Man I remember the first time I saw a ps4 games running. It was my senior year of high school and I was at states for track and field for the weekend. One of the (rich) kids on the team brought his ps4 and hooked it up in the common area we were staying and we all played mortal kombat X. There must have been a dozen or two of us hanging out having the times of our lives. If that’s not nostalgic, boy I dunno what is!
As a German I can say you've pronounced it properly. Sometimes we mix Hefe Weissbier with banana juice. Sounds crazy but its delicious in the summer.Keep on going with your dope content!
Agree with you guys all around on the PS4! Standard vs Pro, NEEDING an external HD, and being patient on games! In the modern era of gaming, waiting for the game price to go down to get the same experience for MUCH less is the same feeling I have. Aside from a couple steelbooks I wanted, no games bought on release. I have had that tastey beer as well, Cheers.
Ive had the slim for years. Ive been a PS fan since i got a ps1 as a kid. But i just lacked the room to collect and maintain a eclectic collection through the years for ps1-3. Ps4 is going to the one I put effort into. Solid video gents
I still need to play through it. Loved the original. I have the Remake installed and ready to go. I just need to finish a couple games before I jump in. Cheers!
I was playing the waiting game with this title (waiting for that $20 retail price) but I got it free for PS Plus...know I wont buy it physical unless I find it for under $10...
Fantastic buying guide guys! The PS4 is easily one of my favorite consoles it is just so damn good! Hopefully the PS5 can live up to it but I am not seeing it yet
I absolutely love the ps4. I ended up having more games for it than any other generation. I would grab the PSVR games you want now if you collect physically. They are going to be very collectible in the future. Nice video guys👍
I feel like the ps4 game value will more or less follow the ps2 model. Dirt cheap for years and years then the 120 million kids who grew up with one will want one again in their late 20s causing it to skyrocket
@@gaylordfocker7990 It's been trending upwards albeit nowhere near the level of Gamecube. You can still get most games for $10-30 bucks but if you're interested in niche horror games/JRPGs those are $300+ easily now lol.
I don’t believe it will as much, if prices go up people will always have the digital alternative unlike the PS2 where you have to go out of your way to pirate the game and even hacking the console.
With Ps5 being backwards compatible, I dont think people will be eager to buy one in 10+ years. They'll be masses of them available at cheap prices for years.
I got my PS4 six months after launch, Sony launched it in Malaysia almost concurrent with the rest of the world and I paid roughly US$350 for it. My first games for it were The Last of Us Remastered and Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes. Traded my PS4 in for a discount towards the PS4 Pro in 2017, and unfortunately I haven't touched it since completing Spider-Man last year. (I'm a home theater enthusiast, so I really wanted 4K output, even though most games are rendered at 1440p) Speaking of controllers, the DualShock4 is a welcome upgrade. I always thought the DualShock3 felt like a toy compared to the Xbox 360 controller. It still doesn't feel as "premium" as an Xbox One controller though.
Totally agree on the controllers. The PS3 controller feels cheap for sure. Love the console though. And the XBOX One controller is great. But for what the elites sell for they should be lol. Cheers!
Great video guys! I’ve really enjoyed this series you all have done. I’ve had every PlayStation console and then traded them in to upgrade to the next generation but I’m planning on keeping my PS4 so I can collect all the games I’ve missed over the years. Keep up the great work fellas!
Don't forget you can stream to the PSTV as well. So you can have your PS4 on multiple tv's in different rooms. Here are some more games to check out: Battlezone (a patch makes it where VR is not required) Darksiders Genesis (great couch co-op) Dragon's Crown Pro Dreams the 2 Spiderman games Ratchet and clank (I know it is a re-release but it is still fun) All of the Uncharted games Wild guns reloaded. I love buying for the PS4. You guys are 100% correct. It is super cheap to collect for the PS4. My average price is around $8 per game. Lots of people are dumping the system and all their games trying to save up for a PS5. Let them do it and you can make a massive backlog of games that will last longer than the PS5 shortage.
If you're ever in Oregon for a gaming Expo or something along those lines then you guys def need to hit up a McMenamins brewery!! Coolest locations for any brewery hands down!!
Then add the fact they are putting games on PC and losing lots of devs that once only made games on PS but now put their games on PS, switch and PC. Yeah PS5 is pretty pointless.
Just got a refurbished PlayStation 4 pro for $360.00 bucks with all necessary cords and a controller from best buy. I'm happy with it so far. Lots of affordable games is a big bonus
Recently purchased a PS5 last week I have had the original PS4 since launch I ain't going to lie there's no reason to upgrade right now I'm only playing Returnal and Astros playroom yep it looks great on a 4K TV but most upcoming PS5 games (except) Ratchet & Clank are still going to be released on PS4 there's no need to upgrade. PS4 is a great console hope it gets love and support just like the PS2 did for many years cheers 👍
Honestly if you previously own an original ps4/ps4 slim over a ps4 pro you don’t need to comeback to ps4 and just upgrade to ps5. Thankfully the ps5 made ratchet & clank ps4, the last of us 2 and ghost of tsushima finally playable with 60fps even on ps4 pro they stuck with 30fps.
That's comforting, I thought I was the only gamer still using a 1080p TV.. Another incentive to hang in there with a PS4 pro - When I go PS5, I'm going to need a new TV too...
Love this channel! Y’all are awesome man! Also I was just like y’all and slept on the wii back when it came out. I didn’t get one till 2017 and now it’s one of my fav consoles!
I’m from Bavaria especially from Franconia. And there are so many awesome Beers out there you will get insane. I love the Zirndorfer or the Tucher. There are a lot of variations like the Weissbier or the Pilsener. I like also the Radler. It’s a mix from Weissbier and Lemon Lemonade. Or the same Beer with Coke. Especially in the warm Sommerdays there is less better than a ice cold Radler. Just my two cents. Great Video Guys!
