I realize it's an old video but man it made things so simple for me. All of the other videos are elongated windbags with frequency responses and doing this and doing that I just needed a simple plug and Play thank you!
Interesting...I always run my splitter BEFORE its in put into one of the subs. I just put it in the line out of the AVR and split that line in two and go one RCA line into one sub and one into the other
Just did it on my dual svs 1000 and worked like a charm. I had that same problem where the chain would not work in sink. Best tip ever my man. Thank you
Got a quick question for ya..Since you are my go to for sub info😁...I replaced my old Receiver for another one 2 days ago..But now I have no control over my crossovers/phases on back of Subs..They still are playing as far as I know..Wondering if the receiver overrides the control?🤔
Hi there, I want to hook two Fenton FT215LED 1600W active speakers together but from what I can see there are only one pair of left and right RCA's per speaker, all it says is LINE, is there a way to hook them up together with a splitter like in your video?
looks like your splitting sub #1 to the amp and to sub#2. Shouldn't you be splitting the amp to sub #1 and sub#2? i.e. main branch from amp, 2 legs split to each sub?
If I did this, would I still be able to use the red line out on the sub to go to a third sub and the white line out to go to a fourth sub? Or, would I use another Y cable on either the red or white rca out? My speakers have subs in them with LFE, so trying to figure how to easily connect them all, so basically connect with your set-up from the sub to the center channel, and then each sub out ( either red/white rca) to each front speaker's LFE.
you're channel is very informative. wish I saw this channel 2 weeks ago. I just recently purchased a sub and regret not seeing your videos before my purchase.
Greeting's Subwoofer 101, I just bought 2 subwoofers, realized I do not have LFE on my AVR. So I'm going to try this, someone else below said they put the splitter at the AVR subwoofer output, then ran the cables to the LFE of both subs. They said there was no difference ? does the splitter have to be in the LFE of Sub(1) then run the cable to Sub(2) for this to properly work? thanks in advance.
To drastically improve sound? Not so much. But I can attest to SVS cables preventing/eliminating subwoofer hum. I finally experienced a significant hum for the first time since I started the channel, and SVS cables resolved the hum completely. I even tried the cheap cable again and the hum came back, and disappeared again with the SVS subwoofer cable. Considering how expensive cables can get, SVS subwoofer cables are definitely worth having. If nothing else, as a good preventative against subwoofer hum. Mixing subwoofer cables would matter most with instances of hum. With no hum, not a big deal.
I had just purchased a Yamaha reciever 5.1 theater system and love it. Just want more base. I wana purchase 2 of the same subwoofers and hook them up, but only have one subwoofer preout on the back of my receiver. So i would need a splitter to hook up 2 subwoofers correct? Thanks hope to hear from you soon.
I see what your trying to accomplish, BUT how are you getting a signal to that sub now? I’m thinking you still need audio to that sub then you need to split that line and bring it to The last sub. That’s what I’m trying to do so I can have bass everywhere.
thank you - I was looking for this info. any thoughts on the cable length vs sound quality? I just need to mask the cables in the wall to interconnect the subs in such a manner - daisy chain.
Anyone got some answers for me? Not an audiophile but went ham on the purchases. Have a nice lil system but cant get all my subs hooked up, working, wired, or powered properly. 5 subs in total receiver is an onkyo rz3100. Can i make it work with daisy chaining? I have an oppo 205 i can hook on up to, and a def tech supercube reference and trinity on the receiver. How can i get the other 2 on my L,R front towers booming? Bp7000sc. Everything has its own class d amplifier. Due to covid ive come this far by myself.
Fantastic idea. I'll soon be in the process of adding 2 more subs for a total of 4. Question. What has it been like to get all those working in tandem with their phase? I know I have my first two opposite phases to sound correct. Hoping adding 2 more doesnt make it a nightmare to do.
The old 'rule of thumb' was to remember to backoff the output, using each subwoofers output control, as you add each sub. In other words:- add a sub, set it up to sound exactly as needed, as you add each subsequent sub you'll need to do the entire process for all connected subs so you'll set up one, add another and set them both up and so on, and you'll find you will be backing off the volume because if you are doing it right the required 'SPL' won't require the subs to be pushed in order to achieve a 'reference level', possibly one of the THX standards, in your listening room. That said, I prefer to split at the amp output, then run individual sub leads to each of my three M&K subs.
Hi guys! i hope you can help me out...i have a harman kardon avr 132 & a jbl subwoofer...ive been trying to hook it up together but no sound coming out from the sub...what would i do?
I'm not sure if it is the mediabridge splitter that I'm using but I feel like the subwoofer output is a lot lower when using a splitter at the receiver or at the sub.
You know I experience something similar so I do not run a splitter I just use the line out on both subs to have a four sub set up and it works fine awesome I test the two additional subs themselves and I didn’t detect a delay at all it sounds awesome
could you tell me if this concept would work if I have four subwoofers total. I Y connected from my Denon receiver from the two sub outs. could I use the Y connector from my back subs to run a bash amplifier to my couch bass shakers would that work to get the l.f.e signal to the shakers. thanks.
Matched is best I think. You're causing the bass waves to interlace, so the closer the match the better in my opinion. Two mismatched subs might sound a little better than a single, but 2 matched subs should sound better than that, assuming similar quality. That's just my opinion though.
Great info. Question, my sub cable is about 4ft short of the new location that I want to place my subwoofer. Is it possible to add a extension to the existing cable without any loss to the signal?? I ran my cable under my carpet, and I really don't to pull it up. Any suggestions? Thanks.
