With Ryan's ruclips.net/user/postUgkxy_pn55PK60wAV3X_C_RoLS_67mNonoCE plan I was like one taken by the hand and led step by step from start to finish. Thank you very much Ryan!
only things i can say for sure 100% is ; Hitachi (Metabo HPT) is the best framing nailer to me. i tried all three nailers in this video. I dropped all other two nailers. I was so frustrated with jamming, misfire, non-flushing nails, etc issues. i will never go back again to other two nailers, even someone gives big money to use them. Those issues while you are working, takes away your precious time. Only Hitachi framing nailer is the one that makes me satisfied. No jams, no misfires, all nails you fired flushed through so far. I love this nailer. I have been using hitachi nailer about a year.
The hitachi gun is space-age. I've run about 500 nails so far and not a single jam, not a single proud nail. Used a Dewalt gun that jammed about 10 times (knots and awkward angles cause the most jamming) and had trouble fully sinking 3 - 1/2" nails without being proud.
I teach building trades class and we purchased a couple of the Milwaukee M 18 framing nailers and they fire the nail as soon as you pull trigger, No waiting to spool up. The nailer has a very large rafter hook. It also can be adjusted for depth of the nail, in pine lumber they will drive nails about a 1/2 '' in depth. Good nailers!!
*Used this nail gun for framing my basement and it worked great **MyBest.Tools** Two downsides are weight and its not a 30 degree. For the cost it was perfect for completing my project. Worth every dime.*
The Hitachi is my favorite cordless tool i've bought to date. Quick tip, I oil the spring and slides monthly. Working around dirt will make the spring to snag when it gets dirty and the nails don't feed right causing blank fires and the nails to shoot sideways.
some tools come out every few years that make you think wow how did i ever do without this, like impact drivers, tracksaws, etc, the hitachi nail gun is my latest one
I tried a Milwaukee cordless finish nailer and returned it. Bought a Dewalt framer and returned it. Bought a Bostitch cordless framer (28-degree wire weld as thats what I have pneumatic nails for) and returned it. The Hitachis are the only ones I like. It feels very similar to a pneumatic gun, and has NO problem sinking 3-1/2" framing nails even in the hard dense woods of my barn. They're great! In the last week got a 15ga finish, 16ga finish and a 18ga brad nailer.
Definitely. I have all Milwaukee cordless, except I had to go to Hitachi for the nailers. I have some minor complaints, but overall they work exactly as I had hoped a cordless nailer to work. I don't like the buttons or status display. The nail magazines are not my favorite when it comes time to removing nails to switch sizes or something. I have yet to need to clear a jam on any of them... so I can't comment on that process. Otherwise - incredible!
I am buying 2 of the Hitachi 21 degree cordless framing nailers. I have mostly all Hitachi stuff already, the new Hitachi 36 volt batteries are backward compatible with the 18 volt tools, instead of getting 36 volts, you get double amp hours, so 8 amp hours on one battery. Hitachi all the way!
Didn't understand that rafter hanger at first, but it hangs nicely on window sills, headers, ladder rungs, top of walls, ladder blocks and other random blocking. All those places we wished we could hang the typical rafter hanger in the past. I think its great, I didnt think so at first.
I bought the hitachi a couple of weeks ago, it’s a freakin beast, shoots 90mm nails into high grade lvl all day long never leaves one proud, will never use my paslode again
I got the Hitachi and absolutely love it. It's bulky and slightly heavy, but no compressor and air hose is amazing. Doesn't have a large capacity which is a negative. Also appears to be a pain to clear a jam which I have yet to have. Great review!!
I just switched all of my framing crews over to complete battery milwaukee. From nail gun to 7 1/4 saws. Best decision every. Takes about 3months per crew to be back in the black on tool purchasing. Time saved on rool up and roll out is great. Air is just now a backup resource.
You're the 2nd reviewer I've watched that has the hanger wrong, you can use it wide for throwing over joists etc or just rotated it 180 and it becomes thinner on the other side. Serves to protect the battery as it wraps over it also.
I purchased the dewalt 30 deg Thurs morning by 20 clips of 2 3/8" nails it lock jammed (nail missed going out and locked upd) 6 times on a roof decking and it wouldn't set up to flush for my zip board ...it WAS returned by evening and purchased the Hitachi 30 deg.....due to a storm, I haven't gotten to use except testing. It sounded and felt much stronger. I just started using the Zip board and this "flush nail" recommendation I couldn't consistantly acquire with the 2nd gen Paslode 15 deg framer.
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I remember back in the day, when a Hitachi NR83 was around $400, and most guys were still swatting nails the hard way. Nowadays, anybody can afford a pneumatic gun, even if it's a brand no one's ever heard of. We've come a long way. I bought a DeWalt about a year ago, and I could barely believe that a battery-powered framer was even a real thing. The mechanical system that makes it work is a miracle unto itself, and it still amazes me that it actually *does* work. I've got a few dozen DeWalt tools and plenty of batteries, so I'm hesitant to buy anything that runs on a whole different battery platform, but I must admit, if the DeWalt ever craps out on me. I'd be really tempted to go green.
Look at the way that the paslodes hook is attached. It's kinda swivels so when you want to hang it on the rafter it is long and when it's closed it makes it possible to hang on your pants, just like a drill. It's pretty smart.
The Hitachi, now called Metablo (Got mine at Lowes 399) may be cheaper somewhere else, it is a incredible gun so far, one of the best as of 4/8/20. No ramp up time, a little heavy, but drives the nail incredible.
