Personally I feel like Yusuf was being inconsistent in his standard by saying Paul’s knowledge was unreliable Bc he received revelation, apply that same standard to Muhammed he received a revelation that Christ didn’t die on the cross is that also considered unreliable or called into question In Islam
Well paul wasnt a prophet or predicted messenger of God who was supposed to come so why is anyone accepting what he says? Why didnt jesus tell his diciples in the 4 gospels about the coming of this man who was going to take the gospel to the gentiles? It all starts to fall apart when you pick away at it
@Elliot, your comment implies that Mohammed’s coming was prophesied in scripture. That’s a fanciful idea. It falls apart very quickly when we pick at it. If we consistently apply the standard you’ve used for Paul to Mohammed, then Mohammed has absolutely no authority and no one should listen to him.
@@elliot7205 it doesn’t tho haha Read Acts. Honestly, though you can’t listen to this debate, and say that Yusuf did well. He didn’t focus on the issue at hand and repeatedly cherry picked and ignored what Dr. Licona had to say.
Great presentation Dr Licona. Your arguments were very organized. I was actually surprised by the topic of this debate as most of the NT scholars are in agreement of Jesus's death by Crucifixion.
What about believing in him as a righteous man who was a prophet, a servant of God, a word from God bestowed to the Virgin Mary, a spirit from God and as the Messiah. I think that is the best position and we should not go beyond that. Let’s worship the One True God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob without associating partners to Him, and believe in his prophet, messengers and scriptures
There are those who believe Jesus is god, Buddah is god, a cow is god, the gost is god, the sun is god, .... And then on the opposit side there are Muslims who believe in The Creator, "He is God, [who is] One. God, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent." Allah, the supreme and all-comprehensive god.
SAHIH BUKHARI 4. 54,537' THE PROPHET SAID: IF A HOUSE FLY FALLS IN THE DRINK OF ANYONE OF YOU, HE SHOULD DIP IT IN THE DRINK, FOR ONE OF ITS WINGS HAS A DISEASE AND OTHER HAS` THE CURE FOR ``T`HE DISEASE, MY FRIEND YOU TELL ME THAT THRASH IS TRUE.
SAHIH MUSLIM 97. MUHAMMAD Said: when anyone awakes from sleep, he must clean his nose three times, for the devil spends the night in the interior of his nose, yet again my dear friend, this is all thrash from a desert man of 600 century who had no ideas what to say. musnad ahmad 16245; mua' wiya said: I saw the prophet sucking on the tongue of the al-hassan ibn ali. in a sense Muhammad was a pedophilia.
If anyone lacks knowledge , ask Allah help you to read Bible with a humble attitude . When you keep Roza fasting ask your God to reveal the truth. Many Muslims were revealed by supernatural power of God. He answered them their questions
@@napoleonlaguerre5734 ROFL. These things you mentioned are old and properly explained. Go research a bit about it. BTW. According to gospels, jesus revived dead and walked on the water. So what does it mean? They are trash too?
I'm Muslim I live by my faith & what Quran tells me about Jesus (p.b.u.h) the great messenger of GOD (ALLAH); that is it. I don't think such dialogues are going to change anything. May GOD guide us all & give us the ability to recognize the truth and a courage to accept it after recognizing it..
I've watched a few debates with Yusuf now and I honestly feel like he's a giant troll in his debates. Like he asked William Lane Craig for a model of the incarnation, and when Craig gave him one, he's like "Well that doesn't explain the Trinity." Or when Craig gave his testimony, Yusuf said, "Interestingly enough I heard a Hindu gave a similar story." He really likes the cheap shots.
You will pay for your sins and I will pay for mine - Best quote to end the discussion putting aside the emotional excuse that God dies for our sins. Come on. God is God. Supreme and most powerful. God is not bound to babysit you. God is just. Licona's whole argument was based on the good things for believing crucifixion. But even if it gives your theology or give you hope, it doesn't prove crucifixion to be true. Why do you bring emotional arguments? Emotions are faulty and weak. It has nothing to do with facts. There are good reasons for an addict to abuse drugs because for him it makes him happy. That doesn't mean abusing drugs is true and good for everyone. Licona should put aside emotionally biased argument and think objectively.
God is a God of his word. The wages of sin is death. You dont accept the payment made then you will pay your self with the death of your soul. Muhammad thought the black stone sucked out sin which is insanity and paganism at its highest level.
If you watched the debate you're either an idiot who didn't understand any of it, or you're an evil liar who is hoping to dissuade people from watching it by misrepresenting it. Dr. Licona presented seven philosophical arguments in his opening statements that are falsifiable. Ishmael didn't address six of them, the seventh he was incorrect about, and the rest of his time was spent off topic.
Travis Lee Islam as paganism?? *_Isaac, the sacrifice foretelling the future_* (God replacing Abraham’s only son with a ram, to protect Isaac FROM dying) “With this, God *emphatically* showed Abraham that He was not like the pagan gods worshipped by the Canaanites and others, gods that demanded human sacrifice and were pleased by it. God strongly and clearly demonstrated that *He did not want human sacrifice* .” (Commentary: enduringword.com/bible-commentary/genesis-22/ ) 5.A. Malachi 3:6 ““For I am the Lord, I do not change”
Traditionally, history tells us that the best way to settle these debates is through bloody warfare. And since neither side admitted defeat or changed their view in this debate, believers everywhere on both sides are collecting arms and preparing for battle as we speak. May God Bless us all.
Yusuf wants you to believe allah replaced Jesus on the cross and deceived every one for 600 years and used muhammad to tell us later it wasnt Jesus. You have to excuse your brain to believe in islam.
No Mualim believes Jesus was replaced with someone else. That was what SOME of the earlier scholars SUGGESTED from their understanding of the Quranic narrative. The Holy Quran is very clear, saying: "They killed him not, nor did they crucify him (had him killed on a cross), but IT WAS MADE TO APPEAR SO TO THEM." Deception? How about God deceiving the Jews who had never heard of a trinity for thousands of years? Why did he firmly order them over and over again to worship "One God" and stress that "No one is beside Him"?????
And why did NO OTHER PROPHET ever claim that there was three persons or whatever representing God? Why only Christians? And where was this idea during the first THREE HUNDRED YEARS after Jesus was raised to God?
@@ahmedtravco dont be slow. You have no idea what traditional jews believed. The idea of the two powers in heaven is old and nothing new. Yes of course the people crucifying Jesus were tricked by a hollywood stunt double. (Sarcasm) get real
Aisha I see no slowness except in your mind tbh. Funny how you say Jews have always believed in two powers. Why didn’t they accept your nonsensical trinity then eh? And if they had believed in such rubbish (and they didn’t/don’t), how does this relate to a THIRD power (i.e. the holy spirit)? Unless some Hollywood stunt was created that came up with that 3rd party! I might not know much about Jewish creed, but I know enough to tell you any Jew would laugh at what you’re saying, and I am 3000% sure you have no idea what Islam teaches regarding alleged crucifixion or otherwise.
If Paul had revelation from Jesus pbuh how he relied on scrptures to form a belief that he really has been crucified.Didnt Jesus tell him that he was crucified??? This tells you that had not a revelation.
If Jesus did not die on the cross then the Swoon Theory tells us that He wouldn't convince anyone He was the risen Messiah all scourged down to the bone, holes in his hands and feet, spear mark.
Yusuf is confused. He keeps mentioning God would not vindicate a person cursed. He doesn't understand that the curse is the curse of sin taken upon Himself for the sins of the world. This thought is present in virtually every chapter of the NT.
Parture Jesus didn’t die for anyone’s sin. His death will not erase anyone’s sin . He was put to death by elite Jews who saw Jesus as the threat to their elite establishment so they falsely accused him of blasphemy and tried to kill him to get rid of him. Jesus prayed to God to save him and God saved his humble servant Jesus. From humiliating death by raising him to himself. He will be sent back to tell fools that he is merely a prophet of God
Paul admitted to his lies in romans 3 v7 also 1 john c 2 v 4 says he who claims to know his lord yet doesnt keep his commandments is a liar and truth is not with him so wake up none can rescue u or pay to God a ransom for u psalms 49 v 7.
Ziad Khan 🤦♂️🤦♂️ dude you need to learn how to read in context😂😂😂 how about intead of reading one verse you actually read the chapter too see what Paul is actually talking about!
Parture you are a fool. God doesn’t need to die to die for you. He can simply forgive you or any other. He is sovereign in his power and don’t fear for the consequences of his actions as no one above him
@@napoleonlaguerre5734 That false prophet also slept with old women when he was young and that false prophet also slept with widow women at the same time. The age of the little girl that you are referring is controversy among the Muslim community as well. When Non-muslim and disbelievers are talking about the age of a little girl, they only took from Muslim sources to prove she was a little girl but the question is where the other sources? Surprisingly, after the false prophet died the little girl never claimed any such thing that goes against the false prophet character while she can do such things because her father was in power! But she didn't instead she was spreading the message of the false prophet to established his message !!! I am very surprised to see the magic of the false prophet !!!!
Parture lol John didn’t write John. It was written by anonymous in different stages attributing to John. Yosef mentioned according to bible, at the critical moment of Jesus all the disciples fled and none of them were eyewitness. Muslim believe Jesus was not killed or crucified but God made it appear so to those who wanted to kill him and God raised him alive and will send him before end time to rule justly and clarify his position and die as normal human being and end of story.
John is simply a name attributed to the book. Ask any scholar, historian or any church fathers about John's identity. There's no single document about his character except some from gospels that too from inference. No one knows about John, Mathew, Luke except as so called disciples.
Parture Muslim quoted bible verse where it said all of the disciples of Jesus forsaken Jesus at his critical moment of crucifixion and fled . John lied that he was eyewitness of crucifixion because he wanted to make Jesus his lamb of sacrifice for his sin. If all disciples abandoned Jesus and fled did they saw Jesus dying and dead from live telecasts from their hiding?
I believe in The Messiah, Yeheshua Son of Mary, not the mythical Greek Jesus, son of Zeus. Why is the Christian god powerless to forgive father Adam's sin so much so the Christian god has got to sacrifice his begotten son.....?? Doesn't make the least sense at all.....!!
