“Disadvantaged Ones”: abuse on display in latest JW Broadcast
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- Jehovah’s Witnesses exploit the sick and disabled for free labor and manipulative propaganda
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The Samuel Herd quote where he posed a question that all JWs need to ask themselves…”could I do more” or “could I do better” was an ongoing thing that was very disheartening to me. Out of one side of their mouth the say that Jehovah is pleased with what your circumstances allow you to do, then out the other side of the mouth they ask if you can do more or better.
I went to Memorial '24. Bethel rep with a beard asked the same question..." can you do more"? Yes...I called Law Enforcement on a pervert MS in our KH and in handcuffs and pic on web " registered sex offender". Yeah...we all need to do more and I did it despite the Elders.
Yes, that was mentally draining!
@CharChar876 you can't trust just anyone, especially among the witnesses!
When you are a JW, you always roll with disadvantage.
Poor Cecilia...Not only being physically disadvantaged, but adding the burden of being in a doomsday cult as the cherry on top..
What a life...
IF it’s even real & not just actors.
I grew up a JW with mild cerebral palsy. The ableism is ridiculous. The of implication that the only way you could possibly have any value in life is by being a JW was thrown my way basically every meeting
Can't be bothered driving a little extra so a vulnerable person doesn't have to put their life at risk, sounds about right for uber pimi. reminds me of some jws i met.... that story has made me feel sick 😡🤮
As a neurodivergent person (AuDHDer amongst other things), it took me way too long to realize that I was supposed to look forward to living in a world where people like me don’t exist. 🤮
Thank you for sharing your personal experience about this subject 🙏
I have learned so much about ableism since leaving. Watchtower paints an image of life being full of suffering and all their members must long for better days. It’s such a terrible attitude towards life, especially when being “disadvantaged.” They don’t want their members to overcome personal hardships. They want them to be miserable so they can hold paradise before them like a carrot on a stick. Enjoy life NOW!!
Great video, Jake. The never-ending droning on about "doing more" was so difficult for me to process as a super shy people pleaser. I knew I was never doing enough, I was never good enough, I was worthless, just "taking up a seat" at the Hall. I'm still trying to believe I have worth just as I am. I can't imagine how much worse it was for you and others with legitimate health issues.
You absolutely have worth just as you are.
In highschool I studied with a disabled guy that was a kinda friend( i wasn't allowed to call school mates friends, they were acquaintances). So glad he was smart enough to see through the B.S. I hope he's doing good
Why would she convince a somewhat blind woman she needs to travel 2 hours each way through a crime riddled neighborhood? Why wouldn't she go pick her up? They missed the point of the good Samaritan parable. Jw's would guilt trip the injured Samaritan man and if he was lucky he'd get a jw business card and a cheesy video.
As a never JW, "ones" has gotten me on every video, so I'm really happy you addressed it!
I see no humanity in this video. Except you Jake, thank-you for your time 🤗
JW: I dropped hints for a year that this woman should wear a dress, not pants. I didn't consider her medical issues relevant. Obviously I couldn't just tell her the rules; she needed to internalize those feelings of failure to conform.
JW congregation: Praise to the GB!
So that woman thought that making a blind and deaf woman take two trains an hour and a half both ways to a Kingdom Hall was a good idea in a gang infested neighborhood. Are you serious ???
Your upbringing is pretty damn relatable Jake. I too suffered of a digestive disorder among other crippling symptoms. The worst part, the doctors suggested a blood transfusion when I was born. This cult definitely creates problems it "solves", just like governments.
I can’t stand that horrible religious teaching that we are inherently unworthy. Like merely being alive we are wrong and receiving “underserved kindness” for being alive. What a disgusting and abusive way to bring up children. I lived with passive suicidality for years knowing I didn’t deserved to live.
Thank goodness for my freedom. I now know I am supposed to be here. How do I know that? Because I am here.
I was waiting for "mommy"... you never disappoint. Its so hard to understand how they think they are following Jesus by abandoning people in real times of need. Im sorry you went through that.
