I think the angle of the camera partly causes our bad view of his neko ashi dachi but I must aggree that many times his stances are very high. Which shows mostly in his neko ashi dachi and his shiko dachi.
si pero si miras bien hay una cosita que creo que los arbitos tambien se dieron cuenta, HUvo dos instantes a donde antonio no tuvo la misma explosion que en el resto de kata, Valdesi estuvo la misma explosion en cada technica....mira el guedan barrai en la 2nda mitad del kata, te daras cuenta
lucas valdesi es lo mejor y simplemente antonio es excelente pero deberia probar hacer un kata de karate tradicional es la raiz del karate.. bravo por ambos
@JellyChang i think you are some other style from goju ryu. lucas is goju . iam a shito ryu style.but i think goju usually bend their back leg and then kick higher than the other styles dear. so i think that is their rule. what you think ?????
tanto Valdesi como Diaz estuvieron imprecisos y algo desequilibrados en los katas pero creo q la desicion radica en la mala sincronizacion en el salto de antonio diaz
only his stances in nippaipo and Annan are ok, so i can understand he won with those kata. As Gogen Yamaguchi wrote, "when stance wrong, everything wrong! If you are not in right stance you are not doing kata, only doing movements!" WKF judges however not judging on probable effectiveness, mostly judging presentation and sharpness (which he has). His kata is better than mine. But i feel sorry for those kata players who have great kata (and effectiveness because they have great stances).
i learned all of the katas except for a couple of the most advanced ones (ex; kururunfa i havent memorized). "True" karate teaches SELF DEFENSE, and the "meditating and uniting" one receives is only a secondary or tertiary aspect and is a personal experience. I dont wish to gain this from "true karate" if this "true karate" isnt about self defense.
@cheekusri143 I actually practice shotokan. Lucas is obviously shotokan, the kata that he is doing is called gankaku. Goju does not have gankaku and considering it does not have the "typical starting position as goju.
Solo queda decir VEAN EL VIDEO EN CAMARA LENTA y se daran cuenta de los detalles de cada competidor, para mi el ganador es Antonio aparte del dominio tecnico expresa mas espiritualidad en su ejecucion, el otro es OK solo eso VEAN EN CAMARA LENTA PARA QUE DETALLEN LO QUE EL OJO HUMANO NO LOGRA VER
i think diaz is slight unconfortable with chatanyara this time.i think he didnt concentrate in his stances. i think cat stance niffin is not exact. lucas was amazing. he rocked in chinto.
Its of much use. Do you not see the explosiveness, the body discipline, and precision. Also Karate kata exist of a library of techniques. each movement has close to 3-5 explinatins/ applications/ techniques to them. Studying karate is learning the kata then breaking down each technique. it is where all the self defense, technical philosophies, and artform lay.
@4artes I know is changing but the basic never deviate as much from the traditional LOL~ Indeed, even look at his feet, you can tell that he does not rotate at the heel of the feet which you are suppose to and Lucas rotate using the toes of his feet :( Also, one of his Unsu that he did, he did not block fully~ Michael Milon is a much better karate ka then him~
surely the empi's @ 1..05 has to be wrong....? the hand cannot fold into the arm, the elbow has to goes towards the hand ...? and when you have 2 karateka of this ability little points like this decides who wins and who loses.
yes he is good, but number 2 in the world? What message does this send to kids? That stances don't count as long as you're fast. If a stance is bad, the technique is weak. he is very very fast, but i think we can all agree, when we shorten and raise our stances, its much easier to move faster. Others do correct stances and as such, move slightly slower, then get punished for doing it right. he has always competed this way & refuses to change because judges continue to reward him for it.
pues con todo y el minimo desekilibrio de luca no se puede negar q su kata fue mejor soy de venezuela (shotokan) y considero q los katas shoto tienen mucho mas nivel q los kata shito
LOL~ As what I heard from my sensi, which is a 8th dan from Japan, he said that Luca is no that good actually. Pay attention to his feet, he always lift his heel up, which you are not suppose to :( Also, the yoko geri keage suppose to be chudan but he did it as jodan and but his back fist strike was chudan where suppose to be jodan to the tempo :(
y xq defienden tanto antonio karatemiramar? el es bueno pero el sabe que para ser campeon mundial tiene un contrincante super fuerte digan lo que digan tiene que trabajar como lo viene haciendo
@miguel29092 sin animo de ofender.. ignorancia acaso??? ballet jajaja por Dios.... es que es necesario saber un poquito para disfrutar de el espectáculo que son las katas!!!!