Why Jesus Is Not The Jewish Messiah Christian missionaries, like Jews for Jesus, profess that Jesus is the Jewish messiah. Why has Judaism rejected this claim for 2,000 years? The concept of the Messiah has its foundation in our Jewish Bible, the Tanach, which teaches that all of the following criteria must be fulfilled before any person can be acknowledged as the Messiah: The Messiah must be from the Tribe of Judah and a Descendant of King David AND King Solomon The Messiah must be a member of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10) and a direct descendant of King David & King Solomon (2 Samuel 7:12-14; 1 Chronicles 22:9-10). Genealogy in the Bible is only passed down from father to son (Numbers 1:1-18). There is no evidence that Jesus really had this pedigree, and the Christian Bible actually claims that he did not have a “birth-father” from the tribe of Judah descending from King David and King Solomon (Matt. 1:18-20). Ingathering of the Jewish Exiles When the Messiah is reigning as King of Israel, the Jews will be ingathered from their exile and will return to Israel, their homeland (Deut. 30:3; Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 30:3, 32:37; Ezekiel 11:17, 36:24). This has clearly not yet happened and we still await its fulfillment. Rebuilding of the Holy Temple The Temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt (Isaiah 2:2-3, 56:6-7, 60:7, 66:20; Ezekiel 37:26-27; Malachi 3:4; Zech. 14:20-21). The Temple was still standing in Jesus’ day. It was destroyed 38 years after Jesus’ crucifixion and it has not yet been rebuilt. Worldwide Reign of Peace There will be universal disarmament and worldwide peace with a complete end to war (Micah 4:1-4; Hoseah 2:20; Isaiah 2:1-4, 60:18). Wars have increased dramatically in the world since the start of Christianity. Observance of the Torah Embraced by All Jews The Messiah will reign as King at a time when all the Jewish people will observe G-d’s commandments (Ezekiel 37:24; Deut. 30:8,10; Jeremiah 31:32; Ezekiel 11:19-20, 36:26-27).
Parture every one has to pay for their own sin through repentance to God, owner of heavens and earth and everything in between. It is mental sickness to believe Jesus born 2000 years ago died for sin for all mankind. Mankind in millions of years old and Jesus only about 2000 years old.
@@gavinhurlimann2910 Mr. Hurlimann, I hope the following translations clear any misunderstanding you may have. Quran surah Fatir 15 in arabic text يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ أَنْتُمُ الْفُقَرَاءُ إِلَى اللَّهِ ۖ وَاللَّهُ هُوَ الْغَنِيُّ الْحَمِيدُ Quran surah Fatir 15 in english translation Sahih International (35:15) O mankind, you are those in need of Allah, while Allah is the Free of need, the Praiseworthy. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali and Muhammad Muhsin Khan, (35:15) O mankind! it is you who stand in need of Allah, but Allah is Rich (Free of all wants and needs), Worthy of all praise. Mohammed Marmaduke William Pickthall (35:15) O mankind! Ye are the poor in your relation to Allah. And Allah! He is the Absolute, the Owner of Praise. Abdullah Yusuf Ali (35:15) O ye men! It is ye that have need of Allah: but Allah is the One Free of all wants, worthy of all praise. Mohammad Habib Shakir (35:15) O men! you are they who stand in need of Allah, and Allah is He Who is the Self-sufficient, the Praised One. Dr. Ghali (35:15) O you mankind, you are the poor (in relation) to Allah; and Allah is The One Who is The Ever-Affluent, The Ever-Praiseworthy. Ali Unal (35:15) O humankind! You are all poor before God and in absolute need of Him, whereas He is the All-Wealthy and Self-Sufficient (absolutely independent of the creation), the All-Praiseworthy (as your Lord, Who provides for you and all other beings, supplying all your needs). Amatul Rahman Omar (35:15) Mankind! it is you who are dependent upon Allâh (for your physical and spiritual needs), but Allâh, He is Self-Sufficient (- independent of all needs), the Praiseworthy (in His Own right). Literal (35:15) You, you the people, you are the poor/needy/deprived to God, and He is the rich, the praiseworthy/commendable. Ahmed Ali (35:15) O men, it is you who stand in need of God. As for God, He is above all need, worthy of praise. A. J. Arberry (35:15) O men, you are the ones that have need of God; He is the All-sufficient, the All-laudable. Abdul Majid Daryabadi (35:15) O mankind! ye are needers Unto Allah, and Allah! He is the Selfsufficient, the Praiseworthy Maulana Mohammad Ali (35:15) If you call on them, they hear not your call Muhammad Sarwar (35:15) People, you are always in need of God and God is Self-sufficient and Praiseworthy. Hamid Abdul Aziz (35:15) If you call on them they shall not hear your call, and even if they could hear they shall not answer you; and on the Day of Resurrection they will deny your associating them (with Allah); and none can inform you like the One Who is Aware. Faridul Haque (35:15) O people! You are dependant on Allah Talal Itani (35:15) O people! It is you who are the poor, in need of God; while God is the Rich, the Praiseworthy. Ahmed Raza Khan (35:15) O people! You are dependant on Allah; and Allah only is the Independent (Absolute, Not Needing Anything), the Most Praiseworthy. Wahiduddin Khan (35:15) O men! It is you who stand in need of God - God is self-sufficient, and praiseworthy - Safi-ur-Rahman al-Mubarakpuri (35:15) O mankind! it is you who stand in need of Allah. But Allah is the Rich, Worthy of all praise. Ali Quli Qarai (35:15) O mankind! You are the ones who stand in need of Allah, and Allah-He is the All-sufficient, the All-laudable. Hasan al-Fatih Qaribullah and Ahmad Darwish (35:15) People, it is you who are in need of Allah. He is the Rich, the Praised.
I think Yusuf is confused. He suggests mistaken identity. I think the Apostles who spent 3 years with Jesus would know who he was a couple days later after He died on the cross.
Parture Yusuf is not confused. He presented evidence from bible which is confusing and contradicting itself. Christian rejects solid part of bible that deny crucifixion and death and divinity of Jesus but hold on weak part of bible that made him crucified Jesus and him somewhat God .
Jesus died 33 AD, Friday, Nisan 14, April 1 Gregorian, April 3 Julian. That day was a lunar eclipse. That day was a lunar eclipse (April 3 Julian). What is it with Gary Habermas using 30 AD and now Licona is going for 35 AD. They are both wrong. If they can't be more careful and get their dates right, how can we have confidence in defending more accurate stuff related to apologetics. The 4 day inspection of the lamb was Nisan 10 Monday, 11 Tues, 12 Wed, 13 Thurs. Jesus was captured Thurs Nisan 14. He died on Friday. There is also the 173,880 days from the declaration to rebuild Jerusalem in Neh. 2 to that very Monday Nisan 10, 33 AD. Nisan 14 Friday is the only day that fits.
Parture who did the autopsy of alleged dead Jesus ? If he was dead why he not buried in the grave under 5 feet of soil like other dead people? He was not buried under Five feet of soil instead he was placed in a big roomy tomb above the ground with free movement of air and a door where a stone was placed. Because Josef aramethia who was lover of Jesus knew Jesus was not dead but fainted from torture so he took Jesus into his home and placed in a roomy airy tomb instead of burying him so Jesus can be revived life. Jesus revived and escape the tomb and guised as gardener to escape confirm death by Jews.
@@azad1718 that's either a really clever troll, or the stupidest coherent statement ever written, and I can't tell which. If you're being sarcastic I commend you for excellence, but in the event you actually believe that ridiculous insanity, I must correct you. The centurion who pierced Jesus's side with a spear made an autopsy entirely unnecessary. When you pierce a heart and blood and water (pericardial fluid) run out, the person is dead. In most of the US, graves have a minimum of six feet of dirt. You think it's five, so obviously nobody has ever died in your country. This argument is patently stupid. Jesus was buried in accordance with standard Jewish burial practice for the time. Calling Joseph *of* Arimathea a lover of Jesus sounds like some homo-erotic fantasy of yours. Joseph of Arimathea was a member of the Sanhedrin which voted unanimously to sentence Jesus to death for blasphemy. Joseph wanted to take Jesus down from the cross so the land would not be cursed by his being out overnight. Jesus fainted from torture? Yes, I'm sure that being flogged with a leather whip studded with bits of bone and metal, forced to drag a cross across Jerusalem, being nailed to it and left to hang for hours probably did cause him to faint. Eventually he stopped breathing, and died, then he was stabbed in the heart before he was taken down. The fainting doesn't seem to matter much after he died, then got stabbed in the heart post-mortem for good measure. Why exactly do you think that Joseph of Arimathea had his home connected to his family tomb? Is it common in your culture to bury your dead in your living room? Also, where do you get the impression that Joseph had a gardener? Have you found where his receipts were stored? It wouldn't be a very good disguise if he didn't have one, after all. Do you not realize that Joseph of Arimathea was a Jew? If you want an unsympathetic Jewish autopsy, how much further do you need to look than one of the men who voted to condemn Jesus and took him down to ensure he was buried? I hope that you were being sarcastic, because you presented the ultimate joke of a hypothetical scenario. If I'm weren't being sarcastic, I would recommend you question everything you've ever been told by whatever idiotic liar told you this story.
yusuf argument is : ok what if the disciples mistake Jesus and have doubts the quran: the disciples were Muslims sorry yusuf your argument is not hold water and if you take the fact that allah promised to protect them ooo man your argument is on fire you now need water
@@travislee1012 i didnt say paul created christianity, it seems your not just an idiot but a liar too. Foolish worshipper of man, god is 3 but 1 at the same time? Lol okay. If u say so
@På Luffen written where? In your pagan interpretation of your corrupted bible? Talk about satanic influence. Open your eyes follower of Paul, god is 1, and 1 alone.
