Hey Folks, Just as an update, I found that the Teraflex links began to be noisy, possibly due to lack of greasing on my part, so I replaced the kit completely, buy using the AEV links that came with the 2" lift kit. Cheers.
Hi Cheaper Jeeper, Love your videos. To clarify, you no longer have quick disconnects. Is that correct? You chose to go back to the AEV links. I have the AEV lift as well and was considering the teraflex qd’s, but I would hate the noise.
@@kingspecialized Yes, I put the AEV links on. They are great quality. I can't really recommend the Teraflex links because, you'd need to regularly maintain them by greasing them up. I'm not really going off road much that would require a quick disconnect anyways.
Great job with the installation and production of the video. It's obvious you put a lot of research and work into making this. They won't let me give it 2 thumbs up.
Genius! Your video helped SO much to visualize how these installs work. I'm going to try disconnecting my stock links first and take it for a drive, so to have a better idea of how much difference it will make. If good, I'll try the clevis pin hardware option you showed in your Tip list. There are lots of times that I'm camping where I'd leave the sway bar disconnected for the whole trip, since it's all off-roading we're doing. Thanks for helping, safe Jeepin'!
I know you changed out this one for another but I want to tell you how much I Appreciate your videos. I didn't what to take a Angle griner to my frame and do Appreciate the links that need no cutting.
I started watching several of your videos. You do great videos. I think in time your videos will gain traction in the Jeeping community. Great work! Keep it up!
Hey Cobracarrera21, It's good to get some background info before making such an expensive purchase. Feel free to check out the 100,000 km review video. Cheers.
I really like this design as it doesn't require grinding off the one flange on the passenger side that other kits require you to do. I see the sway bar arms are now much higher than with the stock links because the mounts on the brackets are higher. Any change in on-road handling because of this?
Hey Scott. No change with the handling at all. I agree with the concern about cutting off the flange, as you stated. However, the Nylon(?) bushings in these sway bar links wore out and started to make a knocking noise, and I have since removed them. Perhaps greasing more regularly would have helped them? I don't know. I hope my answer helped. Cheers.
@@CheaperJeeperTV Yes that does help. And I only now realize you have a 2" lift which I don't have which would make it even higher. Sorry to hear about the bushings, that seems like something Teraflex should warranty, that doesn't seem right after less than a year (or so). What kit did you end up going with? Just back to the AEV without quick disconnect? I might just try the DIY with the clevis pins to see how that works.
Hey Scott, Yes, I ended up using the links that came with the AEV lift kit. They seemed of good quality. Incidentally, any off-roading I've done since, which were moderate trails, I just didn't bother disconnecting them. The clevis pin is something I'd consider as well. Good luck in whichever direction you chose. Cheers.
Hey I really like your videos on Jeep JLU! Forgive me if it’s been asked before I’m wondering if you have a spreadsheet or a link for factory torque values? I seem to find mixed results.
Hey Ryan, Thank you for the feedback on the videos. As for torque specss, I use the ones posted on this forum...www.jlwranglerforums.com/complete-torque-values-for-jeep-jl-wrangler/. It says its from the manual, but I can't verify anything. I hope that helps. Cheers.
I dont like the angle of the passenger side bar. It put excessive stress on the lower joint and blew it out prematurely. I dont see that problem on the JKS ones. Have you had a similar experience?
@@CheaperJeeperTV I greased and re-tourqed. Was making clunking noises and floppy within a few thousand miles. I guess that's why others (like JKs) remove that tab.
I bought this one first also but found that the sway bar is very high. I thought it should be closer to parallel or just a little on the up side. What are your thoughts on this?
Hey Randy, I looked at that when I researched before installing the sway bar links. Some comments in RUclips videos say it is ok at that angle. I imagine that if it was a real issue, I would hope to have come across many comments to that effect. Seeing that there were few to none negative comments I also assumed it would still work fine. Should I learn different I’ll post a comment later on this video. Thanks for watching.
You are supposed to keep the factory sway bar angle -- the sway bar should be a few degrees higher than horizontal -- the way it's pictured in this video is entirely incorrect and will negatively affect ride quality on road. I use JKS adjustable sway bar disconnects - (or any adjustable set will work!) The benefit of which is that you have the best of both - on road and off road performance.