We now have 2 Hitachi guns, best investment. Another thing to mention is the power of the Hitachi compared to the paslode, especially when shooting into LVLs or glulams. Hitachi wins any day of the week. We also have 1 gun with big rafter hook for hanging over brick walls and 1 with small hook for hanging on rafters. The small hook comes off the 16g brad gun.
@@migueldejesusolivares5607 reading through the comments someone posted saying they oil the spring on a monthly basis so it feeds the nails right otherwise they shoot out sideways on him
Still have the old Bostich air gun for big nail days, have the same paslode and still love it for interior walls and last year i bought the new dewalt spiker, very good working gun, bit heavy and your right the rafter hook sucks. Not so bad I don’t use it every day, you just have to be aware of it. Funny how we had the same framing nailer transition....lol
I'm 53 and have invested in Senco framers as well as my old Porter cable framers from years ago when they were still quality. I run a nice oiled compressor and also have Senco, Bostich and PC finish nailers. I'm just not going to invest thousands of follars replacing guns at my age. I have a lot of battery tools, but I'll stick with air and hoses even though I know they can be annoying
Great comparison and demo of the various technologies over the years. I remember seeing the Paslode nailer on This Old House years ago when they first came out. It certainly was a game changer.
The first Paslode gun I saw were used in the roofing industry. The guns needed constant cleanings and rebuilds. The company my brother-in-law worked for purchased 8 of the coil nailers for their crews and in a lot of cases, the guns needed repair after about 50 square of shingles. They've improved a lot, from back then. I'm still using my pneumatic Bostitch RN45 for roofing and siding and a couple of 28 degree Bostitch framers. I like the cord, as it makes it more difficult for the gun to take a tumble, and I can constantly be injecting oil into the line to keep running trouble free. I am going to look for one of the Fasco guns that will shoot the 6" nails. They're expensive, but I figure I'll use it for my build, then think about selling when complete. Who am I kidding, I don't sell tools?
The crazy framer was using the dewalt in some crazy below zero weather and the dewalt failed miserably. He has beat his pasload to death and he is an animal when it comes to framing. Pasload in his hands looks to reign supreme. He is on RUclips and frames houses by himself. CRAZY FRAMER.
I’ve used the Paslode nailer and didn’t like it at all. While it is the lightest of the hose-less nailers and works decently well, there were too many cons. Expensive, constant maintenance, and the gas smell and refilling is not my cup of tea. The nailer also jammed regularly; strangely enough hitachi nails worked best in it as all other nails would constantly jam. I’ve also used the Bostich battery framer, for like one day before taking it back. Really can’t say anything good about it. It was slow firing, heavy, took long to spool up, and didn’t sink nails fully. The best thing I’ve done is to buy the hitachi nailer. Right out of the box it worked like a charm-quick firing, maintenance free, and the 3Ah batteries charge super fast. So fast in fact that you’ll only ever need 2 batteries, as the second one will be fully charged before you drain the one you’re using. While it is labeled as a clipped head nailer, I’ve also fired full head nails out of it without missing a beat. The auto-off feature can get a bit annoying but I think the biggest drawback to it, which is something that affects almost all current hose-less nailers, is the weight. Using this gun daily in a production environment could get very tiring. On the plus side, you won’t need a gym to build forearm muscles.
I frame for a living, I never had any luck with cordless nailers. All toys that just didn’t last in a production setting. I wasted a lot of money for these over the years. I will occasionally use a cordless when bracing rafters. Otherwise a pneumatic is the way to go.
DeWalt just released a new framing nailer yesterday. Seems pretty nice. Hitachi is now renamed Metabo here in US. I'm hoping Hitachi does not start carrying Metabo prices. I hate yet to see a cordless nailgun work as fast as a pneumatic. But I dont frame or roof for a living so I dont need speed.
I bought 2 new Dewalt nailes like the one you are showing and the bump mode did not work on either of these. The one also jammed constantly on #8 nails. I took both back and bought a Hitachi and have had no issues with it. I have a friend that also has a Hitachi for 5+ years and never has had a jam with it on #16 nor #8. I don't like the head/activating foot as well on the Hitachi as the prongs are shorter so it is harder to activate it in tight places where the gun needs to be tilted back for nailing.
Hi, A good addition to your talk on these battery guns, is to advise when you buy one of these battery / flywheel/ belt driven nailers, buy a few parts like the drive belt, drive pin etc ( parts that are likely to need replacing) Reason for this is when your gun stops working in 5 years time, some parts might not be available / hence throw it away. But if you had those parts , you could extend the life of the gun x 2 . Then throw it away.
I run a dewalt framer for punch work, I’ve fired 1000’s of nails through the first one before it went down. Ended up buying a 2nd definitely worth it. I use dewalt and Milwaukee tools so I have plenty of batteries. Don’t know why people don’t like them. I now run 3 for framing punch on huge apartments. I like how the hitachi seems even better just hate how I wouldn’t have extra batteries. I also own dewalts trim nailer 18 gauge and works well too. I still have several paslodes but only run them when I have a bigger crews with now power near by.
Try all into oak or in 1 inch exterior ply . Try nailing a timber into a block wall . All are fine on soft wood or general work . But very hard materials like 1 inch exterior ply the paslode is the best
10:34 The battery compresses the cylinder by driving the piston into the cylinder and squeezing the trigger releases the piston which then shoots out due to the high pressure
I bought the Hitachi nail gun last year or as it is now called hikoki, only because the warranty purpose which is 6 years, used it for a lot of tasks making decking, renovations, can say it is a beast eyes closed however it is very heavy compared to the paslode but that is not a bother due to not using it consistently
cordless framers are good for punchlist stuff. For any real framing you still cant beat a pneumatic coil framer. Ive been running my Bostitch n80 coil nailer daily for over 20 years. It has never let me down. I just do a yearly o ring replace as well a new trigger.