Yeah, you should be able to run a barrel connector to add some length without issue: amzn.to/2x8VjZl It should be fine, as long as you don't notice a difference, there probably isn't one. Maybe if you run a really low grade cable near some power cords you might have an issue, but it shouldn't be much different that what I talk about in the video, but instead of a Y Splitter, you'd just be using a barrel connector. Should be just fine.
If you cant tell there's a delay then there's no need for splitters .. Im running mine 2 subs with rca's for years and haven't noticed , but the splitter is useful if your subwoofer only has a pair and not a set of two pairs of RCA jacks
Hi im not sure you are still replying to this video but il ask the question anyway. I was running a single elac 3010 sub before and the bass was fantastic and very round. Iv very recently decided to run an SVS sb1000 with the elac with a splitter running from the reciever. All of a sudden the subs both seem very quiet to the point i have to put my ear to it to make sure it is switched on. Could this way of daisy chaining sort that problem out?
I think it splits the power in half per subwoofer. I tried the traditional way if Daisy chaining and had it on auto mode. One subwoofer would be on while the other is on stand by. My old subwoofer was playing bass but my SVS 2000 wasn't. All in short I just use one subwoofer because my receiver only has one subwoofer pre out and not meant for two subwoofers. I haven't tried this RUclipsr method yet
Pretty cool, I just ordered the svs pb-1000. quick question the cross over does it act as a high pass filter too? meaning the line out will they be filtered?. say cross set at 80hz is line out 81hz -40khz?
That is a question that I don't know the answer to. What I've learned is that each amplifier can vary in how these things work. Best thing to do is ask SVS that question directly. You'll notice your PB-1000 comes with speaker level inputs, but the PB-2000 does not have them, something I missed because I never use them. I just use the LFE in and let the AVR handle all of the processing. I disable the crossover and set the phase to "0". SVS would be able to answer that question quicker than I could: bit.ly/SVSsupport (affiliate link)
great tip I tried this on my 4 subs and works like a charm I had a long sub cable go bad and I saw your video and decided to try this with a new shorter cable I had and this works great. I had the splitter on the recever. I never thought of putting it on the sub lfe and running both hales into it its a way better way to run multiple subs. thanks for your video it helped a lot.
Thx - very helpful. I wasn't aware at all of that issue with delay possibly being added when daisy-chaining multiple subs. I only have 2 subs so it's not an issue I encounter since I don't need to daisy-chain or use splitters. However, I'm sure for some people it could be a big issue, especially if there bass is being mistimed and the receiver won't correct for that if on the same output (assuming it even corrects dual outputs in the first place)! Good to learn something new and have a couple of useful fixes in case anyone I know mentions this sort of issue.
It's a bit outside of my scope, but you have me curious about it. I'll keep it in mind and keep an eye out for it. I would be surprised if it delivered authority under 35 hertz, but concede that it's possible.
Question, Why split from the subwoofer? Is this to go around the room? Can you split from behind the receiver if subs are going to be same distances from the screen?
I'm getting 2 polk 10 inch subs psw10 but have one sub out on my receiver so I'm getting a spitter for the back of the receiver and using 2 sub cables hopefully it works because I wanna shake the whole house
I'm honestly not familiar at all with that system, and I couldn't tell you whether it would allow a second subwoofer. Does it require an Audio Video Receiver (AVR) or is it self contained? If self contained, it may not allow it, but I'm guessing blindly.
Yup there is a delay on line out. Also what a lot of people don't realize is that TRUE daisy chain makes a parallel connection and not in series. The first connection you made was a series connection, the next was parallel
Denon AVR-3801 AM/FM Stereo 735-Watt 7.1-Channel Home Audio Surround Receiver - sub woofer has a pre out right and left. the 2 subs i want to hookup has only one right left in on each sub. how to i hook them both up without loosing any power from each.? i did hook with a splitter one wire/ cord to each but lost power or sound to each too. do i need multiple kinds of splitters for this? thanks for any info? or help...i had pics but don't see where to add them? hmm.. but any help would be great! Thanks..
I have 5.1 system of Philips. Bass not fine which is 6.5 inches. Can i cut the wires of subwoofer and install subwoofer such as 8 inch or more in another box? System is 96 watt. Can i connect passive woofer replacing inbuilt woofer of the system?
Hey there thanks for this informative video. I had a question in mind. Can I use a 1 x RCA male to 2 x RCA female splitter and connect two speakers to one of the single outputs of my home theatre system? Cause in that way I'll be able to hook up two satellite speakers to each of the RCA outputs on the woofer unit......Is this possible ???
I don't really know for sure, it occurs to me you might be talking about some sore of kit home theater (Bose, etc..) but if the amplification is there, I suppose it's possible. I'm fuzzy on the details though. If you go into more depth about what you're using and trying to do, I can get a better picture.
I always heard how having 2 subs was so amazing, honestly it’s been a headache. My subs are in the front, one on each side. The problem is that the right sub is very weak compared to the left sub. My receiver tells me to crank the gain knob on my right sub to match the left. Even then it doesn’t perform as well as the sub on the left. I flipped them thinking maybe the sub was just bad but no now the weak sub is the strong sub since it’s placed on the left side. I’m sure it has to be with location but how can a few feet apart make such a huge difference. Since this has been a problem for me I just wanna sell both my pb2000s and just get one pb3000 or monolith 13 thx sub and set it on th left side where the subs perform well
Left side near the corner? Sounds like boundary gain. I had the same thing, my left sub had to be 4db lower than the right one. Similar situation, it sounds like. Left sub was closer to the corner. Not a problem, so long as the sound is proper. Go through my bass hack series, particularly crossover hack, gain hack, distance hack, and adjusting subwoofers by ear. Those are awesome subs, and I think it would be a mistake to go back to a single, even if it was a PB 16 Ultra. Those should be putting a huge smile on your face, and if not, you just need to adjust it. Also, when running room correction, try to do it with a fairly tight grouping, within a 4 foot circle. If it sounds good, don't get hung up on the difference in gain. Trust your ears.