The expectations of Ceila is most ridiculous to expect her to attend meetings! If you want her so badly, then go and get her! Expecting her to make efforts to get to the meetings cuz she was too embarrassed to go into this bad neighborhood to pick her up and ashamed that she lived there. That's the real reason she stopped picking her up. Another way of snobbery!
The combination of such blatant, vicious ableism with the outward appearance of love for disabled members is nauseating.
I hate to hear the evidence of having been personally hurt by this in your voice. I wish it had never happened. But in a way, your anger is refreshing. It's like an antidote to the profound falseness of it all.
I appreciate your point of view as a disabled person, as a partially disabled person myself.
Which is why at Bethel we are setting the example by helping several physically disabled people occupy places of honor in God’s house, following His esteemed example. (Said no one at Bethel ever.)
My wife or soon to be exwife has Lupus, and OMG how some of the sisters love looking at her as a charity case. It’s hard to empower somebody when they’re being treated this way
Growing up with diabetes may have been one of the greatest blessings for me. Because really early on I realized that there's no way a loving and all-powerful God would let a kid suffer like that. I was done at 8:00 but had to pretend I believed until I was about 17. I'm just glad I got to help before I lost my vision. LMAO
They're the ones that put them in that disadvantaged position
Okay, I'm at the Herd story of the little girl with a B graded picture. Did they workshop that scenario? Because it's so stupid. Have these guys ever spoken to an elementary aged student or teacher? Teachers don't grade artwork like that, lol. It's a small gripe, but it's such a stupid scenario.
Also "come and go quickly" 😂😂
I teach. And all art is A+ in the elementary grades
My thought exactly! Made-up BS as usual.
I burst out laughing at that scenario!
Now the sisters are allowed to wear pants. What nonsense. Making such a big hugabuloo about wearing a skirt and not pants. Ay ay ay.
JW: "I can't go out to preach today, I am suffering from a debilitating migraine."
Jeffrey Winder: "Oh, boo-hoo, let me play you a tune on the world's smallest violin!"
DUDE! I literally was having this exact conversation with my friend the other day about how often and poorly they use “ones “. I’m like hey there’s a word for multiple persons, people!!!
Thank you so much for sharing your personal health issues. It really helps show all that no matter what one does in that organization, it is never enough. When I lived in Northern California, an exJW woman shared how over one-half of the women in the congregation were on tranquilizers! I'm sure that was and is not an isolated incident. The constant "I'm not doing enough" mindset is directly responsible for that. That's not including those with severe depression or other mental health issues that are often not dealt with due to the negative view of mental health professionals such as psychologists and psychiatrists. Hard core right leaning religions are disgusting for their perverted and judgemental view of the world and the people in it.
Great video, as always, Jake. Could really feel you in this one. Much love to you.
Thanks, Jake. When you said your family didn't visit you in the hospital, I had the same experience. I was shot in a mass shooting and they didn't bother checking up on me at all. Their sense of compassion is all twisted.
On another note, every time you show pics of yourself at the meetings, I just can't help but think about how hard I would've crushed on you. You were (still are) so cute!!! 🥰
Oh my god!! I’m so glad you’re safe and alive! And thank you for the kind words 🙏
I agree! He's gorgeous!
Galatians 6:5
Wow, that is messed up. Hope you’re okay. And yeah, kinda glad I wasn’t in Jake’s congregation. I’d have been miserable! Well, probably even more miserable than I was in my own.
Holy shit! Glad you're OK now!
When my mother started studying, she was token cuz she was deaf, very overweight, widowed, but she taught hundreds sign language but others looked down on her and my brother and I were pitied on oh ypu poor kids. Cuz we didn't fit in the congregation.
Thank you so much. From Vietnam with love.
Thanks ❤
OH! But now Cecelia can wear pants to the meeting! What a loving kindness! what a loving arrangement! What a bunch of bull💩
I knew that video was familiar! Cecelia's Bible study conductor was an ASSHOLE!