I have the Paslode framing nailer and everything you said is true about it. Then I also have the trim nailer which the battery looks the same but will only work in it's own machine, This is my second Paslode framing nailer. I noticed on trimming nailer the gas bottle should be remove or it drains away.I had a coil nail gun which ran off an air hose, that thing was so touchy might have 3 nails back to back come out
Most kiwi builders have been using the Paslode battery/gas nailers 10-15 years now... only on the really big commercial sites you may see the odd compressor and pneumatic nailer, but even then most are cordless. Only in the last few years are we now starting to switch to the battery compressed air nailers, like the DeWalt or Hitachi. I have the Hitachi nailer and love it
I have the very first Paslode they came out with and its still going strong. I will admit I don't take the best care of it so its been tough. I think I have cleaned and oiled it 1 time since I bought it. It is aggerating having to make sure you have the battery charged but I bought and extra so I always have a hot one.
I owned two Paslodes. Sold both of them. Initially very handy. But required constant servicing and was forever cleaning the chamber and ports due to the gas process forming soot that clung to the internal parts. Went back to air.
I just bought a Hitachi collated screw gun on close out at Lowe’s. I was really concerned that my Hitachi tools would be useless since they got bought out. The customer service staff at Metabo assured me they are keeping all of Hitachi’s parts in stock for at least 10 years and that all the batteries will be the same on both platforms. So if you run Hitachi batteries, scoot down to Lowe’s and buy them up at close out costs.
Bought a Milwaukee 16 gauge, one thing I like is no ramp up time like I with noticed with makita. I'm not sure about others ramp up time, but Milwaukee has zero. I wish the tip was more narrow,
Love the Metabo, but hate the power button. I mostly only use Metabo, so I am going to keep rolling with it, but many times I am not in a good position to turn the gun back on when I am trying to shoot.
Thank you for your review. I'm looking for a hoseless framing gun at present. I have a dinosaur paslode. I've been holding out for Senco to make a framer like their hoseless fusion line up. I absolutely love my fusion trim gun. It's similar to the Hitachi in that it uses a recycled nitogen filled cylinder. I'm new to your channel but you might be interested in the fusion gun.
Milwaukees battery powered nailers are very disapointing in my opinion. Personally I'm not blindly loyal to any particular brand. (Except Makita skill-saws lol). Anyway doesn't Bosch make a cordless nailer. I'd like to see a review on them
Man I’ve just come across your channel and I’ve been watching your videos flat out for days. Your gun review is spot on, I run a prefab panel operation and we use pneumatic hitachi nailers in the factory and I have 2 that have done probably 6 million nails and only had to replace one hammer so far. We have some paslodes but they won’t sink a nail into lvl which we use exclusively so for site erection I end up having to set up the compressor and run lines. Tried the dewalt and took it back after an hour as it left the nails 15mm proud and it jammed ALOT. I’ve been looking at the hitachi and think I’ll be off to get one now.
That hitachi rafter hook....😂😭😂hillarious, im a 20 year renovator and a " professional" youtuber , and i just found your channel ! Awesome content and god dam that garage of yours is what dreams are made of
My boss bought 3 Milwaukee framing nailers a year and a half ago and all 3 of them have been to Milwaukee atleast twice because they would grind gears or wouldn't sinks nails
I want to buy a makita cordless nailer for my carpenter for Christmas. Specifically one for trimming windows. Also what Mak 18v nailer is suggested for installed cedar siding shingles ? Thanks
I still choose a gas nailer over the battery powered ones..... in terms of performance and weight they outperform anything else on the market. The money for gas is insignificant as I cost in into the job. I would consider a battery powered 16g brad nailer as weight is not an issue for finished carpentry. But for a first fix nail gun, when i'm climbing around on a roof stepping on joists and rafters i prefer the light weight of the gas nailer.
Unfortunate we still can't get any coil nailer, framing or siding, in the cordless variety beyond DeWalt's DCN45RNB one trick pony. It would be interesting to see a follow up on this using would dense material such as pressure treated lumber.
Great comparison. I wish you would have shot the pneumatic nailer side by side as well. I have an old HITACHI NR83A3 framing nailer, still works great, but I don't do much framing anymore, mostly office renovations these days, so next to no framing. The idea of a hoseless or cordless framing nailer is welcome, I doubt I'll ever be in the market, but your comparison is certainly useful, thanks! Cheers from Tokyo
Looks like Amazon shows the Hitachi framer as discontinued by the manufacturer, yet it's still for sale. Not many to choose from other than what you have, all good n the 350 range, good video man, Jimmy is awesome btw
There is a video on youtube of a worker who has been using the hitachi cordless framer and after 2 years it barely puts nails into wood. I'm concerned now about mine doing the same.