@@Subwoofer101 yea the left sub is more in a corner surrounded by a heavy bookshelf with movies on it, also next to it my av rack with a 50 pound amp. Maybe all the weight helps the sub sound better? Then the right sub is more on a open space. My door to the room is next to it which leads to a hallway. Sometimes when I run audyssey it tells me that the right sub is weak and to turn up the gain on it until it matches the left sub. Then when I do that the db levels are usually the same on my receiver for both subs. Other times audyssey doesn’t tell me to match the gain on the right sub to the left sub so when I adjust db levels on my receiver my left sub is at -4.5 to hit 70db on my spl meter and the right sub I need to set to +2db to hit 70db on the spl meter.
That's what it sounded like from what you described. If you want to get a good idea for how boundary gain works, stand in the open area of the room, then against the wall, and then a corner. The bass will become more intense closer to a boundary, and even more intense in a corner. Your right sub isn't weak, your left sub is producing more audible output due to boundary gain. You discovered that yourself when you switched them. It's just the placement. And it's perfectly normal. I know symmetry in the settings can mess with people, it messed with me at first. Usually Audyssey will have you level match your subs. If you haven't seen my gain hack video, just set them both to 82-83 db during that point, and then your AVR subwoofer level will be -11 to -12. You can do that without going through the entire process, just use it to get the subwoofer levels right, then back out. I like my subs set to -11.5 on the AVR, and then I adjust the subs using the app, keeping the same difference in gain. So if one sub is -14, and the other is -11, and I can run a little more gain, I'll go to -13 and -10. I also use Metallica's "lords of summer" to get my gain set. Turn up the gain on the subs until it's overbearing, then turn them down until they aren't. These are all in my Bass Hack Videos, and there's a lot more than just these things. Those videos can help accomplish much better sound overall.
Where do you stand regarding subwoofer cable quality/price ratio? just ordered a QED performance subwoofer cable myself. I really hope it will improve the bass over a shielded Coax cable that I have been using for too long, because I was of the belief that cables don't sound different. Anyway after reading some forum posts on the matter I was swayed to try a proper subwoofer cable. Looking forward to testing it when it arrives.
$10-$80 depending on length is probably a pretty good quality cable with useful features, like eliminating hum, being durable, quality build, longer runs, etc... SVS interconnects bit.ly/SubCable (affiliate link) have a good reputation for eliminating hums, which is worthwhile. I've never had a problem with a hum, but such a thing would drive me mad in short order. Seems like a cheap fix for such a thing, and cheap insurance otherwise. So long as you don't see too many negative reviews (hums, falling apart, etc) it should do the job. I'm all for getting quality cables as a general rule, but within reason. Would I ever get one of these? amzn.to/2gNPr0Q (affiliate link) Not even if I won the super lotto, and I love bass.
Just to be clear! What I know about electronics would fit on the tip of a pin! But that being said I dont understand how using a y connector on the output of the reciever that goes into the input of the sub and then plugging in the second sub into the y connector that's going "in" the sub can possibly not cause some kind of an issue with the electronics?!!?!?!?
The way you connected the splitter to the subs are confusing. Are you sure this is the way? Doesn't the split ends should go to the subs? Also does daisy chaining degrades the signal to the subs as it pass by?
Thats what I’m planning to do with my Def Tech 9080 center speaker. I’m gonna run the splitter from the sub just like in the video and hook a little line from the splitter to the center channel
I’m figuring by now that’s probably what you did if this is what you did can you message me back and let me know how you ran calibration off of your AVR
Hmmm? That is "LTE" input he is Y splitting out into "2" lines and "1" line suppose to go to "amp" yea but to "amp" output! the other split line coming from the split subs "Lte" input then to your other "subs" input is " NOT RIGHT"! WHAT IS HE SAYING/SHOWING?
That's great information! However I decided to drink every time you said "you know". Now I can't focus on my screen. Thank you for the video, and a really good time.
I daisy chain my subs but I use the 2 sub out puts from my receiver for a total of 4 subs and they sound great w/out distortion or latency. If there ever is latency then I correct it with the distance etc. in the software for the receiver. I still like trying different things so I won't put this idea off. My subs are two Bic PL-200ll and the Bic F-12's.
LFE stands for "Low Frequency Effect" and is designed specifically for subwoofers. Someone misunderstood something along the way. It happens, he may have just misspoke.
When you zoomed in so we could see up close really helped; however, afterward, I couldn't tell what was what because you didn't zoom out so we could see how the wires were connected. You attempted to explain it but I'm now lost.
RCA cable from AVR subwoofer out, to RCA splitter, to first sub. Then from the other available female end of that splitter to the next sub. Does that help?
@@Subwoofer101 The way you explained ^^ is what I thought; however, I was under the impression that "daisy chaining" is different than what you explained above?
Daisy chain means to go from the AVR to a sub, then from that sub to another sub, and so on...You could go around the room with several subs this way. AVR->Sub->Sub->Sub->Sub
I'd like to know how to connect 1 or multiple amps to a receiver? What are the benefits of adding an amp? A diagram or link to one would be helpful or a video would be better. HELP! Thanks Mr. Sub 101. Love your vids.