I have mine almost horizontally and it seems to be moving too much side to side what’s the difference having the sway bar more of an angle degrees up compare to less? I need mine to be a little more stiffer
No. However, they didn’t hold up well. They eventually started making noise so I replaced them with the sway bar links that came with the AEV lift I installed. Perhaps I needed to grease the Teraflex ones more?🤷🏻♂️
So I’ve been considering this kit but also have reservations. What’s your honest opinion considering my concern? So I know it’s rates from 0-4.5 lifts. However many of us with no to minimal lift have made concerns about the sway bar arms being way too high when connected due to the links being too long. Those with higher lifts than 2.5 already don’t have many issues with this (possibly yourself). I’ve heard when the sway bar is high and not close to parallel, it can cause ride discomfort amoung other things. I’ve heard of people with the Mopar 2” lift even complain about the length of the links. I only have a 1.5 front leveling kit so I’m sure I’d come across that issue as well. I plan to get the Mopar lift eventually but as stated I still may have the issue even with that amount since it’s a minimal lift. So I’m kind of stuck. I like the idea of quick disconnecting but don’t want other issues. I have a JT Overland and love the ride quality. Don’t want to compromise anything. Besides, reading through the comments it appears you have now possibly got rid of the links. If so were/are you able to use the link that come with the lift kit, to use on the brackets for the Teraflex kit? Or will the teraflex brackets and pins only work with the links teraflex provides?
Hey Sarge, I got rid of the TeraFlex links. The bushings started making noise. Perhaps they needed to be greased sooner than I realized. I just now use the links from the AEV lift kit, and all is well. They also do not need to be greased like the TreFlex ones did. I hope this helped. Cheers.
@@CheaperJeeperTV thanks for the reply. One last question. Are you using your AEV links with the rest of the Teraflex disconnect kit (brackets, pins) ? Or did you just get rid of the whole Teraflex kit. Basically I’m trying to determine if other links that possibly come with normal lift kits can work and fit on the brackets and pins. It only seems that people are some kind of having issues with the links. However I like the idea of the rest of the kit.
Hey Edward, From what I have read on forums, it is ok. As long as it doesn’t angle downward with the risk of it hyperextending and flipping forward after you hit a bump. Cheers.
Everything in my mechanical intuition says that the passenger Side quick disconnect post is “Incorrect “.. I have the same.. Upon installation I looked at how it Lines up.. / Just doesn’t sit well with me
@@CheaperJeeperTV happy Easter.. The post for the disconnect seems to Me would be better facing the inside.. I don’t know if that flag nut gets in the way.. but I may be game to grinding the flag.. Oh and the bracket’s probably Aren’t necessary for stock height..🤔
Well, the Jeep I have now is a different one than the one in that video so there’s not much I can do to have a look at it now anyway. Thanks for the insight though. Cheers.
Horrible product. I had it on my jeep for almost a year, very easy to disconnect very very frustrated to connect. Jeep have to be completely level to contact back, if not fully level you have to put rock, wood etc under the tire to get the link to go in back to the bracket. Waste of time. specially after wheeling . Just install antirock sway bar. Worth any penny.
Hey Dotan, Thanks for sharing. I kept a breaker bar behind my seat and used it to leverage the link to the pin. But you're right, it's an extra step that can be a hassle. The Antirock sway bar is a little more money, but it sure would be more convenient. Thanks again. Cheers.
Hey Folks,
Just as an update, I found that the Teraflex links began to be noisy, possibly due to lack of greasing on my part, so I replaced the kit completely, buy using the AEV links that came with the 2" lift kit.
Cheers.
Hi Cheaper Jeeper,
Love your videos. To clarify, you no longer have quick disconnects. Is that correct? You chose to go back to the AEV links. I have the AEV lift as well and was considering the teraflex qd’s, but I would hate the noise.
@@kingspecialized Yes, I put the AEV links on. They are great quality. I can't really recommend the Teraflex links because, you'd need to regularly maintain them by greasing them up. I'm not really going off road much that would require a quick disconnect anyways.
Metalcloak is better
@@SanshokuCustoms I could have benefitted by from your suggestion back then!..lol. 😆
@@CheaperJeeperTV jajajaa
Great job with the installation and production of the video. It's obvious you put a lot of research and work into making this. They won't let me give it 2 thumbs up.
LOL. Hey Randy, thank you very much. I'm glad you liked the video. Cheers.
I own a rubicon with the electric disconnect so I don't know why I watched this video except I appreciate your work and videos
Hey J Wat, lol that’s awesome! Thanks.
Genius! Your video helped SO much to visualize how these installs work. I'm going to try disconnecting my stock links first and take it for a drive, so to have a better idea of how much difference it will make. If good, I'll try the clevis pin hardware option you showed in your Tip list. There are lots of times that I'm camping where I'd leave the sway bar disconnected for the whole trip, since it's all off-roading we're doing. Thanks for helping, safe Jeepin'!
Hey Carol,
That’s awesome!
Cheers
There are other reviews that show the amazon clevis pin ruined their link.
