PVP Refresh Is Coming In Season 2 But It's Not Enough.

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  • Опубликовано: 1 фев 2025

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  • @007MJordan
    @007MJordan Год назад +4

    PVE is my favorite part of PVP.

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад

      YEAH? IS IT??????????????

    • @chinchopa3732
      @chinchopa3732 Год назад

      @@LemoniGames mr bob the builder you mentioned :D

  • @jeremyduncan8357
    @jeremyduncan8357 Год назад +1

    That Intro had me going when I saw it live glad you put it in the video. *he hehe hehehehe LOL

  • @olddlg
    @olddlg Год назад +1

    I was encouraged they have given pvp some focus. There is so much more they could do and is needed though.

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад +1

      I agree...it is just difficult because it seems like their "focus" is so far off from the needs of pvp. Then there is nothing planned on the roadmap for future changes.

  • @alex1212456
    @alex1212456 Год назад +6

    I think a 10v10 mode where 2 teams take turns attack and defending a point (maybe the mid cap on the OPR map) would be a good idea

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад +4

      That could be sick! Or literally just taking the outside of War Forts and making that a 50v50 mode.

    • @rowanb4395
      @rowanb4395 Год назад

      That's a good idea and wouldn't be hard to implement. Also need some kind of war type scrimmage. We are setting the bar really low for these guys, but i would be happy with anything at this point haha

  • @rowanb4395
    @rowanb4395 Год назад +1

    You just know that the guy on the left lights up the entire room when he walks through a door
    I don't even need season 2, I just want to know why he's got resting grumpy face
    So many questions... put him in next season's story line, I need to know this guys backstory more than the lore of Aeternum 😂

    • @devinthomas8715
      @devinthomas8715 Год назад

      He's the reason the game is doing so good...... 😂

    • @rowanb4395
      @rowanb4395 Год назад

      @@devinthomas8715 Yeah man, it's a 'hard carry' lmao

  • @nate8383
    @nate8383 Год назад +3

    20v20 Raid Group OPRs. OPR has a lot of strategic potential. Like you mentioned, there is a balance of PvE buffing PvP, but too much PvE kills it. If we could actually form a team comp and designate the "correct" amount of PvEers on our team, it would actually be a fun mode. But when you queue with 19 randoms, where 10 are on bow or fs, 2 are healers, 2 are melee, and 5 are PvErs.

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад +1

      That would be great...role queuing could really help. But at the same time, we need new content.

    • @nate8383
      @nate8383 Год назад +1

      ​@@LemoniGames I just don't see role queueing as a practical mechanic. What roles would you be able to queue for? IGVGs or IGBBs, for example, aren't "mages" but aren't "DPS" all the time. Maybe in light or medium, but not heavy. SnS/GS in light is a DPS, in medium a hybrid, in heavy a tank. LS = Healer 99% of the time, but if they add in another Foc weapon that allows for a paladin build, how do you put that in a clear role? Plus, people change loadouts in OPR all the time. They'd also have to lock people into their loadouts when OPR starts, which would suck.
      The only way that NW has shown that team comps (not necessarily skill) can be balanced is in war, by allowing players to organize the army. We make them balanced because we want our team to be balanced. If we want OPRs that are actually competitive and strategic, the only way is to allow us to form our 20 man army and fight other 20 man armies.

  • @zargisan9017
    @zargisan9017 Год назад +2

    I have no idea why they just havnt made a new game mode/map for OPR. The whole community has been asking for that for over a year. Also an MMR system for 3v3s. It can’t be that hard to do these two things. They create instanced content for PvE every 3 months. They can do the same for PvP and stop making excuses and acting stupid every dev update. “We’re doing an overhaul to the influence pushing.” Who tf is asking for that???

  • @rubeh404
    @rubeh404 Год назад +2

    The equivalent of arathi basin would be nice. No PVE, just nodes to fight over and control.

