The second image came out very nicely, better than I expected. Also I used a piece of plastic for bulb on my Holga 120 before I got the cable release. You can inset something in the shutter button when its pressed down so its stuck. Just put on a lens cap before doing it and use that as the shutter.
I did play around with other Holga bulb solutions and they were done for long exposures but very often I wanted just a second so o cracked and bought another proper adapter.
Gorgeous images as always. I agree with Tony too that heavy bags shtick made me chuckle quite a bit! Thanks too for providing some of the exposure informaiton. I shot Rollei IR in 6x6 and got some lovely results. Then I tried it in 4x5 and it was terrible for some reason. But gives me reason to give it another go!
Very wise use of blue tag. Should I buy blue tag for mirrorless camera then? Thank you for sharing your video. It is nice to see and hear you. Encouraging to try creativity without buying new gear!
I found your video very interesting because I use two 120 roll-film pinhole cameras: the Holga 120WPC and the Zero Image. I shoot 6x9cm black & white images in both. Until this video, I had never considered shooting infrared film because the slow and expensive film, pinhole f/stops of f/222, film reciprocity failure, and a 12-stop infrared filter would require an exposure time that would be way too long for my patience.
I’ve used both those pinhole cameras too but I ended up converting the Holga into a 6x12 ultra wide with 65mm lens. I’d like to try IR pinhole again but next time allow for a lot longer exposures.
I enjoyed a number of elements of this video:, your experimenting, your humor, and your commentary on your results, just to name a few wonderful things. By the way, I, too, like the tree at 7:01. ☺
I've made myself a really small pinhole plate for my 4x5" Graflex, and surprisingly, the 8x10" prints I get are £100-chinese-smarthpone-camera sharp. So basically they're better than pinhole. Which I was surprised about. So then I tried that same pinhole on a cardboard box with some 8x10" paper inside to get giant negatives and yet again, that was even sharper. Considering the pinhole was something like f/1000 or that, few minutes exposure but yet I got a really sharp photo, and rather well-exposed too, even if it was just a test. I might go out and try some pinhole AND infrared myself too. Won't hurt.
Great video Steve, love the images in this. I often visit Bulkeley hill and have been trying to get that shot to work a few times but never seem to get something I'm happy with. It looked absolutely superb in infrared/pinhole, I think I'm going to attempt again in autumn.
That row of trees are lovely Paul. I took the original Hasselblad shot on the 1st October 2011 when it was very hot and sunny so I’d say the best light isn’t far off.
You can get a Holga cable release adapter on eBay from HolgaMods (or off his website). I just loaded up my Zero Image 2000 with some Rollei IR too. I hope to go out this weekend shooting.
Problem is that diffraction increases with wavelength. So infrared will be VERY blurry. It could maybe work on something like 8x12 which as so much definition that the diffraction softness is negated. But shooting with a pinhole on smaller formats is a bad idea (IR especially). Unless maybe you're shooting in UV, which, having shorter wavelengths, reduces diffraction.
Now I know why you compared infrared pinhole to combining larger and cider. The images are how things used to look when I drank snakebite (don't forget the vodka top). Love the video Steve and that you showed my favorite IR image (although only briefly). Do you not fancy trying infrared with a Lensbaby on one of your Nikon's?
Watch out for the Lensbaby Spark for the Nikon. It's more basic than the one I showed you but a lot cheaper. The effect is similar to a really bad Holga; the one with the plastic lens that melts if left in the sun 😂
I’m pleased to say that the new ones vignette as badly as ever and back fell off on our last trip ruining a couple of frames in the time honoured fashion.
Hi Steve, I have a question - well two for you about the Rollei film R72 filter and pinhole camera combination. First of all, do I need to load the film in the dark? I see conflicting suggestions on line. Secondly, I am using it with a f/160 pinhole camera; RSS 6x6 and the Pinhole Assistant app on my phone. If I use ASA 6 or 12 would I be in a similar range to what you did with your Zero? I have that camera as well and the times seem similar. I will bracket the photos as well. I plan to use this for World Wide Pinhole Day - away from any people when I go out for my exercise. Thank you in advance for your advise.