@@lakerstekkenn true you also read in the book Isaiah 41 & 42 the mention of a messenger giving glad tidings to Jerusalem about the servant of Isaiah 42 who will bring a law (Torah) for the gentiles of Arabia and put idolaters to shame who is none other than Muhammad
@@IbnAlHimyari Muhammad is not a prophet from God because he didn't know shooting stars weren't Angels guarding the heavens throwing these shooting stars at devils but shooting stars are not stars but dust rocks burning up in our atmosphere someone who didn't know basic science about shooting stars claiming to be the creator isn't a revelation from God, let alone the final prophet sent with the perfect revelation. .Also the contradiction found a legitimate contradiction Qur'an contradiction 55.39 nobody will be questioned on judgment day but another verse says Allah is swearing that they will be questioned verse 5.93.. Fayawmaithin la yusalu AAan thanbihi insun wala jannun Quran 55:39 root سال (sin-alif-lam) not be questioned lā not yus'alu will be asked
Fawarabbika lanasalannahum ajmaAAeena Quran 5.93 root سال (sin-alif-lam) will be questioned lanasalannahum surely We will question them Quran 55:39 Thus on that day no man will be questioned about his sin, nor any jinn. vs Quran 15.93 By your Lord We shall question them one and all About their deeds. Fawarabbika lanasalannahum ajmaAAeena Jami` at-Tirmidhi Dar-us-Salam reference Volume 5, Book 44, Hadith 3126 In-book reference Book 47, Hadith 3418 Reference Hadith 3126 Related Qur'an verses 15.92 Narrated Anas bin Malik: that regarding Allah's saying: We shall certainly call all of them to account. For all that they used to do (15:92 & 93). The Prophet (ﷺ) said: "About saying La Ilaha Illallah." حَدَّثَنَا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ عَبْدَةَ الضَّبِّيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا مُعْتَمِرُ بْنُ سُلَيْمَانَ، عَنْ لَيْثِ بْنِ أَبِي سُلَيْمٍ، عَنْ بِشْرٍ، عَنْ أَنَسِ بْنِ مَالِكٍ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فِي قَوْلِهِ : (ولَنَسْأَلَنَّهُمْ أَجْمَعِينَ * عَمَّا كَانُوا يَعْمَلُونَ ) قَالَ " عَنْ قَوْلِ لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ " . قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ غَرِيبٌ إِنَّمَا نَعْرِفُهُ مِنْ حَدِيثِ لَيْثِ بْنِ أَبِي سُلَيْمٍ . وَقَدْ رَوَى عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ إِدْرِيسَ عَنْ لَيْثِ بْنِ أَبِي سُلَيْمٍ عَنْ بِشْرٍ عَنْ أَنَسِ بْنِ مَالِكٍ نَحْوَهُ وَلَمْ يَرْفَعْهُ . call someone to account (for something) 1 to say that someone is responsible for something that has gone wrong and expect them to explain it, deal with it, or be punished for it
Above Muhammad confirms they will be questioned those who chopped the Qur'an up into pieces; there's different interpretations about what this means, so these people will be questioned on Judgment day about their sins deeds their evil but Muhammad forgot he said nobodies being questioned because their foreheads will be marked they are branded as sinners that will be thrown into the hellfire, so there's no need to question anybody they are placed ; marked they can't see Allah, but the other verse Muhammad swears that they will be questioned about this subject; the other Qur'an verse says they will be questioned about their lies Idolatry sins Quran 29.13 And they will surely bear their own burdens and some other burdens along with their own; and they will undoubtedly be questioned on the Day of Resurrection concerning what they had fabricated. The two root words are the same referring to being questioned; not rebuked but questioned waiting for an answer because that's why they are questioned, Jesus is questioned about their sins of worshiping him, so the questions are being asked; Jesus is the evidence if he taught; told them to worship him; his mother as Gods with God, so everyone is being questioned including Jesus he's the prosecutions witness against the Trinity Christians remember Muhammad was a Unitarian Ebonite Christian learning from Gnostic Gospels; Jewish legends Oral traditions stories from false prophets who had visions or thought they were getting information from God, Yahweh warns about these false prophets these Jews would see the world; relate these events to a certain prophecy if true or false and give their interpretations about biblical stories adding fantasy to them like Solomon's magic carpet. Muhammad simply forgot that he said they will be questioned about their sins then said they won't be questioned then again said they will be questioned, he simply goofed then the interpretations try to save the contradiction by claiming they won't be questioned but rebuked scolded but the Arabic being used is the same root referring to being questioned; not about being لوم scolded (n. ac. لَوْم لَوْمَةمَلَام [] مَلَامَة [] ) a. [acc. & 'Ala or Fī], Blamed, rebuked, reprehended, reproached censured, scolded for; improbated, reprobated; expostulated with. لَوَّمَa. see I لَاْوَمَa. Reproached. أَلْوَمَa. see Ib. Deserved blame; did wrong. It's a contradiction The Qur'an says if this wasn't from Allah you would find contradictions, well there's a contradiction Muhammad; his companions missed this one; there's probably more. So the Qur'an failed the test; don't get me started with shooting stars as a defense system; decorations nighttime lights lamps that Muhammad was seeing at night; the Arabs these actual planets Suns Stars Muhammad thought Allah placed these lights in the night sky so Angels could throw them at Jinn trying to escape the lowest heaven to gather secret information from Angels traveling from the Angelic council giving other Angels that are in this lowest heaven secret information like revelation the Qur'an when Muhammad would recite the Qur'an anyway. So these Jinn could've just listened to the Qur'an on earth the pagan Arabs accused Muhammad of getting his information revelation from Jinn stealing information secrets; to counter this charge Muhammad thought the nighttime lights in the sky was Allah's way to guard the heavens from Jinns, this is totally wrong; Arabs myths from the Babylonian's, this is so bad; illogical. This is evidence because this can't be true it's illogical; goes against Science, shooting stars are leftover small debris from Comets; leftover tiny rocks being burned when entering our atmosphere these are no a defense system to stop these Jinn from leaving this Globe, do you know how many Angels it would take to stop these Jinn from leaving a Globe ?, why isn't there shooting stars seen everywhere ? just go outside; you won't see any. Just watch the video; see what Muhammad had observed with the Arabs; look at the lowest heaven, the Milky way just watch the lights lamps; watch the missiles being thrown at the Jinn according to the Muhammad, Muhammad thought these streaks of lamps were God guarding the lowest heaven; in the the sky these lights were placed in the lowest heaven so Angels could throw them at the Jinn. The Quran shooting stars ri.urd.ac.ir/article_46557_60aa8bce08ad026d0be6ad7ee5afb54c.pdf Watch the video Perseid Meteor Shower - Perseiden 2019 ruclips.net/video/-__IX144HDg/видео.html Watch the video A Colorado Town Goes Dark To Let The Milky Way Shine Bright | ruclips.net/video/mcuhBr7AW4c/видео.html
@@IbnAlHimyari Isaiah 42 isn't about Muhammad but the servant is Israel the Jews offerings of salvation to the Gentile nations; Muhammad took this Jewish Christian revelation from Jewish legends; Gnostic Christian writings; brought his people monotheism claiming to be a prophet but he was a false prophet.
@@IbnAlHimyariThe Jews brought the Torah to the Arabs that verse in Isaiah 42 is speaking about the Babylonian exile; the Jews being brought out of Idolatry then teaching the Gentile nations the Torah some Arabs left paganism; worshiped Yahweh while others didn't but Muhammad just brought Christianity mixed with Judaism without the worshiping of Jesus as God but Muhammad was taught Jewish legends; Christian Gnostic apocryphal writings; thought he was a prophet, there's no way Muhammad could've been a true prophet given revelation if the Qur'an doesn't know the truth Science about shooting stars there's absolutely no way God would teach shooting stars are decorations lights lamps in the nighttime sky; Angels grab these lamps to throw at Jinn, this is from Arabs myths that Muhammad used to verify his false revelation, this can't be from Almighty God. Isaiah 42 is about the Jews being saved from Idolatry; then bringing salvation to the world even to some Arabs who were pagans but this wasn't a prophecy about a Arabian prophet but a prophecy that Gods servants Israel would teach the Gentile nations the Torah Laws but beware of false prophets.
Lambas Siregar God love repentant sinners not arrogant proud sinner . God can forgive anyone without having to answer to anyone without any human sacrifice or animal sacrifice.
Parture God is one not two or three or Four . God can never die, he is the giver of life and death. Jesus didn’t say he was part of God rather messenger of God. Greek drunkard idolator invented this nonsense theory of trinity matching to their own beliefs
@@azad1718 the church forefathers taught this in the church which totally contradicts the bible.. so Christian's like to take verses from the new testament and old testament and twist them to make out that isa is God.. astagfirrullah
Repent from your sins people, and be born again, believing is not enough, we need to repent, if not, we will be tormented day and night, for ever, there is a way tho, Jesus loves us, that is why he sacrificed himself, for our sins, repent, and let us accept the Lord Jesus.
To be Born again is to repent because when tou repent you be like new born baby without sin. That is exakly what Quran teches you to do. Repent does not mean that Jesus died for you. Ok. Remember that. You do a sin than repent and go back to you father do his works.
stepan kevin Jesus didn’t sacrifice for no fool. His sacrifice means nothing to God. God may or may not forgive someone . Jesus can’t dictate God and own no power. His duty was not to save people rather warn people and conveying messages
stepan kevin repent to God that is creator of you and Jesus and anything past present and future seen or unseen. Repenting to creature Jesus and taking him as savior is blasphemy which biggest sin. Son of Mary Jesus will reject any association and will take no responsibility for those who falsely made him as God and savior after his departure thus making him ashamed in front of Almighty God .
I've watched him in a couple of debates. He always sounds frustrated. He also consistently takes cheap shots at his opponents which is also a good sign of his frustration.
@@azad1718 ehm... I'm not a Catholic, neither do I condone their doctrine so I'm not sure what your point is.. and neither is Licona. Maybe you should learn to argue based on logic and facts instead of saying dumb shit.
@@babayaga9570 Catholics are the majority of christians and historically established the christian doctrins as it is know to the world and as commonly practiced. Catholics represent chrostianity in the world. Your sectarian disagreements do not relief you from the claims that are made about christian beliefs including the catholic doctrins.