    • @TheOneZoot
      @TheOneZoot Год назад

      100% I have wanted that since the start

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад

      1000000000000000000000%

  • @Artanthos
    @Artanthos Год назад +3

    I could not agree with you more Lemoni. We desperately need new maps, and new modes. The maps should be on a rotation that changes each match as well.(not something that varies every 2 weeks or whatever). Think about any FPS shooter like CoD Battlefield Valo etc. You have a rotation of maps that create variety to the experience. If they get cross server working properly, and they would do this, it would be the single greatest thing they could do for the game at this time. Add in proper rewards, and you could really have things poppin!

  • @dbdmack
    @dbdmack Год назад +1

    Slow servers are brutal waits for OPR's, but when it merges when El Dorado, Isabella will get waxed in OPR's. How they haven't changed it to solo queue is mind-boggling.

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад +1

      That's fair! It is definitely my "populated" server privilege showing lol

  • @thezikaz
    @thezikaz Год назад +1

    OPR changes are large bold capital *L*
    -no line of sight obstacles
    -no map(spawn) balance
    -foliage gives nvdia profile editor users a unfair advantage over non-cheaters so jsut remove bushes and make everthing short grass
    -buffing PVE???? who the fuck???? they are so proud of this door building mechanic that literally no one cares about

  • @mrbicboi2540
    @mrbicboi2540 Год назад

    this vid is FACTS . can u put this into their forum post or something so they can see.

  • @nate8383
    @nate8383 Год назад +2

    Lets be honest, most people queue OPR over Arenas because, in OPR, you can sit back plinking away with the bow while your team carries you. Then if you lose, you can cope that the other team had some advantage. In Arenas, 33% of your team is you and you have to contribute or you lose. You can't just sit back and let others do the heavy lifting and avoid actual combat by shooting from the hilltops.

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад +2

      That's not why I queue haha...I think people just want to pvp outside of war but opr is the only option.

    • @mrbicboi2540
      @mrbicboi2540 Год назад

      nah u wong bro, the main reason arena is sht is because of duo or if one team gets a healer who is semi decent. Ruins the whole match and is a common occurrence

  • @pixiefaerie718
    @pixiefaerie718 Год назад +1

    For OPR, I just want to get away from the same 20 murder machines that run on my server XD

    • @pixiefaerie718
      @pixiefaerie718 Год назад

      I think the climbable arena is a balance in favor of new ranged players who get obliterated on the flat ground of the standard arena.

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад +1

      LOL...I'm sorry you have to deal with that :(

    • @pixiefaerie718
      @pixiefaerie718 Год назад

      Thank you so much for the support. I've become the guy who's mining all game to cope xD

  • @edellenburg78
    @edellenburg78 Год назад +1

    I believe that the pvp changes should prompt a reconsideration of how companies assemble their rosters for wars. Rather than relying on popularity alone, points earned during scrimmages to earn the deck should determine the composition of the roster. This adjustment would encourage a greater emphasis on strategy and shed light on the true requirements for effectively securing and defending territories.

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад +1

      I agree 100%...the war system is so cool on paper...but in practice it has so many flaws.

  • @alex1212456
    @alex1212456 Год назад +3

    What’s crazy is I can’t even enjoy the little pvp content that is in the game. I Q arena and just run into flamethrower bros. Or do OPR and hope I’m in the group that has the most premades lol

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад

      I hear you...and it is just sad :(

  • @W9HJBill
    @W9HJBill Год назад

    It's never enough for some people.

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад

      I meannnnn...I don't have a problem with them taking their time, but this is not the direction pvp needs.

  • @AIPALADINI
    @AIPALADINI Год назад

    I wish they release a new continent with full pvp style like Gw2 WxW or Warhammer Return of Reckoning oRvR.
    OPR are kinda sadge option as large scale pvp, I'm pretty sure lots of PvP guild could return if they see such thing, because that was what most of us expected since launch...
    This would be only reason to install again this game and give a try lol.

  • @iqbaldown
    @iqbaldown Год назад +1

    my Burnout stuck on fk in stone t-t brrrrr

  • @Tukotaga2024
    @Tukotaga2024 Год назад +1

    pvp store, currency, a way to get 3 perk items whether thats crafted 3rd perk item (pve needs it also) but it would be a tough but good route to bis

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад

      Could be neat...but hopefully the updated pvp track makes this not needed.