I knew Janice she and her husband spent a week with us along with her sight seeing dog. They're from DC. She had us in stitches where we asked her how do you know if your husband moves stuff around or not put away something since she does the cleaning of their house. She said she knows and her husband piped in. Trust me, she' let's me know. It's best to keep things they way she wants it better for her to navigate in the home. Her previous sight seeing fog must've passed on cuz she had a very nervous Doberman.
Tapping out of this one. Too triggering. But I'll still leave a comment for the all-mighty algorithm.
Ty for sharing the WT quote that i needed since my brother as well as others took advantage of an orphaned me, including a very mentally unhinged JW stealing my clothes when I was 15 years old cuz of her jealousy and as well having elders show up do I don't contest her in tsking advantage of me in requesting guardian fees even though I paid her enough rent, groceries, electricity, gas money.etc. elders didn't give a crap!
Knocked it out of the park again Jake
Everyone is in some category of “ones”. 😂
Excellent video. Thank-you
All Watchtower does is label people. I call Watchtower the stupid ones. It makes me feel better. The Pharisees used to label people as well. The "common people." People need to expect more from this religion. Don't settle. I get tired of listening to the Governing Body used car salesman sales pitches.
Jake, having a nitpick about the word ‘ones’ makes me feel personally attacked 😡🤣
I wonder how much those letterhead flash cards cost to print their ephemeral notes for these videos, compared to plain old 8 1/2" x 11" cheap recycled paper. Maybe they could save the money to pay for an Uber to get disabled members like Cecilia to their meetings. Also, 30 minutes one way is considered a short to average commute for most Americans. Her study partner just didn't want to keep driving in a "bad neighborhood". Such compassion /s 🤮
First of all you have a hilarious sense of humor, LMAO your zoom ins and the sam herd "mommy*
But i agree with your sentiment that the only feelings of worthlessness came from within the organization.
They always made me feel worthless for not doing more, going out more, helping out more, for not being a servant, for not continuing to pioneer for everything, they mentally drow us infeelings of worthlessness, as if something is wrong with us constantly
Great video. I’m sure a lot of JWs can relate
All the widows will let out a unified cheer, yeah Jehovah will take out our bins 😅
Jake, I'm so glad you have that super wife of yours.
Me too!!
Great upload.
If you can make time, try and watch Dr Sabine Hazan.
I don't think you will be disappointed.
I watched her being interviewed, by Dr Been.
This is regarding your crohns.
Smeagol of the GB would feel disadvantaged. Probably was home schooled too.
Actually they most likely all feel "disadvantaged" because of their persecution complex.
I got tired of being taken advantage of by JWs this includes those around me.
I told my sister I'm glad all 5 of us grew up and we were luck enough not to a blood transformation because we sure would have been sacrificed to Watchtower. I thank God.my elder father and my 88 year old mother who's still a jw,my father passed away. Jake I'm glad you survived. Maybe my heart has become cold I could never forgive the for nt showing up.
Isaiah 8:10.
@@vusimngomezulu2500 Which church are preaching the gospel of the kingdom around the world to all nations as Jesus Christ said? Matthew 10:16, 24:14, 28:19-20, Mark 13:10, if not only only only the Jehovah's witnesses.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@ciscokidfab7595 😂😂😂😂😂
Oh lordy I'm gonna get mad at this one. I'm in my late 20s, because disabled in my early 20s. I am not disadvantaged. Sure yeah.. life isn't exactly easy. I'm in pain a lot. But I will never, ever use the victim complex. I don't think about the things I can't do.. but the things I can. I don't want pity. However, if I need help.. I've got so many people who will be there for me. Mostly my husband. I'm not embarrassed to ask for help. I'm not incapable. I just need a helping hand every now and then
In UK. *Exact same incident with a deaf blind study as in that video*. Sickening.