At 59:10 the muslim said there is a place in Africa where people are nailed in their hands to a cross and through their thigh to the wood to support them. This is not the same as crucifixion of Jesus since Jesus had no support. He suffocated to death and his heart was pierced so it could not pump blood anymore.
IS GOD THE CREATOR OF LIFE AND DEATH? IF YOUR ANSWER IS YES, THEN USE YOUR BRAINS WHICH HE GAVE YOU TO REASON WITH. IF YOU CREATED DEATH, THEN HOW CAN YOU BE DYING?
Ismail’s and the Islamic argument is so silly and flawed. The Jews and Romans knew it was Jesus that they crucified and killed, the disciples new it was Him that was on the cross. Secondly, at what point did they supposedly let Jesus and have someone take his place? The Roman’s never would’ve permitted that because a Roman soldier wood have to take the place if the condemned he escaped. Third, the reason that the centurion drove a spear into Jesus’ heart was to make sure he was dead and there was no way anyone could survive the cross. And what about the shroud of Turin, there’s no way someone from the thirteenth century could have produced a cloth wit such an intricate picture of Jesus that is both a reverse negative photo and a hologram.
@@sgnitzlennahv No. Jesus as fully human has all the characteristics of being human, but as God Phil. 2.7 says He "emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in human likeness." So you can say He limited His abilities to be in the likeness of men to show us how to live as humans.
@@Partureok, but you said that the one who said the final word is his human side not the god side. So how can human jesus and god jesus be one if they think separately. Are trying to say the god side forsaken the human side and left the human side to die and thus the final word.
@@sgnitzlennahvIt's not two different Jesus'. That is a heresy. God can limit Himself if He so chooses. As the Bible says Jesus is FULLY GOD and FULLY HUMAN. He condescends Himself to us so we can appreciate Him. If Jesus is not fully human then His atonement on the cross would not be fully achieved.
@@sgnitzlennahv There are all sorts of heresies. Your heresy about Jesus. Pick the one you think you agree with. coldcasechristianity.com/writings/historic-heresies-related-to-the-nature-of-jesus/
Jamal K are you true bastard? Over 75 % of Christian child in western countries and Africa born as bustard ( born of adultery) . Do you feel ashamed to show real name? Day of judgement won’t happen until Jesus returns and preach monotheism and die like all other human. That is why an empty grave is reserved for Jesus by the side of prophet Muhammed.
Luis Ceballos yes if your source of proof is the very book that's under investigation then your argument is weak. Sorry if I offended yu that is not my intention I apologize bt facts is facts and it seems that most Christians go off of blind faith and refuse to acknowledge the contradictions in the bible. Is God 1 or 3? Did the disciples recognize Jesus or not? Did he die for our sins or is each man accountable for his own? Can yu see God or can't you? And so on and so on. So yu see that most people have to go outside the book and to a personal belief to answer these questions so that just shows the weakness of the book itself
Tyrell Frazier of course, your source of information is liberals to non believers scholars , the same thing would happen if I use liberal views about Islam
AND IF YOU ARE DEAD THEN HOW CAN YOU BRING YOURSELF BACK TO LIFE? THEN YOU MUST BE CHEATING YOURSELF IN DYING! LOL! FUNNY BELIEF YOU GUYS HAVE IN THINKING THE HOLY PROPHET JESUS TO BE OUR CREATOR
mike is not lying we have historical facts and when we show proof muslims claim ours books were corrupted or illuminati re wrote history. when the quran itself states that the torah and gospel wre preserved by god. the quran and hadith never say the gospel was corrupted. search yourself
revelation 2018 yu obviously didn't read it yourself both bible and Qur'an bc the Qur'an does say that and if yu do your own studies we will see the obvious corruption in the bible
revelation 2018 we have to agree that if I show 1 then the whole book is suspect. So with that being said 1john 5:7&8 have been proven by Christian scholars not Muslim scholars to been a forgery that was added also the famous john3:16 has been proven to be mistranslated the Greek word monogenesis (might have misspelled it) doesn't mean Begotten and there are many more. But I'm not trying to slam the bible it has truth in it but just not the whole truth and nothing but the truth. And plz don't feel disrespected I mean no harm
hi bro no all good, well one would have to ask what would be the reason for the forgery if it was inserted? there are many other passages of the bible that refer to Jesus being the son of god could you please send me a link to the scholars research? there is no dought translation issues but the fact the bible has slightly different accounts of events just means it was not revised by man to sound perfect answering John 3:16 there are few more passages that say the same thing; Phl 2:6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, Phl 2:7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. Mat 8:28When he had come to the other side, to the region of the Gadarenes, two demon-possessed men met him as they came out of the tombs. They were so violent that no one could pass that way. [Mat 8:29 Suddenly they shouted, "What do you have to do with us, Son of God? Have you come here to torment us before the time? " [Luk 4:41 CSB] Also, demons were coming out of many, shouting and saying, "You are the Son of God! " But he rebuked them and would not allow them to speak, because they knew he was the Christ. Mathew 11:27 Jesus said everything has been entrusted to me by the father no one knows the father like the son and no one knows the son like the father Mathew 17:1 Jesus was talking to Moses and Elijah on a mountain then a voice came from heaven God said this is my beloved son with whom I am pleased John 14:6 they said show us the father he said the father is in me and I am in the father the father who dwells in me speaks through me John 3:13 Jesus said he has been to heaven because he has come from there John 5:19 the son does what he sees the father do and the son is to be honoured like the father
Galana Ali... Jesus Christ pbuh worship one God....He teach Oneness of God..He even say was sent by God on earth.... Jesus Christ Him self have said....He is not crucified.. Gospel of luke ch 24v39-40... Jesus Christ pbuh says...be hold my hand and feet...its me Jesus...for a spirit doesn't have flash and Bones.... this is clearly that He is not dead.... even when was asked to give a sign if is a man of God...he said...no any sign i will show....you many of iniquity... Adult generation you keep on asking questions ...you don't follow the commandment of my Father and the teaching....the sign that i will show is the sign of Jhoner....as Jhoner Bubléd by the big fish three days three night alive shall the sun of man live on the heart of the earth as Jhoner
Which part was non sense ? I found some non sense logic from Christianity that god needs to pray to him and he didn't know what's coming. And you still believe jesus was the god and god get killed.
napoleon laguerre Quran doesn’t impress ignorants , brainless sheep who believe what idolator and drunkard Greek told about son of Mary Jesus who was neither Greek nor spoke Greek. Distance between Greek and Bethlehem is over 1500 kilometers. Use your brain.
Maybe if you was born long ago before jesus that you will said that the prophet is not real because make difficult live for you so you will choice to follow the rich king ,the false god..? Is it not they where commanded for war and also they got such rules that not too different like in final testament...?
قُلْ هُوَ اللَّهُ أَحَدٌ are you sure about that? I a point in what? You don't even know Christian theology in a clear way, you can see that on every debate
Siddiq Mohammed man viewing your reply I concluded that your understanding of Christian theology is really messed up, I bet that you've never read the bible, maybe because you're not allow to, you just repeat what other Muslim "apologists" say over and over again.
Personally I feel like Yusuf was being inconsistent in his standard by saying Paul’s knowledge was unreliable Bc he received revelation, apply that same standard to Muhammed he received a revelation that Christ didn’t die on the cross is that also considered unreliable or called into question In Islam
Well paul wasnt a prophet or predicted messenger of God who was supposed to come so why is anyone accepting what he says? Why didnt jesus tell his diciples in the 4 gospels about the coming of this man who was going to take the gospel to the gentiles? It all starts to fall apart when you pick away at it
@Elliot, your comment implies that Mohammed’s coming was prophesied in scripture. That’s a fanciful idea. It falls apart very quickly when we pick at it. If we consistently apply the standard you’ve used for Paul to Mohammed, then Mohammed has absolutely no authority and no one should listen to him.
@@elliot7205 it doesn’t tho haha
Read Acts. Honestly, though you can’t listen to this debate, and say that Yusuf did well. He didn’t focus on the issue at hand and repeatedly cherry picked and ignored what Dr. Licona had to say.
Great presentation Dr Licona. Your arguments were very organized. I was actually surprised by the topic of this debate as most of the NT scholars are in agreement of Jesus's death by Crucifixion.
But they will deny that Jesus was resurrected from the dead.
@@phenomenal17playz Coz they cannot believe in a supernatural force in the timeline
“You either believe that Jesus was the Son of God or a mad man or worse, but him being a great teacher has not been left open to us”
-C.S. Lewis
What about believing in him as a righteous man who was a prophet, a servant of God, a word from God bestowed to the Virgin Mary, a spirit from God and as the Messiah. I think that is the best position and we should not go beyond that. Let’s worship the One True God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob without associating partners to Him, and believe in his prophet, messengers and scriptures
There are those who believe Jesus is god, Buddah is god, a cow is god, the gost is god, the sun is god, ....
And then on the opposit side there are Muslims who believe in The Creator, "He is God, [who is] One.
God, the Eternal Refuge.
He neither begets nor is born,
Nor is there to Him any equivalent."
Allah, the supreme and all-comprehensive god.
Great Presentation Dr Mike Licona!
Alhamdulilah for Islam
Islam is the only religion that is still alive and remain alive till the end of time
SAHIH BUKHARI 4. 54,537' THE PROPHET SAID: IF A HOUSE FLY FALLS IN THE DRINK OF ANYONE OF YOU, HE SHOULD DIP IT IN THE DRINK, FOR ONE OF ITS WINGS HAS A DISEASE AND OTHER HAS` THE CURE FOR ``T`HE DISEASE, MY FRIEND YOU TELL ME THAT THRASH IS TRUE.
SAHIH MUSLIM 97. MUHAMMAD Said: when anyone awakes from sleep, he must clean his nose three times, for the devil spends the night in the interior of his nose, yet again my dear friend, this is all thrash from a desert man of 600 century who had no ideas what to say. musnad ahmad 16245; mua' wiya said: I saw the prophet sucking on the tongue of the al-hassan ibn ali. in a sense Muhammad was a pedophilia.
If anyone lacks knowledge , ask Allah help you to read Bible with a humble attitude . When you keep Roza fasting ask your God to reveal the truth.