The biggest thing is to determine whether your AVR/receiver has pre-outs. If it does, then you can add an external amplifier(s), which is done with RCA (interconnect) cables. I'll try to do a video on it down the road. My previous AVR did not have the capability to add external amps for all channels. What kind of AVR are you using now?
Your Onkyo TX-NR636 seems to be just like my Denon X2000, in that it isn't set up for external amplification aside from "Zone 2". I know the X3000 series and up have it. X4200, x4300, x3200, x6200 etc. Essentially, to run more power, you need an upgraded AVR. I was bummed when I realized that. Now, with a X6200, I can run 11 channels externally. Shouldn't have to change anytime soon. If you're speakers are set to "Small", crossed at 80 hertz or more, you aren't in terrible shape, and probably not "needing" external power if you're not experiencing noticeable clipping or distortion. Trying to run 7 channels as "Large" would stress your amp at high volumes, as the power needed to drive speakers increases as the frequency drops. I let my subwoofer amplifiers handle the heavy lifting, but I'll be experimenting with external amps in the future.
What a bummer! Good sub makers are few and far between, and SVS has the best global reach that I'm aware of for the makers I recommend. Dual 12" would be a good start, but I don't know what's available to you. I'm really sorry I don't have a better answer.
It's the coaxial configuration that initially threw me. If the subs had normal speaker connections at the inputs rather than RCA, this would be like wiring all of the positive terminals together, and all of the negative terminals together. It doesn't look this way with the RCA splitter, but that's the way the electrons see it. The signal is the same at each sub this way, with negligible attenuation under normal conditions (not using a 500 ft cable run). Using your Antimode (assuming you mean the 8033 or something like it) I would assume would be better because of the adjust-ability, but I have no experience with it yet.
Thanks for your reply... yes your right I'm using the Antimode 8033 cinema to Eq my peaks.. so I guess in my setup i'd need to split from the antimode so Boths Subs get the benefit of the taming.. although I still use the 25hz lift option on Antimode for the Fun Factor.. But still very surprised about your method.. THAT'S why I luv your channel.. Can't wait for the PB/SB16 Ultra Review.. :-)
You have two lines going into a subwoofer (amp and additional subwoofer.) How does that work with no output connection? It's like connecting two subwoofers via the audio IN.
Hello Jason...I'm looking at doing that because my home cinema receiver amp has 2 sub rca out only and I'm wanting a 3rd sub to run..I was thinking of using a splitter to give me that option..works then yeah? I'm looking to put a sub on the centre channel..1 on the front channels and 1 on the rears...using the neutrik principle (high level also that you use a special plug into the high level output on the sub then to the speakers or binding posts on the amp.
Subwoofer 101 Hey brotha, so i got my 2 Pb 16 Ultras yesterday, I'm not getting enough bass from any of the subs? Both of the subs db is on 0... Denon input level is on 12db.... Something is wrong, my 2 Klipsch 15s hit harder....do you know what this is ? Thank!!
I realize it's an old video but man it made things so simple for me. All of the other videos are elongated windbags with frequency responses and doing this and doing that I just needed a simple plug and Play thank you!
Interesting...I always run my splitter BEFORE its in put into one of the subs. I just put it in the line out of the AVR and split that line in two and go one RCA line into one sub and one into the other
Just did it on my dual svs 1000 and worked like a charm. I had that same problem where the chain would not work in sink. Best tip ever my man. Thank you
+xburgos1 I love this kind of feedback! Glad to help!
So where do you connect the splitter from the 1st sub to 2nd sub? Into the line in jacks?
thanks sir! I have zines set up with subs in each zone to keep the sound the same throughout the house and am impressed with how easy this is!
Got a quick question for ya..Since you are my go to for sub info😁...I replaced my old Receiver for another one 2 days ago..But now I have no control over my crossovers/phases on back of Subs..They still are playing as far as I know..Wondering if the receiver overrides the control?🤔
Hi there, I want to hook two Fenton FT215LED 1600W active speakers together but from what I can see there are only one pair of left and right RCA's per speaker, all it says is LINE, is there a way to hook them up together with a splitter like in your video?
looks like your splitting sub #1 to the amp and to sub#2. Shouldn't you be splitting the amp to sub #1 and sub#2? i.e. main branch from amp, 2 legs split to each sub?
If I did this, would I still be able to use the red line out on the sub to go to a third sub and the white line out to go to a fourth sub? Or, would I use another Y cable on either the red or white rca out? My speakers have subs in them with LFE, so trying to figure how to easily connect them all, so basically connect with your set-up from the sub to the center channel, and then each sub out ( either red/white rca) to each front speaker's LFE.
Can you show us how to daisy chain 2 or more wireless subs? Is it possible?
you're channel is very informative. wish I saw this channel 2 weeks ago. I just recently purchased a sub and regret not seeing your videos before my purchase.
Thanks! Sorry to hear about the timing. If you haven't entered already, SVS is doing a PB-1000 giveaway for my 100th video.
Subwoofer 101 I did :) congratulations on hitting 100 videos
wll the signal be affected/diminished in any way by using 1 RCA input instead of 2?
Greeting's Subwoofer 101, I just bought 2 subwoofers, realized I do not have LFE on my AVR. So I'm going to try this, someone else below said they put the splitter at the AVR subwoofer output, then ran the cables to the LFE of both subs. They said there was no difference ? does the splitter have to be in the LFE of Sub(1) then run the cable to Sub(2) for this to properly work? thanks in advance.
Do cables really matter?..SVS cables were recommended to me..Should I mix and match sub cables or use same brand?
To drastically improve sound?
Not so much. But I can attest to SVS cables preventing/eliminating subwoofer hum.