They had an awful video testimonial about a child with autism back in 2015. I remembered when I first watched it I felt like such a fool. I was a child with autism growing up in the organization. And I had to grow up at the time that everything that was traumatizing about witnesses in that time. It's almost said that I still have a relationship with my parents and they still talk to me about all the stuff that's going on in their congregation. I also remember trying to study with a guy that was not a part of the local congregation and my mother actually gave him materials in which to handle an autistic individual as. This guy was not only as nutty as a JW could be but he was also kind of doing things in a way that didn't make sense. He wasn't from the area, and he didn't attend local meetings. Plus he felt that he was anointed. So that really tore me up inside. I felt like it was hard enough to be struggling with spectrum issues. Now I had to grow up with this other lifestyle that left such a hole in me.
I hated that Cecilia story! That lady she studied with is evil to send Cecila thru a "notoriously bad, dangerous, gang-ridden area" ALONE! 😡😡😡
Isaiah 8:10.
Making a vulnerable person wear a skirt or dress, and spend hours on public transport through bad areas just to get to a kingdom hall is absolutely evil, you're correct. And it was this condescending expectation that Cecilia was "strong-willed" enough that she could manage because her bible teacher didn't care enough to pick her up.
@@Bonesinbloom Isaiah 8:10.
@@vusimngomezulu2500 Hi Vusi, that scripture is gibberish I this context. Your god is a psychopath if he expects women to endanger themselves just to get to an ugly building to worship him. Keep him, I'm good.
I see right through this bs! She didn’t want to go into a bad neighborhood to pick up Cecilia so she left Cecilia to fend for herself!!!
Imagine spending a whole year to change someone’s pants😂😂😂😂
I use “ones” all the time. 🤬🤬😡
Same
I've never heard anyone say "ones", except for the witnesses!
Very good Jake.
Absolute Genius delivery
The dude in the beginning is the one who did the voice of the guy telling the story to Joshua how Israel fell to their enemies and it was because of Achin (sp) on the Drama tapes from the 1980s
I know his voice ANYWHERE those dramas about Israel from Joseph to Jericho are burned in my memory!
Cecilia was probably safe not because of God per se, but because even criminals seem to have taboos against hurting visibly disabled people, kids, or any animals (you can see this in how child predators are treated and in prison dog and cat programs).
The use of "ones" is very synonymous with force users
Never good enough!!!!!! True, so God sent Jesus!
Obviously our works are dirty rags. There is no way our creator nit picks works of raggity proportions. We are expected to love our neighbor. Hone our works to help others. That is precious compared to another man made rag called the man made watchtower.
Jake I am so sorry you had to go through that abuse during your childhood. I had a similar childhood I didn't have an illness but my family goes back generations in this cult. But the moment I left the witnesses my physical and mental health improved greatly and I've never been happier in my life. It's crazy to think Jake the one thing that's supposed to make your life better is actually what's making you disadvantaged and sick. But hey I guess it's a lesson we all had to learn on our own since our JW parents and family and friends would never teach us.
Well done thank you
Disadvantaged? Like pushed away from any opportunity to go to college and gain a good career. Being forced into a belief despite my reservations of it, and keeped from relationships and activities that was passionate about pursuing? Is that disadvantaged?
19:45 that pants thing was epic
Bonne tête de vainqueur et surtout un imposteur. Il a 50 ans est né tJ est entré au Béthel à 18 ans. Quelles épreuves a t il connu ? Épreuves INDISPENSABLES à tout membre oint...
All of these JW speakers look and speak like they’re graduates of the Stepford Academy! What a blessing it must be to have no uncomfortable thoughts of your own! Just drink deeply from the offered Koolaid and let your cares and soul gently wash away into oblivion!
All evangelicals feel like Ferengi from star trek trying to convince you they run an honest business.
0:06 ...because watchtower surely won't move a finger to help them.
Thanks. Horrifying
7:14, the word "cripple" annoys me
I would rather say "disabled"
And, btw, you were such a cute little boy! You're still very cute!
Yes, I was ironically adopting the cruel tone of the religion itself. It’s not a term I would use in earnest.
