and Russians themselves.
I don't understand why there hasn't been a coup in Russia. I'm pretty sure nobody wants their economy to go into the garbage bag. The gazprom and oil oligarchs are suffering too and they have power to stop this. The army is getting obliterated and filled up with un-motivated conscripts. The generals are getting blamed and will be arrested/fired/executed. This is bad for EVERYONE.
Let’s hope so
@@natalias50 true.
Hey from Moscow.
All of the above disintegrations were planned by the West. You can read about this in memoirs firsthand.
Thanks
A slap in the face for Putin and his '"war cronies". Good luck to all the young people leaving Russia. I certainly hope the EU can accommodate everyone.
Idk its strange i saw videous of ukranian army take People from Street into army and catch students in the border Who try to flee country and nobody talk about It, doesnt show hundrends of pro russian videous from Telegram where they destroy ukr force no footage full lie, i realise West have so much propoganda and their Democracy is a joke
So they were fine with the war until they suddenly might get drafted...
Exactly, selfish, precious, princesses.
You know they were "fine" with it? LOL! For months most of them didn't even know a war was going on because of the misinformation they were being fed. You know what protesting Putin gets you in Russia. Prison. Death.
@@joyaustin6581 your missing the point
@@joyaustin6581 Why support a war you don't intend to fight?
@@junioradult6219 I’m a veteran. I believe it is acceptable to change your support of war if you feel your government has been deceptive or is sending you somewhere completely unprepared. Governments don’t care if individuals die, you are just a sacrificial pawn. Government is typically the wealthy upper class who send the young and lower income to die for something that is unlikely to benefit them. In a democracy everyone should be involved in decisions but reality is most of us are more focused on social and family obligations.
Let's imagine instead of running, turning up at the red square in the same numbers. Putin would end up as Ceausescu.
Putin has engineered a scared, submissive population. They'd sooner run than try and meaningfully oppose the leader.
No 😂 people who never lived in authoritarian regime are so cute and naive
Rumours are that Putin fled Moscow for his Ural Mountains bunker. It can accomodate 30.000+ people for several years so if true he'll probably be safe there - for some time.
@@Dmitry2184 💯
@@Elatenl By Ruzzian state forces. Because the Belarussian army would not shoot their own people.
Consequences of war,
2:38 wait his names Igor Corruptov?
Last one leaving, turn off the lights! (So glad to see they’re taking their pets like family ❤️)
No body is fighting. Nuke is the solution.
😂😂😂
85% in Russia agreed with the war. Now they have to be accountable to fight only to say the war is not right.
Don’t you think 60,000 is less than 15% ? Just because your not involved is why you have such short sight into the matter
Yeah and 99% of ukraine voted to join Russia. If there is ever a point in your life where the numbers never seem to add up and you need to think about why, it's when russia does "Poll's" with it's "citizens".
Where did you get that number from?
They really are Rushin’
😂
By the look of Egor’s clock, he has been doing the time warp too many times.
People, Don't die for the War Pigs, there will be no War if none of us line up to die
Another 8000+ people are crossing via mountain pass in the background 😉
one of them made it on Finland, the other... I just hope he will make it >.< on Kazakhstan or Georgia
Leaving is a radical form of a protest. And one of the most visible.
Though, you cannot leave if borders are closed.
He said, "Thanks to the Georgians for opening the border. It made it much easier for us." Poor choice of words.
But a country like Georgia has any choice against Russia even as poor as the choice of words
Georgia is also a opened door to the world. They can move from Georgia to Azerbaijan, Turkey, the Emirates,south america, .
The world is immense when you are young with energy.
@@majuscule8883 ага. Особенно когда у тебя нет денег
It will be great to have a table with numbers by country of the people fleeing.
The names of the first two across the border will be willoughby and schofield
Georgia probably would be on the first place, despite been very small country
When Putin's War started, Russia had a population 1/2 that of the USA, NOW due to conscripts fleeing, 54,000 DEAD Russian soldiers, 250,000 Russians who have immigrated elsewhere, soon Russia will be left with nothing more than OLD men and women and a population 1/4 that of the USA!
Is not draft dodging, is "special escape operation".
Yes, this outflow is no longer just a trickle. We're now hearing of "tens of thousands", How accurate is that ?
If it's an accurate estimate, it really could effect the direction of this war, but also the direction of Russian society for decades to come.
Those fleeing now appear to be from the backbone of Russian society. But again, how many ? And will it be enough to tip the scales before Putin closes the exits ?
should be saying "Access Denied"
DW, News, DW Documentary is two channels i really am happy is on youtube, so much good content!
Every Russian man that leaves his country is potentially one less man contributing to the Russian war effort (however unwillingly). Even though there are good reasons to be concerned about Russians mass immigration, I think this reason alone outweighs them.
There is 159 mil Russians. All men have 24-48 months of military training. It was always compulsory for every young man in Russia to follow army for 3 years.
@@MiladaKaiser The Russian population may be large, yet the Kremlin are still struggling to find soldiers, and people fleeing the country will not make things easier for them. Also, there are better and worse recruits from the Kremlin's perspective - some have military experience, some don't; some have 48 months of training, some have 12 (since 2008 military service is 12 months minimum, not 24).
@@MiladaKaiser so Russian men that are against Putin have enough training to actually fight for their country against their government.
@@MiladaKaiser Russia actually is less than 130m. Half of it is drunk or sick. Also the territory is too large to control.
Ahh there will always be enough in Russia
With a population of under 4 million - with potentially half a million Russian citizens in country….
What’s to stop Russia from “protecting” Russian citizens + de-nazifying the Georgian regime?