I finally experienced a significant hum for the first time since I started the channel, and SVS cables resolved the hum completely.
I even tried the cheap cable again and the hum came back, and disappeared again with the SVS subwoofer cable.
Considering how expensive cables can get, SVS subwoofer cables are definitely worth having. If nothing else, as a good preventative against subwoofer hum.
Mixing subwoofer cables would matter most with instances of hum. With no hum, not a big deal.
@@Subwoofer101 Great to hear.👍
Wow been doing this for over a year, works great. just use a good quality parts and cables.
I had just purchased a Yamaha reciever 5.1 theater system and love it. Just want more base. I wana purchase 2 of the same subwoofers and hook them up, but only have one subwoofer preout on the back of my receiver. So i would need a splitter to hook up 2 subwoofers correct? Thanks hope to hear from you soon.
That is what you should do, yes.
I see what your trying to accomplish, BUT how are you getting a signal to that sub now? I’m thinking you still need audio to that sub then you need to split that line and bring it to
The last sub. That’s what I’m trying to do so I can have bass everywhere.
thank you - I was looking for this info. any thoughts on the cable length vs sound quality? I just need to mask the cables in the wall to interconnect the subs in such a manner - daisy chain.
Anyone got some answers for me? Not an audiophile but went ham on the purchases. Have a nice lil system but cant get all my subs hooked up, working, wired, or powered properly. 5 subs in total receiver is an onkyo rz3100. Can i make it work with daisy chaining? I have an oppo 205 i can hook on up to, and a def tech supercube reference and trinity on the receiver. How can i get the other 2 on my L,R front towers booming? Bp7000sc. Everything has its own class d amplifier. Due to covid ive come this far by myself.
Would doing this way way change the power of both subs to half output?
Fantastic idea. I'll soon be in the process of adding 2 more subs for a total of 4. Question. What has it been like to get all those working in tandem with their phase? I know I have my first two opposite phases to sound correct. Hoping adding 2 more doesnt make it a nightmare to do.
The old 'rule of thumb' was to remember to backoff the output, using each subwoofers output control, as you add each sub.
In other words:- add a sub, set it up to sound exactly as needed, as you add each subsequent sub you'll need to do the entire process for all connected subs so you'll set up one, add another and set them both up and so on, and you'll find you will be backing off the volume because if you are doing it right the required 'SPL' won't require the subs to be pushed in order to achieve a 'reference level', possibly one of the THX standards, in your listening room.
That said, I prefer to split at the amp output, then run individual sub leads to each of my three M&K subs.
Hi guys! i hope you can help me out...i have a harman kardon avr 132 & a jbl subwoofer...ive been trying to hook it up together but no sound coming out from the sub...what would i do?
I'm not sure if it is the mediabridge splitter that I'm using but I feel like the subwoofer output is a lot lower when using a splitter at the receiver or at the sub.
You know I experience something similar so I do not run a splitter I just use the line out on both subs to have a four sub set up and it works fine awesome
I test the two additional subs themselves and I didn’t detect a delay at all it sounds awesome
could you tell me if this concept would work if I have four subwoofers total. I Y connected from my Denon receiver from the two sub outs. could I use the Y connector from my back subs to run a bash amplifier to my couch bass shakers would that work to get the l.f.e signal to the shakers. thanks.
Enjoyed it! I will have to look at my subs connections this weekend.
Yes, first thing I bought for my two subs behind me. One 25' to splitter and 8' to the next Sub. So simple
Can 2 different type of subwoofer sound ok??
I got two different sub
Im not sure if its ok
I use a Y-adapter to power both L & R channels. I hear it adds a little gain. If so, I guess you should daisy-chain both L&R channels too. Comments ?
what are your thoughts on running two different size subs? or is it best to keep them the same size with the same model.
Matched is best I think. You're causing the bass waves to interlace, so the closer the match the better in my opinion. Two mismatched subs might sound a little better than a single, but 2 matched subs should sound better than that, assuming similar quality. That's just my opinion though.
Great info. Question, my sub cable is about 4ft short of the new location that I want to place my subwoofer. Is it possible to add a extension to the existing cable without any loss to the signal?? I ran my cable under my carpet, and I really don't to pull it up. Any suggestions? Thanks.
Yeah, you should be able to run a barrel connector to add some length without issue: amzn.to/2x8VjZl
It should be fine, as long as you don't notice a difference, there probably isn't one. Maybe if you run a really low grade cable near some power cords you might have an issue, but it shouldn't be much different that what I talk about in the video, but instead of a Y Splitter, you'd just be using a barrel connector. Should be just fine.
Just purchased a second sub and was wondering how to do it, thanks
If you cant tell there's a delay then there's no need for splitters .. Im running mine 2 subs with rca's for years and haven't noticed , but the splitter is useful if your subwoofer only has a pair and not a set of two pairs of RCA jacks
can't you just use the line output and shift the phase a bit for the first subwoofer to synchronise to the second (farthest) one?
In theory you could. Probably easier if you have a dual output AVR to use distance instead.
Hi im not sure you are still replying to this video but il ask the question anyway. I was running a single elac 3010 sub before and the bass was fantastic and very round. Iv very recently decided to run an SVS sb1000 with the elac with a splitter running from the reciever. All of a sudden the subs both seem very quiet to the point i have to put my ear to it to make sure it is switched on. Could this way of daisy chaining sort that problem out?