The PSVR is the pinnacle of video gaming. My faves are Astrobot Rescue Mission, Ironman, Moss, TrackMania Turbo, Everybody’s Golf, Worlds. I still have a backlog of Squadrons, Ultrawings, Creed, Ace Combat 7, No Man’s Sky, Blood and Truth…
I actually just convinced myself to get a PS4 slim recently since I somehow managed to find room for it amongst my 19 other consoles lol. I love my Xbox One and will get any physical game I can for it over my other Gen 8 consoles, but when it comes to PlayStation I always want the exclusives and any game that primarily uses the D-Pad for play. PS4 has plenty of that, and I'm always finding cool stuff for it including one you guys just mentioned which was Nex Machina so thanks a bunch for sharing that. That add one more title to my wants list lol. Only thing I'm currently worried about right now is the CMOS battery issue that the PS4 and PS5 have, it makes a long term collection investment kind of scary. If I have any games I could recommend to you two, I would like to point you to Assault Suit Leynos and the Earth Defense Force series. EDF would be especially good for you two since it has local split screen co-op for two so you can both enjoy it together. Have a good one fellas and cheers! :)
Shoot,I still play my Psp and Vita at least once a month. Just bought a few games for my older Playstation consoles recently while prices remain reasonable unlike older Nintendo games going for some serious dough !
Now is the perfect time to own a PS4. People are going nuts over a PS5 and I literally never play mine. There's nothing out there for it. PS4 games are so cheap my backlog is stupid, but I love it. Never had a Doug Heffernan beer, but you guys sold me on this one. Gonna have to see if I can find one around here. Great video as always!!
I still play on my ps4 pro which is newer than the original ps4 and even though the ps5 is out the ps4 pro has Amazing Exclusive games I bought uncharted 4 for 5 dollars at my local GameStop and the most I bought a game for is 20 dollars the deals are Amazing who needs an 800 dollar ps5 and 70 dollar games the prices with new consoles and games are ridiculous I can play my ps4 pro for several more years and games are still being released until 2025😁😁😁
Great stuff Wes& Robert and thanks for sharing y’all video with me thanks 🙏🙏❤️❤️😱😱🤩🤩👍👍 I love my ps4pro console and thanks guys excellent topics guys 👏👏
Good advice. The last day one console I purchased was the PS2. Since then, I have been purposely late to the party 😄 I got my PS4 at the end of 2018 which was probably too soon but I sold Spiderman that came with it a got RDR2. My wife got me Valhalla for Christmas but apart from that, I don't think I have paid more than £15 for a game. A good game will always be a good game regardless of when you play it. I have recently got Alien Isolation with all the DLC's in the PS store sale for less than £10 which for a game that came out in 2014 on the PS3 is still a really good-looking game even by today's standards IMO and I'm enjoying it loads so far. Horizon Zero Dawn was recently given away free by Sony. The Unchartered collection was given away free last year during lockdown, Ratchet and Clank (which I got for £4 on eBay) was given away free this year. Like you guys said it is rare that you can't get what you want for less than £10. It might be something that has come with age (I'm 37) but I haven't been in a rush to have the latest and best of anything for a long time. Since the PS2 there has always been a slim or super slim version. A version with a bigger hard drive or better cooling or better components etc etc. And the games will usually have all the bugs ironed out or a version with all the DLC's will be available. The only thing I really want to try out is VR but I don't know anyone that has one so I can't borrow it and it still costs more than I want to pay to take gamble and try it. But if it wasn't for the people buying the latest and greatest and then getting bored then people like me would get the bargains I do, so thank you 😄
Sounds a lot like us :). We are cheap. Nothing like getting 4-5 games for what most are paying for one. And Alien Isolation, F'n love that game. Cheers!
When I couldn't find a PS5, then I bought a PS4 Pro since I had a 4K TV to take the place of my PS4. I have a huge backlog. So, I'll be playing the Pro for awhile
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There is a HUGE benefit to being a generation behind! About 3 years ago I picked up a used PS3 to be a file server for my PSP & Vita. Figured I'd check out some games and damn they were cheap! The PS4 is at that point now
Great video and point guys. All the new games are still coming to PS4, God of War Ragnarok, Gran Turismo, and Horizon Forbidden West, which most are delayed and would be dumb for Sony not to put on the PS4 with it's massive install base. I have 2 PS4 Pro's, one the Spiderman Special Edition and the other Death Stranding Special Edition and not a PS5 yet. I do have a Xbox Series X which was the one I got to reserve and purchase and glad I at least got one of the new consoles. But really I'm in no need or hurry for me to get one. I feel if I had a PS5 it would just be playing PS4 games on it. Just like I'm playing Xbox One games on my Series X. PS4 is such a great console and massive library. I'm still playing backlog games for the PS4 and Xbox one and will still collect and get games for both. Cheers 🍻 guys.
Only got the PS4Pro when it first came out. This generation is still quite active for me and will be for the forseeable future. I will never buy the PS5.
I also didn't get the PS4 until the Pro came out, I might get a PS5 if they get something like Bloodborne 2 as an exclusive. But most exclusives for now are cross generation for PS4 and PS5.
I was the last person on the Western Hemisphere to purchase a PS4 😂... bought a PS4 Pro in November 2019. All the best games were only around $20 dollars and they’re AAA games!!! Sometimes the exclusives are on sale for $10 dollars! That’s brand new sealed! Cheap. I also used my PS4 Pro to stream Netflix before I got a smart TV which streams it from the TV. Good console and great games hella cheap 😁... super cheap and probably won’t ever get too expensive because so many consoles and games were sold. And! I think since Sony is still supporting the PS3 they’re for sure not gonna abandoned the PS4 which sold 110 million +... that digital game store and servers will be up for a long time... even the PS5 can play PS4 disc and your digital games carry over to the PS5
Great content guys! Rush of Blood is a fantastic VR shooter in the vain of House of Dead. It’s double gun fun!!! Also, the PS4 is a 3D movie player that looks great in VR. I started collecting 3D movies because it’s so much fun; something the PS5 cannot do. A reason I won’t be getting rid of mine.
Thanks for reminding me about that, I've been using my Ps3 to play 3d movies and wasn't aware that Ps4 also plays 3d movies. Time for a 3d movie marathon this weekend...
I got PS4Pro early 2018 right around when SpiderMan came out. It appears most exclusives for the foreseeable future will be cross generation between PS4/PS5, so I am hoping to get a few more years out of it. My favorite exclusive is Bloodborne and my favorite game on it overall is Witcher 3.
I had fun playing the last of us remaster but had to quit it because it gave me nausea to the point I felt like I was going to throw up after 30 minute playthroughs. Only game I can remember making me feel that way.