@altworldly understandable
I grew up with anxiety and depression
And was raised a witness
I never got baptized, though
In college, I almost killed myself
Which caused me to start seeing a therapist
I still see one, but am feeling way better now!
You seem like a very nice guy
I didn't know you're married
Your wife is so lucky!
I haven't attended meetings since I was 21
And that was 10 years ago!
@@cheneethompson5756 Glad you’re feeling better. JayDubs is no place to be when you’re dealing with anxiety and depression. I mean, it’s practically an anxiety and depression factory.
@@unhandleme thanks for the reply!
@@cheneethompson5756 You betcha! This video of Jake’s just has me in the mood to spread love and acceptance.
And now they are allowed to wear pants.smh
A God KNOWING clean air to breath is what brings good health but purposely let Satan roam around and spread bad air😢CUZ want to PROVE His Pride (Sovereignty)😮,is what I was taught as JW!
I thought he was describing what its like being born into a doomsday cult.
Same thing!
I wonder what Cecelia thinks about the new change where she can know wear pants.... and I wonder what you think about the latest with cart witnessing. .
There was a meeting about
How to protect yourself from apostates with cart witnessing.. when one comes up your supposed to leave the cart.. you don't talk to them or answer questions any more.
Any Obi ones?
NEW LIGHT FOR JW !
IL BATTESIMO CRISTIANO È VALIDO SOLO SE COME DICE LA BIBBIA: NEL NOME DEL PADRE, DEL FIGLIO E DELLO SPIRITO SANTO !
LA SALVEZZA È SOLO NEL NOME DEL SIGNORE GESÙ CRISTO !
They are the horse men on tbe black horse feeding the dogs with poison and laugh when they come back for vomit. They are over feeding with imagery and taking advantage of them.
Using "in group" language is part of being a cult, or any system that features exclusionism ("us vs them").
So yeah.. JWs use a specific language. Enough for me to notice that people going door to door in the US were saying the exact same things in the same wording (but in a different language) that I learned in the Theocratic School as a kid. It's really kind of eerie.. it also made me aware that more than a religion I had issues with, it really is a cult and not just another "denomination" of Christian.
(No.. the cards I signed and carried with me as a kid to let me bleed to death in case I was hurt rather than having a blood transfusion was *not"* enough of a hint for me..)
I'm glad you're back to scripted content
Is anybody checked on Cecilia?
11:00 mark, if the guy had somewhat of an decent paid job he could fly to a place and have the operation.
Instead he wants to be Mr Criple 😂
Not exactly on topic but it pisses me off everything they talk about teachers. Most likely the kid got a B- because they didn't follow directions. Maybe they didn't label the family members when they were supposed to or they were supposed to show their method of transportation as well.
That is the only reason a kid would get a B- on a drawing. Not because it just wasn't good enough.
Why does this org had to show ‘all seeing eye’ in that Sharon’s experience video!
3;00 So much for the - He shall heal the blind, and cure the deaf, But of course gawd never did this ever except in the fictional tales they represent them
Now it ok to wear pants tight pants
Wham bulance😅
Sickens me you had to go through those health trials without the support and love of your family Jake. We only come out stronger when we confront these things in life and I am happy you are awake and see this cult for what it is. If it means anything you have helped me in my waking up journey, and I'm sure many others, and I appreciate the videos you make and finding these communities for support when dealing with the toxic treatment of JW's we ex-JW people receive. That part with Mr. Herd had me laughing... thank you, I needed that today!
Oh, and their last statement about the taking "advantage of a defenseless child"... Yeah God is coming for you and your disgusting CSA coverups and 2 witness rule! What a bunch of hypocrites the controlling body are!
You got Chrons Disease??...Tell that to Heaven-Tony Morris
So that woman thought that making a blind and deaf woman take two trains an hour and a half both ways to a Kingdom Hall was a good idea in a gang infested neighborhood. Are you serious ???
Very good Jake.