Yes.... now look at the results (4-1) of resently US Open 2009... Díaz by far is Better...much more kime and you can see this...Valdesi is good and have a long history...but Diaz is much better...
Clearly you have never trained true karate in which there is not just kicking and punching. Kata techniques contain within them many more rounded techniques and even grappling. And ultimately it is a way of meditating and uniting the mind, body and spirit.
How did Diaz get to the final? His hands are very sharp. But his stances are beyond appalling. He is almost standing up every time. With no stance, all techniques lose their effectiveness. You could push him over at any time. His neko-ashi dachi does not protect the groin and is way too high. His shiko-dachi would have no take-down defense capability and would not add strength to any strike. His zenkutsu-dachi strikes would be completely useless with that stance. 1/10.
wow i used to do this back in grade 7 when i got my blackbelt and then i quit. 5 years later i realize how gay it really was. I can't believe people waste their time doing this shit.
BRAVO l arbitrage, voila ce qui s appelle faire gagner un palmares plutot qu un kata!!oui valdesi est tres fort, mais sur cette finale, non non et non désolé, ya qd une petite perte d equilibre que seuls les hypocrites diront ne pas avoir vu! j adore lucas mais là désolé le champion du monde c diaz et largement, c etait surement le dernier championnat du monde pour ces deux là, antonio n aura jamais ete champion du monde alor que c est un shito ryu hors paire, je suis degouté pour lui.
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te felicito negro por el videito que te subiste ,muchas gracias y que lindo que lo hayas subido vos
Luca & Antonio, great final! Congratulations to both of you.
Thank you so much for the post!!!
Oss!
Two of the best ever! What a great experience it would have been to be there.
Absolutely fabulous Gankaku!
I think the angle of the camera partly causes our bad view of his neko ashi dachi but I must aggree that many times his stances are very high. Which shows mostly in his neko ashi dachi and his shiko dachi.
3-2 es justo pero la victoria es de Valdesi!!! E' immenso.. non c'è niente da fare.. il suo gankaku è unico! è troppo marziale
Antonio won 4:1 Luca yesterday here in Belgrade. It was amazing watching that, both kata. I think Antonio deserved victory.
si me imaginaba tu sentimiento al ver este video,un abrazo grande,
oss!
Man, he must hit hard. Take a look at Michael Milon's executions, he is one hell of a karateka too.
me parece que son dos grandes representates de su estilo, y dos grandes en general, no sabria decir quien es mejor, de verdad
Luca Valdesi is my Idol in KATA.. especially when he play Gankaku
el kata de antonio diaz tienes unos cuantos aspectos basados en el kanku-dai shotokan cuando hace el ultimo movimiento
si pero si miras bien hay una cosita que creo que los arbitos tambien se dieron cuenta, HUvo dos instantes a donde antonio no tuvo la misma explosion que en el resto de kata, Valdesi estuvo la misma explosion en cada technica....mira el guedan barrai en la 2nda mitad del kata, te daras cuenta
y antonio en su brinco cayó primero con los pies y luego las manos
tarefa difícil dos árbitros, o domínio que esses dois tem é impressionante...
casi se pego un palo en la 2 patada, este mundial ya merecia ser de antonio
I agree, I think Diaz's kata has more substance to it.
pelee o baile es un semerendo papasito....mmmmmmmmmmmmm..un orgullo venezolano...
lucas valdesi es lo mejor y simplemente antonio es excelente pero deberia probar hacer un kata de karate tradicional es la raiz del karate.. bravo por ambos
@4artes Thanks. are you karate ka
@JellyChang i think you are some other style from goju ryu. lucas is goju . iam a shito ryu style.but i think goju usually bend their back leg and then kick higher than the other styles dear. so i think that is their rule. what you think ?????