Many Muslims were revealed by supernatural power of God. He answered them their questions
Islam is just political and muslims will die in their sin and suffer eternal misery with mohammed
@@napoleonlaguerre5734 ROFL. These things you mentioned are old and properly explained. Go research a bit about it. BTW. According to gospels, jesus revived dead and walked on the water. So what does it mean? They are trash too?
Yusuf always goes off topic to avoid being exposed
I'm Muslim I live by my faith & what Quran tells me about Jesus (p.b.u.h) the great messenger of GOD (ALLAH); that is it. I don't think such dialogues are going to change anything.
May GOD guide us all & give us the ability to recognize the truth and a courage to accept it after recognizing it..
rizwitz that is a good attitude. I think the Creator would be pleased with a Muslim OR a Christian who tried to live with such honesty.
Every thing in the Quran came from muhammad. It has. Nothing to do with God
“You either believe that Jesus was the Son of God or a mad man or worse, but him being a great teacher has not been left open to us”
-C.S. Lewis
@@travislee1012 It came from God. Muhammad (Peace be upon him) only repeated the word of God from Angel Gabriel
@@IbnAlHimyari that is just a claim from muhammad sir. Joseph Smith made the same claim.
I've watched a few debates with Yusuf now and I honestly feel like he's a giant troll in his debates. Like he asked William Lane Craig for a model of the incarnation, and when Craig gave him one, he's like "Well that doesn't explain the Trinity." Or when Craig gave his testimony, Yusuf said, "Interestingly enough I heard a Hindu gave a similar story." He really likes the cheap shots.
You will pay for your sins and I will pay for mine - Best quote to end the discussion putting aside the emotional excuse that God dies for our sins. Come on. God is God. Supreme and most powerful. God is not bound to babysit you. God is just. Licona's whole argument was based on the good things for believing crucifixion. But even if it gives your theology or give you hope, it doesn't prove crucifixion to be true. Why do you bring emotional arguments? Emotions are faulty and weak. It has nothing to do with facts. There are good reasons for an addict to abuse drugs because for him it makes him happy. That doesn't mean abusing drugs is true and good for everyone. Licona should put aside emotionally biased argument and think objectively.
God is a God of his word. The wages of sin is death. You dont accept the payment made then you will pay your self with the death of your soul. Muhammad thought the black stone sucked out sin which is insanity and paganism at its highest level.
If you watched the debate you're either an idiot who didn't understand any of it, or you're an evil liar who is hoping to dissuade people from watching it by misrepresenting it. Dr. Licona presented seven philosophical arguments in his opening statements that are falsifiable. Ishmael didn't address six of them, the seventh he was incorrect about, and the rest of his time was spent off topic.
Travis Lee
Islam as paganism??
*_Isaac, the sacrifice foretelling the future_* (God replacing Abraham’s only son with a ram, to protect Isaac FROM dying)
“With this, God *emphatically* showed Abraham that He was not like the pagan gods worshipped by the Canaanites and others, gods that demanded human sacrifice and were pleased by it. God strongly and clearly demonstrated that *He did not want human sacrifice* .” (Commentary: enduringword.com/bible-commentary/genesis-22/ )
5.A. Malachi 3:6 ““For I am the Lord, I do not change”
This is a great debate
Traditionally, history tells us that the best way to settle these debates is through bloody warfare. And since neither side admitted defeat or changed their view in this debate, believers everywhere on both sides are collecting arms and preparing for battle as we speak. May God Bless us all.
If you are to pay for your sins then the only option is Hell.
Mikes rebuttal was 🔥🔥🔥
Yusuf wants you to believe allah replaced Jesus on the cross and deceived every one for 600 years and used muhammad to tell us later it wasnt Jesus. You have to excuse your brain to believe in islam.
No Mualim believes Jesus was replaced with someone else. That was what SOME of the earlier scholars SUGGESTED from their understanding of the Quranic narrative. The Holy Quran is very clear, saying: "They killed him not, nor did they crucify him (had him killed on a cross), but IT WAS MADE TO APPEAR SO TO THEM."
Deception? How about God deceiving the Jews who had never heard of a trinity for thousands of years? Why did he firmly order them over and over again to worship "One God" and stress that "No one is beside Him"?????
And why did NO OTHER PROPHET ever claim that there was three persons or whatever representing God? Why only Christians? And where was this idea during the first THREE HUNDRED YEARS after Jesus was raised to God?
@@ahmedtravco dont be slow. You have no idea what traditional jews believed. The idea of the two powers in heaven is old and nothing new. Yes of course the people crucifying Jesus were tricked by a hollywood stunt double. (Sarcasm) get real
Aisha
I see no slowness except in your mind tbh. Funny how you say Jews have always believed in two powers. Why didn’t they accept your nonsensical trinity then eh? And if they had believed in such rubbish (and they didn’t/don’t), how does this relate to a THIRD power (i.e. the holy spirit)? Unless some Hollywood stunt was created that came up with that 3rd party! I might not know much about Jewish creed, but I know enough to tell you any Jew would laugh at what you’re saying, and I am 3000% sure you have no idea what Islam teaches regarding alleged crucifixion or otherwise.
@Tarek Zihad its funny story from the fake gospel of barnabas is in the quran lol
If Paul had revelation from Jesus pbuh how he relied on scrptures to form a belief that he really has been crucified.Didnt Jesus tell him that he was crucified??? This tells you that had not a revelation.
Yusuf tried to change the subject so many times.
If Jesus did not die on the cross then the Swoon Theory tells us that He wouldn't convince anyone He was the risen Messiah all scourged down to the bone, holes in his hands and feet, spear mark.
I love that debate especially the 6 argument that my brother in faith Mike present to us.
Yusuf is confused. He keeps mentioning God would not vindicate a person cursed. He doesn't understand that the curse is the curse of sin taken upon Himself for the sins of the world. This thought is present in virtually every chapter of the NT.
I killed my own son after accepting Christianity.
Parture Jesus didn’t die for anyone’s sin. His death will not erase anyone’s sin . He was put to death by elite Jews who saw Jesus as the threat to their elite establishment so they falsely accused him of blasphemy and tried to kill him to get rid of him. Jesus prayed to God to save him and God saved his humble servant Jesus. From humiliating death by raising him to himself. He will be sent back to tell fools that he is merely a prophet of God
Paul admitted to his lies in romans 3 v7 also 1 john c 2 v 4 says he who claims to know his lord yet doesnt keep his commandments is a liar and truth is not with him so wake up none can rescue u or pay to God a ransom for u psalms 49 v 7.
Ziad Khan 🤦♂️🤦♂️ dude you need to learn how to read in context😂😂😂 how about intead of reading one verse you actually read the chapter too see what Paul is actually talking about!
AMEN MY BROTHER MICHEAL.
Yusuf crucified mike
Dawood Patel lmao
Dawood Patel: "Yusuf crucified Mike" - bullshit. Islam is more corrupt than North Korea.
I am a muslim i think Mike won this debate
@@gavinhurlimann2910 - my friend please do not mock or insult people this will not gain respect from muslims
@@gavinhurlimann2910 I killed my own son after reading the bible
Typical, Yousuf running away from the topic of the debate and misquoting scriptures.
At 2:09 is salvation by works claiming man can turn from his sins. Not true. No man has ever stopped sinning, therefore you need atonement by God.
Parture you are a fool. God doesn’t need to die to die for you. He can simply forgive you or any other. He is sovereign in his power and don’t fear for the consequences of his actions as no one above him
@@azad1718 agree 💯%
Yousuf ismail great
YOUSELF IS LYING MY FRIEND AND YOU AND HE FOLLOW A FALSE PROPHET WHO SLEPT WITH LITLE CHILDREN.
@@napoleonlaguerre5734: That is true.
@@napoleonlaguerre5734 I killed my own son after watching this debate and thus proved Christianity wrong.
@@napoleonlaguerre5734 That false prophet also slept with old women when he was young and that false prophet also slept with widow women at the same time. The age of the little girl that you are referring is controversy among the Muslim community as well. When Non-muslim and disbelievers are talking about the age of a little girl, they only took from Muslim sources to prove she was a little girl but the question is where the other sources? Surprisingly, after the false prophet died the little girl never claimed any such thing that goes against the false prophet character while she can do such things because her father was in power! But she didn't instead she was spreading the message of the false prophet to established his message !!! I am very surprised to see the magic of the false prophet !!!!
Yusuf frustated
Muslims make sense in every angle of this debate..
The muslim said at 58:10 that none of the Apostles were at the cross. But John wrote in John that he was at the cross when Jesus died.
Parture lol John didn’t write John. It was written by anonymous in different stages attributing to John. Yosef mentioned according to bible, at the critical moment of Jesus all the disciples fled and none of them were eyewitness. Muslim believe Jesus was not killed or crucified but God made it appear so to those who wanted to kill him and God raised him alive and will send him before end time to rule justly and clarify his position and die as normal human being and end of story.
Who is John, John Travolta?
John is simply a name attributed to the book. Ask any scholar, historian or any church fathers about John's identity. There's no single document about his character except some from gospels that too from inference. No one knows about John, Mathew, Luke except as so called disciples.
Parture Muslim quoted bible verse where it said all of the disciples of Jesus forsaken Jesus at his critical moment of crucifixion and fled . John lied that he was eyewitness of crucifixion because he wanted to make Jesus his lamb of sacrifice for his sin. If all disciples abandoned Jesus and fled did they saw Jesus dying and dead from live telecasts from their hiding?
I believe in The Messiah, Yeheshua Son of Mary, not the mythical Greek Jesus, son of Zeus.
Why is the Christian god powerless to forgive father Adam's sin so much so the Christian god has got to sacrifice his begotten son.....??
Doesn't make the least sense at all.....!!
coz he is just at the same time merciful
Why Jesus Is Not The Jewish Messiah
Christian missionaries, like Jews for Jesus, profess that Jesus is the Jewish messiah.
Why has Judaism rejected this claim for 2,000 years?
