Hi I’ve just sold my gravel bike too , for the same reason ( I need a ebike ) My age and medical condition. I have just purchased Merida eScultura 400 Electric Road Bike 2023 - Black . It’s very comfortable it’s more endurance. I got it for a little off road and wet roads . Unlike my Ribble Sle which is more racy , which I like when riding in a faster group . Hope you have a look at Merida . Or there the van rysel. Both bikes have the Mahle 35 x motor and both are shimano 105 11 speed . Hope this helps . Kev
I have 2 X20 bikes, the Orbea gain m30i has had problems since I collected from the shop, the battery was faulty, and it took around 3 months to get the battery changed, while I was waiting for the Orbea to get fixed, I ended up getting a Mondraker Dusty R, the Mondraker is a competent bike, and coped with the C2C from Whitehaven to Tynemouth over 4 days.I now use the Orbea for mainly road riding and the Mondraker with 45c tyres for off-road gravel rides,
Thanks, useful information. I assume the Orbea is now fixed? Other than that initial problem, which sounds as though it wasn't dealt with very well, is that the only reliability issue you have had? How does the handling on the road of the Gain and the Dusty compare?
@@FiveMinuteVelo Yes, it is fixed, I prefer the bigger tyres on the dusty, and I do like the Front fork cage mounting points, the only downside with the Mondraker is the battery range, seems to get about 10 to 15% less range from a battery charge, both have the same battery 350wh capacity,
I ride the old model of Canyon Grail:On and really like it and it's stable going downhill, The new Grail:On should be even better with a 1 degree slacker headangle. I like the Bosch motor the only downside is that is quite a bit of drag when going over 25 km/h, how is the Mahle motor over 25 km/h?
The Grail: ON looks awesome, but I think the newer Grizl:ON would be better suited to me. My main issue with the Grizl:ON (and Grail) is its cost the cheapest here in the UK is £4800. Canyon do the Pathlite:ON which is heavier, more suited to touring and at around £2500 only a little over half the price; it may need modifying (e.g. drop bars) for me though. My touring requirement, is one reason I have been holding off getting the Mondraker Dusty. I did hire an ebike in Mallorca that was fitted with a Bosch CX motor and boy did it fly with the motor on but it was rather ponderous with the motor off and at speeds above 25kph. Indeed I thought the CX had rather too much grunt, I like to do some of the work, which is why the SX motor looked interesting. The Mahle X35 on my last ebike seemed to have little drag, although I thought I could detect to at around and above 40kph. My wheel spin test comparing the X35 and the X20 fitted to the Dusty suggests the wheel rotational resistance on the X20 will be less. Thanks for taking the time to comment, even though I don't think the Grail:ON is for me, your comment has got me thinking.
@@FiveMinuteVelo Ohh Ithe new one is the Grizl:on, you should keep an eye on Canyons outlet because I guess they have probably had some Grizl:on out for tests that will turn up in the outlet shop :)
Sadly they put SRAM on it...instead of Shimano GRX. I'd walk before I'd ride anything with SRAM's name on it. Are Bianchi E-Impulso Allroads not on close-out in the UK? A friend in the USA sent me a link showing 'em at $2800 US. I paid $2K for a used one with 600 kms on it last year!
@@larryt.atcycleitalia5786 > I had a bike with SRAM on about 10 years ago and it was not good at all. This experience did bias me against SRAM. My latest experiences suggests that this bias should be discarded. It all actually works quite well and is nicely made. If you're a using mechanical groupset, the major differences in the double-tap changing system. I didn't like the double-tap first but you do get used to it. The brifter hoods also tend to be a different shape which you may or may not like. Currently there's only one reason why I would avoid SRAM and that is, if a bike has an XD style freewheel as the cassettes are non-reconfigurable and they tend to be very expensive. If you have a particular reason for your bias against SRAM, I'd love to know what it is. The bottom line is, I'm not saying you should fall in love with modern SRAM, but you should give it a go. Having said that, Shimano equipment is amazing and if you like it there's no reason to move away.
Thanks for the suggestion. If I were to go down the Ribble route I would probably go for a CGR or Gravel. The bikes are certainly fine apart from a few points. For me, the x35 system is good for general riding, but a bit weak for touring. The standard battery is also a bit on the small side, I know one can get a range extender but that's just extra expense and complication. However, for me Ribble's biggest downside is it's poor reputation for customer support.
@@FiveMinuteVelo then take a look at the newly announced Ribble All Road bike, it comes with the Mahle X20 motor & that's apparently 55nm torque, Vs the 40nm of the X35.
@@Brookes79 > that x20 is a nice upgrade and the bigger battery helps. However, it still seems to be appealing more to my heart than my head. Nice bike but maybe a bit too racy, not enough options for carrying luggage. Thanks for alerting me though, I missed that one as it's only been announced very recently.
Interesting suggestion. Thank you. I'm not sure that the motor would have enough poke for touring? Also, the battery is a bit on the small side. I know one can get a range extender, but that's just extra expense and complication.
@@tonystone3397 thanks, they have some interesting bike options. The trouble is that the ones that appeal most to me are X35 powered and the system is a little underpowered for touring and the battery too small.
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Bianchi E-Impulso Allroad bikes are on sale. Slap on some slicks, swap the dumb flared gravel bars out and enjoy! If I knew then what I know now....
Hi I’ve just sold my gravel bike too , for the same reason ( I need a ebike )
My age and medical condition.