When can we expect a Georgian “referendum” to be annexed by Russia?
The fact that Russia's army is mostly growing sunflowers in Ukraine. If Russia at some future point jumps from their humiliating defeat in Ukraine to take another stab at Georgia they'll find themselves in the same predicament of facing a well armed force with an unlimited supply line from NATO.
Russophobic lies. You are now trying to justify discrimination against Russians. This is the true face of Europeans
And its 13 hours ago !!
Oh wow
How does a country survive in these modern times when all competent IT people leave?
They won't. They're an aging population with Soviet Era infrastructure. They're too busy playing war games as their cities and towns remain in the past.
@@clayton584 people have no initiative to improve their surroundings while kleptocratic government is stealing from them. How could they improve the infrastructure if the money is needed to build palaces and buy yachts for the elites? Russia has so many natural resources it could be the next Dubai if the government wasn't so greedy.
That too more than 82% of IT people are men.
@@austinscott4695 I did not know the figure, but I'm not surprised.
Serious question, is there any use for IT people in Russia's current state?
I can see both sides of this. On the one hand, let them escape so they can't add to Russian forces. On the other, force them to stay so they can agitate for change. I don't know which argument is more compelling.
Or: Let them escape, that way Russia has all the more reason to invade those countries along the border.
Both makes sense. Hard to predict the outcome either way
The first one of course because the last 20 years showed that russians are unable to overthrow their government even when it was much easier, let alone today.
Most Russians can’t leave, so I think there will still be plenty to agitate for change. That said, as Russians leave, Moscow will be forced to respond. I’d rather Russia restrict passage out of the country than us force them to stay. It will look far worse domestically and anger people even more.
The worst that would happen to them is proscution when they want to come back , because they kind of bertayed their country by not staying in russia and try to fix their country
No sure if that’s true…
Question at the border should be: “Did you support the annexation of Crimea in 2014?” It was sooo popular in Russia so it would be interesting to hear their responses. Or even thoughts on Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Sakatvelo is beautiful, the people there are so hospitable yet they don't have it easy. I am thinking of old friends there.
that IS a good question...
You omit that for the people of Crimea joining Russia in 2014 was a great thing, which THEY wanted. And they did not regret their decision.
@@larisaulkina4111 yes just as the people now with far over 90% pro-Russia votes in Ukraine. Looks like north korea voting for Kim Jong Un ahhahaha
@@jaouad_h Probably RT!
@@larisaulkina4111 Yeah, I guess the Crimean Tatars (qırımlar) thought the influx of Russians would eventually lead to something ominous. I hope it doesn’t happen to Georgia. Putin is on a Tsarist rerun but then his view of the world is rather 18th century.
Russia will not change if people just run instead of fighting Putin
Primarily those who can afford it leave Russia, they are probably also educated and skilled people. Putin is leaving Russia with an uneducated and unskilled population, this war is a total "brain drain" for Russia.
Russia was doomed the moment vodka hit the glass
Do they oppose putin or just don’t want to be conscripted?
You think it’s that easy uh ?
@@artephank Good question.
Thanks from Canada. DW from Germany provides very good coverage of the Ukrainian - Russia war.
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Kanaduh. You have your own problems.
AT LEAST THEY ARE GETTING GODS CHILDREN
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DW is another reason we must always resist calls to defund the CBC. Public broadcasting is more important than ever! NO MORE WAR!
Result of military mobilization in Russia
300.000 reservists + 480.000 volunteers
This is so terrible. Such disruption.
Now actually Russians have opportunity to conduct referendum in Georgia and annex some more territories
don't give ideas to putin :D
That's what i was thinking, too. Wherever Russians go, Putin deems it okay to invade.
Its a trojan horse indeed
Russia has already got 20% of Georgia when they invaded in 2008, what makes you think they'll need more?
@@EnriquePerezBarahona Really? Then I feel sorry for China. There have been millions of Russians living in China now
"I don't approve of the war" = "I'm terrified of dying for Poooti in Ukraine!"
I don't know that terrified is the right word for not wanting to die for a despot's narcissism.
I mean, they're still taking volunteers. Go sign your name, if you think everyone else are cowards.
@@rob6850 did they protest when russia annexed Crimea? Or when russia, oh irony, annexed part of Georgia? Georgians are saints letting all those russians in, taking into account atrocities russians committed there not that long ago
@@travispaskiewicz2663 I don't have the misfortune of being a Poootinista. Have you signed up as a volunteer, then?
No, I thought not.
@@artephank With an open border, I don't think that the Georgians have a choice.
As to atrocities, every nation has a subset of evil thugs. It's just that culturally-militaristic and religionist societies seem to have a higher proportion of contemptible, chest-thumping bullies.
If they aren't willing to fight for their country, they most likely won't fight for Georgia either. Once Russia invades Georgia, they are running back to Russia or running to another country, giving Georgia the middle finger after helping them.
Exactly.. genetic garbage..
thousands of men.. kilometres of queues.., where exactly??!!..
I imagine prices will increase nearest the Russia-Georgia border as there is more demand for basic necessities
Georgia should be careful as Putin may hold another referendum thereand annex it because of new russian citizens
Russophobic nonsense
@@user-mj7dt8of8e Russophia is ok in the west
@@user-mj7dt8of8e phobe means scared, yes people are scared of putin he is a pleb lets go brandon
@@user-mj7dt8of8e it makes plenty sense seeing the support for stealing land in Russia
@@user-mj7dt8of8e haha.. Ofcourse it's russophobic for you when West talking sense
68.11 million (2019) Men in Russia this is nothing on who is leaving.
Show the lines of cars or bleat down