The concept of the Messiah has its foundation in our Jewish Bible, the Tanach, which teaches that all of the following criteria must be fulfilled before any person can be acknowledged as the Messiah:
The Messiah must be from the Tribe of Judah and a Descendant of King David AND King Solomon
The Messiah must be a member of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10) and a direct descendant of King David & King Solomon (2 Samuel 7:12-14; 1 Chronicles 22:9-10). Genealogy in the Bible is only passed down from father to son (Numbers 1:1-18).
There is no evidence that Jesus really had this pedigree, and the Christian Bible actually claims that he did not have a “birth-father” from the tribe of Judah descending from King David and King Solomon (Matt. 1:18-20).
Ingathering of the Jewish Exiles
When the Messiah is reigning as King of Israel, the Jews will be ingathered from their exile and will return to Israel, their homeland (Deut. 30:3; Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 30:3, 32:37; Ezekiel 11:17, 36:24).
This has clearly not yet happened and we still await its fulfillment.
Rebuilding of the Holy Temple
The Temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt (Isaiah 2:2-3, 56:6-7, 60:7, 66:20; Ezekiel 37:26-27; Malachi 3:4; Zech. 14:20-21).
The Temple was still standing in Jesus’ day. It was destroyed 38 years after Jesus’ crucifixion and it has not yet been rebuilt.
Worldwide Reign of Peace
There will be universal disarmament and worldwide peace with a complete end to war (Micah 4:1-4; Hoseah 2:20; Isaiah 2:1-4, 60:18).
Wars have increased dramatically in the world since the start of Christianity.
Observance of the Torah Embraced by All Jews
The Messiah will reign as King at a time when all the Jewish people will observe G-d’s commandments (Ezekiel 37:24; Deut. 30:8,10; Jeremiah 31:32; Ezekiel 11:19-20, 36:26-27).
The point of Jesus being the curse on the cross is paying for sins, not that Jesus was a sinner.
Parture every one has to pay for their own sin through repentance to God, owner of heavens and earth and everything in between. It is mental sickness to believe Jesus born 2000 years ago died for sin for all mankind. Mankind in millions of years old and Jesus only about 2000 years old.
Parture Jesus didn’t die! It’s impossible for God to cease to exist! Christianity is beyond absurd
Yusuf is very clear and convincing.
TK 2016: Bullshit.
@@Aminahisbag: That mine & everyone's eyes will be opened so we embrace Islam?
@@gavinhurlimann2910 Mr. Hurlimann, I hope the following translations clear any misunderstanding you may have.
Quran surah Fatir 15 in arabic text
يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ أَنْتُمُ الْفُقَرَاءُ إِلَى اللَّهِ ۖ وَاللَّهُ هُوَ الْغَنِيُّ الْحَمِيدُ
Quran surah Fatir 15 in english translation
Sahih International
(35:15) O mankind, you are those in need of Allah, while Allah is the Free of need, the Praiseworthy.
Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali and Muhammad Muhsin Khan,
(35:15) O mankind! it is you who stand in need of Allah, but Allah is Rich (Free of all wants and needs), Worthy of all praise.
Mohammed Marmaduke William Pickthall
(35:15) O mankind! Ye are the poor in your relation to Allah. And Allah! He is the Absolute, the Owner of Praise.
Abdullah Yusuf Ali
(35:15) O ye men! It is ye that have need of Allah: but Allah is the One Free of all wants, worthy of all praise.
Mohammad Habib Shakir
(35:15) O men! you are they who stand in need of Allah, and Allah is He Who is the Self-sufficient, the Praised One.
Dr. Ghali
(35:15) O you mankind, you are the poor (in relation) to Allah; and Allah is The One Who is The Ever-Affluent, The Ever-Praiseworthy.
Ali Unal
(35:15) O humankind! You are all poor before God and in absolute need of Him, whereas He is the All-Wealthy and Self-Sufficient (absolutely independent of the creation), the All-Praiseworthy (as your Lord, Who provides for you and all other beings, supplying all your needs).
Amatul Rahman Omar
(35:15) Mankind! it is you who are dependent upon Allâh (for your physical and spiritual needs), but Allâh, He is Self-Sufficient (- independent of all needs), the Praiseworthy (in His Own right).
Literal
(35:15) You, you the people, you are the poor/needy/deprived to God, and He is the rich, the praiseworthy/commendable.
Ahmed Ali
(35:15) O men, it is you who stand in need of God. As for God, He is above all need, worthy of praise.
A. J. Arberry
(35:15) O men, you are the ones that have need of God; He is the All-sufficient, the All-laudable.
Abdul Majid Daryabadi
(35:15) O mankind! ye are needers Unto Allah, and Allah! He is the Selfsufficient, the Praiseworthy
Maulana Mohammad Ali
(35:15) If you call on them, they hear not your call
Muhammad Sarwar
(35:15) People, you are always in need of God and God is Self-sufficient and Praiseworthy.
Hamid Abdul Aziz
(35:15) If you call on them they shall not hear your call, and even if they could hear they shall not answer you; and on the Day of Resurrection they will deny your associating them (with Allah); and none can inform you like the One Who is Aware.
Faridul Haque
(35:15) O people! You are dependant on Allah
Talal Itani
(35:15) O people! It is you who are the poor, in need of God; while God is the Rich, the Praiseworthy.
Ahmed Raza Khan
(35:15) O people! You are dependant on Allah; and Allah only is the Independent (Absolute, Not Needing Anything), the Most Praiseworthy.
Wahiduddin Khan
(35:15) O men! It is you who stand in need of God - God is self-sufficient, and praiseworthy -
Safi-ur-Rahman al-Mubarakpuri
(35:15) O mankind! it is you who stand in need of Allah. But Allah is the Rich, Worthy of all praise.
Ali Quli Qarai
(35:15) O mankind! You are the ones who stand in need of Allah, and Allah-He is the All-sufficient, the All-laudable.
Hasan al-Fatih Qaribullah and Ahmad Darwish
(35:15) People, it is you who are in need of Allah. He is the Rich, the Praised.
I think Yusuf is confused. He suggests mistaken identity. I think the Apostles who spent 3 years with Jesus would know who he was a couple days later after He died on the cross.
Parture Yusuf is not confused. He presented evidence from bible which is confusing and contradicting itself. Christian rejects solid part of bible that deny crucifixion and death and divinity of Jesus but hold on weak part of bible that made him crucified Jesus and him somewhat God .
@@azad1718: Bullshit. Yusuf is seriously confused & not helped by English not being his native language. Islam is more corrupt than North Korea.
Yusuf is...a piece of work. He's very inconsistent.
the truth is with islam
Jesus died 33 AD, Friday, Nisan 14, April 1 Gregorian, April 3 Julian. That day was a lunar eclipse. That day was a lunar eclipse (April 3 Julian). What is it with Gary Habermas using 30 AD and now Licona is going for 35 AD. They are both wrong. If they can't be more careful and get their dates right, how can we have confidence in defending more accurate stuff related to apologetics. The 4 day inspection of the lamb was Nisan 10 Monday, 11 Tues, 12 Wed, 13 Thurs. Jesus was captured Thurs Nisan 14. He died on Friday. There is also the 173,880 days from the declaration to rebuild Jerusalem in Neh. 2 to that very Monday Nisan 10, 33 AD. Nisan 14 Friday is the only day that fits.
Parture who did the autopsy of alleged dead Jesus ? If he was dead why he not buried in the grave under 5 feet of soil like other dead people? He was not buried under Five feet of soil instead he was placed in a big roomy tomb above the ground with free movement of air and a door where a stone was placed. Because Josef aramethia who was lover of Jesus knew Jesus was not dead but fainted from torture so he took Jesus into his home and placed in a roomy airy tomb instead of burying him so Jesus can be revived life. Jesus revived and escape the tomb and guised as gardener to escape confirm death by Jews.
@@azad1718 that's either a really clever troll, or the stupidest coherent statement ever written, and I can't tell which. If you're being sarcastic I commend you for excellence, but in the event you actually believe that ridiculous insanity, I must correct you.
The centurion who pierced Jesus's side with a spear made an autopsy entirely unnecessary. When you pierce a heart and blood and water (pericardial fluid) run out, the person is dead.
In most of the US, graves have a minimum of six feet of dirt. You think it's five, so obviously nobody has ever died in your country. This argument is patently stupid. Jesus was buried in accordance with standard Jewish burial practice for the time.
Calling Joseph *of* Arimathea a lover of Jesus sounds like some homo-erotic fantasy of yours. Joseph of Arimathea was a member of the Sanhedrin which voted unanimously to sentence Jesus to death for blasphemy. Joseph wanted to take Jesus down from the cross so the land would not be cursed by his being out overnight.
Jesus fainted from torture? Yes, I'm sure that being flogged with a leather whip studded with bits of bone and metal, forced to drag a cross across Jerusalem, being nailed to it and left to hang for hours probably did cause him to faint. Eventually he stopped breathing, and died, then he was stabbed in the heart before he was taken down. The fainting doesn't seem to matter much after he died, then got stabbed in the heart post-mortem for good measure.
Why exactly do you think that Joseph of Arimathea had his home connected to his family tomb? Is it common in your culture to bury your dead in your living room? Also, where do you get the impression that Joseph had a gardener? Have you found where his receipts were stored? It wouldn't be a very good disguise if he didn't have one, after all.
Do you not realize that Joseph of Arimathea was a Jew? If you want an unsympathetic Jewish autopsy, how much further do you need to look than one of the men who voted to condemn Jesus and took him down to ensure he was buried?
I hope that you were being sarcastic, because you presented the ultimate joke of a hypothetical scenario. If I'm weren't being sarcastic, I would recommend you question everything you've ever been told by whatever idiotic liar told you this story.
yusuf argument is : ok what if the disciples mistake Jesus and have doubts
the quran: the disciples were Muslims
sorry yusuf your argument is not hold water and if you take the fact that allah promised to protect them ooo man your argument is on fire you now need water
Whatever your reason is, your heart must recognize Islam, because only pride makes you reject Islam
Islam is a pagan religion of rock worshippers repackaged into islam with stolen parts of other religions
@@travislee1012 christianity is the following of paul, a pagan belief that worships 3 gods. Be quiet pagan
@@Hamza000h wait so Paul created Christianity, killed Christians, then became a Christian only to be killed for being a Christian? 😆🤣 your all idiots!