  • @prasinoz3
    @prasinoz3 Год назад +1

    Is it that hard to kill the guy mining ore or chopping wood? Seems like skill diff

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад

      Well...when both doors are max level and people can out repair each door there is no way to get inside to kill them lol

    • @prasinoz3
      @prasinoz3 Год назад

      @@LemoniGames ok, here’s a new idea, just hear me out on this one….
      kill them before???

  • @BRADLIKESPVP
    @BRADLIKESPVP Год назад

    I'd really like to play New World again, but the game just has no endgame content that is fun and doesn't get stale after a week of jumping back in. It honestly feels like there is just nothing to do for a PvP player and none of the changes that they're making are going to make it feel any different.

  • @muttface83
    @muttface83 Год назад +2

    I don't think the OPR map should change. I think they should introduce a new game mode. Capture the flag or something. The introduction of region queues make more game modes more realistic.

  • @edellenburg78
    @edellenburg78 Год назад +2

    I have an issue with the new 3v3 map. Since Outpost Rush (OPR) is the preferred game mode, it seems counterintuitive to prioritize the development of content for 3v3 instead of focusing on what the majority of players enjoy. This decision lacks coherence and reinforces my perception of AGS's disconnect from player preferences once again.

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад +1

      This...this is exactly what I'm saying...

    • @terfrayz1516
      @terfrayz1516 Год назад

      Personally, I am coming back to the game BECAUSE they have 3v3 and seem to be iterating on it more. I could be a unicorn but there's a lot of unrest with arena from that other game that I play, and this could be a great opportunity to bring in fresh blood to the game.

  • @michaelhough8239
    @michaelhough8239 Год назад

    I don’t know why a new world needs to control the experience. Why don’t they leave the old arena map up plus a new arena map and let us choose what we want to queue up for like other games do with scenarios. Also with the OPR rather than a whole new map, why don’t they create some structures or different landmarks around the OPR map and at random different ones of those respond just a create a little bit of difference.

  • @PattroPL103
    @PattroPL103 Год назад +1

    Oohhh i forgot about MMR and times when i try to learn and go into opr and 3v3 and dying everywhere...and i dont even want to talk about tank meta with pocket healers... and all patches bonus the defens and nerfing everything what makes dmg..

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад +1

      It is definitely tough right now...

  • @putthatcookiedown9941
    @putthatcookiedown9941 Год назад +1

    I'm sorry but it seems they can't win. Every map/ game mode is always going to have a preferred meta. The pve side of opr is a good strategy concept and also allows to have undergeared players to still help out teams.
    The biggest problem in opr is fort blocking, people not using side door and people either giving up and staying in fort or leaving opr. Don't get me wrong we definitely need a new map but being negative about maps is not the real issue not once have we mentioned that strong overpowered companies and toxic player are always going to be the reason PvP scene is going to be lacking .

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад

      You are right, it is definitely a tough one to win. Everything does have its preferred meta, but there is not really anything else other than opr so it is hard to really cut them slack when there have been zero OPR changes for almost 2 years. Again, I know I'm being sort of negative here. But you cannot tell me that where they are directing their focus/time is really going to help with this in the long run. If anything these types of changes are just going to add fuel to the fire of people who are already on the verge of quitting.
      I wouldn't say that overpowered companies and toxic players make the pvp scene lack. Quite honestly it is a huge lack in content and flaws in the system that allow the companies to have hit the point they are currently at. Don't get me wrong, toxic players are annoying...but the community isn't the problem with a poor pvp content.

    • @putthatcookiedown9941
      @putthatcookiedown9941 Год назад

      @@LemoniGames I'm totally in agreeance with the lack of game modes/ opr maps that's really a no brainer. I honestly think the lack of players that want to PvP is a problem no new player can get in wars, players that solo Q opr find it hard to play anything other than range. Before a new opr map we need a practice war mode which would be fun. MMO gamers have it hard because you can't keep everyone happy there are sometimes too many aspects to the game to balance.
      Love your content bro thanks for the chat

  • @Label07
    @Label07 Год назад +1

    There need to be more fundamental changes. To stamina regen especially. Watched a guys spear/sns build and it's stupid how fast he can regen stamina. Stamina determines death, run out and you're in trouble. These light gear players are able to kite and escape nearly everything. It's not fun in the slightest.