Thanks for the info.
I know you changed out this one for another but I want to tell you how much I Appreciate your videos. I didn't what to take a Angle griner to my frame and do Appreciate the links that need no cutting.
Hey melviin5818,
Thank you for the feedback on my videos. I really appreciate it.
Cheers my friend!
That Clevis Pin you show @19:50 they are strong enough. Those are used on Farm Tractors in the agriculture industry.
Hey TwoFeatherChannel, Awesome. That’s good to know. Thank you.
Thanks for this great video. More helpful than the Teraflex install video ! My install went smoothly.
Hey Stewart, Thank you for saying so. I’m glad the video was helpful. Cheers.
Great video, just had the teraflex links installed. Thanks
Hey Doomsday Defense,
That's awesome. I'm glad you found the video helpful.
Cheers.
I started watching several of your videos. You do great videos. I think in time your videos will gain traction in the Jeeping community. Great work! Keep it up!
Hey Todd, I appreciate it. Feel free to share. lol. Cheers.
Great job on the install, it will make it even better for you for off roading!
Hey TrailWalker, Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I'm looking forward to getting out on a trail or two now that things are beginning to ease up. Cheers.
Thanks for always sharing all this well detailed knowledge. It's very helpful..
Hey Cobracarrera21, I'm glad you're finding the videos helpful. Cheers.
@@CheaperJeeperTV learning all I can before I purchase a Jeep. The prices just need to come down...lol...
Hey Cobracarrera21, It's good to get some background info before making such an expensive purchase. Feel free to check out the 100,000 km review video. Cheers.
What a great video, after seeing this video I went out and bought this exact kit. Your videos have made my life easier, thanks so much Dino. ~Johnny
Hey Johnny, That’s awesome. Thanks for the feedback also. Cheers.
Hey Dino, check some pof you affilate links. Not working Error 404 to the Teraflex site. Great video, this is the one I got. Thanks!
Hey John,
I appreciate it. I’ll check it out. Cheers.
I really like this design as it doesn't require grinding off the one flange on the passenger side that other kits require you to do. I see the sway bar arms are now much higher than with the stock links because the mounts on the brackets are higher. Any change in on-road handling because of this?
Hey Scott.
No change with the handling at all. I agree with the concern about cutting off the flange, as you stated. However, the Nylon(?) bushings in these sway bar links wore out and started to make a knocking noise, and I have since removed them. Perhaps greasing more regularly would have helped them? I don't know. I hope my answer helped. Cheers.
@@CheaperJeeperTV Yes that does help. And I only now realize you have a 2" lift which I don't have which would make it even higher. Sorry to hear about the bushings, that seems like something Teraflex should warranty, that doesn't seem right after less than a year (or so). What kit did you end up going with? Just back to the AEV without quick disconnect? I might just try the DIY with the clevis pins to see how that works.
Hey Scott,
Yes, I ended up using the links that came with the AEV lift kit. They seemed of good quality.
Incidentally, any off-roading I've done since, which were moderate trails, I just didn't bother disconnecting them. The clevis pin is something I'd consider as well.
Good luck in whichever direction you chose.
Cheers.
Hey I really like your videos on Jeep JLU! Forgive me if it’s been asked before I’m wondering if you have a spreadsheet or a link for factory torque values? I seem to find mixed results.
Hey Ryan,
Thank you for the feedback on the videos. As for torque specss, I use the ones posted on this forum...www.jlwranglerforums.com/complete-torque-values-for-jeep-jl-wrangler/. It says its from the manual, but I can't verify anything. I hope that helps.
Cheers.
@@CheaperJeeperTV thank you! You are a great resource for Jeepers!
I dont like the angle of the passenger side bar. It put excessive stress on the lower joint and blew it out prematurely. I dont see that problem on the JKS ones. Have you had a similar experience?
Yes. Mine blew out, and I thought it was due to not adding grease. Good assessment on your part.
@@CheaperJeeperTV I greased and re-tourqed. Was making clunking noises and floppy within a few thousand miles. I guess that's why others (like JKs) remove that tab.
What great video! Thank you! You have a new subscriber
Hey Alex, Thank you so much for the feedback. I'm glad you found the video helpful. Cheers.
Good job/video !
Hey RB, Thank you for the feedback. Much appreciated. Cheers.
Good job Dino.
Hey Jeff, Thank you very much. Thanks for watching. Cheers.
Great video as usual 👍
Hey Mohssen, thank you for the feedback. Cheers.
very nice and clear info, do you have a lift in your Jeep or just stock?
Hey JBM, I have this lift. ruclips.net/video/KHPQtUWSc10/видео.html
Cheers.