Hi Wendy. You don’t need to be in darkness to load this film, subdued light is fine and I usually shade the camera while loading it. Your exposure times would be similar to mine, the Zero image 2000 is f/138 so just add a bit more. I use EI 6 as the starting point (R72) and usually overexposed a second shot +1 but I did find the pinhole images a bit thin and should really have doubled my times at the very least.
Great video Steve. Have you ever done a video where you actually demonstrate how to load and use a pinhole camera? Sort of a beginners tutorial? Did you make your own pinhole camera or can you buy them?
Hi Philip. I will show a close up next time I’m out with the pinhole. The one I use is made by Zero image and has a very precise laser cut pinhole. Home made pinholes are fun but usually too blurry for my liking. You can actually buy high quality pinholes and adapt them to all sorts of contraptions right up to 20”x24” models that use photographic paper to capture the image.
Hey! That tree behind you at 7:01 ...? Great to see the Zero with infrared. Got me itchy to throw my pinhole in the bag and head out this weekend. Thanks again for the great content, best regards.
yeah,,, i was saying the same,,, look back,,, look at that tree, what an awesome subject to shot... but you did not see it,,, please go back if you ever have the chance...
Thanks for a great video - and lovely shots I think. I recently added infrared to my pinhole photography myself. And yes the exposure is really tricky (I underexposed it quite a bit even if I actually did like some of my shots for the mood). It was also my experience that the IR effect wasn’t particularly interesting, so I’m wondering if the very long exposures cause a problem? I used Ilford SfX by the way.
It was a bit lacklustre Morten and I should have gone for at least a five minute exposure. It would probably have been more effective if I’d had some of the old Efke Aura film.
Interesting looking clock in the background wall. Why don't you share some of the development process of possible, should be interesting to watch. Thanks for the video.
Hi everyone! I'm falling in love with pinhole photography and I really want to try the infrared style with the pinhole. But, how should I process my B&W film?
Hi Steve, I have the Zero Image 612D with the filter mount. I used it in 6x9 with the Rollei Superpan 200 and a 720nm filter. Exposure times a few minutes, calculated with the app PhotoPills. you may find examples here www.flickr.com/photos/dierktopp/49126838046/in/album-72157693791625582/ and here www.flickr.com/photos/dierktopp/46793584844/in/album-72157693791625582/
Do you feel like you need a cable release for the zero? I want a 2000, can get one for £100 without the cable release or £180 with it, the price jump seems high to me, not sure if it’s worth it
It is too much Ben and I’ve never felt the need for one providing you press down on the camera gently when sliding the shutter out of the way. You can adjust the shutter too and make it very smooth - just make sure it doesn’t open too easily (blu tac to the rescue)
Steve O'Nions that’s what I was thinking. I can always buy the cable release and fit it if I really want it. I already have a pinhole bodycap I made for my mamiya 645 but the weight and size puts me off taking it if I just want to do pinhole. Cheers for getting back, love the videos :)
bought the camera, its brilliant! dont regret not getting the cable release. one quick question, how do you compose with it? I took it out last sunday and even with using the included plastic viewfinder/window it came out a lot wider than i expected. i was often too far away from the subject i was photographing.
Glad you like the camera Ben. It is quite hard to compose with and equates to something like 14mm in full frame terms. I sometimes use my action cam to get get a feel for the shot as this is about 18mm but generally I ensure I get as close as possible and don’t worry about losing detail at the edges. There’s also the option of shooting wide open spaces with just one or two objects to break up the emptiness such as rocks. The best way is just to get out and shoot and sometimes the ones that don’t come out as you expect are the best!
To be honest it isn’t that photogenic Jeff, I’ve tried working out an angle on it many times but it just doesn’t line up to my eye. Maybe I need to get the drone up there and see if it looks better from on high.
I do have problems when confronted with an image where nothing is in sharp focus and nothing is really black. I'm not trying to lay down the law - that statement simply reflects where I'm at just now. Even so, I thought your image of the tree and the path had something. It's just that when I look a second tim,e there's no detail to hold my attention. Food for thought... It's a priviledge to watch your experiment, Thankyou
It is tricky David and whilst I wasn’t convinced by the images this time I also don’t want to fall into the trap of always making sharp images just because I can. I also try to avoid the oft quoted practice of getting a pure white and solid black in every image.