Red Dead Redemption 2 was my favorite game on PS4 Pro hands down can't get any better for me (obv not an exclusive though lol) I didn't really play a lot of games this generation sadly. But it's amazing to still be able to boot up RDR2's Story 2 and a half or 3 years later after beating it and still finding new content, characters and easter eggs yk so good
I'm looking for a ps4 now for almost 2 years, and its hard to find cheap here in Portugal, also ps4 games for 1$?? Impossible here xD But yeah I feel like in the near future prices will drop! :) Awesome vídeo as always!
Still holding onto my precious PS4 and still love every gaming moment on it. Interested in getting Dragon Fighter Z for it next real soon. Anyone know where I might find that on the cheap or when the next deal in the digital store might be? Also, I love all the retro archive and NeoGeo classics available to download on the PS4 as well! :D B)
Would you recommend replacing a Playstation 4 with the Pro? I have a 4k tv so I prefer 4k I checked in my area and they currently sell for $200 to $250 usd used.
In your scenario yes! We dont have experience with it since we dont have the fancy new tvs! But we have heard thats the play! Your playstation 4 will still look good but to pick up the full 4k experience you will want to upgrade! Cheers!
@@GamingOffTheGrid Sweet! I upgraded to Xbox Series X from the One S to get the full 4k experience. But that was because my back compat games would look better too, so I got a lot of value. The ps5 is a much harder sell since my ps2/3 game won’t run on it. So I’m sticking with cheaper options. Also because of sour grapes that Sony won’t even try to address backwards compatibility.
My only issue with my white PS4 that I have had since 14-15, is with frame rate drops, long loading times, and at times freezes on me and exits me out with problems to keep reporting to Sony and that irritates me to the point of me not playing on my system anymore and I'm fine with that. I'll wait it out to get the Special Edition PS5 and from there play the rest of my PS4 games on that. I'll just keep sticking with my 80GB (upgraded to 1TB SSHD) PS3 and definitely finish off my cabinet collection for that until then.
Death Stranding is another good console exclusive. The gameplay is not for everyone, but you can't deny it is innovative and gorgeous, and a console highlight. I believe it is pretty cheap too.
Good question. Could be because using an external is pretty easy and most common gamers aren't super comfortable opening up consoles. Who knows. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
How do y’all feel about the dreaded battery issue in the console?? Sucks! I hope they fix this for the future so we can enjoy our physical copies of games in the future.
Ps4 is one of the most successful ones and the biggest let downs for me and what consoles I have and play, as the games that came out were great but I cant play any of my ps2 and ps3 games on it like I can with my ps3
I was really hoping PS5 would address this more than anything else. I like the Xbox approach, yeah, not everything is backwards compatible, but many games from every Xbox generation are.
It was a fairly large leap too, at least it felt like it at the time. I'm excited about the current Gen but just need there to be more games before I make the jump. I'm guessing 2023 will be the year :)
I was just thinking to myself, after they stopped the ps vue service I used my ps4 a lot less. I love that console but it's no longer my media hub so I don't use it all the time anymore.
I am always almost a generation behind, the price point is much more favorable that way. The PS4 games are getting cheap so now is the time! I got the PS4 pro with VR for $100. The hard drive still was not big enough so I added a 4TB to it.
Yeah have you guys heard of the CMOS battery issue for the ps4? It was a issue for the ps3 and is worse for the PS4. Also I know it is just me but to say you got games for free with PS plus is not true. You got those games with the service and once you cancel those games will not work. Great video guys! Love the Stone Cold shirt!
I couldn't believe the first time I put a CD in my Sony, that is right Sony ps4 and it didn't play. Looking back on your previous videos. Big props for your opinion on PS3 Rambo game. It is super hard and awkward control but still great. Have you seen the metacritic score? Another great Ps3 game is Painkiller. Hugs.
LOL! Damn it Sony! Some of us still have CD's ya know :). Oh yes, Rambo is so much fun. The game is a train wreck but a delight to play for Rambo fans. I'll have to look into to Painkiller. Pretty sure that one is tough to find in the states. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
My friend gifted me their PlayStation 4 Pro and the only games that I recommend to get the Pro is Spider-Man and Ghost of Tsushima. The Persona series is great and you'll pick up more things then you did on your first play through. Got Anthem for a dollar for the PS4 at a retail store. And I was wondering if you would like to come on a episode of a passion project of mine and I'm running the passion project on the PS4 because that's one of the great things about the PS4 is that I can either stream my walkthroughs of my games or record my passion projects on the PS4
The last game I paid full price for was 2018s God of War...it was discounted to $20 b4 I was able to beat it...so now I just wait...I have plenty of games in the backlog....also...when you buy PS4 games,ur just building ur PS5 collection
Never got into the PS4 when it released. Mine was broke out of the box. I went with Xbox. No regrets. But the PS5 is impressing me. Plus now they have backwards compatibility and PS Now/Plus. Sony is back kicking ass again! Cheers.
Enjoy the low game prices and start building your collection. Sega Dreamcast and Gamecube prices are crazy right now. Ps Vita and N64 game prices are also going up since the pandemic began. But the absolute worse is car prices 😫 Just bought a new truck after having to choose from only two on the entire lot !! Don't even ask how much I paid lol...
Looks up physical Nex Machina on eBay, $50+. Looks up Nex Machina on PSN, 75% off for $4.99. Sold! Thanks fellas, love the channel. Also, collecting from the PS3 and beyond is pointless in my opinion. Waaaaaaaay to many downloads and what % of games are actually on the disc themselves, 75% at best?
I need to try and finish Horizon Zero Dong before the sequel comes out. Just ordered Dark Souls Trilogy today. I also love the PS4 for the JRPG's like Persona 5 etc
Lookin at my shelf right now, Kingdom Hearts Collection, If you adore Kingdom Hearts or are a retired Kingdom Hearts fan like I am it's the console to play them on. Final Fantasy X (Even tho I slightly prefer the PS2 version, PS4 is still excellent.) Nier Automata (playing it now and holy sh!t, amazing game I'm hooked.) Hyper Light Drifter... (Not the Definitive Edition to play the game. That would be Switch but still amazing.) Borderlands 2 (the best Borderlands) Tales of Vesperia DE (Finally don't have to jailbreak a PS3.... Even tho you should 😉) Bastion (Absolute indie classic) Sonic Mania (Great 2D Sonic game) Valkyria Chronicles Remastered (Gem) Valkyria Chronicles IV (takes everything you love about VC I and makes it better.) Ys VIII (Another Gem) Odin Sphere (Best way to play that game) CTR Crash Team Racing (Outside the micro transactions sublime) World of Final Fantasy Maxima (Best Pokemon game of all time 😉)
The PS4 is so good, I’m really surprised neither of you have a Pro model yet though. You should both definitely try Farpoint on the PSVR but make sure you use an Aim controller....it’s the next level for light gun games👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Every time PS4 comes up you tease me with Nex Machina.....I’d love a physical copy but too expensive unfortunately. I have a digital but physical is always better.