I do like my dewalt so versatile with other tools in the same platform, Hitachi have always had great pneumatic nailers and this gun looks to keep that trend going 👍
The only thing I don't like about the hook is it can fold out wide when walking with it clipped to your tool belt. Or climbing ladders. When working it's fine . Once it folded over it's the same as a smaller hook essentially
35 year in the auto tech in the industry good tools makes a productive worker ..........looking to jump on board on My first a framing nail gun,would you recommend this ? is this version of the hitachi a clipped or round head version ? Doing a lot of research......seems like the Pasload been around and Specificly in the area of framing .....who’s better in warranties and customer service also is top criteria
Paslode Fuel cells supposed to last around 1000 nails. But paslode is best in my opinion not as bulky and uncomfortable to carry around all day. Batteries are good that they can't be used in anything else so you know you always have a battery in your gun
I've used the paselode nailer in the last and I will say, the smell in an enclosed space can become a bit nauseating. It was by far the lightest though. I'm currently looking at a metabo 30 degree cordless, but at nearly 11lbs it's a put off....
Hello, So what is a ballpark figure on the gas cylinders and does it need special nails? How many nails per cylinder? Do you have to go to a dealer to get the cylinders? Interesting video especially for a guy still using pneumatic. Take care. Doug
I’ve got a 15 gauge nailer from hitachi ( pneumatic ) and it is my second one. It is a pc of junk. It has given me so many problems. The depth is inconsistent. And it more often than not stays clamped onto the nail that it ragishly spits out. I took first one back and now I’ve accidentally held onto this one long enough to have lost the receipt on.
1. Oil your gun before using it. 2. Use Hitachi, Senco, or Grip-Rite nails. If you do those two things and you still have the same issues, then you got two duds in a row and are therefore one of the unluckiest men alive, because the Hitachi NT65MA series is the gold standard among 15ga nailers.
With that green thing on the side it looks like the hitachi is biased towards right handed people. But maybe it’s doesn’t get in the way if your left handed?
Should talk about the degree of nailer & why chose it..... Would be interesting to hear that, along w/ availability of fasteners etc... Also, maybe a new vid w/ new Milwaukee nailers coming out....update to this vid, maybe? Thx for vid👍🏻
Gotcha. Now I need to purchase the trim gun. My framer is a week old and I have experience a lot of nails failing to set. It had been cold this week. Wondering if it needs a break in period to function 100%. Thanks.
Have been using hitachi nails. Grabbed some generic nails at weeks end that seem to set much better. Any input on nail type? Have not ran hot dipped yet. I’m hoping no issues with the galvies.
@@RRBuildings i guess i am late to 100k i see its on 200k now so where is the video for all the tools did you make it yet by the way this is the first video i watched on your channel and subbed already i am sure every other video you have as good as this one
With Ryan's ruclips.net/user/postUgkxy_pn55PK60wAV3X_C_RoLS_67mNonoCE plan I was like one taken by the hand and led step by step from start to finish. Thank you very much Ryan!
only things i can say for sure 100% is ;
Hitachi (Metabo HPT) is the best framing nailer to me. i tried all three nailers in this video. I dropped all other two nailers. I was so frustrated with jamming, misfire, non-flushing nails, etc issues. i will never go back again to other two nailers, even someone gives big money to use them. Those issues while you are working, takes away your precious time. Only Hitachi framing nailer is the one that makes me satisfied. No jams, no misfires, all nails you fired flushed through so far. I love this nailer. I have been using hitachi nailer about a year.
The hitachi gun is space-age. I've run about 500 nails so far and not a single jam, not a single proud nail. Used a Dewalt gun that jammed about 10 times (knots and awkward angles cause the most jamming) and had trouble fully sinking 3 - 1/2" nails without being proud.
I teach building trades class and we purchased a couple of the Milwaukee M 18 framing nailers and they fire the nail as soon as you pull trigger, No waiting to spool up. The nailer has a very large rafter hook. It also can be adjusted for depth of the nail, in pine lumber they will drive nails about a 1/2 '' in depth. Good nailers!!
Should check out Metabo HPT's new 36V guns , they r ridiculously effecient
*Used this nail gun for framing my basement and it worked great **MyBest.Tools** Two downsides are weight and its not a 30 degree. For the cost it was perfect for completing my project. Worth every dime.*
The Hitachi is my favorite cordless tool i've bought to date. Quick tip, I oil the spring and slides monthly. Working around dirt will make the spring to snag when it gets dirty and the nails don't feed right causing blank fires and the nails to shoot sideways.
Дмитрий, подскажите пожалуйста, надежен ли этот аккумуляторный нейлер Хитачи? Хочется приобрести его, так как Деволт не устраивает качеством
How do you clean this? I'm having this issue
I'm not an expert but the mechanism of each one were explained clear and detailed. Very useful for decision making. Thank you Kyle.
Hitachi has a 21 degree battery nailer too. If you have 21 degree nails for your air nailers, you can use them in the Hitachi 21 degree battery gun.
some tools come out every few years that make you think wow how did i ever do without this, like impact drivers, tracksaws, etc, the hitachi nail gun is my latest one
I tried a Milwaukee cordless finish nailer and returned it. Bought a Dewalt framer and returned it. Bought a Bostitch cordless framer (28-degree wire weld as thats what I have pneumatic nails for) and returned it.
The Hitachis are the only ones I like. It feels very similar to a pneumatic gun, and has NO problem sinking 3-1/2" framing nails even in the hard dense woods of my barn.
They're great! In the last week got a 15ga finish, 16ga finish and a 18ga brad nailer.
Patrick Clochesy they are legit aren’t they
Definitely. I have all Milwaukee cordless, except I had to go to Hitachi for the nailers.
I have some minor complaints, but overall they work exactly as I had hoped a cordless nailer to work. I don't like the buttons or status display. The nail magazines are not my favorite when it comes time to removing nails to switch sizes or something. I have yet to need to clear a jam on any of them... so I can't comment on that process. Otherwise - incredible!