tanto Valdesi como Diaz estuvieron imprecisos y algo desequilibrados en los katas pero creo q la desicion radica en la mala sincronizacion en el salto de antonio diaz
only his stances in nippaipo and Annan are ok, so i can understand he won with those kata. As Gogen Yamaguchi wrote, "when stance wrong, everything wrong! If you are not in right stance you are not doing kata, only doing movements!" WKF judges however not judging on probable effectiveness, mostly judging presentation and sharpness (which he has). His kata is better than mine. But i feel sorry for those kata players who have great kata (and effectiveness because they have great stances).
i learned all of the katas except for a couple of the most advanced ones (ex; kururunfa i havent memorized). "True" karate teaches SELF DEFENSE, and the "meditating and uniting" one receives is only a secondary or tertiary aspect and is a personal experience. I dont wish to gain this from "true karate" if this "true karate" isnt about self defense.
of what use is this to you in real life?
@cheekusri143
I actually practice shotokan. Lucas is obviously shotokan, the kata that he is doing is called gankaku. Goju does not have gankaku and considering it does not have the "typical starting position as goju.
oss Amigo Tienes
yes
mmm... interesante ya lo habia conosido pero seria fantastico aprenderlo tal vez no a un punto maximo pero con un 40% vastaria en las calles
Solo queda decir VEAN EL VIDEO EN CAMARA LENTA y se daran cuenta de los detalles de cada competidor, para mi el ganador es Antonio aparte del dominio tecnico expresa mas espiritualidad en su ejecucion, el otro es OK solo eso VEAN EN CAMARA LENTA PARA QUE DETALLEN LO QUE EL OJO HUMANO NO LOGRA VER
i think diaz is slight unconfortable with chatanyara this time.i think he didnt concentrate in his stances. i think cat stance niffin is not exact. lucas was amazing. he rocked in chinto.
Kapan ya....Luca Valdesi atau Bang Antonio Diaz bisa meragakan Ilmunya di Dojo Lemkari Kertajaya Surabaya....heheheh...manstabs deh
muy buenos videos
yo tambien pertenesco a aska
pero de santiago de chile
bye
me fasinan las katas de antonio pero creo que valdesi es otro nivel.
y cuando los subes?
@miguel29092 y es q hay gente q todavia no sabe lo q es el karate... como tu :/
yo concordo com tu..Diaz 2010!
oss
valdesi è il migliore!...fiero di essere italiano
Valdesi hace historia!
Its of much use. Do you not see the explosiveness, the body discipline, and precision. Also Karate kata exist of a library of techniques. each movement has close to 3-5 explinatins/ applications/ techniques to them. Studying karate is learning the kata then breaking down each technique. it is where all the self defense, technical philosophies, and artform lay.
Antonio Díaz el Nuevo campeón mundial en kata masculino individual
ese man nacio pa esto su estilo es unico es el mejor ese lucas unque antonio es bueno lucas es mejor
QUien sabe ?¿ ...
HAy muchos aspirantes a la corona de Valdesi ...
Pero el mejor aspirante sin duda es Antonio DIaz ...
AL rayo ...
bueno eso es criterio de cada quien... o a lo mejor gana cuando valdesi se retire xq el es mas joven..
@4artes
I know is changing but the basic never deviate as much from the traditional LOL~ Indeed, even look at his feet, you can tell that he does not rotate at the heel of the feet which you are suppose to and Lucas rotate using the toes of his feet :( Also, one of his Unsu that he did, he did not block fully~ Michael Milon is a much better karate ka then him~
Luca was f*ckin awesome. Wow
I was at the US Open to...Diaz is now more better than Valdesi ( I think ).
El latino está a otro nivel que el iberoamericano.
No...no lo supera Valdesi. El es el mejor de todos!!! He hecho uno stage con el y puedo decir que es fantastico!!!!
@shotokantkic Oh i see gankaku is nice ,are u shotokan
claro que es posible! pero me molesta no verlo peleando en ningun lado me gustaria verle quince golpes seguidos a un oponente en 3 segundos
lucas es el mejor y antonio lo tiene claro cuando se retire lucas ahi ganara antonio
surely the empi's @ 1..05 has to be wrong....? the hand cannot fold into the arm, the elbow has to goes towards the hand ...? and when you have 2 karateka of this ability little points like this decides who wins and who loses.
shurinryu kata??