It’s people like you that keep the art going
I should be getting funded from the National Lottery 😀
The second image came out very nicely, better than I expected.
Also I used a piece of plastic for bulb on my Holga 120 before I got the cable release.
You can inset something in the shutter button when its pressed down so its stuck.
Just put on a lens cap before doing it and use that as the shutter.
I did play around with other Holga bulb solutions and they were done for long exposures but very often I wanted just a second so o cracked and bought another proper adapter.
Thank you for the insights and sharing you knowledge!
You’re very welcome.
"...That turned out really well..." might have been the funniest thing I've seen in a while. Thank you for that and another great video.
Gorgeous images as always. I agree with Tony too that heavy bags shtick made me chuckle quite a bit! Thanks too for providing some of the exposure informaiton. I shot Rollei IR in 6x6 and got some lovely results. Then I tried it in 4x5 and it was terrible for some reason. But gives me reason to give it another go!
Thanks Tim, it is one of my favourite films and also makes a good non IR material if used without a filter.
Curious have you tried stand developing it?
That’s next on my list 😀
Very wise use of blue tag. Should I buy blue tag for mirrorless camera then?
Thank you for sharing your video. It is nice to see and hear you. Encouraging to try creativity without buying new gear!
Thank you 🙂
Very interesting post. I thoroughly enjoyed it and the results.
Thanks Joshua.
Highly entertaining as always, that's inspired me to get out the pinhole, if not the infra red. Thanks!
Thanks Charles, definitely 90% of the effect was from the pinhole.
I found your video very interesting because I use two 120 roll-film pinhole cameras: the Holga 120WPC and the Zero Image. I shoot 6x9cm black & white images in both.
Until this video, I had never considered shooting infrared film because the slow and expensive film, pinhole f/stops of f/222, film reciprocity failure, and a 12-stop infrared filter would require an exposure time that would be way too long for my patience.
I’ve used both those pinhole cameras too but I ended up converting the Holga into a 6x12 ultra wide with 65mm lens.
I’d like to try IR pinhole again but next time allow for a lot longer exposures.
Nostalgia in it's finest form. Thanks for sharing
Thanks Tony.
Nice with the young, fit, and heavy bags retakes...;)
Great Video did make me chuckle. I agree it is good to experiment.
I enjoyed a number of elements of this video:, your experimenting, your humor, and your commentary on your results, just to name a few wonderful things. By the way, I, too, like the tree at 7:01. ☺
That tree is going to have to get its own video now Jami 😀
I've made myself a really small pinhole plate for my 4x5" Graflex, and surprisingly, the 8x10" prints I get are £100-chinese-smarthpone-camera sharp. So basically they're better than pinhole. Which I was surprised about. So then I tried that same pinhole on a cardboard box with some 8x10" paper inside to get giant negatives and yet again, that was even sharper. Considering the pinhole was something like f/1000 or that, few minutes exposure but yet I got a really sharp photo, and rather well-exposed too, even if it was just a test.
I might go out and try some pinhole AND infrared myself too. Won't hurt.
I need to get out and try large format pinhole, I do have a 4x5 model somewhere and would like a go at 8x10 too.
Arhh, snakebite! I remember it well.... I think. Great vlog once again Steve.
Thanks Barry 🍻
Really interesting video! I've not seen many videos focusing in on this before. Great stuff Steve
Thanks James.
Great video Steve, love the images in this. I often visit Bulkeley hill and have been trying to get that shot to work a few times but never seem to get something I'm happy with. It looked absolutely superb in infrared/pinhole, I think I'm going to attempt again in autumn.
That row of trees are lovely Paul. I took the original Hasselblad shot on the 1st October 2011 when it was very hot and sunny so I’d say the best light isn’t far off.
Interesting vid Steve enjoyable watch 👍🏼
Thanks 🙂
You can get a Holga cable release adapter on eBay from HolgaMods (or off his website).
I just loaded up my Zero Image 2000 with some Rollei IR too. I hope to go out this weekend shooting.