I think PS4 games will hold values since PS5 will play them. Not new values but I don't think a $10 game today will be $1 in a year because of time passing. As long as PS5 supports PS4 games, I think that will help their values. I have a PS5 and I sold my PS4 (with a 2TB Internal HD that I upgraded) and I regretted selling it the week after. Hold onto your PS4 people.....IT IS A FANTASTIC system!
It is a great system indeed. I have yet to feel the urge to upgrade to a PS5. I'm sure I will at some point but still loving the 4. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
I don't know guys, you say "why would you get a PS5?", well even if there are not many PS5 games (there are actually more PS5 games than there were PS4 games 7 years ago), the PS5 is BC with the PS4 and plays the games the best way possible (better framerate/resolution). So if i did not have a PS4 i would just try to save a little more and wait for a PS5, its basically a perfect PS4, it plays all the games better AND it is a PS5 so you get PS5 games for the next 7 years. Also about physical games, i don't know man, most games can be installed and played without a need for internet conection, so i think it will become collectable.
I think what's gonna hurt the PS4, in the long run, is that the PS5 is backwards compatible with all but a literal handful of games from the PS4 library. Yes, right now that console is much harder to get your hands on than a PS4 or PS4 Pro, but when the stock issues are solved, I think the PS4 as a console is gonna lose out. Even the PSVR can be used on the PS5 and the games can run just a bit faster (speaking from playing KH3 on the PS5, it's faster but load times are still there). So in the future, I think the PS4 is gonna fall to the wayside in favor of the original PS5 (I say original because you know in the future there's going to be a slim or pro model).
Man I remember the first time I saw a ps4 games running. It was my senior year of high school and I was at states for track and field for the weekend. One of the (rich) kids on the team brought his ps4 and hooked it up in the common area we were staying and we all played mortal kombat X. There must have been a dozen or two of us hanging out having the times of our lives. If that’s not nostalgic, boy I dunno what is!
As a German I can say you've pronounced it properly. Sometimes we mix Hefe Weissbier with banana juice. Sounds crazy but its delicious in the summer.Keep on going with your dope content!
Agree with you guys all around on the PS4! Standard vs Pro, NEEDING an external HD, and being patient on games! In the modern era of gaming, waiting for the game price to go down to get the same experience for MUCH less is the same feeling I have. Aside from a couple steelbooks I wanted, no games bought on release. I have had that tastey beer as well, Cheers.
The PS4 is really easy to replace the internal drive though.
Ive had the slim for years. Ive been a PS fan since i got a ps1 as a kid. But i just lacked the room to collect and maintain a eclectic collection through the years for ps1-3.
Ps4 is going to the one I put effort into. Solid video gents
Schell's Brewery in New Ulm, MN. Second oldest brewery in the states. They've got some good stuff. Check 'em out.
I am going to try out that Brewery. Thanks for the shout out.
Great video guys! Love that Austin 3:16 shirt, Rob. I am also going to keep a look out for that delicious hefeweizen!
what!? what!? what!? because thats the bottom line because stone cold said so
As a 40 year old gamer that played the original when it came out, Final Fantasy 7 Remake is the ultimate PS4 system seller for me. Such a great game!!
I still need to play through it. Loved the original. I have the Remake installed and ready to go. I just need to finish a couple games before I jump in. Cheers!
I was playing the waiting game with this title (waiting for that $20 retail price) but I got it free for PS Plus...know I wont buy it physical unless I find it for under $10...
@@jimmyjay689 it deserves the asking price , it's a great game especially on ps5
Fantastic buying guide guys! The PS4 is easily one of my favorite consoles it is just so damn good! Hopefully the PS5 can live up to it but I am not seeing it yet
After learning my lesson for waiting too long to buy the original PS3, I reserved and picked up the PS4 on launch day. You guys rock!
Getting it on launch day is impressive! Like all there consoles alot of people struggle to get the. right away! Cheers!
What lesson did you learn? I got my Ps3 2 years ago for < $100.
I absolutely love the ps4. I ended up having more games for it than any other generation. I would grab the PSVR games you want now if you collect physically. They are going to be very collectible in the future. Nice video guys👍
My ps4 backlog alone will probably carry me until the ps5 pro becomes available on retailer’s shelves.
LOL! Totally feel ya. Hell ours could probably carry me until it's time for a dirt nap. Cheers!
I feel like the ps4 game value will more or less follow the ps2 model. Dirt cheap for years and years then the 120 million kids who grew up with one will want one again in their late 20s causing it to skyrocket
PS2 is expensive now? I was getting complete games for like $2-3 just two years ago.
@@gaylordfocker7990 It's been trending upwards albeit nowhere near the level of Gamecube. You can still get most games for $10-30 bucks but if you're interested in niche horror games/JRPGs those are $300+ easily now lol.
I don’t believe it will as much, if prices go up people will always have the digital alternative unlike the PS2 where you have to go out of your way to pirate the game and even hacking the console.
@@spanishginger That's what mcboot is for.
With Ps5 being backwards compatible, I dont think people will be eager to buy one in 10+ years. They'll be masses of them available at cheap prices for years.
the internal hard drives are easy to replace in all ps4 models with a 2tb or even 8tb ssd
Sony is so kind to us
I didn’t get a PS4 until 2018 when I saw Detroit Become Human . Still too many games I haven’t even played half way through . I love it .
there is definitely a good catalog of games to play and this is the best time to collect for the ps4
I got my PS4 six months after launch, Sony launched it in Malaysia almost concurrent with the rest of the world and I paid roughly US$350 for it. My first games for it were The Last of Us Remastered and Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes.
Traded my PS4 in for a discount towards the PS4 Pro in 2017, and unfortunately I haven't touched it since completing Spider-Man last year. (I'm a home theater enthusiast, so I really wanted 4K output, even though most games are rendered at 1440p)
Speaking of controllers, the DualShock4 is a welcome upgrade. I always thought the DualShock3 felt like a toy compared to the Xbox 360 controller. It still doesn't feel as "premium" as an Xbox One controller though.