I am buying 2 of the Hitachi 21 degree cordless framing nailers. I have mostly all Hitachi stuff already, the new Hitachi 36 volt batteries are backward compatible with the 18 volt tools, instead of getting 36 volts, you get double amp hours, so 8 amp hours on one battery. Hitachi all the way!
Patrick Clochesy I have almost all Milwaukee tools and I too can confirm their finish nailers suck, I don’t know how they screwed it up
bostitich and dewalt are the exact same gun, both are junk too, i too love hitachi
Didn't understand that rafter hanger at first, but it hangs nicely on window sills, headers, ladder rungs, top of walls, ladder blocks and other random blocking. All those places we wished we could hang the typical rafter hanger in the past. I think its great, I didnt think so at first.
Finally, someone gets it. Hats off.
I bought the hitachi a couple of weeks ago, it’s a freakin beast, shoots 90mm nails into high grade lvl all day long never leaves one proud, will never use my paslode again
I got the Hitachi and absolutely love it. It's bulky and slightly heavy, but no compressor and air hose is amazing. Doesn't have a large capacity which is a negative. Also appears to be a pain to clear a jam which I have yet to have. Great review!!
I just switched all of my framing crews over to complete battery milwaukee. From nail gun to 7 1/4 saws. Best decision every. Takes about 3months per crew to be back in the black on tool purchasing. Time saved on rool up and roll out is great. Air is just now a backup resource.
You're the 2nd reviewer I've watched that has the hanger wrong, you can use it wide for throwing over joists etc or just rotated it 180 and it becomes thinner on the other side. Serves to protect the battery as it wraps over it also.
I purchased the dewalt 30 deg Thurs morning by 20 clips of 2 3/8" nails it lock jammed (nail missed going out and locked upd) 6 times on a roof decking and it wouldn't set up to flush for my zip board ...it WAS returned by evening and purchased the Hitachi 30 deg.....due to a storm, I haven't gotten to use except testing. It sounded and felt much stronger. I just started using the Zip board and this "flush nail" recommendation I couldn't consistantly acquire with the 2nd gen Paslode 15 deg framer.
I remember back in the day, when a Hitachi NR83 was around $400, and most guys were still swatting nails the hard way. Nowadays, anybody can afford a pneumatic gun, even if it's a brand no one's ever heard of. We've come a long way.
I bought a DeWalt about a year ago, and I could barely believe that a battery-powered framer was even a real thing. The mechanical system that makes it work is a miracle unto itself, and it still amazes me that it actually *does* work. I've got a few dozen DeWalt tools and plenty of batteries, so I'm hesitant to buy anything that runs on a whole different battery platform, but I must admit, if the DeWalt ever craps out on me. I'd be really tempted to go green.
Bought the Hitachi a month ago. It’s a little on the heavy side but I love it.
Look at the way that the paslodes hook is attached. It's kinda swivels so when you want to hang it on the rafter it is long and when it's closed it makes it possible to hang on your pants, just like a drill. It's pretty smart.
Agree
The Hitachi, now called Metablo (Got mine at Lowes 399) may be cheaper somewhere else, it is a incredible gun so far, one of the best as of 4/8/20. No ramp up time, a little heavy, but drives the nail incredible.
The Hitachi is now called Hikoki. not metablo
In california its metabo broo wheen i heard hikoki i was like wtf
I picked up that Hitachi for $25. Very impressed with it.
Your Toolsday tool reviews are getting better. The first over was a bit shaky but now you seem to be getting the hang of it. Keep on keepin on!
i have the hitachi, great unit but yeah, heavy.
it uses a closed loop compressor system which is the noise your hear after you fire a nail.
We now have 2 Hitachi guns, best investment. Another thing to mention is the power of the Hitachi compared to the paslode, especially when shooting into LVLs or glulams. Hitachi wins any day of the week. We also have 1 gun with big rafter hook for hanging over brick walls and 1 with small hook for hanging on rafters. The small hook comes off the 16g brad gun.
Josh Andrews good to here my two 14 year old paslodes are on eBay and a new hitachi is on order
Have you had any issues with your Hitachis. My gun is having problems feeding the nails.. using paper instead of plastic
@@migueldejesusolivares5607 reading through the comments someone posted saying they oil the spring on a monthly basis so it feeds the nails right otherwise they shoot out sideways on him
Still have the old Bostich air gun for big nail days, have the same paslode and still love it for interior walls and last year i bought the new dewalt spiker, very good working gun, bit heavy and your right the rafter hook sucks. Not so bad I don’t use it every day, you just have to be aware of it. Funny how we had the same framing nailer transition....lol
good comparison explanation ... had all 3 guns and still use the DeWalt most often for convenience.
I'm 53 and have invested in Senco framers as well as my old Porter cable framers from years ago when they were still quality. I run a nice oiled compressor and also have Senco, Bostich and PC finish nailers. I'm just not going to invest thousands of follars replacing guns at my age. I have a lot of battery tools, but I'll stick with air and hoses even though I know they can be annoying
Great comparison and demo of the various technologies over the years. I remember seeing the Paslode nailer on This Old House years ago when they first came out. It certainly was a game changer.
The first Paslode gun I saw were used in the roofing industry. The guns needed constant cleanings and rebuilds. The company my brother-in-law worked for purchased 8 of the coil nailers for their crews and in a lot of cases, the guns needed repair after about 50 square of shingles.
They've improved a lot, from back then.