I cracked and bought an original release from a seller in Japan Jeremy, it works a treat.
Thanks a lot for your effort, very nice!
Problem is that diffraction increases with wavelength. So infrared will be VERY blurry. It could maybe work on something like 8x12 which as so much definition that the diffraction softness is negated. But shooting with a pinhole on smaller formats is a bad idea (IR especially). Unless maybe you're shooting in UV, which, having shorter wavelengths, reduces diffraction.
With pinhole I’m always looking for softness so anything that adds to that is a bonus (especially as the Zero image can be annoyingly sharp!).
@@SteveONions I see.
Now I know why you compared infrared pinhole to combining larger and cider. The images are how things used to look when I drank snakebite (don't forget the vodka top). Love the video Steve and that you showed my favorite IR image (although only briefly). Do you not fancy trying infrared with a Lensbaby on one of your Nikon's?
Ah, I had never thought about using the Lensbaby with IR, I must look out for a cheap one.
Watch out for the Lensbaby Spark for the Nikon. It's more basic than the one I showed you but a lot cheaper. The effect is similar to a really bad Holga; the one with the plastic lens that melts if left in the sun 😂
I’ll have to look out for one going cheap, I could get 4 holgas for the price of a new one 😀
Ha ha! Depends if they are the original antique Holga or not. The originals were the best.
I’m pleased to say that the new ones vignette as badly as ever and back fell off on our last trip ruining a couple of frames in the time honoured fashion.
Began experimenting with infra red this summer. Nothing a sophisticated as a pinhole camera, just a low tech DSLR with an IR 850 filter 😂
Digital IR is great fun Eltin, I have a couple of converted cameras and often take on on holiday with me. Hope you enjoy shooting with it 😀👍
what an interesting video!
always nice to try something diffrent :D
thanks for sharing this with us
really enjoyed watching this
In times when people complain about lens sharpness U making soft Masterpiece, great shots Take care
Thanks Kamil.
Fascinating! :-)
Hi Steve, I have a question - well two for you about the Rollei film R72 filter and pinhole camera combination. First of all, do I need to load the film in the dark? I see conflicting suggestions on line. Secondly, I am using it with a f/160 pinhole camera; RSS 6x6 and the Pinhole Assistant app on my phone. If I use ASA 6 or 12 would I be in a similar range to what you did with your Zero? I have that camera as well and the times seem similar. I will bracket the photos as well. I plan to use this for World Wide Pinhole Day - away from any people when I go out for my exercise. Thank you in advance for your advise.
Hi Wendy. You don’t need to be in darkness to load this film, subdued light is fine and I usually shade the camera while loading it. Your exposure times would be similar to mine, the Zero image 2000 is f/138 so just add a bit more.
I use EI 6 as the starting point (R72) and usually overexposed a second shot +1 but I did find the pinhole images a bit thin and should really have doubled my times at the very least.
@@SteveONions Thank you for all of those very helpful suggestions. I will give them a try.
You’re welcome Wendy.
Great video Steve. Have you ever done a video where you actually demonstrate how to load and use a pinhole camera? Sort of a beginners tutorial? Did you make your own pinhole camera or can you buy them?
Hi Philip. I will show a close up next time I’m out with the pinhole. The one I use is made by Zero image and has a very precise laser cut pinhole. Home made pinholes are fun but usually too blurry for my liking. You can actually buy high quality pinholes and adapt them to all sorts of contraptions right up to 20”x24” models that use photographic paper to capture the image.
Hey! That tree behind you at 7:01 ...? Great to see the Zero with infrared. Got me itchy to throw my pinhole in the bag and head out this weekend. Thanks again for the great content, best regards.
Glad you enjoyed it 😀
yeah,,, i was saying the same,,, look back,,, look at that tree, what an awesome subject to shot... but you did not see it,,, please go back if you ever have the chance...
I’ll get it next time 🙂
Thanks for a great video - and lovely shots I think. I recently added infrared to my pinhole photography myself. And yes the exposure is really tricky (I underexposed it quite a bit even if I actually did like some of my shots for the mood). It was also my experience that the IR effect wasn’t particularly interesting, so I’m wondering if the very long exposures cause a problem? I used Ilford SfX by the way.