Totally agree on the controllers. The PS3 controller feels cheap for sure. Love the console though. And the XBOX One controller is great. But for what the elites sell for they should be lol. Cheers!
@@GamingOffTheGrid LOL
Haven't used an Elite controller, they're much too expensive for me
Great video guys! I’ve really enjoyed this series you all have done. I’ve had every PlayStation console and then traded them in to upgrade to the next generation but I’m planning on keeping my PS4 so I can collect all the games I’ve missed over the years. Keep up the great work fellas!
Don't forget you can stream to the PSTV as well. So you can have your PS4 on multiple tv's in different rooms.
Here are some more games to check out:
Battlezone (a patch makes it where VR is not required)
Darksiders Genesis (great couch co-op)
Dragon's Crown Pro
Dreams
the 2 Spiderman games
Ratchet and clank (I know it is a re-release but it is still fun)
All of the Uncharted games
Wild guns reloaded.
I love buying for the PS4. You guys are 100% correct. It is super cheap to collect for the PS4. My average price is around $8 per game. Lots of people are dumping the system and all their games trying to save up for a PS5. Let them do it and you can make a massive backlog of games that will last longer than the PS5 shortage.
Excellent video by the way. Loved it.
If you're ever in Oregon for a gaming Expo or something along those lines then you guys def need to hit up a McMenamins brewery!! Coolest locations for any brewery hands down!!
Totally dude. We might hit PRGE this year if we can swing it. If not we will next year for sure.
I got a PS4 Pro and then bought 24 of the best games for £120 off eBay. Good times 👍
Awesome man! Thats what so awesome about the PS4 right now! Can build a nice collection for cheap! Cheers!
God of War 2, Horizon Zero Dawn 2 and Gran Turismo 7 all coming to PS4. No need for a PS5 yet.
Yes! Amen to that!
Then add the fact they are putting games on PC and losing lots of devs that once only made games on PS but now put their games on PS, switch and PC. Yeah PS5 is pretty pointless.
Awesome video!! Remote play on the vita helped me get through all those hours of Persona 5. Lol
Just got a refurbished PlayStation 4 pro for $360.00 bucks with all necessary cords and a controller from best buy. I'm happy with it so far. Lots of affordable games is a big bonus
yeah you can find many ps4 games cheap out in the wild now. good time to collect for it
Recently purchased a PS5 last week I have had the original PS4 since launch I ain't going to lie there's no reason to upgrade right now I'm only playing Returnal and Astros playroom yep it looks great on a 4K TV but most upcoming PS5 games (except) Ratchet & Clank are still going to be released on PS4 there's no need to upgrade. PS4 is a great console hope it gets love and support just like the PS2 did for many years cheers 👍
Honestly if you previously own an original ps4/ps4 slim over a ps4 pro you don’t need to comeback to ps4 and just upgrade to ps5.
Thankfully the ps5 made ratchet & clank ps4, the last of us 2 and ghost of tsushima finally playable with 60fps even on ps4 pro they stuck with 30fps.
That's comforting, I thought I was the only gamer still using a 1080p TV.. Another incentive to hang in there with a PS4 pro - When I go PS5, I'm going to need a new TV too...
we are always late to upgrading. we dobt rush into the newest things
Love this channel! Y’all are awesome man! Also I was just like y’all and slept on the wii back when it came out. I didn’t get one till 2017 and now it’s one of my fav consoles!
Thanks a ton dude! Glad you are enjoying the vids. Nothing like getting into an older console on the cheap and loving it. Cheers!
I’m from Bavaria especially from Franconia. And there are so many awesome Beers out there you will get insane. I love the Zirndorfer or the Tucher. There are a lot of variations like the Weissbier or the Pilsener. I like also the Radler. It’s a mix from Weissbier and Lemon Lemonade. Or the same Beer with Coke. Especially in the warm Sommerdays there is less better than a ice cold Radler. Just my two cents. Great Video Guys!
Excellent beer review!!!!! Sounds delicious!
Another great video! Great job gents! 13k here we go!
And some snapped necks in HITZ! Looking forward to our long steam Sunday broski!
The PSVR is the pinnacle of video gaming. My faves are Astrobot Rescue Mission, Ironman, Moss, TrackMania Turbo, Everybody’s Golf, Worlds. I still have a backlog of Squadrons, Ultrawings, Creed, Ace Combat 7, No Man’s Sky, Blood and Truth…
lots of people do dig vr. it makes us have motion sickness after a little bit. it can be fun but i think some people can struggle with it
I actually just convinced myself to get a PS4 slim recently since I somehow managed to find room for it amongst my 19 other consoles lol. I love my Xbox One and will get any physical game I can for it over my other Gen 8 consoles, but when it comes to PlayStation I always want the exclusives and any game that primarily uses the D-Pad for play. PS4 has plenty of that, and I'm always finding cool stuff for it including one you guys just mentioned which was Nex Machina so thanks a bunch for sharing that. That add one more title to my wants list lol. Only thing I'm currently worried about right now is the CMOS battery issue that the PS4 and PS5 have, it makes a long term collection investment kind of scary. If I have any games I could recommend to you two, I would like to point you to Assault Suit Leynos and the Earth Defense Force series. EDF would be especially good for you two since it has local split screen co-op for two so you can both enjoy it together. Have a good one fellas and cheers! :)
I only had my ps4 for about a year now and I wish I would have got one earlier. But I been playing on my ps3 and my ps2.
PS3 and PS2 are still in heavy rotation with us too. Still fun as hell to play to this day. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
Shoot,I still play my Psp and Vita at least once a month. Just bought a few games for my older Playstation consoles recently while prices remain reasonable unlike older Nintendo games going for some serious dough !
@@spursdynasty7378 so true. Where I live all retro games are climbing
Just found your channel this week, love it and your videos and the gaming off the grid concept. Keep up the good work!
Now is the perfect time to own a PS4. People are going nuts over a PS5 and I literally never play mine. There's nothing out there for it. PS4 games are so cheap my backlog is stupid, but I love it. Never had a Doug Heffernan beer, but you guys sold me on this one. Gonna have to see if I can find one around here. Great video as always!!
This new generation of consoles is very interesting. Still hardly any games. Yet they are selling out of consoles like crazy. Perplexing. Cheers!