I'm still using my pneumatic Bostitch RN45 for roofing and siding and a couple of 28 degree Bostitch framers. I like the cord, as it makes it more difficult for the gun to take a tumble, and I can constantly be injecting oil into the line to keep running trouble free.
I am going to look for one of the Fasco guns that will shoot the 6" nails. They're expensive, but I figure I'll use it for my build, then think about selling when complete. Who am I kidding, I don't sell tools?
The crazy framer was using the dewalt in some crazy below zero weather and the dewalt failed miserably. He has beat his pasload to death and he is an animal when it comes to framing. Pasload in his hands looks to reign supreme. He is on RUclips and frames houses by himself. CRAZY FRAMER.
Right on man. The crazy framer is a beast and beats the hell out of his paslode. It’s still working today. He killed the dewalt.
Maybe now he can try the new Milwaukee framer due out in October
I’ve used the Paslode nailer and didn’t like it at all. While it is the lightest of the hose-less nailers and works decently well, there were too many cons. Expensive, constant maintenance, and the gas smell and refilling is not my cup of tea. The nailer also jammed regularly; strangely enough hitachi nails worked best in it as all other nails would constantly jam. I’ve also used the Bostich battery framer, for like one day before taking it back. Really can’t say anything good about it. It was slow firing, heavy, took long to spool up, and didn’t sink nails fully. The best thing I’ve done is to buy the hitachi nailer. Right out of the box it worked like a charm-quick firing, maintenance free, and the 3Ah batteries charge super fast. So fast in fact that you’ll only ever need 2 batteries, as the second one will be fully charged before you drain the one you’re using. While it is labeled as a clipped head nailer, I’ve also fired full head nails out of it without missing a beat. The auto-off feature can get a bit annoying but I think the biggest drawback to it, which is something that affects almost all current hose-less nailers, is the weight. Using this gun daily in a production environment could get very tiring. On the plus side, you won’t need a gym to build forearm muscles.
I frame for a living, I never had any luck with cordless nailers. All toys that just didn’t last in a production setting. I wasted a lot of money for these over the years. I will occasionally use a cordless when bracing rafters. Otherwise a pneumatic is the way to go.
That's what Kyle said in the video.
DeWalt just released a new framing nailer yesterday. Seems pretty nice. Hitachi is now renamed Metabo here in US. I'm hoping Hitachi does not start carrying Metabo prices. I hate yet to see a cordless nailgun work as fast as a pneumatic. But I dont frame or roof for a living so I dont need speed.
I bought 2 new Dewalt nailes like the one you are showing and the bump mode did not work on either of these. The one also jammed constantly on #8 nails. I took both back and bought a Hitachi and have had no issues with it. I have a friend that also has a Hitachi for 5+ years and never has had a jam with it on #16 nor #8. I don't like the head/activating foot as well on the Hitachi as the prongs are shorter so it is harder to activate it in tight places where the gun needs to be tilted back for nailing.
Hi, A good addition to your talk on these battery guns, is to advise when you buy one of these battery / flywheel/ belt driven nailers, buy a few parts like the drive belt, drive pin etc ( parts that are likely to need replacing) Reason for this is when your gun stops working in 5 years time, some parts might not be available / hence throw it away. But if you had those parts , you could extend the life of the gun x 2 . Then throw it away.
I run a dewalt framer for punch work, I’ve fired 1000’s of nails through the first one before it went down. Ended up buying a 2nd definitely worth it. I use dewalt and Milwaukee tools so I have plenty of batteries. Don’t know why people don’t like them. I now run 3 for framing punch on huge apartments. I like how the hitachi seems even better just hate how I wouldn’t have extra batteries.
I also own dewalts trim nailer 18 gauge and works well too.
I still have several paslodes but only run them when I have a bigger crews with now power near by.
Try all into oak or in 1 inch exterior ply . Try nailing a timber into a block wall . All are fine on soft wood or general work . But very hard materials like 1 inch exterior ply the paslode is the best
10:34 The battery compresses the cylinder by driving the piston into the cylinder and squeezing the trigger releases the piston which then shoots out due to the high pressure
I bought the Hitachi nail gun last year or as it is now called hikoki, only because the warranty purpose which is 6 years, used it for a lot of tasks making decking, renovations, can say it is a beast eyes closed however it is very heavy compared to the paslode but that is not a bother due to not using it consistently
cordless framers are good for punchlist stuff. For any real framing you still cant beat a pneumatic coil framer. Ive been running my Bostitch n80 coil nailer daily for over 20 years. It has never let me down. I just do a yearly o ring replace as well a new trigger.
I have the Paslode framing nailer and everything you said is true about it. Then I also have the trim nailer which the battery looks the same but will only work in it's own machine, This is my second Paslode framing nailer. I noticed on trimming nailer the gas bottle should be remove or it drains away.I had a coil nail gun which ran off an air hose, that thing was so touchy might have 3 nails back to back come out
Most kiwi builders have been using the Paslode battery/gas nailers 10-15 years now... only on the really big commercial sites you may see the odd compressor and pneumatic nailer, but even then most are cordless. Only in the last few years are we now starting to switch to the battery compressed air nailers, like the DeWalt or Hitachi.
I have the Hitachi nailer and love it
I like the big rafter hook, I can hook it on 2x or the 4x when the framing interior 2x4 walls. It holds on. Who cares if the gun leans sideways?
Big Injun I can hook that giant hook on my ladder and hold a board up and then put my toe under the hook and sling it up to my hand. Lol
Great video. Love the Paslode but it does jam and get dirty a lot. LOVE my Paslode trim nailer
Hitachi for the Win I believe! I’m a Dewalt fan but man it’s loud and slower.