I think it splits the power in half per subwoofer. I tried the traditional way if Daisy chaining and had it on auto mode. One subwoofer would be on while the other is on stand by. My old subwoofer was playing bass but my SVS 2000 wasn't. All in short I just use one subwoofer because my receiver only has one subwoofer pre out and not meant for two subwoofers. I haven't tried this RUclipsr method yet
Pretty cool, I just ordered the svs pb-1000. quick question the cross over does it act as a high pass filter too? meaning the line out will they be filtered?. say cross set at 80hz is line out 81hz -40khz?
That is a question that I don't know the answer to. What I've learned is that each amplifier can vary in how these things work. Best thing to do is ask SVS that question directly. You'll notice your PB-1000 comes with speaker level inputs, but the PB-2000 does not have them, something I missed because I never use them. I just use the LFE in and let the AVR handle all of the processing. I disable the crossover and set the phase to "0".
SVS would be able to answer that question quicker than I could:
bit.ly/SVSsupport (affiliate link)
Very good info, saved me a ton of time figuring out which cables and converters to buy. Just bought my second sub. Subbed!
great tip I tried this on my 4 subs and works like a charm I had a long sub cable go bad and I saw your video and decided to try this with a new shorter cable I had and this works great. I had the splitter on the recever. I never thought of putting it on the sub lfe and running both hales into it its a way better way to run multiple subs. thanks for your video it helped a lot.
I love feedback like this! Thanks for letting me know!
Thx - very helpful. I wasn't aware at all of that issue with delay possibly being added when daisy-chaining multiple subs. I only have 2 subs so it's not an issue I encounter since I don't need to daisy-chain or use splitters. However, I'm sure for some people it could be a big issue, especially if there bass is being mistimed and the receiver won't correct for that if on the same output (assuming it even corrects dual outputs in the first place)! Good to learn something new and have a couple of useful fixes in case anyone I know mentions this sort of issue.
At this very moment I'm using this to run 4 subs on the same wall. Works as advertised!
Can u test the portable klipsch stadium? It's rated to go down to 26 hertz rather authoritatively.
It's a bit outside of my scope, but you have me curious about it. I'll keep it in mind and keep an eye out for it. I would be surprised if it delivered authority under 35 hertz, but concede that it's possible.
Question, Why split from the subwoofer? Is this to go around the room? Can you split from behind the receiver if subs are going to be same distances from the screen?
It pretty much doesn't matter. Split behind the AVR or daisy chained at the sub should yield the same result.
@@Subwoofer101 thanks.
I'm getting 2 polk 10 inch subs psw10 but have one sub out on my receiver so I'm getting a spitter for the back of the receiver and using 2 sub cables hopefully it works because I wanna shake the whole house
Did it end up working?
Hello sir, i need a suggestion. I have a f&d f6000 u home theater, can i add extra subwoofer for more base?? Please suggest
I'm honestly not familiar at all with that system, and I couldn't tell you whether it would allow a second subwoofer. Does it require an Audio Video Receiver (AVR) or is it self contained? If self contained, it may not allow it, but I'm guessing blindly.
Yup there is a delay on line out. Also what a lot of people don't realize is that TRUE daisy chain makes a parallel connection and not in series. The first connection you made was a series connection, the next was parallel
It is possible to connect 1 powered subwoofer to 5.1 speaker system using speaker wire?
When I ran a splitter, only one sub got signal..any idea?
Sounds like a bad splitter maybe?
Denon AVR-3801 AM/FM Stereo 735-Watt 7.1-Channel Home Audio Surround Receiver - sub woofer has a pre out right and left.
the 2 subs i want to hookup has only one right left in on each sub. how to i hook them both up without loosing any power from each.? i did hook with a splitter one wire/ cord to each but lost power or sound to each too. do i need multiple kinds of splitters for this? thanks for any info? or help...i had pics but don't see where to add them? hmm.. but any help would be great! Thanks..
I have 5 subs and had the same problem with loss of power. Setup and questions in my main post if you could help with anything.
I have 5.1 system of Philips. Bass not fine which is 6.5 inches. Can i cut the wires of subwoofer and install subwoofer such as 8 inch or more in another box? System is 96 watt. Can i connect passive woofer replacing inbuilt woofer of the system?
that sounds like a home theater in a box with the built-in Blu-ray player those are proprietary so there not very upgradable
Hey there thanks for this informative video. I had a question in mind. Can I use a 1 x RCA male to 2 x RCA female splitter and connect two speakers to one of the single outputs of my home theatre system? Cause in that way I'll be able to hook up two satellite speakers to each of the RCA outputs on the woofer unit......Is this possible ???
I don't really know for sure, it occurs to me you might be talking about some sore of kit home theater (Bose, etc..) but if the amplification is there, I suppose it's possible. I'm fuzzy on the details though. If you go into more depth about what you're using and trying to do, I can get a better picture.
I just tried it out today and yes it works just fine . No problems at all.
I have used y splitters to daisy chain in the past. Good to know I did it correctly.
I always heard how having 2 subs was so amazing, honestly it’s been a headache. My subs are in the front, one on each side. The problem is that the right sub is very weak compared to the left sub. My receiver tells me to crank the gain knob on my right sub to match the left. Even then it doesn’t perform as well as the sub on the left. I flipped them thinking maybe the sub was just bad but no now the weak sub is the strong sub since it’s placed on the left side. I’m sure it has to be with location but how can a few feet apart make such a huge difference. Since this has been a problem for me I just wanna sell both my pb2000s and just get one pb3000 or monolith 13 thx sub and set it on th left side where the subs perform well
Left side near the corner? Sounds like boundary gain.
I had the same thing, my left sub had to be 4db lower than the right one. Similar situation, it sounds like. Left sub was closer to the corner.
Not a problem, so long as the sound is proper.