  • @harrynazarian3184
    @harrynazarian3184 Год назад +1

    Hey Ben, come to D4. It's actually a fun game versus playing a meme game

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад

      What if I told you I just started...

    • @harrynazarian3184
      @harrynazarian3184 Год назад

      @@LemoniGames Well son of a b... I'll DM you my Blizz ID. Just put that meme game down; no one cares for it, not even AGS. Is Dan playing as well or not his thing?

  • @z543
    @z543 Год назад +3

    Thank you for always vouching for new PvP content, etc. and trying to steer them into a much efficient direction. It pains me so much that AGS seems like airheads.. 😢

  • @RegionYT
    @RegionYT Год назад

    I personally play 3v3 just for the fact that you don’t waste any consumables in that mode and I’m broke lol

  • @z543
    @z543 Год назад

    It frustrates me that they think that colored skills, new map, cross opr are pvp content… my word. Someone restart their way of thinking PLEASE 😢

  • @laterbiatch3004
    @laterbiatch3004 Год назад

    pvp in new world should be like lineage 2 with a flag/karma system that makes you drop your items if you die without cleaning the karma you have after PK a player instead of PVP him that would make the open world pvp great

  • @PattroPL103
    @PattroPL103 Год назад +1

    Idk why they try to put and force pvp zones to be pve either.. same thing like no good reward for open pvp and thats why on my server im the only one who use pvp flag... they should do something with that meyby more rewards for this or maps where pvp tag is forced but there is some kind of more money income idk... but game making me booring cuz of this non pvp systems and we all see it when ppls leave this game because of it... i dont talk about pve cuz there is nothing to do... only chest runs and weird korean rng systems that force to do some activities 😢

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад +1

      It is really unfortunate...all we can do is hope the expansion makes the right changes...

  • @Grimloki
    @Grimloki Год назад +1

    The worst 'dev update' i've seen so far. They absolutely do nothing to pvp, they just treat it like the life staff.

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад

      LOL...it is a tough one. We haven't really had any pvp content added other than arenas.

    • @Grimloki
      @Grimloki Год назад

      Yeah but in my oppinion, changing something (pretty rndm) isn't necessarily better than nothing. But maybe that's just me, wanting pvp to go in an other direction to become pvp. I mean i like what they try with open world push v2.0 but that just changes one aspect of pvp content.

  • @Bortak93
    @Bortak93 Год назад

    Arena should be a RANKED PVP mode. It has no sense playing arenas at the moment. Make OPR the mode for everyone and make arenas the "skilled" mode with REWARDS (real, not trash).

    • @terfrayz1516
      @terfrayz1516 Год назад

      This makes a lot of sense. I'm just returning but isn't 3v3 the newer mode? Perhaps they'll add ranked later?

  • @RossOnTop2
    @RossOnTop2 Год назад

    The main draw of New World is wars and as long as there is no casual mode or anything resembling the ability to consistently practice or "try out" for companies. The game will forever be in a dying state. Ive been on both sides of the fence where ive been in every war every night for all yellow companies and also been the washed guy whos trying to get a spot back. This game as a pvp oriented player is 0 fun when you are not able to war. OPR is so unorganized its not anywhere near a consistent experience.

  • @Pebebopn
    @Pebebopn Год назад +1

    NA west already has cross world

  • @louiszhu2551
    @louiszhu2551 Год назад +3

    Time to hop on D4

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад

      MAYBE

    • @Macphotographs
      @Macphotographs Год назад

      D4 has been pretty boring for me so far. I just can't seem to get into it. And I really liked d2/3

  • @digitoss5637
    @digitoss5637 Год назад +1

    Improving PvP by making PvE more important... right gotcha. Depressing :(. They should just remove all the harvestables. Why not get a coin style reward for player kills. Kill people, get a currency reward that lets you buy stuff from the shops. You know like any other PvP game mode in other games. (And get more rewards if they have more kills than deaths) And also add the ability to use cleanse pots aswell.