@KarateMiramar En serbia 2010 le gano en la final!
yes he is good, but number 2 in the world? What message does this send to kids? That stances don't count as long as you're fast. If a stance is bad, the technique is weak. he is very very fast, but i think we can all agree, when we shorten and raise our stances, its much easier to move faster. Others do correct stances and as such, move slightly slower, then get punished for doing it right. he has always competed this way & refuses to change because judges continue to reward him for it.
pues con todo y el minimo desekilibrio de luca no se puede negar q su kata fue mejor soy de venezuela (shotokan) y considero q los katas shoto tienen mucho mas nivel q los kata shito
Disculpen pero creo, que kankudai no tiene nada parecido a kusanku
Lucas creo que tiene aproximadamente 36 años , y Antonio Diaz 32 años.
oss me parece que esta ves era para diaz
LOL~ As what I heard from my sensi, which is a 8th dan from Japan, he said that Luca is no that good actually. Pay attention to his feet, he always lift his heel up, which you are not suppose to :( Also, the yoko geri keage suppose to be chudan but he did it as jodan and but his back fist strike was chudan where suppose to be jodan to the tempo :(
y ese el kata e diferente xq es raro
y xq defienden tanto antonio karatemiramar? el es bueno pero el sabe que para ser campeon mundial tiene un contrincante super fuerte digan lo que digan tiene que trabajar como lo viene haciendo
Oss... Quien Gano? No veo bien las banderaas =C
Luca Valdesi is the best
antonio diaz tiene 27 años mientras q valdesi 32, y antonio diaz perdio x detalles pequeños pero al final x esos detalles no gano :D arriba luca XD
@miguel29092 sin animo de ofender.. ignorancia acaso??? ballet jajaja por Dios.... es que es necesario saber un poquito para disfrutar de el espectáculo que son las katas!!!!
was 5-0 i was in there
Yes.... now look at the results (4-1) of resently US Open 2009... Díaz by far is Better...much more kime and you can see this...Valdesi is good and have a long history...but Diaz is much better...
@miguel29092 de veras que eres puñetas wey
en esta ocacion mucho mejor valdesi
Clearly you have never trained true karate in which there is not just kicking and punching. Kata techniques contain within them many more rounded techniques and even grappling. And ultimately it is a way of meditating and uniting the mind, body and spirit.
How did Diaz get to the final?
His hands are very sharp. But his stances are beyond appalling. He is almost standing up every time. With no stance, all techniques lose their effectiveness. You could push him over at any time. His neko-ashi dachi does not protect the groin and is way too high. His shiko-dachi would have no take-down defense capability and would not add strength to any strike. His zenkutsu-dachi strikes would be completely useless with that stance. 1/10.
la victoria la merece antonio!
creo k el arbitraje en esta final fue algo subjetivo
@cheekusri143
Check out this gankaku, is much better: Gankaku Ohta Sensei by 1000MOSHT
Antonio merecia ganar no valdesi, tanto por tecnica como por nivel del kata
No, Antonio won by a vote. The score was 3:2.
loyalarcher Idiot, Valdesi won. There is a text: LUCA VALDESI WORLD CHAMPION".
loyalarcher no lucas won 3.2 sorry lol.
@natsukyvalentine chingado como chingan bueno pues si fuera tan fuerte y tan cabron tambien pelearia no
wow i used to do this back in grade 7 when i got my blackbelt and then i quit. 5 years later i realize how gay it really was. I can't believe people waste their time doing this shit.
see "sonny montalvo" doing this kata.... search sonny montalvo.... i think it is better than this one
@mercedescortez Antonio Diaz le gano a Luca.
ANTONIO DIAS HERES MEJOR....
CacoalShitoRyu Ha ha ha!
va! pero no pelea nada mas baila ballet
BRAVO l arbitrage, voila ce qui s appelle faire gagner un palmares plutot qu un kata!!oui valdesi est tres fort, mais sur cette finale, non non et non désolé, ya qd une petite perte d equilibre que seuls les hypocrites diront ne pas avoir vu! j adore lucas mais là désolé le champion du monde c diaz et largement, c etait surement le dernier championnat du monde pour ces deux là, antonio n aura jamais ete champion du monde alor que c est un shito ryu hors paire, je suis degouté pour lui.
thousands of dollars and countless hours of my time was wasted on this useless activity, I guess i was an idiot.