I still play on my ps4 pro which is newer than the original ps4 and even though the ps5 is out the ps4 pro has Amazing Exclusive games I bought uncharted 4 for 5 dollars at my local GameStop and the most I bought a game for is 20 dollars the deals are Amazing who needs an 800 dollar ps5 and 70 dollar games the prices with new consoles and games are ridiculous I can play my ps4 pro for several more years and games are still being released until 2025😁😁😁
For sure man! Definitely no rush to upgrade! Cheers!
Great stuff Wes& Robert and thanks for sharing y’all video with me thanks 🙏🙏❤️❤️😱😱🤩🤩👍👍 I love my ps4pro console and thanks guys excellent topics guys 👏👏
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching. Much appreciated. Cheers!
@@GamingOffTheGrid you’re welcome wes& Robert and it’s always been my pleasure too thanks again guys 👊👊👊❤️❤️
Good advice. The last day one console I purchased was the PS2. Since then, I have been purposely late to the party 😄 I got my PS4 at the end of 2018 which was probably too soon but I sold Spiderman that came with it a got RDR2. My wife got me Valhalla for Christmas but apart from that, I don't think I have paid more than £15 for a game. A good game will always be a good game regardless of when you play it.
I have recently got Alien Isolation with all the DLC's in the PS store sale for less than £10 which for a game that came out in 2014 on the PS3 is still a really good-looking game even by today's standards IMO and I'm enjoying it loads so far. Horizon Zero Dawn was recently given away free by Sony. The Unchartered collection was given away free last year during lockdown, Ratchet and Clank (which I got for £4 on eBay) was given away free this year. Like you guys said it is rare that you can't get what you want for less than £10.
It might be something that has come with age (I'm 37) but I haven't been in a rush to have the latest and best of anything for a long time. Since the PS2 there has always been a slim or super slim version. A version with a bigger hard drive or better cooling or better components etc etc. And the games will usually have all the bugs ironed out or a version with all the DLC's will be available.
The only thing I really want to try out is VR but I don't know anyone that has one so I can't borrow it and it still costs more than I want to pay to take gamble and try it.
But if it wasn't for the people buying the latest and greatest and then getting bored then people like me would get the bargains I do, so thank you 😄
Sounds a lot like us :). We are cheap. Nothing like getting 4-5 games for what most are paying for one. And Alien Isolation, F'n love that game. Cheers!
When I couldn't find a PS5, then I bought a PS4 Pro since I had a 4K TV to take the place of my PS4. I have a huge backlog. So, I'll be playing the Pro for awhile
Dope vid, dope beer review!
PS4 Time I Enjoy My PS1 PS2 PS3 And PS4 To This Day Blessed To See It All Unfold And Come Full Circle From The 1980s To Now Enjoy The Week My Retro Guys
Playstation has had some many banger consoles! 🍻
@@GamingOffTheGrid absolutely
Good beer choice! Weihenstephan is really close to where I live and I never realized that they export their beer to the US... enjoy!
There is a HUGE benefit to being a generation behind! About 3 years ago I picked up a used PS3 to be a file server for my PSP & Vita. Figured I'd check out some games and damn they were cheap! The PS4 is at that point now
yeah thats a huge perk of being behind is finding a good chunk of games for a good price. can build a small little collection for it
Great video and point guys. All the new games are still coming to PS4, God of War Ragnarok, Gran Turismo, and Horizon Forbidden West, which most are delayed and would be dumb for Sony not to put on the PS4 with it's massive install base. I have 2 PS4 Pro's, one the Spiderman Special Edition and the other Death Stranding Special Edition and not a PS5 yet. I do have a Xbox Series X which was the one I got to reserve and purchase and glad I at least got one of the new consoles. But really I'm in no need or hurry for me to get one. I feel if I had a PS5 it would just be playing PS4 games on it. Just like I'm playing Xbox One games on my Series X. PS4 is such a great console and massive library. I'm still playing backlog games for the PS4 and Xbox one and will still collect and get games for both. Cheers 🍻 guys.
That beer brand is so good! Had those at the last oktoberfest i went to
Great indeed. I might have to pick up another 4 pack for the weekend :). Cheers!
You should try one called Franziskaner as well. Usually have em at grocery stores
Only got the PS4Pro when it first came out. This generation is still quite active for me and will be for the forseeable future. I will never buy the PS5.
I also didn't get the PS4 until the Pro came out, I might get a PS5 if they get something like Bloodborne 2 as an exclusive. But most exclusives for now are cross generation for PS4 and PS5.
@@hepwo91222 Yup, exactly.
I was the last person on the Western Hemisphere to purchase a PS4 😂... bought a PS4 Pro in November 2019. All the best games were only around $20 dollars and they’re AAA games!!! Sometimes the exclusives are on sale for $10 dollars! That’s brand new sealed! Cheap. I also used my PS4 Pro to stream Netflix before I got a smart TV which streams it from the TV. Good console and great games hella cheap 😁... super cheap and probably won’t ever get too expensive because so many consoles and games were sold. And! I think since Sony is still supporting the PS3 they’re for sure not gonna abandoned the PS4 which sold 110 million +... that digital game store and servers will be up for a long time... even the PS5 can play PS4 disc and your digital games carry over to the PS5
LOL! It is always good to be late to the party. We'll be riding out the PS4 for many years to come. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
Totally agreed . Similar story here .
Great content guys! Rush of Blood is a fantastic VR shooter in the vain of House of Dead. It’s double gun fun!!! Also, the PS4 is a 3D movie player that looks great in VR. I started collecting 3D movies because it’s so much fun; something the PS5 cannot do. A reason I won’t be getting rid of mine.
Thanks for reminding me about that, I've been using my Ps3 to play 3d movies and wasn't aware that Ps4 also plays 3d movies.
Time for a 3d movie marathon this weekend...
I would say the PS4 controller feels better then the ps5 controller imo
Yep I agree!
Yeah as someone with smaller hands as a guy, I like the way it feels in the hand better. Sooo Sony shpuld make a dualshock 4 with haptuc feedback!!!
I gotta disagree, I think the ps5 controller is one of the best ever (besides the gamecube one) and I loved the ps4 one. But it's hard going back
I love your channel, excellent work
You need 2 buy fire Pro wrestling on your ps4 guys
I got PS4Pro early 2018 right around when SpiderMan came out. It appears most exclusives for the foreseeable future will be cross generation between PS4/PS5, so I am hoping to get a few more years out of it. My favorite exclusive is Bloodborne and my favorite game on it overall is Witcher 3.