Go through my bass hack series, particularly crossover hack, gain hack, distance hack, and adjusting subwoofers by ear.
Those are awesome subs, and I think it would be a mistake to go back to a single, even if it was a PB 16 Ultra.
Those should be putting a huge smile on your face, and if not, you just need to adjust it.
Also, when running room correction, try to do it with a fairly tight grouping, within a 4 foot circle.
If it sounds good, don't get hung up on the difference in gain.
Trust your ears.
@@Subwoofer101 yea the left sub is more in a corner surrounded by a heavy bookshelf with movies on it, also next to it my av rack with a 50 pound amp. Maybe all the weight helps the sub sound better? Then the right sub is more on a open space. My door to the room is next to it which leads to a hallway. Sometimes when I run audyssey it tells me that the right sub is weak and to turn up the gain on it until it matches the left sub. Then when I do that the db levels are usually the same on my receiver for both subs. Other times audyssey doesn’t tell me to match the gain on the right sub to the left sub so when I adjust db levels on my receiver my left sub is at -4.5 to hit 70db on my spl meter and the right sub I need to set to +2db to hit 70db on the spl meter.
That's what it sounded like from what you described.
If you want to get a good idea for how boundary gain works, stand in the open area of the room, then against the wall, and then a corner.
The bass will become more intense closer to a boundary, and even more intense in a corner.
Your right sub isn't weak, your left sub is producing more audible output due to boundary gain.
You discovered that yourself when you switched them. It's just the placement. And it's perfectly normal.
I know symmetry in the settings can mess with people, it messed with me at first.
Usually Audyssey will have you level match your subs.
If you haven't seen my gain hack video, just set them both to 82-83 db during that point, and then your AVR subwoofer level will be -11 to -12.
You can do that without going through the entire process, just use it to get the subwoofer levels right, then back out.
I like my subs set to -11.5 on the AVR, and then I adjust the subs using the app, keeping the same difference in gain.
So if one sub is -14, and the other is -11, and I can run a little more gain, I'll go to -13 and -10.
I also use Metallica's "lords of summer" to get my gain set.
Turn up the gain on the subs until it's overbearing, then turn them down until they aren't.
These are all in my Bass Hack Videos, and there's a lot more than just these things.
Those videos can help accomplish much better sound overall.
Where do you stand regarding subwoofer cable quality/price ratio? just ordered a QED performance subwoofer cable myself. I really hope it will improve the bass over a shielded Coax cable that I have been using for too long, because I was of the belief that cables don't sound different. Anyway after reading some forum posts on the matter I was swayed to try a proper subwoofer cable. Looking forward to testing it when it arrives.
$10-$80 depending on length is probably a pretty good quality cable with useful features, like eliminating hum, being durable, quality build, longer runs, etc... SVS interconnects bit.ly/SubCable (affiliate link) have a good reputation for eliminating hums, which is worthwhile. I've never had a problem with a hum, but such a thing would drive me mad in short order. Seems like a cheap fix for such a thing, and cheap insurance otherwise.
So long as you don't see too many negative reviews (hums, falling apart, etc) it should do the job. I'm all for getting quality cables as a general rule, but within reason.
Would I ever get one of these? amzn.to/2gNPr0Q (affiliate link)
Not even if I won the super lotto, and I love bass.
Subwoofer 101 Yeah I agree. I dont believe in snake oil, but I do believe in quality, up to a reasonable price range.
Plenty of oil out there, isn't there? I like to keep things sane, relatively speaking. As I look at 4 subwoofers lined up next to the TV...
Just split my sub out from receiver running two subs one in front one behind me works awesome
Just to be clear! What I know about electronics would fit on the tip of a pin! But that being said I dont understand how using a y connector on the output of the reciever that goes into the input of the sub and then plugging in the second sub into the y connector that's going "in" the sub can possibly not cause some kind of an issue with the electronics?!!?!?!?
No worries, it warped my brain at first too! It works though, and it's a clever solution.
Did you actually test this config you are using? I believe the solution will be to split from the receiver or go wireless.
Yeah, I'm running it right now. Wireless was actually more complicated because of the wireless delay.
The way you connected the splitter to the subs are confusing. Are you sure this is the way? Doesn't the split ends should go to the subs? Also does daisy chaining degrades the signal to the subs as it pass by?
Will this method work with a center speaker, instead of two subs?
Thats what I’m planning to do with my Def Tech 9080 center speaker. I’m gonna run the splitter from the sub just like in the video and hook a little line from the splitter to the center channel
I’m figuring by now that’s probably what you did if this is what you did can you message me back and let me know how you ran calibration off of your AVR
Hmmm? That is "LTE" input he is Y splitting out into "2" lines and "1" line suppose to go to "amp" yea but to "amp" output! the other split line coming from the split subs "Lte" input then to your other "subs" input is " NOT RIGHT"! WHAT IS HE SAYING/SHOWING?
+Min Pin It's right.
That's great information! However I decided to drink every time you said "you know". Now I can't focus on my screen. Thank you for the video, and a really good time.
You know, that's funny...😂
I daisy chain my subs but I use the 2 sub out puts from my receiver for a total of 4 subs and they sound great w/out distortion or latency. If there ever is latency then I correct it with the distance etc. in the software for the receiver. I still like trying different things so I won't put this idea off. My subs are two Bic PL-200ll and the Bic F-12's.
Dude at Best Buy told me the LFE is unfiltered and can hurt my subwoofer is this true and if so what is LFE used for
LFE stands for "Low Frequency Effect" and is designed specifically for subwoofers. Someone misunderstood something along the way. It happens, he may have just misspoke.