It was a bit lacklustre Morten and I should have gone for at least a five minute exposure. It would probably have been more effective if I’d had some of the old Efke Aura film.
Very fun video. Did you end up cropping the second image. I like it BTW. Not boring at all.
Hardly cropped it at all Wendy, I quite liked the open feeling it had.
Interesting looking clock in the background wall. Why don't you share some of the development process of possible, should be interesting to watch. Thanks for the video.
I’ll be doing videos on my process and equipment later his year 👍
I would be lost without my Blu-Tack, I have a B&W Orange filter attached to my Kodak Retinette right now.
The best (and lightest) filter holder in the world!
Hi everyone! I'm falling in love with pinhole photography and I really want to try the infrared style with the pinhole. But, how should I process my B&W film?
Process as you would for any other film Matteo, just make sure you give plenty of exposure when shooting.
@@SteveONions Oh wow! Thank you Steve! I hope I'll try this on a little trip to Tuscany in April
Another great video and my kind of humor 😂
Why not put the filter inside the camera? It seems like the pinhole would partially “focus” on the surface of the gel.
I’ve never tried that Rusty, it may work but I couldn’t choose to shoot without the filter then.
Hi Steve,
I have the Zero Image 612D with the filter mount. I used it in 6x9 with the Rollei Superpan 200 and a 720nm filter. Exposure times a few minutes, calculated with the app PhotoPills.
you may find examples here
www.flickr.com/photos/dierktopp/49126838046/in/album-72157693791625582/
and here
www.flickr.com/photos/dierktopp/46793584844/in/album-72157693791625582/
Thanks Dierk.
I enjoyed the photos. Inspires me to try new things.
Thanks David.
Do you feel like you need a cable release for the zero? I want a 2000, can get one for £100 without the cable release or £180 with it, the price jump seems high to me, not sure if it’s worth it
It is too much Ben and I’ve never felt the need for one providing you press down on the camera gently when sliding the shutter out of the way. You can adjust the shutter too and make it very smooth - just make sure it doesn’t open too easily (blu tac to the rescue)
Steve O'Nions that’s what I was thinking. I can always buy the cable release and fit it if I really want it. I already have a pinhole bodycap I made for my mamiya 645 but the weight and size puts me off taking it if I just want to do pinhole. Cheers for getting back, love the videos :)
bought the camera, its brilliant! dont regret not getting the cable release. one quick question, how do you compose with it? I took it out last sunday and even with using the included plastic viewfinder/window it came out a lot wider than i expected. i was often too far away from the subject i was photographing.
Glad you like the camera Ben. It is quite hard to compose with and equates to something like 14mm in full frame terms. I sometimes use my action cam to get get a feel for the shot as this is about 18mm but generally I ensure I get as close as possible and don’t worry about losing detail at the edges.
There’s also the option of shooting wide open spaces with just one or two objects to break up the emptiness such as rocks.
The best way is just to get out and shoot and sometimes the ones that don’t come out as you expect are the best!
First image worked well with square format, other less so interesting.
It was a bit hit and miss but fun trying.
I think you missed that tree 7 minutes in 😐
To be honest it isn’t that photogenic Jeff, I’ve tried working out an angle on it many times but it just doesn’t line up to my eye. Maybe I need to get the drone up there and see if it looks better from on high.
I do have problems when confronted with an image where nothing is in sharp focus and nothing is really black. I'm not trying to lay down the law - that statement simply reflects where I'm at just now. Even so, I thought your image of the tree and the path had something. It's just that when I look a second tim,e there's no detail to hold my attention.
Food for thought... It's a priviledge to watch your experiment, Thankyou
It is tricky David and whilst I wasn’t convinced by the images this time I also don’t want to fall into the trap of always making sharp images just because I can. I also try to avoid the oft quoted practice of getting a pure white and solid black in every image.
If I remember correctly, it was called a snake bite 😏
My head hurts just remembering it Derek.
you never did say which exposure you used
It was the longest exposure in every case, I would have preferred even a stop more.