I have just purchased Merida eScultura 400 Electric Road Bike 2023 - Black .
It’s very comfortable it’s more endurance. I got it for a little off road and wet roads .
Unlike my Ribble Sle which is more racy , which I like when riding in a faster group .
Hope you have a look at Merida .
Or there the van rysel. Both bikes have the Mahle 35 x motor and both are shimano 105 11 speed .
Hope this helps .
Kev
I have 2 X20 bikes, the Orbea gain m30i has had problems since I collected from the shop, the battery was faulty, and it took around 3 months to get the battery changed, while I was waiting for the Orbea to get fixed, I ended up getting a Mondraker Dusty R, the Mondraker is a competent bike, and coped with the C2C from Whitehaven to Tynemouth over 4 days.I now use the Orbea for mainly road riding and the Mondraker with 45c tyres for off-road gravel rides,
Thanks, useful information. I assume the Orbea is now fixed?
Other than that initial problem, which sounds as though it wasn't dealt with very well, is that the only reliability issue you have had?
How does the handling on the road of the Gain and the Dusty compare?
@@FiveMinuteVelo Yes, it is fixed, I prefer the bigger tyres on the dusty, and I do like the Front fork cage mounting points, the only downside with the Mondraker is the battery range, seems to get about 10 to 15% less range from a battery charge, both have the same battery 350wh capacity,
I ride the old model of Canyon Grail:On and really like it and it's stable going downhill, The new Grail:On should be even better with a 1 degree slacker headangle.
I like the Bosch motor the only downside is that is quite a bit of drag when going over 25 km/h, how is the Mahle motor over 25 km/h?
The Grail: ON looks awesome, but I think the newer Grizl:ON would be better suited to me. My main issue with the Grizl:ON (and Grail) is its cost the cheapest here in the UK is £4800. Canyon do the Pathlite:ON which is heavier, more suited to touring and at around £2500 only a little over half the price; it may need modifying (e.g. drop bars) for me though. My touring requirement, is one reason I have been holding off getting the Mondraker Dusty.
I did hire an ebike in Mallorca that was fitted with a Bosch CX motor and boy did it fly with the motor on but it was rather ponderous with the motor off and at speeds above 25kph. Indeed I thought the CX had rather too much grunt, I like to do some of the work, which is why the SX motor looked interesting. The Mahle X35 on my last ebike seemed to have little drag, although I thought I could detect to at around and above 40kph. My wheel spin test comparing the X35 and the X20 fitted to the Dusty suggests the wheel rotational resistance on the X20 will be less. Thanks for taking the time to comment, even though I don't think the Grail:ON is for me, your comment has got me thinking.
@@FiveMinuteVelo Ohh Ithe new one is the Grizl:on, you should keep an eye on Canyons outlet because I guess they have probably had some Grizl:on out for tests that will turn up in the outlet shop :)
Was in decathlon and saw the van rysel e bike gravel ,2500 pounds ,looked really well specced .
@@rundt7605 Thanks, I'll take a look.
Sadly they put SRAM on it...instead of Shimano GRX. I'd walk before I'd ride anything with SRAM's name on it. Are Bianchi E-Impulso Allroads not on close-out in the UK? A friend in the USA sent me a link showing 'em at $2800 US. I paid $2K for a used one with 600 kms on it last year!
@@larryt.atcycleitalia5786 > I had a bike with SRAM on about 10 years ago and it was not good at all. This experience did bias me against SRAM.
My latest experiences suggests that this bias should be discarded. It all actually works quite well and is nicely made. If you're a using mechanical groupset, the major differences in the double-tap changing system. I didn't like the double-tap first but you do get used to it. The brifter hoods also tend to be a different shape which you may or may not like.
Currently there's only one reason why I would avoid SRAM and that is, if a bike has an XD style freewheel as the cassettes are non-reconfigurable and they tend to be very expensive.
If you have a particular reason for your bias against SRAM, I'd love to know what it is.
The bottom line is, I'm not saying you should fall in love with modern SRAM, but you should give it a go. Having said that, Shimano equipment is amazing and if you like it there's no reason to move away.
How about the Ribble CGR ale?
Thanks for the suggestion. If I were to go down the Ribble route I would probably go for a CGR or Gravel. The bikes are certainly fine apart from a few points. For me, the x35 system is good for general riding, but a bit weak for touring. The standard battery is also a bit on the small side, I know one can get a range extender but that's just extra expense and complication. However, for me Ribble's biggest downside is it's poor reputation for customer support.
@@FiveMinuteVelo then take a look at the newly announced Ribble All Road bike, it comes with the Mahle X20 motor & that's apparently 55nm torque, Vs the 40nm of the X35.
@@Brookes79 > that x20 is a nice upgrade and the bigger battery helps. However, it still seems to be appealing more to my heart than my head. Nice bike but maybe a bit too racy, not enough options for carrying luggage. Thanks for alerting me though, I missed that one as it's only been announced very recently.
Have you tried looking at the specialised Vado SL?
Interesting suggestion. Thank you. I'm not sure that the motor would have enough poke for touring? Also, the battery is a bit on the small side. I know one can get a range extender, but that's just extra expense and complication.
As others have said some great E-bikes at Decathlon.
@@tonystone3397 thanks, they have some interesting bike options. The trouble is that the ones that appeal most to me are X35 powered and the system is a little underpowered for touring and the battery too small.