When you zoomed in so we could see up close really helped; however, afterward, I couldn't tell what was what because you didn't zoom out so we could see how the wires were connected. You attempted to explain it but I'm now lost.
RCA cable from AVR subwoofer out, to RCA splitter, to first sub. Then from the other available female end of that splitter to the next sub. Does that help?
@@Subwoofer101 The way you explained ^^ is what I thought; however, I was under the impression that "daisy chaining" is different than what you explained above?
Daisy chain means to go from the AVR to a sub, then from that sub to another sub, and so on...You could go around the room with several subs this way. AVR->Sub->Sub->Sub->Sub
Thank you man, no idea how I didnt think of this! Had to diggg deeep to just come across this >_< savior.
I'm glad you found it helpful!
Not exactly an intuitive solution, so when I learned about it, I thought a few people might find it useful.
Can I hook up two wireless subwoofers to my LG soundbar
+jod128 I've wondered the same thing, but I doubt it. Best thing to do would be to call LG.
Subwoofer 101, I watched your video again, I get the concept, no need to reply - thanks
I'd like to know how to connect 1 or multiple amps to a receiver? What are the benefits of adding an amp? A diagram or link to one would be helpful or a video would be better. HELP! Thanks Mr. Sub 101. Love your vids.
The biggest thing is to determine whether your AVR/receiver has pre-outs. If it does, then you can add an external amplifier(s), which is done with RCA (interconnect) cables. I'll try to do a video on it down the road. My previous AVR did not have the capability to add external amps for all channels. What kind of AVR are you using now?
Your Onkyo TX-NR636 seems to be just like my Denon X2000, in that it isn't set up for external amplification aside from "Zone 2". I know the X3000 series and up have it. X4200, x4300, x3200, x6200 etc. Essentially, to run more power, you need an upgraded AVR. I was bummed when I realized that. Now, with a X6200, I can run 11 channels externally. Shouldn't have to change anytime soon.
If you're speakers are set to "Small", crossed at 80 hertz or more, you aren't in terrible shape, and probably not "needing" external power if you're not experiencing noticeable clipping or distortion. Trying to run 7 channels as "Large" would stress your amp at high volumes, as the power needed to drive speakers increases as the frequency drops. I let my subwoofer amplifiers handle the heavy lifting, but I'll be experimenting with external amps in the future.
sorry i got qestion i have living room 30cm how meny inches sub i need whiWhit klipsch r15m in geece they dont sell svs and jl ;
What a bummer! Good sub makers are few and far between, and SVS has the best global reach that I'm aware of for the makers I recommend. Dual 12" would be a good start, but I don't know what's available to you. I'm really sorry I don't have a better answer.
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I think he means to split from the amp sub output not the subwoofer input to hookup multiple subs
I mean you can split it at the subwoofer input. Seems odd, but it works.
Cool, didn't know you could use a splitter like this. Very nice tip.
Thanks! It's not a new thing, but it hadn't occurred to me to use one like this until Ed mentioned it.
hi do yo have 4 sub review?
Are you still running the same sub? Or have you upgraded?
I'm quite puzzled by this, will the input also out-put the same signal too..? my dual Subs are split at the anti-mode... this is interesting... :-)
It's the coaxial configuration that initially threw me. If the subs had normal speaker connections at the inputs rather than RCA, this would be like wiring all of the positive terminals together, and all of the negative terminals together. It doesn't look this way with the RCA splitter, but that's the way the electrons see it. The signal is the same at each sub this way, with negligible attenuation under normal conditions (not using a 500 ft cable run). Using your Antimode (assuming you mean the 8033 or something like it) I would assume would be better because of the adjust-ability, but I have no experience with it yet.
Thanks for your reply... yes your right I'm using the Antimode 8033 cinema to Eq my peaks.. so I guess in my setup i'd need to split from the antimode so Boths Subs get the benefit of the taming.. although I still use the 25hz lift option on Antimode for the Fun Factor.. But still very surprised about your method.. THAT'S why I luv your channel.. Can't wait for the PB/SB16 Ultra Review.. :-)
You have two lines going into a subwoofer (amp and additional subwoofer.) How does that work with no output connection? It's like connecting two subwoofers via the audio IN.
you should go over the phase settings with multiple Subs
Stay tuned!
I run 4 powered 10 "sub all of spliters works perfect
Hello Jason...I'm looking at doing that because my home cinema receiver amp has 2 sub rca out only and I'm wanting a 3rd sub to run..I was thinking of using a splitter to give me that option..works then yeah? I'm looking to put a sub on the centre channel..1 on the front channels and 1 on the rears...using the neutrik principle (high level also that you use a special plug into the high level output on the sub then to the speakers or binding posts on the amp.
This I didn't know... thanks 👍
I'm using an Onkyo
Good info thank you
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Can you get XTZ?
what is exactly Daisy chaining?
Receiver --> Sub1 --> Sub2 --> ... --> SubN for N number of subwoofers
Great way to put it! JDmsz, does that answer it for you?
Subwoofer 101 yep
Subwoofer 101 Hey brotha, so i got my 2 Pb 16 Ultras yesterday, I'm not getting enough bass from any of the subs? Both of the subs db is on 0... Denon input level is on 12db.... Something is wrong, my 2 Klipsch 15s hit harder....do you know what this is ?
Thank!!
You need to call or chat with SVS, I haven't had any experience with them yet, but not having enough bass is definitely incorrect!
Bro you sound like Dave Mustaine from Megadeth
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You are KILLIING me.
Good grief, man.
if come two wires better put in subwoofer two , what are you doing
nonsense ;
What?
you NOT RIGHT