You will probably get decades out of it, to be honest.
I had fun playing the last of us remaster but had to quit it because it gave me nausea to the point I felt like I was going to throw up after 30 minute playthroughs. Only game I can remember making me feel that way.
Recently got a Wii U and I was wondering what external hard drive would you recommend for the Wii U. Love watching y’all’s videos! Keep it up!
Me too. I use a usb stick 64gb for now.
Wow, I've been to the Weihenstephaner beer garden in Bavaria to drink it fresh from the brewery. It was sooooo good!! 😋😋😋
Damn! That sounds delightful :). Cheers to that!
What's a reasonable price to find a used PS4 slim 1TB with cords and controller for?
you would be doing really good at 100. you mostly likely will spend around 150
Red Dead Redemption 2 was my favorite game on PS4 Pro hands down can't get any better for me (obv not an exclusive though lol) I didn't really play a lot of games this generation sadly. But it's amazing to still be able to boot up RDR2's Story 2 and a half or 3 years later after beating it and still finding new content, characters and easter eggs yk so good
Got my ps4 slim a year ago and I'm enjoying all the good cheap games
Cheers to that! Games are so cheap and easy to find right now. It's awesome.
I'm looking for a ps4 now for almost 2 years, and its hard to find cheap here in Portugal, also ps4 games for 1$?? Impossible here xD But yeah I feel like in the near future prices will drop! :) Awesome vídeo as always!
I have mine hacked on 9.00 and will be ripping my discs to the hard drive once they figure out how to do it
Nice! We need to look into this at some point for sure. Cheers!
Still holding onto my precious PS4 and still love every gaming moment on it. Interested in getting Dragon Fighter Z for it next real soon. Anyone know where I might find that on the cheap or when the next deal in the digital store might be?
Also, I love all the retro archive and NeoGeo classics available to download on the PS4 as well! :D B)
Just bought myself a PS4 Slim two weeks ago. 2TB hard drive with 72 games installed for $550 USD. Couldn't pass that deal up.
yeah that isnt a bad deal. depending on the games you got a good collection there
I’m stickin with the P-4 baby. As far as I’m concerned there is no PS5. This was a great topic, guys.
I agreed with you 💯 👊👊
Would you recommend replacing a Playstation 4 with the Pro? I have a 4k tv so I prefer 4k
I checked in my area and they currently sell for $200 to $250 usd used.
In your scenario yes! We dont have experience with it since we dont have the fancy new tvs! But we have heard thats the play! Your playstation 4 will still look good but to pick up the full 4k experience you will want to upgrade! Cheers!
@@GamingOffTheGrid Sweet! I upgraded to Xbox Series X from
the One S to get the full 4k experience. But that was because my back compat games would look better too, so I got a lot of value.
The ps5 is a much harder sell since my ps2/3 game won’t run on it. So I’m sticking with cheaper options. Also because of sour grapes that Sony won’t even try to address backwards compatibility.
Fully get why you went that direction! Good call!
It is interesting that the prices on the games are dropping I thought that would not happen until after the PS5 was more readily available.
Sony didn't really push Vita's remote play? They had an entire ad campaign centered on it.
Great video Boys! 🤘🏻
My only issue with my white PS4 that I have had since 14-15, is with frame rate drops, long loading times, and at times freezes on me and exits me out with problems to keep reporting to Sony and that irritates me to the point of me not playing on my system anymore and I'm fine with that. I'll wait it out to get the Special Edition PS5 and from there play the rest of my PS4 games on that. I'll just keep sticking with my 80GB (upgraded to 1TB SSHD) PS3 and definitely finish off my cabinet collection for that until then.
Death Stranding is another good console exclusive. The gameplay is not for everyone, but you can't deny it is innovative and gorgeous, and a console highlight. I believe it is pretty cheap too.
I picked it up recently but have played it yet. Huge Kojima fan so I’m definitely interested. Cheers!
why does nobody upgrade there ps4 internal hhd cuz you can i thew a 2tb 2.5 laptop hdd in mine
Good question. Could be because using an external is pretty easy and most common gamers aren't super comfortable opening up consoles. Who knows. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
How do y’all feel about the dreaded battery issue in the console?? Sucks! I hope they fix this for the future so we can enjoy our physical copies of games in the future.
It's on our radar for sure. Sony needs to fix it for sure. Fingers crossed that all the buzz around the issue will cause them to address it. Cheers!
Hefe Weissbier from Weihenstephaner, the no headache beer. 👌🏻
And anothere great video. Thanks so much.
We haven't put it to that test. Thanks for the heads up lol! Cheers!
Thanks a ton man! Much appreciated.
Ps4 is one of the most successful ones and the biggest let downs for me and what consoles I have and play, as the games that came out were great but I cant play any of my ps2 and ps3 games on it like I can with my ps3
I was really hoping PS5 would address this more than anything else. I like the Xbox approach, yeah, not everything is backwards compatible, but many games from every Xbox generation are.
The PS3/360 era last damn near 10 yrs long...Most people were ready for the PS4...I got it day 1
It was a fairly large leap too, at least it felt like it at the time. I'm excited about the current Gen but just need there to be more games before I make the jump. I'm guessing 2023 will be the year :)
Niiiiiicenessss!🙌🤟🤟
I think you'd defo have an appreciation for the ps4 pro if you traded up for one,it also runs the vr games better as well.
We know its a great console variant but we enjoy the PS4 we have now! Cheers!
I have the death stranding version,looks the bollox
I was just thinking to myself, after they stopped the ps vue service I used my ps4 a lot less. I love that console but it's no longer my media hub so I don't use it all the time anymore.
Great video..I hope there is a Xbox one version of this coming in the future.
I am always almost a generation behind, the price point is much more favorable that way. The PS4 games are getting cheap so now is the time! I got the PS4 pro with VR for $100. The hard drive still was not big enough so I added a 4TB to it.
Yeah have you guys heard of the CMOS battery issue for the ps4? It was a issue for the ps3 and is worse for the PS4. Also I know it is just me but to say you got games for free with PS plus is not true. You got those games with the service and once you cancel those games will not work. Great video guys! Love the Stone Cold shirt!
I couldn't believe the first time I put a CD in my Sony, that is right Sony ps4 and it didn't play. Looking back on your previous videos. Big props for your opinion on PS3 Rambo game. It is super hard and awkward control but still great. Have you seen the metacritic score? Another great Ps3 game is Painkiller. Hugs.