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад

      It just sucks.... I feel like there is just a major disconnect

    • @prasinoz3
      @prasinoz3 Год назад

      Or they could just make another gamemode entirely instead of trying to modify OPR to be something its not.

  • @ryanhood5984
    @ryanhood5984 Год назад

    I feel the pve aspect defeats the pvp point. If they still want it then why not make where resources drop as bags from killed players while in opr. Higher the players rank more resources drop.

  • @MaksimSF
    @MaksimSF Год назад +1

    finally uninstalled and feels so good to move on....

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад

      I'm glad you're feeling good :) We'll see what happens!

  • @depracated
    @depracated Год назад +1

    They've had so many chances to get this game rolling and each time they've failed and under delivered on almost everything... The game is dead, for an MMO the game barely tops out at 15k players and that's just peak, usually it lowers down to below 9k.

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад +1

      You are not wrong....it is a tough one right now. BUT...the last time this happened we hit 100k average with fresh start and brim haha

    • @depracated
      @depracated Год назад

      @@LemoniGames Doubt it'll happen again.. Everyone came back last time to give it a second chance, and just left more disappointed again. I think a lot of people also see that Amazon money and really wonder why development isn't 10x quicker like last years entire roadmap should have all been in the first update.

  • @Eds.collection
    @Eds.collection Год назад +1

    Just stop wasting time for this devs. They have no idea about pvp. I already quit and i can recommend this for u.

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад

      Listen, I love the wars...but it is definitely disheartening.

  • @sebazamora8804
    @sebazamora8804 Год назад +1

    im johnny

  • @jamesmeadows1470
    @jamesmeadows1470 Год назад +1

    prolly too late imo... shoulda been installed a year ago... this point, hackers and 5-10 man stacking from the best companies on servers have killed PVP... moved to maramma b/c OPR's were good and... now its just CoS 2.0 every game (ok like 2/3) ends like 95-1000... Thats not even fun when your winning... OPR is what most people experience when it comes to PVP and with lower player involvement the aimbots start to "stand out" (its not just bows/muskets) but rapiers/GS etc and for most casuals it zaps the fun.... or they feel they have to use a bow to be effective at all b/c of how unbalanced it is... love the game got 4k hours in but.... its bleeding and now they cant even apply balance b/c of low player base...

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад

      Yeahhh...I feel this. It is just hitting the point of no return it seems...

  • @vasquezv244
    @vasquezv244 Год назад +1

    They should have had cross world opr way ealier.

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад

      There are a lot of things that should have been here earlier haha

  • @S-R-G
    @S-R-G Год назад +1

    People still play this game? I was enamored with it during release. Arena's killed it for me. That and getting rid of dungeon keys and group finder. Smh.

    • @S-R-G
      @S-R-G Год назад

      The outpost rush changes were cool though. Felt good to actually gain points by doing the "outpost" part of it.

    • @z543
      @z543 Год назад

      sadly yes we do. the reason why Im still playin it bc the combat is so engagin and addictin. everytime I play other game's combat, it just feels inferior. we jus have incompetent Devs that provides inefficient content. but it is gettin better overall PvE and PvP and QoL stuff. its just happenin too damn slow

    • @depracated
      @depracated Год назад

      @@S-R-G Game is pretty much dead.. Had so much promise, but for an MMO it can't even hit 10k players regularly now. Think most are over it.

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад

      They are making solid progress...I just don't think they will do the things needed fast enough...

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад

      Agreed

  • @WasabiCannon
    @WasabiCannon Год назад

    Clump fights are fun? They are one of the worst parts of pvp.

  • @DadSonGaming-mq9kt
    @DadSonGaming-mq9kt Год назад +1

    Dude give it up play and stream a different game. You'll need to leave town for new patch :) you'll actually have to play the game and not just cook. PVP is at a good place right now maybe not for top tier players but bob the builder is getting a chance to pvp against you. Look out you will have a challenge on your hands real soon no more PUG mobbing OPR.

    • @LemoniGames
      @LemoniGames  Год назад

      I KNOW I KNOW...it is tough. I love the pvp in the game. It is tough to find anything else like it.