I bought this one first also but found that the sway bar is very high. I thought it should be closer to parallel or just a little on the up side. What are your thoughts on this?
Hey Randy, I looked at that when I researched before installing the sway bar links. Some comments in RUclips videos say it is ok at that angle. I imagine that if it was a real issue, I would hope to have come across many comments to that effect. Seeing that there were few to none negative comments I also assumed it would still work fine. Should I learn different I’ll post a comment later on this video. Thanks for watching.
You are supposed to keep the factory sway bar angle -- the sway bar should be a few degrees higher than horizontal -- the way it's pictured in this video is entirely incorrect and will negatively affect ride quality on road. I use JKS adjustable sway bar disconnects - (or any adjustable set will work!) The benefit of which is that you have the best of both - on road and off road performance.
I have mine almost horizontally and it seems to be moving too much side to side what’s the difference having the sway bar more of an angle degrees up compare to less? I need mine to be a little more stiffer
I don’t believe it should be moving side to side. That is something I’d have checked out.
Do you have a video of it in action?
No. However, they didn’t hold up well. They eventually started making noise so I replaced them with the sway bar links that came with the AEV lift I installed.
Perhaps I needed to grease the Teraflex ones more?🤷🏻♂️
So I’ve been considering this kit but also have reservations. What’s your honest opinion considering my concern? So I know it’s rates from 0-4.5 lifts. However many of us with no to minimal lift have made concerns about the sway bar arms being way too high when connected due to the links being too long. Those with higher lifts than 2.5 already don’t have many issues with this (possibly yourself). I’ve heard when the sway bar is high and not close to parallel, it can cause ride discomfort amoung other things. I’ve heard of people with the Mopar 2” lift even complain about the length of the links. I only have a 1.5 front leveling kit so I’m sure I’d come across that issue as well. I plan to get the Mopar lift eventually but as stated I still may have the issue even with that amount since it’s a minimal lift. So I’m kind of stuck. I like the idea of quick disconnecting but don’t want other issues. I have a JT Overland and love the ride quality. Don’t want to compromise anything. Besides, reading through the comments it appears you have now possibly got rid of the links. If so were/are you able to use the link that come with the lift kit, to use on the brackets for the Teraflex kit? Or will the teraflex brackets and pins only work with the links teraflex provides?
Hey Sarge,
I got rid of the TeraFlex links. The bushings started making noise. Perhaps they needed to be greased sooner than I realized.
I just now use the links from the AEV lift kit, and all is well. They also do not need to be greased like the TreFlex ones did.
I hope this helped.
Cheers.
@@CheaperJeeperTV thanks for the reply. One last question. Are you using your AEV links with the rest of the Teraflex disconnect kit (brackets, pins) ? Or did you just get rid of the whole Teraflex kit. Basically I’m trying to determine if other links that possibly come with normal lift kits can work and fit on the brackets and pins. It only seems that people are some kind of having issues with the links. However I like the idea of the rest of the kit.
Hey Sarge,
I got rid of the whole Teraflex kit completely, and am just using the AEV links.
Which swaybar disconnect kit did you change to?
I installed the ones that came with the AEV lift.
I thought the sway bar was supposed to be level. Yours was a a large angle up. Is that ok?
Hey Edward, From what I have read on forums, it is ok. As long as it doesn’t angle downward with the risk of it hyperextending and flipping forward after you hit a bump.
Cheers.
Everything in my mechanical intuition says that the passenger
Side quick disconnect post is
“Incorrect “.. I have the same..
Upon installation I looked at how it
Lines up.. / Just doesn’t sit well with me
What is it specifically that you believe needs to be corrected?
@@CheaperJeeperTV happy Easter..
The post for the disconnect seems to
Me would be better facing the inside..
I don’t know if that flag nut gets in the way.. but I may be game to grinding the flag.. Oh and the bracket’s probably
Aren’t necessary for stock height..🤔
No.. still need bracket’s stock.. lol
Well, the Jeep I have now is a different one than the one in that video so there’s not much I can do to have a look at it now anyway. Thanks for the insight though. Cheers.
Horrible product. I had it on my jeep for almost a year, very easy to disconnect very very frustrated to connect. Jeep have to be completely level to contact back, if not fully level you have to put rock, wood etc under the tire to get the link to go in back to the bracket. Waste of time. specially after wheeling .
Just install antirock sway bar. Worth any penny.
Hey Dotan, Thanks for sharing. I kept a breaker bar behind my seat and used it to leverage the link to the pin. But you're right, it's an extra step that can be a hassle. The Antirock sway bar is a little more money, but it sure would be more convenient. Thanks again. Cheers.