@@travislee1012 i didnt say paul created christianity, it seems your not just an idiot but a liar too. Foolish worshipper of man, god is 3 but 1 at the same time? Lol okay. If u say so
@På Luffen written where? In your pagan interpretation of your corrupted bible? Talk about satanic influence. Open your eyes follower of Paul, god is 1, and 1 alone.
AMEEN MY BROTHER YUSUF 🤲
Btw, this couldn't have been 2011 because you even mentioned the world cup progress of 2014.
GO MIKE!
act 4:12. salvation is found in no else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.
napoleon laguerre another fool j
@@lakerstekkenn true you also read in the book Isaiah 41 & 42 the mention of a messenger giving glad tidings to Jerusalem about the servant of Isaiah 42 who will bring a law (Torah) for the gentiles of Arabia and put idolaters to shame who is none other than Muhammad
@@IbnAlHimyari Muhammad is not a prophet from God because he didn't know shooting stars weren't Angels guarding the heavens throwing these shooting stars at devils but shooting stars are not stars but dust rocks burning up in our atmosphere someone who didn't know basic science about shooting stars claiming to be the creator isn't a revelation from God, let alone the final prophet sent with the perfect revelation.
.Also the contradiction found a legitimate contradiction
Qur'an contradiction 55.39 nobody will be questioned on judgment day but another verse says Allah is swearing that they will be questioned verse 5.93..
Fayawmaithin la yusalu AAan thanbihi insun wala jannun Quran 55:39 root سال (sin-alif-lam) not be questioned
lā not yus'alu will be asked
Fawarabbika lanasalannahum ajmaAAeena Quran 5.93 root سال (sin-alif-lam) will be questioned
lanasalannahum surely We will question them
Quran 55:39
Thus on that day no man will be questioned about his sin, nor any jinn.
vs
Quran 15.93
By your Lord We shall question them one and all About their deeds.
Fawarabbika lanasalannahum ajmaAAeena
Jami` at-Tirmidhi
Dar-us-Salam reference
Volume 5, Book 44, Hadith 3126
In-book reference
Book 47, Hadith 3418
Reference
Hadith 3126
Related Qur'an verses
15.92
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
that regarding Allah's saying: We shall certainly call all of them to account. For all that they used to do (15:92 & 93). The Prophet (ﷺ) said: "About saying La Ilaha Illallah."
حَدَّثَنَا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ عَبْدَةَ الضَّبِّيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا مُعْتَمِرُ بْنُ سُلَيْمَانَ، عَنْ لَيْثِ بْنِ أَبِي سُلَيْمٍ، عَنْ بِشْرٍ، عَنْ أَنَسِ بْنِ مَالِكٍ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فِي قَوْلِهِ : (ولَنَسْأَلَنَّهُمْ أَجْمَعِينَ * عَمَّا كَانُوا يَعْمَلُونَ ) قَالَ
" عَنْ قَوْلِ لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ "
. قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ غَرِيبٌ إِنَّمَا نَعْرِفُهُ مِنْ حَدِيثِ لَيْثِ بْنِ أَبِي سُلَيْمٍ . وَقَدْ رَوَى عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ إِدْرِيسَ عَنْ لَيْثِ بْنِ أَبِي سُلَيْمٍ عَنْ بِشْرٍ عَنْ أَنَسِ بْنِ مَالِكٍ نَحْوَهُ وَلَمْ يَرْفَعْهُ .
call someone to account (for something)
1
to say that someone is responsible for something that has gone wrong and expect them to explain it, deal with it, or be punished for it
Above Muhammad confirms they will be questioned those who chopped the Qur'an up into pieces; there's different interpretations about what this means, so these people will be questioned on Judgment day about their sins deeds their evil but Muhammad forgot he said nobodies being questioned because their foreheads will be marked they are branded as sinners that will be thrown into the hellfire, so there's no need to question anybody they are placed ; marked they can't see Allah, but the other verse Muhammad swears that they will be questioned about this subject; the other Qur'an verse says they will be questioned about their lies Idolatry sins Quran 29.13 And they will surely bear their own burdens and some other burdens along with their own; and they will undoubtedly be questioned on the Day of Resurrection concerning what they had fabricated.
The two root words are the same referring to being questioned; not rebuked but questioned waiting for an answer because that's why they are questioned, Jesus is questioned about their sins of worshiping him, so the questions are being asked; Jesus is the evidence if he taught; told them to worship him; his mother as Gods with God, so everyone is being questioned including Jesus he's the prosecutions witness against the Trinity Christians remember Muhammad was a Unitarian Ebonite Christian learning from Gnostic Gospels; Jewish legends Oral traditions stories from false prophets who had visions or thought they were getting information from God, Yahweh warns about these false prophets these Jews would see the world; relate these events to a certain prophecy if true or false and give their interpretations about biblical stories adding fantasy to them like Solomon's magic carpet.
Muhammad simply forgot that he said they will be questioned about their sins then said they won't be questioned then again said they will be questioned, he simply goofed then the interpretations try to save the contradiction by claiming they won't be questioned but rebuked scolded but the Arabic being used is the same root referring to being questioned; not about being لوم scolded (n. ac. لَوْم لَوْمَةمَلَام [] مَلَامَة [] ) a. [acc. & 'Ala or Fī], Blamed, rebuked, reprehended, reproached censured, scolded for; improbated, reprobated; expostulated with. لَوَّمَa. see I لَاْوَمَa. Reproached. أَلْوَمَa. see Ib. Deserved blame; did wrong.
It's a contradiction The Qur'an says if this wasn't from Allah you would find contradictions, well there's a contradiction Muhammad; his companions missed this one; there's probably more.
So the Qur'an failed the test; don't get me started with shooting stars as a defense system; decorations nighttime lights lamps that Muhammad was seeing at night; the Arabs these actual planets Suns Stars Muhammad thought Allah placed these lights in the night sky so Angels could throw them at Jinn trying to escape the lowest heaven to gather secret information from Angels traveling from the Angelic council giving other Angels that are in this lowest heaven secret information like revelation the Qur'an when Muhammad would recite the Qur'an anyway.
So these Jinn could've just listened to the Qur'an on earth the pagan Arabs accused Muhammad of getting his information revelation from Jinn stealing information secrets; to counter this charge Muhammad thought the nighttime lights in the sky was Allah's way to guard the heavens from Jinns, this is totally wrong; Arabs myths from the Babylonian's, this is so bad; illogical.
This is evidence because this can't be true it's illogical; goes against Science, shooting stars are leftover small debris from Comets; leftover tiny rocks being burned when entering our atmosphere these are no a defense system to stop these Jinn from leaving this Globe, do you know how many Angels it would take to stop these Jinn from leaving a Globe ?, why isn't there shooting stars seen everywhere ? just go outside; you won't see any.
Just watch the video; see what Muhammad had observed with the Arabs; look at the lowest heaven, the Milky way just watch the lights lamps; watch the missiles being thrown at the Jinn according to the Muhammad, Muhammad thought these streaks of lamps were God guarding the lowest heaven; in the the sky these lights were placed in the lowest heaven so Angels could throw them at the Jinn.
The Quran shooting stars
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@@IbnAlHimyari Isaiah 42 isn't about Muhammad but the servant is Israel the Jews offerings of salvation to the Gentile nations; Muhammad took this Jewish Christian revelation from Jewish legends; Gnostic Christian writings; brought his people monotheism claiming to be a prophet but he was a false prophet.
@@IbnAlHimyariThe Jews brought the Torah to the Arabs that verse in Isaiah 42 is speaking about the Babylonian exile; the Jews being brought out of Idolatry then teaching the Gentile nations the Torah some Arabs left paganism; worshiped Yahweh while others didn't but Muhammad just brought Christianity mixed with Judaism without the worshiping of Jesus as God but Muhammad was taught Jewish legends; Christian Gnostic apocryphal writings; thought he was a prophet, there's no way Muhammad could've been a true prophet given revelation if the Qur'an doesn't know the truth Science about shooting stars there's absolutely no way God would teach shooting stars are decorations lights lamps in the nighttime sky; Angels grab these lamps to throw at Jinn, this is from Arabs myths that Muhammad used to verify his false revelation, this can't be from Almighty God. Isaiah 42 is about the Jews being saved from Idolatry; then bringing salvation to the world even to some Arabs who were pagans but this wasn't a prophecy about a Arabian prophet but a prophecy that Gods servants Israel would teach the Gentile nations the Torah Laws but beware of false prophets.
God loves sinner truly proved by Jesus crucifixion nothing else
Jesus is not God ruclips.net/video/-vpilPcMsUg/видео.html
Lambas Siregar God love repentant sinners not arrogant proud sinner . God can forgive anyone without having to answer to anyone without any human sacrifice or animal sacrifice.
Yusuf doesn't understand that God dying is His 2nd Person dying and resurrecting, not the 1st Person and not the 3rd Person.
You are confused 😂😂😂 1+1+1 can not be 3 but equals one👀🤦♂️🤔
Parture God is one not two or three or Four . God can never die, he is the giver of life and death. Jesus didn’t say he was part of God rather messenger of God. Greek drunkard idolator invented this nonsense theory of trinity matching to their own beliefs
@@azad1718 the church forefathers taught this in the church which totally contradicts the bible.. so Christian's like to take verses from the new testament and old testament and twist them to make out that isa is God.. astagfirrullah
Repent from your sins people, and be born again, believing is not enough, we need to repent, if not, we will be tormented day and night, for ever, there is a way tho, Jesus loves us, that is why he sacrificed himself, for our sins, repent, and let us accept the Lord Jesus.