The mew Dewalt framing gun is better
No its not
Yes it is
@@The13point1 no it's not
Fafunwa Ayomide lol
I have the very first Paslode they came out with and its still going strong. I will admit I don't take the best care of it so its been tough. I think I have cleaned and oiled it 1 time since I bought it. It is aggerating having to make sure you have the battery charged but I bought and extra so I always have a hot one.
I owned two Paslodes. Sold both of them. Initially very handy. But required constant servicing and was forever cleaning the chamber and ports due to the gas process forming soot that clung to the internal parts. Went back to air.
great video i have both Paslod and Dewalt love both but the cost of gas and your right always runs out when you need it
I just bought a Hitachi collated screw gun on close out at Lowe’s. I was really concerned that my Hitachi tools would be useless since they got bought out. The customer service staff at Metabo assured me they are keeping all of Hitachi’s parts in stock for at least 10 years and that all the batteries will be the same on both platforms. So if you run Hitachi batteries, scoot down to Lowe’s and buy them up at close out costs.
I just bought the metabo nailer and would like to swap out the rafter hook. Where did you get the smaller rafter hook??
There is nothing more satisfying than working with cool tools
Bought a Milwaukee 16 gauge, one thing I like is no ramp up time like I with noticed with makita. I'm not sure about others ramp up time, but Milwaukee has zero. I wish the tip was more narrow,
Have the Hitachi. had to buy the bigger rafter hook as the smaller one wil NOT hang on 4x2 or similer
It comes with a giant rafter hook, he replaced it with a smaller one. I have the same gun and the same complaint - I need to order the small hook.
I would not the small one is useless on this one. Mine. Came with a small one and I had to buy the bigger one
@@lenardbosch2969 I'll take your small hook if you don't want it.
Where do you purchase the smaller hook?
Love the Metabo, but hate the power button. I mostly only use Metabo, so I am going to keep rolling with it, but many times I am not in a good position to turn the gun back on when I am trying to shoot.
Also pissed that they switched from Hitachi to Metabo so none of my older batteries work on the new tools.
Thank you for your review. I'm looking for a hoseless framing gun at present. I have a dinosaur paslode. I've been holding out for Senco to make a framer like their hoseless fusion line up. I absolutely love my fusion trim gun. It's similar to the Hitachi in that it uses a recycled nitogen filled cylinder. I'm new to your channel but you might be interested in the fusion gun.
@RR Buildings where did you get the smaller rafter hook for this?
Excellent in depth look into the hows and whys of these three major nail guns. Thank you.
I wish Milwaukee had a battery operated framing nailer. I think it will be the best of the best
Sure would be nice wouldn’t it
Milwaukee as of this week does have a framer. Check their website
Milwaukees battery powered nailers are very disapointing in my opinion. Personally I'm not blindly loyal to any particular brand. (Except Makita skill-saws lol). Anyway doesn't Bosch make a cordless nailer. I'd like to see a review on them
Man I’ve just come across your channel and I’ve been watching your videos flat out for days.
Your gun review is spot on, I run a prefab panel operation and we use pneumatic hitachi nailers in the factory and I have 2 that have done probably 6 million nails and only had to replace one hammer so far. We have some paslodes but they won’t sink a nail into lvl which we use exclusively so for site erection I end up having to set up the compressor and run lines. Tried the dewalt and took it back after an hour as it left the nails 15mm proud and it jammed ALOT.
I’ve been looking at the hitachi and think I’ll be off to get one now.
how did it do with the lvls?
That hitachi rafter hook....😂😭😂hillarious, im a 20 year renovator and a " professional" youtuber , and i just found your channel ! Awesome content and god dam that garage of yours is what dreams are made of
Professional youtuber with no subcribers?
My boss bought 3 Milwaukee framing nailers a year and a half ago and all 3 of them have been to Milwaukee atleast twice because they would grind gears or wouldn't sinks nails
Try Hikoki you wont be disappointed
Link to the Hitachi rafter Adapter pls ?
Hitachi/Hikoki nail guns are the best.....I have tried them all
I want to buy a makita cordless nailer for my carpenter for Christmas. Specifically one for trimming windows. Also what Mak 18v nailer is suggested for installed cedar siding shingles ? Thanks
Hard to beat the Passlaod if you don't mind buying the gas....I still use an air nailer for everything except framing my roofs...Nice vid...
Thinking about getting the hitachi framer. Where did I purchase the new rafterhook?
I still use pneumatic. As a barn builder withseven guys shooting 8 boxes of nails a day, battery is a pain
I still choose a gas nailer over the battery powered ones..... in terms of performance and weight they outperform anything else on the market. The money for gas is insignificant as I cost in into the job. I would consider a battery powered 16g brad nailer as weight is not an issue for finished carpentry. But for a first fix nail gun, when i'm climbing around on a roof stepping on joists and rafters i prefer the light weight of the gas nailer.
Unfortunate we still can't get any coil nailer, framing or siding, in the cordless variety beyond DeWalt's DCN45RNB one trick pony.
It would be interesting to see a follow up on this using would dense material such as pressure treated lumber.
Great comparison.
I wish you would have shot the pneumatic nailer side by side as well.
I have an old HITACHI NR83A3 framing nailer, still works great, but I don't do much framing anymore, mostly office renovations these days, so next to no framing.
The idea of a hoseless or cordless framing nailer is welcome, I doubt I'll ever be in the market, but your comparison is certainly useful, thanks!