LOL! Damn it Sony! Some of us still have CD's ya know :). Oh yes, Rambo is so much fun. The game is a train wreck but a delight to play for Rambo fans. I'll have to look into to Painkiller. Pretty sure that one is tough to find in the states. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
Not gonna lie... I would love to see y’all drink some cheaper beers like Bud Light or Michelob Ultra. Hahaha great content, guys!
Nano Assault Neo??
Res 7 and 8?
great title that we just havent dabbled much into
My friend gifted me their PlayStation 4 Pro and the only games that I recommend to get the Pro is Spider-Man and Ghost of Tsushima. The Persona series is great and you'll pick up more things then you did on your first play through. Got Anthem for a dollar for the PS4 at a retail store. And I was wondering if you would like to come on a episode of a passion project of mine and I'm running the passion project on the PS4 because that's one of the great things about the PS4 is that I can either stream my walkthroughs of my games or record my passion projects on the PS4
Just got a perfect PS4 Pro for $200 and I am set!!
The last game I paid full price for was 2018s God of War...it was discounted to $20 b4 I was able to beat it...so now I just wait...I have plenty of games in the backlog....also...when you buy PS4 games,ur just building ur PS5 collection
Yesir. The prices definitely drop fast on the new stuff. Patience is key :). Cheers!
Never got into the PS4 when it released. Mine was broke out of the box. I went with Xbox. No regrets.
But the PS5 is impressing me. Plus now they have backwards compatibility and PS Now/Plus.
Sony is back kicking ass again!
Cheers.
Xbox and Playstation were good so dont blame you! We still haven't dipped our toes into the PS5 yet! Cheers!
@@GamingOffTheGrid PS5 is fire my dudes. It's insane. Highly recommend.
We always game a little behind! We will get there for sure! We dabbled at a buddys house!
Until Dawn sticks out for me.
Such a great game we play every October! Cheers!
Enjoy the low game prices and start building your collection. Sega Dreamcast and Gamecube prices are crazy right now. Ps Vita and N64 game prices are also going up since the pandemic began. But the absolute worse is car prices 😫
Just bought a new truck after having to choose from only two on the entire lot !! Don't even ask how much I paid lol...
yep this is the best time to build your ps4 collection. yeah theres alot of gaming systems and games feeling the inflation
You need an external hard drive 2 or 3 or 400 GB is necessary.
Looks up physical Nex Machina on eBay, $50+. Looks up Nex Machina on PSN, 75% off for $4.99. Sold! Thanks fellas, love the channel. Also, collecting from the PS3 and beyond is pointless in my opinion. Waaaaaaaay to many downloads and what % of games are actually on the disc themselves, 75% at best?
Ya the physical version of that game is getting up there in price for sure. $4.99 is a killer deal. Hope you enjoy it. Cheers!
I need to try and finish Horizon Zero Dong before the sequel comes out.
Just ordered Dark Souls Trilogy today. I also love the PS4 for the JRPG's like Persona 5 etc
Lookin at my shelf right now, Kingdom Hearts Collection, If you adore Kingdom Hearts or are a retired Kingdom Hearts fan like I am it's the console to play them on.
Final Fantasy X (Even tho I slightly prefer the PS2 version, PS4 is still excellent.)
Nier Automata (playing it now and holy sh!t, amazing game I'm hooked.)
Hyper Light Drifter... (Not the Definitive Edition to play the game. That would be Switch but still amazing.)
Borderlands 2 (the best Borderlands)
Tales of Vesperia DE (Finally don't have to jailbreak a PS3.... Even tho you should 😉)
Bastion (Absolute indie classic)
Sonic Mania (Great 2D Sonic game)
Valkyria Chronicles Remastered (Gem)
Valkyria Chronicles IV (takes everything you love about VC I and makes it better.)
Ys VIII (Another Gem)
Odin Sphere (Best way to play that game)
CTR Crash Team Racing (Outside the micro transactions sublime)
World of Final Fantasy Maxima (Best Pokemon game of all time 😉)
Got my pro 1tb for $130
thats not bad i think the average is 145-150 so you did well cheers
Why you gotta make me feel old by bringing up the PS4's age lol
Oh yeah
The PS4 is so good, I’m really surprised neither of you have a Pro model yet though.
You should both definitely try Farpoint on the PSVR but make sure you use an Aim controller....it’s the next level for light gun games👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Every time PS4 comes up you tease me with Nex Machina.....I’d love a physical copy but too expensive unfortunately. I have a digital but physical is always better.
Fun fact you can use your PS4 controller on your PS3
I always forget about that. It has to be plugged in though right. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
@@GamingOffTheGrid Yeah it Hass to be plugged in that’s the downside though
I think PS4 games will hold values since PS5 will play them. Not new values but I don't think a $10 game today will be $1 in a year because of time passing. As long as PS5 supports PS4 games, I think that will help their values. I have a PS5 and I sold my PS4 (with a 2TB Internal HD that I upgraded) and I regretted selling it the week after. Hold onto your PS4 people.....IT IS A FANTASTIC system!
It is a great system indeed. I have yet to feel the urge to upgrade to a PS5. I'm sure I will at some point but still loving the 4. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
Please get on with it!
Lol! Will do breh! Cheers!
I don't know guys, you say "why would you get a PS5?", well even if there are not many PS5 games (there are actually more PS5 games than there were PS4 games 7 years ago), the PS5 is BC with the PS4 and plays the games the best way possible (better framerate/resolution). So if i did not have a PS4 i would just try to save a little more and wait for a PS5, its basically a perfect PS4, it plays all the games better AND it is a PS5 so you get PS5 games for the next 7 years. Also about physical games, i don't know man, most games can be installed and played without a need for internet conection, so i think it will become collectable.
I think what's gonna hurt the PS4, in the long run, is that the PS5 is backwards compatible with all but a literal handful of games from the PS4 library. Yes, right now that console is much harder to get your hands on than a PS4 or PS4 Pro, but when the stock issues are solved, I think the PS4 as a console is gonna lose out. Even the PSVR can be used on the PS5 and the games can run just a bit faster (speaking from playing KH3 on the PS5, it's faster but load times are still there). So in the future, I think the PS4 is gonna fall to the wayside in favor of the original PS5 (I say original because you know in the future there's going to be a slim or pro model).