To be Born again is to repent because when tou repent you be like new born baby without sin. That is exakly what Quran teches you to do. Repent does not mean that Jesus died for you. Ok. Remember that. You do a sin than repent and go back to you father do his works.
stepan kevin Jesus didn’t sacrifice for no fool. His sacrifice means nothing to God. God may or may not forgive someone . Jesus can’t dictate God and own no power. His duty was not to save people rather warn people and conveying messages
stepan kevin repent to God that is creator of you and Jesus and anything past present and future seen or unseen. Repenting to creature Jesus and taking him as savior is blasphemy which biggest sin. Son of Mary Jesus will reject any association and will take no responsibility for those who falsely made him as God and savior after his departure thus making him ashamed in front of Almighty God .
ruclips.net/video/-vpilPcMsUg/видео.html that's the answer
Thanks mike licona for debunked muslim claims
Muslim claims concerning Jesus crucifixtion is ridiculous lol
Lol mike was destroyed here
Yusuf has a case
Ismail looked frustrated
I've watched him in a couple of debates. He always sounds frustrated. He also consistently takes cheap shots at his opponents which is also a good sign of his frustration.
I love that dabate and Yousef is silent and lost.
napoleon laguerre sin of Mary was not crucified but mike was crucified by yousuf by his reason and proof.
and after watching this debate I killed my own son being a Christian.
yusuf's argument is nothing short of ridiculous.
Peter Domuzov ridiculous because you may eat flesh of Jesus and drink blood of Jesus like catholics !!
@@azad1718 ehm... I'm not a Catholic, neither do I condone their doctrine so I'm not sure what your point is.. and neither is Licona. Maybe you should learn to argue based on logic and facts instead of saying dumb shit.
@@babayaga9570 Catholics are the majority of christians and historically established the christian doctrins as it is know to the world and as commonly practiced. Catholics represent chrostianity in the world.
Your sectarian disagreements do not relief you from the claims that are made about christian beliefs including the catholic doctrins.
good on you mike keep up the good work
Whoever watched the debate would know yusuf whooped that boy
At 59:10 the muslim said there is a place in Africa where people are nailed in their hands to a cross and through their thigh to the wood to support them. This is not the same as crucifixion of Jesus since Jesus had no support. He suffocated to death and his heart was pierced so it could not pump blood anymore.
Parture made up lies by Greek pagan idolators historians who didn’t see Jesus at all
Mike was on fire lol
IS GOD THE CREATOR OF LIFE AND DEATH? IF YOUR ANSWER IS YES, THEN USE YOUR BRAINS WHICH HE GAVE YOU TO REASON WITH. IF YOU CREATED DEATH, THEN HOW CAN YOU BE DYING?
God became the creation to go through death
Ismail’s and the Islamic argument is so silly and flawed. The Jews and Romans knew it was Jesus that they crucified and killed, the disciples new it was Him that was on the cross. Secondly, at what point did they supposedly let Jesus and have someone take his place? The Roman’s never would’ve permitted that because a Roman soldier wood have to take the place if the condemned he escaped. Third, the reason that the centurion drove a spear into Jesus’ heart was to make sure he was dead and there was no way anyone could survive the cross. And what about the shroud of Turin, there’s no way someone from the thirteenth century could have produced a cloth wit such an intricate picture of Jesus that is both a reverse negative photo and a hologram.
When Jesus says Why have your forsaken me? That's His human side, not His God side speaking.
So jesus have split personality and his human and god side can conflict with each other. Is that what you trying to say.
@@sgnitzlennahv No. Jesus as fully human has all the characteristics of being human, but as God Phil. 2.7 says He "emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in human likeness." So you can say He limited His abilities to be in the likeness of men to show us how to live as humans.
@@Partureok, but you said that the one who said the final word is his human side not the god side. So how can human jesus and god jesus be one if they think separately. Are trying to say the god side forsaken the human side and left the human side to die and thus the final word.
@@sgnitzlennahvIt's not two different Jesus'. That is a heresy. God can limit Himself if He so chooses. As the Bible says Jesus is FULLY GOD and FULLY HUMAN. He condescends Himself to us so we can appreciate Him. If Jesus is not fully human then His atonement on the cross would not be fully achieved.
@@sgnitzlennahv There are all sorts of heresies. Your heresy about Jesus. Pick the one you think you agree with.
coldcasechristianity.com/writings/historic-heresies-related-to-the-nature-of-jesus/
I have question, why Allah was so much in love with Jesus that he didn’t want him to die but he let Mohammad die terrible death like rat?????
ruclips.net/video/-vpilPcMsUg/видео.html that's the answer to your question
Jamal K are you true bastard? Over 75 % of Christian child in western countries and Africa born as bustard ( born of adultery) . Do you feel ashamed to show real name? Day of judgement won’t happen until Jesus returns and preach monotheism and die like all other human. That is why an empty grave is reserved for Jesus by the side of prophet Muhammed.
what an insult to the rats i mean they didnt marry 6 year old children
You are the art with corrupted book who think god killed himself for you
Christians arguments be soooooo weak
Tyrell Frazier so weak? Come on
Luis Ceballos yes if your source of proof is the very book that's under investigation then your argument is weak. Sorry if I offended yu that is not my intention I apologize bt facts is facts and it seems that most Christians go off of blind faith and refuse to acknowledge the contradictions in the bible. Is God 1 or 3? Did the disciples recognize Jesus or not? Did he die for our sins or is each man accountable for his own? Can yu see God or can't you? And so on and so on. So yu see that most people have to go outside the book and to a personal belief to answer these questions so that just shows the weakness of the book itself
Tyrell Frazier based on your answer I concluded that you're an Islam follower ? Right?
Luis Ceballos yes
Tyrell Frazier of course, your source of information is liberals to non believers scholars , the same thing would happen if I use liberal views about Islam
AND IF YOU ARE DEAD THEN HOW CAN YOU BRING YOURSELF BACK TO LIFE? THEN YOU MUST BE CHEATING YOURSELF IN DYING! LOL! FUNNY BELIEF YOU GUYS HAVE IN THINKING THE HOLY PROPHET JESUS TO BE OUR CREATOR
Read your bible Mike is lying he make money deceiving you people
mike is not lying we have historical facts and when we show proof muslims claim ours books were corrupted or illuminati re wrote history. when the quran itself states that the torah and gospel wre preserved by god. the quran and hadith never say the gospel was corrupted. search yourself
revelation 2018 yu obviously didn't read it yourself both bible and Qur'an bc the Qur'an does say that and if yu do your own studies we will see the obvious corruption in the bible
Tyrell Frazier Hi bro why don't you tell where the corruption is? Then I can make my decision
revelation 2018 we have to agree that if I show 1 then the whole book is suspect. So with that being said 1john 5:7&8 have been proven by Christian scholars not Muslim scholars to been a forgery that was added also the famous john3:16 has been proven to be mistranslated the Greek word monogenesis (might have misspelled it) doesn't mean Begotten and there are many more. But I'm not trying to slam the bible it has truth in it but just not the whole truth and nothing but the truth. And plz don't feel disrespected I mean no harm
hi bro no all good, well one would have to ask what would be the reason for the forgery if it was inserted? there are many other passages of the bible that refer to Jesus being the son of god could you please send me a link to the scholars research? there is no dought translation issues but the fact the bible has slightly different accounts of events just means it was not revised by man to sound perfect
answering John 3:16 there are few more passages that say the same thing;
Phl 2:6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,
Phl 2:7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men.
Mat 8:28When he had come to the other side, to the region of the Gadarenes, two demon-possessed men met him as they came out of the tombs. They were so violent that no one could pass that way.
[Mat 8:29 Suddenly they shouted, "What do you have to do with us, Son of God? Have you come here to torment us before the time? "
[Luk 4:41 CSB] Also, demons were coming out of many, shouting and saying, "You are the Son of God! " But he rebuked them and would not allow them to speak, because they knew he was the Christ.
Mathew 11:27
Jesus said everything has been entrusted to me by the father no one knows the father like the son and no one knows the son like the father
Mathew 17:1
Jesus was talking to Moses and Elijah on a mountain then a voice came from heaven God said this is my beloved son with whom I am pleased
John 14:6
they said show us the father he said the father is in me and I am in the father the father who dwells in me speaks through me
John 3:13
Jesus said he has been to heaven because he has come from there
John 5:19
the son does what he sees the father do and the son is to be honoured like the father
MUHAMMAD'S KORAN NEVER IMPRESS ME FOR IT IS FULL OF NON SENSE.
Galana Ali... Jesus Christ pbuh worship one God....He teach Oneness of God..He even say was sent by God on earth.... Jesus Christ Him self have said....He is not crucified.. Gospel of luke ch 24v39-40... Jesus Christ pbuh says...be hold my hand and feet...its me Jesus...for a spirit doesn't have flash and Bones.... this is clearly that He is not dead.... even when was asked to give a sign if is a man of God...he said...no any sign i will show....you many of iniquity... Adult generation you keep on asking questions ...you don't follow the commandment of my Father and the teaching....the sign that i will show is the sign of Jhoner....as Jhoner Bubléd by the big fish three days three night alive shall the sun of man live on the heart of the earth as Jhoner
Which part was non sense ? I found some non sense logic from Christianity that god needs to pray to him and he didn't know what's coming. And you still believe jesus was the god and god get killed.
napoleon laguerre Quran doesn’t impress ignorants , brainless sheep who believe what idolator and drunkard Greek told about son of Mary Jesus who was neither Greek nor spoke Greek. Distance between Greek and Bethlehem is over 1500 kilometers. Use your brain.
But after reading Bible Bubble, I killed my own son and it makes sense?
Maybe if you was born long ago before jesus that you will said that the prophet is not real because make difficult live for you so you will choice to follow the rich king ,the false god..? Is it not they where commanded for war and also they got such rules that not too different like in final testament...?
Islam is so dead
قُلْ هُوَ اللَّهُ أَحَدٌ are you sure about that? I a point in what? You don't even know Christian theology in a clear way, you can see that on every debate
Siddiq Mohammed man viewing your reply I concluded that your understanding of Christian theology is really messed up, I bet that you've never read the bible, maybe because you're not allow to, you just repeat what other Muslim "apologists" say over and over again.
Siddiq Mohammed yeah Sure man, how come you don't understand the incarnation if you are aware of our theology to begin with? Lol
Siddiq Mohammed by the way your Quran says that your god is one and yet you refer the Quran as divine book.
Do you even know what does context mean?
Siddiq Mohammed strawman what? Is it divine or not?