Cheers from Tokyo
Looks like Amazon shows the Hitachi framer as discontinued by the manufacturer, yet it's still for sale. Not many to choose from other than what you have, all good n the 350 range, good video man, Jimmy is awesome btw
They rebranded into Metabo HPT in USA
Mate do you happen to have a link as to where I can find the smaller hook for the hitachi. The big one is bloody ridiculous.
There is a video on youtube of a worker who has been using the hitachi cordless framer and after 2 years it barely puts nails into wood. I'm concerned now about mine doing the same.
I do like my dewalt so versatile with other tools in the same platform, Hitachi have always had great pneumatic nailers and this gun looks to keep that trend going 👍
Where is the smaller rafter hook for the hitachi from?
where did you get that hook for the hitachi
I hate the standard one
its my only complaint about the gun
it can be bought as an accessory but I stole the one off of my hitachi trim nailer
@@RRBuildings Not listed as an accessory anywhere I look at Hitachi, but I believe it's Hitachi part# 371241.
The only thing I don't like about the hook is it can fold out wide when walking with it clipped to your tool belt. Or climbing ladders. When working it's fine . Once it folded over it's the same as a smaller hook essentially
35 year in the auto tech in the industry good tools makes a productive worker ..........looking to jump on board on My first a framing nail gun,would you recommend this ? is this version of the hitachi a clipped or round head version ? Doing a lot of research......seems like the Pasload been around and Specificly in the area of framing .....who’s better in warranties and customer service also is top criteria
Also need info on that replacement rafter hook you swapped out !!! 😎
For that nail gun there is a 36v 18v will last all day is also 4.0 power
I know this video is old, but where did you get the hook for the Hitachi, I tried Amazon but no luck
I got it off my trim nailer
@@RRBuildings thanks
Great review. Can I ask where you got the replacement rafter hook for the Hitachi? Thanks
Someone please answer this, RR Buildings, I’m in the market for it aswell
Where does one find that aftermarket rafter hook for the Hitachi nailer?
I use a cordless hilti nail gun and i love it!
Ben Graham do you use this in north america?
Jonathan De Santiago noo, I am from the uk
Ben Graham thanks , I imagine you were European, I hear good feedback on hilti, but they are not seen too much in north america
Where did you buy the shorter rafter hook at thanks
Paslode Fuel cells supposed to last around 1000 nails. But paslode is best in my opinion not as bulky and uncomfortable to carry around all day. Batteries are good that they can't be used in anything else so you know you always have a battery in your gun
I love my hitachi , I just wish it was lighter lol. I hate the rafter hook as well .
What are you using for a cordless 1/2 crown stapler? Paslode discontinued the one you use in your videos.
Would love a link for that rafter hook replacement. Been fighting that monster they put on it for too long
www.toolpartsdirect.com/hitachi-371214-hook.html
@@mikemills8765 hell yea. Thanks
Where you get the replacement rafter hook
I've used the paselode nailer in the last and I will say, the smell in an enclosed space can become a bit nauseating. It was by far the lightest though. I'm currently looking at a metabo 30 degree cordless, but at nearly 11lbs it's a put off....
i bought the Hitachi and i love it..
Hello, So what is a ballpark figure on the gas cylinders and does it need special nails? How many nails per cylinder? Do you have to go to a dealer to get the cylinders? Interesting video especially for a guy still using pneumatic. Take care. Doug
I’ve got a 15 gauge nailer from hitachi ( pneumatic ) and it is my second one. It is a pc of junk. It has given me so many problems. The depth is inconsistent. And it more often than not stays clamped onto the nail that it ragishly spits out. I took first one back and now I’ve accidentally held onto this one long enough to have lost the receipt on.
1. Oil your gun before using it. 2. Use Hitachi, Senco, or Grip-Rite nails. If you do those two things and you still have the same issues, then you got two duds in a row and are therefore one of the unluckiest men alive, because the Hitachi NT65MA series is the gold standard among 15ga nailers.
With that green thing on the side it looks like the hitachi is biased towards right handed people. But maybe it’s doesn’t get in the way if your left handed?
Is there an updated version of this video? 2022?
Awesome guns. But can you tell me where did you buy the hook for the metabo hpt
Should talk about the degree of nailer & why chose it..... Would be interesting to hear that, along w/ availability of fasteners etc...
Also, maybe a new vid w/ new Milwaukee nailers coming out....update to this vid, maybe?
Thx for vid👍🏻
💥💥AWESOME video thank you. Where can I buy that smaller rafter hook for the Metabo?
I wonder when Milwaukee will come out with one.
Noconz0727 MC check Milwaukee’s website, they have framers coming out in October
Turn the rafter hook around on the dewalt it free turn unlike the others that screw in to one side
Could I get a link for the replacement hook on the Hitachi? Thanks. Great review.
Just stole it from the trim nailer
Gotcha. Now I need to purchase the trim gun. My framer is a week old and I have experience a lot of nails failing to set. It had been cold this week. Wondering if it needs a break in period to function 100%. Thanks.
Have been using hitachi nails. Grabbed some generic nails at weeks end that seem to set much better. Any input on nail type? Have not ran hot dipped yet. I’m hoping no issues with the galvies.
When you hit 100k subs you should lay out every power tool, battery and charger you have.
share with your friends?? lets hit 100K
I've shared plenty of your vids with friends, particularly a chippy mate, he was quite impressed.
@@RRBuildings i guess i am late to 100k i see its on 200k now so where is the video for all the tools did you make it yet
by the way this is the first video i watched on your channel and subbed already i am sure every other video you have as good as this one